Coronavirus Death Thread

[Baz]

Edit: Sad story though.Almost completely avoidable.

[Dquincy]

Agreed. But I can understand hesitancy by pregnant women when there is such conflicting information and misinformation out there.

My wife is suffering a bit with covid currently and it's a reasonable view (if not guaranteed) that she would not be suffering as much if she had the jab.

[Magic]

She'd be suffering more.

[Shindig]

"Take it from me, a guy who hasn't had the vaccine and has had Covid pneumonia ..." :D

[Magic]

Or from someone who watched his double vaccinated bird suffer more. That was just from my poisonous personality though from which there is no vaccine lol

[Spikey M]

Well that's me convinced.

[Dquincy]

Magic's comments/experiences should be valued just as much as everyone else's on here.

Interesting point, Magic.

[Baz]

Agreed. But I can understand hesitancy by pregnant women when there is such conflicting information and misinformation out there. It was "officially" recommended for pregnant women to get vaccinated as early as August 2021, when this fatty was preggo, and any continued hesitancy was identified as misinformation. It's her own daft fault. Hopefully existing pregnant unvaccinated women realise and go get jabbed, because having covid in the third trimester is bad news.

[Shindig]

It's not his experience, though. It's some rando on the internet who can't be verified. His experience is pneumonia twice at 30. :D

[Magic]

32.

[Spikey M]

Magic's comments/experiences should be valued just as much as everyone else's on here.

Interesting point, Magic.

He was hospitalised. His Mrs wasn't. If we're judging by magics experience the hospitalisation rate in the unvaccinated is 50%.

Close the clubs.

Thankfully it's nowhere near that because we're not all Vitamin D deficient Scotch Special Needs cases.

[Kikó]

It was "officially" recommended for pregnant women to get vaccinated as early as August 2021, when this fatty was preggo, and any continued hesitancy was identified as misinformation. It's her own daft fault. Hopefully existing pregnant unvaccinated women realise and go get jabbed, because having covid in the third trimester is bad news.

She was anti vax. I'm glad Dr Facebook managed to help another family make the right decision.

[Dquincy]

He was hospitalised. His Mrs wasn't. If we're judging by magics experience the hospitalisation rate in the unvaccinated is 50%.

Close the clubs.

Thankfully it's nowhere near that because we're not all Vitamin D deficient Scotch Special Needs cases.
I think you'll find that the majority of the UK population is Vitamin D deficient.

Magic, would you care to respond to Spikey's interesting points?

[Magic]

He was hospitalised. His Mrs wasn't. If we're judging by magics experience the hospitalisation rate in the unvaccinated is 50%.

Close the clubs.

Thankfully it's nowhere near that because we're not all Vitamin D deficient Scotch Special Needs cases.

More lies from the Hitler brigade.

[Magic]

I take D3 and K2 daily now. Immune.

[Spikey M]

I put it to you that you went to hospital with Covid Symptoms and tested positive. How do you plead?

[7om]

Agreed. But I can understand hesitancy by pregnant women when there is such conflicting information and misinformation out there.

My wife is suffering a bit with covid currently and it's a reasonable view (if not guaranteed) that she would not be suffering as much if she had the jab.

The Royal College of Gynaecologists have made it clear as day that they highly recommend covid vaccination during pregnancy. That's the only information you need.

[Magic]

I put it to you that you went to hospital with Covid Symptoms and tested positive. How do you plead?

I went to out of hours nazi concentration camp because they wouldn't give me the antibiotics I required until I took a test.

[Dquincy]

The Royal College of Gynaecologists have made it clear as day that they highly recommend covid vaccination during pregnancy. That's the only information you need.

She needed it. Not me as I'm unable to get pregnant.

[Magic]

Why are all these grotesque middens giving the real unvaccinated kru a bad name.

[Spikey M]

I went to out of hours nazi concentration camp because they wouldn't give me the antibiotics I required until I took a test.

I put it to you that you needed antibiotics for your Covid-induced Pneumonia and that Hospital was the right place for you?

As a secondary charge, I put it to you that you did post "I'm going to die".

[Dquincy]

Lol

[Magic]

I put it to you that you needed antibiotics for your Covid-induced Pneumonia and that Hospital was the right place for you?

As a secondary charge, I put it to you that you did post "I'm going to die".

I didn't go to hospital.

Guilty as secondary charged.

[Dquincy]

Why are all these grotesque middens giving the real unvaccinated kru a bad name.
To elaborate on this, I do wonder how many of the 'unhealthy' or 'obese' collective changed their lifestyle or diets to address this issue.

[Spikey M]

I'd be very surprised if "grotesque middens" weren't disproportionately Anti-vaxx. The worst person I know believes every conspiracy going and has a BMI 4 numbers long. I'm so annoyed she's not copped it. The thing needed finishing off years ago.

[Magic]

I'm not antivax I just can't be arsed and don't see any value in it for myself now. End of.

[Giggles]

The rambling cretin just referred to either an out of hours doctor or a test centre as a “nazi concentration camp“. Would you even be bothered with such a headcase Spikey?

[Spikey M]

The rambling cretin just referred to either an out of hours doctor or a test centre as a “nazi concentration camp“. Would you even be bothered with such a headcase Spikey?

I'm 90% sure he's joking, but if he isn't; the problem is that the rambling headcases spend alot of time online convincing people to follow ther lead and have directly caused people like the lady in Kiko's article to die.

The twat I know is my cousins best friend and I binned her off facebook a year ago. She's constantly posting Conspiracy bullshit and her friends just laugh and give it "Oh Annette, what are you like!?". Which is fine when she's talking to people with brains, but there's thicko's out there that buy into this shit and it's either getting more and more common or they're becoming more and more brave talking about it.

[Queenslander]

My neighbour spent the Christmas period back home in Lismore, Northern Rivers and he told me the worst story so far and that is parents not jabbing their 13/14 year old kids even though the kids want the jab.

They're all alcoholic no hopers and there would be thousands of them done there.

[7om]

My neighbour spent the Christmas period back home in Lismore, Northern Rivers and he told me the worst story so far and that is parents not jabbing their 13/14 year old kids even though the kids want the jab.

They're all alcoholic no hopers and there would be thousands of them done there.

If the 13 year old books an appointment with their GP and demonstrates that they are mature enough to have made that decision, the GP can overrule the parent and go with the kids wishes. That’s how it works here anyway.

[randomlegend]

I'm 90% sure he's joking, but if he isn't; the problem is that the rambling headcases spend alot of time online convincing people to follow ther lead and have directly caused people like the lady in Kiko's article to die.

The twat I know is my cousins best friend and I binned her off facebook a year ago. She's constantly posting Conspiracy bullshit and her friends just laugh and give it "Oh Annette, what are you like!?". Which is fine when she's talking to people with brains, but there's thicko's out there that buy into this shit and it's either getting more and more common or they're becoming more and more brave talking about it.

Darwinism in action.

[Queenslander]

If the 13 year old books an appointment with their GP and demonstrates that they are mature enough to have made that decision, the GP can overrule the parent and go with the kids wishes. That’s how it works here anyway.

Im not sure what the rules are in NSW.

A lot of these families live in the middle of nowhere the kids rely on their parents for transport. My neighbours brother's front door is 1.5km to the road.

[Spikey M]

Darwinism in action.

But it's also what we've spent the last 2 years trying to prevent.

It's also your job to prevent Darwinism. :D

[Don]

The irony of thinking rejecting the vax equates to Darwinism :D

[Boydy]

Never mind Islamic extremism, we need a Prevent for conspiracy theory nutjobs.

[randomlegend]

But it's also what we've spent the last 2 years trying to prevent.

It's also your job to prevent Darwinism. :D

True.

And ultimately I suppose there's no real difference between being vulnerable because you've got a weakened immune system and being vulnerable because you've got a weak brain. Not like Magic and Taz asked to be born as fucking morons.

[Spikey M]

Just a shame you can't write "Morbid Stupidity" on the death cert.

[Foe]

Girlfriend tested positive this morning on a PCR. Has had pretty minor cold symptoms and tested negative on an LFT when they first appeared, but positive 3 or 4 days later.

Not seen her since the 17th though as she’s been down south with her family.

Double vaccinated and boosted but this is the first person in my little circle to get a confirmed positive.

Was due to play her at monopoly on the 31st but she’s isolating down there until the 3rd so I’ve already claimed victory. :flex:

[randomlegend]

Just a shame you can't write "Morbid Stupidity" on the death cert.

I just can't help but stand by in disbelief as they both sit there feeling vindicated in their decision when one of them can't smell or taste anything 18 months later (which whilst only a quality of life issue is a pretty major one) and the other almost certainly has permanent lung damage because of covid.

[Spikey M]

On balance I think I'd take the lung damage over not being able to smell and taste. What a miserable existence that must be. You might as well have broccoli on pasta every night with Molton.

[Magic]

I just can't help but stand by in disbelief as they both sit there feeling vindicated in their decision when one of them can't smell or taste anything 18 months later (which whilst only a quality of life issue is a pretty major one) and the other almost certainly has permanent lung damage because of covid.

I can't smell or taste either. :harold:

[Dquincy]

I can't smell or taste either. :harold:
:lol:

Really? Is it not a short term issue for most people?

[Giggles]

Lasted about 2-3 weeks for my vaccinated self.

[Spikey M]

I didn't have it at all. Maybe the smell side of things but my nose was stuffy so probably just that.

[Dquincy]

Lasted about 2-3 weeks for my vaccinated self.
Thanks Giggsey.

My unvaccinated wife has lost most (but not all) of her taste and smell. Apart from that she's really perked up today. Seems fine now compared to last night.

[Boydy]

Did you get the jab Quincy?

[Spikey M]

Thanks Giggsey.

My unvaccinated wife has lost most (but not all) of her taste and smell. Apart from that she's really perked up today. Seems fine now compared to last night.

Most people seem to go up and down like a yoyo with Covid. Feeling absolutely fine one minute, then knackered again. Just make her rest, they reckon Long Covid is caused by people trying to power through.

[Dquincy]

Did you get the jab Quincy?

Yeah, I'm double jabbed. Haven't had the booster yet though. Was going to see how this omicron played out.

Also worth noting I've not tested positive...yet. This is despite me sharing a bed with her, trying to fornicate, etc.

Cheers @ Spikster. Good points. 👍🏼

[randomlegend]

I can't smell or taste either. :harold:

Incredible.

[Spikey M]

trying to fornicate, etc.


"Look, all I'm saying is if you can't taste anything anyway..."

[Kikó]

Yeah, I'm double jabbed. Haven't had the booster yet though. Was going to see how this omicron played out.

Also worth noting I've not tested positive...yet. This is despite me sharing a bed with her, trying to fornicate, etc.

Cheers @ Spikster. Good points. 👍🏼

Why was she not? (If you don't mind me asking)

[Lewis]

On balance I think I'd take the lung damage over not being able to smell and taste. What a miserable existence that must be. You might as well have broccoli on pasta every night with Molton.

Over actual lasting lung damage? No way.

[Giggles]

Over actual lasting lung damage? No way.

Probably comes down to whether you value the journey or the duration of it more.

[Lewis]

I'm happy to carry a bit of weight in return for sausages and ice cream, but I'm not wheezing after getting dressed and then dying of flu at sixty for them.

[Spikey M]

Assuming Tragic isn't faffing about with a nebuliser every night (can't rule it out considering he's been hiding his smell / taste loss) it must be pretty mild lung damage. Better that than the psychological damage that not being able to taste a ruby or a burger would bring.

That said, he's got both so there's nothing to weigh up now. :happycry:

https://i.ibb.co/9b1sy8X/Screenshot-20211229-132342-Brave.jpg

[Dquincy]

Why was she not? (If you don't mind me asking)
Was purely her choice. She's very much someone who likes to keep herself 'naturally' fit and healthy. Works out a lot, eats very healthily, great arse.

[Magic]

My lungs are fine. Still exercising well etc

[Don]

Look at the anger and bitterness of these people whilst they let the fat and unfit have byes because they themselves and/or their loved ones fall firmly in the group.

[randomlegend]

Look at the anger and bitterness of these people whilst they let the fat and unfit have byes because they themselves and/or their loved ones fall firmly in the group.

Yeah I'm really angry and bitter about the fact you can't taste anything :harold:

[Don]

Not doing a good job of hiding it. We can compare medical records if you fancy? :happycry:

[Magic]

RL is fat, so I'll be having the last laugh.

[randomlegend]

You're both seething.

[Don]

You're the one calling us nasty names :(

[Dquincy]

You're both seething.

Ah I've missed that word. Remember the good old days when "seethe" was used in every other post. Think it was circa 2018. A simpler time chaps, when we were all the best of friends. :)

[Giggles]

RL is fat, so I'll be having the last laugh.

I’ve money on murder suicide so RL better get a move on.

[Shindig]

"Congratulations. You're finally working on adults."
<Magic walks in complaining about his bloody piss>

They're both pushing 55 in this hypothetical scenario.

I've just done some quick maths on England's patient numbers. We've went up 3,000 since Christmas Eve but a ton of that might be incidental spread rather than Covid patients turning up at the door. Ventilators are up by 30.

[ScousePig]

"Congratulations. You're finally working on adults."
<Magic walks in complaining about his bloody piss>

They're both pushing 55 in this hypothetical scenario.

I've just done some quick maths on England's patient numbers. We've went up 3,000 since Christmas Eve but a ton of that might be incidental spread rather than Covid patients turning up at the door. Ventilators are up by 30.

If you're after daily statistics, this forum is really good. Look out for The Lambton Worm's threads.

https://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/coronavirus.126/

[Waffdon]

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Is that Magic and Dquincy’s missus?

[Giggles]

The arse isn’t good enough to be DQ’s.

[Waffdon]

The lass stealing the medical supplies looks like the geezer from The Darkness

[Dquincy]

The arse isn’t good enough to be DQ’s.

Damn straight.

[Shindig]

Fucking boomers.

[Spikey M]

The lass stealing the medical supplies looks like the geezer from The Darkness

:D really does as well.

[Magic]

The arse isn’t good enough to be DQ’s.

:harold:

[Magic]

Why do we bother?

It really is beyond contempt, them acting like they volunteer their time for the public. I'm sure every hour and breath is claimed for.

[randomlegend]

As usual you're sure wrong

[Dquincy]

Good ol BJ, undermining himself at every turn.

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[Spikey M]

Just the 183,000 cases announced today.

[Shindig]

22k of them were backdated from Top Ireland.

[Magic]

The cold really is popular this time of year.

[Yevrah]

The more ludicrous those case numbers get the more it shines a light on how much of a problem this really isn't.

[Spikey M]

The more ludicrous those case numbers get the more it shines a light on how much of a problem this really isn't.

We must be nearing 1% of the population per week. :D

[Dquincy]

Herd immunity here we come. :uhoh:

[Shindig]

We're way past that if the 1.7m estimated infections a week are anywhere near correct.

[Giggles]

:harold:

I suppose an imaginary one could be better than his woman’s. Can be whatever you want it to be.

[Jimmy Floyd]

London is past the peak now. Other places will follow in the next 10 to 14 days. Wave done by 20 January.

The French are making a lol of themselves again I see. Whoever wins their election (even Manu) will do so on the most violently right wing ticket since the Revolution.

[Giggles]

Drink!

[Shindig]

I haven't checked the death league tables in a while. UK are down to 7th. It's likely we'll stay there.

Deaths by 1m population is a different story. A lowly 30th with Peru sitting pretty at the top. From there, it's a very Eastern European table until you get to Gibraltar in 13th.

[Dquincy]

I haven't checked the death league tables in a while. UK are down to 7th. It's likely we'll stay there.

Deaths by 1m population is a different story. A lowly 30th with Peru sitting pretty at the top. From there, it's a very Eastern European table until you get to Gibraltar in 13th.
When does the season end? And is it top 6 into a play-off?

[Shindig]

When the disease becomes endemic which is probably 3-6 months away. This thread gets archived in 2022.

[Giggles]

When the disease becomes endemic which is probably 3-6 months away. This thread gets archived in 2022.

It’ll go on until at least 2024 with tales of Yev thinking the chip is tracking his shopping patterns.

[Yevrah]

It’ll go on until at least 2024 with tales of Yev thinking the chip is tracking his shopping patterns.

My thoughts on Omicron were just another in a long line of me nailing this pandemic, presumably the sewage spewing from your keyboard I've quoted is an effort to discredit that.

[Giggles]

My thoughts on Omicron were just another in a long line of me nailing this pandemic, presumably the sewage spewing from your keyboard I've quoted is an effort to discredit that.

Your thoughts are absolutely batshit, though extremely entertaining. As most ramblings are from the outside.

[Yevrah]

Your thoughts are absolutely batshit, though extremely entertaining. As most ramblings are from the outside.

Do you actually read what I write or is it hard to through all the masks? I said Omicron wasn't going to overrun hospitals and oh look, it hasn't.

[Giggles]

All the masks - Good one.

Do you honestly think that’s the only thing you’ve said about it all? You’ve been a dribbling mess for months, long before Omicron.

[Magic]

My thoughts on Omicron were just another in a long line of me nailing this pandemic, presumably the sewage spewing from your keyboard I've quoted is an effort to discredit that.

I was righter earlier.

[Pepe]

:D

l

[Yevrah]

All the masks - Good one.

Do you honestly think that’s the only thing you’ve said about it all? You’ve been a dribbling mess for months, long before Omicron.

And yet you've never engaged in conversation with any of those posts. You could change the habit of a lifetime and actually quote some and have a discussion, but presumably it's easier to sit and snipe like a snivelling little cunt instead.

[ScousePig]

My thoughts on Omicron were just another in a long line of me nailing this pandemic, presumably the sewage spewing from your keyboard I've quoted is an effort to discredit that.

Not sure how someone who swings from WE'RE ALL DOOMED to IT'S OVER in about five seconds could ever claim to have nailed it.

[Shindig]

"This will be the end of this builders' merchant as we know it. I'll be fine tomorrow."

[Yevrah]

Not sure how someone who swings from WE'RE ALL DOOMED to IT'S OVER in about five seconds could ever claim to have nailed it.

Because I was following what was actually happening.

At the start, we were all utterly fucked - as I said. We got round this in the short terms by confining people to their homes and paying people not to work. We then vaccinated almost everyone to provide a longer term solution, thus un-fucking us. Except it didn't quite work out that way as SCIENCE ran riot and tried to deny vaccine efficacy.

Opinions change with the situation - not sure why this is such a difficult concept for people to grasp.

[Giggles]

Because I was following what was actually happening.

At the start, we were all utterly fucked - as I said. We got round this in the short terms by confining people to their homes and paying people not to work. We then vaccinated almost everyone to provide a longer term solution, thus un-fucking us. Except it didn't quite work out that way as SCIENCE ran riot and tried to deny vaccine efficacy.

Opinions change with the situation - not sure why this is such a difficult concept for people to grasp.

Handy enough change and jump on the winning horse after the event.

[ScousePig]

Because I was following what was actually happening.

At the start, we were all utterly fucked - as I said. We got round this in the short terms by confining people to their homes and paying people not to work. We then vaccinated almost everyone to provide a longer term solution, thus un-fucking us. Except it didn't quite work out that way as SCIENCE ran riot and tried to deny vaccine efficacy.

Opinions change with the situation - not sure why this is such a difficult concept for people to grasp.

Of course it's a fluid situation, it's not rocket science to work that out, however the situation wasn't changing at the rate in which you were posting. I'm not sure why this is difficult for you to grasp.

I've dipped in and out of the thread but at times you've been in full on hyperbole mode, too caught up in the moment.

[Yevrah]

Handy enough change and jump on the winning horse after the event.

It was before the event.

I was saying we should be worried about it before a lot of people were.
I was saying we should lock down before we did
I was saying we should open up before we did once we'd vaccinated a fuck tonne of people.
I was saying we shouldn't be that worried about Omicron when everyone was shitting the bed.

It's all in the thread.

[Yevrah]

Of course it's a fluid situation, it's not rocket science to work that out, however the situation wasn't changing at the rate in which you were posting.

You what? The thread's been going two years. This is just absolute nonsense and you've clearly misremembered if you thought I was flipping from "we're fucked" to "it's over" in the space of a week, or whatever.

Seriously, pay more attention.

[Magic]

Of course it's a fluid situation, it's not rocket science to work that out, however the situation wasn't changing at the rate in which you were posting. I'm not sure why this is difficult for you to grasp.

I've dipped in and out of the thread but at times you've been in full on hyperbole mode, too caught up in the moment.

Desperate for locking down.

[Kikó]

Yev has been right throughout and not at all dramatic.

[Yevrah]

Yev has been right throughout and not at all dramatic.

No issue with accusations of being dramatic, I clearly am, but the underlying points are still there.

[Manc]

ScousePig & Giggles is a tag team nobody saw coming.

[Yevrah]

You might be waiting a while...

[Shindig]

Desperate for locking down.

We're not locking down. It's like chasing after an Olympic sprinter at this point. By the time you lock down, the wave is nearly done.

[ScousePig]

You what? The thread's been going two years. This is just absolute nonsense and you've clearly misremembered if you thought I was flipping from "we're fucked" to "it's over" in the space of a week, or whatever.

Seriously, pay more attention.

I enjoy reading your posts, and I've said that I flit in and out, but you're human and get things wrong.

That's really all I'm saying.

[ScousePig]

Yev has been right throughout and not at all dramatic.

Of course he's dramatic.

[Shindig]

My highlight of the whole thread was Boydy throwing in a, "You okay, Yev? You're being a bit bipolar." Right around the sitcom interlude.

[Giggles]

Of course he's dramatic.

Dramatic is being kind. He’s been a pearl clutching mess.

[Yevrah]

I enjoy reading your posts, and I've said that I flit in and out, but you're human and get things wrong.

I don't doubt it, but, in this instance, what have I got wrong? Next time you see a post, pull me up on it.

[Yevrah]

Dramatic is being kind. He’s been a pearl clutching mess.

But again you can't be arsed to find and quote posts in this thread demonstrating that.

[ScousePig]

I don't doubt it, but, in this instance, what have I got wrong? Next time you see a post, pull me up on it.

It's such a big thread that it's hard to remember when and where (I'll have to see if I can work out the search function), but there was a time when you went from us being in lockdown and doomed, to we'll be back to normal in no time. And it was way before the vaccine iirc. It was just something that stuck in my head.

The only reason I pull you up on it specifically is because you like to tell us how right you are.

[Yevrah]

It's such a big thread that it's hard to remember when and where (I'll have to see if I can work out the search function), but there was a time when you went from us being in lockdown and doomed, to we'll be back to normal in no time. And it was way before the vaccine iirc. It was just something that stuck in my head.


Yep, not a chance I said that without the vaccine coming into play. I'd put money on it. Significant money.




The only reason I pull you up on it specifically is because you like to tell us how right you are.

Which in turn I only do because people claim I'm wrong without backing stuff up.

[ScousePig]

Like you say, it's a pointless conversation without me actually finding the posts. Let's say you're innocent until proven guilty 😉

[Giggles]

But again you can't be arsed to find and quote posts in this thread demonstrating that.

Nobody needs me to, most have seen for themselves and told you as much. I’d say there’s a load of deleting doing on as we speak anyway.

[Yevrah]

They don't exist.

This was from the 19th March 2020:



It's quite straight forward. There are 4 ways the virus goes away:

1. We vaccinate against it
2. We stay inside until it's gone (not that simple I know, but for the purpose of brevity let's use that as a catch all term for proper isolation and testing, leading to a capacity to treat where possible and elimination through knowledge of where it actually is)
3. It kills everyone it can
4. The pixies ask it nicely to leave

Let's assume 4 won't happen.
1 takes time, which if we're on semi-lockdown for the duration and that duration is into next year will kill the economy. Particularly if other countries have managed to make 2 a success.
2 might work, but people need to disabuse themselves of the notion that that's what we're doing. We're manifestly not. Or not properly at least. And it doesn't strike me that we're going to.
3 by process of elimination, if we can't get a vaccine quick enough, is the only option left. Mixed in with some mitigation from our half arsed efforts at 2.

If I've misunderstood anything, shout.


https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/showthread.php?2609-Coronavirus-Death-Thread&p=385882&highlight=pixies#post385882

And this was from the 7th September 2020:


A 2nd wave of some degree was always going to happen. It's a reasonably contagious virus that the magic pixies won't just rid from the world in a matter of months.

Deaths are less per case due to a combination of:

It's already killed off the seriously low hanging fruit.
We're testing a hell of a lot more people now.
I haven't seen the demographics on positive tests but I'd be surprised if it isn't more weighted towards the lower risk groups now (the young and Taz, for example).
The lag between cases rising and it actually killing people, which we know is about 3 weeks to a month.

https://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/showthread.php?2609-Coronavirus-Death-Thread&p=425370&highlight=pixies#post425370

[Yevrah]

Nobody needs me to, most have seen for themselves and told you as much.

And still you offer no examples. Useless.

[Giggles]

And still you offer no examples. Useless.

Deleting and cherry picking your own quotes :D Easy to make all the big offers then.

[Yevrah]

I’d say there’s a load of deleting doing on as we speak anyway.

You really haven't the first clue about how I work, do you?

[Yevrah]

Deleting and cherry picking your own quotes :D Easy to make all the big offers then.

Examples Giggles, examples. You literally can't do it, can you.

[Don]

Lads people may look to re-read this thread in the future, stop spamming it with your shit willy-measuring contest and stick to the topic of how gay RL is.

[Spikey M]

His girlfriend implies not very.

[ScousePig]

Lads people may look to re-read this thread in the future, stop spamming it with your shit willy-measuring contest and stick to the topic of how gay RL is.

This is the sensible approach. I really didn't mean it to turn into a witch hunt.

[Dquincy]

And yet you've never engaged in conversation with any of those posts. You could change the habit of a lifetime and actually quote some and have a discussion, but presumably it's easier to sit and snipe like a snivelling little cunt instead.

:lol: That last sentence. Got me. :D

Well done, Yev.

[Lofty]

A lad I know had a tattoo on his calf just before christmas but it had gone funny, there is no pus so he is adamant it isn't infected, despite it looking grim. He reckons it is a new side effect of the vaccine, and so does his tattooist. Anyone else heard this? Personally I reckon it's sepsis and he'll be peg legged by January.

[Spikey M]

Of course his tattooist agrees. :D

[Don]

Of course the vaxxed melt disagrees :D

[Boydy]

Had he not gone to a fucking doctor yet?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No need, he's seen the tattooist.

[randomlegend]

Side effect of the vaccine :D

You can literally sell these retards anything.

[Yevrah]

It's as if bad things didn't happen to people, ever, before this vaccine came along.

[Don]

In case you forgot, around 5 billion foreign substances which were fast-tracked in development have been injected into people as a result of this.

2.9m ADRs listed on http://www.vigiaccess.org/
About 0.1% of vaccinations reporting side-effects on https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/treatments-vaccines/vaccines-covid-19/safety-covid-19-vaccines

It's not exactly tin-foil territory to suspect it may be linked to strange new health issues.

[Spikey M]

In case you forgot, infections following tattoos are really fucking common.

[Kikó]

In case you forgot, around 5 billion foreign substances which were fast-tracked in development have been injected into people as a result of this.

2.9m ADRs listed on http://www.vigiaccess.org/
About 0.1% of vaccinations reporting side-effects on https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/treatments-vaccines/vaccines-covid-19/safety-covid-19-vaccines

It's not exactly tin-foil territory to suspect it may be linked to strange new health issues.

Is this not the same as VAERS? The numbers are meaningless until they are investigated and where there is a link found, we're talking miniscule percentages against administered doses.

5 billion foreign substances is definitely you on the crank train.

[randomlegend]

In case you forgot, around 5 billion foreign substances which were fast-tracked in development have been injected into people as a result of this.

2.9m ADRs listed on http://www.vigiaccess.org/
About 0.1% of vaccinations reporting side-effects on https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/treatments-vaccines/vaccines-covid-19/safety-covid-19-vaccines

It's not exactly tin-foil territory to suspect it may be linked to strange new health issues.

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[Spikey M]

I thought Taz was just playing at being an anti-vaxx mong. What scenes. What a spastic.

[Yevrah]

You thought someone who is vulnerable to this thing yet steadfastly refuses to get the vaccine was playing at being anti-vax?

[Spikey M]

I thought he was hesitant, but all the blah blah gammon gammon blah was for comedic effect. I didn't realise he was this far over the shark.

[7om]

That’s a new one. That a vaccine can be the cause of a tattoo that’s gone to shit. Give your head a wobble ffs.

Edit: lol at “fast tracked” as well. Clueless.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Heads have gone.

[Magic]

It's as if bad things didn't happen to people, ever, before this vaccine came along.

Desperate attempt not to look like a pearl clutching nonce.

[Don]

A vaccine is a foreign susbtance. Its development was fast-tracked.

People really do lose sight of simple facts in the hunt to take sides on this.

[Spikey M]

You've lost sight of the plot.

[Pepe]

Is a kebab a foreign substance?

[Don]

Classic vaxxer logic, you corner them with facts and they lash out. Possibly an ADR of itself.

[Yevrah]

Edit: lol at “fast tracked” as well. Clueless.

Are you actually saying it wasn't fast tracked? I don't give a shit that it was as we bloody needed it, but that's setting my bullshit detector running wild.

[Yevrah]

Desperate attempt not to look like a pearl clutching nonce.

While I obviously lean more towards one set of arguments than the other, I'm not on either 'side' of this and am happy to take on bullshit from either camp. It's sad that it's yet another thing that's come to sides.

[Spikey M]

You're insinuating that an infection was caused by the vaccine, rather than bacteria simply getting into an open wound. Never mention logic again.

[Kikó]

Are you actually saying it wasn't fast tracked? I don't give a shit that it was as we bloody needed it, but that's setting my bullshit detector running wild.

It wasn't fast tracked. Stages that usually run sequentially were able to be run in parallel. It's always possible but this was made a priority with the nature of the virus.

[Yevrah]

It wasn't fast tracked. Stages that usually run sequentially were able to be run in parallel. It's always possible but this was made a priority with the nature of the virus.

That's literally the definition of fast tracking. Fuck me.

[Spikey M]

That's literally the definition of fast tracking. Fuck me.

Is it? To me it can mean "rushed" or "prioritised". I would say it fits the second definition. Not the first. Taz means the first.

[Kikó]

Nothing was sped up. Things running in parallel doesn't mean it didn't run the same course of time.

[Yevrah]

Is it? To me it can mean "rushed" or "prioritised". I would say it fits the second definition. Not the first. Taz means the first.

See, what's happened here is one side has heard the words 'fast tracked' and stuck 'and unsafe' on the end of it and the other side has decided that in order to guard against accusations of unsafe or corners cut being banded around they'll deny it was fast tracked in the first place.

Utterly fucking tragic from all concerned and very much reminds me of the 'torture, it doesn't work' nonsense.

[Yevrah]

Nothing was sped up. Things running in parallel doesn't mean it didn't run the same course of time.

The whole process was sped up. Hence how I have three shots of delicious vaccine in my arm within a year.

[Kikó]

The process run in parallel and not sequentially. It could happen for any vaccine with the right conditions (like money).

[Don]

Cheers Yev for poking these cretins for some further explanation of their retardedness, I hope you can now clearly see what this has done to people's brains :D

Spikey, lad, try and stick to the words rather than the perceived intent behind them.

[Kikó]

Tell us more about the 5 million foreign objects.

[Don]

It was covered comprehensively above. Please seek it out once you've untied yourself from the web of semantics you've spun.

[Yevrah]

The process run in parallel and not sequentially. It could happen for any vaccine with the right conditions (like money).

Again, literally the definition of fast tracked.

https://i.postimg.cc/XYB8MHdH/fast-track.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

You seem to be reading 'corners cut' whenever you see fast tracked.

[Spikey M]

Cheers Yev for poking these cretins for some further explanation of their retardedness, I hope you can now clearly see what this has done to people's brains :D

Spikey, lad, try and stick to the words rather than the perceived intent behind them.

Feel free to explain your intent if I've got it wrong.

[Don]

You man are gonna be in a right muddle when your fast track passport arrives without pages missing.

[Pepe]

I mean, it was fast tracked. Saying 'no it wasn't it was just done faster' is :face: of the highest order. That is literally what the FDA calls it: https://www.fda.gov/patients/fast-track-breakthrough-therapy-accelerated-approval-priority-review/fast-track

That it was fast tracked does not mean it is dangerous, of course.

[Yevrah]

Cheers Yev for poking these cretins for some further explanation of their retardedness, I hope you can now clearly see what this has done to people's brains :D

Spikey, lad, try and stick to the words rather than the perceived intent behind them.

You don't get off easily either as it looked to me and all the world you were using fast tracked as a bad thing.

[Spikey M]

Again, literally the definition of fast tracked.

https://i.postimg.cc/XYB8MHdH/fast-track.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

You seem to be reading 'corners cut' whenever you see fast tracked.

Because that's what he meant. It's all in the context of what's being said and, sadly, who is saying it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Great use of 'sadly' there, Spikey. Chris Whitty would be proud.

[Spikey M]

Next slide please.

[Pepe]

I still want to know more about them foreign substances. If they were born and bred in the UK substances, would that be ok?

[Kikó]

Yeah - I think that's the important distinction. It was able to complete all stages without reducing safety but quicker due to money, volunteers and urgency.

[Lewis]

I was in a pub last night that had copies of this (https://thelightpaper.co.uk/) on the bar. I had a flick through, jokingly asked the barman who brought them in, and within a minute he was calling me a Nazi for saying any newspaper that carries adverts for stuff like this (https://emfclothing.com/en/) isn't a serious one.

[Pepe]

Taz, mate, they got you covered:

https://emfclothing.com/1593-thickbox_default/emf-protective-balaclava-black.jpg

[Yevrah]

Because that's what he meant. It's all in the context of what's being said and, sadly, who is saying it.

In which case the response should have been "it was fast tracked, so what?" rather than the absolute abortion that followed. Just giving anti-vax morons free ammo with this sort of approach. "They're even lying about it being fast tracked".

[Don]

You don't get off easily either as it looked to me and all the world you were using fast tracked as a bad thing.

That's because it's natural to think it and proves the original point that any sort of new health issue will invariably be linked to it. But instead of understanding and accepting this, these filthy vaxxed folk want to jump on the merest hint of it in their desperate attempt to fight the great war.

[randomlegend]

It was fast-tracked. That fact is irrelevant to whether it's safe or not (it is).

Waving around 2.9m ADRs and a 0.1% reported side effect rate as though it's something to shit yourself over is fucking hilarious. You get higher reported rates than that in a placebo trial.

[Don]

Pepe, are these racially tinged comments? Lad, you got yourself a gammon wife and an SUV, calm your passion.

[Pepe]

Just trying to protect you from the 5g that must be irradiating from all these vaccinated folks.

[Yevrah]

I was in a pub last night that had copies of this (https://thelightpaper.co.uk/) on the bar. I had a flick through, jokingly asked the barman who brought them in, and within a minute he was calling me a Nazi for saying any newspaper that carries adverts for stuff like this (https://emfclothing.com/en/) isn't a serious one.

Issue 13 illustrates my point above further. While I'm not taking the percentage they quote on face value, you're giving nut jobs more ammo when you start mandating that children need a vaccine for a disease that clearly has a miniscule chance of harming them and that they can spread anyway, even when they've been jabbed.

As Jimmy says, heads have gone. There is so little balance anywhere with this anymore. It was somehow so much more enjoyable when bodies were piling up in Italy and there was genuine reason to be scared of it.

[Yevrah]

That's because it's natural to think it and proves the original point that any sort of new health issue will invariably be linked to it. But instead of understanding and accepting this, these filthy vaxxed folk want to jump on the merest hint of it in their desperate attempt to fight the great war.

I've said this before and I'll say it again, you're clearly vulnerable to this thing, so get a bloody vaccine. If it's still around when you're older, it's going to kill you.

[Pepe]

The smaller the threat the larger the panic.

[Don]

I've said this before and I'll say it again, you're clearly vulnerable to this thing, so get a bloody vaccine. If it's still around when you're older, it's going to kill you.

You were spot on about whole affair and I reckon you're spot on about my future health.

[Yevrah]

You were spot on about whole affair and I reckon you're spot on about my future health.

:D

[Magic]

Kikó why are you so busy posting on here instead of getting tested hourly.

[Kikó]

I only need to get tested so I can see my new baby buddy.

[Boydy]

Has it arrived yet?

[randomlegend]

Pepe, are these racially tinged comments? Lad, you got yourself a gammon wife and an SUV, calm your passion.

I drive a stupid little Suzuki Swift sport, AKSHUALLY.

[Pepe]

I wish they sold the Suzuki Swift in the US, nice car.

[Dquincy]

See, what's happened here is one side has heard the words 'fast tracked' and stuck 'and unsafe' on the end of it and the other side has decided that in order to guard against accusations of unsafe or corners cut being banded around they'll deny it was fast tracked in the first place.

Utterly fucking tragic from all concerned and very much reminds me of the 'torture, it doesn't work' nonsense.
Nailed it, Yev. Kudos.


The whole process was sped up. Hence how I have three shots of delicious vaccine in my arm within a year.
For some reason, I thought you said you weren't bothering with the booster. Am I wrong or did you change your mind?

[randomlegend]

It's great fun to drive.

[Kikó]

Has it arrived yet?

Yesterday.

[Pepe]

:cool:

[Yevrah]

For some reason, I thought you said you weren't bothering with the booster. Am I wrong or did you change your mind?

Not wrong. I'm still not convinced I really needed one, but I was planning on doing some rutting between Christmas and New Year and I'll need one to go on holiday abroad in due course, so figured I may as well do it now.

[Yevrah]

And congrats Kik's!

[Kikó]

Cheers! Few days in the hospital then we will be home. Plenty of time to argue between the baby napping.

[Magic]

I only need to get tested so I can see my new baby buddy.

I know. I'm sure it's yours.

[Pepe]

Is it your first Kiko?

[Kikó]

Yep.

[Dquincy]

I only need to get tested so I can see my new baby buddy.

Many congratulations, Kiko. Your life will never be the same again (meant that in the positive sense!).

[randomlegend]

I know. I'm sure it's yours.

:D

So bitter.

[randomlegend]

Congrats Kiko

[Spikey M]

Still can't believe you've made a German.

[Pepe]

I was going to say something but I made an American. :face:

[7om]

A vaccine is a foreign susbtance. Its development was fast-tracked.

People really do lose sight of simple facts in the hunt to take sides on this.

Tell me how it was fast tracked. In detail.

[Kikó]

Does your kid get American citizenship for being born there? She doesn't for being born in Germany.

[7om]

Are you actually saying it wasn't fast tracked? I don't give a shit that it was as we bloody needed it, but that's setting my bullshit detector running wild.

No, it wasn’t fast tracked. This is technology that was established before covid came along. And all the “ingredients” of a vaccine are standard components which have been tested over and over again.

The data supporting them is just as good as if the trials had taken the typical 3-5 years.

[Yevrah]

Might want to catch up on the thread before you double down on that one 7om...

[Pepe]

Does your kid get American citizenship for being born there? She doesn't for being born in Germany.

She does, yes. Triple passport. :cool:

[Spikey M]

And a life long spot on the watch list.

[Lewis]

Anchor baby.

[Pepe]

Exactly.

[Kikó]

Paying American taxes for life 🤤

[Spikey M]

2 World Wars and 1 World Cup m8.

[Giggles]

I thought in the EU you had to. All our foreign babies get it. Though that’s probably just to try cap some Africans down the line.

[randomlegend]

The whole "fast-tracked" argument is semantics and an irrevelant distraction.

[Shindig]

I would say so as well. You probably got as much data out of the Covid trails than any other vaccine at the usual pace. The amount of people involve globally is staggering.

[Dquincy]

Wife is all better now. Plus her taste and smell has already started to return. Not bad for 5 days after testing positive.

Is this a score for Taz and Magic?

[Giggles]

Wife is all better now. Plus her taste and smell has already started to return. Not bad for 5 days after testing positive.

Is this a score for Taz and Magic?

Not really seeing as they still can’t. It’s a score for your Mrs though.

[Shindig]

My mask broke this morning. The disposables are cack.

[Lofty]

On the tattoo thing I was sure the tattooist would cover his arse and say 'get it looked at' so was surprised he is risking his livelihood on the say so of an internet forum.

[Boydy]

Yesterday.

Congratulations!

[Shindig]

The real virus was the kids we made along the way.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.30.21268307v1.full.pdf

Modelling really is the arse end of science.


In the absence of additional controls, with England remaining under Plan B (dark red lines), we project a
large wave of infection, leading to hospital admissions peaking at 13,600 per day and deaths peaking at 2890 per day.

Fuck off. :D

[Lewis]

1476656505814335504

It's over. lol at Scotland and Wales.

[Spikey M]

Tweet is gone.

[Lewis]

It was something about the rolling average being fuck all. It must be true, because the news has been LATERAL FLOW TEST SHORTAGE all day. Best have another lockdown until we all have a garage full.

[Shindig]

I'll give the deaths another week to shake out after the new year but it's looking like it's dropped.

[Yevrah]

This is another post brought to you by "I told you so (sponsored by the South African tourist board)", but not only is it over, it never really started. Cases have been hammered for nearly four weeks now and nothing. Even the hospitalisations look like they're being driven by people who fucking caught it there while in for something else. EDIT: Or happened to have it while going in for something else.

[Don]

Assume isolation period won't even get shortened let alone abolished next month still though. Will that mark d-day? Be good to see how the conspiracy theorists keep themselves interested after that.

[Yevrah]

I'm not sure where there is left for this to go now. Our chief scientific advisor was wrong, SAGE were comically wrong. Hopefully it's well and truly done now in terms of nonsense restrictions.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Had a very depressing talk with my aunt about this. She's a worrier (completely innocent, no side or views) and no matter how patiently I talk about it, she just won't accept that omicron is less severe or even that vaccination will mitigate its effects. She's effectively in a mindset where she NEEDS this to carry on because she's spent the last two years being scared shitless about it, and if it ends, that's time wasted.

If I say 'cases have peaked in London', she just says 'no, they're still rising'.

Heads etc.

[randomlegend]

IDK why people spend so much time agonising over it all. You can't change it so why worry? I have never watched an "update" so far and I barely know what the rules are beyond the bare minimum I need to get by and for work. I have zero clue what cases or hospitalisations are doing at any given time.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Oh and someone else I know refusing to come out at the moment because he had it first week of December, therefore hasn't been able to have his booster jab yet and therefore he isn't safe. This guy has two degrees ffs.

[randomlegend]

Then again I spend my summers refreshing for minute-by-minute updates of who Man Utd are signing so maybe I should shut the fuck up lmao.

[Jimmy Floyd]

IDK why people spend so much time agonising over it all. You can't change it so why worry? I have never watched an "update" so far and I barely know what the rules are beyond the bare minimum I need to get by and for work. I have zero clue what cases or hospitalisations are doing at any given time.

People respond differently, all the way through I have wanted to know as much as possible in as minute detail as possible in order to prepare my expectations for what is coming next. The Boris/Whitty lectern briefings are all out of date bullshit, but the data dashboard is brilliant.

Has led to me knowing a lot more about maths than I used to.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59833262

Heads have, like, totally gone. Yo.

[Dquincy]

If this reads true then this is potentially big news (presuming it's not bollocks). Basically, the PCR tests cannot determine between influenza and covid.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/huge-cdc-withdraws-use-pcr-test-covid-finally-admits-test-can-not-differentiate-flu-covid-virus/

[Pepe]

The state of that website. :D

[Yevrah]

People respond differently, all the way through I have wanted to know as much as possible in as minute detail as possible in order to prepare my expectations for what is coming next. The Boris/Whitty lectern briefings are all out of date bullshit, but the data dashboard is brilliant.

Has led to me knowing a lot more about maths than I used to.

That's sort of similar to me, albeit I appreciate our output is different. I'd rather know how bad things are and/or have a sensible view of what's coming than not and it dawned on me relatively early on that the best way to do that was to find out for myself. I know fuck all about science (clearly) but I am pretty good with numbers and interpreting them, which is all I've really used throughout this. The back of a fag packet told me that we were closer to Italy in weeks than Whitty reckoned and that herd immunity without a vaccine was one of the dumbest ideas ever, and it's sort of gone from there.

On the subject of your aunt, I genuinely feel for her. There have been millions of people who've been utterly terrified by the messaging around this (fine sans a vaccine, absolutely not fine after we had one) and I'm not sure what it'll take to bring them back to the land of properly functioning humans again.

[Kikó]

If this reads true then this is potentially big news (presuming it's not bollocks). Basically, the PCR tests cannot determine between influenza and covid.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/huge-cdc-withdraws-use-pcr-test-covid-finally-admits-test-can-not-differentiate-flu-covid-virus/

Hahaha.

File with the five million foreign substances.

Get off fucking crank webpages for the love of God.

[Spikey M]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/30/fact-check-cdcs-pcr-test-withdrawn-after-dec-31/9053100002/

[Dquincy]

So it was bollocks. My mistake.

[Kikó]

You need to ask yourself why you keep being pulled towards these sort of extreme webpages.

[Dquincy]

You need to ask yourself why you keep being pulled towards these sort of extreme webpages.
A reasonable question, but I do not seek out or get pulled towards them. I was sent it by a mate and thought I'd share it on here.

It's rightly been discredited and I'll think twice before doing so again.

[Magic]

"mate".

[Shindig]

I don't think I've ever been massively anxious over any of this. I was mainly concerned about the family but know there's only so much you can do. I wasn't shitting bricks once the deaths started getting up there and I'm certainly not bothered about where we're at. Like Jimmy, the data's just been nice to rifle through. Finding out who this virus tends to finish off, where it's spreading and, in general, finding out how the virus is changing over time.

More people are still dying than there were on average in 2019 but it's night and day from the peak of this.

[John Arne]

- In Italy 11 town have been put in lockdown, with residents being fined if they leave or enter the outbreak areas. This follows 150 cases being confirmed, with 3 deaths in the region.

- Turkey and Pakistan have closed their borders with Iran, where the virus has infected 43, and killed 8.

- UK has 13 cases, but no deaths as yet.

- Vietnam had 16 cases, all now recovered.

Current Infected: 78,993
Current Deaths: 2,470
Infected but recovered: 23,418

It's been a while since we had a summary.

Current Infected: 286,937,895 (3.73% / World Pop)
Current Deaths: 5,447,789 (0.07% / World Pop)
Infected but recovered: 253,298,185

Total Deaths:

https://gyazo.com/8f9efe60b85e6f7b7302bdab8ad4f60f.jpeg

Deaths per 1m pop (shout out to Eastern Europe)

https://gyazo.com/da0147763121fd40bb38ce569b6fd7aa.jpeg

[John Arne]

This is an interesting stat... Number of deaths from Covid in China in 2021: 2