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If it stays like this for longer than 2 weeks, there's a good chance I can approve your membership Keeks :cool:
What a fucking night, comin out the sauna, saw a couple of BLM strippies with booties the size of [insert fat TTH member's name here]'s mum who were heading to their stripclub for their first shift of the new era. And then saved countless lives off my own bat by wearing a muzzle in waitrose. God bless freedom day.
Spikey M
19-07-2021, 09:06 PM
The local pub is closed after a fairly hefty outbreak apparently. All staff isolating.
The local shop and hairdressers both have OTT signs advising that masks are still required and they will throw acid in the face of any rule breakers.
The joy of living somewhere with an average age of 112.
Waffdon
19-07-2021, 09:07 PM
Swift edit lad
When’s big nic dropping our masks?
I only really ever go into a supermarket or gym and majority still using. I bloody hate having to wear one in the gym though (when wandering about, not actually exercising) and the thing is near suffocating once you’re done a decent workout.
Won’t be upset to see them go.
Yeah mate, as long as you can breathe easy, don't worry about the safety of Magic and Keeks. Fucking prick.
Dark Soldier
19-07-2021, 10:00 PM
When’s big nic dropping our masks?
I only really ever go into a supermarket or gym and majority still using. I bloody hate having to wear one in the gym though (when wandering about, not actually exercising) and the thing is near suffocating once you’re done a decent workout.
Won’t be upset to see them go.
Fucking get on the Maccies diet ya selfish twat. Fuck a gym boy.
Not literally, unless that's your thing these days. The onesie always gave me an inkling, fair play if so.
Dquincy
19-07-2021, 10:34 PM
If it stays like this for longer than 2 weeks, there's a good chance I can approve your membership Keeks :cool:
What a fucking night, comin out the sauna, saw a couple of BLM strippies with booties the size of [insert fat TTH member's name here]'s mum who were heading to their stripclub for their first shift of the new era. And then saved countless lives off my own bat by wearing a muzzle in waitrose. God bless freedom day.
I found myself inside a gay spa in the depths of Soho today. Was not expecting to see the amount of cock and balls that I saw this afternoon.
Boydy
19-07-2021, 10:59 PM
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Why was there an anti-lockdown protest today? :cab:
Because if it wasn't for those heroes, we'd all be left watching your melty arse take the full shaft deep and slow with no resistance.
Says the bloke who’s been taking it deep and slow for the last 18 months and waiting for everyone else to kickstart the revolution.
Queenslander
19-07-2021, 11:32 PM
Just got home from my 1st Pfyzer. Second dose is in an outer suburb. :moop:
Offshore Toon
19-07-2021, 11:52 PM
Taste and smell gone now. That's the only thing I was concerned about but it isn't that bad. Marmite still works, thank god, but everything else is just meh.
Queenslander
20-07-2021, 01:47 AM
Western Australia has put wall up to the rest of Australia.
South Australia have gone into a full lockdown.
Victoria and NSW are fucked and in lockdown.
Queensland... Nothing life is normal it doesn't make sense
The local pub is closed after a fairly hefty outbreak apparently. All staff isolating.
The local shop and hairdressers both have OTT signs advising that masks are still required and they will throw acid in the face of any rule breakers.
The joy of living somewhere with an average age of 112.
Where are you living now then, that doesn't sound like Southend.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 05:44 AM
Where are you living now then, that doesn't sound like Southend.
Barling
And your mother's maiden name?
Yevrah
20-07-2021, 06:19 AM
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Why was there an anti-lockdown protest today? :cab:
Because there’s almost no chance we won’t be back in lockdown at some point during the autumn/winter.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 06:19 AM
Your dads surname is Mouse, that's all you need to know.
Yevrah
20-07-2021, 06:21 AM
I went to my local for lunch yesterday. Gone were the Argos pencils and scraps of paper to put your contact details on and there were even people stood at the bar.
It was amazing.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 06:22 AM
OR because they're a load of sad old conspiracy cunts.
Yevrah
20-07-2021, 06:27 AM
OR because they're a load of sad old conspiracy cunts.
Well quite, but no one else is doing anything to demonstrate against lockdown so I’ll take their conspiracy wank motivations over everyone else’s apathy.
I’m not quite sure people appreciate what a ludicrous and terrifying precedent it would set if we’re put back into lockdown this winter.
Dquincy
20-07-2021, 06:45 AM
Well quite, but no one else is doing anything to demonstrate against lockdown so I’ll take their conspiracy wank motivations over everyone else’s apathy.
I’m not quite sure people appreciate what a ludicrous and terrifying precedent it would set if we’re put back into lockdown this winter.
So you're worried about the "terrifying precedent" of another lockdown, but not vaccine passports to get into a club (...or potentially a pub)?
That latter is far more worrying imo. Especially when the f ing vaccines do not stop transmission.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 07:00 AM
Someone's been on YouTube again.
The vaccine does reduce transmission significantly.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 07:20 AM
But it doesn't stop it and it isn't 100% effective at stopping people dying so get it in the bin. There's no room for partial effectiveness in my binary world tyvm.
Dquincy
20-07-2021, 07:20 AM
It does (slightly) reduce it yes, but it certainly doesn't stop it. Look at the figures doing the rounds at the mo.
If it was a magic bullet that stopped transmission in it's tracks then I could understand it, but this Delta variant is just as rife amongst the vaccinated as it is the unvaccinated.
It's a carrot dangling over the youngsters who aren't that bothered about getting vaxed.
Magic
20-07-2021, 07:22 AM
The vaccine does reduce transmission significantly.
:baz:
The counter troll.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 07:24 AM
It does (slightly) reduce it yes, but it certainly doesn't stop it. Look at the figures doing the rounds at the mo.
If it was a magic bullet that stopped transmission in it's tracks then I could understand it, but this Delta variant is just as rife amongst the vaccinated as it is the unvaccinated.
It's a carrot dangling over the youngsters who aren't that bothered about getting vaxed.
The youngsters that aren't bothered about getting vaxxed aren't arsed about catching it, so how does that work?
Our deaths are <10% of what they were during the last wave with a similar case load. That's all that matters really.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 07:25 AM
It does (slightly) reduce it yes, but it certainly doesn't stop it. Look at the figures doing the rounds at the mo.
If it was a magic bullet that stopped transmission in it's tracks then I could understand it, but this Delta variant is just as rife amongst the vaccinated as it is the unvaccinated.
It's a carrot dangling over the youngsters who aren't that bothered about getting vaxed.
The youngsters that aren't bothered about getting vaxxed aren't arsed about catching it, so how does that work?
Our deaths are <10% of what they were during the last wave with a similar case load. That's all that matters really.
Yevrah
20-07-2021, 07:42 AM
So you're worried about the "terrifying precedent" of another lockdown, but not vaccine passports to get into a club (...or potentially a pub)?
That latter is far more worrying imo. Especially when the f ing vaccines do not stop transmission.
Where did I say I wasn't worried about that? Oh, I didn't, you've made it up.
It does (slightly) reduce it yes, but it certainly doesn't stop it. Look at the figures doing the rounds at the mo.
If it was a magic bullet that stopped transmission in it's tracks then I could understand it, but this Delta variant is just as rife amongst the vaccinated as it is the unvaccinated.
It's a carrot dangling over the youngsters who aren't that bothered about getting vaxed.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/one-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-can-cut-household-transmission-by-up-to-half
60-65% is significant.
It does (slightly) reduce it yes, but it certainly doesn't stop it. Look at the figures doing the rounds at the mo.
If it was a magic bullet that stopped transmission in it's tracks then I could understand it, but this Delta variant is just as rife amongst the vaccinated as it is the unvaccinated.
It's a carrot dangling over the youngsters who aren't that bothered about getting vaxed.
Because the absolute numbers of fully/partially vaccinated far outweighs the totally unvaccinated. It’s the ratio that matters. I keep telling you this.
Shindig
20-07-2021, 07:57 AM
The youngsters that aren't bothered about getting vaxxed aren't arsed about catching it, so how does that work?
They're not all drinking at home. How else are they going to pick up a weekend shag? Jab up, club up, drug up, fuck up. Stick that on a billboard, Boris.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 08:00 AM
They're not all drinking at home. How else are they going to pick up a weekend shag? Jab up, club up, drug up, fuck up. Stick that on a billboard, Boris.
Which is fine, but Quince seemed to be implying that the vaccine reducing transmission was the carrot.
It is very transparent why he's insisting on 2 jabs for club entry, yeah. I don't like it, but I do get why they're doing it.
Shindig
20-07-2021, 08:33 AM
Well, apparently Vallance misspoke and corrected himself to say 60% of all hospitalisations were in the unvaccinated.
Magic
20-07-2021, 08:35 AM
And 40% of the vaccinated ones will be old disabled folks that would have died otherwise. Open the clubs.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 08:49 AM
The more I think about this vaccine passports for clubs stuff, the more I'm against it. Why are these measures needed amongst the least vulnerable? Wouldn't they be more useful at Bingo halls and knitting clubs or wherever old people go?
It just feels like another excuse for old cunts to kick young cunts.
niko_cee
20-07-2021, 09:03 AM
They're obviously massively unfair (and probably discriminatory - especially when it turns out race is a major overlap factor with 'vaccine hesitancy'), and it's such a blunt instrument to try and force people to do something that I wouldn't be surprised if the idea goes in the bin fairly sharpish. Not least because by opening the clubs now aren't a massive number of these currently unvaccinated people just going to contract covid (and thereby develop immunity) in the interim anyway?
Jab up, club up, drug up, fuck up.
To the tune of.....
https://youtu.be/gAjR4_CbPpQ
They're obviously massively unfair (and probably discriminatory - especially when it turns out race is a major overlap factor with 'vaccine hesitancy'), and it's such a blunt instrument to try and force people to do something that I wouldn't be surprised if the idea goes in the bin fairly sharpish. Not least because by opening the clubs now aren't a massive number of these currently unvaccinated people just going to contract covid (and thereby develop immunity) in the interim anyway?
I think it's Johnson's version of the Macron heavy handed approach. Get the youth to take up their vaccine then pull the idea and pretend it was never an actual policy and just advice/guidance.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 09:54 AM
Thing is, if I was hesitant to get it, this shit would convince me definitely not to.
Dunno. I don't know what the motivating factors are behind hesitancy.
Magic
20-07-2021, 10:15 AM
The lies, deception, harmlessness of it all maybe?
Dquincy
20-07-2021, 10:41 AM
The youngsters that aren't bothered about getting vaxxed aren't arsed about catching it, so how does that work?
Our deaths are <10% of what they were during the last wave with a similar case load. That's all that matters really.
The youngsters want to hit the clubs though. But they can't if they aren't jabbed. Here lies the carrot.
Dquincy
20-07-2021, 10:43 AM
Where did I say I wasn't worried about that? Oh, I didn't, you've made it up.
Are you worried about vaccine passports?
Yes or no flip-flop boy?
Dquincy
20-07-2021, 10:44 AM
Because the absolute numbers of fully/partially vaccinated far outweighs the totally unvaccinated. It’s the ratio that matters. I keep telling you this.
Ratio
Dquincy
20-07-2021, 10:45 AM
They're not all drinking at home. How else are they going to pick up a weekend shag? Jab up, club up, drug up, fuck up. Stick that on a billboard, Boris.
That's a cracking slogan, to be fair.
Yevrah
20-07-2021, 10:49 AM
I do feel for the young uns. They've had it far worse than anyone else throughout this, even including the old and unwell who've died from it. When you're 16, two years of your life is 12.5% of it and they've lost all that, not to mention an education during it as well as learning vital social skills.
Those who were partying on the beach during spring break last year absolutely had the right idea.
Lewis
20-07-2021, 11:07 AM
I do feel for the young uns. They've had it far worse than anyone else throughout this, even including the old and unwell who've died from it. When you're 16, two years of your life is 12.5% of it and they've lost all that, not to mention an education during it as well as learning vital social skills.
Those who were partying on the beach during spring break last year absolutely had the right idea.
And they get to pay extra National Insurance to pay for giant pension rises and stamp duty holidays lmao.
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 11:16 AM
"Well, I'd like to see Boris Johnson wriggle out of THIS one"
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Boris SLAMS moaning doctors.
Cumdog came out yesterday and claimed Bojo wasn't fussed about killing the Queen via covid. I'd bank on that being true. I'd also bank on the GREAT BRITISH PUBLIC not giving a shit.
I'l be in a 1,000 capacity venue on Saturday of no doubt largely unvaccinated heads. Be a good test of where my antibodies/T-cells/manhood is at.
The melts have brought in a requirement of needing to be:
- double-vaccinated
- tested positive within last 180 days (what?) And finished isolating
- a negative test within last 48 hours
I've investigated and you actually need a valid test code that is on the lateral flows in order to succesfully log on https://www.gov.uk/report-covid19-result and provide the proof necessary for entry so I'm gonna take 50 tests to the venue and be the hero of the day.
Cumdog came out yesterday and claimed Bojo wasn't fussed about killing the Queen via covid. I'd bank on that being true. I'd also bank on the GREAT BRITISH PUBLIC not giving a shit.
The Queen > anyone in government > rest of the royals
Spikey M
20-07-2021, 02:40 PM
Everyone featured in that list is shit though
Disco
20-07-2021, 02:45 PM
Now we've done Brexit shouldn't they all go back to Germany where they came from?
Queenslander
21-07-2021, 12:45 AM
Watch him win NSW next election.
https://i.ibb.co/P5m7cFK/Screenshot-20210721-104240.png (https://ibb.co/p30tfbc)
Very accurate run down on how he fucked this up.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/report-you-have-well-and-truly-fucked-this-one-mate/
niko_cee
21-07-2021, 06:19 AM
I can never quite work out if the Betoota Advocate is an Onion style thing or if it is serious, I guess the latter but it always seems somewhat of a parody [but not really in any way actually funny].
Queenslander
21-07-2021, 06:42 AM
Half and half these days.
Positive on the PCR test for me, wife is negative. Another 5 days of isolation ahead but hopefully the symptoms (tiredness, lack of smell) will subside.
The euro final was basically a mass super spreading event. My whole table all have tested +ve.
Shindig
21-07-2021, 08:21 AM
Must've been a lot of sloppy drunks.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 08:30 AM
I know of more people that have it now than during the whole rest of the Pandemic put together.
Completed my first trip to the supermarket post freedom day. Masks all round except for one demographic, men in their twenties. Can confirm all were rock hard.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 08:53 AM
I went to the shop yesterday and it feels like more people are wearing masks now than when they were meant to. :D
Is this the ultimate exercise in reverse psychology?
I definitely feel more at ease with wearing them now. Courtesy over control.
I went to the shop after playing golf yesterday and didn't have one on me. I was the only person not wearing one and definitely got a few dirty looks.
randomlegend
21-07-2021, 09:30 AM
I still haven't done a test :uhoh:
They're bringing in LAMP testing at work so that run may be about to come to an end.
Jimmy Floyd
21-07-2021, 09:32 AM
I'm going to have to do a test at the weekend, because I'm driving some melt down to Kent and he insists I test negative before he gets in my car.
I had a good run.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 09:35 AM
Lol fuck that. I'd be inviting him to get a train.
-james-
21-07-2021, 09:43 AM
Had my second Pfizer yesterday. Feeling dandy. :cool:
randomlegend
21-07-2021, 09:44 AM
Yeah, offer to strap him to your roof rack Jim.
Andrew
21-07-2021, 09:55 AM
I know I've had a bit of a rant over covid lately, but it's the sheer insanity of the rules that are driving me insane the fact that there seems to be no rhyme or reason to any of the rules and the idiocy of people that have had fear drilled into their fragile minds for the past 16 months that's wearing me down.
Went to McDonald's yesterday and was told to place an order on one of the vending machines to which I then was told it's safer this way because of the spread of covid...
5 people in front of me used the same machine before it was wiped over.
Then on leaving the place I went to walk out the door which was less than 7 feet away to be stopped and told to follow the one way system which basically made me lap the entire building and virtually brought me back to the same spot I was stopped at.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 10:07 AM
McDonald's having retarded company policy isn't really anything to do with rules.
Boydy
21-07-2021, 10:20 AM
Surface transmission is negligible. How do people still not understand this?
niko_cee
21-07-2021, 10:22 AM
Anyone not using the McDonalds app to order and then have them bring it out to you in the car park [I stood in one of those park and collect bays with a buggy last time I think] is obviously failing at life. Obviously, no car park still use the app and bypass the queuing to go in and pick up your order.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 10:23 AM
To be fair, the government are (were?) still running with "hands, face, space" which isn't helpful.
It's not in a youtube video. Boydy
I think the issue is when using terms like 'negligible'/'low risk', you can't get across a clear meaning. There's also debatable evidence on mask wearing but some will cut off their dicks to defend them.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 10:40 AM
Surface transmission is negligible. How do people still not understand this?
The "it lives on wood, plastic and steel for 8 days" that was released last year is solely to blame for that. People heard it first and can't shake it.
I still wash all my grocery in the bath with bleach.
Raoul Duke
21-07-2021, 10:54 AM
I still wash all my grocery in the bath with bleach.
I just take a shot of bleach every time I eat something
I don’t wash my hands at all. Or shower for that matter.
Andrew
21-07-2021, 12:00 PM
Surface transmission is negligible. How do people still not understand this?
The same reason people defend mask wearing.
The melts have brought in a requirement of needing to be:
- double-vaccinated
- tested positive within last 180 days (what?) And finished isolating
- a negative test within last 48 hours
I've investigated and you actually need a valid test code that is on the lateral flows in order to succesfully log on https://www.gov.uk/report-covid19-result and provide the proof necessary for entry so I'm gonna take 50 tests to the venue and be the hero of the day.
This seems to have become standard protocol amongst festivals and clubs. Freedom day, they said. Vaccine will have us back to normal, they said. They won't be able to pass such measures through, they said.
:happycry:
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 12:15 PM
It’s effectively forcing the population to get a vaccine. Boosters will be next. I assume a fair few top ranking officials influencing these decisions have shares in Pharma companies and are looking forward to the explosion if we’re still using their vaccines in 3 years time. We will be.
Bastard pharma companies with their vaccines.
We’re getting dangerously close to someone using the phrase BIG PHARMA
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 02:55 PM
Bastard pharma companies with their vaccines.
So your assuming the best of anything associated with science even extends to capitalism? Wow.
I'm not really assuming anything. We have multiple vaccines due to private/public collaboration and innovation.
And lizardry. Lots of lizardy.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 03:31 PM
Dermatitis is no joking matter.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:11 PM
I'm not really assuming anything. We have multiple vaccines due to private/public collaboration and innovation.
Of course. We also have a load of pharmaceutical companies that are run by people whose sole job is to maximise shareholder wealth and aren't therefore going to be interested in finding a solution that makes vaccines redundant within 3 years.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 04:17 PM
OK, we're into the realm of "they know the cure for cancer but they're making too much money!!!" now. Can we not?
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:19 PM
OK, we're into the realm of "they know the cure for cancer but they're making too much money!!!" now. Can we not?
We're not though, are we.
Why would pharma companies who've invested a fuckton in getting this off the ground and agreed to do it for no profit for three years want this to be over in that time? It's simple capitalism. You might not like it, but that's the world we live in.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:22 PM
Honestly, the good faith in which people take anything that's associated with science is utterly mental.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 04:24 PM
How are we not in that realm? Look at your own words. Bad.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:26 PM
How are we not in that realm? Look at your own words. Bad.
Because curing cancer as you put it is a very complicated thing that actually involves curing multiple different illnesses. We already have a vaccine for this.
Do you trust that McDonalds do everything they undertake in good ethical faith?
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 04:28 PM
McDonald's are not a company with a history of treating and curing illness.
Honestly. I can't.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:30 PM
No, but they are a company. Why do companies exist?
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 04:32 PM
Not going down this rabbithole and neither should you.
Of course. We also have a load of pharmaceutical companies that are run by people whose sole job is to maximise shareholder wealth and aren't therefore going to be interested in finding a solution that makes vaccines redundant within 3 years.
They are interested in that Yev. I worked in vaccine research for the best part of ten years and can safely tell you that every company wants to be the ones to end this. A magical drug or vaccine that outperforms all the others or ends covid would be extremely valuable.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:34 PM
They are interested in that Yev. I worked in vaccine research for the best part of ten years and can safely tell you that every company wants to be the ones to end this. A magical drug or vaccine that outperforms all the others or ends covid would be extremely valuable.
Of course, but in the absence of that (these vaccines clearly aren't going to end it) do you think the higher ups are going to be happy to make no money from this after the three years are up?
Lofty
21-07-2021, 04:36 PM
I'll be honest lads I walked into the big Tesco last night maskless in the name of freedom day's passing then BOTTLED it 5 yards in when I saw the majority of people were masked up.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:36 PM
Not going down this rabbithole and neither should you.
The brain washing is incredible. Do you know how much the skin whitening market is worth? Is that product treating or curing an illness?
Of course, but in the absence of that (these vaccines clearly aren't going to end it) do you think the higher ups are going to be happy to make no money from this after the three years are up?
I would imagine that for powerhouses like AZ and GSK, a goodwill covid program that is non-profit won’t hurt them at all financially.
The brain washing is incredible. Do you know how much the skin whitening market is worth? Is that product treating or curing an illness?
Lol what.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:39 PM
I would imagine that for powerhouses like AZ and GSK, a goodwill covid program that is non-profit won’t hurt them at all financially.
AZ's share price is as high as it's ever been, but let's watch that tumble if we're not using their vaccines within three years.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:40 PM
Lol what.
The point is that pharmaceutical companies have absolutely no problem indulging in ethical filth if they can make money from it.
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 04:40 PM
The whole market is at an all time high
AZ's share price is as high as it's ever been, but let's watch that tumble if we're not using their vaccines within three years.
They weren’t doing too bad pre-pandemic, to be fair.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:44 PM
The whole market is at an all time high
Will it still be there if we're not using any COVID vaccines come 2024?
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 04:55 PM
And look, I'm not saying there's definitely any shady shit going on to prolong this, but goalposts are being moved, T-Cells aren't being remotely talked about and there's a huge push to get everyone vaccinated.
The vaccines are also a bit crap (I'm 100% convinced not by design), but that also leads to boosters being needed (if we're ignoring T-Cells), so to be roundly set upon for posing any questions on the matter is insane.
In any other walk of life we'd be asking why this is happening, who is going to benefit from it?
Spikey M
21-07-2021, 04:55 PM
Will it still be there if we're not using any COVID vaccines come 2024?
That will depend on financial performance across the board. These are multi-billion pound companies with huge and varied product lines. Covid isn't do or die.
That said, it has long been accepted that Covid is here to stay. You can count the number of illnesses we've eliminated with vaccines on one finger and that took nearly 20 years.
They will profit handsomely from the vaccines and will do so without having to do anything sociopathic.
Giggles
21-07-2021, 05:04 PM
The "it lives on wood, plastic and steel for 8 days" that was released last year is solely to blame for that. People heard it first and can't shake it.
I still spray everything I buy in a shop with sanitiser. Haven’t caught it yet so I’m not changing that at this stage.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 05:04 PM
They will profit handsomely from the vaccines and will do so without having to do anything sociopathic.
They'll profit handsomely from them only if we're still using them. And agreed on it long being accepted (bar by the zero COVID mentalists) that COVID is here to stay, but it's not been accepted long (or even at all) that we were going to have to vaccinate everyone and follow that up with boosters if people still want to do things and enjoy life, which now appears very much to be the path we're on.
As Don pointed out, it was only a few months ago people here were saying no chance on vaccine passports domestically. IIRC you were one of them.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 05:05 PM
I still spray everything I buy in a shop with sanitiser. Haven’t caught it yet so I’m not changing that at this stage.
You do you, but you'd probably be fine. I washed beer bottle tops before drinking from them for about 2 months from last March and then got bored doing so and still don't think I ever caught it.
Giggles
21-07-2021, 05:07 PM
I get the liquid sanitiser free in work and just refill my house bottle and van bottle whenever so it’s not really worth stopping when it costs nothing. Probably worth doing regardless of covid.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 05:08 PM
I think Jim nailed it when he said living on your own is the key to having avoided catching this. I mean, it made me go nearly mental, but that and working from home was a double whammy in that respect.
Shindig
21-07-2021, 05:13 PM
Not sure staying up til 5am's a factor, Yev.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 05:16 PM
Not sure staying up til 5am's a factor, Yev.
I didn't. Went to bed about 10 and woke up at 5. Watched the last 5 minutes of the Bucks winning and then had another couple of hours. My sleeping is now back to being incredibly well managed and boy do I feel better for it.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 05:18 PM
Unless you meant generally over the last 16 months, in which case, carry on.
I didn't. Went to bed about 10 and woke up at 5. Watched the last 5 minutes of the Bucks winning and then had another couple of hours. My sleeping is now back to being incredibly well managed and boy do I feel better for it.
Giannis > Socrates
Magic
21-07-2021, 05:24 PM
I get the liquid sanitiser free in work and just refill my house bottle and van bottle whenever so it’s not really worth stopping when it costs nothing. Probably worth doing regardless of covid.
It'll be funny when you die of something utterly minimal because you've destroyed your own immune system.
Shindig
21-07-2021, 05:25 PM
How did you knack yours?
randomlegend
21-07-2021, 06:25 PM
I think Jim nailed it when he said living on your own is the key to having avoided catching this. I mean, it made me go nearly mental, but that and working from home was a double whammy in that respect.
I live with a teacher and get coughed on by kids all day and haven't had it.
The vaccines are also a bit crap (I'm 100% convinced not by design), but that also leads to boosters being needed
This is firstly nonsense, it's hugely more effective than say the flu vaccine and boosters, while talked about about, is not actually a necessity.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 06:47 PM
This is firstly nonsense, it's hugely more effective than say the flu vaccine and boosters, while talked about about, is not actually a necessity.
Isn't the problem with vaccinating against Flu that you're making the vaccine before you know what the strain will be? I wasn't holding the flu one up as the basis of comparison.
Shindig
21-07-2021, 06:48 PM
As opposed to a covid vaccine designed two variants back?
The strains included in the flu vaccine are those that were most prevalent in the preceding year.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 07:28 PM
I live with a teacher and get coughed on by kids all day and haven't had it.
Well yes, but you're much more likely to have done than me.
randomlegend
21-07-2021, 07:30 PM
One of the paed surgical registrars who worked in a hospital where SARS was going round told me back at the start "Wash your hands a ridiculous amount and don't touch your face and you won't get it". I have followed his advice and neither of us have had it.
They should have just asked him and this could've been done with 18 months ago.
Yev was much more entertaining talking rubbish about England's football team. In danger of jumping the shark here.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 08:00 PM
As always, feel free to point out specifically what you take issue with.
Lewis
21-07-2021, 08:07 PM
You not doing your list.
Yevrah
21-07-2021, 08:09 PM
Now that is a very fair comment.
Magic
21-07-2021, 08:39 PM
One of the paed surgical registrars who worked in a hospital where SARS was going round told me back at the start "Wash your hands a ridiculous amount and don't touch your face and you won't get it". I have followed his advice and neither of us have had it.
They should have just asked him and this could've been done with 18 months ago.
But it's airbourne lol.
randomlegend
21-07-2021, 08:52 PM
But it's airbourne lol.
I know you struggle with subtle social cues what with your autism but I wasn't being entirely serious with that post.
I'll be honest lads I walked into the big Tesco last night maskless in the name of freedom day's passing then BOTTLED it 5 yards in when I saw the majority of people were masked up.
:D
Dquincy
21-07-2021, 11:05 PM
As always, feel free to point out specifically what you take issue with.
You change your views constantly. It's mental that you deny this.
Are you on the spectrum?
Does he change his views? He seems remarkably consistent to me.
Dquincy
22-07-2021, 06:28 AM
I feel he does about the vaccine. But definitely not about the dreaded science. There he's as consistent as ever.
And he did say he was going clubbing when this all opens up.
Queenslander
22-07-2021, 06:35 AM
Hard border with NSW goes up tonight.
Zero community transmissions again today, NRL in Queensland for the rest of year including Grand Final, Olympics... Queensland>NSW
Shindig
22-07-2021, 07:49 AM
Yevrah's went from, "BUT WE HAVE A VACCINE!" to "THE VACCINE IS TERRIBLE!"
And everyone else has gone from 'we'll soon have a vaccine' to 'keep sticking it down my throat pls'.
How many weeks after the first dose can you have the second? I've been told 8 as a minimum which seems bollocks.
Shindig
22-07-2021, 08:13 AM
That's right. It was 12 but they shifted it forward to 8.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 08:13 AM
How many weeks after the first dose can you have the second? I've been told 8 as a minimum which seems bollocks.
Pfizer said 21 or 28 days I think. It's just UK policy to do 8-12 weeks. Apparently it makes the vaccine more effective, but who knows
I had mine 21/05 and 18/07 which is 8 weeks and a few days.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:14 AM
You change your views constantly. It's mental that you deny this.
Are you on the spectrum?
Some things:
I don't change my views constantly. But again, feel free to point out where I have. I have of course changed views at times, it's important to take in the latest information when basing any view and information changes.
For example, a few months ago I found the horrifically under reported fact, as stated on AZ's (IIRC) website that vaccines protect 100% against severe disease. That made me think the vaccines were excellent. Well, it turns out they don't, manifestly they don't. So, they're not as good as I thought. View changed. Now some might say "well, they're only not that effective for some people in the mobility scooter brigade" and I'd say yes, that appears to be the case. BUT, given they're the exact demographic we're trying to save and I've spent 16 months working at home in attempting to do so, I feel I'm justified in changing my opinion on how good the vaccines are. We all also thought at one stage they would end this. It's pretty clear now (again, based on the latest picture, but that's always subject to change) that they might not.
People who hold one view and never change it, in direct opposition to changing times and what's actually happening now are idiots. Are you an idiot?
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:16 AM
I feel he does about the vaccine. But definitely not about the dreaded science. There he's as consistent as ever.
And he did say he was going clubbing when this all opens up.
Vaccine bit addressed above. And I will go clubbing, there's an offer of a night out still on the table to whoever picked the date correctly.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 08:17 AM
Why is changing your mind seen as a bad thing? Is responding to new information a sign of weakness?
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:18 AM
Yevrah's went from, "BUT WE HAVE A VACCINE!" to "THE VACCINE IS TERRIBLE!"
Addressed above, but if someone had told you a year ago we'd have jabbed as many people as we have and we'd still be where we are now would you have thought that were likely outcome? Again, not terrible (as you've thoroughly misrepresented me by claiming), but a bit crap.
And if people who've been jabbed are still dying in their hundreds, then they absolutely are 'a bit crap'.
There really is no objective measure of the vaccine being "a bit crap'". We've got thousands of people currently with covid who are not ending up with serious illness unlike previous case spikes. We've seen globally falls in serious illness post vaccine rollouts.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:24 AM
Why is changing your mind seen as a bad thing? Is responding to new information a sign of weakness?
Indeed. It's what's kept me understanding what's going on throughout this. Which went something like this:
Jan-20 "This is sounding a bit serious now"
Feb-20 "That doctor has died, game changer"
Feb-20 "It's coming"
Feb-20 "Italy is on fire, we are fucked"
Mar-20 "It's going to end society as we know it"
Mar/Apr 20 The government avoids that happening by paying people not to work. The most radical instrument they've ever used in my lifetime.
2020 "We've had a look at it now, it's not as bad as we feared, in the absence of a vaccine we need to get back to normal life as best we can"
2020 "Fuck, we've got a vaccine. It's over when we've administered enough of it"
2021 "We've administered enough of it and this isn't over. Why not?"
2021 "People who have been jabbed are still dying, in reasonably sizeable numbers. Or at least enough to get the lockdown forever brigade mobilised."
2021 "Goal posts are moving. Why?"
That about sums it up. Obviously SCIENCE is missing from that, but weak/useless government is too.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:26 AM
There really is no objective measure of the vaccine being "a bit crap'". We've got thousands of people currently with covid who are not ending up with serious illness unlike previous case spikes. We've seen globally falls in serious illness post vaccine rollouts.
They said it protects 100% against severe disease. It doesn't. Would you prefer "not as good as we were told/scientists believed"?
And I'm not having a go at them for that as the sample size was nothing at the time compared to what we have now, but it's the reality of the situation.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:30 AM
There really is no objective measure of the vaccine being "a bit crap'". We've got thousands of people currently with covid who are not ending up with serious illness unlike previous case spikes. We've seen globally falls in serious illness post vaccine rollouts.
And that last bit isn't true. Globally daily deaths are currently higher than they were at almost any point last year.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
EDIT: And I clearly have to add this (FFS). That's not me saying it doesn't work, we just haven't administered enough of it globally for it to. I don't know why you're claiming we have.
Shindig
22-07-2021, 08:31 AM
The goalposts are moving because at no point has this pandemic been a static situation. We're pulling the same cases as the second wave and a fraction are going into hospital. A fraction are dying. You can reasonably argue the vaccine's helped keep deaths down in this wave by 90%.
How many weeks after the first dose can you have the second? I've been told 8 as a minimum which seems bollocks.
Did you know the clinical guidance (from the manufacturers) says the wait time between the 1st and 2nd jab for the AstraZeneca vaccine should be at least 5 weeks, and only 3 weeks for Pfizer?
But they said 12 weeks initially and have now lowered it to 8, because they didn’t have enough.
Makes you think. WHAT ELSE ARE THEY LYING ABOUT.
Hello.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:35 AM
The goalposts are moving because at no point has this pandemic been a static situation. We're pulling the same cases as the second wave and a fraction are going into hospital. A fraction are dying. You can reasonably argue the vaccine's helped keep deaths down in this wave by 90%.
And I'd agree with that, it absolutely has. The numbers look like they bear it out. Get into mid to late August and we'll absolutely know for sure how many it's saved. Without vaccines we'd be in lockdown again now and life would be horrific. But then if a scientist hadn't left a fridge door open in Wuhan we likely wouldn't be in this situation in the first place, so swings and roundabouts.
What does a global death tally show me?
Let's look at countries that are actually effectively rolling out the vaccine v not:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
v
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/brazil/
Israel is a great case in point : https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/#graph-deaths-daily
Offshore Toon
22-07-2021, 08:40 AM
I was told 3 weeks as minimum between jabs but you'd need a good reason to get in that quickly. Most people have been done just after 6 weeks here.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:40 AM
What you also need to bear in mind with the numbers as well is that we lost somewhere around 70,000+ people last year from care environments, that in reality are a sad irrelevance when it comes to comparison this year vs last as we willingly gave it to them while hiding behind the abomination that were lateral flow tests and COVID can't kill any of those people again. Basically, it's already plucked the low hanging fruit and if it hadn't, the deaths we've seen so far this summer (with vaccines in play) would potentially have been higher. EDIT: Higher than they are now, not higher than last year full stop.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:43 AM
What does a global death tally show me?
Nothing when it comes to looking at Israel. You're the one who mentioned global in one post and then decided to show me specific countries in the next. I've no idea why. I'm aware of how shit Brazil is compared to Israel and 100% know why thx.
Dquincy
22-07-2021, 08:44 AM
Some things:
I don't change my views constantly. But again, feel free to point out where I have. I have of course changed views at times, it's important to take in the latest information when basing any view and information changes.
For example, a few months ago I found the horrifically under reported fact, as stated on AZ's (IIRC) website that vaccines protect 100% against severe disease. That made me think the vaccines were excellent. Well, it turns out they don't, manifestly they don't. So, they're not as good as I thought. View changed. Now some might say "well, they're only not that effective for some people in the mobility scooter brigade" and I'd say yes, that appears to be the case. BUT, given they're the exact demographic we're trying to save and I've spent 16 months working at home in attempting to do so, I feel I'm justified in changing my opinion on how good the vaccines are. We all also thought at one stage they would end this. It's pretty clear now (again, based on the latest picture, but that's always subject to change) that they might not.
People who hold one view and never change it, in direct opposition to changing times and what's actually happening now are idiots. Are you an idiot?
I suppose I've created an atmosphere where I'm an entertainer first, boss second. And probably an idiot third.
Nothing when it comes to looking at Israel. You're the one who mentioned global in one post and then decided to show me specific countries in the next. I've no idea why. I'm aware of how shit Brazil is compared to Israel and 100% know why thx.
"We've seen globally falls in serious illness post vaccine rollouts."
The second half of the sentence implies it's post a vaccine rollout so obviously it's not all countries globally.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:47 AM
"We've seen globally falls in serious illness post vaccine rollouts."
The second half of the sentence implies it's post a vaccine rollout so obviously it's not all countries globally.
Fair enough. I am being a pedantic twat on this one, probably incorrectly. Apologies Kik's.
Fair enough. I am being a pedantic twat on this one, probably incorrectly. Apologies Kik's.
Peace and love brother.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:51 AM
And don't get me wrong, vaccines absolutely are the way out of this, I've always thought that and them being a bit crap (vs. what we originally thought) doesn't change that. I had my two as soon as I could and I'm a strong advocate of everyone else doing likewise.
Your chances are far better with one and if (enough) people don't have them we're back in lockdown, as it's the only other tool we have.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 08:52 AM
Apart from ZeroCovid. :sick:
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:53 AM
And don't get me wrong, vaccines absolutely are the way out of this, I've always thought that and them being a bit crap (vs. what we originally thought) doesn't change that. I had my two as soon as I could and I'm a strong advocate of everyone else doing likewise.
Your chances are far better with one and if (enough) people don't have them we're back in lockdown, as it's the only other tool we have.
And to add to this, unfortunately it's not me that needs to be convinced of this. No, as it stands now those most in need of convincing are the rank and file members of the SCIENCE brigade.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 08:54 AM
I think we've crossed swords there Spikey. :D
Giggles
22-07-2021, 08:55 AM
I get my second tomorrow. 28 days since the first.
28th August is the earliest availability in my region apperantly. :harold:
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 09:07 AM
28th August is the earliest availability in my region apperantly. :harold:
I thought uptake had been pathetic recently? Sure I saw that only 80,000 were vaccinated or something the other day.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 09:11 AM
I thought uptake had been pathetic recently? Sure I saw that only 80,000 were vaccinated or something the other day.
I thought that too. I think a percentage of the early to mid 30s can't be arsed and those in their 20s are choosing to contract COVID and fight it that way instead.
thommo
22-07-2021, 09:18 AM
I'm still in my 20s (just) and all of the people I know in this age range have had theirs. Could be completely different throughout the country, but even a few mates who had quite large reservations about the vaccine ended up getting it as soon as they were able to.
Quite a few I know have had both doses too, although that could be because Wales have been ahead in the vaccine rollout (and still the slowest to contemplate opening up, madness).
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 09:19 AM
This is where it gets tricky. I'm completely not OK with vaccine passports or any other underhand tactics to get needles in arms, but... we do need the needles in the fucking arms.
I do wonder how many more we'll manage. Unfortunately Magic isn't as rare a beast as we might wish he was.
Magic
22-07-2021, 09:21 AM
We've all got it now and are immune so let's crack on. Apart from the fat trolls who are young and dying or WISHING THEY HAD THE VACCINE how about wishing you didn't eat takeaways every second night you pigs
They said it protects 100% against severe disease. It doesn't. Would you prefer "not as good as we were told/scientists believed"?
And I'm not having a go at them for that as the sample size was nothing at the time compared to what we have now, but it's the reality of the situation.
Just a quick FYI:
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/what-difference-between-efficacy-and-effectiveness
Dquincy
22-07-2021, 10:07 AM
Fury at Australia and New Zealand's 'selfish, parochial and cowardly decision' to pull out of Rugby League World Cup in England - after blaming Britain's 'starkly different' handling of Covid pandemic
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-9813367/Australia-New-Zealand-WITHDRAW-Rugby-League-World-Cup-England-amid-coronavirus-fears.html
lol
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 10:11 AM
Just a quick FYI:
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/what-difference-between-efficacy-and-effectiveness
That is useful to know.
It does not help that a lot of media outlets seems to use the two interchangeably mind.
https://www.google.com/search?q=az+vaccine+100+effective&rlz=1C1AWFB_enGB862GB862&oq=az+100%25+effective+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i22i30.6907j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Even AZ themselves seem to be at it.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 10:12 AM
Fury at Australia and New Zealand's 'selfish, parochial and cowardly decision' to pull out of Rugby League World Cup in England - after blaming Britain's 'starkly different' handling of Covid pandemic
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyleague/article-9813367/Australia-New-Zealand-WITHDRAW-Rugby-League-World-Cup-England-amid-coronavirus-fears.html
lol
14% they'd vaccinated last time I checked. 14%. Proper third world stuff.
That's just typical of what they are. Diabolical.
Queenslander
22-07-2021, 10:19 AM
We are at like 11 million out 26 million.
I'll be double jabbed on the 10th of August.
Dquincy
22-07-2021, 10:22 AM
14% they'd vaccinated last time I checked. 14%. Proper third world stuff.
It's mental. Not sure why the uptake is so poor. Wonder if the sheer mass/spread of the country is a cause. But you'd expect the major cities to be all over it.
...Unless they are in the zerocovid gang and putting their eggs in that basket.
Queenslander
22-07-2021, 10:24 AM
It's mental. Not sure why the uptake is so poor. Wonder if the sheer mass/spread of the country is a cause. But you'd expect the major cities to be all over it.
...Unless they are in the zerocovid gang and putting their eggs in that basket.
It is 100% Scott Morrison and his Government.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 10:29 AM
It's mental. Not sure why the uptake is so poor. Wonder if the sheer mass/spread of the country is a cause. But you'd expect the major cities to be all over it.
...Unless they are in the zerocovid gang and putting their eggs in that basket.
I suppose there's just no urgency over there. Would you bother getting the Ebola Vaccine when there's basically no risk? Maybe, but there'd be no rush and many wouldn't bother.
That's kind of the situation over there. Especially in New Zealand.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 10:29 AM
Aren't you sat on a load of AZ that you won't use?
And it's actually worse than I thought.
https://i.postimg.cc/Jhs5Jkwv/AUS.jpg (https://postimages.org/)
11.5%, lower than the global average.
Queenslander
22-07-2021, 10:32 AM
The right wing media scared the fuck out of the boomers so they demand pfyzer now. Apparently we are sending a bunch to PNG because it.
niko_cee
22-07-2021, 10:33 AM
I think it's more that they/their government are idiots, they were blasé about winning the border-shutting war and didn't think that there might need to be some sort of alternative exit strategy somewhere down the line.
Going all in and then all out on AZ before ever really getting it into anyone also a bit stupid. I guess being isolated from the rest of the world forever wasn't a 'risk' that they factored into their calculations.
niko_cee
22-07-2021, 11:28 AM
I know it's bad, but you can't help but laugh at this (https://uk.yahoo.com/news/woman-killed-lorry-her-first-162738615.html) [obviously quite out of date].
I've managed to reschedule my second dose for the first week of August. Result.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 11:31 AM
I know it's bad, but you can't help but laugh at this (https://uk.yahoo.com/news/woman-killed-lorry-her-first-162738615.html) [obviously quite out of date].
Fuck me, how's your luck?
I bet it said she died from COVID on the death certificate #scamdemic
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 12:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhr9o2nAa2E
Rand Paul rapidly becoming a hero of our time and this all still stinks to high heaven.
Rand Paul has been a hero for a long time.
Rand. :cool:
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 12:07 PM
What are some of his previous hits?
You'll have to query the database (@Lewis) to get a list.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 12:10 PM
Oh are they things he's infamous for rather than bringing the truth about as he appears to be on a mission to do here?
Nah, he is one of the most solid politicians out there.
He is mostly infamous (or famous, depending who you ask I guess) for being against abortion.
niko_cee
22-07-2021, 12:18 PM
He's a fucking idiot going off that video, but I have heard his name pop up before as some sort of libertarian hero.
Like to think that's Mert sat behind him in the glasses.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 12:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxS4mJ9b2S4
Honestly, he might be one of the best politicians I've ever seen. So rarely do they explain things this clearly.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 12:19 PM
He's a fucking idiot going off that video
Why? Fauci seemed to utterly avoid and obscure the question and point to me. Which appears to be that the US were funding Wuhan, while knowing what they were doing and are now lying about it.
That isn't cool.
niko_cee
22-07-2021, 12:23 PM
Is he? Isn't he just saying that there is a technical difference between what Senator Paul understands a specific scientific term to mean, and what trained actual science people understand it to mean?
My completely uninformed view would be that various/many governments provide funding for cutting edge research at various/many specialist centres the world over and cherry-picking something to fit an entirely different agenda is a bit off.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 12:28 PM
He cites at least one other expert (admittedly I have no idea of their credentials) who states Wuhan were doing Gain of Function research and Fauci then turns the point to say that the paper showed no link between that and COVID-19, which struck me as disingenuous and a deliberate attempt to obfuscate the conversation as that wasn't what Paul was asserting.
As an aside, I've just watched one of his videos on abortion and while I completely disagree with him, my God is he coherent with his argument.
Is he? Isn't he just saying that there is a technical difference between what Senator Paul understands a specific scientific term to mean, and what trained actual science people understand it to mean?
My completely uninformed view would be that various/many governments provide funding for cutting edge research at various/many specialist centres the world over and cherry-picking something to fit an entirely different agenda is a bit off.
Exactly this. Paul is grandstanding for his audience.
Disco
22-07-2021, 12:47 PM
Rand Paul is a twat who never actually finishes anything.
phonics
22-07-2021, 12:50 PM
Rand Paul is absolute scum. The neighbour who beat him up so badly he was hospitalised for weeks should have got a medal.
Bernanke
22-07-2021, 12:51 PM
I'm no scientist, I'm Yevrah.
Truly.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 12:56 PM
If someone would like to explain how Wuhan weren't conducting Gain of Function research then you have the floor.
He cites at least one other expert (admittedly I have no idea of their credentials) who states Wuhan were doing Gain of Function research and Fauci then turns the point to say that the paper showed no link between that and COVID-19, which struck me as disingenuous and a deliberate attempt to obfuscate the conversation as that wasn't what Paul was asserting.
As an aside, I've just watched one of his videos on abortion and while I completely disagree with him, my God is he coherent with his argument.
Paul implies the link between between gain of function research and viruses with “pandemic potential” on his opening piece. He knows exactly what he’s doing in my opinion.
As an aside, the NIH are balls deep in research all over the world. They’ll find anything and everything that is cutting edge so it’s no surprise they get caught up in some shit every now and then.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 01:06 PM
Paul implies the link between between gain of function research and viruses with “pandemic potential” on his opening piece. He knows exactly what he’s doing in my opinion.
As an aside, the NIH are balls deep in research all over the world. They’ll find anything and everything that is cutting edge so it’s no surprise they get caught up in some shit every now and then.
7om, I have to say, you are a tour de force in this thread. You explain science to people in exactly the way it should be.
As for your second line, I don't doubt it. I just think one of the public faces of science possibly lying about it is really quite dangerous if he did. It's giving people who're genuinely anti-science ammunition.
It is definitely Rand Paul who first brought up COVID. Then Fauci focused on that instead on whether funding for gain of function research was given or not.
Zom is right that the NIH will definitely be involved in some shady stuff. You can't control everything that happens. Still, if funding for a certain type of research was halted and that research was still being conducted under NIH funding, then asking questions is fair.
All in all, it is a non-story imo.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 01:17 PM
You can also go on the 'good science' list I'm compiling Pep.
7om, I have to say, you are a tour de force in this thread. You explain science to people in exactly the way it should be.
As for your second line, I don't doubt it. I just think one of the public faces of science possibly lying about it is really quite dangerous if he did. It's giving people who're genuinely anti-science ammunition.
Cheers mate, appreciate it.
I wish I was on Yev's list. :(
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 01:30 PM
Chin up, you're on my nonce list.
Turns out I have the rona. I'd better get cracking on the Webly Memorial WDYTOE List before I croak it.
I've had one dose so far. Second one's due in... three weeks or something.
Vaccine a scam confirmed.
Magic
22-07-2021, 07:27 PM
Sorry for giving you guys it. :(
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 07:29 PM
Jesus. It really is widerife. I thought it was particularly bad here because of all the students rightly having fun but it’s fucking everywhere, isn’t it.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 07:29 PM
I've had one dose so far. Second one's due in... three weeks or something.
You'd be fully covered had you stole that guys life.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 07:30 PM
Sorry for giving you guys it. :(
How are you feeling now?
And for that matter how are you Ian?
You'd be fully covered had you stole that guys life.
:D
Bernanke
22-07-2021, 07:34 PM
Jesus. It really is widerife. I thought it was particularly bad here because of all the students rightly having fun but it’s fucking everywhere, isn’t it.
The speed Delta moves at is pretty impressive honestly.
You'd be fully covered had you stole that guys life.
This has gone way over my head. Does the rona also give you the 'mentia? :(
And for that matter how are you Ian?
It mostly just feels like a slightly manky cold. If it weren't for the fact that I was sweating like a motherfucker in bed with a fan on me all night I might not even have thought anything of it.
High temperature (even for the weather), slightly congested chest, bit headachey.
You had a chance to get the vaccine early, but you BOTTLED it.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 07:36 PM
The speed Delta moves at is pretty impressive honestly.
Those Indians do not fuck about. :cool:
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 07:37 PM
This has gone way over my head. Does the rona also give you the 'mentia? :(
Given my complete mental block on watching The Witcher, quite possibly.
You got that text message intended for some other fella inviting you/him to book a vaccine.
Given my complete mental block on watching The Witcher, quite possibly.
You got that text message intended for some other fella inviting you/him to book a vaccine.
Oh. :D
Damn it. So what you're saying is this fucker has MADE me catch COVID? Well I know his name and his GP so I'm gonna hunt him down and give him it right back.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 07:42 PM
Oh. :D
Damn it. So what you're saying is this fucker has MADE me catch COVID? Well I know his name and his GP so I'm gonna hunt him down and give him it right back.
Phone his GP and get him booked in for a prostate exam.
-james-
22-07-2021, 07:45 PM
ONS antibody study (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyantibodyandvaccin ationdatafortheuk/21july2021)
This seems like extremely good news. Cases levelled off as well. If it's not good news then I might suggest we are fucked.
Yevrah
22-07-2021, 07:49 PM
It is and yet we're still pushing vaccines through means of bribery.
Fuck off with your good news, I've just announced my impending death.
Phone his GP and get him booked in for a prostate exam.
"I put my hamster up there and I'm worried he's eating it for sustenance."
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 07:50 PM
:D
This has gone way over my head. Does the rona also give you the 'mentia? :(
It mostly just feels like a slightly manky cold. If it weren't for the fact that I was sweating like a motherfucker in bed with a fan on me all night I might not even have thought anything of it.
High temperature (even for the weather), slightly congested chest, bit headachey.
I bought an oximeter the other day just to keep an eye on my oxygen levels. Pretty cheap from Amazon if you're at all concerned.
Personally I've started to feel more normal on day 4 of being positive so hopefully it keeps going that way.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 08:08 PM
ONS antibody study (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyantibodyandvaccin ationdatafortheuk/21july2021)
This seems like extremely good news. Cases levelled off as well. If it's not good news then I might suggest we are fucked.
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Luke Emia
22-07-2021, 08:32 PM
ONS antibody study (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyantibodyandvaccin ationdatafortheuk/21july2021)
This seems like extremely good news. Cases levelled off as well. If it's not good news then I might suggest we are fucked.
I heard on the radio with the cases levelling off that it was because of how much was open and what we were allowed to do the case levels we were seeing were about as high as they would have expected it to get. The next test is a week from today once the last of the restrictions have been removed where that leaves us as they expect there to be another bounce upwards then.
Magic
22-07-2021, 08:35 PM
But they expected 100k per day and 1k deaths by now
Keeks, any COVID toe fuckery?
niko_cee
22-07-2021, 08:38 PM
I think the fair graph comparison from wave 2 would be around 800-900 deaths a day at the moment (we're probably a week or so away from peak deaths due to lag etc).
In other news, I was going to say hats off to President Biscuit but it seems that quite awesome quote that he's been attributed with may be a bit of the old fake stuff.
Luke Emia
22-07-2021, 08:40 PM
But they expected 100k per day and 1k deaths by now
They never said anything about 1k deaths per day at this point. I think even the biggest retard could work out that at 100k cases per day you’d probably be looking at somewhere around 200 deaths a day just based on the numbers at the minute.
The latest graph I saw looks pretty alarming to be fair.
https://i.ibb.co/5sGh7DS/image.png
Stay safe, everyone.
Spikey M
22-07-2021, 08:49 PM
:D
I call dibs on Webly's Steam library if he snuffs it.
Keeks, any COVID toe fuckery?
The wife's got a sore toe but I don't think it was because of my covid. What's the story?
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