Coronavirus Death Thread

[Kikó]

I'd be more worried about the sale of our data to Palantir than multiple counts on a test.

[Spikey M]

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Well butter my balls.

[Kikó]

van Morrison joins Ian Brown, Liam Gallagher and Jim Corr in calling out the slow descent into tyranny Covid is bringing.

Looking forward to the new supergroup.

[Shindig]

They need a drummer. Is Phil Collins off the deep end?

[Kikó]

Isn't that Jim?

[Baz]

BIG ANNOUNCMENT at 11ish.

Embargoed til 11. :eyemouth:

I will say it’s definitely not being implemented soon enough, mind you.

[Don]

Are you working at No. 10 these days? Cummings called for wild cards not business cards.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The general consensus seems to be that we're falling down because they're counting the 3(?) swabs that make up 1 test as 3 separate tests.

But I don't know if that's actually true, because the test they sent me only had 1 swab. Perhaps the ones they do at the test sites are different?

Test site I went to was a 1 swabber.

[Spikey M]

So this 'one test is being counted 3 times' stuff is bullshit?

[John Arne]

Queensland has opened the borders up to . . . the ACT...

Are we about to seize power? Can we rely on Vietnam in these uncertain times?

We're completely back to normal now :p And we still aren't letting Aussies back in :)

We even opened up 6 international flight routes (Guangzhou, Seoul, Vientiane, Phnom Penh, Taipei and Tokyo)... however, that could be a disaster waiting to happen.

Economy also managed to keep its head above water (just), 1.81% growth on last year for the first half of the year. I would expect that to drop second half of the year once export trade continues to slow down.

Viva el comunismo.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54199642

This comes across as a load of waffle.


The possible measures being discussed - described by the government as a "circuit break" - include asking some hospitality businesses to close, or limiting the opening hours of some pubs and restaurants nationwide.

Yeah because shutting down Pete's Fish Bar on Yarmouth front is a real circuit break.

[Magic]

This wild knee-jerk shit really has brought out the worst in people. From Dave who won't get tested because he doesn't want his local pub to close (due to the fearmongering of 1 case shutting down the entire country) and Susan who is so desperate to avoid her menial paid job where she hates her colleagues so is getting tested 3 times a week and self-isolating where possible ripping the arse out of furlough.

Nation full of freaks. It's also interesting to see how if you agree or disagree with any sort of Corona opinion/thought/"fact" you're immediately polarised in to being aligned with a political party.

[Lofty]

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Well butter my balls.

Ah Dido, makes Grayling's failing upwards look amateurish.

Lockdown in Lancashire, though I doubt it will mean anything compared to last time.

[Andy]

Seems like the north is all under some sort of restrictions now.

[Baz]

Not until Tuesday though. Roll on the pub on Sunday. :youpi:

[John Arne]

Not until Tuesday though. Roll on the pub on Sunday. :youpi:

I mean, this is a joke, right? Nobody would impose restrictions such as these, but then give everyone 4 days to get out and about?

Surely....

[Yevrah]

We've done it at every step.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It would cost everyone too much money to cancel things already arranged.

[Shindig]

We've done it at every step.

Ours were announced on the day before was put into place. You're still going to face problems from the press leaking it in advance, too.

[Giggles]

Dublin is LOCKED DOWN.


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[Pepe]

When the US was doing much worse than Europe everyone was saying how it was all due to Trump's incompetence. Now that the US is DONNING Europe, do we credit Trump for it?

[Giggles]

The US is donning nothing.

[Shindig]

I'd say no because ultimately New York's lockdown worked a treat. 14 deaths statewide yesterday whereas the national picture has 1000+

[phonics]

When the US was doing much worse than Europe everyone was saying how it was all due to Trump's incompetence. Now that the US is DONNING Europe, do we credit Trump for it?

It’s weird that the US’s numbers looked more normal the day the White House was made responsible for the numbers not the CDC.

[Lofty]

Have you not heard the US case numbers are lower than the world?

[Don]

Iran leading the way yet again with a third wave.

[Dquincy]

They're doing it again. "Flights to nowhere". They're selling out, but I really can't see the appeal.

http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-flight-to-nowhere-gives-travellers-their-plane-fix-in-1300-mile-sightseeing-trip-12076072

[Byron]

They’re literally pissing their money away, idiots.

[Shindig]

Seeing shit from really high up has an appeal. That and takeoffs and landings are sort of cool.

[Spikey M]

No, no and no.

[Manc]

Hopefully one of the flights falls out of the sky.

[Alex]

Hopefully one of the flights falls out of the sky.

:D

I mean, I wasn't hoping it would happen, but my first thought upon reading that was "imagine if one of those went down". Imagine dying in a plane crash that involved a 1300 mile round trip to nowhere because you were missing flying. Fucking hell.

[Foe]

You’d be raging if they shoved you in an aisle seat.

Full support for idiots keeping the aviation industry going on pointless flights.

[Pepe]

If it was on an open top biplane or something, I could see the appeal. That seems completely ridiculous though.

[John Arne]

Deaths per 1m pop.

https://gyazo.com/08660d26e5f99b9a871789cae4f9af4c.jpeg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-54224544

I don't know why they're still surprised at this sort of shit now. This is what giving mongs a week notice does.

[Boydy]

Was in the shop earlier and some woman behind me in the queue was standing far too close. Turned around and politely asked her to step back a bit. She went "it's only a metre's distance, chill out!". I looked at the ground between us and said "that's not even a metre" (it was about two feet) and then she replied with "sorry if my spacial awareness isn't up to your standards". Thankfully the queue in front had then moved on a bit and I was able to move forwars and she kep her distance after that.

Pretty sure it's only 1 metre here if 2m isn't possible and the markers on the floor are 2 metres apart. But the queue was long enough that we were back beyond them at this point.

Some people are just fucking cunts though. How can you react like that to a polite request to give someone a bit more space?

[Don]

Would fucking love a bit of aggro like that directed my way.

I see French and Spanish deaths are there so I'm bringing the pots out ready for Thursday. The economic meltdown is going to be glorious, I'm gonna be like a king cherry-picking the finest youth gash in need of financial security.

[Giggles]

I’ve got abuse twice for wearing a mask in a shop (where they’re supposedly mandatory) in the past week. I’m starting to come around to gun culture.

[Spikey M]

My wife is exempt and has been given grief a few times. Luckily there's little I enjoy more than having good reason to cunt someone off, so I embrace it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm probably exempt and whilst I hate wearing one I'd rather wear one than face the sort of abuse I've read about online.

Although I've seen a couple of people around here not wearing one and no one has said a thing.

[Ian]

I can't remember if I mentioned that one of the staff in the little shop near me asked a woman if she could put a mask on and she replied "I don't have to I've got bad legs."

Oh, well, that clears that right up.

[Spikey M]

Most of the time it's just exaggerated huffing and puffing which is easily seen off by returning it.

[Dquincy]

Was in the shop earlier and some woman behind me in the queue was standing far too close. Turned around and politely asked her to step back a bit. She went "it's only a metre's distance, chill out!". I looked at the ground between us and said "that's not even a metre" (it was about two feet) and then she replied with "sorry if my spacial awareness isn't up to your standards". Thankfully the queue in front had then moved on a bit and I was able to move forwars and she kep her distance after that.

Pretty sure it's only 1 metre here if 2m isn't possible and the markers on the floor are 2 metres apart. But the queue was long enough that we were back beyond them at this point.

Some people are just fucking cunts though. How can you react like that to a polite request to give someone a bit more space?

Sounds like she was embarrassed and she reacted to it like a twat.

[Dquincy]

Taken from Sky News:

"France has recorded a further 10,569 new coronavirus infections in the past 24 hours.

The country's Health Ministry has also reported a further 311 deaths, with the number of people dying with the virus there now standing at 31,585.

3,894 people were admitted to hospital over the last seven days - 593 in intensive care."

That doesn't sound good.

[Yevrah]

10,000+ infections a day is horrific.

[Spikey M]

Oof.

[Lewis]

The people you tend not to see wearing them are also its core demographic. Good luck to the fat/old/ethnic bastards.

[Luke Emia]

Was in Berlin at the start of the week and everyone wore a mask and I do mean everyone - No fat people smoking whilst sitting in a mobility scooter then going in a shop and not putting one on or anything like that. It helps that it’s a fairly spacious city but I personally struggle to see a reason why over there it seems mandatory for everyone but here there are exemptions. The exemptions are what cause the issues by creating grey areas.

We also went to Brighton when we got back. Popped into Asda on the Friday morning it was absolute fucking carnage. There were people in there getting so close to me I would feel uncomfortable in normal times let alone now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did someone thumb it in?

[Luke Emia]

That would have probably been less intimate than the closeness from some of the old people in there.

[Lofty]

Some bellend tried to get shirty with my mrs as we attempted to use an empty till because he had been queuing for it a kilometre down an aisle and therefore unseen to anyone acting normally, then quickly tried to laugh off his initial tone as a joke when he clocked I was with her which was quite amusing :D

The general fuckery of shopping now annoys me though, I am usually not bothered but in some shops the fannying about and encounters with other customers have made me up for kicking right off with any clever cunts I encounter. Unsurprising it is boiling over in places and laughable some twats expect minimum wage Tesco staff to be enforcing it like the Covid Gestapo.

[Don]

Lofty sounds like he's on the wrong side. Be a tasty handicap match if you let me have a couple of these melts on my side.

[Foe]

Had an absolute melt behind me on a rare venture into a Poundland on the hunt for Dr Pepper zero (which appears to be extinct in Aberdeen). And by behind me, I mean I may as well have been giving them a piggy back.

Fat, mess of a lady complained about the mask being hot so took it down, and her heroin loving scrote of a boyfriend proclaimed like some sort of genius that she didn’t have to wear one, like him, because she could just make up that she has breathing difficulties.

Natural selection should be wiping these people out, courtesy of Covid. Unfortunately doesn’t seem to be the case.

[Lofty]

There was some rotund granny (I say granny, she was probably about 50 but haggard from a lifetime of costco muffins and life on the gritty merseyside streets) who was somehow stood closer to me than my wife in the queue at Costco yesterday, maskless. Dead by Christmas for deffo.

[Boydy]

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Just those two?

[niko_cee]

They're leaving the band.

[Shindig]

If they want to get their points across, they need all the TV Doctors they can grab.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The word going around south Croydon yesterday (I only hang out in the best places) was there will be a 2 week lockdown at half term.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Vallance talking about 50,000 cases a day? We're all fucked aren't we. I'm braced for a six month cultural screaming match between those who are happy and comfortable in a lockdown situation and those who can't afford/abide it.

[Magic]

50,000 a day and only 200 deaths is pretty decent IMO. :drool:

Clubs open please.

[Magic]

Also they're looking at targetting house-to-house transmissions in Scotland, which is great as they are impossible to police (unless you royally take the piss with massive seshes).

[Spikey M]

50,000 a day? That can't be right. That's 1.5 million new cases in a month. There's only 66 million of us.

[Yevrah]

It's based on the premise of it doubling each week, and could well be right.

[Spikey M]

Lol. Going to be a long winter.

[hfswjyr]

Had an absolute melt behind me on a rare venture into a Poundland on the hunt for Dr Pepper zero (which appears to be extinct in Aberdeen). And by behind me, I mean I may as well have been giving them a piggy back.

Fat, mess of a lady complained about the mask being hot so took it down, and her heroin loving scrote of a boyfriend proclaimed like some sort of genius that she didn’t have to wear one, like him, because she could just make up that she has breathing difficulties.

Natural selection should be wiping these people out, courtesy of Covid. Unfortunately doesn’t seem to be the case.

What is it with the exceptions rule then? Surely people who have trouble breathing are the people most vulnerable to the virus.
I would have thought the rule should be 'tough cookies, save your own life by wearing a mask'.

[Yevrah]

Lol. Going to be a long winter.

It's going to suck hard.

I also thought we'd be 'done' by Spring, but think we're looking at 2022 now.

[Spikey M]

What is it with the exceptions rule then? Surely people who have trouble breathing are the people most vulnerable to the virus.
I would have thought the rule should be 'tough cookies, save your own life by wearing a mask'.

For some people the mask in it's self is dangerous. Granted, the virus would possibly kill them, but self-suffocation doesn't seem like a great strategy to prevent that.

Plus, masks don't protect you, they protect others. It's essentially the same as Herd Immunity.

[Yevrah]

I'd love to see the research on why they don't protect you. They didn't protect anyone a mere few months ago.

[Andy]

50,000 a day? That can't be right. That's 1.5 million new cases in a month. There's only 66 million of us.

Makes you wonder how many people had it earlier in the year.

[Spikey M]

I'd love to see the research on why they don't protect you. They didn't protect anyone a mere few months ago.

That I can smell the bakery in Sainsburys is enough to convince me, but aside from unsupported meme's floating around Facebook I've no idea how much protection wearing one gives you / others.

[Spikey M]

Makes you wonder how many people had it earlier in the year.

Exactly this. I presume it's the carehomes really racking up the numbers, but yeah, 200 deaths per 50,000 cases is miles from where the first wave was so something smells off.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Based on the numbers they were dishing out earlier re antibodies, 5.3 million people should have had it. Reported cases are not even 400,000 in total.

If so, then the mortality rate would be 0.7%.

[Spikey M]

This is all so strange. It's just about dangerous enough to understand why we're fucking about, but not dangerous enough for it to be anything but irritating as fuck.

[Pepe]

I'd love to see the research on why they don't protect you. They didn't protect anyone a mere few months ago.

They do protect you.

The general idea is that masks are good at capturing larger droplets, but smaller droplets not so much (actually the "mid-range" droplets are the ones that get collected with the least efficiency, but no need to over-complicate things). So, when you wear a mask, the large droplets, which contain the most volume, get captured by your mask, while the smaller droplets get through. Those smaller droplets can get through both ways, so whatever gets through your mask will also be able to get through other people's masks.

On the other hand, someone not wearing a mask would be ejecting large droplets. Those tend to fall into the ground quickly, in any case, but your mask could potentially also stop some of them.

The important thing to understand is that this is not a 0/100 thing. It is not like masks capture every single large droplet and let every single small droplet through. They all have a range of collection efficiency per droplet size. They are not one-way either. So, wearing your mask protects you and also protects others.

EDIT: Massive gaps between your mask and your face throw most of this down the drain.

EDIT 2:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7185834/bin/nn0c03252_0003.jpg

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7185834/

[Yevrah]

I can't say I'm surprised. First rule of thumb with this pandemic is if it smells like bullshit, it's bullshit.

[Spikey M]

So what you're saying is that student was right to shout at you?

@ Big Pep, obvs.

[Pepe]

:D

No, because I was outside and nowhere near anyone (except for my wife). Any large droplets I generated would quickly fall to the ground a few feet from me, while the smaller ones would be dispersed by the wind.

[Pepe]

Did anyone watch this video btw? I tried to do something similar this summer but it was more trouble than it was worth with the equipment and time I had available.

https://vimeo.com/402577241

[Spikey M]

:D

No, because I was outside and nowhere near anyone (except for my wife). Any large droplets I generated would quickly fall to the ground a few feet from me, while the smaller ones would be dispersed by the wind.

And what if she had fainted at your feet out of pure outrage?

[Pepe]

She would have deserved it. Snowflakes and all.

[Shindig]

Makes you wonder how many people had it earlier in the year.

The Oxford study the BBC keep touting suggests 100,000 a day during the first peak.

[Yevrah]

My guess based on the numbers we do know is somewhere in the region of 5 to 10 million people. Probably on the lower side of that.

[Spikey M]

Which doesn't land too far from the 8% estimate to be fair.

[mo]

Took my son for a test last night at 7pm. Awful job getting the swab up both nostrils and keeping it there. But got the text at 6pm today to say he's negative, less than 24hrs for a result I thought was pretty impressive (don't think demand is particularly high in the South West though).

[Dquincy]

Took my son for a test last night at 7pm. Awful job getting the swab up both nostrils and keeping it there. But got the text at 6pm today to say he's negative, less than 24hrs for a result I thought was pretty impressive (don't think demand is particularly high in the South West though).

What symptoms did/does he have?

[mo]

What symptoms did/does he have?

A new, persistent cough. Rang 111 as is advised as he's under 5, they said he'd need to get a test so ring 119. Actually was impressed how quickly we got through and booked in - was on the phone at ten to six, booked in for 7.

[Dquincy]

Take that Daily Mail, you cunts!

[Yevrah]

10pm closing on Pubs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54242634

[Shindig]

Covid has a bedtime.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't understand what that will achieve other than run bar staff out of pocket for an extra hour or more's wages.

Might as well just keep their bottle and change nothing, if they're going to do that.

[Alex]

10pm closing on Pubs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54242634

Urgh. This is all getting so tedious.

[Waffdon]

All the pubs I’ve been in have been shutting at 10pm anyway during the week. 11/12 at a weekend.

I hate being out too late now anyway. 11am start until 8/9pm. Perfect.

[Yevrah]

I presume the 10pm is to get the bars emptied that are currently open until way past midnight.

[Offshore Toon]

That's just going to make public transport busier between 10 and 11 and increase the likelihood of afterparties.

[Yevrah]

Any whispers on what Scotland are going to do tomorrow?

[Waffdon]

Lockdown over October holidays nae doubt

[Spikey M]

I presume the 10pm is to get the bars emptied that are currently open until way past midnight.

For what purpose? It's not a Gremlin.

[Kikó]

Keep the pubs alive while doing a half measure on the virus?

[Magic]

Lockdown over October holidays nae doubt

Says 6 months' worth, so not a chance it'll be that. I reckon lockdown announced today.

Also got a holiday in York planned for Scottish school holidays which are before English. :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

If Scotland locks down they are mugs. It will have literally fuck all effect on infections and even if it does, by the time that shows up in the statistics they will be 4 weeks and about 100 domestic violence murders deep.

[Magic]

If Scotland locks down they are mugs. It will have literally fuck all effect on infections and even if it does, by the time that shows up in the statistics they will be 4 weeks and about 100 domestic violence murders deep.

They've politicised it beyond all recognition, and are totally convinced that the Scottish people want a total and utter lockdown, paid for by Her Majesty, to keep them safe whilst they sit and watch Facebook videos on INDEPENDENCE and ream their benefits.

Disgusting.

[Yevrah]

For what purpose? It's not a Gremlin.

Get the youth out of the pubs I’d imagine. I don’t think it’s going to make much difference either but I’ll take that over them being closed entirely.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/22/work-from-home-if-you-can-coronavirus-says-michael-gove

:D

Edit:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/sep/21/leyton-orient-covid-19-carabao-cup-tottenham-spurs

:D

[Ian]

"Hey! HEY! YOU LAZY SLOBS! Get back to work, Jesus Christ it's like you want Pret A Manger to die GET A TRAIN AND BUY A FUCKING SANDWICH YOU'RE BREAKING THE COUNTRY"
*pause*
"And just what the fuck are you doing out of your home, eh? Get THE FUCK back inside you're making the pandemic worse ffs"

[Don]

Given a lot of the disgusting commuter leech businesses were relying on September return to work, I'd imagine that's going to be the end of their disgusting trade. And if furlough isn't brought back (and it bloody well shouldn't), the fun really will be beginning now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Everyone talks about Pret, but the first priority is for Paul's bakery to go down with all souls. £35 tarte tatins at the wake.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/22/scientists-disagree-over-targeted-versus-nationwide-measures-to-tackle-covid

Look at Team Panic's weak shit.

[Dquincy]

"Hey! HEY! YOU LAZY SLOBS! Get back to work, Jesus Christ it's like you want Pret A Manger to die GET A TRAIN AND BUY A FUCKING SANDWICH YOU'RE BREAKING THE COUNTRY"
*pause*
"And just what the fuck are you doing out of your home, eh? Get THE FUCK back inside you're making the pandemic worse ffs"
Reading this currently sat in a Pret in Farringdon. I'm doing my bit.

[Spikey M]

reading this currently sat in a pret in farringdon. I'm doing my bit.

to spread the virus!!!!

[Ian]

Reading this currently sat in a Pret in Farringdon. I'm doing my bit.

Well you are simultaneously a heroic patriot doing his bit for Queen and country and a disgusting, disease-spreading bastard who hates Britain.

[Spikey M]

That's actually how Kent is described in the tourist books.

[Dquincy]

Definitely heroic. Try eating a chocolate croissant through a mask.

[Spikey M]

And that's the picture they use.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FTDDpX4llI

Weaponise the ice cream vans next.

[Magic]

Looking exceedingly likely that from today at 1400 there will be a 2 week CIRCUIT BREAK lockdown where everything is fucked, apart from primary and secondary schools.

To give that context, colleges have just started back yesterday. LMAO.

[Magic]

How is dentistry in England btw? We're still not doing anything up here apart from extractions. :harold:

(unless you're private then you can get what you want).

[Andy]

I don't understand what that will achieve other than run bar staff out of pocket for an extra hour or more's wages.

Might as well just keep their bottle and change nothing, if they're going to do that.

Probably to stop all the mongs pissing it up between 10pm and 3am in the pubs that are open and operating like nightclubs.

[Shindig]

Yeah, Boris. Bring the military out. That'll put minds at ease. As will the use of the word 'firepower'. :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hang on, this stuff will be in place for six months? Not a prayer, people will be smashing things up by then.

[Spikey M]

Boris is so bad at this stuff. How did he ever get this far up the political tree? Completely out of his depth. He's a flustered mess.

[Don]

Hang on, this stuff will be in place for six months? Not a prayer, people will be smashing things up by then.

This. Winter [and Xmas] :drool:

[Shindig]

His reponse to Starmer was so petulant.

[Spikey M]

Hang on, this stuff will be in place for six months? Not a prayer, people will be smashing things up by then.

It's a non-starter. The pub and restaurant closing times will stick, but anything that is in anyway unenforceable won't. People aren't listening anymore and they haven't been since Cummings went up the M1.

[Kikó]

His reponse to Starmer was so petulant.

His responses to Starmer are always petulant. He's shit at being challenged.

[Shindig]

I hope the government's next slogan is "Down the R's."

[Queenslander]

You're all soft.



Indonesia
Australian’s northern neighbour has one of the longest lists of strange coronavirus punishments.

Last week, eight Indonesians caught not wearing a face mask were forced to dig graves for people who had died of COVID-19 in the East Java district of Cerme.

Others found breaking the law were put to work cleaning public spaces or told to do push-ups in lieu of paying a 150,000 rupiah ($14) fine, CNN reported.



https://www.sbs.com.au/news/from-coffins-to-push-ups-the-inventive-ways-countries-are-punishing-coronavirus-rule-breakers?token=$1$q5fuCtIm$P6h7DMXdbRYmOveDAj7fi

[Shindig]

The Speaker's loving this. Throwing to different parts of the country like it's Live Aid. :D

[Spikey M]

https://i.ibb.co/F5v94ZX/20200922-134229.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/cxcQTbd/20200922-134201.jpg

It's going to do literally nothing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They fucking love an after party.

[Shindig]

And pre-drinks. We'll be locked down in December. It seems inevitable.

[Yevrah]

Can I watch the Scottish parliament live anywhere?

Was meant to be climbing Ben Nevis next week, but I'm assuming that'll be off come 14:30.

[Magic]

BBC Scotland. :eyemouth:

[Magic]

Here we go lads, will post updates in here (laced with my own take on them, of course).

[Magic]

Ooh the pundits reckon she'll do exactly the same to keep the message CONTINUOUS and easier to follow.

That means she'll undermine Joris and ruin the country and blame it on the Tories to make her case for independence stronger.

[Ian]

Don't feel compelled to give us a running commentary.

[Magic]

A lot of hideously ugly people in Holyrood in the background lads.

[Spikey M]

A lot of hideously ugly people in Holyrood in the background lads.

he's watching the mirror again.

https://i.ibb.co/F5v94ZX/20200922-134229.jpg

[Magic]

She's telling us about the DIRE STATISTICS that don't sound too bad at all. :harold:

[Shindig]

At one point Scotland's death toll was the 3rd worst per capita.

[Magic]

She's said she'll be going way beyond what England have done...

[Magic]

At one point Scotland's death toll was the 3rd worst per capita.

We had that anyway, from drugs, alcohol abuse, poverty etc. Nothing new.

[Don]

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Have we got a tweet button (can we get one?) Or do we have to type out the tags every time?

[Spikey M]

https://i.ibb.co/JCkFnhc/Screenshot-20200922-143420-Samsung-Internet.jpg

What do you mean they've closed the fucking mountain?

[Magic]

HAHAHA she's saying we can't visit any households. HAHAHA.

[Shindig]

We had that anyway, from drugs, alcohol abuse, poverty etc. Nothing new.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/scotland-third-worst-coronavirus-death-18400284

Nope, specifically Covid. Although England was 2nd at that time so .... take that win.

The current list has about half a dozen South American nations and Spain and Belgium above us.

[Magic]

What words is she saying? There's so many fucking ifs and buts and caveats here I've no idea.

[Spikey M]

Don't feel compelled to give us a running commentary.

:console:

[SvN]

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Have we got a tweet button (can we get one?) Or do we have to type out the tags every time?

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[Yevrah]

The mountain is open!

[Jimmy Floyd]

The mountain is open but you can't go round Dougal's for a beer afterwards.

[Shindig]

Unless you and Ben are from the same household or support bubble.

[Don]

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[Don]

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Superb.

[Spikey M]

I once worked with someone that climbed Ben Nevis whilst under going Chemo. It must be piss easy.

[Waffdon]

You can walk up a bunch of stairs the whole way. It isn’t difficult.

[Pepe]

No pub on the top though, so why bother?

[Waffdon]

Also, literally nothing has changed due to the amount of exemptions in place. It’s all time stop house parties, which were rife during the lockdown anyway.

People that live alone, couples, folk with kids, tradespeople and anyone looking after your children can all visit households still. Most pubs shut at 10pm anyway.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My brother in law spends half his life 'bagging' Munros (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munro) and says Ben Nevis is one of the easiest, despite being the highest.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPW3HEAX9GA

Looks like a nice hike.

[Lewis]

Behavioural Science baby. Six months lol get lost lad.

[niko_cee]

Ben Nevis is shit to walk up because it's shite weather between 355 and 362 days a year there, so by the top you're in the low fog clouds, it's all damp, rocky (like moon surface barren), fucking cold relative to the valley and full of confused looking and ill-prepared dickheads. The pub at the bottom provides welcome relief when you get there though. I suppose you could just bypass the hill and go straight in.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

HAHAHA she's saying we can't visit any households. HAHAHA.

Is anyone going to pay any attention to this?

[Waffdon]

There will be. Grasses will be out in full.

[Shindig]

175 on ventilators in England alone. It was only 60-odd a few weeks back.

[Giggles]

There will be. Grasses will be out in full.

:drool:

[Lewis]

There was some polling the other day that showed most people are reassuringly reluctant to grass, but then I suppose it only takes a minority to ruin everything.

[Giggles]

It's the ones that require grassing on that are ruining everything, though your type view is becoming all too common.

Loving the division in society though.

[Magic]

175 on ventilators in England alone. It was only 60-odd a few weeks back.

70 million people.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

How many people under 60 with no underlying conditions have died again? A few hundred?

[Giggles]

A few hundred too many then.

[Shindig]

70 million people.

69,935,000 :dc:

[Spikey M]

A few hundred too many then.

Probably less than the amount of people killing themselves after Lockdown bankrupted them.

[Giggles]

Probably less than the amount of people killing themselves after Lockdown bankrupted them.

Anyone kills themselves isn't any loss.

[Yevrah]

How many people under 60 with no underlying conditions have died again? A few hundred?

It’s a good job the over 60s aren’t actual people.

[phonics]

One bloke set his loafers on fire and we have to install a surveillance state and change air travel forever but anything less than 1000 perfectly healthy people dropping dead (ignoring all of the long term issues like heart/lung issues) is a shrug.

[Giggles]

It’s a good job the over 60s aren’t actual people.

Seems to be a growing attitude that 60 is the cutoff age for being allowed to live.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

A few hundred too many then.

And the cancer deaths that will come due to lock down delaying treatments and early diagnosis opportunities?

[Shindig]

That sentiment ran riot around here after the Brexit vote.

[phonics]

And the cancer deaths that will come due to lock down delaying treatments and early diagnosis opportunities?

So your point is that, we should go back to normal and cause more illness and more deaths so that they can die of something else instead?

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dktRNWxSlXY

I can't stay mad at that. :D

[Spikey M]

So your point is that, we should go back to normal and cause more illness and more deaths so that they can die of something else instead?

Or that applying blanket rules to all demographics is silly. Shield those that need to be shielded and continue with atleast some form of socially distanced, masked up normality.

[Pepe]

One bloke set his loafers on fire and we have to install a surveillance state and change air travel forever

We don't have to. That we did is fucking ridiculous.

[Pepe]

I suppose it only takes a minority to ruin everything.

You wot mate

[Lofty]

Seems to be a growing attitude that 60 is the cutoff age for being allowed to live.

Logan's Run :drool:

[Lewis]

There was some polling the other day that showed most people are reassuringly reluctant to grass, but then I suppose it only takes a minority to ruin everything.

And yet:

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At least we won't hear any moaning from all these cunts about unemployment etc. That's only fair.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The 45% must be a coalition of comfortable work-from-home plebs, and the hate-filled old people who haunt Marks & Spencer.

Can't be kids, can it? Kids (i.e. anyone younger than me) have lives to lead. I wonder if there's an age split on it.

[Don]

What's the business with M&S? I've only been in on a couple of rare forays so yet to build a picture but my brother and his ting do their weekly shop there so I fear at the breed of the demographic that regularly shop there. Is it all just autistic creatures who find Waitrose too mainstream?

[Jimmy Floyd]

There are tables in the link and it's almost completely uniform across social/identity divides. Not even Brexit vote predicts it (that normally predicts everything). The biggest variable is Lab/LD voters being pro-lockdown, but even that's not massive. Women like lockdown a bit more than men, too.

[Spikey M]

the only way an under 21 responds to a YouGov poll is with an egging.

[Dquincy]

How is dentistry in England btw? We're still not doing anything up here apart from extractions. :harold:

(unless you're private then you can get what you want).

We had our check ups and hygienist last week. They couldn't use the usual power tools for the hygienist (due to excess spray) so she had to go 'manual' which wasn't pleasant. And all for the delightfully expensive £180.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What's the business with M&S? I've only been in on a couple of rare forays so yet to build a picture but my brother and his ting do their weekly shop there so I fear at the breed of the demographic that regularly shop there. Is it all just autistic creatures who find Waitrose too mainstream?

Waitrose is for ponces and Lib Dem voters. M&S is for a lower class of person: dull, slow thickos with a bit of money and no imagination. A lot of them are old. I have a very clear memory of being in there once and a mid 60s woman angrily told the Asian checkout attendant (when they offered her a bag) to 'Leave me alone! When I want a bag, I'll bloody well ask for one!' and that sums it up as a clientele.

[Spikey M]

I have a bit of money these days, so we get our meat from the LOCALLY SOURCED Butchers and our veg via a smug and ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE "Odd Box".

That's when you know you've really entered the Middle Class.

That said, our Odd Box turned up with the below this week so we're on the ropes somewhat. Although we did get "kiwi berries" which are a game changer.

https://i.ibb.co/7YR1DRP/20200922-233042.jpg

[Dquincy]

Erm, stick this in Mahow's food thread. Or stick it up your arse.

[Spikey M]

How very vulgar.

[Baz]

I have a bit of money these days, so we get our:wanker:

[Mike]

Kiwi berries though...

[Giggles]

:wanker:

And he didn't even have to scam anyone to get it.

[Spikey M]

:wanker:

I mean, it was intentional, but how comes Keeks gets away with it without losing the respect of the common man?

[Disco]

We like him.

[Spikey M]

Well that's just mean.

[Baz]

I didn’t realise he did.

[Giggles]

Sorry what?

[Baz]

Sorry what?
how comes Keeks gets away with it without losing the respect of the common man?^

[Spikey M]

It doesn't answer the question being asked, but in a weird way it also kind of does.

[Magic]

Kiko is as Kiko was.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You'd have to be a simpleton to read that Spikey phrase as earnest.

[John Arne]

28th Feb 2020
Current Infected: 83,387
Current Deaths: 2,859
Infected but recovered: 36,630

The number of daily cases in China is slowing down, however, cases around the world are now increasing.
S.Korea with 2,022 cases and 13 deaths, the next largest being Italy with 665 and 17 deaths.


It's been a while....

Current Infected: 31,816,650
Current Deaths: 976,021
Infected but recovered: 23,420,746

[Baz]

Liverpool uni reporting 87 cases already and term doesn't start for another week. :chortle:

[Kikó]

I mean, it was intentional, but how comes Keeks gets away with it without losing the respect of the common man?

Expensive lobbying to push my ratings higher.

[Giggles]

Liverpool uni reporting 87 cases already and term doesn't start for another week. :chortle:

Class!


:rolleyes:

[Boydy]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-54268780


https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-500-dundee-students-told-to-isolate-after-suspected-covid-outbreak-in-halls-of-residence-12079184

Universities are going to be a fucking disaster, aren't they?

[Don]

Yes, if by disaster we mean fresher's flu being renamed and...?

[Boydy]

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Lol, as if that's going to happen.

[Yevrah]

I can't actually think of a single bigger form of spread than universities. They're all old enough to catch it and social distancing will be non-existent. All home in time for Christmas to spread it to their families too.

Carnage awaits.

[Lewis]

They should get it now and recover amongst themselves.

[Shindig]

I wholeheartedly agree.

[Pepe]

We've had fuck all cases in my uni.

[Spikey M]

We've had fuck all cases in my uni.

What a bunch of Nerds.

[Baz]

Too busy learning.

[Lofty]

Sunak announces a top up scheme to replace furlough.

[SvN]

It's absolutely crap.


So for someone on £2,000 a month working half their hours, they’d get £1,000 normal pay plus £333 extra from their employer and £333 from the government.

Yeah, really appealing to pay an employee 33% more than the hours they've worked.

[Andy]

I'm not sure why it needs the 33% from the employer. Surely that will lead to people being made redundant.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't think it's meant to stop redundancies, more to tide people over who will soon (or at some point) get back to normal hours.

A big step down from furlough though.

[Yevrah]

The vast majority of people who're going to be made redundant by this will have already been made redundant too (or serving their notice on furlough).

[SvN]

I can't think of any circumstance where it's useful to a business.

If they're struggling enough that they can only offer part time hours to a FT employee, I don't fancy that they'll want to pay them extra money as a nice gesture.

[SvN]

The vast majority of people who're going to be made redundant by this will have already been made redundant too (or serving their notice on furlough).

I've been interviewing people for a marketing role this week - I've probably spoken to at least 20 people. Every single one of them has been made redundant or at high risk of redundancy. It's brutal out there.

[Magic]

Marketing is pointless though, so they deserve it.

[Shindig]

I've been interviewing people for a marketing role this week - I've probably spoken to at least 20 people. Every single one of them has been made redundant or at high risk of redundancy. It's brutal out there.

Aye. I'm probably a fortnight away from learning my fate.

[Kikó]

My wife works in wine and one of the big companies who have had people on furlough for the entire period and now starting to just bin people off completely. It's going to be a real shit show in the next few months.

[Don]

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[Spikey M]

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:happycry:

[Lewis]

We've still got it. :cool:

[Alex]

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Perhaps the key to the vaccine will lay in Zlatan's blood, after he's bossed it out of existence.

[Yevrah]

Another one for the "good luck enforcing that one" bucket.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-54285720

[Waffdon]

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:cool:

Perhaps the key to the vaccine will lay in Zlatan's blood, after he's bossed it out of existence.

He is the biggest weirdo in existence. Covid would be doing a favour permanently fucking him up.

Speaking of Covid doing favours, students are banned from pubs and restaurants for the time being. Unreal :drool:

[Yevrah]

Yeah, good luck enforcing that one.

[Giggles]

Yeah, good luck enforcing that one.

The acceptance is the problem. Skulls need to be cracked.

[Yevrah]

After all their pissing and moaning about being sold down the river by the elderly on Brexit, it does make me lol the way they're behaving with this. Proof (that wasn't really needed) that, shock horror, all people look after their own interests at times.

[Boydy]

Don't really know how Brexit is in the elderly's own interest.

[Yevrah]

Don't really know how Brexit is in the elderly's own interest.

They thought it was, which is the point.

[Magic]

Hahaha amazing.

[Lewis]

Those Scottish university regulations are demented. We should ask for our money back.

[Waffdon]

It’s only for this weekend and for ones in halls, I presume.

SNP will still win 95% of seats and probably get independence in the next few years

[Spikey M]

Don't really know how Brexit is in the elderly's own interest.

Less forrins.

[Jimmy Floyd]

A successful Brexit would be more in the interest of younger people (for the opportunities or whatever it would create), but I would have thought a lot of older Leave voters were voting on the vague notion of getting things back to how they used to be in the good old days when they still had a sex drive.

[Kikó]

The 60s and 70s probably was great fun for a boomer and then the 80s an opportunity to buy their own home. There was still loads of foreigners (West Indies, South-East Asia etc)

[Spikey M]

I can't find any ethnicity stats, but there's no way the racial demographics of the 1970's are anything like today's. At school we had 4 non-white people in our year and 1 Kosovan.

My daughters class at school now is a full spectrum or races. The main cities have probably changed less, granted.

That's probably why it's all the little shithole towns that voted leave. Margaret and Bob can't say nuffink these days.

[Pepe]

There was still loads of foreigners (West Indies, South-East Asia etc)

Yeah but you could call them funny names back then.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Ethnicity across the country is 87% white.

There's definitely a sense in the regions about London elites having foisted multiculturalism/multiracialism on them without their consent (to what extent this is true is debatable). The central tension is them saying well hang on, shouldn't we have some say in what our locations/communities look like, and shouldn't everybody living here have a proper stake in the whole place rather than just their narrow ethnic community; and their opponents saying no why would you have a problem with any of this, unless of course you are a RACIST.

Personally I think it's much less about colour and much more about language - people really don't like hearing foreign languages spoken around them, it takes away their innate sense of place and makes them feel uneasy. It's easy to throw RACIST at any such feeling, but this isn't a rational argument, it's about feelings, and you can't control your feelings.