Coronavirus Death Thread

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can't think of anything that would make me seethe more than that.

[Yevrah]

It's possible I'm being dumb, but none of this makes any sense to me, at all. We don't even know if kids spread it for fuck's sake. Just get onto one of the countries with a dodgy human right's record and ask them before bringing in bollocks like this.

Someone at some point is going to have to come out and say we're stuck with this and we need to live with it. These are the things you can do to mitigate your risk of catching and spreading it and we encourage you to do those, but that aside we're open for business (and fun) again.

[Lewis]

The end game is a twice-weekly clap for the behavioural scientists.

[Yevrah]

Peter Hitchens must be apoplectic by this point.

[Baz]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53621613

Seriously? What on earth are we doing? What is the end game here?
This is completely conciliatory and a waste of fucking bandwidth.

I can’t believe schools are gonna open “as normal” (letting all kids in) in four weeks. :nono:

[Foe]

Nicola sturgeon may never open scotland up again.

RIP pubs and gyms.

At some point they’ll just flip and either close down completely or open anyway.

One of my local gyms up north seems to be doing something similar, just opening for a few hours and allowing members to come and “say hello”.

[Kikó]

I'm having a beer in a restaurant. This is amazing.

[Yevrah]

I can’t believe schools are gonna open “as normal” (letting all kids in) in four weeks. :nono:

Why not?

[Lewis]

One of my local gyms up north seems to be doing something similar, just opening for a few hours and allowing members to come and “say hello”.

Mine is open at stupid hours, the good stuff is shut off, and you have to book an hour slot on the day. Alright, it's on a military base, so an outbreak there is worse than outside; but in that case why open it at all?

[Giggles]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53621613

Seriously? What on earth are we doing? What is the end game here?

Pubs should never have opened.

[Baz]

Why not?Kids carry viruses, let’s not pretend otherwise just because this ones named after 2019.

[Kikó]

It's pretty much the one strange thing about this virus that it doesn't seem to impact the young.

[Shindig]

Same can't be said about the parents.

[phonics]

Yes it does?

[Kikó]

Same can't be said about the parents.

But less likely to catch it from kids as they are less likely to get it.

[Shindig]

True, and it's not like the school run gives parents enough time to mingle. I'd sooner shut the pubs.

[Lewis]

Catch it, don't catch it. Enjoy your divvy kids leaving school at nineteen as half-retards.

[Spikey M]

Kids carry viruses, let’s not pretend otherwise just because this ones named after 2019.

All evidence seems to point to the contrary.

[Dquincy]

Anyone prioritising going to the pub over children gaining an education is a bit of a dick. Not that I'm saying I think it's a sensible strategy.

[Kikó]

Especially when you've got #cans

[Queenslander]

Grim.


Melbourne placed under stage 4 coronavirus lockdown, stage 3 for rest of Victoria as state of disaster declared

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-02/victoria-coronavirus-restrictions-imposed-death-toll-cases-rise/12515914

[randomlegend]

Kids do catch it, but it does seem to be true they are less likely to transmit it. Most who catch it aren't very unwell with it - even less so than the standard respiratory viruses which do the rounds based on what we saw - but there's a recognised entity called PIMSTS which a few get which makes them VERY unwell. We had one kid with it before it was known to be a thing and he was scary unwell but survived.

The fact kids aren't that unwell with it might be why they transmit it less.

[Don]

Was in hospital for a bike accident yesterday. A few grazes so doctor wanted to give me a Tetanus booster and my intoxicated mind kicked into anti-vaxxer mode and I politely declined :face:

They've probs hooked up the aircon with the virus so futile, really.

[Giggles]

If you were out in a bike drink or high they probably should have just euthanised you there and then.

[Don]

Note this was just a pushbike so not sure you can get so moralistic but I'm a keen drink driver outside of summer so sentiment is well-placed.

[Giggles]

I meant pushbike. As if you were on a motorbike :D

[Don]

Be pretty hard to harm someone else on a pushbike accident, I'd imagine. And the non-urgent A&E was fairly dead last night so the nurse was probs just buzzin to get to clean the wounds of an adonis.

[randomlegend]

You could easily seriously harm a pedestrian riding a push bike drunk.

[Giggles]

Or cause a vehicle accident. Even more so than cyclists normally do.

[Manc]

Always searching for the next buzz. It'll end in tears.

[Foe]

Aberdeen bar COVID case on the bbc website.

Fuck off.

This better not result in any increased restrictions.

[Don]

Always searching for the next buzz. It'll end in tears.

Story of my life indeed.

[Lewis]

If it is about to take off on the other side of the world then I think I speak for everyone in wanting to see New Zealand get absolutely clobbered by it.

[Spikey M]

28 days 'til I go away. Not going to happen, is it?

[Magic]

Aberdeen bar COVID case on the bbc website.

Fuck off.

This better not result in any increased restrictions.

13 cases oh no shut the world down.

[Foe]

My concern level is zero.

There’s some absolute roasters whinging about though as expected and I’m concerned that safety first sturgeon will jump on it.

[Spikey M]

BoJo looking at locking down the over 50's and the vulnerable and letting the rest of us get on with it, apparently.

About time. I said that about 2 months ago. SpikeyYevrah. :cool:

[Yevrah]

We can't continue on opening and closing shit until a vaccine turns up or the virus loses its efficacy, so I welcome that plan. 50 seems young though.

[Spikey M]

We can't continue on opening and closing shit until a vaccine turns up or the virus loses its efficacy, so I welcome that plan. 50 seems young though.

"Millions of over 50's" was the phrasing, so I'm assuming there's some further qualifiers.

[Shindig]

So ... the shielded lot again, probably. It's a numbers game so you can probably tweak things in the interim. Even if we all go back to queuing for shopping or whatever.

[Don]

Shielding sounds good, not sure why no one thought of it.

[Lewis]

Throw in a bit of distancing and extra hygiene measures.

[Giggles]

Over 50’s should stop paying tax then if they’re deemed that pointless.

[Shindig]

Or just wait to see how Russia's vaccination programme goes. If they don't start having heart attacks it means our research was bang on.

[Spikey M]

Over 50’s should stop paying tax then if they’re deemed that pointless.

They're not pointless, they're at risk. But why the fuck are we stopping everyone from doing anything when it's not particularly dangerous to the under 50's?

We don't treat any other disease this way. We protect the vulnerable and everyone else cracks on. It's just unfortunate in this instance that the only form of protection we can give is to keep away from them.

[Yevrah]

Was it your nut allergy earlier Spikey? It's bang on whoever it was.

My cousin would likely die if he ate some and couldn't get his shot, but it doesn't mean I'm not allowed to eat them.

[phonics]

Throwing your analogy in the bin is the fact that they’re literally banned from airplanes when someone with a nut allergy is on board. We all on that same airplane.

[Yevrah]

Yes, but we're still allowed to eat them when there's not someone vulnerable about.

Analogy stands and you're wrong. Again.

[Lewis]

In this case the feeble peanut nonce wouldn't get on the plane.

[Don]

If they don't bring a pack of KP's finest to seat 32B by the end of summer, there's gonna be some towers going down.

[Spikey M]

Was it your nut allergy earlier Spikey? It's bang on whoever it was.

My cousin would likely die if he ate some and couldn't get his shot, but it doesn't mean I'm not allowed to eat them.

It was.

[Shindig]

If they don't bring a pack of KP's finest to seat 32B by the end of summer, there's gonna be some towers going down.

You'd have to ride your bike pretty fast to manage that.

[phonics]

In this case the feeble peanut nonce wouldn't get on the plane.

No instead you’d go over to his house and throw a pack of salted in his face and then hide them in various crevices.

[Spikey M]

No instead you’d go over to his house and throw a pack of salted in his face and then hide them in various crevices.

Should have been wearing his mask.

[phonics]

Should have been wearing his mask.

You’ve got how a mask works the wrong way round

The mask protects you, not me.

[Raoul Duke]

you'd have to ride your bike pretty fast to manage that.

9-11 mph

[Lewis]

I saw it put neatly on Twitter the other day along the lines of testing how far you can push ninety-nine per cent of people to save the remaining one per cent. If the circumstances outlined in Operation Yevrahtossa looked like coming to pass you would basically have to release all constraints and just let people chance their own health until such time as it just fucks off.

That was the better way of looking at it back in March, except it's more like saving the 0.3 per cent (or whatever it is). Stay inside for a few weeks? No worries, we're all - to coin a phrase - in this together. Another year of this shit? Unlucky pensioners. You had a decent run rinsing the country dry.

[Spikey M]

You’ve got how a mask works the wrong way round

The mask protects you, not me.

I don't see how Lewis wearing a mask would help his situation.

[Giggles]

That was the better way of looking at it back in March, except it's more like saving the 0.3 per cent (or whatever it is). Stay inside for a few weeks? No worries, we're all - to coin a phrase - in this together. Another year of this shit? Unlucky pensioners. You had a decent run rinsing the country dry.

There’s been some jump from clapping on the doorstep once people realised they’d be inconvenienced.

[Spikey M]

That was the better way of looking at it back in March, except it's more like saving the 0.3 per cent (or whatever it is). Stay inside for a few weeks? No worries, we're all - to coin a phrase - in this together. Another year of this shit? Unlucky pensioners. You had a decent run rinsing the country dry.

I find it fun that they routinely deny the elderly organ transplants because it's deemed a waste, but trash the whole economy and steal a year of everyone's life? Sign us up.

[Yevrah]

I don't know what you mean by operation Yevrahtossa Lewis, we're quite like minded on this. To be clear:

Lockdown was a necessity to avoid the NHS getting swamped and should have happened earlier to save more lives (a couple of weeks earlier, not in January) as people simply weren't taking it seriously. But continuing on a path of opening and closing the whole country, parts of it, or specific industries, indefintely, when it poses minimal risk to a huge proportion of said country is utter lunacy and we need a much better way of dealing with it.

If you're in a risk group, and I would imagine that'll be 15%+ of the country (there are nearly 9m over 70's alone) then the advice should be to stay at home as much as possible (or take the risk if you're Peter Hitchens) while the rest of us crack on while still operating on the side of caution. i.e. not being filthy bastards.

Now one may say that that's a change of opinion, but if it is, it's because the situation has changed. The disease (in its current form) simply isn't serious enough for enough of the population to bring on economic problems akin to those you'd likely see after a World War.

[Lewis]

It was when you had a work meeting and predicted imminent and total societal collapse.

[Yevrah]

It was when you had a work meeting and predicted imminent and total societal collapse.

And then the government started handing out free money to avoid that.

[Lewis]

Yeah. I'm not making fun here.

[Shindig]

What's wrong with being cautious about a new disease we're slowly trying to grasp the long term effects of? And whilst lockdown didn't break the NHS, it certainly changed how it went about working. Appointments cancelled, treatments sidelined, etc.

[Don]

Lockdown was a necessity to avoid the NHS getting swamped and should have happened earlier to save more lives (a couple of weeks earlier, not in January) as people simply weren't taking it seriously. But continuing on a path of opening and closing the whole country, parts of it, or specific industries, indefintely, when it poses minimal risk to a huge proportion of said country is utter lunacy and we need a much better way of dealing with it.

Did the deaths occur because the NHS was too stretched? I didn't think we hit that point even at the peak. If not then fuck supporting any kind of lockdown or wishing it was done sooner.

[Yevrah]

What's wrong with being cautious about a new disease we're slowly trying to grasp the long term effects of? And whilst lockdown didn't break the NHS, it certainly changed how it went about working. Appointments cancelled, treatments sidelined, etc.

To start with? Nothing. Forever? Everything.

[Yevrah]

Did the deaths occur because the NHS was too stretched? I didn't think we hit that point even at the peak. If not then fuck supporting any kind of lockdown or wishing it was done sooner.

No they didn't, but they would have done had we just cracked on and not locked down. We'd have had upwards of 200,000, perhaps closer to 500,000.

[Don]

No they didn't, but they would have done had we just cracked on and not locked down. We'd have had upwards of 200,000, perhaps closer to 500,000.

Yeah, sure, but wanting it to have happened sooner doesn't follow.

[phonics]

Have a look at how the country that didn’t take it seriously across the pond is doing. Florida has more cases than the EU.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, sure, but wanting it to have happened sooner doesn't follow.

I think an extra couple of weeks inconvenience (which would have also enabled relaxing lockdown two weeks sooner) would have been worth it to save more lives.

[Spoonsky]

Have a look at how the country that didn’t take it seriously across the pond is doing. Florida has more cases than the EU.

:thbup:

[Yevrah]

I don't know who that's aimed at, but I'm not and never have not advocated taking it seriously. The US approach has been a complete shambles.

[Don]

What's the deal in US? Is their health service on verge of failing (lol) or are we just dry wanking at a high death figure even though mortality is pretty much as expected?

[phonics]

I saw someone got a 2k bill for having a test so you can imagine how that health system is going.

[Don]

That's nothing new though, is it?

[Shindig]

I wonder if the massive geography of the US has done it some favours in terms of sharing the load? I looked at NYC's new infections the other day and they were around 50 a day. That's impressive considering domestic travel never really stopped.

[Spoonsky]

What's the deal in US? Is their health service on verge of failing (lol) or are we just dry wanking at a high death figure even though mortality is pretty much as expected?

https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/07/15/packed-meeting-utah/#gallery-carousel-1254658

The deal is we're the dumbest group of human beings assembled in human memory.

[Shindig]

Copy and paste the article. GPDR in effect.

[Giggles]

Should you not be able to read it seeing as it’s just unavailable in the EU?

[Yevrah]

Why is an article blocked under GDPR?

[Spoonsky]

Here's the article:




Provo • As she walked up to the podium to speak, one of the moms grabbed a face mask and spit her gum out into it. “It’s garbage,” she shrugged, wadding it up. “It doesn’t work anyway. Not for me and not for my kids.”

A dad who spoke after her said he, too, doesn’t think the masks are effective, and said he’s pulling his kids out of school this fall if the state doesn’t lift its mandate requiring all K-12 students to wear a face covering. Another mother carried her 4-year-old son in her arms, noting there’s no way he would keep one on in his kindergarten class — but she thinks they’re stupid anyway, regardless of age.

Parent after parent followed at the Utah County commission meeting Wednesday afternoon, objecting for more than two hours to having their kids in masks even as counts of the virus continue to climb across the state, where there are more than 30,000 confirmed cases.

They packed into the small boardroom to talk, pulling tape off the seats meant to maintain social distancing and crowding in against the walls. They wore “Trump 2020” hats and carried little American flags, and every time someone said “freedom” or “constitutional rights” the whole room cheered. Almost no one wore a mask; those who did had them pulled under their chins.

“This mandate for the children to wear masks is baloney,” said Cynthia Harding, a Provo resident. “We have the right to make our own choices.”

Gov. Gary Herbert had issued the edict last week for masks to be required in schools after he earlier ordered them to open this fall. The move was largely met with applause from teachers and parents who say they feel it will keep those inside schools safe and slow the spread of the virus. But some are now starting to protest.

[Watch: Town Hall: Reopening schools in Utah]

On Wednesday, the state saw two separate rallies around education.

It kicked off in Provo and was followed, hours later, by a second in Salt Lake City. In the state’s capital, parents and students called on the Salt Lake City School District to get kids back in the classroom instead of continuing online, even as the area — the only location in the state — remains in the “orange,” or moderate, risk phase for the virus.

“It’s not fair,” one student said. “All of the schools around us get to go back. And we don’t.”

The biggest difference is the families pushing to return in Salt Lake City are willing to send their kids back in masks to make it happen. At the larger and louder rally in the more conservative Utah County, not having to wear them was the point.

About 150 residents there began with a gathering organized by Utah County Commissioner Bill Lee about 30 minutes before the commission meeting. The Republican leader has called for a “compassionate exemption” from the mask requirement for the thousands of students in Alpine, Provo and Nebo School Districts in the county. Parents, he believes, should choose whether their children wear a covering or not.

“I don’t like government mandates,” Lee said to claps and whistles from the crowd.

When he first walked out from the Provo courthouse, he had a light blue face covering on, saying it was required of him. Those outside chanted, “Take the mask off!” And he did.

Demonstrators carried posters that read “Don’t smother the children” and “Let kids be kids. No masks!” A few younger kids sat in strollers, adding to their parents’ cheers. Most clung to the small bits of shade on the sweltering day, but the heat didn’t deter them.

[Watch: Mother Jones reporter speaks about her ‘terrifying’ experience with masks at one Utah mall]

When a few counter-protesters showed up, with one man holding a sign that argued, “Wearing a mask is an act of compassion,” the group yelled and screamed.

“It’s an act of submission,” they said. “Jesus gives us a choice,” they added. “And mandates are against freedom.”

“You guys are at the wrong rally,” they shouted.

One mom and dad brought their two kids to challenge the anti-mask crowd, and a woman shouted: “Get that mask off that poor little boy.” Carrie Hall put her arm around her son to defend him.

“If we want this pandemic to go away, then we need to embrace masks,” she said. “We feel like wearing a mask is not only to protect ourselves but others.”

Her seventh-grader added, “I’d rather wear a tiny piece of cloth than spread COVID.”

Inside, tensions rose. When the meeting started, Commissioner Tanner Ainge declared he wouldn’t support so many people in the boardroom not social distancing. He made a motion to adjourn and hear the proposal from Lee another day in a bigger space. The board’s third member, Nathan Ivie, voted in favor and Lee against. After the 2-1 decision, Ainge walked out.

“This is the exact opposite of what we need to be doing,” Ainge said, noting he’s written a letter supporting the governor’s mandate. “We should be physically distancing and wearing masks. This room is not complying with those health guidelines.”

My statement in opposition to Commissioner Lee’s call for a rally and vote against masks in Utah County schools.

I support the re-opening plans from @GovHerbert, @alpineschools @ProvoSchoolDist @NeboDistrict @UtahDepOfHealth and @UCHD

Let’s #MaskUpUtah pic.twitter.com/gmNFtHK1xp
— Tanner Ainge (@TannerAinge) July 14, 2020

A torrent of boos followed with shouts of “Down with Tanner Ainge” and “He’s trying to silence us” and “Vote him out.” One teacher said, “Our classrooms are fuller than this.”

After he left, Lee and Ivie agreed to listen to the residents voice their thoughts. They did not have a quorum to take vote. Still, more than 30 people lined up to talk.

Some said teachers wouldn’t be able to connect as well with their students if everyone was in masks. Others said they know of kids with anxiety or asthma who wouldn’t be comfortable wearing one. A few suggested that it didn’t matter because children are less likely to get COVID-19. (They can, however, still spread the coronavirus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.)

One mom suggested that masks cut down on a person’s oxygen. A dad said it’s no different than the flu. Others compared it to the rates of heart disease. A grandmother said the virus isn’t real anyway (though there are more than 5,600 confirmed cases in Utah County).

“We are perpetuating a lie,” said Denna Robertson, 65, of Provo, who has five grandchildren. “COVID is a hoax. It’s a lie. It’s a political stunt.”

One man attacked Dr. Angela Dunn, the state’s epidemiologist, claiming she spreads misinformation and “doesn’t actually treat patients.”

Penny Brown added that she plans to homeschool her two kids — ages 10 and 3 — if the mandate stays in place. She worries about her oldest being taught to fear the world by wearing a mask. And she thinks neither of her kids will be able to properly socialize with others if their faces are covered; the emotional impact is her biggest concern.

“It’s going to rewire their brains,” she said. “I’m especially not going to send my son back to have his mind broken.”

She called the mask requirement “strenuous and overbearing and dystopian.” She also believes schools will be harming students by using too many harsh chemicals to fight the virus. “I’m not subjugating them to that crap,” Brown said.

Kathy Thompson, a teacher at Alpine Elementary, said she doesn’t want students to have to wear masks. She suggests they provide a false sense of security. Plus, she said, schools already tell students they can’t wear them on Halloween — “Why change that now?”

Most suggested that if people are at high-risk of getting seriously ill from the coronavirus, it’s up to them to wear masks — not healthy individuals. The rest, some speakers said, shouldn’t have their rights trampled on.

“I will not lose my freedoms over a mask, and I will not lose my freedoms to a controlling government,” one man shouted. “This is tyranny!” another added. One woman said her kids were being used as “political pawns.”

When a few spoke in favor of masks, the crowd largely shouted over them, too. Bayley Goldsberry, who will start her first year of teaching in the fall at Maple Mountain High School, said face coverings would help her feel safer. Her husband is also a teacher and between them, she added, they’ll pass by hundreds of students in a day.

“Wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience, if you can even call it that, and has been proven effective in reducing the spread of COVID-19,” she said.

Those in the boardroom chanted at her: “No it hasn’t!” And a few told her to get a different job.

Those rallying to the north in Salt Lake City largely supported teachers, though, and said that’s why they want their kids to return to the classroom in person — to be there and learn from educators. Most parents said they can’t take any more online school where students are missing their friends and sports and the work isn’t getting done.

“No one is learning online,” said Raina Williams, a mother of five, noting that 20% of students never logged in this spring when schools shut down. “Kids are getting lost. Nobody’s addressing that.”

Salt Lake City School District may be the only one in the state not welcoming students back in the fall with the city falling in the “orange” risk level for the virus. Under the status, schools are required to continue with remote learning. And only the governor can change that.

More than 100 demonstrators asked him to do that Wednesday, pledging to return safely. They held signs that said, “We love school” and “Don’t leave us behind.” And, unlike in Provo, everyone wore masks.

The district’s spokeswoman Yándary Chatwin responded, saying that many teachers and staff also want to return, but the district doesn’t have jurisdiction to decide — the state does.

“I don’t want parents to feel like we’re not hearing what they’re saying,” she said. “We’re trying our best to be mindful of the guidelines given to us by the state and local health departments.”

The district, too, Chatwin added “might be more restrictive, but we’ve been hit harder.”

Still, football players from the three main high schools — Highland, East and West — came dressed in their uniforms. Many talked about how their competitors 3 miles away will be able to play this fall when they might not.

Glenna Lotulelei, a mother of three, said her son’s going into his senior year and could lose out on athletic scholarships if he doesn’t play on the team. Grace Conde, a senior at Highland, added that she’s worried about academic scholarships.

“We’re competing for the same awards,” she said. “So we want to go back. But we promise to take precautions.”

Even if the district is moved down to the lower risk level of “yellow,” though, it still plans to have students there for one or two days a week. Many said that’s not enough.

The crowd called for options where students who need to stay home for health reasons can. But those who want to go to school or need school as a safe place can return full time. That is especially important, Williams said, for working parents, who are largely in communities of color in Salt Lake City.

“This is our education at stake,” added Voi Tunuufi, a student at East High.

Emily Bell McCormick and her husband both work, and they have five kids. It’s been a struggle, she said, trying to teach them on top of the demands of their jobs. Among their children, they were responding to 18 different teachers, including multiple for their oldest two in high school and middle school. And they’ve got two kids who are 5 years old.

“Families are burning out,” Bell McCormick said.

Her son, Welch McCormick, who’s going into fifth grade, added: “Online school is hard to motivate yourself to do. I just want to go back.”


Best part is the photographs though:

https://i.imgur.com/Wd3Ga5w.png

https://i.imgur.com/gikehbs.png

https://i.imgur.com/9jQUTAx.png

https://i.imgur.com/GZR6ZVh.png

[Shindig]

Should you not be able to read it seeing as it’s just unavailable in the EU?

We're not out of it yet.

[phonics]

Why is an article blocked under GDPR?

Costs money to set up an it system that separates eu from us cookies etc. and they don’t have the money for it.

[Magic]

Well deciding to come to Huddersfield in the middle of a lockdown was a tragic choice.

[Dquincy]

Taz, was it any good?

'ABSOLUTE SHAMBLES' Fury as Preston nightclub becomes first to reopen in Britain with £200-a-night tickets – despite Government ban

www.thesun.co.uk/news/12293024/preston-nightclub-switch-lancashire-reopens-government-ban-coronavirus

[Lewis]

Bounce by the Ounce was Preston as well. The global capital of club culture. :cool:

[Lewis]

I bite my nails and I barely get ill as a result, so the Indians and Africans must have all sorts of HERD IMMUNITY the shit conditions they live in.


An antibody testing study has found that a whopping 57% of people sampled in densely populated slum areas of Mumbai had coronavirus antibodies. Some 40% of the city’s 20 million or so residents live in similar settings, where toilets and water supply are often shared and social distancing is impossible. The result tests the logic of the city’s strict lockdown... Encouragingly, the study suggests an infection mortality rate of between 0.05% and 0.01% based on official death numbers – that’s low and would remain so, relative to many other estimates, even if the numerator is under-reported... But this one [study] does raise the possibility that if any community in the world has achieved something like herd immunity, it may be the residents of Mumbai’s slums.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-breakingviews/breakingviews-mumbais-slums-test-lockdown-logic-idUSKCN24V09Z

'Present at several SAGE meetings was the government's newly-created Chief Racism Officer (CRO) who believed...'

[Lewis]

Nobody living past sixty or being over eight stone presumably helps as well.

[Don]

Some blow to the narrative of dirty ethnics :D

[Queenslander]

The constant stream of cunty white women who are also Australian constitutional scholars is starting to get boring.

[hfswjyr]

If it is about to take off on the other side of the world then I think I speak for everyone in wanting to see New Zealand get absolutely clobbered by it.

Thanks, but no thanks. Dickhead.

[Giggles]

Though you wouldn’t want to see anywhere fucked by it, she hasn’t helped by being so smarmy for the last few months.

[Queenslander]

Jacinda Ardern is great! The New Zealand public need to be a bit more self aware though as they are safe by dumb luck. (Like me!!!)

NZRU need to fuck off with there small time competition even South Africa is over you. Queensland is the home of the AFL, League and Union. There are 14 professional sporting teams in QLD are there even that many professional sporting teams in all of NZ?

[Yevrah]

If you think Arden's been smarmy then I'd suggest you have a problem with Women in positions of power. She just done her (admittedly much easier than elsewhere) job well.

[Giggles]

If you think Arden's been smarmy then I'd suggest you have a problem with Women in positions of power. She just done her (admittedly much easier than elsewhere) job well.

That’s some fucking leap. Who do you think you are? Phonics?

I never said she hadn’t done her job well. Up to now she’s played a blinder.

[hfswjyr]

Just like how Trump and BoJo don't represent the full spectrum of opinions in the US/UK, Ardern doesn't for us either. It's poor form to go about wishing death by virus on an entire nation, no matter who their leader is.

I would also suggest it is overseas press that is writing the praise articles - not so much NZ press. The NZ papers are actually hammering the government around several breaches and escapes from mandatory quarantine, including 60 years olds who are breaking windows and climbing fences to get out.

[Queenslander]

Just like how Trump and BoJo don't represent the full spectrum of opinions in the US/UK, Ardern doesn't for us either. It's poor form to go about wishing death by virus on an entire nation, no matter who their leader is.

I would also suggest it is overseas press that is writing the praise articles - not so much NZ press. The NZ papers are actually hammering the government around several breaches and escapes from mandatory quarantine, including 60 years olds who are breaking windows and climbing fences to get out.

She could rule Australia tomorrow she is that 'over' here.


Spent time in South East Queensland after the fires she is a good egg.

[Giggles]

Just like how Trump and BoJo don't represent the full spectrum of opinions in the US/UK, Ardern doesn't for us either. It's poor form to go about wishing death by virus on an entire nation, no matter who their leader is.

I would also suggest it is overseas press that is writing the praise articles - not so much NZ press. The NZ papers are actually hammering the government around several breaches and escapes from mandatory quarantine, including 60 years olds who are breaking windows and climbing fences to get out.

“Wishing death by virus on an entire nation”

The leaps are flying today. Fucking hell.

[hfswjyr]

I'm a bit surprised myself at how upset I am at Lewis being Lewis.

[Lewis]

Some blow to the narrative of dirty ethnics :D

It's the open top bus tour of NARRATIVE success. They've transcended the stereotype to such an extent that it has saved their lives.

[Lewis]

Yeah, calm down 'cuz'. I only wanted to see the fawning coverage confuse itself for a temporary lol. I don't want you all dead.

[Don]

Oi don't try and spin it, it's clear as day your crusty shitty bumholes are what's protected you whities.

[Giggles]

You get incentives to eat out, we get this.


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[Spikey M]

They paid 16.95 for a burger?

[Ian]

It looks like he's already overpaid for that burger so maybe they thought they may as well rinse him for a few extra quid.

EDIT: Spikey. o/

[Giggles]

Standard for Dublin 4, or Dublin in general, but loads of places are pulling this stroke.

[Giggles]

Anyway, €3.20 for a 350ml sparkling water or €3.15 for a splash of MiWadi (Robinsons) in tap water are bigger crimes than the burger.

[Manc]

£12 for a taco. :happycry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

There was a good Jay Rayner line once about an overpriced burger/steak: 'For that price, I'd at the very least expect the cow to be led under the table and pleasure me while I ate'.

[Spikey M]

It looks like he's already overpaid for that burger so maybe they thought they may as well rinse him for a few extra quid.

EDIT: Spikey. o/

\.

[Mazuuurk]

There was a good Jay Rayner line once about an overpriced burger/steak: 'For that price, I'd at the very least expect the cow to be led under the table and pleasure me while I ate'.

Bit rude to the waitress, but.

[Spikey M]

When did you start typing in Welsh?

[Disco]

Now in a minute.

[Spikey M]

My daughter has had a runny nose for a few days, but today has completely crashed and has both a temperature and a cough aswel as complete lethargy. So just called 111 and had a dr call us back. His advice was "it's probably a virus". Well fuck me doc, why hadn't we thought of that?

I asked what we do about Nursery and he just said "keep her home if she seems out of sorts". Err, yeah, obviously. It was more to clarify if she / we should be isolating. Apparently not.

I mean, i'm 99% sure it's a cold, but we called because thats what you're supposed to do if there are symptoms and it was a complete waste of time. We have symptoms in the house but we're free to crack on. Cool.

[Boydy]

Can you get her tested?

[Spikey M]

I think she's too young.

Edit: Yeah. She's 4, the test is 5+.

[Lofty]

Bounce by the Ounce was Preston as well. The global capital of club culture. :cool:

It's been on the up since I moved into the PR post code it's true. I was actually in the same room as that gurning wonder when he was sadly sober, not long after he went viral.

[Spikey M]

it does mean that I'll have to go deep throat a swab when I start feeling like shit in a few days though. :moop:

[Lewis]

It's been on the up since I moved into the PR post code it's true. I was actually in the same room as that gurning wonder when he was sadly sober, not long after he went viral.

'Gurning Wonder and Roller Coaster Guy' is a podcast waiting to happen.

[Manc]

https://youtu.be/PzP1XC51kro

:drool:

[Giggles]

it does mean that I'll have to go deep throat a swab when I start feeling like shit in a few days though. :moop:

It’s not too bad. Very quick.

[Shindig]

You know that video's going to be good when you see a polo shirt drenched in sweat within seconds.

[Offshore Toon]

From what I've read he's a nice chap and was massively playing up to the camera.

[Dquincy]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-breakingviews/breakingviews-mumbais-slums-test-lockdown-logic-idUSKCN24V09Z

'Present at several SAGE meetings was the government's newly-created Chief Racism Officer (CRO) who believed...'

Sounds like it's just a slight worse version of the flu.

[randomlegend]

I think she's too young.

Edit: Yeah. She's 4, the test is 5+.

We were testing all ages. You should all be self-isolating if those are her symptoms (unless the guidance has dramatically changed while I wasn't looking, I don't actually pay much attention).

[Dquincy]

My daughter has had a runny nose for a few days, but today has completely crashed and has both a temperature and a cough aswel as complete lethargy. So just called 111 and had a dr call us back. His advice was "it's probably a virus". Well fuck me doc, why hadn't we thought of that?

I asked what we do about Nursery and he just said "keep her home if she seems out of sorts". Err, yeah, obviously. It was more to clarify if she / we should be isolating. Apparently not.

I mean, i'm 99% sure it's a cold, but we called because thats what you're supposed to do if there are symptoms and it was a complete waste of time. We have symptoms in the house but we're free to crack on. Cool.

Runny nose should hopefully reassure you that it's likely a common cold, or variance thereof.

But it does raise the fact that so many people have not been ill with any lergy recently due to lockdown/shielding. It's going to be carnage come this winter when everyone's immunity is so low that we'll be catching all sorts.

[John Arne]

We're up to 205 (652 in total) cases since the latest outbreak, with 6 deaths.
Currently, more than 133,000 people have been quarantined, including 1,258 people quarantined at hospital, 20,427 people at quarantine areas and 111,594 at home.

https://gyazo.com/7b11fae32ee23ff72ef508f2a84a3af1.jpeg

Masks are mandatory again in HCMC from tomorrow. Fines from 110,000-330,000 ($5-15) - not quite sure why there is a sliding scale.

[Spikey M]

We added sickness and diarrhoea over night so guess it's just a good old sickness bug.

It's heartening to see our native species are still thriving.

[randomlegend]

Gastrointestinal symptoms are quite common in kids with covid...

[Magic]

:harold:

[Giggles]

:harold:

Vermin.

[Spikey M]

:harold:

It's cool, I live with her so I can keep an eye on her.

[randomlegend]

Ooft

[Lewis]

It's cool, I live with her so I can keep an eye on her.

:lol:

[Kikó]

It's cool, I live with her so I can keep an eye on her.

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[Yevrah]

Jokes about absent fathers? When did we all get so old?

[Yevrah]

RvN vs Henry was much easier.

[Ian]

You say that but I dunno which of them is the better dad.

[Offshore Toon]

They both seem like caring fathers, so you'd take the one that isn't suspended for half the season.

[Shindig]

Ruud spends less time doing punditry work so I think he wins.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's cool, I live with her so I can keep an eye on her.

:D

[Yevrah]

The WHO with another absolutely impartial assessment.


We have further comments from David Nabarro, the WHO's special envoy on Covid-19, on the coronavirus outbreak, including his assessment of the UK's response.

He told the BBC: "I’m saying that Britain is going to do really well because I'm seeing evidence that there is, firstly, really good attention to where the virus is locally, secondly, a lot of public engagement in getting on top of it and thirdly, wherever I am looking now, I am seeing evidence that different parts of society are pulling together and saying we are going to get on top of this."

He added that "nobody wants to go through further lockdowns".

"The economy has taken a big hit and we've got to make absolutely certain that economic recovery can happen, and that means getting ahead of the virus," he said.

He said countries that had a particularly good response to the dealing with the virus included Singapore, South Korea, China and Vietnam.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Was 'David Nabarro' wearing an oversized trilby, dark glasses and bushy moustache while he said that?

[Spikey M]

Did the WHO come into this with a good reputation? Because they're going to come out of it a laughing stock.

[Giggles]

Almost every country is going to come out of it as one too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The WHO is basically like any other international organisation - lovely to pay lip service to in times of plenty, but when you actually need it it becomes completely powerless because countries, quite rightly, do what's best for them.

[Lewis]

Every 'public health' organisation, whether national or supranational, is useless.

[Spikey M]

I have never paid much attention to them, but they always seem to do quite well with Ebola and other outbreaks. Weren't they also quite important for HIV awareness phonics?

I don't know... I just had them pegged as being quite good before this shit.

[Yevrah]

China having demonstrated "a particularly good response to dealing with the virus" is going to keep me in lols for weeks.

To still be maintaining that at this stage when it's manifestly clear that they started the fucking thing, lied about it, tried to cover it up and then silenced any brave whistleblowers, is unreal.

[Kikó]

other than mass vaccination programmes across the developing world, the WHO have been hopeless.

[Spikey M]

China having demonstrated "a particularly good response to dealing with the virus" is going to keep me in lols for weeks.

To still be maintaining that at this stage when it's manifestly clear that they started the fucking thing, lied about it, tried to cover it up and then silenced any brave whistleblowers, is unreal.

In fairness they covered this up for less than a quarter of the time they did with SARS. Progress.

[phonics]

I have never paid much attention to them, but they always seem to do quite well with Ebola and other outbreaks. Weren't they also quite important for HIV awareness phonics?

I don't know... I just had them pegged as being quite good before this shit.

They’re good at things that they’ve been doing for ages. They’re shit at adapting to new situations. They’re incredibly slow to decide anything (see the whole mask thing) to the point they’re still anti-vaping etc.

The whole thing is a giant bureaucracy at this point so they’re good at distribution of vaccines etc., logistical stuff but not the rest of it.

[Lewis]

The problem is that ninety-nine per cent of the time there isn't a pandemic on, so you get a load of whammers in a room with nothing to do and they end up defining their mission as complaining about the lack of effective tobacco control in Syria. Then when the actual public health crisis does come you find out far too late that you've been spending billions on a jumped-up bunch of nonces recruited for their lobbying and bullshitting capabilities.

[Giggles]

That’ll go down well...


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[phonics]

Half the country not accepting cash is fucking nuts.

[Boydy]

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That can't be good.

[randomlegend]

If the exert in the tweet is anything to go by, then the study doesn't say what the headline claims it does.

An increased amount of virus in the nasopharynx might logically feel like it would increase transmission but that doesn't necessarily mean it actually does.

[Giggles]

Keeping outdoor events at 200 is a pain in the hole. No chance of going to any matches.

[Boydy]

If the exert in the tweet is anything to go by, then the study doesn't say what the headline claims it does.

An increased amount of virus in the nasopharynx might logically feel like it would increase transmission but that doesn't necessarily mean it actually does.

I think this is the study:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952

[randomlegend]

I think this is the study:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952

Yeah it basically says:

Under 5s have a lot of viral nucleic acid in their nasopharynx, which might mean they have a lot of transmissible virus in their nasopharynx which might mean they are important transmitters. Under 5s is barely touching the school age bracket as well.

[Boydy]

Yeah it basically says:

Under 5s have a lot of viral nucleic acid in their nasopharynx, which might mean they have a lot of transmissible virus in their nasopharynx which might mean they are important transmitters. Under 5s is barely touching the school age bracket as well.

Fair enough.

[Lewis]

lol at getting medical advice off the transfer dweeb.

[Dquincy]

Yeah it basically says:

Under 5s have a lot of viral nucleic acid in their nasopharynx, which might mean they have a lot of transmissible virus in their nasopharynx which might mean they are important transmitters. Under 5s is barely touching the school age bracket as well.

You're very impressive.

At what stage can these so called studies give a more definitive prognosis.

[randomlegend]

I don't think I've said anything that warrants being taken the piss out of by Quincy but I also can't imagine anyone ever calling someone 'impressive' seriously.

[Magic]

:harold:

[randomlegend]

Bold of you to be throwing out :harold:s without dealing with that devastation Spikey dealt you

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He did deal with. He's been crying for hours.

[Dquincy]

I don't think I've said anything that warrants being taken the piss out of by Quincy but I also can't imagine anyone ever calling someone 'impressive' seriously.

:D It was a compliment.

[Queenslander]

We are going backwards.

⛔ QUEENSLAND BORDERS CLOSING AGAIN ⛔

#BREAKING: Queensland borders will CLOSE to NSW and the ACT from 1am this Saturday, Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk just announced.

"The Premier has said all visitors will be denied entry unless they have an exemption, and returning Queenslanders will be required to quarantine for 14 days in a hotel, at their own expense."


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[Spikey M]

Woke up feeling like shit. RIP

[Dquincy]

Woke up feeling like shit. RIP
How is your little one doing?

[Spikey M]

How is your little one doing?

Mostly sleeping when not exploding out of one end or another.

I look forward to it...

[Giggles]

There’s going to be some carnage when the schools reopen.

[Spikey M]

I honestly can't see how it's meant to work. They're germ factories at the best of times and the symptoms are so generic to start with.

[Magic]

The thought of all the older champagne socialist parents dying after their long haired freakishly clever children give them it. :drool:

[Shindig]

The thought of you losing out on your day because the ex's household all has it. :drool:

[Dquincy]

Mostly sleeping when not exploding out of one end or another.

I look forward to it...

Poor little thing. Never nice when the kids are like that. And you also feel like shit as you're looking after them 24/7.

But hopefully 'just' a gastro bug.

[Mazuuurk]

I honestly can't see how it's meant to work. They're germ factories at the best of times and the symptoms are so generic to start with.

Works fine here. They never shut them, and as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to have had any larger effect on the spread of the virus. But then again who knows, cause also it's possible between up to 40% of the people in Stockholm have had it now, they say.

[Spikey M]

Works fine here. They never shut them, and as far as I can tell it doesn't seem to have had any larger effect on the spread of the virus. But then again who knows, cause also it's possible between up to 40% of the people in Stockholm have had it now, they say.

I mean the constant isolation and testing it will need. Kids always have a cough.

[Waffdon]

Aberdeen back in lockdown :lol:

Apparently a French oil worker went to a pub whilst awaiting a test and it’s stemmed from there

[Magic]

The thought of you losing out on your day because the ex's household all has it. :drool:

Won't stop me. :)

[Magic]

Aberdeen back in lockdown :lol:

Apparently a French oil worker went to a pub whilst awaiting a test and it’s stemmed from there

Lol everywhere I am going seems to be getting locked down.

[Foe]

I bailed out of there as soon as she started announcing it.

The highlands is pure. :drool:

[Shindig]

I'll start shitting myself it tears through the Borders.

EDIT: So the BBC ticker the other day mentioned we'd tested 2.6m people in the last 8 weeks. That equates to 46,428 people a day, on average. Means the positive rate is around 2% at the moment.

[Queenslander]

It takes 1 hour and 45 minutes to cross the NSW/QLD border...

[Magic]

I'll start shitting myself it tears through the Borders.

EDIT: So the BBC ticker the other day mentioned we'd tested 2.6m people in the last 8 weeks. That equates to 46,428 people a day, on average. Means the positive rate is around 2% at the moment.

Of people that are getting tested that think they've got it... hardly anything to worry. Could even be duplicated tests, same person etc. Bullshit.

[Don]

I never thought I'd long for Shinners to go back to his work story posts but here we are.

https://www.ft.com/content/cb56dd74-57a8-46c6-810c-0680435ad3bf

Hope it all burns down, if only because of pure jealousy.

[Queenslander]

Rubbish link

[Don]

Ah balls. FT article on "could coronavirus spell the end for trendy East London?"

[Queenslander]

Thank you

[Kikó]

Antonia Cundy YESTERDAY

Last weekend, streets in some of the fashionable parts of east London seemed as busy as ever. But back in March, when the UK went into lockdown to combat the
spread of coronavirus, locals say there was something of an exodus.

“Everyone who lives here and goes on about how great it is, as soon as it locked down and as soon as they could, they got out,” says Hannah, while queueing for
falafel on Broadway Market, a street just south of London Fields in Hackney.

Hannah, who did not want to give her last name, was among them. She decamped from her flat in Whitechapel to go and stay with her boyfriend Alex in Bristol,
where there was more space to work from home and Clifton Down’s vast greenery on the doorstep. Now she is back in London, with Alex in tow. “If people could get
back to their parents’ house, they did,” he says.

At the peak of the outbreak, demand for properties in Hackney dwindled. During the first 10 weeks of lockdown, searches on Zoopla for homes in the suburbs
increased sharply, while Hackney Wick, Haggerston and Hoxton were all among the 10 least-searched-for locations in London.

Local rents have also slumped. New data from Hamptons International shows that across Hackney, the average rental price is now £1,740 a month, nearly 10 per cent
lower than what it was last year.

Hamptons says this is due to renters leaving when the pandemic hit, and to a flood of properties that would normally be let through holiday rental sites such as Airbnb
going on to the long-term rental market when lockdown brought tourism to a sudden halt.

So what does the future hold for Hackney’s gentrified neighbourhoods? Will normality return as restrictions ease — or will the pandemic spell the end for
trendy east London?

Unrecognisable places, unrecognisable prices
Haema Sundram, a family lawyer who lives on the border of Clapton and Stoke Newington in north-east Hackney, first bought a property in the borough in the
1990s. She has bought and sold a few times since and, she says, the change in the market has been striking.

“It was sort of a no-go area 30 years ago, but now it’s lots of media types and their families that tend to live here.”

Wedged between two parks and close to Stoke Newington’s villagey Church Street — an area it is hard to picture as once being “no-go” — a neat Victorian fourbedroom family home is on sale with Hunters for £1.17m.

The price tag reflects how much demand has leapt in recent years: at £1,092 per square foot, it is more expensive than a similar home in the long-established,
affluent south-west suburb of Putney. There, buyers could also live close to a common and quaint high street, but for £780 per square foot. According to
Hamptons International, average house prices in Hackney have risen by 97 per cent in the past decade.

The area’s popularity has also been fuelled by young professionals, many of whom work in the technology sector that has clustered since 2008 around Old Street
roundabout — also known as east London Tech City or Silicon Roundabout.

Just north-east of there, towards Hoxton Overground Station, a two-bedroom penthouse with double-height ceilings and exposed steel supports is on sale
through The Modern House for £1.3m.

As the offices sprang up, others followed: in 2018, Hackney had 55 per cent more businesses than it did in 2014, according to official statistics. In the five years up to
2017, nearly 250 cafés and restaurants opened in Shoreditch, in the southern tip of the borough next to the City of London.

A quieter future?
While workers still avoid the office and social-distancing guidelines limit the number of customers, many of the cafés, restaurants and bars that have become
one of Hackney’s main selling points are under threat. Hackney’s club and performance venues, meanwhile, still do not know when they might reopen.

“We really needed to open when we did,” says Anne, who works at a café near London Fields. “We’ve been busy since it’s opened but it’s really weather
dependent.”

If the night-time economy were to shrink, it would not have much effect on demand, says Tommaso Gabrieli, a professor in real estate at University College
London. “Even if the next two years are described as a very negative scenario, I’m pretty sure that there will be other renters and buyers interested in that area,” he
says.

But where the interest comes from might change.

Hackney’s population is already predicted to become proportionately older by 2050, partly because of its increasing expense. That, coupled with the fact that
young people are likely to be disproportionately affected by the economic fallout of the crisis at the end of the furlough scheme in October, means Hackney’s afterhours scene could become quieter, attracting an older crowd to the neighbourhood.

“It may not be the young start-up person, it could be a banker,” says Gabrieli. “It wouldn’t be the story of a collapse of those areas but a story maybe of change in the
type of buyer or renter.”

Youthful resilience
For now, the liveliest areas in the borough will be pinning their hopes on the young population wanting to restart their social lives in bars and restaurants. If Broadway
Market last Saturday is anything to go by, the desire is there.

“Hackney Wick last [Friday] was chaos, it was absolutely mobbed,” says Alex of the buzzy but less-developed area near the site of the 2012 London Olympics, where
there are numerous canal-side bars.

There, in a modern high-rise development overlooking the water, a two-bedroom unfurnished flat is being let for £1,733 a month through Hurford Salvi Carr. Across
the canal, a four-storey Victorian house with a home cinema and Koi carp pond overlooking Victoria Park — an 86-hectare space bordering the boroughs of
Hackney and Tower Hamlets — can be rented through Dexters for £5,499 a month.

As people like Hannah and Alex flock back to the Hackney heartlands, the areas are back on homebuyers’ minds as well. The number of searches on Zoopla for
Haggerston, London Fields and Dalston has been more than 30 per cent higher in the past 10 weeks compared with the 10 weeks before lockdown. Searches for Stoke
Newington and Hackney in general have risen by about 50 per cent.

And for some young people, certain hotspots in Hackney never lost their appeal. While Hannah says the pain of lockdown was evident in Whitechapel, which was
quiet throughout the period, and Sundram describes Stoke Newington as having been “ghostly”, Kieran, a graphic designer who has lived in the area for seven years, says
that in Broadway Market he noticed little change.

“This street was pretty much the same, it was always rammed,” he says. “A lot of the places did takeaway as soon as you could get takeaway beers.” At the top of the
road in London Fields, multiple illegal raves took place until alcohol was banned temporarily at the beginning of July.

“People don’t care around here, they were just thinking it was the holidays,” says Ali Asad, who works at Bradbury’s Ironmongers, a small hardware store on
Broadway Market. “It was crazy. I think there was no lockdown, that’s what I say.”
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2020. All rights reserved.

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[Queenslander]

Hmmm that wasnt for me

[Mazuuurk]

I mean the constant isolation and testing it will need. Kids always have a cough.

Hmm well they don't test kids here really. The idea being that they aren't very contagious (no idea if that's true or not). But pre-schools and schools do have strict routines about staying home even with the smallest symptoms, which s a pain for the parents mostly (have some friends who have had to stay home for weeks with the kids during spring, but I mean most people are home during the days working from home anyway).

[Manc]

Are Sweden still lolling this off?

[bruhnaldo]

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and 503k total cases in the state.

i'm gonna be real i think it's only a matter of time tbh. maybe United will win the Europa league or some shit before i go tho.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sJlnTMOpGM

[Don]

You'll have herd immunity, fuck all cases and be celebrating majestic displaced mortality figures about 6 months before the erratic useless cunts elsewhere. Drink it in.

[Shindig]

Of people that are getting tested that think they've got it... hardly anything to worry. Could even be duplicated tests, same person etc. Bullshit.

Oh, aye. We're testing more in general and in the local hotspots as well. It was more figuring out just how many people we usually test which is a thing twitter cried about whenever DHSC put the figures out.

[Giggles]

Everything is on the up here again and we still have a load of cunts moaning about the pub not being open.

[Lofty]

Preston lockdown but I'm in South Ribble, lording it over those plebs.

[Queenslander]

Strewth.

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[Giggles]

We’re back in lockdown.


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[niko_cee]

Country Kildare?

[Giggles]

County. Have the put country in it somewhere? Wouldn’t be anything new for RTÉ.

[niko_cee]

No, I think it got auto corrected to that for some reason.

[Giggles]

99% of the Kildare cases were in one bacon factory so anyone owns a restaurant or anything is cracking up.
There’s a pub that was my old local for a time in Leixlip called the Salmon Leap which is actually just barely into Co. Dublin so I’d say they’re trebling prices as we speak.

[Jimmy Floyd]

As long as Dublin, Cork and wherever Castlebar is don't go back in then we're golden in terms of me still having a job.

[Giggles]

Mayo. The virus wouldn’t even want to go to Mayo so you’re sorted.

[Kikó]

Stansted was relatively light on distancing especially queuing for bag drop on Ryanair. Plane was probably 40-50% full. Faro was completely dead.

[Shindig]

Tescos was packed for the first time since this whole thing started. The queue for the tills almost led back out of the door. The bloke behind me was so close his basket was clattering off me. Walked over to Brancepeth and noticed they've started putting up mannequins around the village. I don't like that village any more.

[Manc]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/09/only-half-of-britons-would-definitely-have-covid-19-vaccination

:facepalm:

[Shindig]

If it was wariness about a first generation jab, I could understand. Not some complete distrust of science.

[Don]

That's fascinating, so you're telling me younger people are less likely to take it? I think less than 2m people get the flu jab, is there a reasom why this is meant to be worrying?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Someone in my office (coming from a completely innocent disposition) was worried about having a vaccination because they thought being injected with the virus would make them ill.

[Don]

Isn't that a valid thought? Avoiding mild side-effects when you're not really at risk seems valid.

[Giggles]

We need a good spate of 20-something deaths to make people give their heads a fucking shake.

[Don]

Lewis you figured this out, yet? Needing some deaths to ensure people get jabbed up against ??? but climate change is a myth.

[Giggles]

Lewis you figured this out, yet? Needing some deaths to ensure people get jabbed up against ??? but climate change is a myth.

Not just in reference to the jabs. To all the fuckwittery from people.

Even a couple of 25 year olds from a house party would send a shockwave through here and change behaviours quicker than you can say lockdown.

[Yevrah]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/09/only-half-of-britons-would-definitely-have-covid-19-vaccination

:facepalm:

Called that months ago.

I can't say I blame them.

[Yevrah]

Isn't that a valid thought? Avoiding mild side-effects when you're not really at risk seems valid.

As was covered upthread, the standard for a vaccine to be deemed safe is fewer than 1 in 10,000 fucking up. So..., vaccinating 65m people and only ending up with 6,500 vegetables would be deemed a success.

Six and a half thousand quadraspazzed people to vaccinate against a virus that's killed fifty-thousand people? Maybe worth it (not in my mind), but then consider that immunity to this shitter may only last a matter of months and you could have to be vaccinating people four times a year, potentially giving you up to twenty-six thousand vegetables for each year we have to do it.

This does not make sense and screaming SCIENCE at people doesn't change that.

[Don]

I just meant a little fever and some muscle aches but yeah, if someone is that concerned then they absolutely won't stray near it and fair fucking play.

[phonics]

I just meant a little fever and some muscle aches but yeah, if someone is that concerned then they absolutely won't stray near it and fair fucking play.

A pro baseball player in the MLB, who got it and recovered prior to it coming back, has had to go from 90 pitches a (day/week?) to 30. This is half the problem with the disease. It seems to effect people completely randomly.

[Don]

Yeah and I've not been able to taste the tears of my e-victories but you don't see me stopping people from living their lives. Fucking be happy with your 30 pitches and open up the raves, you cunts..

[Giggles]

The only reason a rave should ever be opened is so you could torch the place full and exponentially improve society.

[Don]

Shut it, you gammon.

[7om]

The 1 in 10,000 rule doesn't result in x amount of "vegetables". It's looking for rare events. And the virus isn't always live in a vaccine. In the flu jab it is wholly inactivated. So anybody who says they have flu like symptoms after a flu jab is talking total bollocks.

[Shindig]

Nah, they're talking bollocks if they say they have flu afterwards. Flu-like symptoms can cover the side-effects of the jab because the body's going to respond to it.

[Giggles]

Shut it, you gammon.

Has there ever been anything other than vermin inside the door of one? Your boys should bring the hotdogs to the lot.

[Don]

Has there ever been anything other than vermin inside the door of one? Your boys should bring the hotdogs to the lot.

Hotdogs :D

Fam, what you're talking about in the sense of an Oceana 'up the city' and what I'm talking about are two very different things. I still wouldn't knock the former mind as they provide an entry-level access point for those living in cultural cesspits who are destined for greater things.

[Lewis]

Surely they're all the same from your little aftershave/towel corner.

[phonics]

Toby is horny

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[niko_cee]

Sadly for him even lockdown sceptics are probably bald twat sceptics as well.

[phonics]

Sadly for him even lockdown sceptics are probably bald twat sceptics as well.

His sex life seems to have dried up for some reason

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUnz1w-WAAAL2HG.jpg

[niko_cee]

Alexei Sayle probably needs to know someone is impersonating him.

[Giggles]

That's went well.


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[Jimmy Floyd]

Quit while you're behind: Join the Herd.

[Giggles]

I'd rather the effort was made and still end up in the same place than bow to the mental health brigade.

We need to get the borders closed to people and meat factory government cronies watched properly.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I just can't get used to wearing a mask. I've tried multiple re-useable ones as well as disposable ones. I sweat more than when a woman looks at me and I can't breathe properly.

[Lewis]

That last sentence could have done with a comma.

[niko_cee]

I'm now in the land of the covid.

Probably going to take a bit of getting used to all the behavioural shit we've had in the bin for months.

Flying with a mask was surprisingly shit, not least because it's basically impossible to communicate on a plane whilst wearing one.

[Dquincy]

I'm now in the land of the covid.

Probably going to take a bit of getting used to all the behavioural shit we've had in the bin for months.

Flying with a mask was surprisingly shit, not least because it's basically impossible to communicate on a plane whilst wearing one.

Did they provide the usual mid flight meal, booze, etc?

[Dquincy]

I just can't get used to wearing a mask. I've tried multiple re-useable ones as well as disposable ones. I sweat more than when a woman looks at me and I can't breathe properly.

Any woman? Or just the ones you find attractive?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Any woman? Or just the ones you find attractive?

The more attractive, the more the sweat.

[Giggles]

I'm now in the land of the covid.

Probably going to take a bit of getting used to all the behavioural shit we've had in the bin for months.

Flying with a mask was surprisingly shit, not least because it's basically impossible to communicate on a plane whilst wearing one.

Is that from a channel island to England? There’s barely time to say anything in that space of time anyway.

[Yevrah]

Masks really are shit. I understand how China got workers to shit into nappies during the Beijing Olympic opening ceremony if their population are happy to wear those things all the time when there isn't even a pandemic about.

[Boydy]

If you're in a shop long enough for a mask to annoy you, you're spending too long in there.

[Spikey M]

It really isn't that bad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If you're in a shop long enough for a mask to annoy you, you're spending too long in there.

It annoys me almost instantly.

Having glasses and a massive beard just doesn't work well with a mask.

[Yevrah]

It's probably a lot better in winter, but when you're stood in an 8 deep queue in the Tesco Metro with its sub-standard air conditioning they can hardly be described as good.

I'll wear them, but then as you know, I also like a moan.

[randomlegend]

I forget I've even got one on within five minutes, you lot are the biggest bunch of fannies I've ever seen.