Coronavirus Death Thread

[Alex]

People are probably a bit too used to mugging the police off now, to be honest. It's times like these where I imagine it's sort of beneficial to live in one of those countries (and I don't even know what countries I'm specifically referring to here) where the police routinely go around cracking heads and everyone is scared shitless of them.

[Disco]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/52050109

This many asthmatics all in the same place has to be a bad idea.

[Vercetti]

:D

[Yevrah]

We need a bit of old school policing during this period, and with the rules relaxed for almost everything, it's a good time to be doing it.

Wouldn't advocate going as far as framing people for pub bombings, but a little slap as that barbeque was pushed over? I'm perfectly fine with that.

[Shindig]

I mean, putting 'attempted murder' charges on a malicious cough should be enough.

[Yevrah]

I mean, putting 'attempted murder' charges on a malicious cough should be enough.

Perfectly fine with that too.

Now is far from the time to be a cunt and we need to go in hard on it.

[Giggles]

3 more dead in NI.


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[niko_cee]

We need a bit of old school policing during this period, and with the rules relaxed for almost everything, it's a good time to be doing it.

Wouldn't advocate going as far as framing people for pub bombings, but a little slap as that barbeque was pushed over? I'm perfectly fine with that.

No thanks.

[Bernanke]

Canada's number (with an economy ~1/10th the size of the US) is about ~1M. Dark days.

EDIT: Bernanke, did you pull that off the web or do you have Bloomberg Anywhere access?

Twitter unfortunately.

[Giggles]

I'm all in on Yev justice. These young cunts with their corona challenge need a death among them from a beating as a warning to the herd.

[Luca]

: phonicsrage :

[Ian]

Yeah dystopia is definitely the answer .

[Bernanke]

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[phonics]

We need a bit of old school policing during this period, and with the rules relaxed for almost everything, it's a good time to be doing it.

Wouldn't advocate going as far as framing people for pub bombings, but a little slap as that barbeque was pushed over? I'm perfectly fine with that.

Only if the Old Bill can be sent round to slap about everyone who's suggesting such things first.

[Yevrah]

I'd take that too. Sacrifices need to be made.

[John Arne]

HCMC Government had to send out a city-wide SMS to everyone today to reject rumours that the city was going to be blockaded tomorrow. #Crackdown

[Lewis]

All these self-employed people and small business sweating on declaring their real earnings or not.

[Yevrah]

Rishi really is very good.

[Spikey M]

The amount of Tax Dodgers this is going to fuck :drool:

[Lewis]

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Good luck with that.

[Alex]

The amount of Tax Dodgers this is going to fuck :drool:

:drool:

Also my thoughts upon seeing it.

[Lee]

Rishi really is very good.

He’s great. No bullshit, no promises he can’t keep.

Also a lovely ‘afternoon, Robert’ after Peston swore.

[Boydy]

Lol at the journalist who didn't unmute.

[Lee]

Medical woman giving a tiny bit of hope that I’ll be able to leave my house at some point in the next six months.

[Offshore Toon]

Rishi sounds very similar to Blair.

[Yevrah]

Medical woman giving a tiny bit of hope that I’ll be able to leave my house at some point in the next six months.

It's not looking likely, is it?

While Furlough is a great idea in principle, it's also putting great strain on the people left working who aren't on it.

I need to get more booze in, I'm going to be an alcoholic by the time this is over. I barely drank at home before it started.

[Lee]

It's not looking likely, is it?

While Furlough is a great idea in principle, it's also putting great strain on the people left working who aren't on it.

I need to get more booze in, I'm going to be an alcoholic by the time this is over. I barely drank at home before it started.

She was talking about flexing restrictions over that period so we’ll get little bits of freedom returned to us over the summer, I imagine.

On drinking, I almost never drink at home. I’ve drank four times this week, including right now. I don’t know if it’s boredom or just coping with the doom.

And not that I want to excite Team Over by Easter but:

https://twitter.com/alistairhaimes/status/1242758184722477056?s=21

Presumably the mild winter meant fewer dead oldies, and now nature has come back for a bit of a laugh. It’s not entirely impossible that we don’t get many (any?) excess deaths from this. Imagine that, FFS.

[Boydy]

I'm actually pretty annoyed my job can be done from home now. Could've had a nice little holiday ffs.

[phonics]

China was locked up and back out in less than 4 months. No chance you'll do 6.

[Lee]

I’ll be waiting to nearer the end of June before definitely knocking Corfu on the head but once it becomes certain (i.e they do it for me so I get my money back) like fuck will I be wasting two weeks holiday at home. I’ll keep a week back and fuck off to the Canaries or somewhere else warm in the autumn before the winter covid return.

[Lee]

China was locked up and back out in less than 4 months. No chance you'll do 6.

It will be about three. Or as long as it takes to buy shitloads of working tests to see who has had the bastard and who has it at the time so they can keep them locked up for a bit.

[Adramelch]

China was locked up and back out in less than 4 months. No chance you'll do 6.

It was even less than that, but then again China's locked up and the west's locked up are quite a bit different.

Everytime I go out to get the supermarket and the likes, I still see quite a few people out. Sure it's not like it would be normally, but the weekdays feel like a normal Sunday or so in terms of the amount of people and cars out. Granted I live in the suburbs of Paris (so it's a bit less policed) but still.

[Yevrah]

On flexing restrictions, if the antibody test works I could easily envisage a time when those who have had it are allowed out before those that haven't.

I might start hanging round hospitals if that looks likely.

[Lee]

113 new deaths reported today.

Beth Rigby was saying earlier that the best rough way to look at these is add them to yesterday’s and half, as yesterday was a ‘crossover’ period while they changed reporting times.

So depending on your view either the world is about to end or things look stable. Best thing for now is to look at the total at this stage compared to the fucked countries. I’ll wait to see what tomorrow brings.

[Giggles]

On flexing restrictions, if the antibody test works I could easily envisage a time when those who have had it are allowed out before those that haven't.

I might start hanging round hospitals if that looks likely.

Nice change of pace from primary schools :checkit:

[Lee]

On flexing restrictions, if the antibody test works I could easily envisage a time when those who have had it are allowed out before those that haven't.

I might start hanging round hospitals if that looks likely.

They’ll let the immune and the young/low risk out together. Old and sick people are in for a while yet.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sounds like the whole company is unravelling back at HQ. The warehouse manager finally went to the MD to ask that formal 2m distancing practices be put into place for his staff, which would involve rearranging the furniture, which might take a couple of hours or so (apparently warehouse manager doesn't have the authority to do this himself). The answer was that management would discuss and advise NEXT WEEK. W/H manager went back to tell his troops this, and 5 of them walked out on the spot. MD then lost the plot and said they had all forgone a possible furlough by doing this (not sure on the legality of this statement), now the remaining ones are carrying on to continue getting paid but STILL not 2 metres apart.

I have never seen an organisation go to the dogs in such a short space of time as this. I'd be amazed if we're still open by this time next week. The worst thing is it was all completely avoidable. All the MD had to do was put in place a clear plan about two weeks ago about how to keep people safe/how to adapt working practices to deal with this, and then we could all have worked our arses off to keep the business going as best as possible from there, motivated by the fact that the company had shown it had our best interests at heart. Instead, morale has rapidly dwindled to zero and it's all down to the cowardice and lack of ability of what passes for the directorial leadership.

The real problem is that the directors are all shit-scared of El Presidente, probably because they owe their careers/positions to him and he is a controlling, devious bastard himself. As such, no one EVER makes a decision.

[Giggles]

We’re surely hitting double figures on new deaths today the way things are going in NI and mainland UK.

[phonics]

It will be about three.

They'll be sending you out way before that. No way Treasury is willing to pay people 25k to stay at home for 3 months.

[Lee]

Italian deaths are marginally down today, by the way. Lombardy cases and deaths both well up which is worrying until you remember that we’re 10-14 days from seeing a reduction in deaths resulting from lockdown and that cases are up because they tested a fuckload more and the proportion of positives is actually down.

[phonics]

Sounds like the whole company is unravelling back at HQ. The warehouse manager finally went to the MD to ask that formal 2m distancing practices be put into place for his staff, which would involve rearranging the furniture, which might take a couple of hours or so (apparently warehouse manager doesn't have the authority to do this himself). The answer was that management would discuss and advise NEXT WEEK. W/H manager went back to tell his troops this, and 5 of them walked out on the spot. MD then lost the plot and said they had all forgone a possible furlough by doing this (not sure on the legality of this statement), now the remaining ones are carrying on to continue getting paid but STILL not 2 metres apart.

I have never seen an organisation go to the dogs in such a short space of time as this. I'd be amazed if we're still open by this time next week. The worst thing is it was all completely avoidable. All the MD had to do was put in place a clear plan about two weeks ago about how to keep people safe/how to adapt working practices to deal with this, and then we could all have worked our arses off to keep the business going as best as possible from there, motivated by the fact that the company had shown it had our best interests at heart. Instead, morale has rapidly dwindled to zero and it's all down to the cowardice and lack of ability of what passes for the directorial leadership.

The real problem is that the directors are all shit-scared of El Presidente, probably because they owe their careers/positions to him and he is a controlling, devious bastard himself. As such, no one EVER makes a decision.

This is 90% of companies. None of the people at that level have ever had to actually make a decision that matters.

[Lee]

They'll be sending you out way before that. No way Treasury is willing to pay people 25k to stay at home for 3 months.

The May bank holiday piss ups will ruin any good work up to that point if so. They’re best holding off to June given that, combined with research suggesting heat and humidity slow transmission.

[bruhnaldo]

I hate when you guys share information but then caveat it and then caveat the caveat so I honestly have no idea what the fuck I've actually just read.

We go from "seems this is down" to "but that's only because" and "but really it's all about the underlying.." and i'm just headspun.

[Shindig]

I wish the antigen test wasn't an online application. You can sense a lot of 'I think I've had it' people will wind up blank. I'm basing that off the inverse where the vast majority of the people tested for Covid don't produce a positive.

[Lewis]

These Chris Whitty adverts I'm getting on Sky Go are some proper dystopian shit.

[niko_cee]

The May bank holiday piss ups will ruin any good work up to that point if so. They’re best holding off to June given that, combined with research suggesting heat and humidity slow transmission.

Get all the (remaining) old boys marching for the VE Day stuff.

:drool:

[Manc]

Queued outside Tesco for half an hour for eggs that didn't exist. This is miserable.

[Luca]

This is 90% of companies. None of the people at that level have ever had to actually make a decision that matters.

That's why the world needs management consultants. :nodd:

[Shindig]

Queued outside Tesco for half an hour for eggs that didn't exist. This is miserable.

:( Although I will say our Tesco is getting better stocked now. I saw proper meat in for the first time in weeks.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Ventured out for the first time since Monday to Asda, kind of spooky seeing everything so quiet but it was bloody fantastic, the shop was dead. Can we have a population cull after this?

Even at this time of day I managed to get most of what I was after.

[Alex]

That's why the world needs management consultants. :nodd:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgveuzf-ZZw

I know nothing about the world of management consulting, I just wanted to post this.

[Giggles]

My tesco order came the other day. Meat, pasta, fags, beer, cheese, etc. Everything except my Walkers Lime Pickle crisps :(

[Giggles]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgveuzf-ZZw

I know nothing about the world of management consulting, I just wanted to post this.

Consultants in every field (except medical specialists) will be the first to go hopefully. Pointless jobs. How they were created I’ll never know.

[Yevrah]

I hate when you guys share information but then caveat it and then caveat the caveat so I honestly have no idea what the fuck I've actually just read.

We go from "seems this is down" to "but that's only because" and "but really it's all about the underlying.." and i'm just headspun.

We had 75 deaths yesterday and we've had another 75 today. It's good news. For now.

[Lee]

We had 75 deaths yesterday and we've had another 75 today. It's good news. For now.

Afraid not. The 41 yesterday were from 9am until 5pm on the 24th. The 113 today are for the 24 hour period afterwards. So it is a decent jump today. But not an Italy jump.

This:

https://twitter.com/thejeremyvine/status/1243243397281972225?s=21

Is interesting. A statistician from Imperial has our maximum daily death total has being 260 on 5th April. There’s an upper sensitivity of 330 but even tha feels a bit optimistic if we’re at 115 in 24 hours now. 5,700 total deaths would be a fucking result. In fact I’d snap your hand off for the upper sensitivity of 7,100 of offered now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If USA peaks as soon as 8 April my name is Boris Yeltsin.

[Yevrah]

Ah, I see.

Those numbers look very optimistic. But what's going on in Spain?

[Lee]

Well, quite. Mind you, the Italian/Spanish numbers look believable.

[Luca]

Consultants in every field (except medical specialists) will be the first to go hopefully. Pointless jobs. How they were created I’ll never know.

In actual fact, business has been quite strong; now is the time to make difficult decisions and - as phonics alluded to, and Jimmy provides anecdotal evidence of - a vast majority of organizations are really bad at it.

[Lee]

Ah, I see.

Those numbers look very optimistic. But what's going on in Spain?

I think Spain is already outdoing Italy for cases on a day to day basis now. Or at least very close to it.

20% of all Spanish deaths to date have been in Madrid care homes alone. :sick:

[Yevrah]

"Following the growth trajectory of China" is the flaw in that.

I didn't see it initially, but when the title of a table you're looking at is 87 words long I think I can be forgiven.

[Lee]

"Following the growth trajectory of China" is the flaw in that.

I didn't see it initially, but when the title of a table you're looking at is 87 words long I think I can be forgiven.

I dunno. I think Chinese growth was pretty explosive too, even if the raw numbers were shit. He can only work with what he’s got, which is I guess why he updates it every day.

[Luca]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgveuzf-ZZw

I know nothing about the world of management consulting, I just wanted to post this.

Before the video loaded, I assumed you were going to link to this peach:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cyvmF7GD8o

[Yevrah]

I don't even understand how they've followed the trajectory of China. My head hurts.

[Yevrah]

But ignore me. I've been working for 30 of the last 40 hours and I'm exhausted.

[niko_cee]

That's why the world needs management consultants. :nodd:

Nope.

[Lee]

I don't even understand how they've followed the trajectory of China. My head hurts.

They’ll presumably have mapped real numbers to Chinese growth levels, which there is data for. I can believe that the Chinese lied about actual numbers but their reported exponential growth in both cases and deaths seems more believable. If you’re going to lie you’d not report as horrible a growth rate as they have.

[Yevrah]

I ate some of those pizzas today too. I haven't been sick yet but they were not good. Not good at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The world doesn't need management consultants, it just needs people to have some basic awareness of what's going on around them and act accordingly.

[Giggles]

In actual fact, business has been quite strong; now is the time to make difficult decisions and - as phonics alluded to, and Jimmy provides anecdotal evidence of - a vast majority of organizations are really bad at it.

As are consultants, it’s just that they’re making bad decisions to keep themselves relevant. And cost about four times as much for the pleasure.

[Luca]

You would think the consulting industry would have gone to shit by now if people could just simply 1) have basic awareness of what's going on around them and if 2) consultants just piled on the bad decisions, and yet...

[Giggles]

Most industry is needed so will survive despite them.

[Lewis]

If we end up with 5700 deaths whilst even Holland beats us, let alone comparable countries (forget Germany and their Volkswagen counting), it will be a donning for the ages.

[Yevrah]

It's mostly just a route to abdicate responsibility for a decision. And they also take fucking ages to do anything thus buying some time.

[Adramelch]

They’ll presumably have mapped real numbers to Chinese growth levels, which there is data for. I can believe that the Chinese lied about actual numbers but their reported exponential growth in both cases and deaths seems more believable. If you’re going to lie you’d not report as horrible a growth rate as they have.

The way the west is handling this is quite different from China though isn't it? Lockdowns are nowhere near as strict, but at the same time there's a lot more attention to the problem, so a lot more efforts towards testing, analyzing the spread etc etc. So not so sure you can use China's trajectory to get anything valuable.

[Giggles]

If we end up with 5700 deaths whilst even Holland beats us, let alone comparable countries (forget Germany and their Volkswagen counting), it will be a donning for the ages.

In a time like this across the world it’s hardly time for talking about donning. Such thinking is everything that’s wrong with your country as it seems to be a fairly blanket thought. Politics > *

[Lewis]

I bought some Irish butter the other day. Just for that I'm binning it.

[Giggles]

It’s a time for treating yourself.

[Shindig]

It's margarine, you fool.

[Luca]

It's mostly just a route to abdicate responsibility for a decision. And they also take fucking ages to do anything thus buying some time.

The former happens, but those are the worst kinds of clients to deal with - I try to avoid those looking for a 'rubber stamp' like the plague. That being said, the latter is often a product of the former, in my experience. On the whole, we move a lot faster than our clients, and working collaboratively means we sometimes need inputs that are slow to arrive.

I'm not trying to defend every practice that the industry engages in, by the way. Plenty of morally awful stuff happens, and there's plenty of publicly-available material on that (the NYT have been pretty vocal in this space, and done a great job). But the fact remains that in times like this, we (the industry as a collective) get unsolicited calls from clients who are genuinely concerned and feel like they need the advice. It's not a made-up service.

[Yevrah]

I'm sure like everything there are good ones, I just fundamentally think that in most cases if you need to pay someone to tell you how to run a business, you shouldn't be running that business.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The problem is that the industry isn't set up for times like this, it's set up to suck blood in normal times. If it was actually a crisis management service or similar then nobody would go on about it.

I say this with vast experience of working with and without them present. Accenture in particular can suck my balls.

[Kikó]

Consultants are needed mainly because you usually lack the skillset or the imagination to do it yourself. It's when you hire them to do remedial stuff it all goes a bit wonky.

[phonics]

I'm sure like everything there are good ones, I just fundamentally think that in most cases if you need to pay someone to tell you how to run a business, you shouldn't be running that business.

There are good consultants. There is no good consultancy company.


Consultants are needed mainly because you usually lack the skillset or the imagination to do it yourself. It's when you hire them to do remedial stuff it all goes a bit wonky.


Internal capacity is also a factor but no-one ever factors in how much time you spend managing them, I've always found it both cheaper and better to just hire someone.

[Luca]

I'm sure like everything there are good ones, I just fundamentally think that in most cases if you need to pay someone to tell you how to run a business, you shouldn't be running that business.

Therein lies part of the value, though, at least for the kind of work I do.

Running a business is hard work, and it often takes teams of people who work 9-5, 5 days a week (at minimum) to keep the lights on. Sometimes that means important things like doing the analysis to make decisions about the future, analyzing amongst acquisition or expansion options, etc. fall to the back of the pile. Sure, you can hire people to do it (and plenty of organizations have their own internal strategy teams) but sometimes that's costly and not always needed 9-5, 5 days a week, 365 days of the year, for many years.

So you outsource it to folks who are specialized in doing that, just like you might outsource security to Securitas.

[Giggles]

Consultant vs costly

:lol:

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

It's not 8 yet and people are clapping. This country.

[Giggles]

Christ they’ve just stopped programmes on RTÉ for a nationwide round of applause :face:

[Giggles]

It's not 8 yet and people are clapping. This country.

Ah. I thought it was just us being sad cunts. That’s not so bad then.

[Giggles]

I can hear fucking neighbours out at it too :D

[Lewis]

https://i.imgur.com/Iq7q5s5.jpg

[Yevrah]

Is encouraging everyone to come out of their houses to applaud the NHS (who can't hear them) a good idea during a Pandemic?

[Luca]

You'd think Americans would be well up for this kind of sad behaviour, but it doesn't seem to have taken off there.

[Yevrah]

Christ they’ve just stopped programmes on RTÉ for a nationwide round of applause :face:

Same on BBC1.

[Giggles]

https://i.imgur.com/Iq7q5s5.jpg


:D

[Josh]

It's just make vs. buy. And if the right decision is to buy (such as Luca's reasons) then as long as you complete a correct sourcing process you'll end up with a decent consultant doing a good job.

The trouble most of the time is that an organization decides to 'buy' and then doesn't put in any of the work and hire somebody/organization that is shit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Everyone in my fucking road was clapping. I clapped mentally, but only for Lee, RL and Dr Nguyen at my practice who is a bit of a geezer.

[Yevrah]

Some people in my street did it. Well, I say did it. I peered through the blinds and all they were doing was standing there.

They probably thought I was a cunt, but little do they know, I've done more than most.

[randomlegend]

Is encouraging everyone to come out of their houses to applaud the NHS (who can't hear them) a good idea during a Pandemic?

I heard. It was honestly quite heartwarming.

[Mike]

Had to turn the tv up!

[Mike]

I’m in work tomorrow, as much as I’d rather not be, I am looking forward to talking to people face to face (from a safe distance) and just doing my job for the day. Sounds really relaxed, so hopefully get to play some games with the kids.

[Yevrah]

I heard. It was honestly quite heartwarming.

Let's hope none of them spread it to someone else. Seems unlikely during a pandemic.

Glad people were buoyed by it though.

[Giggles]

I’m in work tomorrow, as much as I’d rather not be, I am looking forward to talking to people face to face (from a safe distance) and just doing my job for the day. Sounds really relaxed, so hopefully get to play some games with the kids.

Have they still not been closed there? Fucking hell.

[Giggles]

Let's hope none of them spread it to someone else. Seems unlikely during a pandemic.

Glad people were buoyed by it though.

Wankery designed for Twitter and Instagram.

[Luca]

Hopefully this encourages Lee to get to his meetings on time and in-person.

[randomlegend]

Let's hope none of them spread it to someone else. Seems unlikely during a pandemic.

Glad people were buoyed by it though.

The idea was for people to just come to their doorsteps and open the door right? So nobody should have been coming close enough to spread it.

[Yevrah]

The idea was for people to just come to their doorsteps and open the door right? So nobody should have been coming close enough to spread it.

The BBC were interviewing people in streets. No chance they weren't all drawn of their houses more and mingling as a result.

[Kikó]

It was heartwarming you miserable twats.

[Lewis]

https://i.imgur.com/qBtwgQJ.png

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

:D

[Kikó]

:henn0rz:

[phonics]

We've been doing it for a couple of weeks now. Should I just tell you what we're doing here so you can plan ahead?

[Mike]

Have they still not been closed there? Fucking hell.
Only open to children of key workers with no other childcare. I think we’re getting 20-30 kids a day, so staff are only in for one or two days.

[Giggles]

We've been doing it for a couple of weeks now. Should I just tell you what we're doing here so you can plan ahead?

Or warn us from the source of wankery.

[Lee]

Our whole street did it. It was a nice thing.

Until the sister-in-law messaged Lauren to say she’d seen us at our window on a video taken by her workmate who apparently lives opposite us. I was naked, for fuck’s sake.

[Waffdon]

The aeroplane clappers would have been having the time of their life

[Yevrah]

Our whole street did it. It was a nice thing.

Until the sister-in-law messaged Lauren to say she’d seen us at our window on a video taken by her workmate who apparently lives opposite us. I was naked, for fuck’s sake.

Come again? So many questions.

[Lee]

Hopefully this encourages Lee to get to his meetings on time and in-person.

I took the applause as being for my belligerent stance.

[Yevrah]

https://i.imgur.com/qBtwgQJ.png

That is brilliant.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Come again?

Bit of a personal question that, Yev.

[Lofty]

Half the fuckers clapping will be off out tomorrow to some meaningless task claiming 'It is essential for my mental health'

[Lee]

Come again? So many questions.

I’ve had an early night. I don’t wear clothes in bed. I went to have a look at all the commotion. I was filmed. Hopefully zoom was not in operation.

[Lee]

Bit of a personal question that, Yev.

He was at it with Josh last night. His 40th birthday wank is going to be some occasion.

[The Merse]

There was a street near me doing a round of Happy Birthday for some at 7pm, including trumpet and a guitar.

Didn't even realise the 8pm thing was happening, probably ought to have given yesterday I was taking part in a video call where about 15 of us were clapping the NHS for an advert to air at 8pm tonight. I also missed it.

[Giggles]

Half the fuckers clapping will be off out tomorrow to some meaningless task claiming 'It is essential for my mental health'

I didn’t think that drum could get any more of a banging but I’ve nearly heard more about that bollocks than the actual virus the past week.

[Foe]

Streets absolutely empty for my mooch tonight.

I decided to call my parents and chat to them which is a rarity. They hung up on me to clap at their window. :moop:

[Yevrah]

The material is growing.

This chap from the Lancet on Question Time is bossing shit. Proper real talk.

[Lee]

The material is growing.

This chap from the Lancet on Question Time is bossing shit. Proper real talk.

Hope or doom?

[Shindig]

Which ever Yev's most into at this precise moment.

[Spikey M]

It was heartwarming you miserable twats.

Was it the clapping it's self that warmed your cockles or the wonderful videos on social media that are in no way self-fellating?

[Giggles]

Yev’s happy. It’s doom. Lashings and lashings of creamy doom.

[Spikey M]

Our whole street did it. It was a nice thing.

Until the sister-in-law messaged Lauren to say she’d seen us at our window on a video taken by her workmate who apparently lives opposite us. I was naked, for fuck’s sake.

Link?

[Yevrah]

Hope or doom?

Slagging off the wanker from the govt. about clapping NHS workers while not giving them proper equipment and then lying about when it's coming.

Think he's about to get to our overall approach when he's finished eviscerating Robert Jenrick on PPE. He's certainly reminding me why I thought this would be a shitfest here though.

[The Merse]

A lot of noise around the different types of contracts, etc - hoping something get's sorted for freelancers who aren't necessarily self-employed as Mrs Merse falls into that category in Film & TV, often working as PAYE and only just recently starting some limited company/self employed work for a few jobs as she's getting more senior. She can sometimes for just a day on a production and still be PAYE, so she's completely stumped as to anything that might help her right now.

[Giggles]

Was it the clapping it's self that warmed your cockles or the wonderful videos on social media that are in no way self-fellating?

I’m wondering what that has to do with Shinners meat.

[Yevrah]

Which ever Yev's most into at this precise moment.

I'm into numbers. Some numbers lied yesterday. What can I say. I've been very consistent throughout though.

[Spikey M]

I’m wondering what that has to do with Shinners meat.

Self-fellating.

[Lee]

Slagging off the wanker from the govt. about clapping NHS workers while not giving them proper equipment and then lying about when it's coming.

Think he's about to get to our overall approach when he's finished eviscerating Robert Jenrick on PPE. He's certainly reminding me why I thought this would be a shitfest here though.

PPE provision at my place is a fucking mess.

[Yevrah]

Sadly Emily Thornberry is also on, which ruins everything. Albeit she is a bit less pompous tonight.

[Shindig]

I can't imagine Britain get much change out of PPE sources when everyone's after it. Especially if you've got some New Yorkers shouting the loudest. It'll be a frenzy.

[Yevrah]

PPE provision at my place is a fucking mess.

Doctors off the front line because we can't test them. Paramedics that can't do their job as they share a house and one of them has symptoms. Giving nurses parking tickets.

Jenrick is now trying to defend giving up on the contact tracing, claiming it was a success. Lancet man is in on him and has upped the ante by bringing in herd immunity. There's going to be a rape here.

[Yevrah]

I can't imagine Britain get much change out of PPE sources when everyone's after it. Especially if you've got some New Yorkers shouting the loudest. It'll be a frenzy.

If only this had started somewhere else and we knew it was coming.

[randomlegend]

It's been fine where I am for PPE so far, but one of the regs did a locum at another hospital at the weekend and was asked to go into a room of a covid positive patient, who was on non-invasive ventilation, without proper PPE. Infection control reckoned standard surgical mask, apron and gloves were fine despite the fact NIV is probably THE most aerosolising, high-risk thing you can possibly do.

He told them he'd do it if they came and stood in the room with the same PPE on and all of a sudden the proper equipment became available...

[Kikó]

Was it the clapping it's self that warmed your cockles or the wonderful videos on social media that are in no way self-fellating?

Definitely the clapping. I haven't watched any videos.

Misery.

[Giggles]

We ordered hand sanitiser from RS on the 2nd of March and it still hasn’t came. The van is at work delivering twice daily.

[Yevrah]

R below 1 PureGym man.

[Yevrah]

Lancet man "we have to prepare the public for 11/12 weeks of this and even then that may not be enough".

Pretty obvs, but sorry Lee.

[Yeldoow]

The US has overtaken China for most total confirmed cases.

[Lewis]

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He's basically a crank that bloke.

[Lee]

Stop fucking with my holiday. I’ve not reached acceptance yet.

[Yevrah]

That's disappointing. Chancer.

[Yevrah]

Stop fucking with my holiday. I’ve not reached acceptance yet.

I know I got brow beaten into conceding I might be wrong about air travel resuming quickly, but I still can't see how.

Jenrick really is shit.

[Lee]

Pretty sure he published Wakefield.

[Lee]

I know I got brow beaten into conceding I might be wrong about air travel resuming quickly, but I still can't see how.

Jenrick really is shit.

I think it’s gone for a year or so. I still hold out hope of getting somewhere in the UK in the summer.

[The Merse]

Sadly Emily Thornberry is also on, which ruins everything. Albeit she is a bit less pompous tonight.

I think she's been decent as usual, but I'm a fan.

Jenrick is dick, true to form. Harris managed to be far more convincing in his appearance.

[Yevrah]

Not sure who's going to stop you if you actually want to do that, whatever the rules are by then.

[Spoonsky]

If USA peaks as soon as 8 April my name is Boris Yeltsin.

I feel like talking about when the US will peak is a little like talking about when Europe will peak. This is a massive country and state governments have a lot of leverage, so you're going to see very different results in places like California, Florida, New York, etc.

New York looks pretty worrying right now.

[Lee]

Not sure who's going to stop you if you actually want to do that, whatever the rules are by then.

Hotels, B&Bs, caravan sites are all shut. Dunno about cottages. If we’re on the downward slope by late June/July then a cottage somewhere near the sea and quite appeals. I won’t go if it’s still everywhere though.

[Yevrah]

As for going on holiday, I'm genuinely more worried about still having a job by the time this is over.

[Shindig]

I feel like talking about when the US will peak is a little like talking about when Europe will peak. This is a massive country and state governments have a lot of leverage, so you're going to see very different results in places like California, Florida, New York, etc.

New York looks pretty worrying right now.

Yeah, New York's peak is more likely April 8th. A handful of states like Virginia just went on lockdown two days ago. I think what surprises me is how far ahead New York is. Or rather the other big tourist cities like San Francisco haven't took off in a similar manner.

[phonics]

If USA peaks as soon as 8 April my name is Boris Yeltsin.

This date is literally pure imagination created by people who 'want to turn the economy back on'.

[Manc]

Fiona Bruce would be a difficult shag.

[Yevrah]

Hotels, B&Bs, caravan sites are all shut. Dunno about cottages. If we’re on the downward slope by late June/July then a cottage somewhere near the sea and quite appeals. I won’t go if it’s still everywhere though.

You'd be able to find a private rental somewhere, surely.

Lancet man is talking about second and third waves now and my bullshit detector is off. You've either got rid it or you haven't and I've seen nothing to prove it's bothered by seasonality.

[Spikey M]

Stop fucking with my holiday. I’ve not reached acceptance yet.

What's happened on that score?

[Queenslander]

14 cruise ships off Australia and Sydney International Airport has been a mess this week.

[Spikey M]

You'd be able to find a private rental somewhere, surely.

Lancet man is talking about second and third waves now and my bullshit detector is off. You've either got rid it or you haven't and I've seen nothing to prove it's bothered by seasonality.

The 'hot weather will kill it' argument is straight up stupidity. It did alright in Australian summertime whilst the whole continent was on fucking fire (is that still going?).

[Giggles]

10 more deaths here today.


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[Queenslander]

The 'hot weather will kill it' argument is straight up stupidity. It did alright in Australian summertime whilst the whole continent was on fucking fire (is that still going?).

Nah it is out now.

We got in early banning flights from China.

[Yevrah]

Nah it is out now.

We got in early banning flights from China.

Have you genuinely contained it? You seem to have fuck all cases and deaths compared to elsewhere?

[Queenslander]

Have you genuinely contained it? You seem to have fuck all cases and deaths compared to elsewhere?

Done really well with community tracing and testing so far but we are still right at the begining of this with so many Cruise Ships coming back and Australians still coming home.

One absolute cunt of a human being got off a Cruise ship in Sydney then went to a birthday in QLD infecting 15 or so people.

Sydney is going to be our Lombardy without a doubt as they have had a nightmare working with border secruity at both Cruise ship terminals and at their International Airport. It is why all the surrounding states have closed borders with them.

QLD Health have been world class since day one with this forcing thousands of people into isolation since the end of January.

The PM is sticking to 6 months of this at least.

[Mazuuurk]

Sweden seems to be the last western country left that’s not on lockdown. We’re doin alright for ourselves, same number of daily cases as 10 days ago


It's all a bit weird. People are walking about here, doing their business. It's sort of scarce with people (or, really scarce really), all bars are mostly empty, but apart from that, not all that much different. You see ambulances driving around lots.

We've basically put an immense amount of trust into peoples own discipline and it remains to be seen whether it will work out decently. I kind of doubt it, unfortunately. We seem to be hitting day 0 about now, maybe today.

[Luca]

What the fuck is Trump talking about here?

[Mazuuurk]

BTW has anyone on here had it yet?

[Yevrah]

No one confirmed I don't think but then Yeldoo was the only one who got it early enough to get a test.

[Yevrah]

Are there any supermarkets/alternatives that I can actually order food from now?

[Queenslander]

Yevrah

https://www.health.qld.gov.au/news-events/news/contact-tracing-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-confirmed-case-notify-Queensland

[mugbull]

It's all a bit weird. People are walking about here, doing their business. It's sort of scarce with people (or, really scarce really), all bars are mostly empty, but apart from that, not all that much different. You see ambulances driving around lots.

We've basically put an immense amount of trust into peoples own discipline and it remains to be seen whether it will work out decently. I kind of doubt it, unfortunately. We seem to be hitting day 0 about now, maybe today.

Yeah case numbers have been on the up the last few days. To your point though, plenty of bars I walk by at night are pretty full. And every Espresso House is full of people chilling

[Yevrah]

What the fuck is Trump talking about here?

It's quite fascinating really. He can seemingly talk forever without saying anything.

[Mazuuurk]

Me I've been nursing what I'm convinced has been a bang average cold for the past 3 weeks. It's never really kicked off, but I still walk around with this very annoying but harmless dry cough. It sort of comes and goes. The thought struck me at some point what if this is it and I'm now immune but it's sort of wishful thinking, and besides noone around me seems to have gotten sick.

Still, it's a bit of a pain when you're out walking about, people proper shy away from you when you do a little cough, even though I'm very careful not to ever cough anywhere except into my elbow.
I mean, I understand them.

[Mazuuurk]

Yeah case numbers have been on the up the last few days. To your point though, plenty of bars I walk by at night are pretty full. And every Espresso House is full of people chilling

Are you in Sweden?

[Luca]

It's quite fascinating really. He can seemingly talk forever without saying anything.

You'd think he was a management consultant or something.

[mugbull]

Are you in Sweden?

Yeah I live here

[Kikó]

First confirmed death at my work in London. Underlying health conditions. No idea the age.

[Offshore Toon]

Having the same title as Luca. :drool:

[Mazuuurk]

Yeah I live here

Had no idea, since when? Sthlm?

[Spoonsky]

That must be the worst abbreviation ever.

[Kikó]

I think he lives in Mlmo.

[Boydy]

Are there any supermarkets/alternatives that I can actually order food from now?
I had a look earlier and everywhere seems to have their delivery slots full or are reserving them for the vulnerable. Not sure how you prove that to them but I'm not enough of a cunt to try and trick them.

It's shit though, I really don't want to have to go to a supermarket at all never mind possibly have to queue outside it for ages. If they were still open all night I'd happily go about 2am but they've stopped that.

[Luca]

Having the same title as Luca. :drool:

Brothers in arms. :drool:

[mugbull]

Had no idea, since when? Sthlm?

Since September. Yeah, going to school here at Handels but I live way out in the suburbs

[Luca]

Since September. Yeah, going to school here at Handels but I live way out in the suburbs

How do you like the SSE? One of my best friends did his MSc. there and raved about it. Are you there full time or on an exchange?

[mugbull]

Full-time, it's great because it's free and it's quite a decent school. I think it attracts a lot of hardcore finance types and the subject matter taught kind of reflects that, which is great in some ways (job security), but also makes the technical parts of the econ MSc i'm in quite a lot easier than I was hoping for.

Was choosing between Bocconi and SSE last spring. Thank fuck I didn't choose Milan :happycry:

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/26/covid-19-self-test-could-allow-return-to-work-says-public-health-england

The antibody test will be my nemesis. Just give me till June like you promised, you cunts.

[Luca]

This (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0003955&type=printable) is a fascinating lens through which to understand how the Atletico-Liverpool/Valencia-Atalanta matches may have contributed to the COVID-19 spread. The researchers looked at 3 typical reactions to a pandemic - ignore, hide, and flee - and concluded that those who 'flee' significantly exacerbate the situation.

At the extremes of their model, a population that completely ignores the disease basically has a 100% infection rate and the epidemic lasts ages, while a population who completely hunkers down has a fairly low (~28%) infection rate and the epidemic lasts much longer. However, if you suppose that only 10% of the population 'flees' while the others hunker down (or, in this case, travels back home), the infection rate spikes to 64%, even though the epidemic lasts for a shorter time than the "all-hunker-down" case (read: many more people get sick much quicker).

Of course, this is an agent-based simulation, and I'm just Luca, but it's one of the better things I've read recently on this. The conclusion is fairly self-evident (people traveling during a pandemic is bad), but the magnitude of 'how bad' given a (relatively) small amount of travel surprised me.

[Queenslander]

PM just said that all arrivals at ports and airports from 12pm tonight will be legally required to lockdown inside the closest possible hotels for 2 weeks before they can go home. The State Police forces will be strictly enforcing the Law with the assitance of the Australian Defense Force.

No more fucking around now these fucking boomers cunts cant be trusted so they need martial law to keep the rest of us safe.

Also all known people with covid who are at home will be getting checked on by local police 24 hours a day.

[Queenslander]

Also a great point made by Scomo is that people who keep pushing for stricter measures are those whose jobs arent at threat eg Greens politicians and journalists.

The way the Greens have carried on this week has been disgraceful. Constantly envoking mummy Jacinda, who shut down a country of what 4.7 million, so they can score points with their wealthy inner city base whose way of life isnt at all at threat by a lock down.

[Luca]

PM just said that all arrivals at ports and airports from 12pm tonight will be legally required to lockdown inside the closest possible hotels for 2 weeks before they can go home. The State Police forces will be strictly enforcing the Law with the assitance of the Australian Defense Force.

No more fucking around now these fucking boomers cunts cant be trusted so they need martial law to keep the rest of us safe.

Also all known people with covid who are at home will be getting checked on by local police 24 hours a day.

Paid for by the Federal Government?

[Queenslander]

Paid for by the Federal Government?

Cant remember if it is the Federal or States.

Derp.

[Queenslander]

Luca

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/international-travellers-returning-to-australia-to-be-sent-to-quarantine-facilities-for-two-weeks

[Luca]

You lot love a bit of quarantining in the best of times.

[Queenslander]

You lot love a bit of quarantining in the best of times.

Yes we do! But we save our prison islands for the brown skins. Us whites get the mainland experience....

[Bernanke]

Full-time, it's great because it's free and it's quite a decent school. I think it attracts a lot of hardcore finance types and the subject matter taught kind of reflects that, which is great in some ways (job security), but also makes the technical parts of the econ MSc i'm in quite a lot easier than I was hoping for.

Was choosing between Bocconi and SSE last spring. Thank fuck I didn't choose Milan :happycry:

I finished my BSc there in -17, you might have a few of my old classmates in your program. I never really quite took to the school because at a bachelor level it's really full of well to do inner city Stockholm kids who's parents both attended Handels and it all ends up a bit incestuous. I'm pretty sure that dynamic disappears a lot at a masters-level. The quality of the education was top so that's something at least.

I ended up doing my full masters at RSM instead of staying for the full duration.

[Queenslander]

New Zealand atm.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/412634/new-zealand-lockdown-rule-breakers-warned-by-police-on-first-night-of-alert-level-4


Police have the power to order any person to stop any activity that contributes to the spread of Covid-19 and can call on the military for support.

Yeah Id prefer the military outside hotels not roaming the streets.

[Luca]

I finished my BSc there in -17, you might have a few of my old classmates in your program. I never really quite took to the school because at a bachelor level it's really full of well to do inner city Stockholm kids who's parents both attended Handels and it all ends up a bit incestuous. I'm pretty sure that dynamic disappears a lot at a masters-level. The quality of the education was top so that's something at least.

I ended up doing my full masters at RSM instead of staying for the full duration.

I did CEMS, so I know quite a lot of people from Handels/RSM. Probably have friends in common as well.

[John Arne]

COVID-19 Premier League Table at 27/3

The big news today is the continued upward trajectory of Western European nations, whilst Asian countries continue to fall.
With France, Netherlands, Austria, Germany and Portugal literally joining hands to climb a combined 11 places, whilst S.Korea and China dropped 6 places - clearly indicating that the more developed Asian countries have managed to curtail the number of deaths attributed to Covid, compared to the inferior cheek-kissing European neighbours.

Israel are a New Entry into the table, so far confirming a reported 3,035 cases, with 1.15 deaths per 1m Population. Sweden were relegated to The Championship.

Despite my bold predication a few days ago, Brazil actually drop to the foot of the table, confirming only an additional 1,064 cases, and only 43 deaths, since the last count 3 days ago. #InBolsonaroWeTrust

https://gyazo.com/6be2fb80e7bf1ac7291fbb2123a3eb01.jpeg

[SincereTheRebel]

COVID-19 Premier League Table at 27/3

The big news today is the continued upward trajectory of Western European nations, whilst Asian countries continue to fall.
With France, Netherlands, Austria, Germany and Portugal literally joining hands to climb a combined 11 places, whilst S.Korea and China dropped 6 places - clearly indicating that the more developed Asian countries have managed to curtail the number of deaths attributed to Covid, compared to the inferior cheek-kissing European neighbours.

Israel are a New Entry into the table, so far confirming a reported 3,035 cases, with 1.15 deaths per 1m Population. Sweden were relegated to The Championship.

Despite my bold predication a few days ago, Brazil actually drop to the foot of the table, confirming only an additional 1,064 cases, and only 43 deaths, since the last count 3 days ago. #InBolsonaroWeTrust

https://gyazo.com/6be2fb80e7bf1ac7291fbb2123a3eb01.jpeg

:lol:

[Yevrah]

Italy are holding on, but Spain are closing and the Italians would love it if they beat them, love it.

[John Arne]

Italy are holding on, but Spain are closing and the Italians would love it if they beat them, love it.

Like mid-90's Premier League football... I'm just waiting for the African influx.

[John Arne]

Also, fully expect the US to be in the Top 6 before too long. Florida alone could probably make a surprise entry.

[mugbull]

I finished my BSc there in -17, you might have a few of my old classmates in your program. I never really quite took to the school because at a bachelor level it's really full of well to do inner city Stockholm kids who's parents both attended Handels and it all ends up a bit incestuous. I'm pretty sure that dynamic disappears a lot at a masters-level. The quality of the education was top so that's something at least.

I ended up doing my full masters at RSM instead of staying for the full duration.

Yeah the Bachelors kids look like wankers. People who say the Chinese all look the same have never seen an undergrad seminar at Handels. These Swedish girls carrying their laptops to school in their arms because the Balenciaga bags they brought are too small for anything :rolleyes:

Masters programs are different, mostly due to the Germans

[thommo]

So Derbyshire Police posted up a video on Twitter showing people driving out to the Peak District to highlight that it is against the government advice, and it seems to have prompted hundreds of responses from people who can't believe they aren't allowed to go and drive somewhere for their hour of exercise each day.

The point being if everyone had the same fucking idea, the moors and countryside will be full of people stumbling over one another as they try and get a walk in. People don't seem to understand this isn't just an extended holiday from work where you can potter off for a long drive because the weather is nice. Just fucking walk outside at a quiet time and avoid people the best you can, is that too hard to ask?

[Foe]

So Derbyshire Police posted up a video on Twitter showing people driving out to the Peak District to highlight that it is against the government advice, and it seems to have prompted hundreds of responses from people who can't believe they aren't allowed to go and drive somewhere for their hour of exercise each day.

The point being if everyone had the same fucking idea, the moors and countryside will be full of people stumbling over one another as they try and get a walk in. People don't seem to understand this isn't just an extended holiday from work where you can potter off for a long drive because the weather is nice. Just fucking walk outside at a quiet time and avoid people the best you can, is that too hard to ask?

It’s not as simple as that.

If you live centrally then if you go for a wander you’re likely to pass more people than if you drive out to the countryside. Under both circumstances it’s down to the individuals to distance appropriately. Whether you walk along a street in a city centre or drive to what you perceive a quieter area, makes no difference.

Forests, national parks etc are huge. Avoid small trail paths and peaks and it’s probably safer than going for a mooch around a city centre.

[thommo]

Forests and national parks are huge, but as we saw last weekend, when everyone gets the same idea to have a walk out of town, it causes gridlock on the roads and you see walkways and paths looking busier than inner-city roads. This is an unprecedented situation we all find ourselves in and if that means we walk up and down the same street 10 times to get our exercise and keep out of people's way, then so be it. Plodding off for an hour's drive to the moorland just so the view is nice is not really sensible.

[Foe]

Forests and national parks are huge, but as we saw last weekend, when everyone gets the same idea to have a walk out of town, it causes gridlock on the roads and you see walkways and paths looking busier than inner-city roads. This is an unprecedented situation we all find ourselves in and if that means we walk up and down the same street 10 times to get our exercise and keep out of people's way, then so be it. Plodding off for an hour's drive to the moorland just so the view is nice is not really sensible.

There’s always going to be anomalies and it’s up to the individual to be sensible. If they turn up at a park and it’s hoaching go elsewhere. In the same way as if you’re wandering around a city and there was loads of people on the same pavement you’d deviate. Absolutely zero difference.

Proximity of cars means fuck all. Unless you decide to wait around and hold hands with those who decide to park beside you it’s irrelevant.

Appreciate the intent is social distancing but ultimately it’s down to the individual to do that appropriately. Shaming an old couple walking their dog on moorland (with nobody else around) is pointless. Who’s being harmed? Nobody.

[Lofty]

Woke up with a hint of a sore throat, pray for me lads.

[Manc]

Friday has taken on a whole new meaning.

[Baz]

Has anyone else’s local council scrapped recycling? We’re being told to just put everything into the “general waste” wheelie bin and it’s getting collected weekly.

I know we’re in crisis but it seems a bit negligent to me, all things considered.

[Boydy]

Has anyone else’s local council scrapped recycling? We’re being told to just put everything into the “general waste” wheelie bin and it’s getting collected weekly.

I know we’re in crisis but it seems a bit negligent to me, all things considered.

Yeah, they've cancelled recyclingbhere for thebtime being. I don't think the normal bin collection is any more regular though.

[Queenslander]

Western Australia has closed all gun shops. :uhoh:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-27/coronavirus-restrictions-announced-on-travel-across-wa/12096634?pfmredir=sm&sf232003675=1

[niko_cee]

Doesn't all recycling just go into landfill in South East Asia anyway?

This lockdown is mucking with my sense of time, every day just blends in with its surroundings.

[Shindig]

This 16 year-old dying in Paris sounds a little fishy.


Her sister, Manon, has warned that her death shows that everyone is a risk from Covid-19.

"Julie just had a light cough last week and it got worse with mucus at the weekend. On Monday they went to see the doctor and that's when she was diagnosed with respiratory distress. She's had no particular illnesses before," Manon told Le Parisien newspaper. Julie was taken to hospital and transferred to the Necker hospital in Paris where she was put on a respirator on Tuesday night. But it was too late to help as her lungs had failed.

Real sudden.

[Don]

Appreciate the intent is social distancing but ultimately it’s down to the individual to do that appropriately. Shaming an old couple walking their dog on moorland (with nobody else around) is pointless. Who’s being harmed? Nobody.

Those who have to use the petrol station. People failing to understand 'essential travel' can fuck off, I'm losing my freedoms for cunts like that.

[Lee]

Petrol stations at the moment. :sick:

[Andy]

Life as a jobbing tradesman is pretty strange now, yesterday at 5pm the M25 and M4 were both dead.

The lockdown seems to be ramping up every day. I've still not been stopped or asked why I'm travelling. Yesterday I saw a park all taped off with police patrolling. I've been taking this very seriously for a few weeks but mow it finally seems most people are on the same wave length.

[SincereTheRebel]

It's scary. I haven't seen the roads so quiet since it was extra time during England vs Croatia in the semi-final.

[Lofty]

Boris has it

[Waffdon]

Big Boris has announced he tested positive. I can’t help but feel this and the Prince Charles thing are publicity stunts to try scare folk into staying in doors

[Boydy]

He just wants to get out of the briefings.

[Waffdon]

But if it’s actually true, this Corona really isn’t all bad. Seems to attack the right sort of people. Kussenburg next, please

[Shindig]

I mean, he lives in London and meets a lot of people on a daily basis. Of course he has it.

[Waffdon]

All these famous people catching it with absolutely no symptoms in their middle age or older. I’m not so sure.

[Spikey M]

Lol

[Jimmy Floyd]

What do they put in the water system in Dundee?

[Spikey M]

Buckfast.

[Foe]

Those who have to use the petrol station. People failing to understand 'essential travel' can fuck off, I'm losing my freedoms for cunts like that.

Take a drive out to the countryside and walk it off.

[Don]

All these famous people catching it with absolutely no symptoms in their middle age or older. I’m not so sure.

They're the only ones with a means for getting tested. I'm telling you, nunber of infected is clearly pushing 8 figures in UK if it's not there already.

[Spikey M]

Half of us have had it. I'm convinced of it.

[randomlegend]

Yeah it'll be really interesting once the antibody testing comes in to see how many people have had it.

Iceland have tested loads of people and found half of those positive are asymptomatic.

[Spikey M]

Holiday is back on Lee

[Spikey M]

Why aren't we making our own tests? (or are we?)

It's not exactly ground breaking tech that's required.

[Shindig]

We are making our own tests. It's just taking weeks or months because NEWNESS.

[Spikey M]

What a load of shit. China can turn a forest into a hospital in a week ffs.

[Shindig]

Construction is not science.

[Spikey M]

Construction is not science.

It is.

[Lee]

Holiday is back on Lee

I’ve seen the NHS England internal modelling today. Based on 75% compliance with current measures the peak will be during Easter week. April is going to be unpleasant, sharp reduction in demand through May and back to current demand levels (which are mostly low) by the final third of June.

London and the South East are respectively doing worse than the current projections, every other region either level or below.

We’ve got ~3 months to get widespread testing sorted so we don’t need nation-wide restrictions again.

[John Arne]

Anyone have any stats on total daily deaths in England per day. 2019 was 1400 per day, but it's difficult to find any data for now (Covid + everything else).

[Shindig]

The way I see it, the Covid deaths are in addition to a normal workload.

[Spikey M]

I’ve seen the NHS England internal modelling today. Based on 75% compliance with current measures the peak will be during Easter week. April is going to be unpleasant, sharp reduction in demand through May and back to current demand levels (which are mostly low) by the final third of June.

London and the South East are respectively doing worse than the current projections, every other region either level or below.

We’ve got ~3 months to get widespread testing sorted so we don’t need nation-wide restrictions again.

I go 3rd June. Can I ask you to rerun the numbers and present a response more favorable to my blind faith that it will all be fine.

[Lee]

25th for me. It’s not happening. It would be mental to open up to flights fully as soon as we get back to where we are now.

[John Arne]

The way I see it, the Covid deaths are in addition to a normal workload.

I fully expect so. But, I'd like to see the numbers. Italy is something like an additional 30% deaths per day.