Coronavirus Death Thread

[Dquincy]

Same as that. One of the legs of mine is broken and I have parcel tape holding it together but fucked if I’m going anywhere near one.

Last time I went to an opticians was 21 years ago. But I can't work out why I never went back.

[Boydy]

Don't even need a new prescription. :moop:

[Giggles]

RIP Boydy.

[Boydy]

Did get the leg on my glasses fixed though so they'll stop falling off my face though.

First time I've found a mask to be properly uncomfortable and inconvenient too.

[randomlegend]

What are the headaches like?

[Spikey M]

Paging Dr Migraine.

[Boydy]

They're generally behind my eyes. Remind me a lot of the ones I used to get before getting my eyes tested and finding out I needed glasses which is why I thought I maybe needed a stronger prescription. The optician said I might just be staring at screens too long without taking regular enough breaks.


I probably need to drink more water too.

[Spikey M]

"Local women have been commenting on just how handsome The Queensland Prowler is. Dorothy, 76, had this to say "He doesn't look like a pervert but he can peek at my gusset anytime""

[Kikó]

Did get the leg on my glasses fixed though so they'll stop falling off my face though.

First time I've found a mask to be properly uncomfortable and inconvenient too.

Legs :D

[Queenslander]

"Local women have been commenting on just how handsome The Queensland Prowler is. Dorothy, 76, had this to say "He doesn't look like a pervert but he can peek at my gusset anytime""

:lol:

[Ian]

You see many mighty beards nowadays but not many which are actively trying to become one with the eyebrows.

[Don]

Can we have that don made a mod. That's the alpha energy we all need rn, not gimps :D-ing RL's posts in my absence :nono:

[John Arne]

The outbreak here in HCMC seems to have been controlled. A flight attendant brought it back from overseas and didn't follow self-isolation rules (and is now facing jail time).



A total of 861 direct contacts and 1,400 indirect ones were tested and not a single result returned positive for COVID-19, the center elaborated.

Those people had been exposed to patients 1,342, 1,347, 1,348, and 1,349, who were registered on November 29, November 30, and December 1, after Vietnam had spent nearly three months detecting no community transmission.| Patient 1,342 is a Vietnam Airlines flight attendant who flouted quarantine rules to allegedly transmit the virus to patient 1,347, who in turn infected the remainder.

Over 1,000 other people who had their health monitored in relation to these cases were also negative for the virus, the Ho Chi Minh City Center for Disease Control said in the same report.

The city is quarantining 5,436 people either at home, centralized centers, or other accommodations

Local authorities have been beefing up their crackdown on anyone failing to wear face masks in public, with fines reaching VND1-3 million


4 universities have been closed for 2 weeks (one of the positives was a teacher), the wearing of masks has been reinforced, but apart from that, not too much impact day-to-day.

[Baz]

Had a test today. Came back negative.

I’ve no symptoms, was just something to do.

[Spikey M]

:D Nice innit?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did you just want something long and thin down your throat?

[Baz]

Just that I had an email (asking for volunteers olol) through work that a testing site for people without symptoms had opened in town and was advised to get one, so I figured why the hell not. Leaving the house to actually do something was a bonus too.

The army are manning (olol) it at the moment, so it all felt a bit surreal.

[Manc]

Weird bloke.

[Shindig]

Saw my sister for the first time all year and for the first time since she turned positive. Apparently her symptoms were an upset stomach and she only took the test on a hunch.

[Disco]

'Turned positive' makes it sound like she's been living as a cathode up until now.

[Spikey M]

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That's unsettling

[Shindig]

'Turned positive' makes it sound like she's been living as a cathode up until now.

Aye, I probably could've phrased that better. :D She still acts very, very carefully around the rest of us. Still, nice to have a moan about how everyday things are now shitter.

[mo]

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That's unsettling

Whitty's expression alone is unsettling. Like that is the face I would expect to utter the words "And now I'm going to eat your liver.".

[Alex]

He's very much got the look of a man who needs to catch up on quite a lot of sleep. Which I suppose is to be expected in his position at the moment. Poor bastard.

[Shindig]

I say this at every stage but I really, really hope this works out. I don't have much faith in this government (or any British government) doing this kind of thing to scale but my fingers are crossed on this.

[phonics]

I say this at every stage but I really, really hope this works out. I don't have much faith in this government (or any British government) doing this kind of thing to scale but my fingers are crossed on this.

Decades of people ragging on government is exactly what leads to people who got a BCG jab in school thinking that we can’t do things at scale.

[Boydy]

Dunno if you've noticed but the country's changed a bit since we were all 12.

[Lewis]

Your bit hasn't.

[Shindig]

Decades of people ragging on government is exactly what leads to people who got a BCG jab in school thinking that we can’t do things at scale.

I don't know if you've noticed but there's a lot more octogenarians, NHS frontline staff and care home workers than there are 14 year olds. And you can store the BCG anywhere. And it's easier to manufacture. You'd imagine coronavirus restrictions mean an even more staggered rollout than the one we're getting, too.

[Spikey M]

Fuck that. Teach a load of unemployed bods how to stick people with needles and let's get this show on the road.

[Shindig]

Scotland's got plenty already trained.

[Waffdon]

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:lol:

[Spikey M]

FUCK OFF!!!! :roflol:

[SvN]

Oh God, I'm dying :D

[randomlegend]

I spent most of the first covid wave sitting on empty wards eating food donated by the public because hardly anyone was bringing their kids to hospital.

Earned myself a tidy Times Person of the Year award for that.

[Spikey M]

Oh God, I'm dying :D

It might have made this whole year worth it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Time need to stop bottling their person of the year and giving it to concepts. Choose one doctor ffs.

[Shindig]

Have they ever just put a mirror on the front page of that thing?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just had a severe outbreak of anti-vax opinions in the office. It's absolutely fucking rampant. Why do believe want to believe this shit? They are absolutely desperate for vaccination to be a myth or dangerous. Why?

[Kikó]

Wake up sheeple.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Christ, now we've moved onto parents screaming that children should be the first to be vaccinated, and not the last. I'm holding the fort reasonably well but may need supplies and ammunition before the end of the day.

[Ian]

Just had a severe outbreak of anti-vax opinions in the office. It's absolutely fucking rampant. Why do believe want to believe this shit? They are absolutely desperate for vaccination to be a myth or dangerous. Why?

I don't think I know any anti-vaxxers, or they've kept it to themselves. Are these otherwise-reasonable people?

Where does your demented boss stand on the issue?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They are normal people who don't read anything (and I mean anything) ever, and so form their opinions presumably from little snippets of TV/radio, from misguided instinct, or from the ninnies who surround them in their lives.

I think what I take for granted in life is the amount of reading I have done, not even necessarily books but just true information of all kinds on a page or a screen or whatever. That would apply to everyone on this board, too, but for a lot of people it just isn't the case, especially nowadays.

[Offshore Toon]

The figures I've seen suggest 30%-50% won't be taking the vaccine.

[Spikey M]

:harold:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Oh great, now the cure for cancer is being held back because cancer treatments are too lucrative to give up. Please somebody get me through to the lunch break.

[Manc]

Do you ever get whiffs of weed in the office?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I told him that the cancer opinion was idiotic, and he responded as if I was the Earl of Pompous telling the little people to get back in their box. This must be what it's like to support Remain.

[Magic]

I have to put my daughter to school (over and above her general school uniform) in an extra pair of socks and a hoodie because they have the windows wide open. They don't them wear their jackets or gloves either in the class. :facepalm:

[Ian]

We've got a guy who works with us who anytime something related to any conspiracy theory comes up he'll discuss said conspiracy theory and when he's told he's being a mong he'll go "No no no I'm not saying I agree with it, right, but y'know, there are some interesting videos on it I think people should watch before they disregard altogether. Y'know, it makes you think."

Aye alright, mate.

[Spikey M]

I told him that the cancer opinion was idiotic, and he responded as if I was the Earl of Pompous telling the little people to get back in their box. This must be what it's like to support Remain.

I worked with a woman like this. Just lol it off and bring up reptilians.

[-james-]

Has anyone paid to get a private test done? Debating booking one for a couple days before Christmas so that I can go to the gym for a couple of weeks without the risk of killing the in-laws.

[randomlegend]

I had a nurse trying to tell me the other day that "some studies have shown vaccines cause autism, some haven't, I don't think anybody really knows".

Makes you want to punt them out the window.

[Boydy]

Has anyone paid to get a private test done? Debating booking one for a couple days before Christmas so that I can go to the gym for a couple of weeks without the risk of killing the in-laws.

Can't you just go and get one without paying?

[SvN]

Can't you just go and get one without paying?

Technically I think you're meant to be displaying symptoms to get one, but they don't check.

[Boydy]

Technically I think you're meant to be displaying symptoms to get one, but they don't check.

Yeah, that's what I mean. They aren't going to be able to check if you've lost your sense of taste.

[Spikey M]

You just say you have a cough on the website and you're done. Only risk is the turn around time could well be extended over the Xmas period if they have increased demand.

[SvN]

And go to a test centre if you want quicker results. I've done 4 in total, and the 2 by post took forever to get results from.

[Spikey M]

I've had 3 and my daughter has had 1. The postal one was a shambles all round. It got sent to Bristol by accident, sat there for 3 days and turned up on the Saturday so I couldn't do until Monday Morning. Which I didn't bother with because I was already better. :moop:

All 3 trips to a centre had the results with me inside 48 hours.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Had my first ever flu jab. What bad things will I get that I don't already have?

[Magic]

Omg the council area (lol) 2 minutes from my house is back in Tier 2. Time to get smashed! :drool:

In worse news, my college is enforcing masks in class rooms...

[Don]

Tier 2 isn't conducive to piss-ups here owing to the substantial meal rule. I assume your tier 2 is different. Ain't stepped foot in a gaff for 5.5 weeks now. Wallet is laughing, mental state is crying. Jagers and poon is all we seek.

[Magic]

Yes, we're TIER 0 TO TIER 4 which is 5 Tiers, of which Tier 2 is the between your Tier 1 and Tier 2, a sort of mish mash but you are allowed to go on a sesh, as long as you get some food, but must leave by I think 2030? Or 1800? Fuck knows lolz.

[Spikey M]

Nice and simple.

[Yevrah]

Tier 2 is fine as is turns out. Been to two places at 7, had one meal each time and drank to closing on both occassions.

[Magic]

Is that in Scotland or England you mean?

[Spikey M]

Neither, Taiwan obviously. :cab:

[Kikó]

How is Taipai Yev? Is the broom enjoying the humidity?

[Yevrah]

England. Can't speak for Scotland, or Taiwan...

[Jimmy Floyd]

Is that in Scotland or England you mean?

We never mean Scotland.

[Magic]

Ah right, didn't think you could drink. Fucking hell Scotland. :face:

[Magic]

So basically from Level 1-5 you can't drink from Level 3 onwards. WTF.

[Kikó]

I'm going to a pub tonight in Tier 2. Will report back on the pint front.

[Yevrah]

I'm going to a pub tonight in Tier 2. Will report back on the pint front.

Curious to hear your experience. Certainly I haven't seen anything along the lines of 'finish your food and get out'. In fact the second place involved being sat in a window bay and the waitress said once the food was done that she'd leave the salt and pepper on the table in case anyone walked past. Two more rounds were consumed after that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd have thought it would be in most establishments' interest to allow a couple more quiet pints until closing time of an evening, unless there's a clear and present threat of Boris Johnson bursting through the side door backed up by an SAS squadron.

[Yevrah]

Yep, for all the nonsense over Scotch Eggs (I too want one that looks like the pictures I've seen) and other whatabout-ing it seems good old common sense has been applied.

[Giggles]

I’d love a scotch egg.

[Don]

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Smithers...

[Spikey M]

:wub: what a man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Go to about 3:45 in the video...

[Spikey M]

I can't make out what he says.

[Pepe]

Can't hear shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can't make out what he says.

Guy in the background just casually carrying a door.

[Andy]

Tier 2 is fine as is turns out. Been to two places at 7, had one meal each time and drank to closing on both occassions.

Have had the same experience, went out with my wife for a meal and had quite a few after we had eaten.

Also had few outside pints with a couple of mates, they were a bit stricter about food, I think because outside spaces are so much more popular. We ordered one pizza with each round and had a couple of slices each shared around.

Some places now are starting to charge for outside table spaces which is a bit of a piss take.

Holding out hope we will get moved to T1 before the festive period, last seven days we are down to 65 cases per 100k.

[Manc]

Less of this please.

[Lofty]

I had an anti-vaxx taxi driver yesterday morning, which was fun.

[Giggles]

I drove a spot yesterday where someone had parked up a massive lit up sign with NO FORCED VACCINES on it. I wonder did anyone break it to them.

[Giggles]

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[Boydy]

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[Baz]

We've got a guy who works with us who anytime something related to any conspiracy theory comes up he'll discuss said conspiracy theory and when he's told he's being a mong he'll go "No no no I'm not saying I agree with it, right, but y'know, there are some interesting videos on it I think people should watch before they disregard altogether. Y'know, it makes you think."

Aye alright, mate.I’m a bit like that.

[Lewis]

lol out loud at these Sky News cunts breaking the rules they have been constantly fiending for. And she was meant to be going live from a vaccine hub today as well the dickhead. Wor Dominic should get the police involved.

[Kikó]

Curious to hear your experience. Certainly I haven't seen anything along the lines of 'finish your food and get out'. In fact the second place involved being sat in a window bay and the waitress said once the food was done that she'd leave the salt and pepper on the table in case anyone walked past. Two more rounds were consumed after that.

Service was a shambles and we got loads of free booze but definitely no rushing us out the door.

[Lewis]

There are two Apaches circling in London. Operation Blackjack 'Daws' here we go.

[Kikó]

FINALLY THIS IS OUR MOMENT. caps

[John Arne]

I saw in Twitter some UK politicians trying to take credit for this vaccine... How does that work? Isn't a Pfizer a private US company? The fuck has it got to do with Boris and his mates?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They bought it. In a similar vein, I'd like to claim credit for the bowl of porridge I ate this morning. It really made me proud to eat breakfast.

[SvN]

Trump tried to do the same. About the vaccine I mean, not porridge. I suspect he has a Double Sausage & Egg McMuffin every morning.

[Spikey M]

He does have Scottish heritage. Make Porridge Great Again.

[Shindig]

To be fair, all the vaccine trials seem to be centred around Oxford.

[John Arne]

Could Pfizer, if they didn't mind losing money, just share the ingredients and process to everybody to start creating their own vaccine?

[Boydy]

Could Pfizer, if they didn't mind losing money, just share the ingredients and process to everybody to start creating their own vaccine?

That's the problem, isn't it?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Indeed but if you want a state-provided vaccine we'll be waiting until the year 3000, when not much has changed but we live underwater, and I'm in no position to comment on the attractiveness of anyone's great great great grand-daughter.

[Spikey M]

They're all pretty fine.

[Waffdon]

20,000 cases in one day? :lol:

[Shindig]

Yeah, we were doing that before lockdown.

[Spikey M]

Lockdown really didn't do much, did it? It's almost like everyone carried on regardless. :happycry:

[phonics]

Indeed but if you want a state-provided vaccine we'll be waiting until the year 3000

Who do you think gave Pfizer the money to do the research....

[Spikey M]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9039751/London-highest-coronavirus-infection-rate-England-PHE-data-shows.html?ito=native_share_channel-home-preview

Tier 3 incoming. 50% increase in a week here.

[Shindig]

Lockdown really didn't do much, did it? It's almost like everyone carried on regardless. :happycry:

Aye. We had one week of proper decreases but that was right before the lockdown ended.

[Don]

Can you please not link to DM, we can do better.

[Baz]

BeckhamFC9?

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55269381

The Anti-Vaxx mob will love that.

[Spikey M]

One of my old school mates has just been put on a ventilator. :|

[Andy]

Lockdown really didn't do much, did it? It's almost like everyone carried on regardless. :happycry:

I read an article yesterday that its almost a 50/50 split wether areas went up or down post lockdown.

Southampton is down to 70 cases per 100k. No idea how we keep seemimg to avoid the worst of it.

[Magic]

One of my old school mates has just been put on a ventilator. :|

Underlying health conditions etc

[Giggles]

Underlying health conditions etc

Deserved it then. Fingers crossed he dies roaring so you could have a shandy.

[Queenslander]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55269381

The Anti-Vaxx mob will love that.

The couple that I cant avoid get nice and wound up when tell them that I am looking forward to my covid jab.

[Magic]

Deserved it then. Fingers crossed he dies roaring so you could have a shandy.

Can't wait until you die of it x

[Yevrah]

Can anyone with more of a handle on this than I tell me where this reduction would sit on a graph plotting the course we need to take to reverse the mess we're in/heading for?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55261902

[Spikey M]

Can't wait until you die of it x

This is why people enjoy it when your life goes to shit.

[Spikey M]

Can anyone with more of a handle on this than I tell me where this reduction would sit on a graph plotting the course we need to take to reverse the mess we're in/heading for?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55261902

I don't think reversal is an option. Not in the short term anyway. I'm sure I read somewhere that even if we stopped producing any form of pollution it would take decades for the shit already in the atmosphere to drop off.

Edit: this is a nice summary of what they're aiming for.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/can-we-slow-or-even-reverse-global-warming

[Kikó]

Exactly what Spikes said - the emissions are baked in now for the near future, it's just now a case of how bad do we want it to get. Hopefully we see the death of pointless retail consumerism.

[Boydy]

What about your city breaks? :harold:

[Kikó]

What about your mum.

[Boydy]

Her carbon footprint is pretty small.

[Spikey M]

Her carbon footprint is pretty small.

"In the developed world the carbon footprint of a child is roughly 58.6 metric tonnes annually, whereas that of a Malawian child has consistently been estimated between 0.07 and 0.1 metric tonnes annually."

That Bitch has Polar Bear blood on her hands.

[Disco]

Just have Malawian children, problem solved.

[Magic]

Can anyone with more of a handle on this than I tell me where this reduction would sit on a graph plotting the course we need to take to reverse the mess we're in/heading for?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55261902

"In late 2020, China is at least close to having the same level of daily emissions as in 2019, and indeed some of our estimates suggest Chinese emissions may have actually increased for the year as a whole in 2020 relative to 2019, despite the pandemic," he added.

Lolz.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just have Malawian children, problem solved.

Madonna ahead of the game as always.

[randomlegend]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55269381

The Anti-Vaxx mob will love that.

I can't understand why they were doing HIV tests on them

[Spikey M]

I can't understand why they were doing HIV tests on them

I'm assuming they recorded a false positive in an unrelated test and tested others that have had the vaccine because of that?

[Yevrah]

Can you imagine getting that news only for it to be a mistake.

The news on people with allergies being advised not to take it after we rolled it out (due to two nurses reacting badly) stinks of it not having been tested properly. Albeit I've an open mind to that take being brainwrong.

[Yevrah]

I don't think reversal is an option. Not in the short term anyway. I'm sure I read somewhere that even if we stopped producing any form of pollution it would take decades for the shit already in the atmosphere to drop off.

Edit: this is a nice summary of what they're aiming for.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/can-we-slow-or-even-reverse-global-warming

Ok, but all this talk of 2030/next couple of decades being the drop dead date. With the reduction we've seen in 2020 is that enough to put us on course, loads more, or not enough? This bit is crucial for me as if it's the latter then we need to give up trying (lol) now and focus on finding alternative solutions as we're never going to crack it this way.

[Kikó]

Not enough. We're still heading towards 2-3 degree warmth on the current trajectory and emissions.

Our kid with a video:
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[Spikey M]

Ok, but all this talk of 2030/next couple of decades being the drop dead date. With the reduction we've seen in 2020 is that enough to put us on course, loads more, or not enough? This bit is crucial for me as if it's the latter then we need to give up trying (lol) now and focus on finding alternative solutions as we're never going to crack it this way.

All we are doing is slowing the increase. To stop it we would have to give up things that there is literally zero chance of people being willing to do. Consumerism, eating meat, airplanes and international trade being at the forefront along with reforestation on a massive scale.

Climate Change is a done deal as far as I'm concerned. In happier news, we will get off lighter than a lot of (mostly poor and brown) people.

[Kikó]

Climate change is happening, the extent of the change is what is controllable. Consumerism is only a something 100 years old, I don't think it's a done deal that it couldn't change.

China are being bold in their commitments and the one nation that could force it through but then they're also building coal powerplants so lol.

[Kikó]

Oh and an interesting dashboard showing trajectory: https://www.schroders.com/en/lu/professional-investor/featured/climate-change-dashboard/

[Disco]

There's no money to be made in rolling back consumer consumption so it won't happen, we may manage a token reduction of overall emissions but it will be via new technologies rather than anything else. No government putting forward the sort of measures that would make any real difference would ever get elected, we will likely get better at managing the consequences and (as Spikey says) we'll have a front row seat for what happens to all the browner countries and (probably completely fail to) take appropriate action.

[Yevrah]

Maybe I explained this badly....

If the level we've reached due to the reduction in 2020 were to be the level we stay stay at each year hereafter, is that enough to hit the widely discussed 2030 point of no return target?

[Jimmy Floyd]

There's no money to be made in rolling back consumer consumption

Until the point when climate change threatens consumer consumption.

[Kikó]

Maybe I explained this badly....

If the level we've reached due to the reduction in 2020 were to be the level we stay stay at each year hereafter, is that enough to hit the widely discussed 2030 point of no return target?

No. The temperature would continue to rise albeit slower (not taking into account the impact of feedback loops).

[Yevrah]

On business/consumers doing their bit, that there's the will to make this or the demand to actually buy it proves we're utterly fucked on that score:


https://i.postimg.cc/Y972bXxR/IMG-0757-688x445.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Kikó]

Once that's Beyond Meat we'll be fine.

[Disco]

It isn't just the obviously gauche giant meat-pile meals etc, if you look at how things are built and the infrastructure that supports it all it's irrevocably riddled with oil based materials and practices. We're fucked on a scale that eating like Taz's grandma isn't going to solve.

[Yevrah]

I like to think of that Double BigMac as the emblem for all that's wrong with the way we consume.

It's horrific.

[Kikó]

It isn't just the obviously gauche giant meat-pile meals etc, if you look at how things are built and the infrastructure that supports it all it's irrevocably riddled with oil based materials and practices. We're fucked on a scale that eating like Taz's grandma isn't going to solve.

In the UK, construction accounts for 12% of all greenhouse emissions (with buildings and construction accounting for 36% of total global energy use). Massive impact.

[randomlegend]

Can you climate nonces stick to your own thread.

[Baz]

I can't understand why they were doing HIV tests on themThere was a famous (in my work anyway) case of an undiagnosed HIV patient who was really poorly and they couldn’t figure it out, despite numerous COVID tests confirming he was negative. Somewhere along they way they decided to test him for HIV, among a lot of other things, and it was positive, and his CD4 count was like 200 or something as equally low. He died. Now I presume a lot of COVID patients also get tested for HIV, cos a lot of the symptoms are the same, and presumably also those testing the vaccine do too.

[Don]

Heard my grandma was talked about. Will you melts get over climate change already, fucking hell, I'd rather hear about the social barriers that prevent entry of blacks into eskimo communities.

[Disco]

It was a compliment if anything.

[Don]

Yeah I got that, props to ya for it, I enjoyed it. It's the discussion as a whole that's poison.

[Foe]

Please keep using oil based products, thanks.

[Shindig]

The news on people with allergies being advised not to take it after we rolled it out (due to two nurses reacting badly) stinks of it not having been tested properly. Albeit I've an open mind to that take being brainwrong.

It's probably what happens when you're using a voluntary force for testing. To get this done quickly, they've got quantity rather than quality. In a sense, this rollout is still part of the trial.

[Alex]

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:D

It's things like this hammer home how utterly pointless it is comparing our handling of the pandemic to the success the Chinese have in managing it.

[Yevrah]

It's probably what happens when you're using a voluntary force for testing. To get this done quickly, they've got quantity rather than quality. In a sense, this rollout is still part of the trial.

If that's the case then how has it been tested properly or not 'rushed through'?

[Shindig]

I dunno. They must ask for allergies when people sign up. Maybe the combination in the jab triggers a response but doesn't actually contain eggs / nuts and other mad food allergy things.

[Spikey M]

Southend Council have decided all school kids and their families need testing before the Great Christmas Vulnerablity Cull of 2020, so I've spent my morning testing my own gag reflex and bribing my children with chocolate for breakfast to let me stack a swab up their noses. :moop:

[randomlegend]

There's an ingredient called polyethylene glycol in both the vaccines. Allergy to it is very rare and it's in lots of medications (and other things) so people who are allergic to it often think are allergic to something else (for example they may think they are allergic to the medication which caused their initial reaction, when actually they are allergic to PEG).

That's why they are being cautious about anyone with a history of a severe allergic reaction.

[Boydy]

New covid just dropped
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55308211

[Spikey M]

Tier 3. :happycry:

[Manc]

Has the Hot Tub been secured? It may be too late.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm back to being tier 2 on one side of the bridge and tier 3 on the other. Luckily I live and work in tier 2 so big up Surrey and fuck the wide boys from London, Kent and Essex.

Big up. Has anyone said that since 2002?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Previously Herts was combined as a whole and despite being in one of the best areas (North Herts with a rate of 88.6) across the country we were put into tier 2 because of shit holes like Broxbourne.

Thankfully this time they've isolated the shitholes which are moving into tier 3 whilst we stay in tier 2.

[Lewis]

I went to London last week for a day out. Timing. :cool:

[Don]

Tier 3 means fuck all given retail and gyms are unaffected.

[-james-]

Imagine trying to enforce lockdown on Londoners. No way I'd be staying indoors if I was paying a grand a month for a manky Wood Green box flat just to taste that sweet city life for a few years.

[Lewis]

Chances are that guy would be a massive fanny who thinks the restrictions don't go far enough.

[Kikó]

Imagine trying to enforce lockdown on Londoners. No way I'd be staying indoors if I was paying a grand a month for a manky Wood Green box flat just to taste that sweet city life for a few years.

You live pretty close to me. Imagine the scenes when we have an informal pint with taz over a scotch egg.

[Baz]

I see they’re shutting schools early in London. Just in London though. That’ll do loads.

[Lewis]

More like Taz seething through the window because they wouldn't let him bring his bum bag full of birdseed to the substantial meal table.

[Shindig]

He should be alright if they sell nuts.

[Don]

I have no clue what's going on, I thought James was based in Scotland. And I don't know if these are barbs or bouquets being aimed at me.

I'll tell you something though, I went to Liverpool for the weekend with the gally and ya, substantial meal rule is easily enough swerved but the atmosphere has taken a brutal knock, even watching Liv game, people seem to have taken the muzzles a bit too literally.

[Spikey M]

You went to Liverpool to watch the football in a socially distanced pub over a basket of Halloumi fries? :happycry:

[Don]

Your edit did not improve the quality nor accuracy of that post.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You went to Liverpool to watch the football in a socially distanced pub over a basket of Halloumi fries? :happycry:

He was eating sunflower seeds, cretin.

[Raoul Duke]

The Dutch have gone bananas and banned everything after their previous tactic (ignoring everything and pretending) didn't work. I've come to the conclusion that this place is basically America but with weed instead of AK-47s.

[Disco]

It's Germany with weed.

[Raoul Duke]

Nah, the Germans do what they're told. The Dutch just don't give a fuck

[Spikey M]

One of my wife's colleagues has tested positive and given a list of all her colleagues names to test and trace. Text message received. RIP Christmas.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I reckon I'm going to be made to self-isolate over Christmas. It's been going around the workplace, I've managed to completely avoid it all year so far (unless I've had it with 0 symptoms) despite having come into the office every day since it started, so it's inevitable that I'm going to end up supping tap water alone after some cunt comes down with it on 23 December.

[Baz]

One of my wife's colleagues has tested positive and given a list of all her colleagues names to test and trace. Text message received. RIP Christmas.

10 days isolation now though innit? She’s just scraped in for the Christmas cut off.

[Spikey M]

10 days isolation now though innit? She’s just scraped in for the Christmas cut off.

Yeah, 10 days from last contact which was Saturday. Unless she gets symptoms, which is highly likely considering there is fuck all social distancing going on there.

[Boydy]

Will that not mean you won't have to put up with your annoying in-laws? Is that not good?

[Queenslander]

I guess autism doesnt work after all.


Sweden has recorded its deadliest November since the Spanish Flu outbreak in 1918


https://www.sbs.com.au/news/sweden-has-recorded-its-deadliest-november-since-the-spanish-flu-outbreak-in-1918

[Magic]

Guess that's bullshit, from the same article:

However, the number of dead in November 1918 - 16,600 - was double last month's toll, and the country's population then was roughly half of what it is today.

The number of dead in November 2020 was also 77.9 per 100,000 inhabitants, lower than 79.2 in November 2010.

:harold:

[Queenslander]

Just read the headline. :drool:

[Spikey M]

Will that not mean you won't have to put up with your annoying in-laws? Is that not good?

It's only my Sister in Law that's annoying and we're not seeing her anyway, but even if we were I'm not sure having Covid is a worthwhile cost for the reward.

[Don]

Guess that's bullshit, from the same article:

However, the number of dead in November 1918 - 16,600 - was double last month's toll, and the country's population then was roughly half of what it is today.

The number of dead in November 2020 was also 77.9 per 100,000 inhabitants, lower than 79.2 in November 2010.

:harold:

Unbelievable to run an article on that headline really. Fucking open the clubs.

[Spikey M]

Guess that's bullshit, from the same article:

However, the number of dead in November 1918 - 16,600 - was double last month's toll, and the country's population then was roughly half of what it is today.

The number of dead in November 2020 was also 77.9 per 100,000 inhabitants, lower than 79.2 in November 2010.

:harold:

:cab: what the fuck? If they're going to do that they should atleast have gone with "18 times more dealy than 1918"

[Magic]

Dundee City Corona deaths 2020: 143

Dundee City Heroine deaths 2019: 443

:harold:

[SvN]

I hope she's been caught.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I thought those numbers must be bollocks but no, it's absolutely mental:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpRdK3XXYAANhUk?format=png&name=4096x4096

Clear weather trend on that graph as well.

[Spikey M]

I wonder where the UK would sit with Scotland removed. The rest of us must be around Spain's level. Or is that meant to be read as 'the rest of the UK' already?

[Magic]

Political virus. Boris using it to make BREXIT look nowhere as near as bad as it should, her using it as an excuse to push Independence and hide drug/education/alcohol failures, pathetic. Fucking cunts the lot of them.

[randomlegend]

Yes, the whole world has agreed to pretend the virus is bad to advance the UKs political agenda.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I wonder where the UK would sit with Scotland removed.

In a massage chair made of solid fucking gold.

[Spikey M]

Another 2 positives at my wife's work. :face:

The managers have had to limit their WhatsApp group so that only admin can post because people are losing their shit that they intend to stay open. :drool:

[Don]

You can do that to Whatsapp groups? :drool:

[Magic]

Yes, the whole world has agreed to pretend the virus is bad to advance the UKs political agenda.

Didn't say that, but it's clearly being taken advantage of.

[Kikó]

Political virus. Boris using it to make BREXIT look nowhere as near as bad as it should, her using it as an excuse to push Independence and hide drug/education/alcohol failures, pathetic. Fucking cunts the lot of them.

You've lost the plot.

[Spikey M]

"If we kill the economy before January they can't blame Brexit"

But they'll still blame us for ruining the economy and killing thous...

"THEY CAN'T BLAME BREXIT"

[mugbull]

Magic will be off to QAnon within a year

[Spikey M]

Covid has not been kind to him.

[Magic]

Watch it now, they will cancel the Christmas window thing, everyone will do what they want, massive spike, blame the public for breaking rules, lockdown for a month, economy ruined, BREXIT.

[Yevrah]

They're not going to be cancelling anything for the Christmas widow. The continual reports in the news of what a bad idea it is is merely yet more manipulation to convince the public to behave.

[Alex]

They're not going to be cancelling anything for the Christmas widow. The continual reports in the news of what a bad idea it is is merely yet more manipulation to convince the public to behave.

I've noticed this. I don't think, since the rules on households being allowed to mix at Christmas were announced, a single day has gone by where the BBC hasn't dedicated at least one of the top slots on it's news homepage to a story that effectively puts forward the counter-point that we still shouldn't see anyone and "you'll kill you Nan if you do", or something similarly doom and gloom. They really ought to wind their neck in.

[Yevrah]

Indeed. At this point it's clearly an organised effort by the Beeb and the government and has been for months.

[Boydy]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/15/uk-rules-for-christmas-could-be-reviewed-as-coronavirus-cases-surge?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

It looks like there might be some movement on it.

[Alex]

Indeed. At this point it's clearly an organised effort by the Beeb and the government and has been for months.

They had one yesterday (I believe) about some 21 year old self-confessed Christmas junkie not going home from university for Christmas because it's "not worth the risk" and "I still want my Gran to be alive next year!". It read like bad satire.

[Yevrah]

Germany's Christmas lockdown being reported as a HARD LOCKDOWN is also fucking lol, it includes this FFS:


but there will be a slight easing over Christmas when one household will be able to host a maximum of four close family members.

[Don]

Similarly, the quotes and articles say one thing but it doesn't half seem like this Brexit 'deal' will be agreed by both sides.

[Jimmy Floyd]

There has been some absolute trash on the BBC website on this whole Christmas matter. Take this article, headlined 'Germany to go into lockdown over Christmas', and beginning 'Germany is to go into a hard lockdown over Christmas...' : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55292614

When you actually read it, their restrictions turn out to be:


A maximum of five people from no more than two households are allowed to gather in a home. But this will be relaxed from 24 to 26 December when one household will be able to invite a maximum of four close family members from other households.

So their rules under a HARD LOCKDOWN are actually more lax than ours are even now, but it's being portrayed as something stricter than what we have.

I've long been saying that BBC standards have gone to shit since they moved to Salford and are recruiting from a north west 'talent' pool rather than the far superior southern one, but you're not allowed to say that so I'll instead agree with whatever conspiracy theory is being put forward.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Germany's Christmas lockdown being reported as a HARD LOCKDOWN is also fucking lol, it includes this FFS:

lol, snap.

[Spikey M]

Has anyone seen the news about Germany?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They had one yesterday (I believe) about some 21 year old self-confessed Christmas junkie not going home from university for Christmas because it's "not worth the risk" and "I still want my Gran to be alive next year!". It read like bad satire.
It was yesterday, I had a good chuckle at that.

[Giggles]

One of my wife's colleagues has tested positive and given a list of all her colleagues names to test and trace. Text message received. RIP Christmas.

Can she not just get a test?

[Spikey M]

Can she not just get a test?

Apparently not. You just have to lump it.

[Giggles]

Apparently not. You just have to lump it.

Strange. That’s the first thing done here after you’re listed as a contact to a case. Straight to the drive through test.

[Giggles]

The tinfoil is back.


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[Waffdon]

Dundee City Corona deaths 2020: 143

Dundee City Heroine deaths 2019: 443

:harold:

It was 72 deaths for all drugs in Dundee last year I’m fairly sure. No idea where you plucked that number from

[Spikey M]

People that died within 28 days of a positive Heroin test.

[Boydy]

Magic pretending he gives a shit about heroin addicts dying is the same as people who say "we need to look after our own" in response to refugees but who don't give a fuck about the homeless or starving schoolchildren.

[Giggles]

Magic isn’t the best example though, having zero redeeming features as a human and all.

[Kikó]

So their rules under a HARD LOCKDOWN are actually more lax than ours are even now, but it's being portrayed as something stricter than what we have.

I've long been saying that BBC standards have gone to shit since they moved to Salford and are recruiting from a north west 'talent' pool rather than the far superior southern one, but you're not allowed to say that so I'll instead agree with whatever conspiracy theory is being put forward.

It's the devastating impact of Tory imposition which has caused the death of the once proud BBC.

[Magic]

It was 72 deaths for all drugs in Dundee last year I’m fairly sure. No idea where you plucked that number from

The Courier.

[Lewis]

You say 'homeless or starving schoolchildren', I say people doing their utmost to protect Our DWP.

[Waffdon]

The Courier.

You read the wrong bit you mong

[Kikó]

What is causing the deaths?
The figures, usually published around July, were delayed due to a backlog of toxicology results and the Covid-19 pandemic.

They show deaths in Dundee have tripled since 2013 and have risen from 66 to 72 between 2018 and 2019.

In Fife they jumped from 64 to 81.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/1815790/only-getting-worse-fears-dundee-and-scottish-drug-deaths-are-out-of-control/

[Spikey M]

More people have died from Heroin overdoses in Dundee than the 1918 pandemic. :(

[Giggles]

More people have died from Heroin overdoses in Dundee than the 1918 pandemic. :(

And the Holocaust.

[Kikó]

And from the hands of Pol Pot.

[Shindig]

Dundee must defend itself against the threat of the Red Menace.

[Queenslander]

NSW at it again.


NSW airport van driver tests positive

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-16/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-latest-testing-kit/12987170?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf241120128&utm_campaign=fb_abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf241120128=1



NSW Health has confirmed two new cases of COVID-19 on Sydney's Northern Beaches.

The source of the infections is under investigation. No links to other known cases have been identified.

The infected people are a woman in her 60s and a man in his 70s who are close contacts of each other.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-16/two-new-covid-19-cases-in-nsw/12991234

[Jimmy Floyd]

This Christmas dithering is great. My sister's meant to be coming from Scotland, if Sturgeon unilaterally bans her from doing so then I will spend 5 days sat around miserable boomer parents banned from seeing their daughter and will also have to peel all the fucking vegetables that no one will enjoy anyway.

[Magic]

Told you it would change. :drool:

"3rd wave"

[Yevrah]

The BBC headline literally says 'UK Christmas rules unlikely to change'.

[Spikey M]

What has changed? The BBC are leading with "unlikely to change" and we in no way left the second wave for this to be the third.

[Magic]

BRITISH broadcasting corporation, hates Scotland loves paedophiles and Tories.

Last time I checked etc

Daily Record, a fine SCOTTISH print, is leading with her changing today. :drool:

[Spikey M]

How does Scotland changing their mind tally with Boris doing it because of Brexit? Get your conspiracy in order you Hypertard.

[Magic]

She's going to use it to strengthen independence, because anything she does contrary to him is seen as a + for Scotland.

Anyone who breaks the rules (loads) will be made out to be Teddy Bears and Toom Tabards, further deepening the ever-growing nationalist divide.

[Kikó]

Have you been on the heroin ?

[Raoul Duke]

Pretty interesting to see someone go full red-pill/radicalisation in real-time. Can't before long before he's full Q mental.

[phonics]

A divorced dad who spends an inordinate amount of time telling people how much better he’s doing now, radicalising himself through YouTube. Just a walking cliche.

[Lewis]

I might drive up tae Scotland just to insist on my right to do so.

[Magic]

A divorced dad who spends an inordinate amount of time telling people how much better he’s doing now, radicalising himself through YouTube. Just a walking cliche.

https://loveincorporated.blob.core.windows.net/contentimages/gallery/3fd2c2e3-418b-4f87-9262-2dfaba687497-east%20hamptons%20exterior.jpg

[phonics]

https://i.imgur.com/o3ZKXib.png

[Magic]

Right, this is the most tragic to and forth on the forums.

[Spikey M]

Magic wins for atleast having some self awareness.

[randomlegend]

I'm consenting and prescribing for covid vaccines today. It's amazing how quickly it's all been set up and how well it's running. Makes you realise how much dithering and bollocks clogs everything up in normal times.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We've already vaccinated (or done the first shot at least) for 137,000 people according to Mr Zahawi, which sounded quite impressive to me although Twitter screamed with fury that it should have been 800 gazillion by now.