Coronavirus Death Thread

[Don]

I'm not sure if mine's fully cleared yet or not, keep an eye on it and report back developments.

[Kikó]

What's up with it? Does covid cause gout?

[Magic]

It makes your nails go weird too.

[randomlegend]

What's up with it? Does covid cause gout?

There was an increase in the number of people presenting with chilblain like lesions on their toes when covid came along so it was thought there might be a link. It's been called "covid toes" and the theorised mechanism is vascular injury to the small vessels in the toes caused by the virus.

Seems the evidence as to whether it's actually caused by covid or not is very inconclusive.

[Pepe]

I call dibs on Webly's Steam library if he snuffs it.

You'll have to fight me to death for it (in the game of your choice.)

[igor_balis]

Vaccine bit addressed above. And I will go clubbing, there's an offer of a night out still on the table to whoever picked the date correctly.

I'd be up for it, I promise I won't be too zany.

[Don]

The only thing the evidence is conclusive about it is how soft you all are.

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:D

[Shindig]

There was an increase in the number of people presenting with chilblain like lesions on their toes when covid came along so it was thought there might be a link. It's been called "covid toes" and the theorised mechanism is vascular injury to the small vessels in the toes caused by the virus.

Seems the evidence as to whether it's actually caused by covid or not is very inconclusive.

Yeah, I mean, you could theorise the lack of oxygen leads to your extremities getting knackered. Maybe. But then that would most likely lead to a lot of other shit. Like the fatigue, breathlessness, brain fog, etc.

[Shindig]

Also, that vaccine ad is really, really not shy about hitting the minorities. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Taz is ready for his hot boy summer.

[Lewis]

Every minority/freak in that video will have been the sort of melt banging the door down to get it early (and probably did because of some non-ailment they claim to suffer from). The minorities not getting it are the Batley school mob and stupid old West Indians, and they aren't going to be convinced by brown Lofty getting his peri salt.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If they turned every branch of Pepe's into a vaccination centre we'd be living it up by now.

[Spikey M]

I'm just impressed they managed to be more annoying than the Domino's advert.

[Baz]

Vaccine bit addressed above. And I will go clubbing, there's an offer of a night out still on the table to whoever picked the date correctly.
I think (https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/showthread.php?2792-When-will-the-clubs-open-Sponsored-by-Don&p=433729&viewfull=1#post433729) Mike won.

[Yevrah]

Everyone is obviously welcome.

EDIT: But need to see if we get plunged back into lockdown first.

[Queenslander]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/new-zealand-suspends-travel-bubble-with-australia-for-at-least-two-months

It is frustrating that both countries don't have sophisticated purpose built Federally run quarantine facilities. Nothing has changed since the start.

[Max Power]

If they turned every branch of Pepe's into a vaccination centre we'd be living it up by now.

“CALLING EVERYONE IN LEICESTER”

:rave:

[Yevrah]

He was using his personal email account?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57930820

Jesus wept.

[Magic]

How are you feeling now?

And for that matter how are you Ian?

Awful still but not as bad as before. The worst things now are:

Still no sense of smell or taste
Recurring random headaches
Sweats
Inability to give 100% focus, resulting in headache and fever when I do
Brain fog, my decision making is shit and my driving has turned in to middle-aged Peugeot levels
Fatigue
Chest tremors and coughing fits, plus breathing issues

Not sure how much of that is the pneumonia, but the mental stuff definitely wasn't there last time and it's the worst. I feel like I'm operating at 45% all the time and literally can't give any more. Shit when you're most fabulous asset is creative, out the box thinking in sales and now I'm basically Shindig.

[Yevrah]

:D

Interesting you have brain fog. Utterly debilitating. I wonder whether I had the fucker after all.

[Boydy]

As funny as this has been, I hope you get well soon x

[randomlegend]

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Is this you Magic?

[Yevrah]

Everyone should tell him he's stupid, that'll definitely change his mind.

[randomlegend]

Everyone should tell him he's stupid, that'll definitely change his mind.

Nothing will change his mind. Calling people stupid who won't change their mind in the face of overwhelming evidence that they're wrong is the right thing to do.

[Yevrah]

Nothing will change his mind. Calling people stupid who won't change their mind in the face of overwhelming evidence that they're wrong is the right thing to do.

I know this. My post was tongue in cheek. Other people should know this, yet they still do it. I would put all I have on that Twitter thread being full of it.

[Kikó]

Awful still but not as bad as before. The worst things now are:

Still no sense of smell or taste
Recurring random headaches
Sweats
Inability to give 100% focus, resulting in headache and fever when I do
Brain fog, my decision making is shit and my driving has turned in to middle-aged Peugeot levels
Fatigue
Chest tremors and coughing fits, plus breathing issues

Not sure how much of that is the pneumonia, but the mental stuff definitely wasn't there last time and it's the worst. I feel like I'm operating at 45% all the time and literally can't give any more. Shit when you're most fabulous asset is creative, out the box thinking in sales and now I'm basically Shindig.

Interesting. I've had the brain fog, fatigue and inability to focus but that has pretty much cleared up from yesterday. Sense of smell and taste is still done but I was able to work out today which is pretty encouraging.

Hope you feel better you crazy cunt x

[Spikey M]

From what I've read, exercise is a bad idea. They're pretty sure doing too much while you have Covid is the leading cause of LongCovid.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, my fit as fuck mate still isn't running at full pelt four months on now and he only tried once about a month after having it and realised it was a bad idea.

[Dquincy]

Kiko is made of stronger stuff, clearly. That and he's got some banging walking boots.

[Baz]

Yeah, my fit as fuck mate still isn't running at full pelt four months on now and he only tried once about a month after having it and realised it was a bad idea.Thought this was a Jimmy Floyd post for a sec.

[Dquincy]

Are you still deemed an idiot if you won't take the vaccine until the trials are completed (which is circa a year or so away)?

[Magic]

Weights is fine but apparently your cardio doesn't recover for 6-12 months.

[Kikó]

Are you still deemed an idiot if you won't take the vaccine until the trials are completed (which is circa a year or so away)?

Again, this is conspiracy bollocks. Phase 3 is complete, they're not in trials.

[Dquincy]

Again, this is conspiracy bollocks. Phase 3 is complete, they're not in trials.

Yes and no.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2AC2G3

I believe people are referring to “estimated study completion date” of Jan. 31, 2023.

[Yevrah]

You've fallen foul of the first rule of SCIENCE there Dquincy. You must trust it without checking anything.

To do so, is Conspiracy Bollocks.

[Kikó]

No, it's no. Phase 3 has finished. They're not in trials.

[Spikey M]

What does the study completion date refer to though?

[Kikó]

The ongoing monitoring as the link says Spikes. But they're not in trials anymore or experimental. We have 8 months+ of real world data of the impact and adverse reactions of the vaccine, they're safe.

This link also explains the lingo

https://fullfact.org/health/covid-19-vaccines/

[Don]

Have to delay my return to the clubs by a week as I can't make tomorrow's mega affair any more :(

[Yevrah]

Don't question it Spikey.

[Spikey M]

Monitoring what though? The initial trial subjects?

I'm just interested, not looking for any cover-ups or anything.

[Dquincy]

Keeks, I'm in agreement. The clinical trial has finished from what I've read.

I think 'these' people are referring to the study of the ongoing monitoring and incorrectly referring to it as the clinical trial.

Would people call them idiots for wanting to wait? Can't work out if they are just being cautious or if they fall into the anti-vaxxer pool.

[Kikó]

Monitoring what though? The initial trial subjects?

I'm just interested, not looking for any cover-ups or anything.

Yep. Those in the first trial.

[Kikó]

Keeks, I'm in agreement. The clinical trial has finished from what I've read.

I think 'these' people are referring to the study of the ongoing monitoring and incorrectly referring to it as the clinical trial.

Would people call them idiots for wanting to wait? Can't work out if they are just being cautious or if they fall into the anti-vaxxer pool.

Yes because we have real life proof of effectiveness and know the adverse effects already.

[Giggles]

Are you doing vaccination passports for indoor stuff there too? Seems a good way to sort out most of the anti vax twats.

[Spikey M]

Are you doing vaccination passports for indoor stuff there too? Seems a good way to sort out most of the anti vax twats.

Only for things young people like by the look of it (clubs mostly).

[Yevrah]

Yes because we have real life proof of effectiveness and know the adverse effects already.

Not in pregnant Women we don't, they weren't in the initial trials. Oops, I questioned it.

[Dquincy]

Not in pregnant Women we don't, they weren't in the initial trials. Oops, I questioned it.

:D

[Dquincy]

Are you doing vaccination passports for indoor stuff there too? Seems a good way to sort out most of the anti vax twats.
Giggsey supporting compulsory vaccination via the back door. (I don't mean being jabbed up the arse)

[Kikó]

Not in pregnant Women we don't, they weren't in the initial trials. Oops, I questioned it.

You're very clever.

[Giggles]

I’d love to see compulsory but very few countries would get away with it.

[Yevrah]

Absolutely loads could. Mostly second and third world admittedly, but that's a lot of countries.

[Yevrah]

Only for things young people like by the look of it (clubs mostly).

That will be where it starts, but I see Italy have just added bars and gyms too. Guess a few of their high ranking decision makers also have shares in Pharma companies.

[Yevrah]

And if we're doing those but not adding places of religious worship there's going to be uproar.

[Giggles]

We’ll have it to go inside for food and drink and then no vaccine you can stay outside. The last piece of legislation that needs to go through is so they can properly punish establishments that don’t ask for the cert.

[Yevrah]

And hell, we're basically doing it by stealth. The worst stealth ever used mind, but stealth nonetheless.

[Dquincy]

We’ll have it to go inside for food and drink and then no vaccine you can stay outside. The last piece of legislation that needs to go through is so they can properly punish establishments that don’t ask for the cert.
Are you maaaaad?

What about people who cannot have the vaccine for health reasons? Fuck em and leave them outside in the rain??

[Giggles]

There are very few people that genuinely can’t have the vaccine for health reasons. The rest are just the same as the cunts who also couldn’t wear a mask “for health reasons” and frankly, fuck them.

Nobody has to stay outside in the rain anyway, they can stay at home.

[Spikey M]

I don't agree with the passports, but if we are going down that route you can build in exemptions pretty easily.

[Yevrah]

They clearly don't matter as much as the people who're going to get filthy rich from continued and unnecessary vaccine use.

[Yevrah]

I don't agree with the passports, but if we are going down that route you can build in exemptions pretty easily.

Only through the people who are exempt having their own passport as to say why.

[Spikey M]

Only through the people who are exempt having their own passport as to say why.

Well yeah, but it's doable. It shouldn't be done, to be clear, but they could.

In other news, cases down 30% from last week. Good shit.

[Don]

You'd think the fucking obese alcoholic would have a bit more humility than to demand vaccine passports but here we are. Fuckface, if I wasn't already paying for your disgusting ass and lost 2 years of my life to your selfish disregard for your own health I might humour you.

[Yevrah]

After months of criticism about SAGE secrecy, the government reversed course this summer and began releasing the names of SAGE members, minutes of meetings, and some of its policy papers. Still, the government has refused to release to The BMJ the financial interest forms signed by SAGE members, leaving the public in the dark.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4716

Nothing to see here.


Days later, the Daily Mail broke another story, this time focusing on Bell. On top of his role with the Vaccine Taskforce, Bell also headed the National Covid Testing Scientific Advisory Panel and chaired the government’s new test approvals group. But the Mail discovered something The BMJ had first reported in 20129—that Bell had substantial financial interests, now amounting to £773 000 worth of shares, in pharma company Roche, which had sold the government £13.5m of antibody tests in May. Following the deal, Bell appeared on Channel 4 News and Radio 4’s Today, calling the tests a major step forward. Yet Public Health England found the tests unreliable.

The spokesperson added that the expert advisory group is not involved in commercial decision making, and that those involved must declare their conflicts of interest. The spokesperson did not respond to The BMJ’s request for copies of Bell’s declarations.

Or here.

[Giggles]

You'd think the fucking obese alcoholic would have a bit more humility than to demand vaccine passports but here we are. Fuckface, if I wasn't already paying for your disgusting ass and lost 2 years of my life to your selfish disregard for your own health I might humour you.

You don’t pay anything for me seeing as you live in a different country you fucking simple twat. Two years of your life is worth about as much as what I’d push out the day after a session and a kebab anyway.

[Yevrah]

Well yeah, but it's doable. It shouldn't be done, to be clear, but they could.

In other news, cases down 30% from last week. Good shit.

Of course. But we don't need to, a 30% decrease pretty much backs that up - There must be about 5% of adults left who haven't had COVID or the Vaccine - But we're still going to and you should really be asking why? In any other walk of life far more people would be.

[niko_cee]

Everyone with a pension has shares in BIG PHARMA.

And everything else.

High ranking people with more money than most having some is hardly revelatory, is it?

[Don]

You don’t pay anything for me seeing as you live in a different country you fucking simple twat. Two years of your life is worth about as much as what I’d push out the day after a session and a kebab anyway.

There's a fat useless fuck mouthing off in UK about this shit just as there's probably a bit of a don (not quite to these levels ofc) in that shithole country of yours sick to death of having to continually bend over backwards to accomodate you oaths. Think bigger than me vs you.

[niko_cee]

I think Giggles takes this round.

[Yevrah]

Everyone with a pension has shares in BIG PHARMA.

And everything else.

High ranking people with more money than most having some is hardly revelatory, is it?

Of course not, but when they have a conflict of interest when setting policy it becomes a problem. As I'm seeing now and the rest of you will soon.

[niko_cee]

I think the problem with your theory is that it is too grand. There is no great conspiracy to get rich off the back of an ever rolling vaccine program. There are far more banal ways to siphon from the public purse, which are ongoing to various industrial levels in most countries.

[Yevrah]

I think the problem with your theory is that it is too grand. There is no great conspiracy to get rich off the back of an ever rolling vaccine program. There are far more banal ways to siphon from the public purse, which are ongoing to various industrial levels in most countries.

Ok, so why are we insisting on vaccinating everyone when it manifestly isn't needed?

[niko_cee]

Because from a policy perspective it's the most expedient way out of everything being fucked up, even if clinical need (or whatever it is you are getting at) may not strictly demand it?

[phonics]

Of course not, but when they have a conflict of interest when setting policy it becomes a problem. As I'm seeing now and the rest of you will soon.

Yeah, no-one else has noticed that economic interests of the rich takes preference over everything else due to self interest and pocket stuffing. We just so happen to have been calling it the Second Gilded Age for years by coincidence.

Yev, if you’re really interested in it. Have a look at HIV treatment. It’s all a joke.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, no-one else has noticed that economic interests of the rich takes preference over everything else due to self interest and pocket stuffing. We just so happen to have been calling it the Second Gilded Age for years by coincidence.

I'm not suggesting it's a new thing, but does it not surprise you how there's such a lack of it here?

[niko_cee]

In local covid news our dear leaders have caved to public whingeing and are going to require proof of a negative test prior to travel/arrival from next week. Hopefully this rule fucks off by the time I am due to return at the end of August as I don't really fancy being relieved of £40 per person (or more) for a 'supervised lateral flow test'. I mean, what the fuck is that?

[Yevrah]

Because from a policy perspective it's the most expedient way out of everything being fucked up, even if clinical need (or whatever it is you are getting at) may not strictly demand it?

It's not a clinical need I'm getting at, it's actual science. We do not need to 'force' people to get vaccinated to get out of this. We've done enough already (when you factor in those who've had it as well), more than enough.

There is simply no reason to be doing this, so if it's not for money, why are we?

[niko_cee]

Politics/perceived public demand would be my guess propagated by everyone shitting their pants about cases when they really ought not etc.

[Dquincy]

There is simply no reason to be doing this, so if it's not for money, why are we?

The conspiracy theorists would say it's all part of the great reset and the government wanting all your information on a data passport and being able to control the population digitally (or something like that).

Sounds a bit looney to me.

[Dquincy]

There are very few people that genuinely can’t have the vaccine for health reasons. The rest are just the same as the cunts who also couldn’t wear a mask “for health reasons” and frankly, fuck them.

Nobody has to stay outside in the rain anyway, they can stay at home.

Telling them to stay at home is still discrimination, even if you do think they're cunts.

[niko_cee]

Just raise all the legal ages up to 30 or whatever.

[Yevrah]

The conspiracy theorists would say it's all part of the great reset and the government wanting all your information on a data passport and being able to control the population digitally (or something like that).

Sounds a bit looney to me.

To which I have said “they’ve got it all anyway”

[Yevrah]

How do you think we were stopping so many terrorist attacks before COVID?

[Kikó]

They were all false flag events obviously.

[Kikó]

I do like the logic that the vaccine is going to start killing off the global population as if the powers that be would 1) leave the troublesome questioners behind and kill off the compliant sheep and 2) crash the system that makes them shit loads of money and means they don't have to do the shit jobs like creating food or cleaning their mansions.

[Yevrah]

Yep. It’s all absolutely mental. Probably only beaten to worst conspiracy theory by the 5G bilge.

[Shindig]

How do you think we were stopping so many terrorist attacks before COVID?

"But what about the ones they didn't?" #RippleEffect #SpareChange :thinkingemoji:

[Lewis]

I felt a bit crap last night but I put it down to shitty sleep and running around moving all week. I felt alright today, went to work, and figured the tasteless sausage roll I had for dinner was just shit. My friend has sent me a pizza as a flatwarming thing, and I can barely taste it. I am otherwise fine though.

Fucking hell. I've seen loads of people this week moving. I'll be pinging half the city if I'm positive.

[Lewis]

The other problem is that I've been stoating round the office mask-free like the biggest man in the world, so certain nonces will want me on attempted murder charges.

[Kikó]

Welcome to the new world of tasteless food. Have you done a test yet?

[Lewis]

I have booked one for tomorrow. I can still taste a bit, but it's more like tasting saltiness/whatever than specifics.

[Spikey M]

Sounds pretty nailed on, Fluis.

[Giggles]

What’s going on that you’re all near getting it at the same time? Is it just the complete relaxation of restrictions there?

[Kikó]

I think it is basically that. Delta is rife.

[Spikey M]

What’s going on that you’re all near getting it at the same time? Is it just the complete relaxation of restrictions there?

It's absolutely fucking everywhere. But cases 30% down on last week, so seems we're past the peak.

[Magic]

I have booked one for tomorrow. I can still taste a bit, but it's more like tasting saltiness/whatever than specifics.

That's exactly it.

I did get an extremely faint whiff of deodorant today. :drool:

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57942217

1 in 75 people in England currently have Covid.

[Dquincy]

That's exactly it.

I did get an extremely faint whiff of deodorant today. :drool:

Glad to hear you're feeling better. You're one of the best posters on here.

[7om]

Fucking hell.

[Magic]

:D

[Baz]

What’s going on that you’re all near getting it at the same time? Is it just the complete relaxation of restrictions there?Not all, thanks. Only the delta males.

Immune alpha LADS are still enjoying tasty food and going outside.

[Kikó]

Careful farting around others. While you can't smell it, they definitely can.

[Jimmy Floyd]

At the moment I'm 95% convinced that the most recent spike (which is now receding) was pretty much entirely caused by our run in the European Championship. Southgate you're the one, murdering for fun, football's coming home again.

[Magic]

He barely killed anyone thanks to the vaccines.

[7om]

Well done, Magic. This is a big step for you.

[Queenslander]

If vaccine passports keep woohoo crystal people away from me I'm all on board.

[Queenslander]

Gold Standard as they have repeatedly told themselves through covid.


.Live breaking news: NSW records 163 new cases in worst day yet

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/live-breaking-news-cases-in-nsw-expected-to-rise-again/live-coverage/c27a6fcca5b7e11056b941781a15ad94


https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/wild-scenes-as-sydney-antilockdown-protesters-clash-with-police/news-story/e5b47e5103e55a7c6ebd1eb6d0094a78

Send in the Military

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-24/anti-covid-lockdown-protest-in-sydney-cbd/100320620?utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf247924195&utm_campaign=fb_abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf247924195=1

[Kikó]

3500 boofheads 😅

[Giggles]

Sweating like a rapist and every joint aches since yesterday. Supposedly only lasts through the day after the jab though. Passport landed already too, no messing about.

[Yevrah]

I had a day of bad and then a day of very tired. Not long left buddy.

[Giggles]

I had a day of bad and then a day of very tired. Not long left buddy.

Which one did you get? Mine was changed last minute (before the first one) from Pfizer to Moderna.

[Yevrah]

AZ.

[Kikó]

Guessing that was your first Giggs?

[Giggles]

No, my second and I’m actually surprised they managed to get them done 28 days apart. I think the dosage is 50:50 for that one but I was only wrecked tired after the first one.

[Yevrah]

Oh, my second AZ was much easier, but have heard the others are the other way around.

[Lewis]

I have woken up with more taste but a slightly stuffier head. More like normal cold feelings.

[Queenslander]

https://i.ibb.co/6126r64/FB-IMG-1627121251760.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

It isn't Fortress Australia it's Shambles Australia

[Don]

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Incredible scenes. Rumoured to be in excess of 9m people today at the protests.

[Bernanke]

The Trump flag is a nice touch.

[Manc]

Am I missing something? What are they protesting?

[Spikey M]

Am I missing something? What are they protesting?

The Vaccine Passport is no doubt their current excuse, but they'd still be there if absolutely everything returned to normal tomorrow.

[Dquincy]

Am I missing something? What are they protesting?

Vaccine passports, probably.

[Boydy]

There was one in Belfast too today.

Shoot them all.

[Don]

They'll need to once all you vaxxed sheep perish.

[Yevrah]

They're heroes and they're protesting the ongoing farce caused by weak government and SCIENCE.

[Queenslander]

There were heaps of anti BLM white fellas at the Brisbane one... :cab:

[Yevrah]

Hahahahahahahah


Double jab for football matches

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-57958278

I just keep knocking it out of the park.

[Queenslander]

That will be common place in the Western World.

[niko_cee]

That link no longer works but I was wondering about that (the football). Aren't children very much the fly in the ointment for all of this double jab business, I mean if we're not likely to vaccinate them are they going to be broadly excluded from society (perhaps some would say this would be a good idea) or are they going to be allowed to undermine covid security wherever their filthy hands please? On the specific football front, imagine the lasting damage excluding all under 18s from ever attending a game would do to fanbases, although, again, maybe that's part of THE PLAN.

[Spikey M]

That link no longer works but I was wondering about that (the football). Aren't children very much the fly in the ointment for all of this double jab business, I mean if we're not likely to vaccinate them are they going to be broadly excluded from society (perhaps some would say this would be a good idea) or are they going to be allowed to undermine covid security wherever their filthy hands please? On the specific football front, imagine the lasting damage excluding all under 18s from ever attending a game would do to fanbases, although, again, maybe that's part of THE PLAN.

Under 18's are exempt from isolating after returning from Amber list countries along side the double vaxxed. I imagine they'll just go down that road.

[niko_cee]

Then it just becomes an illogial/idiotic policy (not some great conspiracy) because you are basically exempting the largest pool of potential carriers from your daft measures (assuming by the end of September the UK is in the high 80s for vaccinated people - you'd assume the 88% first dosers would all turn into twojabfolk). It's paying lip service to the shrill but apparently potent zero covid minority but it just doesn't work. We're going down a similar route on travel here, government has recanted on its open border policy on Friday and said it'll 'sketch out the details' over the weekend/early next week. People are rightly furious. Learn to live with the virus they say, but it's getting to the point where talking a good game isn't enough.

[Yevrah]

Your post is actually the best argument ever for it being a conspiracy to push the vaccines as, as you say, it’s absolutely pointless.

[niko_cee]

Government is generally conducted by complete morons. I know it is a standard trope to think each iteration more feckless than the last, but we're reaching a nadir across the board. As an example, what the fuck was that "we don't need to isolate/secret daily test regime" bullshit Boris and Sunak rolled out last week? Was their 'chief advisor' (whoever that is) late for work or something? They obviously got in and said hang on you can't be doing this you dingbats . . .

It's probably another thing social media can be blamed for, or Tony Blair, I haven't worked out the exact dynamics.

[Yevrah]

I’m turning people. :drool:

[Spikey M]

Then it just becomes an illogial/idiotic policy (not some great conspiracy) because you are basically exempting the largest pool of potential carriers from your daft measures (assuming by the end of September the UK is in the high 80s for vaccinated people - you'd assume the 88% first dosers would all turn into twojabfolk). It's paying lip service to the shrill but apparently potent zero covid minority but it just doesn't work. We're going down a similar route on travel here, government has recanted on its open border policy on Friday and said it'll 'sketch out the details' over the weekend/early next week. People are rightly furious. Learn to live with the virus they say, but it's getting to the point where talking a good game isn't enough.

All granted and agreed. BUT is anywhere vaccinating the kids yet? Are any of the jabs tested on kids yet? I seem to remember one of them having their trial halted but I haven't heard anything since that.

[Spikey M]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortune.com/2021/07/23/covid-vaccines-for-kids-when-can-children-get-vaccinated/amp/

Looks like the over 12's are in some places, but the vaccines aren't approved for the unders.

[niko_cee]

The US is vaccinating above 12 I think, but my point wasn't that we ought to be doing that, but more that it is daft to pursue restrictive policies if you're exempting the largest 'danger group' from said restrictions, and if you aren't exempting them, well, that's quite a bold move.

[Yevrah]

We don’t need to be doing any of this. It’s madness.

[Dquincy]

Hahahahahahahah



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-57958278

I just keep knocking it out of the park.
This was reported a week or so ago, Yev.

[Yevrah]

This was reported a week or so ago, Yev.

And since then we've had a week of "I don't care about nightclub passports, that's all we'll have and I don't go to them".

Oh.

[Yevrah]

And anyway, fuck COVID and get in the sitcom thread.

[Yevrah]

But before we do, take a moment to bathe in the majesty of this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57958538

Can only assume Javid hasn't had the memo yet.

[Spikey M]

The US is vaccinating above 12 I think, but my point wasn't that we ought to be doing that, but more that it is daft to pursue restrictive policies if you're exempting the largest 'danger group' from said restrictions, and if you aren't exempting them, well, that's quite a bold move.

It's all designed to force the young (that can be vaccinated) into having the vaccines.

I don't agree with it, but I'm pretty sure that's the plan.

If you've had the jab, crack on, if you can't have the jab, crack on, if you can but you haven't, no nightclubs / football.

It's nuts, but it will be popular with a large percentage of voters.

[Jimmy Floyd]

1. Anyone who doesn't want the vaccine is thick.

2. Vaccine passports for pretty much anything are eye-wateringly authoritarian. However, if the last year has taught us anything it's that governments have realised they can get away with anything and what people want is draconian authoritarianism (for other people).

[Dquincy]

It's all designed to force the young (that can be vaccinated) into having the vaccines.

I don't agree with it, but I'm pretty sure that's the plan.

If you've had the jab, crack on, if you can't have the jab, crack on, if you can but you haven't, no nightclubs / football.

It's nuts, but it will be popular with a large percentage of voters.

Spikey last para is bang on. Whilst I personally do not agree with vaccine passports and think it's a slippery slope, I feel the vast majority of the UK will be all for it as they've been brainwashed into being so fearful of covid.

[phonics]

2. Vaccine passports for pretty much anything are eye-wateringly authoritarian. However, if the last year has taught us anything it's that governments have realised they can get away with anything and what people want is draconian authoritarianism (for other people).

This line confuses me as I've had a Vaccine passport since I was 11.

Looks like the thing on the right:

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/54075bc0e4b010adbe14e8f3/1617905337090-X7CQXVEYGZ6P2DZ98RY6/markus-winkler-cO3mYlCBxzU-unsplash.jpg

[Dquincy]

And anyway, fuck COVID and get in the sitcom thread.

I'm sorry, that thread is not for me.

[Kikó]

They're heroes and they're protesting the ongoing farce caused by weak government and SCIENCE.

They're absolutely not heroes.

Here's an analysis of the 'grass roots movement' https://www.logically.ai/articles/anti-lockdown-protests-organized-by-german-cell?hs_amp=true

These are dangerous and radicalised people who are literally believing anything they watch in YouTube videos. It's a massive psychological operation.

[Magic]

The conspiracy theorists ARE the conspiracy?

[phonics]

The conspiracy theorists ARE the conspiracy?

Long been part of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

[Disco]

I love Gladio, where literally every conspiracy theory is 100% true.

[phonics]

I love Gladio, where literally every conspiracy theory is 100% true.

I think it's quite well summed up that this entirely factual event was lead by someone called 'Major Gubbins'

[Kikó]

The conspiracy theorists ARE the conspiracy?

The mass release of conspiracy videos and movements are born from a lot of money and actually linked to people in the US military like General Flynn so I'd say yes.

[phonics]

I’d say Flynn is a bad example as he’s actually a better example of how even supposedly respectable people can also be radicalised by the same things. He’s just a dumbass. If you look into the covid stuff it’s something like 98% of the nonsense is about 8-10 people and then filtered through networks. Who’s funding it, I’m not quite sure.

[Spikey M]

There was a documentary on the BBC a while back about Andrew Wakefield and who is funding him. It's depressingly big business and they have people literally drinking bleach instead of seeing doctors over there.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0008rvk

No longer on iPlayer but it must be available somewhere.

[Kikó]

Maybe Yev can tap into the conspiracy network for his post production work.

[Kikó]

One article here on disinformation: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-57928647

[Magic]

I think it's quite well summed up that this entirely factual event was lead by someone called 'Major Gubbins'

:baz:

[Lewis]

I am positive, so if we say symptoms started Friday (I was unusually knackered Thursday really but put it down to shitty heat sleep and moving), I have to isolate now until next Monday. I was also due to get my second vaccine that day, so that might need putting back.

[Don]

On the plus side you've avoided a near death [by mild coughing] experience thanks to the first jab.

[Ian]

I think when I checked you're not meant to have a vaccine within 4 weeks of a positive test? I'm gonna have to put mine back a little.

[Kikó]

I think that's right, 28 days after.

I've started to regain my sense of smell and taste albeit only slight. I've been negative on the lateral flows for three days and my normal energy has pretty much returned from Wednesday evening.

Hope it passes quickly Lewis.

[niko_cee]

These stories (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57958358) along with deathbed conversions about wishing they'd had the vaccine seem to be becoming more prominent so maybe the media Illuminati tide is turning.

[Spikey M]

I think when I checked you're not meant to have a vaccine within 4 weeks of a positive test? I'm gonna have to put mine back a little.

They let me and didn't care when I called in to check. They just said the side effects may be a bit worse. I think you're right though, it's meant to be a month.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, they're starting to tell the truth about all walks of religious pastors and not just the ones from Alabama.

[Magic]

Anyone else see the rewards for being healthy tracking system touted by the Tories? :D

[Kikó]

Doesn't sound much different to insurance schemes like vitality.

[Magic]

Doesn't sound much different to insurance schemes like vitality.

But that's fair enough as it's private insurance you opt in to.

I myself would like to see people like Mahow punished, rather than demi-gods like myself, Taz and DQ rewarded. It's rewarding enough.

[Don]

At this point, these brainwashed melts will downplay the introduction of mandatory giving of oral sex to any male authority that turns up on their door because it's not all that different to the twister ice creams we were all carelessly enjoying in 2019.

Re-reading this thread is gonna be absolute dynamite to see how people can be made to fall into order.

[Magic]

Just walked past an empty mobile testing unit outside my young uns school.

4 vans. 8 people standing in the sun. Public money.

[Kikó]

But that's fair enough as it's private insurance you opt in to.

I myself would like to see people like Mahow punished, rather than demi-gods like myself, Taz and DQ rewarded. It's rewarding enough.

No, I agree with you. I think it's overreach and kite flying from the government by putting an idea into their pet newspaper. Personally, I think anything like that should be avoided.

[Don]

Apparently there's been an economic impact for all the dogshit apps, awareness campaigns, sanitary measures, testing kits, lockdown health impacts and invitations of fraud:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/25/britain-faces-decades-of-financial-risk-as-370bn-pandemic-bill-mounts

But everyone thinks it's all hunky dory because their current accounts are sitting flush after breaking their meaningless cycle of consumerism for a short intake of breath.

[Spikey M]

I'm sitting pretty and can't wait for years of record level inflation to undo it all. :drool:

[Magic]

About to buy a house far above my station. :drool:

[Lewis]

I told the people I've seen this week that I have tested positive, and they mostly told me not to give their details to the contact tracing. Fair enough. The tracing people have just rang me, and when I said I'm not passing all my contacts on who asked me not to, they said they're putting me down as 'refusing to co-operate'. In that case then fuck off I'll go down the sauna.

[Kikó]

You could have just lied you know...

[Lewis]

You don't want to get into that habit.

[Kikó]

I didn't actually speak to an actual person when I completed the who were you in contact with part of T&T. They've only rang me once to tell me to isolate and one email since (in 5 days). Pretty lightweight.

[Shindig]

You were double jabbed at that point, weren't you?

[7om]

Lewis in the gulag :drool:

[Lewis]

Any Gestapo slags coming round here hassling me will be getting two jabs don't you worry about that boys.

[Shindig]

Just give them your old address.

[Kikó]

You were double jabbed at that point, weren't you?

Yep.

[Shindig]

That might have been a factor then. I went to see my folks yesterday and, as usual there was nobody on reception at weekends. They also had all the doors open to get to the apartments. I could've walked straight up there had I not rang my dad ahead of time to meet me downstairs.

I did offer to show a staff member my negative test but she just shrugged and went, "Aye, don't worry about it." How times have changed.

[Spikey M]

That might have been a factor then. I went to see my folks yesterday and, as usual there was nobody on reception at weekends. They also had all the doors open to get to the apartments. I could've walked straight up there had I not rang my dad ahead of time to meet me downstairs.

I did offer to show a staff member my negative test but she just shrugged and went, "Aye, don't worry about it." How times have changed.

In other news, when walking through the Lemur enclosure at the Zoo yesterday everyone had to wear a mask, because Lemurs are primates and primates can catch Covid.

They weren't social distancing either, the dirty bastards.

[Yevrah]

In other news, when walking through the Lemur enclosure at the Zoo yesterday everyone had to wear a mask, because Lemurs are primates and primates can catch Covid.

They weren't social distancing either, the dirty bastards.

:lol:

You couldn't make this stuff up.

[Shindig]

It's all fun and games until one of those escapes. There once was a spider who infected a fly, perhaps we'll die.

With the case numbers coming down, I'll decided to look at the hospital numbers. They're not always up to date so I just picked their last available numbers and took them week-on-week

1st July - 411 rise
8th July - 826 rise
15th July - 1251 rise
22nd July - 1000 rise

Real early to tell but could that be turning a corner?

[Dquincy]

But that's fair enough as it's private insurance you opt in to.

I myself would like to see people like Mahow punished, rather than demi-gods like myself, Taz and DQ rewarded. It's rewarding enough.

:D

[niko_cee]

It's all fun and games until one of those escapes. There once was a spider who infected a fly, perhaps we'll die.

With the case numbers coming down, I'll decided to look at the hospital numbers. They're not always up to date so I just picked their last available numbers and took them week-on-week

1st July - 411 rise
8th July - 826 rise
15th July - 1251 rise
22nd July - 1000 rise

Real early to tell but could that be turning a corner?

Guess we're through the worst of the Southgate Spike.

[Shindig]

Consider that the bus parade.

[Luke Emia]

We will see I suppose what happens with everything being open of cases don’t massively increase after say next weekend then things will look pretty ok save for all the other Covid things people tell us to worry about.

The point is though that if cases don’t increase in the next few weeks when are the media and the government going to deal with the actual elephant in the room which is children and schools?

[Spikey M]

I think they're just going to make everyone under 18 exempt from everything, then say the double jabbed don't have to isolate etc.

I think this shit is just going to die with a whimper rather than a clear line being drawn in the sand. People will gradually just stop getting tested / isolating etc and eventually policy will catch up.

[Yevrah]

I think this shit is just going to die with a whimper rather than a clear line being drawn in the sand. People will gradually just stop getting tested / isolating etc and eventually policy will catch up.

That would probably actually be the best face-saving move for all parties concerned at this point. Myself included.

[Magic]

Furlough ending will be the end of the bed wetting in the private sector, at least. Public will be milking this for fucking years.

[Luke Emia]

Furlough needs to be ended now and should have ended on the 19th unless you are one of the very small number of businesses that can’t be open at the minute.

Right now it’s a load of company directors who are technically employees of their limited company just being on furlough to claim some free money.

[Spikey M]

Furlough ending/easing is predictably leading to a ridiculous number of people losing their jobs. I had atleast 5 calls on that subject last week alone.

With unemployment, record arrears levels and evictions back up and running alongside an already well established housing crisis, the good times are just getting started. Covid needs to take a back seat and this shit needs to be addressed, pronto.

[Yevrah]

Yep, there's been so little coverage of the financial hardship this has caused people, which really isn't on.

[Shindig]

I'm not entirely sure on the furlough stuff. Are places operating at pre-pandemic staff levels? I find that unlikely given how slow things have been to get done in the last year. Even from our perspective, we'll be staffing the assessment centres back up to see claimants in person.

[Yevrah]

The overnight news from the US looks like they are also shitting the bed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57962387

The title on that graph. :sick:

[Disco]

Their issues with idiocy are far worse than ours, even the GOP has realised their insane stance is literally only killing their own voters.

[Spikey M]

The drop in our numbers is pretty impressive. The Southgate Spike was mental.

[Shindig]

I thought they'd beat us to the finish line but that vaccine graph bloody flatlines. Doesn't help that Dr. Fauci's been somewhat vilified.

[Yevrah]

The drop in our numbers is pretty impressive. The Southgate Spike was mental.

Well it's clearly flatlined, but they're only lagging behind us and Canada for first doses and then you read this:


More than 162.7 million people - or 49% of the population - have been fully vaccinated in the US, official data shows.

So presumably with the remaining second shots to go they'll be at 60% of everyone (a higher % for just adults), chuck in those that already have immunity from catching the damn thing and they'll in the same boat we are. A boat which should be called "this is now over".

[Spikey M]

I mean our case numbers. Down from ~48,000 a day to ~25,000 a day in a week.

I'm not watching the Yanks as I just assume they're a shitshow at all times anyway. It's a good system.

[Yevrah]

I mean our case numbers. Down from ~48,000 a day to ~25,000 a day in a week.

I'm not watching the Yanks as I just assume they're a shitshow at all times anyway. It's a good system.

My cousin is in Chicago with his family and I met him at my Gran's funeral a few weeks ago. He said it's all dependent on where you are. I can't recall the figures, but Chicago was nailing it. He, for example, at 38, had already been double jabbed. He then went on to talk about bible belt type places and said, "well, I'm just glad I don't live in one of those".

So in Chicago at least, if this were to run to its logical conclusion, it'd be almost pointless and piss a lot of people off.


He said health officials were considering revising mask guidance for vaccinated Americans to curb cases.

[Spikey M]

That always seems to be the way over there. The big cities are pretty normal (albeit with third world murder rates), it's the likes of Bumblefuck, Alabama that drag the whole country town.

[Kikó]

Fox news has only recently stopped calling the vaccine poison so that might help.

[Queenslander]

Sky News Australia is still pumping out anti vax, anti lockdown propaganda.


https://youtu.be/4mvNBh53_d4

[Raoul Duke]

The US map of vaccine hesitancy is the same as it is for Republican voters. Morons gonna moron

[randomlegend]

We don't have many but apparently all our recent, sick covid admissions are young people (not children).

[Don]

Are they all rotund greasy gammons and/or filthy south asians?

[Yevrah]

Labour, after rejecting vaccine passports as unworkable, have seemingly come up with a worse idea:


"We should be encouraging people to get the vaccine as soon as they possibly can, and also encouraging people to take regular tests as well," she says. "Because that is how we keep control of the virus.

"Of course, even with the two vaccines you can still get Covid, so therefore testing has got to be an important part of that scheme."

I say worse, because if you're asking me to test myself regularly having been double jabbed (presumably until COVID's gone), I'll be doing so for the rest of my life.

[randomlegend]

Are they all rotund greasy gammons and/or filthy south asians?

Dunno mate they don't put average BMI in the emails.

[Don]

Well tell them to rectify that, emailing people with selective data points is not good for anyone.

[Magic]

6 million positive tests and only 23000 repeat infections, believe there's no record of anyone getting it thrice?

[Dquincy]

6 day in a row where new cases have dropped.

Not to jinx it, but struggling to see how we will hit 100,000 a day over the summer. (Ref https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/06/covid-cases-rise-above-100000-a-day-sajid-javid-concedes-england )

[Andrew]

SAGE getting it wrong again.

Colour me shocked.

[Shindig]

To be fair, they saw that line going up and thought, "Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck."

[Kikó]

There models do seem to be generally massively pessimistic.

[Yevrah]

There models do seem to be generally massively pessimistic.

One of them a while ago (that I bothered to read the assumptions of) had actually ignored vaccines. They're a sham.

[Don]

If I don't start to see cases popping in exactly 1.5 weeks time, I will not only watch with glee as twitter carries out its mental gymnastics routine to avoid sucking Boris' shaft but I'll also be even more certain we were completely unnecesarily deprived of our beloved clubs.

[Magic]

Down in Durham for a week. Absolutely loving not wearing a mask. Only disgusting unfit gremlins, coffin dodgers, guardian readers and limp wristed students wearing them. :harold:

[Spikey M]

https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-as-stretched-now-as-it-was-in-january-health-leaders-say-12364762

Autumn is going to be amazing. :drool:

[Don]

Crying about the backlog and staff holidays :D These cretins in the leadership teams of NHS are truly a mess.

[Spikey M]

We need to be really, really careful about locking down again. This shit can't become the norm.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not a chance we're locking down again. It's just the same geezer as always pitching for cash. He does the same media round about once a fortnight.

[Manc]

It's over isnt it?

[Baz]

Even the North East's numbers are coming down.

Beginning of the end, lads (in a good way).

Also I'm going to a wedding in 10 days. The groom tested positive for covid yesterday. :harold: Nearly!

[Shindig]

Down in Durham for a week. Absolutely loving not wearing a mask. Only disgusting unfit gremlins, coffin dodgers, guardian readers and limp wristed students wearing them. :harold:

Damn, I could’ve said hi. And you’re right. Even the oldies wearing them have them on their chins.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just had my second jab, now we wait and see if I keel over. Was fine the first time. Thinking three days in bed this time.

[Spikey M]

I had headache and weak legs for about a day. Fresh as a daisy the following day.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They told me to stay hydrated and also to stay off the booze for 24 hours. Have emailed the Yale computer science department to run that equation on the models and advise next steps.

[Disco]

Did they specify which 24 hours?

[Magic]

Damn, I could’ve said hi. And you’re right. Even the oldies wearing them have them on their chins.

Are you here?

[Yevrah]

I’m playing golf right now and I’d just like to say that anyone who was involved in the decision to close courses at any point during the pandemic is an absolute psychopath.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Come on Yev, even I've never posted from the golf course.

It was very much a case of banning all fun - as soon as you let some people have their fun, then other people will want to have theirs too.

[Spikey M]

Alot of the rules we followed, especially in the early days, are going to age hilariously.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That period where I didn't see any friends or family for 70 days, but did see 3 office colleagues and myriad petrol station attendants / supermarket cashiers, and wasn't wearing a mask for any of it, was definitely a stretch that will go down in the annals.

[Kikó]

I’m playing golf right now and I’d just like to say that anyone who was involved in the decision to close courses at any point during the pandemic is an absolute psychopath.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dfDD7dX3l14/maxresdefault.jpg

[SvN]

Ice white shoes, ice white socks with navy blue double cadet stripes, shorts, t-shirt with chevron action flash, and a tossed pink sweater.

I'm on the golf course, and nothing's going to stop me.

[Yevrah]

Come on Yev, even I've never posted from the golf course.

To be fair, my mate was practicing his drives on the last hole of an empty course while I posted.

[Lewis]

Have you taken your comedy notebook?

[Giggles]

Come on Yev, even I've never posted from the golf course.

It was very much a case of banning all fun - as soon as you let some people have their fun, then other people will want to have theirs too.

It was the correct decision to do so. Helped keep the maximum number in check.

[Shindig]

Are you here?

Nah, I’m back home now. Came into the office for an interview and shot back home sharpish.

[Magic]

:(

Though I'm not sure I could have justified breaking up my family holiday to meet an internet stranger.

[Baz]

Alot of the rules we followed, especially in the early days, are going to age hilariously.And they actually reduced the prices of all the food in restaurants to make you want to go?
That’s right.
…and spread covid?
Yep.
Did you get it?
:lol: No. You see, I’m not a beta cuck and never have been.

[Spikey M]

And they actually reduced the prices of all the food in restaurants to make you want to go?
That’s right.
…and spread covid?
Yep.
Did you get it?
:lol: No. You see, I’m not a beta cuck and never have been.

:D

So you could take Nan to Lunch?

Yes son. And on the log flume at Thorpe Park.

but you couldn't have lunch round her house?

Now you're getting it.

[Yevrah]

Have you taken your comedy notebook?

No comedy inspiration to be had on a golf course.

[Giggles]

You’ve never seen me play.