Coronavirus Death Thread

[Shindig]

Even if they just sent him out with an apology, that would've been better instead of the "Well, actually ..." bollocks he spouted in the garden.

[Spikey M]

Why is it worth it? What about things that are permanent like the normal flu etc.? We could keep tier one lockdown forever (or just distancing and masks) and put a serious dent in those numbers every year.

We're back to peanut allergies again. I wonder if we'd all have to stay at home if peanuts sprouted wings.

[Kikó]

Are peanut allergies highly contagious?

[randomlegend]

Why is it worth it? What about things that are permanent like the normal flu etc.? We could keep tier one lockdown forever (or just distancing and masks) and put a serious dent in those numbers every year.

This is way more contagious than flu, which is why it will overwhelm health services in a way flu doesn't if left unchecked.

[Spikey M]

Are peanut allergies highly contagious?

You might have traces of peanut on your clothes.

[Kikó]

I don't think you've thought this through.

[Lewis]

This is way more contagious than flu, which is why it will overwhelm health services in a way flu doesn't if left unchecked.

Hypothetically then, if it didn't stand to overwhelm the health service (because they all just suffered and died at home like plague victims), would you accept the argument that an extra hundred thousand deaths (say) are worth it to prevent massive economic damage?

[Foe]

Problem being a large proportion of the vulnerable won’t be arsed about shielding and will want to just take their chances.

My gran was fobbing off the first lockdown and still milling about despite all of us asking her to be more sensible.

The younger generation don’t care, I suspect there’s a large section of the vulnerable that don’t care and there’s a mix of wet wipes/not bothered in the middle.

The PC thing to do is to try and save everyone. But that’s not happening. Should just let natural selection take its course. Ask everyone to be sensible, ask everyone to do distancing and masks and move on. Unfortunately, opening the clubs is an obvious problem that would be avoided.

I get the feeling Nicola sturgeon takes every death from this as a personal failure. As would any scientist advisor. And that is far more of a problem for me.

[Giggles]

This is way more contagious than flu, which is why it will overwhelm health services in a way flu doesn't if left unchecked.

You’re talking to an example of the general public who want to do what they want to do at all costs and will tie themselves in ridiculous knots making arguments. Waste of time.

[Shindig]

I mean, this is a problem we all failed to contain. Politically and personally, this is a catastrophe.

[Foe]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-54769055

This is the kind of shit police are going to have to deal with regularly. Arsed being an officer trying to break that up.

[Giggles]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-54769055

This is the kind of shit police are going to have to deal with regularly. Arsed being an officer trying to break that up.

That’s where the army are needed. About 40% of them brain damaged (more than already) would be a good starting message.

[Kikó]

Problem being a large proportion of the vulnerable won’t be arsed about shielding and will want to just take their chances.

My gran was fobbing off the first lockdown and still milling about despite all of us asking her to be more sensible.

The younger generation don’t care, I suspect there’s a large section of the vulnerable that don’t care and there’s a mix of wet wipes/not bothered in the middle.

The PC thing to do is to try and save everyone. But that’s not happening. Should just let natural selection take its course. Ask everyone to be sensible, ask everyone to do distancing and masks and move on. Unfortunately, opening the clubs is an obvious problem that would be avoided.

I get the feeling Nicola sturgeon takes every death from this as a personal failure. As would any scientist advisor. And that is far more of a problem for me.


This is such a bollocks turn of phrase. Most people have been compliant which is why we managed to slow down the virus earlier in the year.

Natural selection means hospitals are unable to deal with things they should deal with in normal times. That PC paragraph is so fucking wrongheaded that it makes my head hurt.

[Boydy]

Could we? I'm sure the mortgage companies, social housing providers and landlords would love that. How do we go about it? Are we going to tax everyone and clear the arrears? Or are we going to just pretend the arrears don't exist?

Neither is going to happen.
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[Lewis]

That would at least mean not having to choose between mass death and economic catastrophe.

[Don]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-54769055

This is the kind of shit police are going to have to deal with regularly. Arsed being an officer trying to break that up.

What scenes :happycry:

Why tf are the police not issuing fines there, I don't know. Given the train stations look like army bases, it seems COVID has killed off all crime too.

[Spikey M]

https://i.imgur.com/jqKRMd7.gif?noredirect

I don't see how becoming French would help much.

[Kikó]

That would at least mean not having to choose between mass death and economic catastrophe.

Adapt the economy, pivot to survive. That's what capitalism is all about, taking advantage of the market.

[Spikey M]

Adapt the economy, pivot to survive. That's what capitalism is all about, taking advantage of the market.

You want them all to reskill in cyber?

[Spoonsky]

Yes, the livelihoods. The businesses going bust. The amount of people that are going to be homeless when this ends is not to be sniffed at. It's going to be a major problem. But it's alright Brenda, no need to sheild yourself. You crack on.

Yeah, it is going to be a major problem. At the same time, a homeless person always has the potential to become housed and get a job again; there's no bringing someone back from the dead.

[Shindig]

There's likely to be a rebound, too. Although I reckon Rishi and co are probably a bit reluctant to try and force that again. :uhoh: There will be a natural rush, though. People clambering to buy shit, bugger off on holidays, open the clubs, etc.

[Spikey M]

Holidays are going to triple in price after this shit.

[Magic]

Holidays are going to triple in price after this shit.

You're so fucking selfish. Dead people can't go on holiday. Think about that and stay at home #socialdistance #protectthenhs

[Spikey M]

Dead people can't go on holiday.

You're right. Saga holidays ftw. Cheers mate. I needed that.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/half-slovakia-population-covid-tested-covid-one-day

Mandatory testing? The world has lost it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You'll be swimming the channel and walking across when they open the clubs.

[Queenslander]

New years eve and Australia day fireworks have been cancelled in Brisbane.

Brisbane hasnt had a 2nd wave what do they know that we dont know?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Maybe they're the first people in the world to finally realise that fireworks are shit.

[Queenslander]

Could not agree more but both days are huge money earners for hospitality places.

[Spikey M]

Maybe they're the first people in the world to finally realise that fireworks are shit.

I wish my neighbour would. Every fucking autumn he's at it, and he's not even good at it. There's always about 5 minutes between each firework and he lives on his own. What's the point?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They should be banned (and I mean completely banned, no firework ever to go off again) purely on the grounds that they scare animals half to death, but they are also the least entertaining thing ever devised by mankind, except perhaps my posts on here.

[Alex]

I wish my neighbour would. Every fucking autumn he's at it, and he's not even good at it. There's always about 5 minutes between each firework and he lives on his own. What's the point?

:D

I've nothing particularly against fireworks (although they are not something I've ever bought and set off myself) but that is proper oddball behaviour.

[Don]

Hear, hear, I've always wondered how people derive joy from it, much like ten-pin bowling.

The 'Boris could have saved thousands with an earlier lockdown' headlines are back. In other news, Boris could have housed every homeless person in a 5-star hotel for the rest of their lives.

[Spikey M]

:D

I've nothing particularly against fireworks (although they are not something I've ever bought and set off myself) but that is proper oddball behaviour.

He probably thinks he's providing a public service. He's the same cunt that was banging out Vera Lynn at 18000 decibels every Thursday of the first lockdown.

[Yevrah]

Fireworks are indeed rubbish and adults doing them as a solo activity can be lumped in with those 40 year old weirdos who also go to theme parks on their own.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fireworks are great if shit goes wrong.

My Dad used to host a big bonfire night and something would always fail.

Katherine wheels flying off the post they were nailed too was a common thing as were rockets changing trajectory as the milk bottle they were placed on would fall over. The biggest fail was one whipping round to the crowd and going inside a woman's cardigan.

[Magic]

Lol now Turdgeon is saying she would have put the whole country in to full lockdown like England but the furlough not being available is stopping her so it's all Boris's fault. #politicalvirus

[Don]

Apparently Magner Carter is allowing clubs to open. Mr Carter, we owe you :cool:

[Lewis]

I don't think we'll shut ourselves down like fannies again, but - BUT - the naval base might tell all non-essentials to get lost. It could go either way.

[phonics]

Boris is on top of the situation, this is NOT a lockdown. That is fear mongering.

https://i.imgur.com/mnVZj42.png

We're rebranding it to...

National Inside Month

https://i.imgur.com/aw3krNx.png

[Don]

You gotta provide some context, just posting in disjointed fonts that make no sense is not cool.

[Baz]

Is that genuine? National Inside Month?

[Spikey M]

"Advent Extra"? There's no way it can be genuine.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's not genuine.

[Yevrah]

Phonics aptly demonstrating how fake news works there.

[Don]

My Monday evening weekly shop at Lidl has informed me panic buying has restarted. I mean first time round you can put it down to idiocy but second time round is just downright hilarious.

[Spikey M]

It really is mental. The first time round it was borderline understandable. We've all seen the disaster movies with looting, Zombies and Will Smith crying. But fucking hell lads... we've been here before. You're not going to have to use your baby photos as toilet roll. get a grip.

[Raoul Duke]

The supermarkets could do a better job at restricting people from buying loads of shit but that's not really in their interests, I suppose #NationaliseTesco

The Lidl here was queuing 30-deep or so the other day, but Albert Heijn (kinda Waitrose-ish) was fine

[Spikey M]

I've just seen a Tesco advert saying they're installing a traffic light system to manage the flow of people and I really hope that's as literal as it sounds. :D

Edit: it looks like it's just to let you know when you can enter the shop, so my dream of delays due to a collision on the corner of Pasta and Gluten Free will have to remain a dream for now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I went to my local Sainsburys today and I didn't see any panic buying although I didn't check on the toilet paper.

Hopefully that continues.

[Don]

The cracking 15 minute primetime slots on the news barraging the public with emotional propaganda and fear are back :cool:

Apparently there's a disease going round. At least there's no other current affairs event of significance that may have justified zipping up your COVID boners for.

[Kikó]

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mass test and trace in liverpool.

[Spikey M]

They're a compliant lot. Should go well.

[Yevrah]

Fucking finally.

We at least need to try and do this shit.

[Spikey M]

Fucking finally.

We at least need to try and do this shit.

We do. But choose your fucking battles. Trial it in Berwick-upon-Tweed or something. Give yourself a chance of success to build from. Liverpool? Fuck me.

[phonics]

Having never done it, do they take multiple tests? The whole 70% hit rate thing seems like you're fucked either way.

[Queenslander]

Do you blokes have science nerds testing the sewerage?

[Spoonsky]

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mass test and trace in liverpool.

Someone must have read Taz's post and aimed for poetic justice. Just got the wrong town.

[Spikey M]

A Tory government have picked the most conspiracy minded and anti-Tory City in the country to be a testing ground. This is amazing. :happycry:

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I'm not big into the Bill Gates' vaccine scene but the way Jeremy Hunt has been banging on about testing the whole country every month come early next year is definitely throwing off some Illuminati vibes.

[hfswjyr]

Do you blokes have science nerds testing the sewerage?

Strangely enough, this is something I know a bit about. They certainly could test the sewerage for COVID (as many other countries do), but due to factors such as housing density, combined sewers (stormwater/wastewater in same pipes), and general complexity of old sewer systems, it would be very difficult to trace from sewerage testing.

Not to mention if there are loads of cases about, the positive results will tell you very little anyway.

[Queenslander]

Strangely enough, this is something I know a bit about. They certainly could test the sewerage for COVID (as many other countries do), but due to factors such as housing density, combined sewers (stormwater/wastewater in same pipes), and general complexity of old sewer systems, it would be very difficult to trace from sewerage testing.

Not to mention if there are loads of cases about, the positive results will tell you very little anyway.

Ahh that makes sense. Brisbane is a wee bit smaller than the UK.

[Shindig]

Yeah, I'm not big into the Bill Gates' vaccine scene but the way Jeremy Hunt has been banging on about testing the whole country every month come early next year is definitely throwing off some Illuminati vibes.

I think it's more they're really, really pinning their hopes on a jab ending this. It would be nice if by sheer luck or one decision, something went right for this government.

[Don]

492 :drool:

[Giggles]

Is that good or bad? I never know with some of you headcases.

[Don]

It's not just a number, you sick fuck, it's real lives.

492 :drool:

[Giggles]

I’m going to say it’s high seeing as you’re so happy about it.

[Shindig]

Yeah, it just kinda-sorta doubled. Right on cue for Theresa May to question the death projections.

[Magic]

I see Turdgeon wants to impose fixed penalty fines beginning at £60 for people who travel. What a monstrous cunt she is. :harold:

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

I see Turdgeon wants to impose fixed penalty fines beginning at £60 for people who travel. What a monstrous cunt she is. :harold:

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[Spikey M]

I’m going to say it’s high seeing as you’re so happy about it.

When we locked down the first time we were seeing 15 or so deaths per day. A month later it was 1000 a day. We lock down again tomorrow with 492 deaths per day. Where we're going to be in a month is anyones guess.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Based on that equation, nearly 33,000 deaths per day. No survivors.

[Spikey M]

:drool:

[Manc]

Furlough now extended to March.

[Jimmy Floyd]

As lockdown will be.

[Spikey M]

Yup. I don't know what our deaths are going to be in 4 weeks (presumably not 33,000 per day), but they are going to pretty fucking high and whilst I get it's all on a 4 week delay, I just can't see how you relax restrictions whilst 1000+ people are dying every day when you've no realistic forecast of what effect this lockdown is going to have.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The only thing complicating it is Christmas. I don't know what they're going to do about Christmas and I don't think they do either. Is it worth extending the subsequent lockdown by three months just so that you can get three days of Christmas in? I would say not, but my observations of people with kids suggest that for those with kids Christmas is basically the be all and end all of human existence, so I don't know.

[Yevrah]

Yep, if they're prepared to say we're open in four weeks time when the deaths will be far higher than anything we've seen so far then we wouldn't have locked down in the first place.

Boris has no backbone, so I think Christmas will happen in one form or other and it will represent the first time the majority of the public will be happy to put their lives ahead of saving others.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think they'll pause all restrictions for 3 days (Eve, Day and Boxing) and then back to lockdown.

[Dave.]

I think they'll pause all restrictions for 3 days (Eve, Day and Boxing) and then back to lockdown.

Yep, this.

[Andy]

I really hope they aren't stupid enough to stop the restrictions for 3 days but nothing would surprise me now.

[-james-]

Just turn a blind eye and let people have their grannies over if they really want to.

[Spikey M]

Just turn a blind eye and let people have their grannies over if they really want to.

I think this will be it. They will officially leave the rules in place but will tell the police / wardens not to enforce things for a bit and ask people to 'be sensible'.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Grannies need to gum a bit of dry turkey.

[Andy]

Just turn a blind eye and let people have their grannies over if they really want to.

Which is fine until there's a huge spike and we end up with tougher restrictions for longer than needs be just for a couple of days.

[-james-]

It's no more reckless than this week's "right, you've got five days until DEFCON 4 lockdown kicks in, make sure you get the mother of all piss ups in before we close pubs".

[Don]

You all need to stop being such fucking prudes. Imagine the scenes on that Boxing Day if they do the 3 day thing. It'll be a white Christmas alright :happycry:

[Foe]

The majority of people will ignore the restrictions for Christmas anyway.

So they can either accept that, or have the public resent them and/or resist if being stopped.

I’m pretty good with following the guidance but if the government think I’ll sit about my flat alone over the festive period they’re in for a disappointment.

Would be interesting to know the percentage of lockdown fines that have actually been paid.

[Shindig]

It's no more reckless than this week's "right, you've got five days until DEFCON 4 lockdown kicks in, make sure you get the mother of all piss ups in before we close pubs".

"And don't forget the fireworks."

[Yevrah]

Speaking at a Downing Street press conference, Mr Johnson said there was "light at the end of the tunnel" and the restrictions would "automatically expire" on 2 December.

Why is he saying things like this? Does he actually enjoy a u-turn?

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's an eternal optimist who has become PM at a time when only pessimism will do. He's kind of broken, I think.

[Don]

Cause u-turns lost their significance after the 6th one in a fortnight probably. Post-truth politics baby.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/05/operation-moonshot-rapid-covid-test-missed-over-50-of-cases-in-pilot

At this stage I wouldn't be surprised to see someone atthe roundtable suggest just getting everyone to take the test twice to overcome this.

[Giggles]

Numbers way down here but it’s only making the mongs call for it to end prematurely.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/05/covid-immune-response-much-faster-and-stronger-post-infection-coronavirus-scientists-say

nUmBeRs WaY dOwN hErE bUt It'S oNlY mAkInG tHe MoNgS cAlL fOr It To EnD pReMaTuReLy

#otc #stopthecount #feedtheyak

[Giggles]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/05/covid-immune-response-much-faster-and-stronger-post-infection-coronavirus-scientists-say

nUmBeRs WaY dOwN hErE bUt It'S oNlY mAkInG tHe MoNgS cAlL fOr It To EnD pReMaTuReLy

#otc #stopthecount #feedtheyak

That might have worked better without that bullshit link.

Probably would have worked better in 2016 when that kind of thing of thing was popular on Reddit too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

There are at least 30 kids gathered in the park beneath me with a big set of speakers, all smoking whatever. I reckon, by law, I should be allowed to strafe them with a vintage automatic weapon.

Apparently police had bottles thrown at them in the next town along earlier in the week when they tried to break up a similar gathering (this is suburban Surrey). Lockdown is creating this dreadful situation whereby there are no honest citizens out and about anywhere and the human sewage run riot in the hole that is left.

[Manc]

Egg the fuck out of them.

[Yevrah]

Would you consider calling your local police station and dobbing them in?

[Don]

If you want to be a pointless cunt at least listen to Manc and have some fun doing so.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Would you consider calling your local police station and dobbing them in?

No, it's not worth the trouble. I just find it incredible that there are 30 sets of parents who don't give a fuck where their kids are.

That said, I have got 4 out of date eggs in the fridge.

[Giggles]

There are at least 30 kids gathered in the park beneath me with a big set of speakers, all smoking whatever. I reckon, by law, I should be allowed to strafe them with a vintage automatic weapon.

Apparently police had bottles thrown at them in the next town along earlier in the week when they tried to break up a similar gathering (this is suburban Surrey). Lockdown is creating this dreadful situation whereby there are no honest citizens out and about anywhere and the human sewage run riot in the hole that is left.

Yes lockdown is the problem there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Do it :drool:

[Foe]

Do quail eggs have the same menace as a projectile used on peasants?

[Disco]

Better a vigilante than a grass.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Better a vigilante than a grass.

I'm pretty sure that was Batman's mantra.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Which is fine until there's a huge spike and we end up with tougher restrictions for longer than needs be just for a couple of days.

Is there anyone on here who would actually call the police in a scenario like this?

[hfswjyr]

I'm more interested in if Jimmy could hit them from that distance with an egg. All those years of fielding must count for something here.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I never had a great arm compared to other cricketers, but if there's one thing I've learned from watching office rounders (not my office, I hasten to add) it is that most people are dangerously mal-co-ordinated when it comes to catching and throwing, to a far greater degree than I'd imagined. I would let women off the hook as they don't understand sport or why you would try to catch or throw a ball in the first place, but the men are just as bad, with their pansy custard arms and reacting to a flying ball once it's already flown over their heads. What have they been doing all their lives? If we were all stuck on a desert island and the only available weaponry was oranges and grapefruits, I'd be like the Terminator.

[Baz]

All I’m getting is you’re jealous your office doesn’t have a rounders team.

[Spikey M]

I thought Rounders died in the 90's.

[Magic]

Walking to a different tier today to get blottoed. :drool:

[Giggles]

How does rounders officially differ to baseball?

[Disco]

They have different rules.

[Don]

Walking to a different tier today to get blottoed. :drool:

Wait a fuck, your pubs open? How tf did we overtake you in stupidity? Ffs.


They have different rules.

:rasta:

[Ian]

It's not about the sensible-ness of the decision, alcoholism is just the national sport up here.

[Magic]

Omg it was glorious. :drool:

[Spikey M]

And now he's off to sleep in a racing car. He's donned us all.

[Waffdon]

Walking to a different tier today to get blottoed. :drool:

The Vault? :lol:

[Magic]

Milton Inn. No track and trace either. :cool:

[Baz]

Did you finger anyone?

[Waffdon]

Milton Inn. No track and trace either. :cool:

Oh, Jesus.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I went for a walk earlier and had to change my route because the small parade of shops near Hampton Court Palace was completely rammed with people to the extent that both pavements were blocked, mostly with people queuing up for expensive takeaway coffee as a proxy for meeting their posh wanker friends and standing around on the street with pushchairs three-wide. There were also a shit ton (say, 30-50) of lycra cyclists sat around in groups on the bridge steps (why is this the only sport allowed to continue?)

Lockdown does not exist.

[Yevrah]

My gut was/is that nowhere near as many people would abide by it this time.

[Danny]

And now he's off to sleep in a racing car. He's donned us all.

:D

[Spikey M]

I went for a walk earlier and had to change my route because the small parade of shops near Hampton Court Palace was completely rammed with people to the extent that both pavements were blocked, mostly with people queuing up for expensive takeaway coffee as a proxy for meeting their posh wanker friends and standing around on the street with pushchairs three-wide. There were also a shit ton (say, 30-50) of lycra cyclists sat around in groups on the bridge steps (why is this the only sport allowed to continue?)

Lockdown does not exist.

I went to Argos at a the local retail park yesterday and found the same. Barely any parking spaces. Massive queues for Home Bargains. The only change was that DFS was shut (which is always empty anyway) and Argos are bringing your shit to the door.

There's so much 'bubbling' and 'childcare support' going on as well. People are just carrying on as normal. Operation 'Shield the Vulnerable and let the rest of us crack on' is a go.

That operation may need a snappier name. I'm recommending 'Operation Club Doors', but I'm open to suggestions.

[Baz]

If you’re out there mingling with them, you’re a problem too.

Don’t go for walks and don’t go to Argos if you’re gonna moan about people not staying home.

[Shindig]

There's been no change to traffic around here. It was completely dead first time around. We're quite royally buggered.

[Spikey M]

If you’re out there mingling with them, you’re a problem too.

Don’t go for walks and don’t go to Argos if you’re gonna moan about people not staying home.

Show me where I moaned, cunt chops.

[Spikey M]

I'm repeating myself here, but fuck it: The rules at the moment are that Spikey, Ian and Jimmy can't meet up for a piss up because Ian might go round his nans and pass it on to her (the prick). In the first lockdown, the first step was to stop Ian going to see his nan (the prick) and it made absolute sense.

In this lockdown, they've only applied that in a blanket sense and it makes no sense. There is a clear difference in risk between me, Jimmy and Ian dying from Covid and Ians Nan dying from Covid and yet... no difference in restrictions. Mental.

Until Ians dickhead Nan is expected to lookafter herself, I don't really see why anyone else should be arsed about doing so.

[Shindig]

You can't really say then when your nan winds up hospitalised with flu and the ventilator she needs is taken up by a fat 30 year old diabetic with Covid.

[Spikey M]

You can't really say then when your nan winds up hospitalised with flu and the ventilator she needs is taken up by a fat 30 year old diabetic with Covid.

The 30 year old diabetic should also be shielding.

[Shindig]

Why? If it's controlled, they'll be fine, right?

What was wrong with your wife to fuck her up? Should she have been shielding? It's a virus. You don't know what it'll do til it does it.

[randomlegend]

Spikey M

If it were the case that only the obviously vulnerable could get sick enough to need hospital or ITU care then your argument would make sense. But that isn't the case. Even if it's only a relatively small proportion of the seemingly healthy who get significantly unwell, if you're getting huge numbers of cases then there will still be enough sickies to overwhelm hospitals over winter.

No matter how much people are told, they really don't seem to get how badly overstretched hospitals are in winter.

[Spikey M]

Why? If it's controlled, they'll be fine, right?

What was wrong with your wife to fuck her up? Should she have been shielding? It's a virus. You don't know what it'll do til it does it.

She had Pneumonia after the Flu (maybe Covid), but that didn't appear on the shielding list and she didn't get a letter. She did talk to her employer about it but no dice. She had to work. As far as I'm concerned she should have been shielding and should be this time too.

Statistically I think we understand what it's going to do and who it's likely to effect very well.

[randomlegend]

Yes, likely to.

[Spikey M]

Spikey M

If it were the case that only the obviously vulnerable could get sick enough to need hospital or ITU care then your argument would make sense. But that isn't the case. Even if it's only a relatively small proportion of the seemingly healthy who get significantly unwell, if you're getting huge numbers of cases then there will still be enough sickies to overwhelm hospitals over winter.

No matter how much people are told, they really don't seem to get how badly overstretched hospitals are in winter.

What happened to all those ventilators the lads at the car factories were knocking up for us? Can't they get a load of student doctors to manage them for a bit?

[randomlegend]

If you wanna die then sure.

[Lewis]

Australian doctors are expected to cover everything from field surgery to hypnosis when our precious tarts can't sit and watch a tube go up and down, but they'll still threaten to move there every time they don't get a payrise. :harold:

[randomlegend]

I assume you're talking about rural Australian GPs, jobs which pay absolutely absurd salaries because nobody will do them.

[Lewis]

No, just your average hospital doctor.

[randomlegend]

Well then you're just wrong.

[Lewis]

Well I'm not. Similarly, their teachers dabble in everything from housing services to relationship guidance. You lot just take the piss.

[Yevrah]

The problem with asking the vulnerable to take care of themselves while everyone else cracks on is that they simply won't (in the same way the non-vulnerable aren't following the rules) and a huge amount of them will die as a result.

[Boydy]

How do people with health conditions that make them vulnerable avoid going to work if businesses are told they can just crack on?

[igor_balis]

Sometimes i feel like this thread is just a sustained tth effort to gaslight RL into total insanity.

[Manc]

Anyone listening to Lewis on any subject is asking to be driven insane.

[Spikey M]

How do people with health conditions that make them vulnerable avoid going to work if businesses are told they can just crack on?

Furlough.

[Disco]

You can't just choose to do that though.

[randomlegend]

Well I'm not. Similarly, their teachers dabble in everything from housing services to relationship guidance. You lot just take the piss.

Yes, you are. I have friends from Uni who do my job in Australia and the expectations are no different.

I also work with Australian doctors who've moved here and same thing.

You need proper training to manage ITU patients beyond the scope of an undergraduate medical degree.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ian's Nan has taken a pasting on the last page, although you'd have to say it's deserved.

[randomlegend]

Even if it were true, do you actually think that's a good thing? People just having a go at stuff they aren't actually trained for?

[Lewis]

I don't think Erinsborough would have won the 2017 'Most Liveable Suburb' award if their healthcare was sub-standard.

[Disco]

They could if it was comparable to other places.

[randomlegend]

I don't think Erinsborough would have won the 2017 'Most Liveable Suburb' award if their healthcare was sub-standard.

Which it's not, because they don't have medical students running ventilators.

[Spikey M]

Dr Kennedy could run a whole ward of ventilators while drinking red wine from his sports bottle MATE.

[Alex]

Dr Kennedy could run a whole ward of ventilators while drinking red wine from his sports bottle MATE.

He would probably find time to instigate an affair with one of the more attractive nurses doing the rounds while he was at it, too.

[Lewis]

The resident saucy nurse is a lezzer now, which is doubly unfortunate just as Susan reaches the sort of age where her MS should be more of an issue than it is.

[Foe]

What you Brian Boitano do, if he were here today?

I bet he’d kick an ass or two. That’s what Brian Boitano would do.

[niko_cee]

What the fuck is this Danish mink-human coronavirus business?

[Shindig]

Minks were infected following exposure from infected humans. Minks can act as a reservoir of SARS-CoV-2, passing the virus between them, and pose a risk for virus spill-over from mink to humans. People can then transmit this virus within the human population. Additionally, spill-back (human to mink transmission) can occur. It remains a concern when any animal virus spills in to the human population, or when an animal population could contribute to amplifying and spreading a virus affecting humans. As viruses move between human and animal populations, genetic modifications in the virus can occur. These changes can be identified through whole genome sequencing, and when found, experiments can study the possible implications of these changes on the disease in humans.

I'm guessing they don't want some kind of vicious mink on human on mink cycle. Or some super strain to come out of it.

[Lewis]

Neighbours supervet Steve Parker would have clocked it early doors. :cool:

[Don]

Does this mean I should cool off shagging minks for a while?

It's all gone a bit quiet on this bullshit thanks to the Trump show but I've bought my fireworks and have phoned the lads round to celebrate the 50K mark being broken this week. No footage of swat teams raiding these twats who refused to close up their businesses with their BTECs in law?

[hfswjyr]

I honestly thought Mink was a town in Denmark until just now.

[Magic]

Does this mean I should cool off shagging minks for a while?

It's all gone a bit quiet on this bullshit thanks to the Trump show but I've bought my fireworks and have phoned the lads round to celebrate the 50K mark being broken this week. No footage of swat teams raiding these twats who refused to close up their businesses with their BTECs in law?

Word is it's dropping again.

[mugbull]

Covid positive :happycry:

No symptoms other than loss of smell and taste, which has been going for a week and is really a bitch. Has allowed me to drink tea for the first time in years though

[Don]

Come back for sympathy when it's been 8 months, you bastard

[mugbull]

You haven't had a sense of taste for 8 months?

[Spikey M]

Years.

[Don]

It recovered to about 20% after a month or so but no further progress since. I can make out notes on extreme flavours/scents but nowhere near functional. It's happened to thousands (see related facebook group).

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you did a blind taste test with one of your turds and a potato croquette, could you tell the difference?

[Boydy]

Years.
:D

Lol

[Yevrah]

Taz actually has Long COVID. :eyemouth:

[Lewis]

There is a definite type of person who seems to be suffering from 'long covid' (or at least moaning publicly about it) and Taz isn't it.

[Magic]

Vaccine ready lads. Pfizer. Invest invest invest.

[Don]

Vaccine ready lads. Pfizer. Invest invest invest.

So soon after election? Almost like it was planned :sherlock:

[randomlegend]

Told you I was ITK

[Spikey M]

If it ain't British then I want no part of it. Piss of were full.

[niko_cee]

Seeing as the UK only has 30m doses on order of this, and it's made by an American Company (that's 750m doses pre-ordered in priority for them I would guess), I would imagine it'd be a fairly long time before someone comes looking to stab you with it Spikey.

[mugbull]

It recovered to about 20% after a month or so but no further progress since. I can make out notes on extreme flavours/scents but nowhere near functional. It's happened to thousands (see related facebook group).

Jesus. Link me fam.

[Don]

I was using someone else's facebook, I don't have an account and searching through google seems difficult. Should be easily found though.

And I wouldn't worry too much as most people recovered it in a week or two. We chosen few remain to wander the planet eating our way through the shit leftovers of xmas selection boxes.

[Yevrah]

Serious question, have you given up hope of ever getting it back?

[Spikey M]

Seeing as the UK only has 30m doses on order of this, and it's made by an American Company (that's 750m doses pre-ordered in priority for them I would guess), I would imagine it'd be a fairly long time before someone comes looking to stab you with it Spikey.

I've changed my mind after finding out that it could ruin Kebabs and beer for me. Big Vlad can stick me with the Russian one now for all I care.

[Yevrah]

I wonder what the most irritating, but not actually life impeding affliction is that one can get?

[Don]

Serious question, have you given up hope of ever getting it back?

Yep, I came to terms with it all and it doesn't bother me any more save:

- food-centric events
- risk of consuming expired food/unwashed anus
- possible correlation with rising nihilism

[Spikey M]

I wonder what the most irritating, but not actually life impeding affliction is that one can get?

Chronic Hiccups. Some people have it for years.

[Alex]

Chronic Hiccups. Some people have it for years.

You would definitely want to hang yourself after a couple of weeks.

[Spikey M]

I tell myself to fuck off after about a minute of it.

[Alex]

Can you imagine years and years of every new person you meet going "have you tried just holding your breath mate?".

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Or trying to scare you.

[Spikey M]

This lot have clearly been discussing how they can be more understandable to the common man, so now they've fucked off the slides in favour of "We've won a football match, but we haven't won the cup" :D

[Manc]

Boris on peak bumbling form.

[Boydy]

Boris on peak bumbling form.

He's so fucking annoying to listen to. Just say a whole sentence for once ffs.

[Manc]

Van Tam shouldn't be in front of a camera.

[Jimmy Floyd]

People who don't like sport trying to use sporting analogies is the fucking worst thing. In fact, people who don't like sport are the worst thing.

[Alex]

That "distant bugle of the scientific cavalry coming over the brow of the hill" line is probably the most Boris thing he's ever said in his entire career. Just a peak example of his love of unnecessarily trying to dress a point up in some sort of vaguely Churchillian language.

He always sounds proper pleased with himself when he does this too.

[Baz]

He’s an absolute knob.

Shame covid didn’t hit him harder.

[Boydy]

People who don't like sport trying to use sporting analogies is the fucking worst thing. In fact, people who don't like sport are the worst thing.

I don't mind people who just aren't into it because it's not their thing or whatever but people who will actively let you know about it and think themselves superior or say something like "SPORTSBALL!!!" are going to the fucking gulag when I'm in charge.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It always comes from a place of them assuming that sport's a trivial subject, when it really isn't. 'Show them the red card!' fuck off.

[Shindig]

"It's only 22 people kicking a ball around."

Aye, and they have families, potentially short careers and a paying audience, Pet.

[Spikey M]

Van Tam shouldn't be in front of a camera.

He's terrible. Why is he saying "things can and do go wrong with quality testing" about vaccines on live TV? Then he gets the arseache when he gets asked about AntiVaxxers. Fucking knob.

Even Brigadier Broomstickuphisarse was better.

[Spikey M]

1325856194666385409?s=19

:D

[igor_balis]

Yikes, just got THE NOTIFICATION from the app.

Contact tracing got me, gotta self isolate until 23.59 16/11/2020. Amazed it's taken this long with me in central birm/new street/sainsbos etc every day.

[Jimmy Floyd]

RIP. I still haven't downloaded the app. Fuck the police.

[igor_balis]

To clarify I'm not positive, just been near someone. Fair play, always had you down as a popo hating renegade jim.

[Don]

Has a crafty wank at the numerous cleavages of the 16 year old sluts from his balcony under the cloak of neighbourhood watch and then fails to do his duties where the good folk of Serco are inolved :nono:

[Spikey M]

I feel like you've missed a memo.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That's why I don't give my details to Serco, in their world it's just balcony wanks at cleavage, and perhaps twenty minutes' missionary on St George's Day. They'll hunt the deviants down, like dogs.

[Lewis]

I don't have the app. I've written my details out loads of times, but I reckon they just bin those.

[Don]

I feel like you've missed a memo.

I tell you what you've missed mate; bench day.

[phonics]

I’ve had a couple, who is wanking to balcony inhabiting 16 year olds in this metaphor?

[Mike]

Why are they on balconies at this time of year anyway, it’s far too cold. Especially if they’re not wrapped up in big coats and jumpers.

[Magic]

I've never given my real details, don't have the app and generally take photos of the QR codes lol.

[Spikey M]

I've not been anywhere that actually enforced it / had the code in an obvious place. So I have the app, but I've never opened it.

[Kikó]

I also don't have the app or a balcony.

[Shindig]

Balconies kill more people than covid. :dc:

[Spikey M]

Other than RL and potentially the teacher crew, is anyone on here likely to actually get the vaccine? They're obviously starting with the most vulnerable and working backwards, which makes sense and should nip the deaths (if not the cases) in the bud. I don't reckon they'll bother with the healthy under 50's. Especially if this is going to be seasonal.

[Shindig]

I think they'll go hard the first time around. If they can diminish or wipe this out, they'll take every opportunity.

[Spikey M]

I think they'll go hard the first time around. If they can diminish or wipe this out, they'll take every opportunity.

I think they would if they had enough to vaccinate everyone all at once, but I think it's going to arrive in relatively slow drips and drabs and I wonder if come June when all the vulnerable have been covered, the cases have dried up and nobody is dying anymore, if that'll take the urgency out of it.

[niko_cee]

*dribs

But yeah, you're right. No one on here (maybe Giggles, or some of the old GR crew if they aren't already dead) is getting this.

Although LR did look to have some serious comorbidities.

[Spikey M]

I'm from Essex, you're lucky I didn't say Drabs and drips.

[Baz]

I know you said potentially but it’s look like teachers and other school staff aren’t being offered it early. When someone asked why they weren’t on the list of early receivers, it caused the biggest bumbleathon in Boris’ long history of them.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can see why teachers would get it earlier than me, but I'm not sure they should necessarily get it before the millions of old duffers who might actually die of it.

[Spikey M]

I know you said potentially but it’s look like teachers and other school staff aren’t being offered it early. When someone asked why they weren’t on the list of early receivers, it caused the biggest bumbleathon in Boris’ long history of them.

He will get bullied into another U-turn B-Turn you'd hope. If it's true that Schools, colleges and Universities are what ramped up the 2nd wave, then teachers are in high risk environments with no PPE (well, only masks).

[Spikey M]

I can see why teachers would get it earlier than me, but I'm not sure they should necessarily get it before the millions of old duffers who might actually die of it.

They shouldn't be top of the last, no, but they should be on the list somewhere.

[niko_cee]

The only problem with [only] giving it to the vulnerable [elderly] is that if you want to mass sterilise the population it's not much point focusing on that lot.

I've said too much.

[Magic]

You can just imagine the sort of under-40s that will want vaccinated. :sick:

[Spikey M]

You can just imagine the sort of under-40s that will want vaccinated. :sick:

Why? I'm getting the Flu jab this year. It didn't kill me, but I never want to feel like I did in January ever again. 2 weeks of misery avoided for what, £20? I don't much fancy having covid either. I enjoy the simple things in life like the taste of food and not having the heart of a 60 year old.

[niko_cee]

You're from Essex, it's too late.

[Kikó]

I mean the vaccine is still a little away despite yesterdays news. If it was approved, then I'd get it. I can't imagine the younger population will see much of it this year anyway.

[Ian]

Matt Hancock saying they're ready for the roll-out of a vaccine.

Given how well the WORLD BEATING track and trace system went I assume he means a few Tory MPs have got sons with a driving license and a few van hires ready to go.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I wasn't aware until Grandpa Joe said it yesterday that Americans say vuk-SEEN (or maybe just he does). They should get it last for that reason alone.

[Spikey M]

Matt Hancock saying they're ready for the roll-out of a vaccine.

Given how well the WORLD BEATING track and trace system went I assume he means a few Tory MPs have got sons with a driving license and a few van hires ready to go.

The NHS are being put in charge of it apparently and they've experience with mass vaccination runs (albeit not on this scale), so as long as they don't get Mark Francois wife in to oversee it (fair and open competition permitting obvs) we should be golden.

[Ian]

Don't you badmouth Mark Francois or his wife, he survived the Somme for you.

[Spikey M]

Sorry, I forget myself. I'll do an extra minutes silence for him tomorrow.

[Boydy]

Mark Francois's wife has probably left him by now anyway.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They divorced in 2006. She knew.

[Boydy]

Yeah, I just looked that up. :D

[Spikey M]

Mark Francois's wife has probably left him by now anyway.

2006 apparently.

[Boydy]

Well any other partner he may have had has probably left him recently too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Young Mark Francois. I could divorce that.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/09/04/Mark-Francois_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq-gaKsLgbA6-uokDv4MbJV0L_1AzX9OAop4z8myOQPks.jpg?imwidth=480

[Baz]

He will get bullied into another U-turn B-Turn you'd hope. If it's true that Schools, colleges and Universities are what ramped up the 2nd wave, then teachers are in high risk environments with no PPE (well, only masks).

Which they clearly are. The spike literally started in September when the schools went back.

[Manc]

Why? I'm getting the Flu jab this year. It didn't kill me, but I never want to feel like I did in January ever again. 2 weeks of misery avoided for what, £20? I don't much fancy having covid either. I enjoy the simple things in life like the taste of food and not having the heart of a 60 year old.

How old are you?

[Spikey M]

How old are you?

34.

[igor_balis]

2006 it was

[Manc]

34.

And your mother's maiden name?

[Spikey M]

And your mother's maiden name?

Where are we going here?

[Don]

Tally Tuesday should deliver something in excess of 500 today. 50k mark being broke tomorrow.

[Waffdon]

And your mother's maiden name?

:D

[Waffdon]

Where are we going here?

First pet name too pls