Coronavirus Death Thread

[Jimmy Floyd]

Korean figures are the ones to look at. Those guys don't fuck about.

[Mellberg]

827 dead in Italy. That's quite a scary number at this stage.

[Yevrah]

Or the Chinese lied and shit loads more people died there than we'll ever know.

Yep. I'd suspect it's not as well controlled now as they're making out either.

[randomlegend]

I'm no scientist, I'm Yevrah, but could it be that the Chinese had a better resistance to this due to environmental factors that Europeans haven't been exposed to and are therefore don't have.

67 is not old these days and is well below the 80+ range that gave you the lucky 1 in 7 chance.

"Over 45 and male" is apparently where you start to become high risk for being seriously unwell with it.

[Shindig]

I fear we're waiting for the mortality rate to jump before doing anything. You know what'd be nice? Union intervention. Imagine the big unions going on strike on health grounds.

[John Arne]

One of the University bigwigs comes out today saying that Universities can't be shut down because students have nowhere to go. Jesus... wake up, mate.

[bruhnaldo]

In Florida they're signalling to the universities to make plans to move everyone to online learning "as soon as possible" apparently.

They postponed an MLS game in Seattle.

[Pepe]

We're doing the rest of the semester online. I plan to tell my students to read the textbook, watch lectures on Youtube, and do the final when the time comes. Everyone else is chimping out.

[Lewis]

I'm no scientist, I'm Yevrah

Repped.

[Pepe]

We're doing the rest of the semester online. I plan to tell my students to read the textbook, watch lectures on Youtube, and do the final when the time comes. Everyone else is chimping out.

The lollest part of it all is that they are asking the students (who are currently on Spring Break) to come back to gather all their shit. If the purpose is to avoid them all cramming into the same dorm, doesn't that defeat the purpose?

[7om]

Where are you teaching, Pepe?

[Spikey M]

Nothing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Daniele Rugani, a Juventus defender, has it.

[Pepe]

RIP Ronaldo.

[-james-]

Daniele Rugani, a Juventus defender, has it.

Was on the bench at the weekend so there's no way he's the only one.

[Lewis]

Apart from that Euro 2016 final nack Ronaldo can't have been injured since 2008 (https://keyassets-p2.timeincuk.net/wp/prod/wp-content/uploads/sites/30/2009/05/000005e99-cristiano4.jpg), so I bet he has an amazing immune system.

[Yevrah]

Good test this. If it starts killing footballers you can't really cover that up.

[-james-]

The Euros are definitely off now. No football is getting played for at least four weeks after this weekend.

[Kikó]

Imagine losing your life to corona because you had to go and see Liverpool v Atletico.

[Lewis]

What's the death rate for following Liverpool in cups?

[Shindig]

Liverpool fans losing their life at a game? Unheard of. They're usually so careful.

[Yevrah]

Looks like another politician is down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51845861

[Lewis]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-51843128


A teenager was sent home from school after being caught selling shots of hand sanitiser to his fellow pupils at 50p a go. His mother, Jenny Tompkins, from Leeds, posted a picture of him arriving home earlier after his entrepreneurial exploits at Dixons Unity Academy. In a post on Facebook, she said it was hard to discipline her son when his "dad called to say he was a legend". He plans to use the £9 he made to buy a kebab, she added.

Bit of everything there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

She added as well as buying a kebab, her son used some of the cash to buy a multipack of Doritos.

lol.

[Boydy]

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This thread doesn't sound good.

Especially this bit:

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[Yevrah]

Labour have been suspiciously quiet over this.

If only they had an actual leader and not a twat on a losers tour.

[Boydy]

Labour have been suspiciously quiet over this.

If only they had an actual leader and not a twat on a losers tour.
Are we still doing this ffs?

[Yevrah]

Yeah, I am.

We need an opposition.

As for your article, you read that and jesus, I wonder what the actual number of infected is.

[Queenslander]

Medicare and our version of universal health is great I cant imagine living a country like America atm.

[Yevrah]

It'll be pretty grim here when the corpses are piling up because they can't test anywhere near quick enough.

[Queenslander]

Private pathology working with public hospitals and private medical centers as well as the university hospital has been a seamless transition. We also have an existing bulk billed home dr service that is been pumped with funds to keep people out of the emergency.

[Lewis]

And yet Ramsay Street had to raise money to get Sonya Rebecchi the cancer treatment she needed. It was waste of money in the end like, but still. If your system was that great...

[Queenslander]

:D

All the states arent the same though Queensland Health seems to be performing far better than NSW.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It'll be pretty grim here when the corpses are piling up because they can't test anywhere near quick enough.

I genuinely think we're about three weeks from mass graves.

[Yevrah]

I genuinely think we're about three weeks from mass graves.

Even if you go by the official stats, we've got 460 cases and cases have increased by over 20% for each of the last 3 days. Let's call it 25%. If you multiply that out, by the 12th April we'll have over half a millions cases, with (using the current UK death rate) over 10,000 extra corpses to deal with.

By the end of April it'll be half the country infected, with over half a million dead.

3 weeks might be too soon, but I'm not sure you're wrong.

[Lewis]

Add a poll with predicted death numbers.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Even if you go by the official stats, we've got 460 cases and cases have increased by over 20% for each of the last 3 days. Let's call it 25%. If you multiply that out, by the 12th April we'll have over half a millions cases, with (using the current UK death rate) over 10,000 extra corpses to deal with.

By the end of April it'll be half the country infected, with over half a million dead.

3 weeks might be too soon, but I'm not sure you're wrong.

The upper estimates I have read are a long way below that, but we're not at all prepared on any level for what it will be like when the peak hits. I for one will be locking the doors and not leaving my flat for a month, and if that means quitting my job then so be it.

[Yevrah]

The upper estimates I have read are a long way below that, but we're not at all prepared on any level for what it will be like when the peak hits. I for one will be locking the doors and not leaving my flat for a month, and if that means quitting my job then so be it.

I'm sure Ital would have torn me a new one with the approach I took as it's rudimentary as fuck, but whatever way you cut it, if you don't do anything about it, the cases and deaths are exponential.

Out of interest, in the Jimocalypse, what's happening outside your flat?

[Spoonsky]

+1 to the "this is really really bad" crowd

If the UK and Italy are fucking it think what will happen when it reaches countries with less developed medical systems. I'm in Mexico and it's been largely contained here but I have a feeling it's a ticking time bomb.

[Lewis]

They're all pissing themselves laughing at the bloke with AIDS and a living room full of Super Noodles.

[Yevrah]

Africa will be the motherload, but I think as all sensible countries should, they'll just close borders and shut shit down.

Certainly in the UK now, anyone who can do their job from home, should be working from home and so few are.

[Yevrah]

Oh and looks like we're moving to the delay stage, but given the article cites we won't be stopping public gatherings I think that just means we're changing the bulb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51845861

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm sure Ital would have torn me a new one with the approach I took as it's rudimentary as fuck, but whatever way you cut it, if you don't do anything about it, the cases and deaths are exponential.

Out of interest, in the Jimocalypse, what's happening outside your flat?

Probably nothing, but I'm not going to find out. I'm lucky to live alone with no elderly relatives and nobody depending on me, and I intend to milk that for all it's worth.

[Yevrah]

So assuming you're not looking for a free pass and just can't be arsed to go to work, what do you think it will be like when peak hits?

[Jimmy Floyd]

In most places it'll just be ghost town, but in hospitals and wherever else the badly sick are going to, it will be like a war zone. I very much doubt we, or any other nation, have the resources to cope with it. We might hopefully do a better job than Italy, but I can't see an obvious reason why we would given it has taken this long to do anything whatsoever at a high organisational level (I'm sure things are being readied as best as possible on the ground).

One of the problems is that the boomers and post-boomers who run things are the ones who lived through man-made so-called catastrophes like the Cold War and therefore think we are invincible, whereas obviously we are not. My managing director strolling around saying that it's an overreaction was a real eye opener.

I would love to be very wrong but for about a week I've been fully convinced that I'm right and that for a time - maybe a brief time, but a devastating one - this will be an event to mark all our lives.

[Boydy]

Just had a look to see if I could do a big order online from Tesco or Sainsbury's and the earliest I can get delivery is Sunday. I guess lots of people have the same idea.

[Mellberg]

What gets me is when do we stop the containment? Surely every country in the world has to be at zero, otherwise it'll just spread again. This is going as far as it will go and there's no stopping it. I'm just glad I'm not 70.

[Yevrah]

I do believe the time has come to take this seriously and get some tinned shit in to live on. Tesco and Sainsbury's will be hit tomorrow night.

[Yevrah]

What gets me is when do we stop the containment? Surely every country in the world has to be at zero, otherwise it'll just spread again. This is going as far as it will go and there's no stopping it. I'm just glad I'm not 70.

When the vaccine comes. If there isn't one and/or hot weather doesn't kill it (if that would even work), then yeah, it's presumably just something we're going to have to live with and life expectancy will reduce accordingly.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've been stocking up gradually for about ten days and have reached a point where I could live for about six weeks pretty comfortably. That said, I don't see food shortage necessarily being an issue. It's more about how often I would want to (or, in case of infection, be able to) go out at a certain point.

[Queenslander]

A recent New York times podcast was claiming the second winter in America will be the worst.

The Daily Feb 13

[Yevrah]

I've been stocking up gradually for about ten days and have reached a point where I could live for about six weeks pretty comfortably. That said, I don't see food shortage necessarily being an issue. It's more about how often I would want to (or, in case of infection, be able to) go out at a certain point.

You mean if you need medical help or just fancy a walk? Not sure from the way you worded it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If I was infected I wouldn't want to go out and infect others, and if not infected, I wouldn't want to go out and be infected.

The one thing we have in our favour is that our government, like most European governments, is relatively sane (although this behavioural science wank is making me wonder). Trump's USA stands no chance and he needs to be removed from office right now.

[Boydy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html


This is very worrying reading.

[Bernanke]

With any luck Trump himself gets it at some point.

[Gray Fox]

US not accepting any flights from the EU. NBA season also officially on hiatus. I think they're reacting now.

[Queenslander]

If Cumtown cancel their tour I will seethe.

[Queenslander]

Tom Hanks has tested positive on the Gold Coast.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-12/tom-hanks-and-rita-wilson-coronavirus-positive/12049366?pfmredir=sm

[Yevrah]

A line has been crossed.

[Gray Fox]

That's it. Time to shut it down.

[Queenslander]

I have a feeling the Gold Coast will be Queenslands 1st community transmission.

[Gray Fox]

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This was after joking that everyone was overreacting to the virus.

Today he tested positive for it.

[Yevrah]

Thinking about it, sports people are going to know before anyone else if they have it, so probably a good indication of what proportion of the public have it.

And the Hanks thing is huge, you can swap half of the cases up to now for that one, and if it kills him, well...

[Queenslander]

Hanks has diabetes so he could very well drop.

My missus is now working from home as she had chemo this time last year.

[Yevrah]

NBA suspended until further notice.

Seriously, Liverpool aren't going to be winning anything this year.

[Yevrah]

And China are claiming they only had 15 new cases yesterday.

They're not looking.

[Giggles]

Hindsight and all but this really would have been one to try and deliberately contract early before the system became too full.

[Queenslander]

The Government are considering flight bans for the USA and Europe

[Spoonsky]

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This was after joking that everyone was overreacting to the virus.

Today he tested positive for it.

He's on the Utah Jazz :D

It says so much that there are only 3 confirmed cases in Utah and one of them is an NBA All-Star. These numbers are low-balling, hard.

[Queenslander]

https://www.facebook.com/abcinbrisbane/videos/195201518441271/

Tom Hanks may have patient zero'd South East Queensland.

Edit: In the video they are saying you need at least 15 minutes of exposure with a sick person.

[Shindig]

Africa will be the motherload, but I think as all sensible countries should, they'll just close borders and shut shit down.

Certainly in the UK now, anyone who can do their job from home, should be working from home and so few are.

It's shite. Our boss came with the worst of the office cough for two days running. Joking on conference calls, "Yeah, everyone runs a mile when I cough...." I was coming in as she was going home yesterday. Presumably her boss told her to fuck off and isolate.

[Manc]

The scaremongering in this thread. Christ.

[Giggles]

The scaremongering in this thread. Christ.

I'm buying into every bit of it too. I need to take myself away from forums and Twitter for a few weeks I think really.

[Offshore Toon]

Everybody is working from home for the first time on Tuesday to see how the company copes. Should be fine as everything can be done remotely.

Jersey has two cases, but we'll get results this week from passengers who shared a flight with the first bloke. If it explodes, there's no reason to risk keeping people in the office.

[niko_cee]

The scaremongering in this thread. Christ.

:D


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html


This is very worrying reading.

It's [sic] coming outta the goddam walls! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJQ_7jKIm24)

[Spikey M]

Trump has stopped flights from most of Europe. The UK not included.

They're all going to fly into the UK and get onward flights now, aren't they? Cheers Don.

[Kikó]

It's not scaremongering to be concerned. It's a highly contagious virus that sounds horrible to have and something you definitely don't want to find yourself in hospital with. Trump banning EU travel shows the size of it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I hope Team Lol Don't Panic are right but unfortunately I think they are very wrong.

[Queenslander]

Australian right wing Govenment are handing out $17.8 Billion coronavirus stimulus. They must be pretty bloody spooked.

[Kikó]

It's the first time we're seeing the importance of herd immunity in real time.

[mugbull]

So assuming you're not looking for a free pass and just can't be arsed to go to work, what do you think it will be like when peak hits?


The scaremongering in this thread. Christ.

It’s unbelievable.

China have almost completely contained it and they’ve lifted all the sequestration orders and people are back at work. And here people are claiming we’ll be seeing bodies in the streets like its the Black Plague. Jesus. 3 weeks military enforced quarantine and it’s back to normal life. It doesn’t even matter how far along you are when the quarantine starts.

[Jimmy Floyd]

On the other hand, I just saw some people in the supermarket stockpiling bottled water. Ladies, the water supply is not threatened by this.

[Giggles]

On the other hand, I just saw some people in the supermarket stockpiling bottled water. Ladies, the water supply is not threatened by this.

The Mrs was telling me that last night too, she'd popped in to Lidl for a few bits. Though she was saying it was mostly the eastern Europeans and they always drink bottled water here anyway.

[mugbull]

Your talking as if parts of your country arent the equivalent of a 3rd world country.

Not as bad as Hubei at least

[Shindig]

Passport Control's going to be a motherfucker. :(

[John Arne]

It’s unbelievable.

China have almost completely contained it and they’ve lifted all the sequestration orders and people are back at work. And here people are claiming we’ll be seeing bodies in the streets like its the Black Plague. Jesus. 3 weeks military enforced quarantine and it’s back to normal life. It doesn’t even matter how far along you are when the quarantine starts.

I imagine the big difference is that China locked everything down, and essentially everybody in the country had a an extended New Years break... whereas, in the UK and US, fuck all has been done to contain it. There were 50,000 at Anfield last night, and over 200,000 will attend Cheltenham. The UK could easily end up having more cases than China, and with a mortality rate of 3%... that's a lot of dead people.

I just don't get the SCAREMONGERING claims... it's a real virus... actually killing thousands of people. People are rightly concerned.

[mugbull]

I imagine the big difference is that China locked everything down, and essentially everybody in the country had a an extended New Years break... whereas, in the UK and US, fuck all has been done to contain it. There were 50,000 at Anfield last night, and over 200,000 will attend Cheltenham. The UK could easily end up having more cases than China, and with a mortality rate of 3%... that's a lot of dead people.

I just don't get the SCAREMONGERING claims... it's a real virus... actually killing thousands of people. People are rightly concerned.

Yeah, Italy's going the China route and will be all cleared up in a few weeks. Once the UK decides it wants to quarantine seriously, it will and there, too, it will be gone in a few weeks.

It's a serious virus but there's a clear way to stop its spread and we're never going to get to the "bodies strewn in heaps" phase because far before we get there, we'll take the China route

[Manc]

"I've looked at the numbers"

[Shindig]

Any measures we've had have been half-arsed. Travel was stopped to Hubei province but the rest of mainland China was fair game. Italy travel is banned but France and Germany are wide open. Even at work, Hubei and Italy are the only travel we're querying claimant's over. No other European spots, Korea or even Iran.

Take severe measures early and the damage is only two week's worth. Now it'll take months.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yeah, Italy's going the China route and will be all cleared up in a few weeks. Once the UK decides it wants to quarantine seriously, it will and there, too, it will be gone in a few weeks.

It's a serious virus but there's a clear way to stop its spread and we're never going to get to the "bodies strewn in heaps" phase because far before we get there, we'll take the China route

Yep, but 98% of the population is not prepared for 'the China route' and as a result (unlike in China) it will cause economic and in some cases social trauma.

[Giggles]

They don't need to be prepared, they need to be told.

[mugbull]

Yep, but 98% of the population is not prepared for 'the China route' and as a result (unlike in China) it will cause economic and in some cases social trauma.

I don't think the Chinese were prepared either. This is where you can finally put to use the soldiers that are seemingly of no use these days.

[niko_cee]

On the other hand, I just saw some people in the supermarket stockpiling bottled water. Ladies, the water supply is not threatened by this.

It is though. If you don't have a supply of water, or the means to cook all your stockpiled dried goods how are you going to survive indoors for 6 weeks when society falls and the people who work in the power stations or the waterworks are all dead/on 2 weeks leave?

You may as well have not bothered.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The people at the waterworks will not all be dead, in the same way we will still all be doing business but just not from crowded offices.

[niko_cee]

Can they work remotely?

Thinking about it, this must be a cracking window of opportunity if you're planning some sort of terrorist attack.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You could (as I imagine many companies will) do things like group A goes to the office and group B doesn't for two weeks.

[mugbull]

Can they work remotely?

Thinking about it, this must be a cracking window of opportunity if you're planning some sort of terrorist attack.

I was thinking about that, but in the opposite way. If anybody was planning a terrorist attack I'm sure they've had to postpone it. You're not gonna catch a big crowd of people out and about

[Yevrah]

You will still in England seemingly.

[niko_cee]

I was thinking about that, but in the opposite way. If anybody was planning a terrorist attack I'm sure they've had to postpone it. You're not gonna catch a big crowd of people out and about

I was thinking more some sort of organised strike against critical infrastructure rather than some idiot with a van or backpack, but, as the former probably don't really happen you're probably right.

[Bernanke]

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-11/italy-doctors-coronavirus-covid-19-quarantine-milan-health/

The audio here with the two doctors giving accounts from Italy is fucking terrifying.

[Queenslander]

She said: "There are a lot of young people in our Intensive Care Units (ICUs) - our youngest is a 38-year-old who had had no comorbidities (underlying health problems).

"A lot of patients need help with breathing but there are not enough ventilators.

"They've told us that starting from now we'll have to choose who to intubate - priority will go to the young or those without comorbidities.

Fuck that.

[Spikey M]

I was thinking about that, but in the opposite way. If anybody was planning a terrorist attack I'm sure they've had to postpone it. You're not gonna catch a big crowd of people out and about

They could do a hospital pretty well.

[niko_cee]

As ever Lewis Hamilton's take on all this is a good laugh.


I really hope we go through the weekend and don't see any fatalities

:harold:

Says the man who makes a living from an unreasonably dangerous and essentially pointless activity. Let's hope.

[Yevrah]

He’s a proper twat.

[Alex]

I was meant to be attending a gig in Stockholm tomorrow but it's been cancelled as the Swedish government (from what I can gather) have put a ban on public gatherings of 500 people or more. While we just let Cheltenham and whatnot go ahead regardless. I'm not on the panic bandwagon at all, but that did sort of put the perhaps slightly lacking scale of our response in perspective for me.

[John Arne]

McLaren have withdrawn from the Aussie F1 this weekend.

La Liga suspended for 2 weeks.

[John Arne]

The next 4 weeks are going to be a boring as fuck. No sports at all. Time to start a new FM game.

[thommo]

Ireland now closing schools and colleges from tomorrow until the 29th.

[Yevrah]

The entire Real Madrid team are now in quarantine.

This is proper end of days response stuff, thankfully with a lot less death.

[Boydy]

I was thinking more some sort of organised strike against critical infrastructure rather than some idiot with a van or backpack, but, as the former probably don't really happen you're probably right.
It happens quite a bit but it's more hacking and stuff rather than blowing shit up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Remember what I said about golf being the last to react? Well, I'm pleased to inform you that Rory Sabbatini leads the Players Championship at one under par in front of a full gallery.

[Giggles]

LOCKDOWN from 6pm. Aside from schools and childcare, indoor gatherings of 100 and outdoor of 500 are out the window too.

[Mazuuurk]

I was meant to be attending a gig in Stockholm tomorrow but it's been cancelled as the Swedish government (from what I can gather) have put a ban on public gatherings of 500 people or more. While we just let Cheltenham and whatnot go ahead regardless. I'm not on the panic bandwagon at all, but that did sort of put the perhaps slightly lacking scale of our response in perspective for me.

What gig?

[Giggles]

I’d Mick Flannery tonight myself but wasn’t going to go anyway. Hopefully it’s cancelled so I can have my money back.

EDIT: Actually it’s next week so it’s bound to be cancelled anyway.

[Waffdon]

An unnamed PL club has three players showing signs of this and the whole team have been tested. Results tomorrow.

Probably Arsenal.

[niko_cee]

I thought it was interesting, going off that global stats/tally website thing that, of the 434 active cases in the UK at the moment, not a single one is considered serious or critical, which I take to mean that there are currently ZERO people in hospital in the UK with coronavirus. NHS in crisis! How will we cope? Shut down everything!

I can only assume the Irish think there might be some sort of EU handout for this and don't want to miss the boat on it by being open for business.

[Yevrah]

An unnamed PL club has three players showing signs of this and the whole team have been tested. Results tomorrow.

Probably Arsenal.

The Premier League is done. I thought the slip was comical enough, but to be denied by an act of God is something else.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I thought it was interesting, going off that global stats/tally website thing that, of the 434 active cases in the UK at the moment, not a single one is considered serious or critical, which I take to mean that there are currently ZERO people in hospital in the UK with coronavirus. NHS in crisis! How will we cope? Shut down everything!

I can only assume the Irish think there might be some sort of EU handout for this and don't want to miss the boat on it by being open for business.

The serious/critical column is nonsense, no one's bothering to report those. We've had 8 deaths which I assume were fairly serious cases.

[Yevrah]

We've also been at 400-odd cases for about 3 days now. The scoreboard updater must have caught it.

[Yevrah]

Death toll jumps in Spain
Coronavirus-related deaths and infections have jumped in Spain.

New daily figures, released by the country’s health ministry, show 84 people have now died - an increase from 47 on Wednesday.

It added that there was 2,968 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the country.

It really isn't anything to worry about.

[Pepe]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/scientific_briefing.png

[Alex]

What gig?

Big Thief. It was meant to be at a place called Debaser, if that means anything to you? They had four dates left on the European tour (two in Sweden and then one in Norway and one in Denmark) and they've just cancelled the remaining gigs and (presumably) gone home. It's to be expected, I guess.

I don't know whether to still go to Stockholm or not to be honest. It was only a really short trip. Fly out tomorrow morning, fly back Saturday night.

[Lewis]

*comes back with no hair and two bumholes*

[Bernanke]

Big Thief. It was meant to be at a place called Debaser, if that means anything to you? They had four dates left on the European tour (two in Sweden and then one in Norway and one in Denmark) and they've just cancelled the remaining gigs and (presumably) gone home. It's to be expected, I guess.

I don't know whether to still go to Stockholm or not to be honest. It was only a really short trip. Fly out tomorrow morning, fly back Saturday night.

I thought Debaser announced that they were gonna keep holding gigs but limiting attendance?

[Waffdon]

Add the Leicester team to those showing symptoms. This is fun. Jamie Vardy is fucked

[Alex]

I thought Debaser announced that they were gonna keep holding gigs but limiting attendance?

I’m not sure then, perhaps it’s just purely the bands decision. Like I say, they did cancel the Norway and Denmark dates too. Either way, it’s not happening.

[Yevrah]

Another 130 cases yesterday and two more deaths, so we're up to 590 for 10 now.

In the spirit of Pep's cartoon thing, I'd like to know what the plan is. Other than buying copious amounts of toilet roll I can't see that we've done a single thing differently to date.

[Giggles]

I hate when I log on and see Yev as last poster. You just know there's been another mass death.

[phonics]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES5rhTfWoAAWNHh.jpg

:D

[Yevrah]

For those of us that play it 2pm is the new 6pm content drop from FIFA, with possibly just as much incompetence, but more death.

[Yevrah]

11% has been wiped off our share price today. 40% lower than it was a month ago now.

If anyone gets the tip that we're going on lockdown, get it in here.

[Yevrah]

ATP tour shut down, WTA tour to follow suit.

Are they still knocking balls about on the green Jim?

[Ian]

Well we've just been told we're all working from home from tomorrow until whenever they tell us otherwise.

[Bernanke]

It does seem like the levies broke today on a wider scale when it comes to actions taken.

[phonics]

I've been sent to work from home. It's nightmarish, I'm never getting anything done.

[Jimmy Floyd]

ATP tour shut down, WTA tour to follow suit.

Are they still knocking balls about on the green Jim?

Bryson DeChambeau's made the turn at four under, a super start for 'the Scientist'.

[thommo]

Football suspended until the end of March in the Netherlands, and indefinitely in Portugal.

MLS is apparently about to announce an indefinite suspension also.

[John Arne]

The closure of all schools and Uni's here has been extended to end April.
Still only 39 cases, and most of them due to 2 idiots coming into the country and lying about their locations (Italy).

[Pepe]

I'm still supposed to go to work, but I have decided that I am staying home for at least a week or two.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Rumours at my work suggest it's been decided the company can't support working from home.

Business is absolutely rampaging this week, at least in the markets I run. No one gives a fuck.

[niko_cee]

Maybe bearings are the new toilet roll.

I shamed a woman in the supermarket today into putting back one of the three massive packs of toilet roll she could hardly handle by laughing at her predicament.

I then panic-bought a slab of Irn-Bru.

[Giggles]

The GAA have at least done it right here with no grey areas. All games and training from under 10 club up to senior inter county is knocked on the head.

[Giggles]

Fuck, I bought no fizz.

[niko_cee]

And, as if to conflate things with an earlier tangential comment of mine holy shit (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-51836206).

I bet they can smell the corpses.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I bought 60 cans of Coke Zero.

Priorities.

[niko_cee]

Michel Roux has died.

[thommo]

Michel Roux has died.

Not because of coronavirus.

[niko_cee]

Are you sure? Was he tested? Long standing lung condition you say?!?!?!?

[thommo]

Are you sure? Was he tested? Long standing lung condition you say?!?!?!?

Considering the fact he was 'surrounded by family' when he died and nobody is now in quarantine, I'd presume he didn't have it. It would been flashed across the media if he had.

[Lofty]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/scientific_briefing.png

I feel like the XKCD extrapolation comic is the perfect foil to this.

[Yevrah]

It's serious Niko, but doesn't mean everyone who dies was got by it.

I think you're scaremongering with that one. :teacher:

[-james-]

I'm guessing from the number of famous people that have tested positive that the reported numbers are a massive under-estimation and we're all already absolutely swimming in it.

[niko_cee]

I think a celebrity death tally is the only way to really know if this is anything more to worry about than simple everyday life. Natural causes, long-standing conditions and the dreaded short-illness have left coronavirus in the starter's gates thus far.

[Pepe]

I feel like the XKCD extrapolation comic is the perfect foil to this.

This one?

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/extrapolating.png

[Boydy]

Well we've just been told we're all working from home from tomorrow until whenever they tell us otherwise.
Same here

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51859548

Looks like it will be Euro 2021.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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This was after joking that everyone was overreacting to the virus.

Today he tested positive for it.

1238114778167599110

RIP the Utah Jazz.

[Disco]

Back to work today and three of us were off with the same thing.

There's also no way they close the office without being forced to, I wager we take zero preventative measures (beyond the box of screen wipes someone has optimistically put on the reception desk).

[thommo]

Same situation here. Muddling through right now and no plans to close or work from home.

I have heard a rumour that schools will be closed from Monday onwards till after Easter, in Wales at least. Now whether it is true or not waits to be seen.

[Yevrah]

The government are leaving it late to announce the outcome of their meeting. They're in a rock and a hard place, but I suspect they have no clue what to do for the best.

[SvN]

I'm thinking we'll be working from home next week onwards.

[niko_cee]

When do Italy normally update their daily numbers?

popcorngif

[bruhnaldo]

Did I mention we're pretty sure we have some in our hospital or nah

[7om]

Looks like the F1 race in Australia this weekend is off.

[Yevrah]

The phrase "this is a virus that doesn't respect borders" is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard said.

[Giggles]

The phrase "this is a virus that doesn't respect borders" is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard said.

At least Ebola hadn’t a visa to get out of Africa that time.

[Manc]

We've reached double figures. Board up your windows and doors.

[Jimmy Floyd]

When do Italy normally update their daily numbers?

popcorngif

When they manage to reverse the trend is when we can start to breathe a sigh of relief, ish.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51860669

No Champions League matches next Tuesday.

[Yevrah]

"I must level with you, more families, many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time"

It's quite stark hearing your PM say that.

[7om]

Fucking hell, Johnson laying down some harsh realities. Time to batten down the hatches.

[niko_cee]

When they manage to reverse the trend is when we can start to breathe a sigh of relief, ish.

As if that's going to happen. Their ICU units are probably made of paper maché, care of The Mafia.

[Yevrah]

4 weeks behind Italy we are apparently.

[7om]

Johnson said that closing schools could do more harm than good. I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, but what’s the theory behind that statement?

[Bernanke]

Johnson said that closing schools could do more harm than good. I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, but what’s the theory behind that statement?

Medical personnel forced to stay home with kids is a common argument I've heard.

[Yevrah]

This scientist seems legit, so we might be about to find out.

Quite remarkable all this.

[niko_cee]

Johnson said that closing schools could do more harm than good. I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, but what’s the theory behind that statement?

Isn't it that it stops key workers from being able to key work because they have to look after their kids?

Also they closed them in Italy and all everyone did was scoot off all around Europe visiting as many elderly relatives as possible.

[7om]

The scientist geezer reckons our real number is 5000-10000.

[Yevrah]

Apparently you need to close schools for 13-16 weeks for it to have an effect. Why? I've no idea either.

Probably similar logic to the 72 hours to find your daughter in Taken.

[7om]

The chief medical officer looks like he hasn’t slept in a week.

[Yevrah]

We're in it for the long haul too apparently. My interpretation of that would be no change from this side of Christmas.

[Yevrah]

No calling 111 for minor symptoms anymore.

They've already given up trying to track the numbers. Shit. Shit.

[Bob Sacamano]

I think the policy is actually to get the virus through the population - yes, that will kill people - but then we build up immunity to it. Fucking hell it's brave and a tough stance.

[Bernanke]

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:eyemouth:

[Yevrah]

Fucking hell.

[niko_cee]

Mamma mia!

:face:

[Bernanke]

6.7% fatality rate there. All that olive oil and still they can't beat one tiny bug.

[Yevrah]

I don't know where I stand on this approach yet, as these chaps are talking a good game, but we've basically put our elderly's lives in the hands of Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck's drill bits.

[CJay]

Our Tesco here in Limavady was packed at 4.30 this afternoon (not normally that busy a time) and most non-fresh goods aisles were being emptied. That’s the first sign of proper panic buying I’ve seen.

When do ‘preppers’ start breaking into their stashes? Is that only after shops get shut and the dead start rising?

All our workers are being prepared to work from home where possible. I don’t have any work devices so I get off scott free if it comes to that. :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

If this proves to be the right approach, then CMO and the other scientist guy have balls of steel. I am really not convinced by 'behavioural science' though.

[John Arne]

There's The Sun headline

"Government estimate 80% of population to be infected - 52m people will have virus!!"

[John Arne]

The biggest thing to shock me here is BoJo sounding somewhat ministerial/serious. It's hard to fathom.

[Lofty]

If this proves to be the right approach, then CMO and the other scientist guy have balls of steel. I am really not convinced by 'behavioural science' though.

Yeah it's all good on paper until you end up like the guy on Mindhunter whining that your offender doesnt fit your profile.

[Lofty]

This one?

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/extrapolating.png

That's the one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We have a labourer from Poland who is staying in the half finished downstairs flat and he has a temperature of 38 today.

[Mike]

Johnson said that closing schools could do more harm than good. I’m not saying he’s right or wrong, but what’s the theory behind that statement?

Well that stinks. I was all set for a month off!

[Pepe]

If this proves to be the right approach, then CMO and the other scientist guy have balls of steel. I am really not convinced by 'behavioural science' though.

Not exactly sure what you are referring to, but if it is the same thing, then:

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1237829808010248194?s=20

[Yevrah]

If this proves to be the right approach, then CMO and the other scientist guy have balls of steel. I am really not convinced by 'behavioural science' though.

My worry is that Johnson went with the unorthodox in Cummings and it proved a masterstroke. Not sure whether that will strike twice.

As it stands, we're still doing nothing and accepting that we're 4 weeks away from 200 people dying a from a pandemic is not how I imagined this decade would begin.

And on that. If the peak is May and we're only 4 weeks behind Italy, how bad is it going to get for them by April?

[Yevrah]

And the bit where this falls on its arse for me is bolded below (from a Beeb piece):


Other countries are closing schools, restricting movement and banning mass gatherings.

But health officials in the UK are taking a much more gradual, step-by-step approach. Why?

The obvious answer is that we have a relatively low number of confirmed cases so there is no need to take steps that will have profound social and economy consequences.

But we are also in this for the long haul. Countries taking drastic steps may well slow transmission. But how long can those steps be sustained?

At some point they have to be lifted and then the number of cases will rise.

If you can have some kind of controlled transmission, where the number of cases are kept low enough to allow the NHS to cope, is that a better way of managing it?

That’s certainly what the experts and ministers in the UK have decided. They believe it gives them the best chance of saving lives in the inevitable spread of the virus across the country.

I don't know how what we're doing controls transmission.

[Foe]

Share price taking another dive. It’s operating at about 50% what it was 9 months ago.

Now trying to work out how much money I can legitimately throw at shares in a a few days time without it being irresponsible.

Work gave us a little bag with hand sanitiser, tissues, e45 cream and a stylus today.

Gonna use the cream on my bald head as a moisturiser.

Also got a new couch delivered at the weekend (made in Italy over the last two months) so clearly, I am fucked.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We have a labourer from Poland who is staying in the half finished downstairs flat and he has a temperature of 38 today.

Told him he should self-isolate for a week and he's already gone out.

People are stupid and this is why it's spreading so quickly.

[mugbull]

Looking pretty good for the initial red zones in Italy

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51852320

Seems to indicate that it will have subsided in the rest of the country by two weeks time.

Give it until end of April at the latest and everything should be back up again. Don’t know how likely it is to have a recurrence, though. Definitely possible.

[niko_cee]

Italy is also clearly an outlier in how this has gone (from a mortality perspective anyway), ostensibly compared to all other countries, so I don't really get how it is the model everyone else is going to follow.

[mugbull]

Italy just has way more cases that have gone unreported. Maybe there are other reasons to have a slightly higher mortality rate, but that is far and away the biggest. There's no other way, statistically, that that could happen. It's not like there's a different strain only affecting Italians

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is the problem I have with our government's advice.

Virus spreads through human contact, therefore reduce human contact = reduce spread of virus. That seems fairly failsafe logic, though someone please tell me if it isn't.

What they're basically doing is taking that logic and saying 'Well, actually...' and then spaffing out some guff from SOAS 2nd year undergrad anthropology.

Getting people to stay at home for 7 days with minor symptoms is progress, but have either the CMO, or Boris Johnson, or the behavioural scientist have ever experienced workplaces like car mechanics, or small shops, self-employed tradesmen etc where the approach to that will be TUFF IT AAAT MATE. On a similar theme, I just went to have my hair cut and I half wondered (naively) if they'd be wearing gloves or something as that's an ideal transmission scenario. In fact, the guy chatted shit about it in true barber fashion for ten minutes and then cracked this rib tickler: 'I might go to that Woo Fung on ollerdee, bet it's ot and there's some right good prices!!!!'

[Jimmy Floyd]

Italy just has way more cases that have gone unreported. Maybe there are other reasons to have a slightly higher mortality rate, but that is far and away the biggest. There's no other way, statistically, that that could happen. It's not like there's a different strain only affecting Italians

I think the most logical explanation is they had patient zero very early on, and didn't have a clue it was going around for weeks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also, today a mechanic came to look at my car (which I'm selling :() and afterwards he held out his hand to shake and I couldn't refuse.

I'm a fool.

[Yevrah]

If Italy's approach is the right one then that's worrying for the stance we've taken. I know we're well behind them, if we're even on the same curve, but I get the sense we won't be locking much, if anything down.

[Lewis]

Would be amazing if for all his pearl-clutching and stockpiling Floyd got this off the most pointless haircut imaginable.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Would be amazing if for all his pearl-clutching and stockpiling Floyd got this off the most pointless haircut imaginable.

When you're balding, you actually need a haircut more often as it looks dogshit past a certain length.

[phonics]

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I mean that's just funny.

[Bernanke]

I just don't get how the phasing out of measures is going to work, because even if you halt spread and get pressure off healthcare services, as long as you have active cases in the country or people infected travelling, isn't it just gonna kick-start again? Is the solution to balance getting as many people infected as possible but over the appropriate time, so that they build immunity and stop community spread that way? How long is that gonna take?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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I mean that's just funny.

What a mong.

[Disco]

That all sounded surprisingly sensible.

Then the first question asked by some dim bitch on 5Live was what 'new' meant in the context of a cough, as if the definition had magically changed in the last half an hour.

[phonics]

I just don't get how the phasing out of measures is going to work, because even if you halt spread and get pressure off healthcare services, as long as you have active cases in the country or people infected travelling, isn't it just gonna kick-start again? Is the solution to balance getting as many people infected as possible but over the appropriate time, so that they build immunity and stop community spread that way? How long is that gonna take?

About two winters they reckon.

[Bernanke]

About two winters they reckon.

Tourism is 10% of the world economy. Even if markets crashed today, fuck knows what will turn it around in that case.

[phonics]

To fully remove it from circulation I mean. Not these measures.

[bruhnaldo]

I mean that's just funny.

Hey man i live in Palm Beach :(

[ScousePig]

Well that stinks. I was all set for a month off!

Looks like we'll just have to wait until the summer term and get a 10 week break instead.

We've banned parents from our certificate assembly in the morning. That's about as radical as it gets for my school.

[niko_cee]

Jim and Yev will be glad to know that we've gone to semi-Madagascar mode here, advising against all non-essential travel and for people with pretty much any symptoms of anything to self-isolate until 48hrs after the symptoms have passed.

:cab:

[Jimmy Floyd]

I will be sending a note of congratulations to whoever is in charge of you (mayor? Governor-General?) on behalf of Team Panic.

[Yevrah]

Well that last bit is nuts.

[niko_cee]

I'll let you know when we:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memes-pedia/images/8/8b/ShutDownEverything.png/revision/latest?cb=20160227221440&path-prefix=es

[Yevrah]

The language these people are using is insane.


Prof Chris Whitty, the country's chief medical adviser, said he was expecting the numbers to "increase initially slowly, but really quite fast after a while, and we have to catch it before the upswing begins".

Catch what and how? What in the fuck is he talking about?

[Giggles]

I’ve missed a few pages, how fucked are we now?

[Yevrah]

Depending on how well "keep calm and carry on" works as a strategy, mildly or a bit more than that. Or maybe a lot. Who knows.

[Boydy]

Went into the lidl in the city centre to get a few things on my way home from work. Pasta and rice shelves completely bare.

My boss showed me photos his wife took of the pasta and toilet roll aisles of a big Sainsbury's on the outskirts of Belfast and they were completely empty.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a proper breakdown of law and order if this shit keeps up.

[Boydy]

Depending on how well "keep calm and carry on" works as a strategy, mildly or a bit more than that. Or maybe a lot. Who knows.

People called the police when KFC ran out of chicken. The UK can lie to itself all it wants but it can't do 'keep calm amd carry on' at all.

[Bernanke]

Madrid health counselor on TV right now:
60% of cases are mild
30% are serious and need hospitalization
10% are critical

:eyemouth:

[Yevrah]

The stockpiling has been done too soon as well, were it even needed in the first place, so people are going to have to double dip in the run up to the supposed peak. While far more infected people are wandering around too.

[Giggles]

Went into the lidl in the city centre to get a few things on my way home from work. Pasta and rice shelves completely bare.

My boss showed me photos his wife took of the pasta and toilet roll aisles of a big Sainsbury's on the outskirts of Belfast and they were completely empty.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a proper breakdown of law and order if this shit keeps up.

It’ll happen here anyway. There was a lidl looted and torched just because of a snowfall two years ago so I’m fully expecting mayhem with this.

[Yevrah]

People called the police when KFC ran out of chicken. The UK can lie to itself all it wants but it can't do 'keep calm amd carry on' at all.

Well maybe I misread the briefing today, but that was the message we were seemingly given to follow.

[Yevrah]

Madrid health counselor on TV right now:
60% of cases are mild
30% are serious and need hospitalization
10% are critical

:eyemouth:

Do we know it hasn't actually mutated from the shit that started in China?

[Kikó]

I'm starting my 3 week work from home period starting tomorrow.

[Yevrah]

What snacks have you got in?

By the time I make it to the supermarket again all I'm going to be left with is Fray Bentos pies.

[niko_cee]

One of the most interesting things for me to have come out of all this is that worldometer website and the various normal stats it churns out.

95,531 deaths from seasonal flu this year
192,970 deaths from malaria this year
330,720 deaths from AIDs/HIV this year
2,553,950 deaths from communicable diseases this year

[Yevrah]

It's funny that AIDS isn't really considered when these things are discussed. 30m+ it's killed to date.

[Giggles]

I'm starting my 3 week work from home period starting tomorrow.

Best way. Most of us are now too. I’m closest to work so I’ll do what needs to be done on site which is ok of nobody else is there.

[Boydy]

Well maybe I misread the briefing today, but that was the message we were seemingly given to follow.
I'm not disagreeing that was the message, I'm saying the public won't be able to follow it.

[Yevrah]

I'm not disagreeing that was the message, I'm saying the public won't be able to follow it.

Indeed. In fact, all signs point the other way.

[Giggles]

What snacks have you got in?

By the time I make it to the supermarket again all I'm going to be left with is Fray Bentos pies.


I bought in a fuckload of beer, 6 big bags of walkers max chicken wing, and a couple of kilo bags of nuts. Eating all the fresh food til it’s gone and can start on tins and freezer then. Bottled another 20 litres of ipa today too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I went to Costco today (before going to a restaurant so couldn't buy frozen stuff) and all they were missing was toilet paper, hand gel and pasta.

Will have to go again.

[Manc]

Question Time will be peak television.

[randomlegend]

Norfolk yet to have a case apparently (the highlands is the only other county unaffected). We should just shut the A11 at the borders and ride it out in isolation.

[Boydy]

Norfolk yet to have a case apparently (the highlands is the only other county unaffected). We should just shut the A11 at the borders and ride it out in isolation.

Yeah, more inbreeding, that's what you need.

[CJay]

Went into the lidl in the city centre to get a few things on my way home from work. Pasta and rice shelves completely bare.

My boss showed me photos his wife took of the pasta and toilet roll aisles of a big Sainsbury's on the outskirts of Belfast and they were completely empty.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a proper breakdown of law and order if this shit keeps up.

What’s the atmosphere in Belfast like generally?

[Jimmy Floyd]

As someone who has been deploying the 'little and often' approach to panic buying, I'm pretty sure the supply chain is pretty resilient for all items except paracetomol.

Not sure about Ireland but it can't be too different. The only threat is complete thickos who think this will result in a year long ruckus, rather than a possible 2-4 weeks of needing to stay indoors for public health reasons.

[Giggles]

What’s the atmosphere in Belfast like generally?

As opposed to?

[Foe]

Best outcome of this for me is the expectation of offshore visits is going to be completely moot. Imagine being on rig if someone gets it.