Coronavirus Death Thread

[Manc]

Did Peston attend a TED talk on the impact of speech? He sounds like a very morbid Christopher Walken. Impossible to follow.

[Magic]

"modelling".

:harold:

[7om]

Whitty dropping the hammer that eventually we are going to be lumping covid in with flu and pneumonia.

Magic 1-0 Zero Covids

[Magic]

Oh look science is back in the doldrums where it belongs.

Hope they enjoyed their very small period of relevance.

Clubs open.

[7om]

Oh look science is back in the doldrums where it belongs.

Hope they enjoyed their very small period of relevance.

Clubs open.

:D

It’ll be “the science” that vaccinates the entire country and allows you back in the clubs.

[Spikey M]

When was the last time a Journalist asked a good question at one of these?

[Magic]

:D

It’ll be “the science” that vaccinates the entire country and allows you back in the clubs.

Well they could have easily done that without appearing on GMB every 5 minutes with their wallpaper bookshelf background, cunts.

Also nobody will care about DOCTOR DEATH or moaning teachers anymore and we will parody the clapping on low tier comedy on the BBC for years to come. :drool:

[Magic]

Pay cuts for whinging frontline workers (aka workers) to pay for the debt? Yes please.

[Boydy]

Well they could have easily done that without appearing on GMB every 5 minutes with their wallpaper bookshelf background, cunts.

Also nobody will care about DOCTOR DEATH or moaning teachers anymore and we will parody the clapping on low tier comedy on the BBC for years to come. :drool:

Just because you don't own any books.

[phonics]

Can someone explain to me how this whole anti vaccine concept got so big? Can I get a sweeping floyd theory?

Is it that ‘big pharma’ has been so obviously for profit that now when they’re actually needed there’s an assumption of an alternate goal?

I just don’t see how you can grow up and look at small pox and poleo and think ‘vaccines aren’t real’. It just doesn’t compute.

Is it just another thing like the Brexit vote? People are given such little empowerment that anyway they can lash back at the institutional status quo they will?

[Magic]

Small pox and polio were actually dangerous to normal human beings lol.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Wakefield had a massive effect. Besides that, I can't think of anything beyond the idea that people don't like the idea of getting injected with stuff, so will find whatever bullshit they can to justify that position.

[7om]

Can someone explain to me how this whole anti vaccine concept got so big? Can I get a sweeping floyd theory?

Is it that ‘big pharma’ has been so obviously for profit that now when they’re actually needed there’s an assumption of an alternate goal?

I just don’t see how you can grow up and look at small pox and poleo and think ‘vaccines aren’t real’. It just doesn’t compute.

Is it just another thing like the Brexit vote? People are given such little empowerment that anyway they can lash back at the institutional status quo they will?

Because a good, juicy conspiracy theory that involves microchips, poisons and population control is far more interesting than your average Facebook mom’s life where she’s bored at home, postnatally depressed and her husband is cheating on her.

[Magic]

Because a good, juicy conspiracy theory that involves microchips, poisons and population control is far more interesting than your average Facebook mom’s life where she’s bored at home, postnatally depressed and her husband is cheating on her.

Again no middle ground. How about the fact that it's not dangerous to most people?

[7om]

Again no middle ground. How about the fact that it's not dangerous to most people?

Phonics was asking why people are anti-vaccine, not specifically covid.

[niko_cee]

Can someone explain to me how this whole anti vaccine concept got so big? Can I get a sweeping floyd theory?

Is it that ‘big pharma’ has been so obviously for profit that now when they’re actually needed there’s an assumption of an alternate goal?

I just don’t see how you can grow up and look at small pox and poleo and think ‘vaccines aren’t real’. It just doesn’t compute.

Is it just another thing like the Brexit vote? People are given such little empowerment that anyway they can lash back at the institutional status quo they will?

It's fascinating, and, to me, is more of a belief system that a specific belief, if that makes sense. I remember finding out someone I knew reasonably well and drank with in the pub most weeks was an ardent anti-vaxxer. It really took me aback as, although he wasn't a particularly well educated chap, he was bright enough to have done very well for himself in a reasonably professional field and not at all a conventional nitwit [I know a good few conventional nitwits who are anti-vax]. He was big into believing everything was a big pharma conspiracy so I think it has its root there (there was absolutely no reasoning with him which is why, to me, it is more akin to religious belief than anything). I reckon that seed of conspiracy has been taken up in recent years by the various 'go back to the stone age' movements [paleo diet, I dunno, there must be others], that usually, somewhat without a sense of irony, exploit 21st century communication networks to propagate themselves - and this falls in with that. Modern age bad, the way things were good. In turn, those sort of beliefs in various other fields have become quite fashionable, and so the vicious circle of 21st century disinformation and influencing has brought about this modern age of anti-vax madness.

[niko_cee]

And of course Wakefield and the rise of autism as a thing with a name and such [rather than those people just being seen as a bit weird/socially awkward in the past].

[Jimmy Floyd]

Future historians will pin most postmodern madnesses on the decline of traditional religion and consequent screaming spiritual void, imo.

There are little Jonestowns that pop up everywhere.

[Spikey M]

I think pretty much every explanation offered is part of the AntiVaxx pie but Niko has smashed it out the park.

It's new age, Keto, Crystal Therapy bollocks gone mainstream and rocket propelled by an ever growing (and understandable) distrust in governments / powerful people.

[Yevrah]

I think it's part of the Russians/Chinese internet assault on Western society too. Such low hanging fruit to go at.

[Jimmy Floyd]

On the subject of MHRA playing a blinder, why on earth has God's United States of America not approved Oxford/AZ yet?

[7om]

On the subject of MHRA playing a blinder, why on earth has God's United States of America not approved Oxford/AZ yet?

Because they’re still shitting their pants about the low dose / standard dose error. It was silly, but real world data will trump it. They’ll approve it eventually.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Do they not ever lift their eyes beyond the corn fields of Iowa or wherever their offices are? We've injected 6-8 million people with it.

[phonics]

Massively disagree with the 'downfall of religion' and 'its the russians/chinese fault' but apart from that, interesting contribution outside of Magic missing the point and getting angry about it (what's new).

[7om]

Do they not ever lift their eyes beyond the corn fields of Iowa or wherever their offices are? We've injected 6-8 million people with it.

American exceptionalism is real, god bless them.

[phonics]

On the subject of MHRA playing a blinder, why on earth has God's United States of America not approved Oxford/AZ yet?

The real answer to this is that they're forcing this to go through the full approval process because they want Pfizer to sell as many ditribution contracts to States/Hospitals/Insurance Co's. as they can before they have to put it to market. Whenever you have a question about why something in American healthcare is absurd, follow the money. All the regulatory services there have been gutted to the point their existence is only to block unwanted competition.

[Kikó]

Qanon is a major, well organized psychological operation run by people like general Flynn. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_6026e076c5b680717ee79b5c/amp

It's basically mass brain washing. There's a really good medium article about the gaming of it all. https://medium.com/curiouserinstitute/a-game-designers-analysis-of-qanon-580972548be5?fbclid=IwAR3x42MXIbL4nqPTHZBGjeET44z7 UzH8l7KMWUNew96BrJOct3xJmrTyr60

[Jimmy Floyd]

Qanon is a religion in all but name. Scientology or whatever would be a halfway house between it and more traditional religions.

People need to believe in something / belong to something, this is also how terrorist groups the world over recruit kids.

[Lewis]

There are more people reporting on/studying QAnon than actually believe it.

[Kikó]

That's not true either.

[Lewis]

There have been a few polls about it this week. It has favourability of about five per cent (almost the lizardman's constant - and twice as high amongst black people on one of them), and as many people haven't heard of it as have an unfavourable opinion.

[Dquincy]

Wakefield had a massive effect. Besides that, I can't think of anything beyond the idea that people don't like the idea of getting injected with stuff, so will find whatever bullshit they can to justify that position.
Do you not think it's reasonable for people to have reservations about the MRNA vaccination considering it's very recent history, lack of stage 3 clinical trials and unknown long term side effects?

All of the above I think are minimal risks, but I can see how some people may have reservations.

There are also other people who claim society shouldn't be such fat unhealthy bastards, which would help combat the virus. I can see this viewpoint as well, but it's unrealistic.

[7om]

It’s okay quincy, we know you’re the skeptic. You can stop pretending now.

[Kikó]

Init. It's pretty obvious you've made your mind up due to Linda on Facebook.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Do you not think it's reasonable for people to have reservations about the MRNA vaccination considering it's very recent history, lack of stage 3 clinical trials and unknown long term side effects?

Possibly to a very small extent, but they should have more reservations about they or loved ones (god what an awful phrase that is) catching Covid, and so on the balance of risks, there is no excuse for anyone not to take the vaccine.

[Dquincy]

Agreed. The risk of serious illness from covid is surely higher (and even that risk is extremely low).

[Spikey M]

Do you not think it's reasonable for people to have reservations about the MRNA vaccination considering it's very recent history, lack of stage 3 clinical trials and unknown long term side effects?

All of the above I think are minimal risks, but I can see how some people may have reservations.

There are also other people who claim society shouldn't be such fat unhealthy bastards, which would help combat the virus. I can see this viewpoint as well, but it's unrealistic.

See my previous response with regards to risk aversion for my answer.

Is concern fair? Yes. Is it over-blown and being applied in a way that it isn't to absolutely anything else? Also yes.

[Don]

Lads, stfu and just keep this thread to events listings as and when they get announced, please.

I won't be looking for anything specific for the first week beyond absolute run-of-the-mill be@one and gay club experiences but after that, I'm going to have to be more selective. Imagine thinking my A/L may go to waste this year. Tears in my eyes.

[Dquincy]

It’s okay quincy, we know you’re the skeptic. You can stop pretending now.


Init. It's pretty obvious you've made your mind up due to Linda on Facebook.

If only I was on Facebook.

[randomlegend]

Anti-vax is a big thing because there are a lot of really stupid, easily led people who get to feel clever by "knowing" something the majority don't.

[Spikey M]

Tell us about ITK Reddit again

[randomlegend]

:D

[Kikó]

Johnson brothers inbound according to Romano.

[Don]

Apparently the restaurants are opening up on the second day of the great Muzzy fast :drool:

[Queenslander]

People are now pushing back against getting their kids the HPV jab.

I standing by my claim that Australia has the most anti-vax people per capita.

https://www.facebook.com/217333648374725/posts/3782588948515826/

[Spikey M]

Apparently the restaurants are opening up on the second day of the great Muzzy fast :drool:

:lol:

[Shindig]

A banger of a file photo the BBC have used on their article.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/14CD4/production/_117140258_lockdownbasketball.jpg

I hope you got paid for that, Phonics.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Guardian editorial here. Not some silly columnist - the editorial.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu3D1LfXYAAGy5R?format=jpg&name=large

RIP the British left once again. See you in ten years.

[Don]

Jesus. Surely even the science must suggest zero COVID is essentially impossible now.

[Yevrah]

"the apparent early success"

They're absolutely gutted we've nailed this, absolutely gutted.

[Yevrah]

Jesus. Surely even the science must suggest zero COVID is essentially impossible now.

It wouldn't even be worth pursuing if it was. We've had 11 months of this now, which will be at least 15 by the time it's over. It's time to shift the focus from those who were vulnerable to the disease to those who've had to give up a lot to protect them.

How in the fuck, for example, can a left leaning paper be comfortable with the idea of kids missing even more actual school? It's madness. Absolute madness.

[Boydy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ5LU-dXYAAbqZd.jpg

[Yevrah]

It's not even liberal, which is exactly the problem with it.

[phonics]

The Guardian piece is laughable. Quincy becoming an expert on what the stage 3 trial of an MRNA vaccine involves is also laughable. I hate everyone.

[Spikey M]

The Guardian is as bad as the Daily Mail. None of it's news, they're just there to confirm what their research says their readers already believe.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd expect floppy bullshit from the Guardian, that's their usual role in life, but in that editorial they've moved far beyond that essentially to become the anti-vax journal of record. Worse, they are too cowardly to set out what 'Zero-Covid? Yes, Prime Minister' would actually involve (six to nine months of pointlessly waiting in lockdown for cases to hit the hundreds while nobody dies).

It's straight dishonesty.

[Dquincy]

The Guardian piece is laughable. Quincy becoming an expert on what the stage 3 trial of an MRNA vaccine involves is also laughable. I hate everyone.

Are you OK? I'm here for you.

[Shindig]

The one thing I'll say is this disease is still a moving goalpost. If that mutates in a direction we're not prepared for, we're not done.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What's it going to do, grow horns?

[Magic]

The one thing I'll say is this disease is still a moving goalpost. If that mutates in a direction we're not prepared for, we're not done.

Cheers Moinbot.

[Shindig]

I was thinking more about becoming more deadlier to younger people or could become resistant to treatment.

[Magic]

How about you just focus on processing spreadsheets instead of worrying about absolute fantasy?

[SvN]

Someone go and find all of the posts from August where Magic was mocking the "so called second wave" that hadn't happened.

[Magic]

Someone go and find all of the posts from August where Magic was mocking the "so called second wave" that hadn't happened.

It didn't happen in the way everyone was saying aka Easter, BLM etc.

[Kikó]

What's it going to do, grow horns?

I mean there is a risk it mutates and becomes deadlier (but then it's less effective as a 'virus' as it kills the host) or it becomes more virulent (which likely means fewer deaths). I don't think we need to stop all return to normality for it though.

[Spikey M]

It's pointless even thinking about it. It might happen. It might not. Open the pubs.

[Luke Emia]

Was listening to the radio this morning & someone was moaning about how things are opening up too fast and we need to aim for zero Covid. How long do people think that will take? For zero Covid I reckon you'd have to close down everything but food shops & even then you'd be looking at 9-10 months. The only time zero Covid was reachable is if you closed down quickly initially like New Zealand(are they going to stay closed off forever?) at this point for somewhere like the UK it's a fantasy.

[Magic]

I mean there is a risk it mutates and becomes deadlier (but then it's less effective as a 'virus' as it kills the host) or it becomes more virulent (which likely means fewer deaths). I don't think we need to stop all return to normality for it though.

Why *on earth* are you contemplating this? Get a life!

[Ian]

Sad!

[Spikey M]

:D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Was listening to the radio this morning & someone was moaning about how things are opening up too fast and we need to aim for zero Covid. How long do people think that will take? For zero Covid I reckon you'd have to close down everything but food shops & even then you'd be looking at 9-10 months. The only time zero Covid was reachable is if you closed down quickly initially like New Zealand(are they going to stay closed off forever?) at this point for somewhere like the UK it's a fantasy.

These people NEVER cite what would be required to achieve zero/very low covid.

The truth is of course that in order to sustain an endless lockdown you would need to bring in things like UBI, bail out enormous sectors of the economy ad infinitum, institute loads of state control over personal freedom and pretty much everything else, which is of course what the authoritarian end of British socialism (a fringe group in the general public, but very strong/dominant in academia) actually desires, so it's opportunism. But they can't say that in public because people will stop taking them seriously, so they have to hide behind 'the science'.

[Lewis]

See also: net zero/zero carbon. I think a more straight-forward explanation is that most modern left-wing thought sees 'the economy' and other aspects of normal life in the abstract, so, rather than trying to bring in communism by stealth, they offer an indefinite furlough scheme and wonder what more do people want. The right is a bit similar in how they have pushed lockdown vs the economy, as if there would have been no downturn[s] under Sweden-like circumstances, but residual conservatism gropes towards the meaningful stuff occasionally.

[Magic]

Kiko's marriage is dooming him.

[Spikey M]

Weird post.

[Offshore Toon]

What happened to Magic? I'm pretty sure I stopped posting for a while (2016/2017ish) then came back and he was seen as a 'top' poster, but now he comes across as fully braindead. Anybody (@Lewis) have a timeline of events to help explain?

[Waffdon]

His missus cheated on him and he went full blown ‘she’s taking the kids from me’.

[Lewis]

He's liberated. He sees it how it really is.

[Offshore Toon]

I thought he was a 'top' poster during the divorce as well? Although all I really remember is him posting his wage every month and wanking on, I think, plant pots.

[Magic]

Covid has destroyed me, lads. My best years taken from me.

[7om]

Magic is woke. We're just not on his level.

[Don]

Bojo's birthday is 19 June, the sly dog.

[randomlegend]

I mean there is a risk it mutates and becomes deadlier (but then it's less effective as a 'virus' as it kills the host) or it becomes more virulent (which likely means fewer deaths). I don't think we need to stop all return to normality for it though.


More virulent means it makes you more ill. Virulence refers to the severity of illness the virus causes in the host (it doesn't refer to how transmissible it is). Politicians have been constantly using this word wrongly.

[randomlegend]

Also I was reading about the "more deadly = less successful, evolution favours mutations which cause virus' to be less deadly" thing the other day as that's also what I believed.

Apparently it's really not true or at least nowhere near that straightforward.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Spanish flu came back with a deadlier second variant didn't it? Albeit not one which would have been able to evade modern vaccines.

I think a lot of people are severely underestimating just how great these vaccines are. By far the most important aspect of public policy over the next six months is to try and coerce literally everyone 18+ into taking them. It needs to be made shameful to refuse the vaccine.

[randomlegend]

Doesn't matter when you're trying to convince people like Magic who have no shame.

[Baz]

Bojo's birthday is 19 June, the sly dog.

Same as The Reid

[Magic]

Also I was reading about the "more deadly = less successful, evolution favours mutations which cause virus' to be less deadly" thing the other day as that's also what I believed.

Apparently it's really not true or at least nowhere near that straightforward.


Doesn't matter when you're trying to convince people like Magic who have no shame.

:henn0rz:

[Kikó]

More virulent means it makes you more ill. Virulence refers to the severity of illness the virus causes in the host (it doesn't refer to how transmissible it is). Politicians have been constantly using this word wrongly.

I stand corrected!

[Magic]

Oh my God we're in fucking total lockdown until May.

[randomlegend]

:henn0rz:

I've no idea what you're trying to get at. That I should be ashamed because I changed my understanding on the basis of new/better evidence?

[Magic]

You've no idea about a lot of things, Dr Paed.

[Spikey M]

Also I was reading about the "more deadly = less successful, evolution favours mutations which cause virus' to be less deadly" thing the other day as that's also what I believed.

Apparently it's really not true or at least nowhere near that straightforward.

Presumably this would apply alot more strongly to something that fucks you up within 24 hours or so? Or is only contagious during the worst of it? Covid taking 4 weeks to kill, with you being contagious for most of it, would make it unlikely in this case, right?

[randomlegend]

You've no idea about a lot of things, Dr Paed.

Yes...I know.

[SvN]

You need to spend more time on Facebook learning from the truthtellers, RL.

[Magic]

Presumably this would apply alot more strongly to something that fucks you up within 24 hours or so? Or is only contagious during the worst of it? Covid taking 4 weeks to kill, with you being contagious for most of it, would make it unlikely in this case, right?

Why are you asking him? Let's ask the real doctor here.

quince?

[Waffdon]

Oh my God we're in fucking total lockdown until May.

Pretty much and then the tier pish from then on? Half the country will be vaccinated by then :lol:

[Magic]

Pretty much and then the tier pish from then on? Half the country will be vaccinated by then :lol:

It's disgusting, I see she's caveated it with 'if I get it totally wrong we can do it sooner'. Absolute retard. But she's doing a great job!!!11

[Magic]

Wait, the Scottish elections take place on 6th May. What a fucking wretch she is.

[Dquincy]

Why are you asking him? Let's ask the real doctor here.

quince?
Let me run some numbers and I'll get straight back to you.

Also, I think it's fair to say that myself, Jimmy and Harvey are generally regarded as the most intelligent posters on this forum. And I'm OK with that responsibility.

[Kikó]

What a strange, hateful person you are @TC

[Magic]

What a strange, hateful person you are @TC

in-laws doing your nut in. :(

[Magic]

Wait, the Scottish elections take place on 6th May. What a fucking wretch she is.

Ties in with all SNP voters are fucking mongos though. :sherlock:

[Boydy]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

[Don]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-56161301

State of those comms. Gonna have a small kickabout myself tomorrow. Well hard.

[7om]

You okay, Magic? You sound like you're having a breakdown.

[Yevrah]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-56161301

State of those comms. Gonna have a small kickabout myself tomorrow. Well hard.

I would suggest the police are going to have their work cut out in the coming months. As soon as private gardens are back in play it's going to be anarchy.

[Magic]

You okay, Magic? You sound like you're having a breakdown.

I broke down after the first 3 weeks of the first one.

[Magic]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-derbyshire-56161301

State of those comms. Gonna have a small kickabout myself tomorrow. Well hard.

Bet the Facebook comments were a laugh.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Next time a football match is found I want all 20 kids hanged from the nearest tree. It's the only way they'll learn.

[Spikey M]

Horrified.

[Shindig]

Just take their ball away. That'll learn 'em. Although some of my best times as a kid involved breaking into things.

[Lewis]

All of the news was about business owners in Cornwall who know we have to move slowly but think that their hotel should be open this week. What purpose does this shite serve?

[Dquincy]

All of the news was about business owners in Cornwall who know we have to move slowly but think that their hotel should be open this week. What purpose does this shite serve?
It doesn't.

You're welcome.

[Queenslander]

For fuck's sake!



Two in hospital after vaccine 'overdose'
By Gabrielle Adams4 minutes ago
Two elderly Australians in an Queensland aged care home received excessive amounts of the COVID-19 vaccine yesterday, 9News understands.

It is understood these two people received four times the amount they were intended to receive.

An 88-year-old man is in hospital while a 94-year-old-woman also received the extra dosage.

The doctor involved has been temporarily stood down from administering further vaccines.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/australia-breaking-news-live-coronavirus-updates-headlines-february-24-2021-facebook-overturns-news-ban-tiger-woods-car-crash/d15bdf92-b53e-4e5a-978a-aea089e33664

[Dquincy]

:lol:

[Shindig]

I hope it gives them superpowers.

[Queenslander]

Gets better.


A doctor who incorrectly gave two elderly people in a Queensland aged care home a "higher than the recommended dose" of the COVID-19 Pfizer vaccine had not completed the required vaccination training.


Privatised Age Care only just had a Royal Commission into that cluster fuck of an industry.


He has asked the Health Department to, "take action against the company and the doctor for what is a clear breach".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-24/coronavirus-queensland-covid-vaccine-rollout-aged-care-brisbane/13179280

[Kikó]

I knew it was the shadowy doctor cabal. Lucky they slipped up.

[Queenslander]

:D

[Shindig]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ajt.16532

More doctor bother.

[Queenslander]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ajt.16532

More doctor bother.

Jeez that's a bit of risk if you ask me.

[Spikey M]

Currently watching Jeremy Vine (for the first and possibly last time) and it's brilliantly mental. This country is fucked. :D

[Ian]

I just checked to see what that actually is and I see his co-host is called "Storm Huntley."

I think I've learned all I need to know.

[Spikey M]

Leave it on Ian. It's brilliant. Currently debating whether smoking on a Zoom call is appropriate. :D

[Ian]

Oh I didn't actually put it on. That does sound like one of the big topics of the day they're taking on there though.

I assume it's just insane callers debating non-issues while Jezza V nods sagely and pretends they're making interesting points?

[Spikey M]

Pretty much, yes.

[Spikey M]

"City people don't know how to behave on beaches" :lol:

[Ian]

Flicked over briefly while the cricket had gone to ads.

Current topic is "Seaside litter blamed on culturally diverse crowds." Is.... is that what it sounds like? Some old fella is talking about people having 'mad raves.'

[Magic]

Taps in perfectly to the pathetic British mindset. Ignore the huge, massive issues and worry about whether or not it's acceptable to wear a scarf on a beach.

[Spikey M]

They're now arguing about how many pants it's acceptable to own. That's enough for today.

[Ian]

Hold on Spikey, you can't say that then not tell me what the conclusion is.

[Spikey M]

It's somewhere between 2 and 365.

[Offshore Toon]

You want enough so that you aren't having to do washing more than every ten days, but you also want some back ups so I'd say 14/15 is the right answer.

Someone (Mahow) should be in charge of watching Vine every day and creating threads out of it. We'd have this place buzzing.

[Ian]

Oh, I'm okay then.

Good news.

[randomlegend]

Second jab done, off to lick some covees.

[Shindig]

That's not covered by HR.

[Dquincy]

Second jab done, off to lick some covees.

Are you gloating?

[Don]

The news going from fat ethnics dying off to Reading and Leeds being confirmed. This is the content we waited for. Only 12 months too, don't know what you weak-minded maggots were complaining and causing such commotion for.

[Lewis]

Did you see the learning difficulties one they had on the BBC? Tenner says his parents are cousins.

[Don]

Also a belter on BBC London involving Ugandans claiming asylum on the basis of homosexuality. Some comically bad lying rounded off with a guy saying "what do they want me to do to prove my homosexuality?" in a strong African(?) accent.

[Spikey M]

UK vaccinated: 27%
EU vaccinated: 5-6%

It's not even due to a shortage. They have stock. People just aren't turning up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Macron and the Germans slating Oxford/AZ a few weeks ago for political reasons, because they were seething at Brexit Britain for whatever reason, must have cost so many lives. Even their refusal to switch over to the British dosing schedule is also costing lives, let alone people just not turning up for the jab.

I mean the Germans still haven't approved it in the over 65s, they are fucking mental.

[Spikey M]

They're waiting for the data Jim. And not that dodgy Scottish data showing it's mustard. They want good, old fashioned, 5 year late, Belgian data.

[Kikó]

UK vaccinated: 27%
EU vaccinated: 5-6%

It's not even due to a shortage. They have stock. People just aren't turning up.

Brexit was the way the new world order was trying to eradicate the british influence. THE FREE-U have seen the truth and aren't injecting themselves with snake oil. Watch the UK population all suddenly die next year.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I do keep thinking this apparent victory parade will no doubt rebound on us somehow, but at the moment I'm not quite seeing how.

[niko_cee]

I do keep thinking this apparent victory parade will no doubt rebound on us somehow

:D

Definitely this.

[Yevrah]

I was talking to a mate who feels the same way last night, so I felt obliged to counter his view. Basically in the same way that roughly a year ago we looked absolutely fucked and it turned out we were, we're now in a position where everything looks close to ending and it will.

[Kikó]

Were you talking to yourself?

[7om]

Every Yev post should be depicted in meme format by Lewis.

[Yevrah]

He'd have his work cut out in the FIFA thread....

[randomlegend]

Are you gloating?

Obvs.

[mo]

LOL at carers of autistic/adhd children getting the vaccination ahead of asthmatics. My cunt sister-in-law gets a jab ahead of my asthmatic wife.

[Lewis]

The ADHD families got pretend vaccines as well.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sounds like we're getting the full Euros now. Such a shame Captain Tom didn't live to see this.

[Spikey M]

LOL at carers of autistic/adhd children getting the vaccination ahead of asthmatics. My cunt sister-in-law gets a jab ahead of my asthmatic wife.

My wife's cousin had the jab about 2 weeks ago on the basis of her asthma.

[Magic]

My cunt sister-in-law gets a jab ahead of my asthmatic wife.

:sherlock:

[Lewis]

Can't wait for the first decent side we come across to blast us in front of a packed Wembley. We might as well hand over our vaccines now.

[mo]

:sherlock:

Do you have a point (to either this post or your existence in general)?

[Spikey M]

No and no.

[Magic]

Lol someone's narky they might actually have to work now.

[Manc]

An alarming amount of people seem to be asthmatic. Darwin turning in his grave.

[Magic]

I bet diagnosis of Asthma have went through the roof. :harold:

[Spikey M]

Like Autism.

[Magic]

Probably, sadly for personal gain. A real kick in the nuts to real sufferers (like the entire board).

[Manc]

Can we have your top three board autistics?

[Spikey M]

Magic, Taz and Lewis.

[Lewis]

Magic, Taz and Lewis.

https://i.imgur.com/eAfxNto.png

The lads. :cool:

[-james-]

I didn't think asthma increased chances of severe COVID illness.

[Magic]

Can we have your top three board autistics?

Tie it in with who was 'SCARED' the most about this bollocks.

Shindig, RL and Mahow. Kiko wildcard as he presents well but has severe social disabilities.

[Kikó]

That post could cause me to die of laughter.

[randomlegend]

My wife's cousin had the jab about 2 weeks ago on the basis of her asthma.

Depends how bad your asthma is as to whether you're considered clinically vulnerable or not.

Mild asthmatics are at no increased risk of severe disease.

[Spikey M]

Depends how bad your asthma is as to whether you're considered clinically vulnerable or not.

Mild asthmatics are at no increased risk of severe disease.

I have never known her have an asthma attack. She is, however, a massive cunt, so I am going to presume she lied about it to get one.

[Magic]

Depends how bad your asthma is as to whether you're considered clinically vulnerable or not.

Mild asthmatics are at no increased risk of severe disease.

*checks science*

In October 2020, King’s College London found that people with asthma were more likely to develop long COVID, a lingering form of the virus that keeps a person sick for weeks or months on end. These symptoms can make it difficult for individuals to work or resume their quality of life.

:harold:

[randomlegend]

1) Long covid and severe disease are different things

2) "People with asthma" gives no details about the severity of asthma.

[Magic]

But I thought covid was the most serious, severe disease ever to exist?

[Spikey M]

Poor Magic. :(

[7om]

Magic is donning this thread senseless.

[Magic]

Who knew science would be so easy to defeat. In fact I must say I do feel a bit guilty laying claim to such donnage as THE SCIENCE is truly self-defeating.

[7om]

And Bill Gates is a nonce murderer.

[randomlegend]

Magic is donning himself senseless.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Magic is donning himself senseless.

Not as much as his ex-wife donned him.

[randomlegend]

Senseless.

[Magic]

Not as much as his ex-wife donned him.

Baseless.

[Spikey M]

You had to move out so I guess she kind of did don you baseless.

[randomlegend]

Wifeless.

[Magic]

You had to move out so I guess she kind of did don you baseless.

Yeah but I moved back in so suck on that, you little bitch.

[7om]

Spikey on the ropes.

[Magic]

Child and wife free. Not a bad trade off?

:henn0rz:

[Spikey M]

Magic made his child homeless pass it on.

[Shindig]

Part of me wonders how he lost in court to a woman who was definitely, 100% having affairs for definite. Reals.

[Magic]

It didn't go to court, and I didn't lose.

EDIT: Depends on how you define 'lose'.

[phonics]

Can we please not use magics personal failings at life against him and stick to the actual content of his idiocy? Nobody wants people to point out that their descent into being a sad, pathetic loon might correlate with them losing everything they cared about most.

[Lewis]

Magic won by not having to live with her anymore. :cool:

[Don]

Imagine if Magic was one of these half tonne wheezing soft shites who backed the lockdown, this taunting would probably have had him calling the police/his mum on this place.

Big alpha energy, dawg. Our victory parade over their oversized corpses is nearly here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Magic won by not having to live with her anymore. :cool:

I think she won that too...

[Dquincy]

Magic doesn't deserve this abuse.

In other news, someone I know said today that there have been no flu cases reported this year and very little over the winter because they are not being separated/identified from the covid cases, which is artificially inflating the number of covid cases.

[Spikey M]

Magic doesn't deserve this abuse.

In other news, someone I know said today that there have been no flu cases reported this year and very little over the winter because they are not being separated/identified from the covid cases, which is artificially inflating the number of covid cases.

The Covid numbers are based on test results.

Plus, Flu being at a low ebb is to be expected with practically no international travel. We base our flu vaccine selection on the strain that is circulating south of the equator during their winter because the expectation is that it will come back over here for our winter. Take travel out of the equation and add masks and social distancing in to the mix and low levels of flu is to be expected.

We're nearly out of this nonsense. Don't go full conspiritard now.

[randomlegend]

Other virus' not spreading much when we take drastic measures to a stop a virus spreading really is a shocker.

[Dquincy]

You folk misunderstand me. I have not said I agree with it. I was merely telling you what someone told me (because of how mental it sounded). I actually offended them with my response as I called them an idiot for suggesting it.

I completely agree with both your points.

[Spikey M]

Fair fucks and my sincerest of apologies Sir Quince.

[Dquincy]

:D

I will say that it is the same person who is (or should I say, will be) refusing the vaccine.

[Yevrah]

Why are the number of jabs per day dropping significantly?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56203768

[Spikey M]

Distribution to other countries is increasing, presumably.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Anti-vaxxers are winning.

[Shindig]

Could be a slowdown in the supply line. I would suggest we might be easing up now the majority of the at-risks are covered but vaccinating everyone (who wants to be) by the end of July sounds like we still want to get this done ASAP.

[Yevrah]

I want a holiday to a warmer climate this year so if Lee's reading this, put your fucking foot down. Kthxbye.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We had a big day yesterday and supply is meant to pick up from 1 March. Wouldn't surprise me if we had a 1 million day by the end of March.

[Kikó]

Magic doesn't deserve this abuse.

In other news, someone I know said today that there have been no flu cases reported this year and very little over the winter because they are not being separated/identified from the covid cases, which is artificially inflating the number of covid cases.

The problem with this theory is that it would involve all RLs to forget what flu is and the main method of diagnosing virus has been compromised. The second problem is not understanding that implementing massive restrictions will reduce the spread rate of a virus that doesn't spread as easily as say, covid 19.

We can answer your Bill Gates question next week on why is he involved with vaccines and did he kill children in India through the polio vaccine.

[niko_cee]

On the testing for flu thing, our public health bod here says we do test for it separately and there has been very little incidence of it [due mostly to the reasons Spikey stated].

[Shindig]

Imagine if we wiped out flu because of this.

[Magic]

Yeah really been worth it.

Huge mental cost, physical cost, business cost, etc. The true cost of this shite will be felt for fucking years and years to come and it'll be a higher burden on the NHS. You maggots thought you had to work hard for 12 months just you wait.

[John Arne]

The amount of people on Twitter claiming that Zero Covid is impossible and hasn't worked anywhere is staggering - these people have access to the internet - yet seem hellbent on not using it. It obviously won't work now in the UK, but has worked elsewhere.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The amount of people on Twitter claiming that Zero Covid is impossible and hasn't worked anywhere is staggering - these people have access to the internet - yet seem hellbent on not using it. It obviously won't work now in the UK, but has worked elsewhere.

It only worked if you did it initially when the disease had hardly got going. No chance of anywhere else doing it now and trying to do it would be genuinely an awful approach.

People seem unable to distinguish in their heads between what was a good decision in Feb 2020 and what is a good decision in Feb 2021. Very different things.

[Spikey M]

And no need.

Why don't these people want zero-chicken pox?

[randomlegend]

I can confirm the slow down is because of supply issues.

[7om]

John Arne is just gutted he won’t be getting our vaccine.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The best bit will be when NEW ZEALAND! has vaccinated everyone and abandons zero covid / the flare-up lockdowns they have from time to time.

[Yevrah]

It only worked if you did it initially when the disease had hardly got going. No chance of anywhere else doing it now and trying to do it would be genuinely an awful approach.

People seem unable to distinguish in their heads between what was a good decision in Feb 2020 and what is a good decision in Feb 2021. Very different things.

People have outed themselves as being truly dreadful when it comes to having an opinion based on the latest information available, choosing instead to dg a trench around whatever opinion they started with. Which I guess is a reflection of discourse in general these days.

[Baz]

What’s the opposite of Team Panic? Team Get A Grip? I’m happy to captain.

15th March 2020. :cool:

And no signs of any kind of wobble in sight.

[Yevrah]

IIRC you seemed to think all schools were plague pits.

[Spikey M]

They are.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56208674

Getting cracking on the over-40's now. Not too sure how. Is the take up in the 50+ not particularly good or something? Feels like that should have taken longer.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Don't think we're doing them now, just next.

I am amused by all the twitter screaming about key workers, as if the main takeaway from 2021 so far has not been that JCVI actually know what they're doing.

[Jimmy Floyd]

But Geoff Barton, general secretary of the Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL), said he was disappointed that education staff would not be prioritised in the next phase.

"This is important not only in reassuring staff who it expects to work in busy and crowded environments, but also in terms of minimising disruption to education caused by staff absence as a result of Covid."

Metropolitan Police Federation chairman Ken Marsh criticised the plans to prioritise by age group, saying "it's absolutely disgusting - they don't give a damn about us".

Sorry but the tone adopted by the good old police federation in contrast to the measured statement from the headmasters' union made me :D

[Spikey M]

Don't think we're doing them now, just next.

I am amused by all the twitter screaming about key workers, as if the main takeaway from 2021 so far has not been that JCVI actually know what they're doing.

People treat it as if key-workers aren't being done. They are, just in order of their age/need. What's the problem?

[Jimmy Floyd]

People treat it as if key-workers aren't being done. They are, just in order of their age/need. What's the problem?

The problem is that people make emotional arguments (similar to the full beaches stuff) and not ones borne out by evidence.

[Spikey M]

I'll admit that I had a similar knee-jerk when the priority bands were announced, but 2 minutes thought and it makes perfect sense.

Realistically, the care sector is where the problem is. That needed sorting as a priority. Beyond that, it's age and health concerns, not fucking professions (apart from Security Guards apparently, but I've never met one that doesn't have a 40 inch waist and grease marks on their shirt, so...).

[John Arne]

John Arne is just gutted he won’t be getting our vaccine.

Too fucking right I'm gutted :)

Vietnam had ordered shedloads from UK, US, China, Russia and the local vaccines . So far they've received about 200k :/

[Lewis]

Baz has kept his cool by spending most of it in his car getting tested.

[7om]

Look at Rob Van Tam spearheading Project Fear.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Zero Covid credentials crew have now officially gone through the looking glass in their efforts to keep lockdowns going.

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[Yevrah]

Deleted. What did it say?

And what bullshit is Swiss Van Tam coming out with? The Luxembourg variant kills an extra 4 people and three goats per million?

[Lewis]

It was a woman with her credentials in her name suggesting that anal swabs are the best bet for testing children.

[Shindig]

Man, these numbers are looking solid. Sliding towards freedom.

[Magic]

8000 still way too high!!!1

[randomlegend]

It was a woman with her credentials in her name suggesting that anal swabs are the best bet for testing children.

If you are looking strictly from the perspective of getting the most accurate result, it is the best way to test kids afaik. It's probably easier than doing nasal/throat swabs too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Probably true, but her suggestion was doing it on a mass/asymptomatic basis in order to find every covid case to eliminate it, which produces somewhat, erm, unfortunate images.

[randomlegend]

I've looked at it again, doesn't look like it's as straightforward as one being better than the other on the most recent research (seems each can be more useful in different circumstances).

Mass rectal swabbing of asymptomatic kids is clearly mental.

[Magic]

That the science again?

[Lofty]

Total nonce-sense.

[randomlegend]

That the science again?

Yes. Science continues to do further investigation to better understanding; sometimes that results in understanding changing over time.

[Kikó]

Magic would prefer the anal swab I've heard.

[randomlegend]

Wouldn't touch the sides of his ravaged hole.

[Spikey M]

He talks out of his arse so it would make most sense.

[Dquincy]

The problem with this theory is that it would involve all RLs to forget what flu is and the main method of diagnosing virus has been compromised. The second problem is not understanding that implementing massive restrictions will reduce the spread rate of a virus that doesn't spread as easily as say, covid 19.

We can answer your Bill Gates question next week on why is he involved with vaccines and did he kill children in India through the polio vaccine.

Again...not my point of view.

My response to you would have been more curt if it wasn't for the recent admission that you're autistic.

[Dquincy]

Also, arse swab would be so much easier than nose/throat for young kiddies.

[Baz]

Baz has kept his cool by spending most of it in his car getting tested.Nah, I walk cos it's so close, and can get a sausage roll on the way home. I have had a lot of tests though. :rosebud:

[phonics]

You go for a COVID test and then go into a shop...?

[Baz]

It's a non-symptom test. So yes.

[Spikey M]

You may have played it cool, but you are the CEO of Team Fear.