Coronavirus Death Thread

[Spikey M]

English. Grandmother is Italian. Married to a Scot/Portuguese.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4f/7c/b2/4f7cb21bd187e4b0816a46bb415d1b9a.jpg

[7om]

So is Pence now running the government? If so, :drool:

[phonics]

Did you think Trump was running it before?

[Kikó]

Officially no. Business as usual

[Pepe]

It doesn't run. Someone just makes engine sounds in the background.

[Spikey M]

While I like the enthusiasm, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you can track the car to the hospital they mention.

He's going by Helicopter. :happycry:

[Lofty]

Was she talking about responding to a pandemic there?

No but it does chime with their general preference for abdicating responsibility.

Does Trump still have two twitter accounts, could only find one and it's been 17 hours since his last tweet, some kind of record?

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is quite reminiscent of when Boris had it, except Boris just went to a normal hospital (as if we have non-normal hospitals) whereas of course POTUS has his own suite with its own built-in ICU and so on.

[niko_cee]

Aye, the script is almost identical.

Mild symptoms, still working from isolation, precautionary tests, erm, intensive care, and, maybe for the Don, a box.

[Yevrah]

‘Abundance of caution’ is the phrase of the year.

[Dquincy]

The important thing about this Trump Covid situation is realising that his adviser, Hope Hicks, is rather tidy.

Apparently a former model. Well played, Donny.

[John Arne]

Sadio Mane :(

[Queenslander]

Good to see Melbourne packing those beaches as if they want to go into a 3rd lockdown.

[Giggles]

726 for NI today.

[Don]

770 in Northumbria University. The orgies that be gwanning in those halls for the next 2 weeks :drool:

[Lewis]

Haven't about fifteen of them got symptoms?

[Don]

Radio just said they'd all tested positive. 78 with symptoms apparently. 90% asymptomatic and we're closing clubs :***)

[Lewis]

Fortunately the curfew has stopped cases doubling every day.

[Don]

Just seen today's numbers and news about Cineworld closing till next year, this week gonna be fun. Full economic meltdown yet to be acknowledged, I wonder what gets that ball rolling, job figures later on in Dec/Jan maybe?

[Spikey M]

13000 new cases, up from 7000 last week. :happycry:

[Spikey M]

Bojo thinking of suspending the rule of 6 for Christmas. :D

[Lofty]

Just seen today's numbers and news about Cineworld closing till next year, this week gonna be fun. Full economic meltdown yet to be acknowledged, I wonder what gets that ball rolling, job figures later on in Dec/Jan maybe?

This is the first month we will see redundancy reporting following the end of furlough is it not? It jumped sharply as soon as the employer had to part pay the wages, I imagine it will jump tenfold now. My wife works in haulage and was overseeing a big money job for a customer the other day, her liason was updating her about the progress before a meeting the other day and then called back 30 mins later explaining she had been made redundant with contact details of the new liason, it's going to get brutal in the run up to xmas I think.

[Jimmy Floyd]

In certain industries it's going to be an absolute bloodbath.

The only upside is that at some point there should be a corresponding boom when stuff gets back to normal.

[Shindig]

It's brutal now, to be honest. Our voluntary redundancy scheme's been extended.

[Foe]

Won’t find out my fate until mid November. But it’s a blood bath and I’ve already made my peace with being let go. If it happens, it happens.

If it doesn’t, it’ll be horrid also as the organisation will be trying operate lean without the processes to let that happen without going full rogue.

[Lewis]

Does your work have decent carry-over into non-oil sectors? Because I think we would all love to see you attempt to live and work in the Middle East.

[Spikey M]

The trampoline would melt into his skin.

[Foe]

There’s plenty of industries I could work in. My degree is pretty much a “can learn something theoretical and apply it practically” and the graduate scheme I came through will be quite well respected.

I was debating applying for jobs in Iraq on rotation, based almost entirely on the uplift being about £90k a year on top of your salary per year to live on a camp 4/4.

However, definitely would burn and or be worried 24/7 about being gunned down.

Other place I considered was Baku. Which could well become a war zone.

[Giggles]

Or just get a normal job at home?

[Boydy]

Could you not go to one of the less violent oil states and make a shit ton for like a year? Saudi or UAE or something.

[Foe]

Yeah, not sure the market will be great but I’ve a friend working in UAE so it’s definitely doable.

Alternatively yeah, I can cash out, buy a house back in the highlands and just do something menial.

Hopefully they don’t sack me (I don’t think they will) but we will see.

[Giggles]

Looks like we’ll be going back into a full April style nationwide lockdown.


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[hfswjyr]

Yeah, not sure the market will be great but I’ve a friend working in UAE so it’s definitely doable.

Alternatively yeah, I can cash out, buy a house back in the highlands and just do something menial.

Hopefully they don’t sack me (I don’t think they will) but we will see.

Want to come work with me in NZ? Wouldn't be oil and gas (we've banned that), but I'm sure you could transfer your skills into other engineering industries.

[Giggles]

Just make sure it’s not too menial for the special one.

[John Arne]

Who would have ever thought - adopting masks early on would have been a good thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/05/did-early-focus-on-hand-washing-and-not-masks-aid-spread-of-covid-19-coronavirus

[Boydy]

Who would have ever thought - adopting masks early on would have been a good thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/05/did-early-focus-on-hand-washing-and-not-masks-aid-spread-of-covid-19-coronavirus

We still can't even get everyone to adopt them here.

[Giggles]

There was a crowd of wankers in Dublin yesterday harassing people into taking them off.

[Boydy]

There was a crowd of wankers in Dublin yesterday harassing people into taking them off.

The police should be cracking their skulls.

[Kikó]

Alright giggles.

[Spikey M]

Had masks been implemented during the first wave, when this was being taken seriously the number of 'exempt' people would be about a quarter of what it is now.

I'm not having Sally tell me she can't wear a mask because of her anxiety when she's chill about potentially catching a virus that's killing people off.

[John Arne]

We're 33 days with no community cases, but still masks are mandatory in all indoor public spaces. Still manage to forget it at least once a week.

[Don]

Wear the mould-infested masks that have little scientific backing. Take the nanotech microchip vaccine. Surrender to Bill Gates and his lizard chums.

[Smjffy]

I don't even find the masks all that bad. In fact, part of my likes my mug being hidden.

[Queenslander]

I still keep a mask in my pocket for taxis and public transport.

[Waffdon]

Track and Trace being done on Excel is a right laugh

[Ian]

Yeah I saw that and just assumed it was a joke I'd missed doing the rounds.

[Magic]

Feel like everyone is kind of glossing over the Cineworld news. It's an absolute tragedy our creative arts, culture and places of social interaction are being decimated for autisms and basically dead people.

[Boydy]

Magic, a man of culture.

[Giggles]

Cineworld :D

[Kikó]

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Using Excel is one thing, not understanding the limitations of columns v rows is hilarious.

[Giggles]

The police should be cracking their skulls.

That should have been going on from day one.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Using columns instead of rows in Excel is the most civil service thing I've ever heard.

[Ian]

It's the sign of a damaged mind.

[SvN]

Pretty sure me and my son both have it. He's got textbook symptoms, I've started developing some. He was tested Saturday and got a negative result, but I suspect it's inaccurate - we weren't able to get a mouth swap, and they reckon nose only isn't particularly reliable.

I've just done my own test.

[Spikey M]

What symptoms do you/ does he have?

Had to take my little girl for a test on Friday (temperature and cough), came back negative within 24 hours so they're quick enough.

The actual testing sites are a bit third world, mind. It looks like one of those WHO tents that pitch up whenever Cholera hits a remote village... but it is in Southend so fair fucks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

RIP in pieces.

[Don]

I could have told you you had a damaged mind years ago. Of course it's gonna be passed on to your son.

[Giggles]

The fucking pussies only went for a nationwide level 3.


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"Enforcement" :harold:

[Giggles]

Definitely needs to be a no confidence challenge to the government in the coming days.

[Yevrah]

Why on earth would they have gone for a full lockdown again?

[Giggles]

Because the National Public Health Emergency Team said to.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The clue's in the name with them. Politicians have the bigger picture to consider.

[Giggles]

The bigger picture is irrelevant.

[Shindig]

A second lockdown wouldn't shut the schools, for one. Unless they had cases.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The bigger picture is irrelevant.

If your only aim in life is not to die, then I'm afraid you're going to fail.

[Giggles]

Yes that’s the same.

[Pepe]

Don:

https://gbdeclaration.org/

[Don]

I'm not here to sign no petitions, I want blood on the streets. Or Jagerbombs in appropriately licensed venues.

[Giggles]

The Tanaiste just threw the Chief Medical Officer under the bus on his first day back to work. It’s going to get interesting at least.

[phonics]

Our local underground rave place has been allowed to reopen... with table seating. Breakbeat with bottle service is a novel concept.

[Shindig]

As is an underground establishment being allowed to reopen. Unless it's physically underground like Jimmy Allan's or something.

[John Arne]

Shaqiri joins Thiago and Mane on the Covid sidelines.

[Magic]

These 'circuit breaker' suggestions from the SNaziP. :harold:

[Spikey M]

SNaziP :harold:

[Ian]

It's because it has an N in it, you see.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And they're Nazi's.

[Spikey M]

SovietNaziPolpot

[Offshore Toon]

Magweak Bladderson

[Giggles]

"Where was he for the last few months" :face:

Who elects these fucking idiots?


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[Magic]

He's right, implementing life destroying measures, based on political whims, without going through the usual voting process is disgusting.

[Waffdon]

These 'circuit breaker' suggestions from the SNaziP. :harold:

6pm curfew on pubs and restaurants? Lolz

[Dquincy]

UK covid testing capacity mid April was 26k. (Swab tests only)

Testing capacity is now 313k.

I'm sure there is a simple calculation to put a perspective on the current daily covid cases in relation to the first wave, but I'm too simple to know it.

[Smjffy]

:drool: Still going strong with the campaigning and today Sunak pissed off an entire industry.

Liam Gallagher was not happy. The mask is falling...

Protest outside parliament on the 30th went down superbly too. A number of MP's joined. We've got over 260 in our APPG now. I did the radio the other day and I've been invited to do so again on other issues.

I think my cooking days are gone.

I'd link my twitter but I fear Waff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So my cousin's daughter has been told not to come into school for 2 weeks as someone in her year test positive.

The school have said it's fine for her brother (in a different year) to keep coming in to school and her parents don't have to isolate (unless any of them develop symptoms).

Surely if they're keeping her away in case she's been exposed, the whole family should isolate because if she was exposed then they're exposed now.

[Smjffy]

Same here, Mahow. Sisters kid sent home as someone tested positive and now has to isolate for a week along with the whole of year 7.

I went to the same school and I specifically remember year 7,8,9 etc all in same corridors using the same facilities etc. It makes no sense.

Edit. That's the third school locally affected too and less we forget, we're in lockdown.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Same here, Mahow. Sisters kid sent home as someone tested positive and now has to isolate for a week along with the whole of year 7.

I went to the same school and I specifically remember year 7,8,9 etc all in same corridors using the same facilities etc. It makes no sense.

Edit. That's the third school locally affected too and less we forget, we're in lockdown.

It's different now as they're all in bubbles etc due to the situation so a lot less mixing is happening.

However, if someone in that year caught it from the person who tested positive but they're asymptomatic they're going to pass it onto the rest of their family who then go on to pass it to others.

[Smjffy]

We've had a similar discussion as a family as my sister works for NHS so whilst she works my sister who's kid just got sent home looks after her baby but now with her kid and the rest of her family needing to isolate my sister has no one to look after her kid as he can't come here because I'm isolating due to moving back and my mother is classed as vulnerable and she doesn't want to leave him with people she doesn't know but equally doesn't want to not work as she's needed.

It's all levels of fucked.

[Don]

It's running amok in the White House 9 months into the pandemic but these mandem are out here thinking they can keep a lid on it in buildings of hundreds of drooling kids/horny students :***)

[Lewis]

lol at the 'creative industries' losing their minds because they thought the next Prime Minister was telling them to become plasterers. Sorry lads were you expecting to have your local theatre nationalised for you to sit at home?

[Waffdon]

No way they’d allow a male at 5ft2 to become Prime Minister

[Magic]

No way they’d allow a male at 5ft2 to become Prime Minister

He's brown as well lol.

[Lewis]

I didn't even realise he was a manlet until about a month into it, so as long as they get him some small furniture and keep him away from the public his tall man energy will do the rest.

[Spikey M]

Has he surrounded himself with dwarves ala Tom Cruise?

[Disco]

Dig a trench for everyone else like they did for Stallone.

[Waffdon]

Then new restrictions in Scotland. Hahahah what

[Ian]

Classic Nicoladolf Hitlurgeon amirite.

[Spikey M]

The Loch Hess Monster.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's different now as they're all in bubbles etc due to the situation so a lot less mixing is happening.

However, if someone in that year caught it from the person who tested positive but they're asymptomatic they're going to pass it onto the rest of their family who then go on to pass it to others.

They stop it at 1 degree of separation or otherwise you'd end up Kevin Baconing the country into lockdown from just a handful of positive tests.

[Lewis]

Hopefully they are keeping a Scotland-specific debt tally to be revealed during their next referendum attempt.

[Spikey M]

Jelly and Icecream when they're paying £30 per prescription.

[Yevrah]

More nationwide restrictions coming...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54457377

Top quality analysis from Kuenssberg again I see.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Closing down hospitality is braindead but it's clear they will just do any old shit to appear as though they're in control. It's also clear that England will follow whatever Scotland does because they don't want to risk Nicola having better results (Gove is said to be the man behind this strategy).

The public remain massive lockdown enthusiasts (every poll says so in massive numbers) but I wonder if this will change when it starts hitting home during a bleak winter.

[Yevrah]

It's reaching the point where it's getting properly insane now.

There is no exit strategy currently, so are people seriously saying they want to live like this forever?

And also, where are the stories of people going hungry, being kicked out of their homes and ending up destitute as a result of this shit? It must have happened, yet I haven't seen a single one.

[Spikey M]

I would back a lockdown purely because it's inevitable and the sooner we do it the sooner it ends.

[Yevrah]

As for following Scotland, Sturgeon's only doing more than us so she too can show that Scotland are better at handling their own affairs. Which if that one-upmanship continues, surely leads to one outcome and one outcome only.... SHUT IT (ALL) DOWN, SHUT IT DOWN NOW!

[Yevrah]

I would back a lockdown purely because it's inevitable and the sooner we do it the sooner it ends.

And the sooner we have another one.

I'm not sure you've thought this through.

[Spikey M]

It's reaching the point where it's getting properly insane now.

There is no exit strategy currently, so are people seriously saying they want to live like this forever?

And also, where are the stories of people going hungry, being kicked out of their homes and ending up destitute as a result of this shit? It must have happened, yet I haven't seen a single one.

Evictions are banned, so the homelessness isn't happening yet. And that's a massive YET. At present Landlords are only able to take action after issuing a 6 month long Notice of Seeking Possession or if there is more than 6 months worth of Rent Arrears. Then, the court have made it clear that Possession will only be granted if it can be proved that Covid has played no part in the tenants struggles. Which, let's face it, you'd have to be a fucking idiot not to claim.

Mortgage based possessions I'm not sure on, but I imagine they're in a similar situation.

I'm not opposed to them making evictions difficult whilst this is going on, we all know there's some unscrupulous cunts out there that would take advantage somehow, but at some point we will get back to normal and the Councils Homeless Prevention teams are going to get drowned.

[Spikey M]

And the sooner we have another one.

I'm not sure you've thought this through.

I have. I expect things will be ok again come spring, and in the mean time I'd rather a couple of mini-lockdowns than an 8 week ball ache.

[Shindig]

And the sooner we have another one.

I'm not sure you've thought this through.

The NHS can't handle this and flu season.

[Yevrah]

I have. I expect things will be ok again come spring, and in the mean time I'd rather a couple of mini-lockdowns than an 8 week ball ache.

Spring this year was fine...

It's not going away and it's going to come back again, the timetable of when is only altered by when we lock down and how long for. As Richard Madeley quite brilliantly put it, it's a never-ending game of hide and seek.

[Yevrah]

The NHS can't handle this and flu season.

There's not much to handle yet.

[Shindig]

Oh, yeah. Remember Spring when the NHS fobbed the oldies back to the care homes? Aye. Well handled.

[Giggles]

Off licences look to be next to go here.

[Yevrah]

Oh, yeah. Remember Spring when the NHS fobbed the oldies back to the care homes? Aye. Well handled.

What?

We're nowhere near where we were in Spring and the latest measures haven't even been in place that long yet.

[Spikey M]

Spring this year was fine...

It's not going away and it's going to come back again, the timetable of when is only altered by when we lock down and how long for. As Richard Madeley quite brilliantly put it, it's a never-ending game of hide and seek.

Spring was fucked last year because we let it get so out of hand in the winter. Summer was fine once we got the numbers down. It really does seem as simple as 'people inside: bad, people outside: good, which is why Queenslander and John Arne can nuzzle my chilly bollocks with their, tanned, smug, mask free faces.

[Yevrah]

Summer was fine because we basically shut the country for 3 months beforehand, 3 months later it's back again, which is exactly the amount of time it took to spread badly in the first place. Except it isn't as bad this time because we're actually doing shit about it.

[Yevrah]

Genuine question this, but is our strategy this time so woolly because test and trace is such a fuck up that we simply don't know who is spreading it and how?*

*Beyond the inside/outside common sense approach.

[Spikey M]

Summer was fine because we basically shut the country for 3 months, 3 months later it's back again, which is exactly the amount of time it took to spread badly in the first place. Except it isn't as bad this time because we're actually doing shit about it.

That isn't what happened though. The cases were dropping all summer despite increased freedoms being granted. I was cunting about at Peppa Pig World in July and they still kept dropping. The climb began in the middle of August, when the nights start earlier, and only really kicked off after Tarquin and Jilly fucked off back to school / Uni.

[Lewis]

If back in March the choice had been between this lingering in-and-out bollocks and what they were originally doing (which, in case we need reminding, was specifically designed to avoid any such lingering in-and-out bollocks scenario unfolding over the longer term), I suspect all but the biggest fannies would have taken the sensible option and gone with me and the government.

[Yevrah]

You're missing the lag in terms of how long it takes to spread from a low base and how long it takes people to get ill.

@Spikey.

[Shindig]

And there's been local lockdowns since. The kind of local lockdowns that don't actually restrict any significant movement.

[Spikey M]

For what it's worth, my argument isn't that we SHOULD lockdown, it's that we will so we might as well get the fuck on with it and get it out of the way.

I still stand by my 'we don't treat any other health condition this way' argument and will do so until peanuts are illegal.

[Yevrah]

For what it's worth, my argument isn't that we SHOULD lockdown, it's that we will so we might as well get the fuck on with it and get it out of the way.

I still stand by my 'we don't treat any other health condition this way' argument and will do so until peanuts are illegal.

Fair enough.

I know I bang on about this constantly, but it's the lack of an end game plan that baffles me. Correct me if I'm wrong (Lewis?) but no major 'battle' (as this has been likened to) has ever been won throughout the entirety of human history by 'winging it'.

[Shindig]

I don't think many pandemics have a game plan that doesn't involve waiting shit out. It's the thing that gets me about those 6,000 doctors going on about letting the 'fit and healthy' carry on and generate some herd immunity. Herd immunity takes a generation.

[randomlegend]

The two most likely possible endgames from what I understand are either a vaccine or the virus mutates to be less virulent (I've heard a few whispers at work that there's a suspicion this might already be happening).

[randomlegend]

Herd immunity takes a generation.

Is that true? I don't see why it would be.

[Yevrah]

The two most likely possible endgames from what I understand are either a vaccine or the virus mutates to be less virulent (I've heard a few whispers at work that there's a suspicion this might already be happening).

For my money the latter is the most likely, but that'll take, what, 2-3 years?

[randomlegend]

For my money the latter is the most likely, but that'll take, what, 2-3 years?

I don't know tbh. You need a virologist.

[Shindig]

Depends what protection prior infection gives you, whether the virus mutates and how effective a vaccine is.

[Dquincy]

The public remain massive lockdown enthusiasts (every poll says so in massive numbers) but I wonder if this will change when it starts hitting home during a bleak winter.

It's because the public are generally lazy bastards (and worriers). I've had someone at work complain that she's not comfortable coming into the office on the train twice a week. But on the other hand, she was happy to fly to Italy on holiday.

[Dquincy]

Donald offering free drugs for all.

http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-donald-trump-promises-to-make-the-covid-19-treatment-he-had-free-for-all-americans-12098760

[Dquincy]

The rumour is that stricter measures will be introduced by Boris on Monday and if that doesn't work they'll do a proper lockdown over half-term for two weeks.

I don't think they've given the current restrictions a chance yet. As someone said, there is a delay of 3 to 4 weeks of the cases going up/down, so give a couple more weeks.

[Lewis]

Fair enough.

I know I bang on about this constantly, but it's the lack of an end game plan that baffles me. Correct me if I'm wrong (Lewis?) but no major 'battle' (as this has been likened to) has ever been won throughout the entirety of human history by 'winging it'.

The case against a general lockdown was always how and when do you open back up; or, rather, how many deaths are acceptable week-to-week before smashing everybody else's lives up becomes preferable (at the time I said a thousand a day, which we never even got to, and that was more due to its psychological effect). The problem is that once we - both the government and the shithead public - embraced all of these restrictions, the answer was that we would accept any pisstake imaginable. Except actually we won't, because we all want our jobs and finances protected. We can't go this way, and we can't go that way, so... It's like the war in Afghanistan. They don't even defend it on its own merits anymore. They just claim to have averted half a million deaths, like those people who want to stay in Afghanistan to keep girls in school. How do you beat the Taliban? You don't. You just hope they give up or suddenly stop being maniacs.

Your best bet now is to see everything as the end in itself. This is it now. We are doing this indefinitely. Not because everybody wants to do it, but because nobody wants to do anything else, and all the complaints about tracing apps and mixed messages are utterly trivial. With that in mind, I don't think they are 'winging it' in the conventional sense. They are simply stuck, and, between the civil and health services being fucking shit, you can forgive a bit of trial and error with closing times trying to keep the plates spinning.

[Spikey M]

I think the end of this will be apolitical. People will just stop caring. 1000 deaths today? Whatever mate. I'm eating out to help out.

This is only dangerous to the vulnerable. Fucking stairs are dangerous to the vulnerable. The non-vulnerable will not inconvenience themselves forever.

[Dquincy]

There are 66 million people in the UK. 70 covid deaths today out of 66 million. There is no sense of perspective.

Yes there is a risk with it, but people forget that they took risks with their lives everyday before covid 19 was amongst us.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The mixed messages critique is the absolute worst critique that there is. Do those people want the government to make a decision and then stick to it regardless of (rapidly) changing circumstances?

Just because the average school mum and the bloke at the next desk to me are so fucking thick that they read one line on the BBC news app and then spout it as 'They're saying...' for the next two months doesn't mean that government policy should be done that way.

[Shindig]

The government would be a lot happier if they saw the numbers stabilise a bit.

[Yevrah]

The mixed messages critique is the absolute worst critique that there is. Do those people want the government to make a decision and then stick to it regardless of (rapidly) changing circumstances?

Just because the average school mum and the bloke at the next desk to me are so fucking thick that they read one line on the BBC news app and then spout it as 'They're saying...' for the next two months doesn't mean that government policy should be done that way.

Yep. It's so fucking tedious.

[Queenslander]

Premier Mark McGowan is a small time wanker.

https://i.ibb.co/TTrMhtV/FB-IMG-1602148023473.jpg (https://ibb.co/GJFQPRK)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-08/wa-budget-surplus-border-predicted-down-by-june/12743674

[-james-]

For my money the latter is the most likely, but that'll take, what, 2-3 years?

The Spanish flu had two major mutations in the first twelve months, I think, and the later waves were both more deadly and more contagious. I'm not sure why a virus would mutate to make itself less dangerous, but I really don't have a handle on how these things work.

[randomlegend]

I'm not sure why a virus would mutate to make itself less dangerous, but I really don't have a handle on how these things work.

Because it's host is more likely to spread it if they stay alive.

[Magic]

Because it's host is more likely to spread it if they stay alive.

Lol RL telling us viruses are capable of thought. Scenes.

[Disco]

That's either a shit joke or you're the stupidest man alive.

[randomlegend]

Lol RL telling us viruses are capable of thought. Scenes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/10/30/TELEMMGLPICT000036820544_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqRMPdAQh 26qjv-IIr3xDRU1qiEd_IfCIDgII5DVa_CFc.jpeg

[Spikey M]

That's either a shit joke or you're the stupidest man alive.

I'm going to need some IceBet odds on the latter.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If a virus were capable of conscious thought (or had a Night King-style general running the show) it would avoid old duffers like the plague, and go for the frolicking children, sex-having teenagers etc etc.

[Spikey M]

It sort of is at the moment. :uhoh:

[Offshore Toon]

At least we now know that Magic's family made a conscious decision to evolve weakened bladders through the power of thought.

[Disco]

Early adopters of (very specific) social distancing too.

[Shindig]

Because it's host is more likely to spread it if they stay alive.

Yep. It's why seasonal avian flu doesn't tend to stick around (Although H2N2 still hovers as a 'hey, if you're under 50, this fucks you' flu). This virus seems really good at spreading and jumping from species to species. It's not going to burn through a population and run out of hosts or time.

EDIT: Lol, 2000 Geordie students and counting. I've also discovered those Durham students are paying more for their shared accommodation than I am for my place. No wonder they move out of the city. :D

[Spikey M]

Universities are basically just the Covid version of Chickenpox parties.

[Adamski]

I have ze plague.

[Lewis]

I'm ninety per cent certain I had it in February. I had all of the symptoms, but the two things that made me question it were 1) my mother was around a few days afterwards, and she never got it; and 2) I thought I got it from the airport, but the symptoms came on a bit quickly for that. HOWEVER, my mother had some horrendous flu about four months beforehand (ending up collapsing and going to hospital), which could have given her a bit of resistance to it; and I had forgotten that I was in London the previous week, so if I got it there brushing past some foreigner then it would have been ten days-ish afterwards.

[Pepe]

Lolled it off with the greatest of ease just like Tronnie did as well.

[Shindig]

I've picked up my first cold for about 2 years and it's been weirdly aggressive, almost like the illness is in a hurry to fuck off.

[Lewis]

Lolled it off with the greatest of ease just like Tronnie did as well.

I stuffed my face and smothered it. :cool:

[Shindig]

And you blamed the Chinese.

[Lewis]

I still do.

[Adamski]

I'm ninety per cent certain I had it in February. I had all of the symptoms, but the two things that made me question it were 1) my mother was around a few days afterwards, and she never got it; and 2) I thought I got it from the airport, but the symptoms came on a bit quickly for that. HOWEVER, my mother had some horrendous flu about four months beforehand (ending up collapsing and going to hospital), which could have given her a bit of resistance to it; and I had forgotten that I was in London the previous week, so if I got it there brushing past some foreigner then it would have been ten days-ish afterwards.

I caught it from a PT at the gym :D

But yeah, so far it’s just been a head cold for me. Positive only came through today though so plenty of time.

[Raoul Duke]

I'm ninety per cent certain I had it in February. I had all of the symptoms, but the two things that made me question it were 1) my mother was around a few days afterwards, and she never got it; and 2) I thought I got it from the airport, but the symptoms came on a bit quickly for that. HOWEVER, my mother had some horrendous flu about four months beforehand (ending up collapsing and going to hospital), which could have given her a bit of resistance to it; and I had forgotten that I was in London the previous week, so if I got it there brushing past some foreigner then it would have been ten days-ish afterwards.

My wife didn't get it from me, so it can happen

[Spikey M]

My wife didn't get it from me

That's what they all say.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I still haven't had so much as a sniffle since January, which is unheard of, for me. I've been taking vit D supplements but that's about it, maybe they're the key to the game.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was last sick at the end of February and it's easily the longest I've gone without being ill.

[Boydy]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/08/planned-new-covid-rules-for-north-of-england-are-not-enough-say-scientists

[Jimmy Floyd]

If those guys ran the joint we'd still be in the first lockdown.

[Spikey M]

I hadn't been ill since last winter, but my daughter going to school has seen 2 colds in 3 weeks. They must have a Snot Swap Shop set up in the playground.

[SvN]

Our tests came back negative, which is a relief. Must be some other virus my son's brought back from nursery.

Guy at work has tested positive, but loss of taste and smell is his only symptom

[niko_cee]

Schools here seem to be employing some sort of three coughs and you're out policy which is going to be ruinous at some point.

Bearing in mind that I don't think we've had a case of community transmission since probably early April, and have had something like 8 cases all-in since then, it seems a bit mental to me.

[Adamski]

Our tests came back negative, which is a relief. Must be some other virus my son's brought back from nursery.

Guy at work has tested positive, but loss of taste and smell is his only symptom

I honestly think I’ve just caught the kids cold and that’s had an impact on the test coming back positive.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Schools here seem to be employing some sort of three coughs and you're out policy which is going to be ruinous at some point.

Bearing in mind that I don't think we've had a case of community transmission since probably early April, and have had something like 8 cases all-in since then, it seems a bit mental to me.

My observations from within the UK are that the more cut off / parochial an area is, the more of a petty tit they are about Covid. I'm sure that logic extends to our much-loved crown dependencies.

[Spikey M]

I honestly think I’ve just caught the kids cold and that’s had an impact on the test coming back positive.

There's false negatives but not false positives apparently.

[-james-]

Got a letter in the post from the ONS about their infection survey. They're sending someone to my house to take blood and swab samples for current or previous infection. £50 voucher for taking part and then £25 for any subsequent optional tests. Pretty good deal really. :cab:

[Spikey M]

Unless you need private Health Insurance in the future.

[Spikey M]

One in 240 of us currently have Covid according to the ONS.

[Magic]

York on Tuesday.

Feel free to quote when it gets locked down. :harold:

[Dave.]

One in 240 of us currently have Covid according to the ONS.

Any similar numbers on people who already had it?

[Spikey M]

Any similar numbers on people who already had it?

Not that I've seen, just pulled that from BBC News. It was 6-8% a month or so ago though. I think I read that Herd immunity starts making a difference at around 60% so... yeah. :happycry:

[Yevrah]

Any similar numbers on people who already had it?

We don't really know how many people had it, but if it was 5 million of us back in Spring then that'd be 1 in 13 and if it were 10m 1 in 6.5. Hard to know what those ratios would have been at their highest single moment in time too.

[Dave.]

Cheers. As I suspected, we're a long way enough any sort of herd immunity and a long way off the vaccine. Covid19 will still be with us in spring of next year I reckon. We'll be back to normal June at the earliest unless the government decides to return to normal with the situation similar to what it is now (which I doubt).

[Don]

Got a letter in the post from the ONS about their infection survey. They're sending someone to my house to take blood and swab samples for current or previous infection. £50 voucher for taking part and then £25 for any subsequent optional tests. Pretty good deal really. :cab:

Nanotech lizardry alert. That blood sample will imvolve an exchange :drool:

[Giggles]

Don’t know what’s going on in NI that they consistently have more than us. Has testing upped big time in the UK?

[Shindig]

Yep. 7-day average is 261,000.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54480815

Honestly, as if we are actually doing this.

[Lewis]

If those guys ran the joint we'd still be in the first lockdown.

I went to a lecture today by some big noise at Public Health England, and, as careful as he was to avoid saying so, you definitely got the impression he thinks we should have locked down in March until forever. Yeah right chief. Does your model account for fifty years of lost output?

[Shindig]

It's a real, real shame we couldn't just do 10 weeks of military rule in February and be done with it. Travel corridors with the Chinese, Vietnam and News Ealand.

[Queenslander]

Feels like covid never existed walking around East Brisbane/Gabba district this morning. Everywhere is packed with heaps of AFL fans getting ready for tonights elimination final.

[Yevrah]

I was looking at the UK numbers this morning and they're bad. Not Spring bad (were those numbers available), but they're bad nonetheless.

[Giggles]

They’re closing the schools for an extra week along with the normal week at Halloween so it’s likely we’ll get the full on level 5 for that period.

[Shindig]

Another thing we should be doing is getting the Nightingales out of mothballs. Make them dedicated covid wards instead of facilitating spread throughout hospitals.

[ScousePig]

Schools here seem to be employing some sort of three coughs and you're out policy which is going to be ruinous at some point.

Bearing in mind that I don't think we've had a case of community transmission since probably early April, and have had something like 8 cases all-in since then, it seems a bit mental to me.

We've not had a case yet and I know many other schools are the same. It's a difficult balance; the children need to be regularly reminded of what they need to do, but at the same time we don't want to over-egg the situation or else it takes over the day.

[ScousePig]

My observations from within the UK are that the more cut off / parochial an area is, the more of a petty tit they are about Covid. I'm sure that logic extends to our much-loved crown dependencies.

We're quite parochial and there's a bit of skepticism amongst many parents from my experience. Every family's different, of course.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54486269

Undergrad university is such a massive scam from top to bottom in this country, and covid has found them out just beautifully. The lazy criminals who get paid shitloads to run it need to be lined up for the firing squad.

[Spikey M]

I've seen it described as Landlord slavery which initially made me lol, but it's hard to see it any other way. They were told to leave home in favour of student accommodation and have been locked up ever since with online lectures and China style food parcels.

[Lofty]

That Scottish MP really brass necking through this Covid scandal to cling on to her wages and pension as there likely won't be another election for ages, love to see it :D

Edit: in world beating track and trace news, my mate just had his notification from track and trace that he needs to self isolate for 14 days. From 30th September :D

[mo]

This is doing the rounds on EduTwitter a lot at the moment:

https://skwawkbox.org/2020/10/10/breaking-proof-govt-has-told-track-and-trace-agents-not-to-trace-contacts-of-school-staff-or-pupils-or-pass-details-to-local-health-teams/

If true, might explain why my school haven't had a confirmed case yet:henn0rz:

[Lewis]

It's not often you see the Skwawkbox praising the government for its good ideas. Fair play.

[Don]

With numbers continuing to surge, have we not arrived at cases yet whereby places are now operating at x per 100k rates without any lockdown measures whilst some mining town was locked down a fortnight ago for a rate of about (x-200) per 100k? I'll have a look at data tomorrow at work but should be great banter when people cotton on to it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The north has indeed cottoned onto it, Lisa Nandy was on the telly earlier having a big moan.

[Don]

They really have painted themselves into a lovely corner with that premature shit. It's now either national lockdown or #clubsopen.

They still drafting the national tier system still I presume too :*)

[Yevrah]

Isn't Nottingham on about 800 per 100,000 now, with no local lockdown?

Where's a list?

[Giggles]

The GAA starts back here next week (normally a summer season) and they actually think it’s going to work out. I give it less than a month.

[Manc]

There's an increasing number of people not wearing masks on public transport. The message is lost. Open the clubs.

[Giggles]

Have you fines there? Hopefully we’ll have them in the next couple of weeks.

[Baz]

Merseyside being the only area getting the strictest lockdown suits me fine. :drool:

[Spikey M]

Why?

[Spikey M]

1315198740915982336?s=19

:lol:

[Shindig]

Strictly needs to adapt, like.

[Don]

Apparently it's a common dance in Czech which flips the lols round onto the outraged cretins in the comments section.

[Spikey M]

If it's a common dance in the Czech Republic then it flips the lols onto our boy Mockers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's the only way Mokkers dances.

[Spikey M]

We've not had a case yet and I know many other schools are the same. It's a difficult balance; the children need to be regularly reminded of what they need to do, but at the same time we don't want to over-egg the situation or else it takes over the day.

The school drop off is always a laugh. It's just parents left, right and centre rolling off their kids symptoms and why it DEFINITELY isn't Covid.

"He has a bit of a cough, but I wouldn't say it was persistent"

"She was a bit toasty this morning but she's fine now she's had some Calpol"

If it's true that young kids rarely catch / spread this then it is a massive bit of luck, because a third of every school would need testing every week and that quite plainly isn't happening. Not at my kids school, anyway.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm largely a government sympathiser in these times but this is pretty dystopian:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkHP--uX0AAIU8_?format=jpg&name=small

[niko_cee]

Does read a bit 'wanna cyber?'

[Shindig]

Nice of them to assume a muslim goes straight to cyberterrorism.

[Magic]

I'm largely a government sympathiser in these times but this is pretty dystopian:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkHP--uX0AAIU8_?format=jpg&name=small

Oh my GOD is that real?

[Don]

With feet that sexy Fatima better be going cyber on onlyfans :drool:

I got dressmaker.

[Spikey M]

1315576625812180999?s=19

[Queenslander]

Twitter is awful.

[Lewis]

As predicted, the wahey working from home brigade have started twitching now it threatens them. Do they expect the government to pay musicians and the like indefinitely?

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=47574f7a6e454dc6a42c5f6912ed7076

I didn't realise the extent to which this was all polluted northern bastards. Has Baz been putting Covid stickers everywhere in an attempt to get it locked down? Merseyside looks like a death camp.

[Yevrah]

We might need to annex the North at this rate.

[Disco]

The one hotspot in the entire SW and it's right next to my house. :moop:

[Jimmy Floyd]

University town (so they say). Once you account for those it's basically Lancashire and the North East flaring up only. Someone come up with a working theory. Is it self-declared 'friendliness' costing them their lives? I do hope so.

[Spikey M]

All the spit Scousers send flying everytime they talk can't be helping.

[Don]

Just remember, for the sake of perspective and to not fall into the brainwashing trap, that it's a minor illness and that you have no point of reference.

That map would probably be blacker than my xvideos search history if we had a similiar one for the flu.

[Spikey M]

Deaths for non-vulnerable under-60's are still less than 500. I think it was 300 and something.

[Magic]

A reminder that in 2012, 1,500 15-64 year olds died from pneumonia.

[Don]

Jean-Claude Van Tam has taken a colouring marker to the map above. A brown one too :*)

[Magic]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/09/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

This will be hugely interesting to see develop (or not). :drool:

[Don]

Gov. Ron DeSantis signed an executive order last month allowing bars and restaurants to reopen to full capacity.

https://dailyentertainmentnews.com/wpgo/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/ron-desantis-casey-desantis-6.jpg

What a man. This kind of strong leadership is why he shags a decent looking bird every night and isn't having to live a lie and delude himself that he 'loves' his pig of a wife like all the #teampanic melts.

[Spikey M]

The Nightingales are 'mobilising' apparently.

[thommo]

I'm largely a government sympathiser in these times but this is pretty dystopian:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkHP--uX0AAIU8_?format=jpg&name=small

This was part of a series of posters from last year trying to promote the IT sector. It's crazy how misinformation spreads so quickly on social media.

[Lewis]

Deaths for non-vulnerable under-60's are still less than 500. I think it was 300 and something.

And we're going to spend half a trillion quid on all this. Everyone responsible wants hanging.

[Spikey M]

"More people are now in hospital with Covid than before lockdown in March, says NHS medical director Stephen Powis"

From the Beeb.

Deaths still not climbing particularly quickly though?

[Lewis]

I'm definitely in on this 'long covid' is a fraud conspiracy/theory. It sounds too much like fannies just having something new to blame being pathetic on.

[Magic]

"More people are now in hospital with Covid than before lockdown in March, says NHS medical director Stephen Powis"

From the Beeb.

Deaths still not climbing particularly quickly though?

Is that more people are in hospital that are:

Already in hospital but testing positive
Coming in with other stuff but testing positive on the way in
Tested positive for Covid 28 days ago but got hit by a car lol

[Yevrah]

"More people are now in hospital with Covid than before lockdown in March, says NHS medical director Stephen Powis"

From the Beeb.

Deaths still not climbing particularly quickly though?

I can't quite put my finger on why that stat feels disingenuous, but it does.

[Spikey M]

I can't quite put my finger on why that stat feels disingenuous, but it does.

It has to be.

[Yevrah]

My best attempt is that before lockdown we were on a much worse trajectory than we are now and therefore looking at hospital numbers, now vs then, isn't a comparison that one can deduce much from.

[Spikey M]

It has to be.

Or does it. There were 40 deaths on 16/03 when lockdown started.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Most of the deaths were in April and early May. Despite the hysterics at the time, we locked down reasonably quickly.

[Spikey M]

Most of the deaths were in April and early May. Despite the hysterics at the time, we locked down reasonably quickly.

It is amazing how different that looks in hindsight.

[Don]

I'm definitely in on this 'long covid' is a fraud conspiracy/theory. It sounds too much like fannies just having something new to blame being pathetic on.

Nah it definitely lingers in your system but obviously the significant problems are faced only if you're a beached whale who eats dirty meat and argues against the efficacy of xG modelling so yeah, fannies are to blame.

[Giggles]

I'm definitely in on this 'long covid' is a fraud conspiracy/theory. It sounds too much like fannies just having something new to blame being pathetic on.

99% of them have "mental health issues" for that already.

[randomlegend]

I'm definitely in on this 'long covid' is a fraud conspiracy/theory. It sounds too much like fannies just having something new to blame being pathetic on.

Post-viral syndromes are extremely well established as medical fact.

[Spikey M]

Didn't Darren Fletcher have something like that? (Obviously not Covid related)

[Don]

I see that as a result of Greater Manchester going into tier 2, Oldham is having its stricter measures eased to fall in line with tier 2. Oh to be a bar owner in Oldham and to sniff out the opportunity to sue the shit out of the government for their retardedness.

[Don]

Again, if you're sending Liverpool into tier 3 at 300-400 per 100K, how long before we're all into it? 1 week?

[Alex]

Wakefield (I think the only place remaining in West Yorkshire without any local restrictions) is probably going to get thrown in with rest of the area at "Tier 2" as a result of this. So the pub is still open, but I can't mix with people from other households there (unless I sit outside, in October), which is the entire point of going to the pub.

Only alcoholics, ninety year old men and those weird couples who only socialise with each other go to the pub on their "own". You're basically telling all the pubs in Tier 2 areas "stay open and sort your own staff out, whilst we simultaneously do everything we can to limit your business".

Although presumably it will also be nigh on possible to police too. Unless they start checking the fucking electoral register on entry. "Oh, we all house share". Job done.

[Yevrah]

My trip to Ben Nevis (where it was 2 households together maximum at that time) made it clearly apparent that the hospitality industry neither has the capacity nor the will to check any of this stuff. They'll get you out by 10, but while you're in there it's a free for all.