Coronavirus Death Thread

[randomlegend]

Obviously they will need Our NHS resources, but if the Army could sort the logistics out and make people work at gunpoint (worth it to save lives!) then that seems like the best bet.

The NHS sort out the logistics of a mass vaccination campaign every year. Why would the army - who have literally zero experience doing anything similar - be better at it?

Based on my albeit limited and anecdotal experience, the NHS are doing an incredible job getting it up and running.

[Lewis]

For the same reason it wasn't you and your clammy stethoscope putting those Nightingale hospitals together. The logistics of the proper mass rollout are going to be the biggest government job since the war, and they are quite good at that.

[ScousePig]

I understand why they keep schools open when there isn't so much virus about (like in September), but at this particular juncture it seems to me a complete no-brainer to shut them down for a month, go to online learning (which happened in April so there must be a setup/plans for it, even if it means a degree of farting about) and see if that helps.

I think the government see that as a sign of failure.

Tomorrow I'm expecting them to announce primary to go back as normal, with secondary possibly having more staggered restrictions (than have already been announced).

[randomlegend]

they are quite good at that.

Are they? Based on what?

The way you end up with things which look good on paper but don't actually work in practice is by putting the organisation in the hands of people who have zero experience or understanding of how they actually work.

Is that even true about the nightingale hospitals? The hospital I work in was being set up to be one and I know the army had nothing to do with that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The army have experience of basically everything when it comes to logistics. They spend their lives training and doing exercises for these sorts of scenarios, and are orders of magnitude more disciplined than other organisations would be. In the event of needing to vaccinate 65 million people very quickly, it would be insane not to lean on them.

[Shindig]

I'd get the army involved if the jabs were coming in at a rate to allow it. That can only really happen if the Oxford AstraZeneca one gets approved and they've been manufacturing like crazy.

[Magic]

The way you end up with things which look good on paper but don't actually work in practice is by putting the organisation in the hands of people who have zero experience or understanding of how they actually work.


Sounds like the NHS lol.

[randomlegend]

Sounds like the NHS lol.

Yeah, because half the NHS managers are people like ex-army who have zero medical experience and understanding of how the service is actually delivered.

[Pepe]

:lol:

[randomlegend]

The GP practice my mum works in has an ex-army guy as the practice manager and he is predictably a complete disaster.

[Foe]

Probably why he’s not managing in the army.

[Lewis]

He will have left the Army to kill more people.

[randomlegend]

Probably why he’s not managing in the army.

I'm sure he's good at managing in the army because he understands what he's managing.

As a simple example, he set it up so the practice gives 5 minute slots for flu jabs (which take literally 30 seconds) whilst cutting the length of the appointments for COPD and diabetic reviews from 15 minutes to 10 minutes (things which take probably half an hour to do properly). It's a simple thing, but day to day it makes an enormous difference, and because he doesn't understand what it is he's managing he can't do it well.

[Magic]

Is Lee ex-army hehe.

[randomlegend]

Today we're getting emails from managers about how there are outbreaks amongst staff so we need to maintain social distancing at all times between staff even during handovers.

When you query how we're supposed to do this when 8 people have to attend handover and the room we're given to do it in is basically a cupboard they have no answers.

[Lewis]

Sounds to me like we want to be taking it out of their hands. :humb:

[randomlegend]

Nah cus in the NHS you've at least got the clinical managers like the matrons to sort out the fuck ups

[Magic]

Inb4 Mahow posts a pic of Kenneth Williams.

[randomlegend]

But seriously, regardless of my whining about the Lee-tards, the NHS actually has experience organising vaccination programmes and so far it's going really well with this one. Taking it away and giving it to the army who have no experience would be nuts IMO. I can see how their practical support at vaccination centres etc. would be useful though. There's no reason they can't get them giving jabs for example.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't think you would 'take it away and give it to the army', you would just use them because it will be needed for the scale we're talking about.

[randomlegend]

That was literally what Lewis said and what I took issue with.

[Lewis]

True.

[Don]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/29/exclusive-premier-league-clubs-discuss-two-week-break-season/

Don't you fucking dare. 2 weeks in Jan without football will be the end of us.

[Yevrah]

Matches are getting called off and it’s spreading so quickly now anyway we need to do what we can to stop that.

Pretty sure there’ll be a break.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Open the (football) clubs.

[Don]

Listen, I appreciate some of you made the mistake to raise a family and have to pretend that that is fulfilling but literally every outlet of happiness is being closed off because Giggles likes his beige food and beiger drink. I can't hack this ffs and nor will millions others.

[Giggles]

Listen, I appreciate some of you made the mistake to raise a family and have to pretend that that is fulfilling but literally every outlet of happiness is being closed off because Giggles likes his beige food and beiger drink. I can't hack this ffs and nor will millions others.

You’ll just have to. Enjoy those clubs :happycry:

[Offshore Toon]

As if football is that good. Just set up some Haxball tournaments to make up for it.

[niko_cee]

Listen, I appreciate some of you made the mistake to raise a family and have to pretend that that is fulfilling but literally every outlet of happiness is being closed off because Giggles likes his beige food and beiger drink. I can't hack this ffs and nor will millions others.

What you on about you div? Call the whole thing off and dole out the prizes now.

[Pepe]

As if football is that good. Just set up some Haxball tournaments to make up for it.

Do it.

[Offshore Toon]

Do it.
I'm not sure I'm the best man to organise since I have no military experience.

[Boydy]

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Grim reading here.

[Giggles]

The length of it being the grimmest.

[Don]

Back at it again with the intersectional feminist. Fam, if the world listened to these cretins we'd all be undergoing hormone replacement therapy.

[Yevrah]

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Grim reading here.

The idea that there's any point trying to completely contain this strain, or that others like it won't become dominant even if we somehow manage to do that, is laughable.

[Jimmy Floyd]

How many countries actually achieved 'zero covid', and of those, how many were within 100 miles of any other sovereign state?

I know for sure that the answer in Europe is 'none whatsoever'.

[Queenslander]

Good to see the Liberal Party scum predictably keep the 3rd Test in Sydney despite the Northern Beaches still living in level 4 lockdown and the rest of the country declaring Greater Sydney a covid hotspot with strict 14 day quarantine upon entering ever other State and Territory.

[Yevrah]

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This can do one as well.

I would put everything I have on there being no equivalent tweet from her about China being originally responsible and, in addition, lying about it.

[Lewis]

Are there any tweets from her in February raising the alarm?

[Jimmy Floyd]

'We're also responsible for exporting the current strain globally' gives her away - presumably she isn't putting Cyril Ramaphosa in the same dock for exporting the supposed 'South African strain'.

[Alex]

People who do those Twitter threads detailing exactly why they believe they are absolutely on the money about something, usually in an incredibly tedious and self-important tone, are arseholes.

"A brief summary of why I know best and everything I'm about to write is the absolute be all and end all on the issue. Thread." etc.

[randomlegend]

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This can do one as well.

I would put everything I have on there being no equivalent tweet from her about China being originally responsible and, in addition, lying about it.

There's probably a bit of a grim acceptance that China aren't going to do the right thing; I guess the hope is we should aspire to be better than that. That said I do agree the hand-wringing about us 'exporting' this strain seems like bollocks, but then I'm not really qualified to talk about it.

The biggest problem that has become apparent is people won't stick to the required restrictions for a sufficient amount of time for them to actually be effective, so you're stuck with half-arsing it to try and keep them onside.

[Shindig]

Nobody's at zero Covid status. China, New Zealand and Vietnam still have a trickle.

[Spikey M]

It's all aboard team Herd Immunity. 50,000 cases per day and 50,000 vaccinations per day. :drool: (sarcastic drooling Giggs, we're cool)

[Shindig]

I hope we're quicker scaling up the vaccines than we were scaling up the testing.

[Queenslander]

Nobody's at zero Covid status. China, New Zealand and Vietnam still have a trickle.

New Zealand is like the 4th biggest State of Australia and both Western Australia and Queensland have done better than that micro nation.

Vietnam is far more impressive.

[Shindig]

Yeah, they haven't had a death in three months.

[Ian]

If the track and trace is anything to go by I assume our world beating vaccination rollout will involve dumping all the doses of the vaccine in central London and trusting everybody to share nicely.

[Queenslander]

Qlds last death was April 17.

New Zealand really shouldnt be taken that seriously when comparing to proper countries in Europe.

[Giggles]

Qlds last death was April 17.

New Zealand really shouldnt be taken that seriously when comparing to proper countries in Europe.

They’ve the fashionable PM though who loves to lap it up.

[Queenslander]

Queensland is open to NZ but NZ arent capable of opening up to us, Tasmania and Western Austraian untill at least March next year. Our State borders are as strong as any international border.

It will be interesting to see where they are at in 6 months time. The NZ Warriors are playing their 1st 4 games over here next League season because NZ isnt in the position to deal with the Warriors playing at home every second week.

[Lewis]

Media whoppers class Scott Morrison as one of the dreaded 'populists' so they have to either ignore Australia coasting through it or downplay any federal contribution (which obviously they wouldn't do for America).

[Queenslander]

This National Cabinet they formed to cope with covid has been a massive success. PM plus all the State and Territory leaders. Having 7 different Health departments to deal with contact tracing was a big big win.

Morrison has done a good job apart from sniping at the Labor Premiers and sucking up to Gladys at every chance.

[Jimmy Floyd]

As far as I can see based on the full experience of however months it is, internal restrictions seem to have had very little impact wherever you go, with the exception of full police states (personally I would argue this is not a price worth paying). If it's here, it spreads, the only way to stop it has been to stop it getting in. The very few success stories have been the countries that shut their borders immediately and haven't reopened them. Other than that, it seems to have been quieter in poorer countries because - wait for it - no one travels in poorer countries. Which is the African state with the most covid by far? South Africa, of course, the one with the most travel to the rest of the world by orders of magnitude.

The problem is therefore twofold: a) no one could have foreseen the requirement to suddenly shut borders out of nowhere, and no one is psychologically prepared for it now, let alone in February; b) in Europe, particularly, our old friend Freedom of Movement.

[Baz]

Encountered my first anti-masker today, moaning that the sign outside Smyths for all customers to wear a mask was against the countries freedom of speech laws. :rolleyes:

[Dquincy]

Can I just put out some non-educated optimism. Historically, it has been known for a virus to become less potent and harmful the more the strain changesand adapts, etc. This is based on the following scientific research that I've done :

1. None.

Therefore, I welcome this speedy variant and it's future siblings. This time next year it shall be but a mere head cold.

I hope this has cheered you all up.
Thanks

[Queenslander]

The March lockdown we had feels like a lifetime ago now.

[Dquincy]

In addition to my post above, which is actually based on a study:

What most news media won’t tell you...

The mutated variant is only 5% more transmissible (when first around it was 10% av transmission from human to human contact, now it is 15%....)

The mutated variant has a death rate of 0.56% on the only PHE study done to date....

Hospital bed admissions are not yet at the level of the 2018 severe influenza variant we had...

Source: Public Health England study

[John Arne]

The Oxford/AZ vaccine has been approved for you lot.

[Spikey M]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/30/tier-5-restrictions-could-include-might-affect/amp/

Tier 5 :D

[Spikey M]

Wa'gwan with this prescription nonsense RL? Tell Colnel Sanders to pull his finger out.

[Queenslander]

Military clearing the streets in the new year?

[Spikey M]

Military clearing the streets in the new year?

They're going to have to. People are carrying on as normal at the moment. Nobody gives a fuck anymore.

[Queenslander]

That does not sound good at all. We had military outside quarantine and running people from the airport at the start we also sent people to our prison islands at the very beginng lol.

The kiwis had the military in the street for a bit aswell.

[Spikey M]

I don't think our government would actually do it. They'll just keep adding more restrictions that will also be ignored.

The vaccine needs fast tracking.

[Dquincy]

They're going to have to. People are carrying on as normal at the moment. Nobody gives a fuck anymore.

This is the correct way forward.

Edit: Stop screwing the economy!

[Queenslander]

Yeah Im definitely #teamvaccine

[Queenslander]

Melbourne has 3 brand new cases unrelated to Sydney.

[Giggles]

At least you have one to do it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqeUXHyWMAAt2YI?format=jpg

I've been warning you about these froggy bastards for years, it's for a reason you know.

[Lofty]

They just need to fuck it off here and blame the public for whatever happens. Not that the government aren't culpable for mismanagement but the amount of twats I have seen on facebook who did sob story social media posts about having a 'different' christmas this year then following it up with one about how good their long weekend break in Liverpool was is unreal.

[niko_cee]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqeUXHyWMAAt2YI?format=jpg

I've been warning you about these froggy bastards for years, it's for a reason you know.

Yeah, I watched some vax/anti-vax thing ages ago and was a bit surprised to see the French leading the world in that sort of stupidity. Would have had the yanks (and by extension the Australians) down as the leading candidates.

[Spikey M]

The government have been an absolute shambles and they lost all good will over the summer with their handling of Castle-gate. They've not been blameless during the 2nd wave either, but the public are to blame for most of this shit at the moment.

[Queenslander]

Yeah, I watched some vax/anti-vax thing ages ago and was a bit surprised to see the French leading the world in that sort of stupidity. Would have had the yanks (and by extension the Australians) down as the leading candidates.

Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast and the Northern rivers would pull French numbers I reckon. Also WAGs of AFL and League players seem exercise their privilege online telling people not to vaccinate.

[Manc]

Joe Public needs an incentive. Keeping Granny alive clearly isn't enough.

[niko_cee]

Open the clubs?

[Raoul Duke]

Need to restrict people who don't get it - no external travel for one

[Don]

But then you'd just be left with a load of soft leftie melts with IG obsessions filling flights.

[Queenslander]

Failed State.


At least 1 of every 17 people in the U.S. has contracted the coronavirus, and 1 in 1,000 has died. Yet the worst may lie ahead as many Americans travel over the holiday season.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/27/us/1-of-every-17-people-in-the-us-has-been-infected-and-1-in-1000-has-died-yet-the-worst-may-lie-ahead.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55480147

Shit is getting really bad here. Didn't stop half my Facebook having a lovely family Christmas though.

Currently ambulances parked outside Southend Hospital with patients using them as beds because the hospital is full to the brim. They're now having to move patients to hospitals outside of Essex.

[Lewis]

Meanwhile, lol at these retired staff whose comebacks have been thwarted by not having up-to-date mandatory civil service training bullshit.

[randomlegend]

I'm hopefully immune from today.

[Don]

They're not doing anything beyond tier 4 today? U-turn incoming in 4...3...2...

[Yevrah]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55480147

Shit is getting really bad here. Didn't stop half my Facebook having a lovely family Christmas though.

Currently ambulances parked outside Southend Hospital with patients using them as beds because the hospital is full to the brim. They're now having to move patients to hospitals outside of Essex.

It's a good job Simon Dedman is on hand to keep up the quality ANALYSIS the BBC have maintained throughout this.


Analysis
By Simon Dedman, BBC Essex political reporter

This is essentially the people who are running Essex breaking the glass and hitting the alarm button because they are so concerned about the NHS, and especially the hospitals in south Essex, being overwhelmed and running out of beds.

In some cases there is no spare capacity as it is and critical care beds are in very short supply.

I think what this means is patients will be sent out of county - perhaps the likes of Norfolk, Suffolk and Cambridgeshire - where rates are rising but are not as bad as they are in Essex.



Wouldn't have had a fucking clue what the rest of the words in the article meant without that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

When independent sage bowl around calling for an 'immediate national lockdown', why do they never say what this should entail?

[Ian]

I'm hopefully immune from today.

Selfie from a club ASAP, please.

[Lofty]

Tier 4 for me in Lancashire :moop:

[Baz]

Are museums shut in Tier 3?

[niko_cee]

I think all recreational stuff is shut in tier 3 isn't it?

[Kikó]

Yep.

Although amateur sport was still playable so garden soccer should be fine.

[Giggles]

What about museums though?

[Giggles]

I’d say our restrictions are going to be bordering on April levels when announced later. The one thing they seemed dead against was closing schools but it looks like the Christmas holidays are going to be extended now.

[Manc]

Looks like I've dodged a tier upgrade. Many thanks to my brown bretheren.

[Manc]

Van-Tam must be the biggest bore on the planet.

[Don]

It's the greatest indicator of credibility. If the man didn't have to crowbar a football metaphor into his speeches like sone autist to seem human, I'd question his credentials.

[ScousePig]

Van-Tam must be the biggest bore on the planet.

He shows Boris up every time he makes an appearance.

[Spikey M]

You mean JVT, lads.

[Giggles]

That’s not far off April. Not that people will adhere to anywhere near the same levels.


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[Dquincy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55480147

Shit is getting really bad here. Didn't stop half my Facebook having a lovely family Christmas though.

Currently ambulances parked outside Southend Hospital with patients using them as beds because the hospital is full to the brim. They're now having to move patients to hospitals outside of Essex.

Don't always believe what the hype that the media is telling you.

Or even if you do, consider if they've made these claims before.

Example from 2018 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42572116

[Alex]

I'm very alarmed by how common place this usage of emoji's in proper announcements has become during all this. You even see proper, official bodies doing it now. Like they're addressing a group of nursery children.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They're quite handy, seeing as most people are literally unable to read full sentences.

[Shindig]

I've heard nowt from that extended family woman in the Covid ward in about a week. :uhoh:

[Dquincy]

Honestly, the absolute melts shouting for a national lockdown. Bunch of quivering sheep.

The daily new covid cases and deaths where I live in the South East have been coming down since the week before Christmas and are continuing to come down. This being the epicenter of the new VARIANT.

The new cases are also reducing in Essex. But heaven forbid the news report on that. Bunch of cretins.

[Kikó]

I give it two more posts before you call it a SCAMDEMIC.

[Giggles]

I give it two more posts before you call it a SCAMDEMIC.

The Bill Gates PLANDEMIC.

[Don]

Honestly, the absolute melts shouting for a national lockdown. Bunch of quivering sheep.

The daily new covid cases and deaths where I live in the South East have been coming down since the week before Christmas and are continuing to come down. This being the epicenter of the new VARIANT.

The new cases are also reducing in Essex. But heaven forbid the news report on that. Bunch of cretins.

What stats and locations are you specifically talking about here? I ask as your tone seems off and having checked, Essex has increased dramatically week-on-week up until 25th December.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Kent/Essex estuary area finally looks to have begun turning the corner (in this respect, at least, it'll always be a shithole). London is still ravaged.

[ScousePig]

Honestly, the absolute melts shouting for a national lockdown. Bunch of quivering sheep.

The daily new covid cases and deaths where I live in the South East have been coming down since the week before Christmas and are continuing to come down. This being the epicenter of the new VARIANT.

The new cases are also reducing in Essex. But heaven forbid the news report on that. Bunch of cretins.

981 deaths.

[phonics]

Quincy can’t even spell let alone analyse a pandemic. Genuinely up there with the thickest posters around.

[Dquincy]

You know when they're on the ropes when they're attacking your spelling. :drool:

[phonics]

Putting you on a peddle stool that just says ‘Thick as fuck’.

[Shindig]

Durham has spiked. Very little in the city itself but everywhere around it is up. Maybe that's the students coming back from down south.

[Don]

Quincy can’t even spell let alone analyse a pandemic. Genuinely up there with the thickest posters around.

Bro, there's like 8 of us around here, there's no need for such unnecessary vitriol.

[Dquincy]

What stats and locations are you specifically talking about here? I ask as your tone seems off and having checked, Essex has increased dramatically week-on-week up until 25th December.

Gov.uk website. Collectively, Kent has reducing numbers.

So many people don't bother to look at the figures and just go on what the hyperbole media tell them. Melts.

[Don]

RL, I hope the vaccine side-effects are unbearable, you prick.

[Dquincy]

Putting you on a peddle stool that just says ‘Thick as fuck’.

Alright pube head.

[Spikey M]

I live here, know numerous people with it and have seen the ambulances camped outside the hospital. They are literally having to move people out of Essex because we are out of beds.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Obviously loads of people still have it there, but it looks as though it's starting to burn through in the areas that were raging about 7-10 days ago. It's then rising in other areas (almost everywhere). Hospitalisations are a week or more later in the timeline than positive tests.

[Spikey M]

They really just need to fuck this prescription bollocks off and send the army door to door needling every fucker around. Just get it done for christ sake.

[randomlegend]

RL, I hope the vaccine side-effects are unbearable, you prick.

I had literally none :drool:

Our hospitals covid cases have doubled in five days. 1/6th of the hospital's total beds are now filled by covid patients.

Paeds is dead again.

[Shindig]

You should really stop saying that. One day a nurse is going to Munchausen an infant ward.

[Giggles]

Yes. Stop saying paeds.

[mo]

They really just need to fuck this prescription bollocks off and send the army door to door needling every fucker around. Just get it done for christ sake.

Too busy manning phonelines for Secondary schools on how to roll-out mass testing.

Also, are we just going to ignore phonics' 'peddle stool' comment? (Although I partly wonder if that was a deliberate play on the IT Crowd joke)

[Shindig]

Peddle stool is deep-seated in the TTH lexicon.

[Dquincy]

Too busy manning phonelines for Secondary schools on how to roll-out mass testing.

Also, are we just going to ignore phonics' 'peddle stool' comment? (Although I partly wonder if that was a deliberate play on the IT Crowd joke)

I misspelt pedestal back in 2009.

[niko_cee]

It goes deeper than htat matey.

[Dquincy]

???

[randomlegend]

Fiancée's uncle + family were all having cold symptoms and still went to go and see her grandad for Christmas. They then started with temperatures and have tested positive. Her grandad is now starting to feel unwell too.

Beyond belief. Her Mum had to nag her uncle to get tested as he "didn't realise a temperature meant he needed a test". Speechless.

[Lewis]

Some family you've got there dickhead. :nono:

[Dquincy]

It goes deeper than htat matey.

Come on, don't wimp out on me.

[randomlegend]

Some family you've got there dickhead. :nono:

Some of the girls family are proper drongos tbh

[niko_cee]

Come on, don't wimp out on me.

I don't think I could do justice to the proper explanation and I think the source material has long since departed this dimension, unless someone else can find Hornet's handy guide to the Grass Roots lexicon (I can't even properly recall what the thread was called).

[Spoonsky]

Putting you on a peddle stool that just says ‘Thick as fuck’.

...a pedestal?

edit: may should read the rest of the fred before posting

[Dquincy]

I don't think I could do justice to the proper explanation and I think the source material has long since departed this dimension, unless someone else can find Hornet's handy guide to the Grass Roots lexicon (I can't even properly recall what the thread was called).
Ah, fair enough, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Spoonsky]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqeUXHyWMAAt2YI?format=jpg

I've been warning you about these froggy bastards for years, it's for a reason you know.

Interesting that the US is the only place where it's improved. I wonder if Pence getting it on tv changed a lot of Fox News-heads' minds.

[Yevrah]

Fascinating that there are much lower stronger feelings among the Asian nations.

[mugbull]

I don’t think they feel “strongly” about a single thing

[Queenslander]

Indonesia are pretty serious about certain things.

[Lewis]

Plus you can afford to shrug when you've got natural immunity.

[Don]

The good news is 100m of AZ and 30m of Pfizer mean we can all get our double dosage of nanotech. The bad news is Pfizer aren't approving of giving a 3 month window between doses like the UKG are proposing.

Any one want to double-up on their protection? Mine are there for the taking. Don't thank me.

[Queenslander]

I would take both now if it let me travel to and from Northern NSW like the good old days.

[Yevrah]

I don’t think they feel “strongly” about a single thing

That was what I was getting at, it's brilliant.

[Queenslander]

Betoota read my mine.

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[Queenslander]

Hard border back up between Victoria and Western Australia and Victoria and NSW.

Gladys has fucked up the country again and everyone will be back to borders up everywhere next week.

The whole country has Sydney as a hot spot but she and Cricket Australia the miserable cunts both refuse to cancel the New Years day Test... The SCG will be at 50% capacity tomorrow. Lol

Morrison has zero control atm. We are just a continent with 6 States and 2 Territories the Federal Govenment is MIA.

[ItalAussie]

Morrison has zero control atm. We are just a continent with 6 States and 2 Territories the Federal Govenment is MIA.
I will give credit to them for the jobkeeper scheme, but that's basically it.

Honestly, I've mostly been impressed with the state governments. They've made some missteps, but it could have been a great deal worse if they hadn't done largely sensible things.

[Queenslander]

I will give credit to them for the jobkeeper scheme, but that's basically it.

Honestly, I've mostly been impressed with the state governments. They've made some missteps, but it could have been a great deal worse if they hadn't done largely sensible things.

2020 has been the year of State Govenment.

Are you in Brisbane for a bit?

[Don]

Some professor on the radio saying we got blood on our hands for not wearing a mask :D

I'm heading into London tonight for a house party. If I don't make it, it'll be because I dealt with the SWAT team that rushed the gaff and the initial 3 tasers couldn't take me down but the fourth led to my long covid heart failing. Compile my posts in this thread so I can be remembered as a modern day civil rights activist great, all those blacks in that list need some diversity.

[Lewis]

Meanwhile, lol at these retired staff whose comebacks have been thwarted by not having up-to-date mandatory civil service training bullshit.

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lol it's real. Enjoy the party Taz mate.

[Magic]

Roads are as busy as ever. Fantastic to see.

[Manc]

Can confirm every fucker is dressed to the nines and loading up on the good stuff. January is going to be GRIM.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Poland has brought in a 7pm curfew tonight.

[Queenslander]

Fuck that for a joke!


Mr Vukovic said he was now more than $4,000 out of pocket, and questioned the lack of communication from the WA Government and WA Police.

"They only let me go because I booked the first flight back," he said.

"The whole experience was like I was a criminal. Escorted around, locked in the room with security out the front.

"I was looking forward to staying, but it's a sour feeling now. So now I just want to go home."


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-01/wa-covid-border-restrictions-impacts-victorian-travellers/13026460

[niko_cee]

Serves him right for wanting to go to WA.

A friend had his Christmas trip to Port firebombed by the new variant or rules or whatever (he lives on Sydney's Northern Beaches), which was a bit shit for him.

[ItalAussie]

2020 has been the year of State Govenment.

Are you in Brisbane for a bit?

Yep - I'm staying with my brother and sister-in-law in the city. No firm decision on when I'll go back yet. I'm keeping an eye on things for now, and they're happy enough to have me here for a while yet. Things are just much more chilled out up here.

They live near the valley, and I went for a wander there yesterday before we headed to a family thing. It was shaping up to be carnage there. Social distancing was not being strongly followed. :D

[Queenslander]

Yep - I'm staying with my brother and sister-in-law in the city. No firm decision on when I'll go back yet. I'm keeping an eye on things for now, and they're happy enough to have me here for a while yet. Things are just much more chilled out up here.

They live near the valley, and I went for a wander there yesterday before we headed to a family thing. It was shaping up to be carnage there. Social distancing was not being strongly followed. :D

:D Valley on New Years would be a cocaine fueled belter for some.

It is a classy place these days for the most part. Are you near James St?

Brisbane has been relaxed for months and months now. Dont look at your phone or the TV and you'll forget all about Covid.

[Boydy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html

What the fuck.

[Queenslander]

Serves him right for wanting to go to WA.

A friend had his Christmas trip to Port firebombed by the new variant or rules or whatever (he lives on Sydney's Northern Beaches), which was a bit shit for him.

He should do 2 weeks in Byron then go up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/health/coronavirus-vaccines-britain.html

What the fuck.

We've basically done what Tony Blair said, and changed from the original method to a new 'give as many people as possible a first dose at any cost' method.

Probably thinks it's a risk worth taking - could be right, could be wrong, who knows.

[Jimmy Floyd]

In other news I have officially returned to 'fuck this' mode. Between the smug as fuck lefty doctors on twitter revelling in being the bearers of bad news, the mouth breathing right wing cunts on twitter and elsewhere, the fucking dismal political communication from the top of government, and the fact that I am facing another 3 or more months of sitting up here by myself never leaving except to the virus-infested office, it can absolutely do one.

[Boydy]

We've basically done what Tony Blair said, and changed from the original method to a new 'give as many people as possible a first dose at any cost' method.

Probably thinks it's a risk worth taking - could be right, could be wrong, who knows.

No, it's not just that. I know they're doing that. They're also now changing it to if you got the Pfizer one for your first dose, but they don't have it by the time it comes to your second dose, they'll give you the AstraZeneca one if they have it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

No, it's not just that. I know they're doing that. They're also now changing it to if you got the Pfizer one for your first dose, but they don't have it by the time it comes to your second dose, they'll give you the AstraZeneca one if they have it.

Comes to the same thing - a philosophy of prioritising jabbing over not jabbing, at any cost. Presumably they think it's a risk worth taking.

[niko_cee]

Quite an interesting read some of that.

I suppose they do do the same thing, so maybe there is some logic to it.

The people who came up with that probably know a bit more about it than me, you or Katherine J Wu.

[Boydy]

Quite an interesting read some of that.

I suppose they do do the same thing, so maybe there is some logic to it.

The people who came up with that probably know a bit more about it than me, you or Katherine J Wu.

Yeah but it says in the article that they do it in different ways. And there are people who know a bit more about it than the three of us saying it's quite a risk.

[niko_cee]

Also, you'd have to say the headline on that piece is more than a little misleading when you actually read the section on "Previous Incomplete Vaccination".

[Giggles]

Yeah but it says in the article that they do it in different ways. And there are people who know a bit more about it than the three of us saying it's quite a risk.

That’s the thing these days, take about 30 seconds to search and you’ll find experts saying it’s not a risk too. Every angle on everything will have an expert backing it up because it’s so easy be heard now.

[niko_cee]

Yeah but it says in the article that they do it in different ways. And there are people who know a bit more about it than the three of us saying it's quite a risk.

The article is sensationalist wank though, so I'm not sure what credence you should give to it's various talking head sources.


Therefore, every effort should be made to determine which vaccine the individual received and to complete with the same vaccine. For individuals who started the schedule and who attend for vaccination at a site where the same vaccine is not available, or if the first product received is unknown, it is reasonable to offer one dose of the locally available product to complete the schedule. This
option is preferred if the individual is likely to be at immediate high risk or is considered unlikely to attend again. In these circumstances, as both the vaccines are based on the spike protein, it is likely the second dose will help to boost the response to the first dose.

Seems a fairly narrow set of circumstances to be basing a shock horror headline on.

[Lewis]

It makes sense to just give people whatever as quickly as possible. It's not like mixing them together makes you worse off.

[Lewis]

Speaking of Tony Blair, where has this meme come from that New Labour were these ruthlessly efficient technocrats? Even if you don't subscribe to the correct view that they completely ruined the country and society and that he should be hanged, they had bi-annual reshuffles and fucked every major project and (attempted) reform up. They just happened to have a chequebook and a compliant media and parasite sector running interference for them.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The same place all revisionism does: nostalgia. Commentators aged 50 odd see Blair talking guff and think back to the good old days when they earned shit tons to do not much, weren't the subject of Twitter pile-ons, and could get it up.

[phonics]

Andrew Neil has rt’d at least 4 articles from The Spectator about cancel culture in the last week. It’s fucking hilarious how terrified they are of anyone calling them a knob.

[Lewis]

People are having a right ball with 'Britpopper' discourse on Twitter, and I invented it over a decade ago. Yet another missed opportunity to get that YouTube fight money laying some FBPE personality out.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Memory Sweet Spot is currently set to about 1997-8, so we've got another five or so years of wistful Blair thinkpieces and re-evaluations of Ms Dynamite before the next Blair finally comes along and starts it all over again.

I watched the TV version of White Teeth the other week, the book came out in 2000 and marked Peak Blair. Load of utter guff.

[Lewis]

I feel like the only thing currently preventing a massive wave of David Cameron/coalition revision is people still blaming him for Brexit ('voters never even cared about Europe'). Assuming that the Conservative Party reverts to being shit for the remainder of the parliament then it won't materialise, but if they do the odd 'populist' thing that the Guardian and Big Quaker don't like then we should see the first paeans to George Osborne's 'seriousness' by next summer.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Nick Clegg's tuition fees / going off to shill for Facebook one-two has seen off any hope of the coalition being rehabilitated, while Cameron saw to himself when he lost the referendum for them (and then 'ran away', as if staying on to manage the exit against a mob of his own braying MPs would have helped matters).

If Gideon was even slightly less of a lizard weirdo he could have secured a slightly less earthy Ed Balls cultural space by now. Oh well, that's St Paul's boys for you.

[Lewis]

The trick will be to gloss over Nick Clegg and just see him as part of the Cameron/Osborne ('sensible Tories') effort to battle their real opposition, Michael Gove (plus one), the 'Tory Right' ft. Nigel Farage, and the then Mayor of London, who was actually no threat to Cameron whatsoever until 2016 but he gave a lol conference speech every year so people pretended he was. Then you will get the likes of Justine Greening and Nick Boles made out to have been major ministers when they weren't, like how people think Alan Johnson was a major New Labour figure whilst John Prescott, Charles Clarke etc. slip out of popular memory.

[Lewis]

I'm looking at the Blair ministries and, despite the unbelievable general churn, Geoff Hoon managed to hang on as Minister of Defence for six years. Half of these people might as well be dead. Ruth Kelly is fifty-two years old, and I haven't heard her name for ten years.

[phonics]

Just to go back to Jim mentioning cancel culture. I’ve been wracking my brain on it and I’m struggling to come up with someone who’s an actual victim of cancel culture. Jordan Peterson banged on about his victim hood all the time but the only thing that seemed to happen as a result of him being cancelled was a million dollar book deal and him getting addicted to eating beef and snorting OxyContin.

[Queenslander]

Alex Jones, Louis CK, Chris Delia?

Edit: Kevin Hart sort of

Shane Gillis is the most pathetic example.

[phonics]

I’m not sure how ‘locking the door and forcing women to watch me masturbate’ or ‘having sex with underage women’ fit under the ‘cancelled for participating in the forum of ideas’ my man but you do you. Preferably by the sounds of it, far away from women.

[Queenslander]

Im just having a crack at your question.

[Pepe]

Just to go back to Jim mentioning cancel culture. I’ve been wracking my brain on it and I’m struggling to come up with someone who’s an actual victim of cancel culture. Jordan Peterson banged on about his victim hood all the time but the only thing that seemed to happen as a result of him being cancelled was a million dollar book deal and him getting addicted to eating beef and snorting OxyContin.

Are you saying that 'canceling' is ineffective, and maybe even counterproductive? Maybe it is a tactic that should be abandoned, then.

[phonics]

If anything they should love it for stimulating the economy.

[Spikey M]

How is Katie Hopkins getting on these days? I'm assuming she's hitched the hate-wagon to a new platform?

[Giggles]

Grim reading thread on the absolute shit show is going on here. Or, sorry I mean :drool: :drool: :drool:


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[niko_cee]

You can't still be in the Dyatlov meme surely?

[Giggles]

Going to need that one explained.

[Shindig]

3.6 Roentgen. Good, not terrible. Except that's as high as the radiation readers went in Chernobyl.

[niko_cee]

1700 cases a day?

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aMKeBXx_700bwp.webp

[Giggles]

1700 cases a day?

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aMKeBXx_700bwp.webp


The thread is about it being closer to 5000 cases and not 1700 because of the shambles that the health service is. There’s 9000 positive cases alone awaiting verification that aren’t on the system because they’re still documenting everything with pen and paper.

[Spikey M]

Going to need that one explained.


https://youtu.be/ocBVLMHK6c8

[mo]

On a union reps Zoom call at 12. Suspect industrial action may be the agenda, which I have some reservations about.

[Queenslander]

Australia would be better off if the Victorian border and the Queensland border touched.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't understand why the government doesn't just move to online learning until end of January (maybe make exceptions for those in exam years) - is it not the easiest decision in the world?

[mo]

I don't understand why the government doesn't just move to online learning until end of January (maybe make exceptions for those in exam years) - is it not the easiest decision in the world?

That would require Williamson to take a more tentative approach, which doesn't suit the narrative they're (failing to) spin about strong, decisive decision making.

At the end of it, they just want to be able to say "well, we kept the schools open".

[Spikey M]

The easiest win would be to give parents the option.

[Kikó]

I don't understand why the government doesn't just move to online learning until end of January (maybe make exceptions for those in exam years) - is it not the easiest decision in the world?

Because you still have a massive gap between the haves and have nots. There are already significant learning gaps opening up in primary schools due to it.

[mo]

Ok so not strike action, but about invoking the right to work from home whilst online learning is happening (the current line is staff have to go into the school building to deliver online lessons).

[Spikey M]

My daughters teacher is teaching from home at the moment (although she is high risk).

[Magic]

Unpopular opinion: teachers can't work from home.

[mo]

Because?

[Magic]

Because they're not working then are they. Happy to replace all teachers with some elite online learning presenters?

[mo]

Because they're not working then are they. Happy to replace all teachers with some elite online learning presenters?

How are they not working? We plan the lessons, do live lessons via Zoom/Teams/whatever, mark the work submitted, etc. It’s not the best way to do the job, but it is currently the safest. Being in school to deliver lessons or doing them from home doesn’t impact the quality of the lessons.

As for your ‘elite online learning presenters’, I take it you mean Joe Wicks et al? If that’s the case then you’re a tad deluded - no one is queuing up to deliver online lessons for free or is able to provide the kind of specific, tailored learning that students need.

[Shindig]

I thought Magic was going to make a pertinent point about how the learning environment is key to success. Sometimes I expect too much.

[randomlegend]

The general attitude towards teachers in this country is absolutely disgusting, to be honest.

It's one of the most demanding jobs going.

[Giggles]

I thought Magic was going to make a pertinent point about how the learning environment is key to success. Sometimes I expect too much.

:D You’ve read his posts before haven’t you?

[Magic]

I thought Magic was going to make a pertinent point about how the learning environment is key to success. Sometimes I expect too much.

That was my point but the fact mo asked me why means it's a lost cause. They should be fighting for the classroom instead of 'picketing'. :harold:

[Magic]

The general attitude towards teachers in this country is absolutely disgusting, to be honest.

It's one of the most demanding jobs going.

Through ball from public sector.

[Lewis]

Just to go back to Jim mentioning cancel culture. I’ve been wracking my brain on it and I’m struggling to come up with someone who’s an actual victim of cancel culture. Jordan Peterson banged on about his victim hood all the time but the only thing that seemed to happen as a result of him being cancelled was a million dollar book deal and him getting addicted to eating beef and snorting OxyContin.

That Mexican bloke who lost his job because somebody claimed he was doing the okay sign in a racist way in his car, that bloke who lost his business because his teenage daughter posted some shit online, Goodyear employees being threatened with the sack for supporting certain political/social causes... The celebrities aren't the point, which is why every 'cancel culture isn't real' wankpiece only talks about them.

[niko_cee]

Mesut Ozil!

[Lewis]

You've also got the recent phenomenon of banks freezing political activists (and sex workers) out, which ought to be a big issue seeing as they assume taxpayer backing so ought to fulfil certain universal service obligations, but corporations are the vanguard for this stuff so nobody cares.

[ItalAussie]

:D Valley on New Years would be a cocaine fueled belter for some.

It is a classy place these days for the most part. Are you near James St?

Brisbane has been relaxed for months and months now. Dont look at your phone or the TV and you'll forget all about Covid.

I'm not far way - I'm basically at Bowen Hills Station. I run down to Teneriffe and New Farm Park a lot.

Being relaxed is really nice. I definitely limped to the end of the year.

[ItalAussie]

Vaguely related: the teaching aspect of my job was impossibly stressful this year. Online teaching takes so much extra work to just produce something vaguely acceptable, and students disengage immediately even if it's pretty good. It felt like a year of yelling into the void. I can't even begin to imagine how school teachers are doing it.

Part of me thinks we should have just paused education entirely for a year, but I can't think of a way it could be done.

[Kikó]

You've also got the recent phenomenon of banks freezing political activists (and sex workers) out, which ought to be a big issue seeing as they assume taxpayer backing so ought to fulfil certain universal service obligations, but corporations are the vanguard for this stuff so nobody cares.

Which political activists and sex workers are you referring to?

Banks have loads of restrictions on whom they can service. There's nothing universal about them.

[Lewis]

In this country those Patriotic Alternative idiots had their accounts closed, and various Trump-supporting bods have had their accounts and payment methods spiked. The sex work there are loads of examples of banks making it hard for prossies and sex shops and the like with morality clauses (lol) and suspicious transaction flags, and several credit card companies have just blocked Pornhub as well because they have unknowingly hosted various unlawful things, the logic of which will presumably stop you paying for any internet services or using your Visa in China any time now.

[Kikó]

Well that's to do with anti money laundering regulation and the reputational risk of providing banking services for illegal activities.

Financial institutions decide what level of risk they want to take on.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Poring over the stats today (knowing the actual up to date numbers as opposed to the media narrative is one of the only things that keeps me sane), think we're now looking at a steady easing in London/south east from about a week's time and maybe an increase in other parts of the south (M3 corridor) and the north west.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-55514853

Open the churches. Forcibly.

[igor_balis]

Well that's to do with anti money laundering regulation and the reputational risk of providing banking services for illegal activities.

Financial institutions decide what level of risk they want to take on.

Yeah from my experience of working in a branch-based role, they were actually getting more and more trigger happy about shutting accounts. By the end of my 5 years, I started seeing far more angry blokes demanding to know why their accounts weren't working, and it was always "soz mate, we have no way of seeing WHY they've mad the decision, but terms and conditions etc etc".

I promise I never took pleasure from it, unless they were total cunts, but the conversation would always go something like

"you haven't got the right to do that!"
"well...actually, we do. even if you've done literally nothing dodgy at all, they legally can close your account based on even the slightest suspicion of dodginess".

I remember once some bloke recognising me in a pub, demanding I come to the toilets with him so we could "have a chat", and I stupidly agreed cus I was drunk and stupid. He sorta positioned me so I was backed into a corner, while his little roadman brother stood trying to look threatening with a bottle in his hand, and was like "WHY HAVE YOU CLOSED MY ACCOUNT, I'M NOT A DRUG DEALER, WHY HAVE YOU CLOSED MY ACCOUNT? I'M NOT A DRUG DEALER....I HAVE A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS...RENTING BOUNCY CASTLES. I'M NOT A DRUG DEALER", all in between taking massive keys of a bag of coke he had in his hand, and offering me some when he wasn't shouting at me.

I think I avoided a kicking by going "wait...mate, is it a personal account?" "YES" "ah! well they're being a lot more tight on closing business accounts that are being run through personal accounts (true), and they have probably shut it because of that, not because they think you're a drug dealer (maybe true)!", and he just suddenly smiled and went "oh cool! nice one mate!" and him and his brother sorta wandered off into the night.

[Don]

Don't fucking share tales of coke-fuelled boozer toilet exchanges in these times, you sick fuck :cry:

Jimmy better be right, if I'm not in my sauna come 14th...I'll be upset?

[Baz]

Have any dates been announced for reassessing tiers? Being back in tier 2 by 17th Jan would be good. Liverpool vs United in a pub is something I’ve not done since negrito-gate, I don’t think.

[Don]

They said every 2 weeks but no clear date given.

[Lewis]

Well that's to do with anti money laundering regulation and the reputational risk of providing banking services for illegal activities.

Financial institutions decide what level of risk they want to take on.

The political cases there aren't involved in any illegal activities. Gordon Brown wanted to force banks to guarantee basic banking services, but apparently the government didn't have much leverage over high street banks during his premiership so it never happened. It's a bit like the social media dickheads curating content whilst shirking publishing obligations. You can have it one way or the other.

[-james-]

Have any dates been announced for reassessing tiers? Being back in tier 2 by 17th Jan would be good. Liverpool vs United in a pub is something I’ve not done since negrito-gate, I don’t think.

Not a chance anyone is in a pub for that date imo.

[Kikó]

The political cases there aren't involved in any illegal activities. Gordon Brown wanted to force banks to guarantee basic banking services, but apparently the government didn't have much leverage over high street banks during his premiership so it never happened. It's a bit like the social media dickheads curating content whilst shirking publishing obligations. You can have it one way or the other.

In the case of a far right political party, it would due to the risk appetite of the organisation to be associated with them. I don't particularly agree that they shouldn't have basic banking services offered as long as all know your client checks come back clean but they'd be a high risk client and the risk-reward may have edged towards not bothering. Maybe if they were rich...

[Lewis]

So cancel culture is in fact real.

[phonics]

That’s not what cancel culture is and you know it.

[Lewis]

What is that then, and how does it differ from cancel culture?

[Kikó]

It's private business choosing who they do custom with.

[phonics]

Because it’s in the name. It’s cancel culture because it’s literally about culture not that laws are shitty. It’s ‘Political Correctness Gone Mad’ not ‘sex workers aren’t allowed a bank account’.

It’s about ‘the climate of fear’ in institutions. Just look at the Harper’s letter signed by JK Rowling and co.

[Kikó]

Again it's down to risk appetite and negative press. It's why correspondent banking is suffering because the impact of fines on not knowing your customer's customer was actually a front for a drug kingpin means it's best to just leave that market. That then leads to money falling out of the system and becoming even more difficult to track - see hawala payment networks as an example.

[Pepe]

Fear of negative press due to who your customers are sounds like... Yeah.

[niko_cee]

I like the idea of banks being bothered about money laundering.

It is, however, a useful ruse to stiff the rest of us if we ever want anything from the cunts. Trying to open a business account is beyond belief hard nowadays.

[Kikó]

Fear of negative press due to who your customers are sounds like... Yeah.

Derp.

[Kikó]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Enabling_Sex_Traffickers_Act

That's not cancel culture. That's bad legislation.

[Lewis]

Because it’s in the name. It’s cancel culture because it’s literally about culture not that laws are shitty. It’s ‘Political Correctness Gone Mad’ not ‘sex workers aren’t allowed a bank account’.

It’s about ‘the climate of fear’ in institutions. Just look at the Harper’s letter signed by JK Rowling and co.

What about the other examples you've ignored?

[phonics]

One of them you said nothing happened to and I googled ‘dad losing his business because his daughter chatted shit online’ and didn’t find anything so it was an absolutely compelling case.

[Lewis]

You are a retard.

[phonics]

Watch out, with this current atmosphere Of cancel culture you’ll be shunned from society For saying that.

[Shindig]

Not this society.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/03/coronavirus-restrictions-probably-about-to-get-tougher-says-boris-johnson

Ain't no fuckin saunas in Jan, is there? Cunts.

[Lofty]

Mesut Ozil!

Cancelled for being a lazy cunt.

Teachers get screwed over all the time, the general public's opinion of them is shameful. Teachers need decent qualifications to work long hours (when factoring in marking, planning etc) for a relative pittance compared to jobs in other fields requiring similar qualifications (or indeed less). Good teachers do it purely because they really want to help kids and the response whenever the government takes a shit on them is 'lol fuck em' whilst simultaneously crying about how the kids need education without realising that making teaching more attractive might help a bit.

The same people who cry about strikes being inconvenient for them as if that isn't the point.

[igor_balis]

The kind of people who moan about teachers are just insecure little freaks who slowly grafted their way to some shitty middle-management or supervisor job with their limited intelligence, and resent the fact that people quite correctly think teachers and nurses and firefighters and shit do a harder job and do deserve more respect.

I lost count of the amount of people I worked with during the #crisis who'd been with the bank for years and said shit like "WHY DO THE MEDIA KEEP JUST TALKING ABOUT TEACHERS AND NURSES AND BLAH BLAH when WEEEEE deserve just as much credit!" Er, no we don't.

[mugbull]

The people who say cancel culture doesn’t exist because private companies can freely choose to disassociate themselves from risky partners are the same people who say that taking race into account when giving out housing loans is evil racism

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/03/coronavirus-restrictions-probably-about-to-get-tougher-says-boris-johnson

Ain't no fuckin saunas in Jan, is there? Cunts.

Curfews are the stupidest idea ever, as it will just lead to everyone doing their necessary bits in a smaller window of time.

[Giggles]

The thread is about it being closer to 5000 cases and not 1700 because of the shambles that the health service is. There’s 9000 positive cases alone awaiting verification that aren’t on the system because they’re still documenting everything with pen and paper.

She wasn’t wrong anyway. 3000 yesterday, 5000 today and ICU cases doubled in the past few days.

[Manc]

Lockdown 3.0, what say you?

[Waffdon]

25k in hospital in England. 41% increase since Christmas. Sheeesh

[Jimmy Floyd]

Everyone's calling for a lockdown without actually saying what a lockdown would entail, compared to what we're currently in.

Which things need to be clamped down on more?

[Boydy]

Schools closed.

[Giggles]

The iron fist is needed now everywhere.