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Yevrah
30-03-2020, 03:47 PM
Social distancing beers in the park is a contradiction in terms, surely?
phonics
30-03-2020, 03:52 PM
2m distance in a group of less than 5.
That does sound batshit. If you're going to the trouble of making a public show of your unnecesary socialising, why not just stop being melts and do it properly without the gay rules?
Stock in Waitrose was fine, even came out flexxin hard with bog roll, drip drip.
phonics
30-03-2020, 04:07 PM
Our lockdown has been going on 3-4 times as long as yours so we don't have to be as strict. Going to each others houses would require public transport so meeting in the middle.
bruhnaldo
30-03-2020, 04:15 PM
Deciding whose social distancing is appropriate or isn't really could be a fun game show.
Spikey M
30-03-2020, 04:20 PM
Anyone up for some socially distanced informal lagers?
Yevrah
30-03-2020, 04:26 PM
Deciding whose social distancing is appropriate or isn't really could be a fun game show.
Sweden would win in the inappropriate stakes hands down.
Giggles
30-03-2020, 04:31 PM
Got stopped 3 times by the cops today in a 90km drive.
phonics
30-03-2020, 04:41 PM
"Jack Grealish has said he is “deeply embarrassed” after he “stupidly agreed” to go to a friend’s house this weekend during the coronavirus lockdown."
It's absolutely mental that he's apologising for breaking lockdown rather than driving so drunk he crashed into multiple cars.
Well one leads to criminal culpability - drink driving - the other doesn't.
bruhnaldo
30-03-2020, 05:01 PM
Yea I doubt he can get rung up for drink driving now considering he wasn't arrested at the scene, surely?
niko_cee
30-03-2020, 05:28 PM
You can still get done, just ask Jordan Ibe.
In other news this (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52090441) is why all this authoritarian shit is a dangerous business. Give the sort of dickheads that infest most 'enforcement agencies' a millionth of an inch and they'll take the piss.
Lofty
30-03-2020, 05:31 PM
I'm fed up of this shit now, getting arse fucked with a shapeshifting plan that is supposed to be the 'solution' so grind out an unreal amount of hours delivering it only for another majorly changed plan to surface right after. I thought working from home would be a laugh but the reality is my chances of an aneurysm have tripled.
Jimmy Floyd
30-03-2020, 05:35 PM
I can only imagine what various backwater police forces are up to. This is it, their ticket to fleeting relevance, they've got to make the most of it.
There will be people that go on about social distancing and scream at people in shops for fucking years after this as well.
Lewis
30-03-2020, 05:36 PM
I saw two bicycle police talking to a man and what I assume were his two kids kicking a ball about in the park. I'd love to get all My Cousin Vinny on them whoppers.
'Is it *possible* that my "one form of exercise a day"...'
Warrington Police had a cracker earlier, making shit up as they go along:
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phonics
30-03-2020, 06:27 PM
These Police accounts where the aim of the job is to get maximum engagement is genuinely detrimental to society imo.
Mellberg
30-03-2020, 06:35 PM
Grealish out with Ross McCormack of all people.
His career ended well, Jack :face:
Oh by the way, get on Jim Corr's twitter. Proper Konspiracy Kiko krazy.
phonics
30-03-2020, 06:46 PM
Got to his feed and saw this and decided not to even bother looking.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1187004252163575809/IDEE7VhP_400x400.jpg
niko_cee
30-03-2020, 07:11 PM
As in the guy from The Corrs?
Is he a religious nut?
Giggles
30-03-2020, 07:13 PM
As in the guy from The Corrs?
Is he a religious nut?
Yes. He’s just a nut in general, went cracked years ago.
Disco
30-03-2020, 07:14 PM
The Man Corr, call him by his name.
Spikey M
30-03-2020, 08:00 PM
What a Mancorr.
phonics
31-03-2020, 12:20 AM
An Staten Island amazon factory worker got press after several people joined him in a strike action against Amazon due to a lack of hazard pay, sick leave and regulations when it came to safety around COVID including several workers turning up Visibly sick and not asked to leave.
He was fired 12 hours later for “not adhering to social distancing guidelines”
Warrington Police had a cracker earlier, making shit up as they go along:
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A quick browse through reveals it to be quite a strange Twitter account in general.
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:D
Oh by the way, get on Jim Corr's twitter. Proper Konspiracy Kiko krazy.
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Alright mate
SincereTheRebel
31-03-2020, 05:19 AM
Went to Tesco at 9 pm for my usual reload. It was surprisingly busy considering it shut in an hour. They had a few bags of rice and a ton of toilet paper. Most of the women I now meet are the late-night shoppers in the 24-hour superstore. I shot for a number and got rejected. They are still out there lads.
Spikey M
31-03-2020, 06:01 AM
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Alright mate
I keep hearing this and it's fucking stupid.
OH NOES, DON'T KILL OUR OLD AND VULNERABLE. HOW WILL WE GET ANYTHING DONE?!
I could atleast understand the 'theory' if it was Spanish Flu going round again, because that affected young adults more. It'd still be mental, but at least you could point to a motive.
niko_cee
31-03-2020, 06:35 AM
Aye.
Here we are the west, we'e developed the perfect solution to your crippling problems with the elderly. Mwahahahaha!
John Arne
31-03-2020, 07:18 AM
A full 15-day national lockdown will be put in place as of midnight tonight. Vietnam’s PM instructed all citizens stay indoors and only go out for basic necessities and if they are key workers, observe a 2-metre distancing. Groups of more than two are not allowed. Booooooring.
Mazuuurk
31-03-2020, 07:58 AM
I'm so confused about our strategy. So far things are sort of coming along here.
But I'm wondering if we are just going to see a complete explosion of ICU-admissions in like one week.
Spikey M
31-03-2020, 08:03 AM
Aren't you pretty much doing what we did?
Motivation to work is dwindling day by day. I spend my mornings on chaturbate and researching mouse moving software.
Jimmy Floyd
31-03-2020, 08:23 AM
The furloughing cull has begun :drool:
Axe falling everywhere, including a couple of entire departments, but I believe I am safe, at least from being furloughed, if not from the virus.
Spikey M
31-03-2020, 08:24 AM
Motivation to work is dwindling day by day. I spend my mornings on chaturbate and researching mouse moving software.
I missed the 'and' in there and thought Chaturbate had undergone a massive change in business model.
Boydy
31-03-2020, 08:32 AM
Motivation to work is dwindling day by day. I spend my mornings on chaturbate and researching mouse moving software.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/King-Size_Homer.png
The '10 hours of silence' vids on youtube are what you want.
Waffdon
31-03-2020, 08:48 AM
Motivation to work is dwindling day by day. I spend my mornings on chaturbate and researching mouse moving software.
Ive been quite busy and been doing stupid hours but quite tired today. Have already set my Skype to show as inactive after 90 mins rather than 5 so I can go for a nap whenever
Mazuuurk
31-03-2020, 09:10 AM
Aren't you pretty much doing what we did?
Pretty much. But I think the difference here is people are mostly listening to the advice from the government, whereas what I heard was when they initially told people to stay away from each other in Fracne and the UK everyone did fuck all and just went about their business as usual.
Bars and retail stores are dead empty, noone is in their office and because everyone are working from home people spread out their shopping and errands over the day. People shop for their elderly neighbours (or stores have dedicated times for them early morning) etc. A lot of people are out walking but never really enough that it gets crowded.
But its hard to say whether its enough. Tho the strategy i definitely think is herd immunity, just dragging it out enough that healthcare can cope. I think that Imperial college death calculation had factored in 50% of people not following the "rules" so i think the main difference here is the government are expecting swedes to follow guidelines much more than that.
Its essentially trying to create a social stigma for doing all the fun stuff - very swedish.
niko_cee
31-03-2020, 09:13 AM
We've managed a +1 for the global tally.
Comorbidities I believe, possibly from a care home as it seems to have wheedled its way into one of those in the last few days.
Shindig
31-03-2020, 09:24 AM
I keep hearing this and it's fucking stupid.
OH NOES, DON'T KILL OUR OLD AND VULNERABLE. HOW WILL WE GET ANYTHING DONE?!
I could atleast understand the 'theory' if it was Spanish Flu going round again, because that affected young adults more. It'd still be mental, but at least you could point to a motive.
Yep. If you wanted to kill a lot more people in general, you'd be after an avian flu. There's nothing engineered about this unless they had a Pangolin and a Bat in a cage for two years and waited for one to sneeze on the other.
That would all make sense if we weren't such fucking pansies that shat ourselves for our Doris' and sent our entire economies down the drain for them.
Jimmy Floyd
31-03-2020, 10:41 AM
Everyone in my team furloughed except me, as a result of which I now have to come into the office every day.
These are strange times indeed.
Boydy
31-03-2020, 10:43 AM
Everyone in my team furloughed except me, as a result of which I now have to come into the office every day.
These are strange times indeed.
Why not you?
phonics
31-03-2020, 10:47 AM
He told the boss what to do and this is his punishment.
This is a full and frank message. Please forward to the rest of the family, and your loved ones if you choose.
I had a meeting today with our Medical Director, who has been in touch with government. The following therefore has some authority.
By the weekend, London will be in full lockdown, with Army manned checkpoints. Only key workers, NHS staff, police, ambulance, fire, delivery drivers, and teachers looking after the children of the above, will be allowed to move around the city.
By next week, those restrictions will apply to the country.
Tonight Lewisham Hospital is overwhelmed, ambulances on divert, and only a few ventilators left. QEH is close behind. My Trust is in the frontline of this epidemic, mainly due to local demographics. The rest of the NHS is probably little more than a week behind. We have denied critical care to four patients today, who will die as a result.
I must now be clear. Anyone over 75 years old will be denied critical care; anyone over 65 with diseases, eg diabetes, COPD, will be denied critical care. We are ramping up palliative care services. If an elderly patient falls sick, and requires hospital care, there will be an immediate DNAR order on them. They will be palliated, and they will live or die. The government forecast of 250,000 deaths is, we believe, hopelessly optimistic.
The mortality rate is very high in the elderly. The ICU stay on a ventilator even in survivors is about three weeks. We will run out of ventilators in a week.
The Army is setting up field hospitals, no doubt with squaddies manually bagging patients.
You will not hear this from Boris Johnson for a few days. But please be assured it is coming. We are two weeks behind Italy.
For the family therefore, anyone over 65 is to self isolate, possibly for many weeks. Maintain contact through frequent video calls. If they need food or supplies, take them over and leave the bags on the doorstep, and wave at them from at least a six foot distance. They are not to touch the bags for 15 minutes. Do not visit for 14 days if you or anyone in your household is unwell with and fever, cough or 'flu like symptoms. If you are unwell, stay indoors, along with your whole family. Have a neighbour or a friend drop off supplies, with no social contact.
We need to blunt the curve, which is right now exponentially rising.
For myself, you cannot imagine the stress we are under. The awful decisions we will have to make. We will be taking otherise healthy 60 year olds off a ventilator to die so we can save a 30 year old.
Please stay safe. I'll message when I can with news from the frontline.
With much love to you all.
Real talk.
Boydy
31-03-2020, 10:56 AM
Real talk.
Where'd you get this from?
Shindig
31-03-2020, 10:58 AM
Sounds like bollocks. The DNAR stuff sounds like a red flag.
Jimmy Floyd
31-03-2020, 10:58 AM
Why not you?
There were various fudge reasons given but I think the real one is the sales guy in the field who mainly works with me pushed for it as he prefers me to the others.
Where'd you get this from?
Don.
John Arne
31-03-2020, 11:03 AM
In an attempt to cheer people up....
Welcome to the 2020 Dp1MP Corona Cup. A 32 nation knockout competition pitting number of deaths per 1m Pop (Dp1MP) against number of deaths per 1m Pop.
The top 4 nations (by cases) have been kept apart, all other teams were randomly drawn using Excel random number generator. Each tie will be played over 2 legs (2 days), with the winners determined by the commutative Dp1MP for that nation. This competition will run along the existing Corona Premier League and Championship.
Of course, the European dominate the betting, with Italy and Spain big, big favourites. However, USA and some smaller nations will be looking to make some late runs.
Anybody have any suggestions as to how to improve / make more entertaining before we start?
If anybody has any family members negatively affected by Coronavirus - I apologise - this is just for fun.
https://gyazo.com/e4dd747a0920f881140046339cc4888f.jpeg
John Arne
31-03-2020, 11:04 AM
Here's a fucking suggestion, centre-align the countries in the boxes, you fucking mug.
John Arne
31-03-2020, 11:07 AM
Sick fuck.
I know, I know - I'll align the text centrally. My bad.
niko_cee
31-03-2020, 11:16 AM
Top work.
As for that 'real talk' message. Yeah, ok mate. Leave the bags for 15 minutes . . .
Spikey M
31-03-2020, 11:19 AM
:| Bit much, this.
Jimmy Floyd
31-03-2020, 11:23 AM
Should be a solid chance for us after our bronze in the Throat Cancer Classic last November.
Taz should have known better. Ian gave JA a bit of attention on Vietnamese football and he hasn't stopped since. The potential for 'tick' nurses to take an interest in his doings was always going to be too much for him.
John Arne
31-03-2020, 11:32 AM
Or, you know, I'm bored.
Magic
31-03-2020, 11:40 AM
I'm bored of this now, thought we'd be looking at 3k deaths per day and it's just fluttering around 200 like an annoying midgie.
SincereTheRebel
31-03-2020, 11:46 AM
Can we place bets? uSA to win it all
Adramelch
31-03-2020, 12:17 PM
Bottom right part of the bracket seems a bit "free for all" with China and their questionable numbers being the seeded nation. France should easily make it to the semis and by the 7th/8th of April I reckon we'll be getting more deaths on a daily basis than Italy so a final appearance is not out of the question.
USA could be walking away with the cup, but Spain's recent form is not to be scoffed at.
Shindig
31-03-2020, 12:18 PM
China's got no hope now they're under control-ish.
niko_cee
31-03-2020, 12:23 PM
They're basically England under Capello.
Lolling my tits off at this, but mainly Niko's bags post.
Also, if we go into lockdown I'll still be going for my daily runs. Fancy myself to outrun the coppers. I'd lose my job with a criminal conviction but you could probs just talk your way to a minor warning/fine upon getting caught the first time, I imagine.
Is it even legal to trap us in our houses? Fucking those political hippies were too busy fighting for women who wanted to be men who then regretted having dicks stapled on them and are now wanting to blame the surgeon to realise the small print said we could be banned from walking this planet by some cunts in suits because some flu is going around.
Spikey M
31-03-2020, 12:46 PM
You know when you have fond memories of a film, then you watch it again as an adult and find yourself wondering if it was always a bit shit? Yeah.
If you give that last sentence a rework you might be able to find a coherent thought in there, Taz.
Nah, it's there, I ain't fucking here to spoonfeed you.
Well it seems to boil down to you having a pout because you're being asked to stay indoors but in the frothing-at-the-mouth manner of a 50 year old who blames everything on SNOWFLAKES.
Shindig
31-03-2020, 01:05 PM
He's arse deep in his 30's still living with his parents. He's a lost cause.
Just to avoid confusion, my above post, could be rewritten as:
"I enjoyed Niko's bags post.
I'm not sure how I feel about an impending lockdown.
I also need to read up on the human rights implications of these lockdowns, they could be interesting."
Don't make me deconstruct this shit for your soulless, pathetic, incompetent lives ever again, you hear me?
He's arse deep in his 30's still living with his parents. He's a lost cause.
What the fuck is this, you utter freakshow? :D I know you're being deprived of being able to share your incomprehensible and dull af work tales in this climate but we've all.got struggles, don't just lash out at mans with innacurate aspersions, you asperging asshole.
I'm going round my parents for dinner tonight actually though, first meaningful human contact in 2 weeks, might shag my mum :drool:
phonics
31-03-2020, 01:22 PM
You have to love insurance companies, they just take the absolute piss. Would the world be worse off if they didn't exist?
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John Arne
31-03-2020, 01:26 PM
#BeKinder
niko_cee
31-03-2020, 01:48 PM
You have to love insurance companies, they just take the absolute piss. Would the world be worse off if they didn't exist?
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Wouldn't the logical conclusion of this line of thinking be that football could never start-up again, or exist in a world where it is possible to die from seemingly trivial things, like our good old mate the flu?
Just to avoid confusion, my above post, could be rewritten as:
"I enjoyed Niko's bags post.
I'm not sure how I feel about an impending lockdown.
I also need to read up on the human rights implications of these lockdowns, they could be interesting."
Don't make me deconstruct this shit for your soulless, pathetic, incompetent lives ever again, you hear me?
What the fuck is this, you utter freakshow? :D I know you're being deprived of being able to share your incomprehensible and dull af work tales in this climate but we've all.got struggles, don't just lash out at mans with innacurate aspersions, you asperging asshole.
I'm going round my parents for dinner tonight actually though, first meaningful human contact in 2 weeks, might shag my mum :drool:
Aren't you an all but confirmed Coronacase? Doubt it'll do your mood much good to kill off your mum and dad.
It's been four weeks though so I'm just going off the hope we're past that stage. Mum was exposed to me a few times in first 2 weeks too so just going to go for it, our mental health requirements need it.
The long read is exceptional today:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/31/how-will-the-world-emerge-from-the-coronavirus-crisis
Stay strong, Taz. You sound like you're struggling over there, son.
Lewis
31-03-2020, 02:16 PM
Toby 'Toby Young' Young has written a decent case (https://thecritic.co.uk/has-the-government-over-reacted-to-the-coronavirus-crisis/) for letting the oldies (and seemingly himself) cop it, and I'm well on board.
393 today. We're all over the place. Shit or get off the pot.
Toby 'Toby Young' Young has written a decent case (https://thecritic.co.uk/has-the-government-over-reacted-to-the-coronavirus-crisis/) for letting the oldies (and seemingly himself) cop it, and I'm well on board.
393 today. We're all over the place. Shit or get off the pot.
The cost per lives shite can do one with those fag packet calculations but yep :halm:
niko_cee
31-03-2020, 02:29 PM
Aren't they fiddling the figures again in some way or another at the moment - with the ONS taking over duties?
Shindig
31-03-2020, 02:31 PM
Not a clue. It's looking like 'two weeks behind Italy' was about right, though. Eek.
Magic
31-03-2020, 02:43 PM
Ooft.
bruhnaldo
31-03-2020, 02:45 PM
Lady in my office has hit us with the 3rd edition of "guys i'm pretty sure i have it" and has described entire body aches, sniffles, etc. etc.
No, she's not gonna go home, silly mongoose! She's just gonna see if she can tough it out.
I said I mean you could always just take a day you know just say you have stomach pain so you can see if the symptoms persist or whatever.
Looked at me like I was mental.
ALSO, entire facility has gone to "wear your masks basically all the time" so... that's fun.
Don't you work in, or at the very least adjoining a hospital? Seems like sound advice.
bruhnaldo
31-03-2020, 02:55 PM
In one, yes sir.
Well, prior to today we were told we weren't allowed to have them basically (mind you I'm not clinical staff) but they took them all off the walls where they had them etc.
Now they're going to assign us a new mask every morning and then recycle the old one somehow :/
Shindig
31-03-2020, 03:00 PM
Could they not just wash them? Assuming it's the usual surgical mask and not the filtered type.
Spoke to the woman who runs the hotel we’ve booked in Corfu in June and she’s confirmed the inevitable. Fuck’s sake.
Bernanke
31-03-2020, 03:25 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/VvWnftdV/Screenshot-20200331-150428.jpg
:D
Yevrah
31-03-2020, 03:25 PM
393 is a real talk level of numbers.
We’re about to find out how well our strategy in the first instance has worked.
I’ve got three big sticks from today’s walk. Operation Scarecrow has begun.
Jimmy Floyd
31-03-2020, 03:26 PM
About 50% of the company workforce has been culled to furlough today, including all my closest colleagues. A bleak, bleak day.
spoke to the woman who runs the hotel we’ve booked in corfu in june and she’s confirmed the inevitable. Fuck’s sake.
:D
393 is a real talk level of numbers.
We’re about to find out how well our strategy in the first instance has worked.
:D
That is all.
Waffdon
31-03-2020, 03:30 PM
Why is working from home more stressful. I normally work 7-8 hours at most and I’ll have done 23/24 by time I’m finished today since 7.30am yesterday.
Waffdon
31-03-2020, 03:35 PM
Also, how are folk coping who don’t live with their missus? Going on a bender for 2 days when the pubs went on lockdown instead of getting my hole wasn’t the best of ideas.
Mazuuurk
31-03-2020, 03:35 PM
Who is Don?
Waffdon
31-03-2020, 03:37 PM
Al0n
Sir Andy Mahowry
31-03-2020, 03:38 PM
Who is Don?
Taz.
He got lolled off the board for the name change when we moved here and only just returned.
Mazuuurk
31-03-2020, 03:39 PM
What the fuck. Fucking Taz? :D
Thats awesome.
Sir Andy Mahowry
31-03-2020, 03:39 PM
I went to my local Tesco Express today and they had social distancing measures but some didn't really give a fuck. I had a man come right up next to me in the small veg aisle, he probably thought he was immune because he had a mask on.
Ngl watching you and some webcam slut play virtual Play Your Cards Right was a big part of me needing to run the fuck away from here so just keep in line for the next 6 months Mahow and then you can get back to reaching new depths of human behaviour.
Weather is fucking glorious atm. Heatwave due on Sunday too. You love to see it.
Shindig
31-03-2020, 03:53 PM
4,000 more cases but we appear to have ramped up testing.
Bernanke
31-03-2020, 03:53 PM
What the fuck. Fucking Taz? :D
Thats awesome.
Didn't the talk of tick tings and his massive nose tip you off?
Sir Andy Mahowry
31-03-2020, 03:54 PM
Ngl watching you and some webcam slut play virtual Play Your Cards Right was a big part of me needing to run the fuck away from here so just keep in line for the next 6 months Mahow and then you can get back to reaching new depths of human behaviour.
Weather is fucking glorious atm. Heatwave due on Sunday too. You love to see it.
Missed you too.
Magic
31-03-2020, 04:05 PM
Where are you based now Tazman?
Lewis
31-03-2020, 04:11 PM
https://www.centreforcities.org/coronavirus/
Unlucky mate. TTH Meet in Hull. :cool:
Boydy
31-03-2020, 04:12 PM
Same as before, MK-LDN.
You still working for that dodgy gambling crowd?
Fully taking credit for that as a superspreader.
Nah, changed in good time, now on the govt payroll gravy train :drool:
Waffdon
31-03-2020, 04:13 PM
No wonder Prince Charles came up here. A far better health system.
Magic
31-03-2020, 04:26 PM
I'm gonna go for a drive and rag the cunt off the company car before it goes back. Got a full tank and nowhere to go. Mountains. :drool:
bruhnaldo
31-03-2020, 04:29 PM
Pleaes don't wreck yourself
Shindig
31-03-2020, 04:29 PM
Or land a criminal record to jeopardise your new job. :dc:
Giggles
31-03-2020, 04:31 PM
Shit under the engine cover before you leave it back.
https://www.centreforcities.org/coronavirus/
Unlucky mate. TTH Meet in Hull. :cool:
I've noticed the Hull figures a few times over the last couple of days. I reckon eleven testing kits have made out there in total and they've all come back positive. :D
Have you seen the state of Sheffield though? Fuck knows what that's all about.
phonics
31-03-2020, 04:40 PM
I've noticed the Hull figures a few times over the last couple of days. I reckon eleven testing kits have made out there in total and they've all come back positive. :D
Have you seen the state of Sheffield though? Fuck knows what that's all about.
Uni town.
Adramelch
31-03-2020, 04:44 PM
Italy on another 800odd deaths today but the cases genuinely seem to be going down. I hope it's not to do with less testing though.
Lewis
31-03-2020, 04:51 PM
Sheffield being twinned with Islamabad seems like the more obvious answer, with all the Indians in Leeds pissing themselves.
Wouldn't the logical conclusion of this line of thinking be that football could never start-up again, or exist in a world where it is possible to die from seemingly trivial things, like our good old mate the flu?
I mean, did footballers used to have insurance? Suspect this is only something that appeared in the last 10-15 years.
This isn’t blowing over anywhere near quick enough.
Offshore Toon
31-03-2020, 04:54 PM
Jersey beating all the UK areas per 100,000. We're such spanners.
Spikey M
31-03-2020, 04:58 PM
All those pensioners :drool:
Uni town.
I would say Leeds has a comparable student population, and it's running about a quarter of the confirmed cases with a larger population. Perhaps they're just testing more in Sheffield.
Spikey M
31-03-2020, 05:12 PM
The must have a right super spreader. Oi oi!
bruhnaldo
31-03-2020, 05:45 PM
Random tweets I see that are basically this
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Kinda got me thinking about doing my will, honestly.
Giggles
31-03-2020, 05:48 PM
Even going by the 10% that are likely true, it would be rather worrying. Then again, lots of people have underlying conditions they haven’t a notion about.
In times like these don’t settle and always make sure your last wank is a good one so you at least have a good memory to go with.
Bernanke
31-03-2020, 05:58 PM
In times like these don’t settle and always make sure your last wank is a good one so you at least have a good memory to go with.
Your 10th of the day is rarely as good as your first, so are you suggesting we ration ourselves?
Magic
31-03-2020, 06:01 PM
Random tweets I see that are basically this
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Kinda got me thinking about doing my will, honestly.
Probably bullshit tbf.
Jimmy Floyd
31-03-2020, 06:03 PM
Getting off twitter is fucking crucial for having the slightest chance of keeping one's sanity at the moment.
I'm thinking of even getting off here but I'm not sure that's necessary just yet.
bruhnaldo
31-03-2020, 06:06 PM
I feel like I see a tweet like that every hour from a different person. That combined with these fuckin hypochondriacs (spl) is driving me mental.
The one earlier whom I said said she had all these symptoms etc has seemingly perked up and is fine now. Like fuck this shit already.
Germany donning us senseless in every department.
Adramelch
31-03-2020, 06:19 PM
Meanwhile France with horrible numbers across the board today. We should have devoted all our resources into saving as many people today, just to get better numbers tomorrow for John Arne's cup.
Giggles
31-03-2020, 06:20 PM
Do either really matter?
Need that dub giggles. Got to keep morale.
At some point our old pal Mo (mentum) will have our back.
Lewis
31-03-2020, 06:32 PM
The Germans are going round testing kids and wheelie bins.
Spoonsky
31-03-2020, 06:36 PM
We're going to walk the Corona Cup without a shadow of a doubt.
bruhnaldo
31-03-2020, 06:54 PM
Friend's coworker today apparently informed their leadership team she had "held a baby that has tested positive for COVID".
I didn't even know babies were getting tested honestly.
John Arne
31-03-2020, 06:58 PM
Some stories now starting to appear here over cover-ups over deaths. Vietnam is at 207 cases, 0 deaths - however, some stories of older people with cases have been removed from online newspapers and social media. The roads were busy today as hundreds of thousands left the city to return to the hometown for the 2 week lockdown that starts today (1st April).
The next two weeks are going to be pretty important for the propaganda arm the Govt.
Also, I have just discovered that as I travelled overseas since 1st Feb, I am not eligible to apply for a new Work Permit and Temporary Residence Card... which is great.
https://news.sky.com/video/share-11964813
Fucking fluff but at least the mainstream media are starting to pick up the argument. Nevermind the weeks till the curve peaks, need to keep an eye on when awareness of the bullshit peaks and do everything we can to bring it forward and raise it.
The government are basing their actions on the medical modelling which takes absolutely no consideration of the opportunity cost of the measures they propose.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52111606#
60% of infected report it echo-ing the 66% reported in Germany and similar numbers in Iran and South Korea.
I understand why UK refuse to make it an official symptom as they don't want every fucker with a blocked nose to burden them and given we're in effective lockdown, it would presumably do little at this stage bit surely at least WHO need to step in and warn the likes of US, India, etc. Jesus, you'd think medical practitioners would be the sort of sector of human society to at least be trusted to be competent but nah.
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 07:59 AM
Being on a bit of oxygen is not the sign of being at death's door people are making it out to be.
Magic
01-04-2020, 08:34 AM
Being on a bit of oxygen is not the sign of being at death's door people are making it out to be.
Isn't the problem though that it very much could be of there are no ventilators etc?
Revolution
01-04-2020, 08:38 AM
Isn't the problem though that it very much could be of there are no ventilators etc?
Yep. Just imagine if some poor fucking old bloke has to give his ventilator to me cos I'm young. Dudes probably contributed more to society in any given week then I have in 30 years.
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 08:42 AM
You don't need a ventilator to give someone oxygen. Being on a ventilator very much is a sign of being at death's door.
Queenslander
01-04-2020, 08:46 AM
If I lived in Victoria right now I would not be allowed to visit my longtime girlfriend.
:|
Shindig
01-04-2020, 09:09 AM
You don't need a ventilator to give someone oxygen. Being on a ventilator very much is a sign of being at death's door.
Yep. Having air forced into your lungs is terrible for your heart. And err ... lungs.
Jimmy Floyd
01-04-2020, 09:23 AM
If I lived in Victoria right now I would not be allowed to visit my longtime girlfriend.
:|
Nor in the UK - it's move in together or don't see each other.
Magic
01-04-2020, 09:24 AM
You don't need a ventilator to give someone oxygen. Being on a ventilator very much is a sign of being at death's door.
In the context of Covid, I thought it was breath on your own or ventilate with nothing in between?
Queenslander
01-04-2020, 09:31 AM
Nor in the UK - it's move in together or don't see each other.
I havent been paying attention at all over the last few days. Now that I have looked QLD is the same...
Looks like Im moving in then for a bit.
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 09:34 AM
In the context of Covid, I thought it was breath on your own or ventilate with nothing in between?
Lol no. How would that work? One breath you're breathing fine for yourself, the next you can't breathe at all?
So Gove said that increased testing for this is being held up by a lack of the required chemical reagents.
Chemical manufacturers have gone "Erm, there's no shortage that we're aware of."
Excellent.
Queenslander
01-04-2020, 09:40 AM
There are currently 15 000 crewman aboard 18 cruise ships off the coast of Australia.
Even Jacinda wont accept a single cruise ship. I guess now is the best possible time to have a Minister for Facism to sort this mess out.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/01/coronavirus-calls-to-repatriate-15000-crew-members-from-cruise-ships-off-australias-coast
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 09:45 AM
So Gove said that increased testing for this is being held up by a lack of the required chemical reagents.
Chemical manufacturers have gone "Erm, there's no shortage that we're aware of."
Excellent.
I absolutely can't stand that slimy cunt.
Magic
01-04-2020, 09:51 AM
Lol no. How would that work? One breath you're breathing fine for yourself, the next you can't breathe at all?
well yeah isn't that exactly the case? It is in all the articles I've read such is the speed of the virus when it gets to your lungs.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/business.financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/british-american-tobacco-working-on-covid-19-vaccine-using-tobacco-leaves/amp
Pretty sick to carry out April Fools in this climate.
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 10:00 AM
well yeah isn't that exactly the case? It is in all the articles I've read such is the speed of the virus when it gets to your lungs.
Obviously that's not the case...if it was then unless you happened to already be in an ICU when you stopped breathing you'd have a 100% mortality rate.
Lewis
01-04-2020, 10:01 AM
What Robert Peston said about 'the chemical industry' providing the stuff is balls. He might as well have been quoting ice cream men. Another one for these journalists and their methods being shown right up by all this (and he hasn't corrected it as twenty thousand people have shared it and convinced themselves of it).
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 10:13 AM
What Robert Peston said about 'the chemical industry' providing the stuff is balls. He might as well have been quoting ice cream men. Another one for these journalists and their methods being shown right up by all this (and he hasn't corrected it as twenty thousand people have shared it and convinced themselves of it).
I don't understand why all 'political journalists' haven't been furloughed. Newsnight went deep on our lack of testing last night, but heading up the following to the opener was their political editor. I mean, why? Just get John Campbell on via Skype from his spare bedroom.
Magic
01-04-2020, 10:14 AM
Obviously that's not the case...if it was then unless you happened to already be in an ICU when you stopped breathing you'd have a 100% mortality rate.
So it's only the ones who go from oxygen to ventilator? You can go from oxygen to normal? Remember I'm not a doctor you little prick.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 10:17 AM
And also, what the fuck is this tool doing driving round the Schengen area bothering border staff?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-52095551/coronavirus-has-the-virus-brought-borders-back-to-europe
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 10:18 AM
Some people get no symptoms at all. Some get a nasty cough and feel flu-y. Some feel breathless, but cope fine at home. Some need a bit of oxygen. Some need a lot of oxygen. Some need ventilating. And everything in-between. Most people don't need a ventilator, but the numbers of cases are large enough that even that small percentage who do will likely overwhelm our capacity at some point.
I know you're not a doctor but you obviously don't go from fine to needing a ventilator in a few seconds. Nobody would be surviving if that were the case.
Spikey M
01-04-2020, 10:21 AM
Yeah, well, you're no Wifi Soutions Sales Officer.
Lewis
01-04-2020, 10:26 AM
I don't understand why all 'political journalists' haven't been furloughed. Newsnight went deep on our lack of testing last night, but heading up the following to the opener was their political editor. I mean, why? Just get John Campbell on via Skype from his spare bedroom.
I suspect that they think they're essential. Plus if we didn't have Newsnight for two months people might get used to it.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 10:28 AM
I suspect that they think they're essential. Plus if we didn't have Newsnight for two months people might get used to it.
By all means have it, you just don't need political journalists on it. They have nothing to offer.
Magic
01-04-2020, 10:31 AM
Some people get no symptoms at all. Some get a nasty cough and feel flu-y. Some feel breathless, but cope fine at home. Some need a bit of oxygen. Some need a lot of oxygen. Some need ventilating. And everything in-between. Most people don't need a ventilator, but the numbers of cases are large enough that even that small percentage who do will likely overwhelm our capacity at some point.
I know you're not a doctor but you obviously don't go from fine to needing a ventilator in a few seconds. Nobody would be surviving if that were the case.
Typical smarminess from the resident GP. I never suggested it was a few seconds. I have just read a few articles where people went from 'fine' to 'ventilation' within hours. I didn't know if oxygen was a step in between or not, or at which point standard oxygen isn't enough.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 10:37 AM
Peston is on LBC now and he hasn't a clue.
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 10:37 AM
Typical smarminess from the resident GP. I never suggested it was a few seconds. I have just read a few articles where people went from 'fine' to 'ventilation' within hours. I didn't know if oxygen was a step in between or not, or at which point standard oxygen isn't enough.
I asked you if you thought one breath they were fine and the next they couldn't breathe and you replied "isn't that exactly the case"...
But anyway. Yes some people are deteriorating very quickly (hours) to the point of needing ventilation. Most aren't. Most who need a ventilator will have been on oxygen for a while first. Some will need oxygen but never need a ventilator.
Lewis
01-04-2020, 10:41 AM
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6913e2.htm?s_cid=mm6913e2_w
Get [back] on the tabs lads.
Shindig
01-04-2020, 10:44 AM
http://covid19.healthdata.org/
Here's some graphs and projections for the US. It's ... all over the place.
Magic
01-04-2020, 11:30 AM
I asked you if you thought one breath they were fine and the next they couldn't breathe and you replied "isn't that exactly the case"...
But anyway. Yes some people are deteriorating very quickly (hours) to the point of needing ventilation. Most aren't. Most who need a ventilator will have been on oxygen for a while first. Some will need oxygen but never need a ventilator.
You could have just said that first, that's the info I was after.
Lewis
01-04-2020, 11:39 AM
This (https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/04/real-reason-uk-government-pursued-herd-immunity-and-why-it-was-abandoned) is a decent timeline of the 'herd immunity' stuff that counters the bullshit NARRATIVE that has taken hold. But then he's probably the best historian in the country, and he's actually read the documents, so I suppose it would differ from what the knobheads are putting out.
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 11:46 AM
You could have just said that first, that's the info I was after.
Soz bbz xoxoxo
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 11:52 AM
This (https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/04/real-reason-uk-government-pursued-herd-immunity-and-why-it-was-abandoned) is a decent timeline of the 'herd immunity' stuff that counters the bullshit NARRATIVE that has taken hold. But then he's probably the best historian in the country, and he's actually read the documents, so I suppose it would differ from what the knobheads are putting out.
He's just parroting what the government said at various stages. I haven't read the documents but there's nothing in there I didn't know and some of it (like the approach to large gatherings going ahead) was at the time and remains, manifest nonsense.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 11:56 AM
The gist of the strategy in the first four days was "we're going to suppress the peak, but we're not actually going to do anything to suppress that peak yet". You can argue whether this is worth the effort and the longer term pain (I don't happen to agree that it isn't at this stage) but the government clearly changed tack far quicker than they were planning to.
Lewis
01-04-2020, 12:03 PM
It's an attempt to counter the NARRATIVE that the original plan was based largely around us all getting it and doing not a lot about it, which is a) wrong; and b) obscures the actual issues that they faced (including those that led to them having to speed things up).
Shindig
01-04-2020, 12:11 PM
Given how little we're testing, it makes me wonder if we've still got one eye on that. Hoard a load of tests until the end of next month and then go nuts to see how much of the country has/had it. Or we could just be shite at battling other nations in the testing market.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 12:28 PM
It's an attempt to counter the NARRATIVE that the original plan was based largely around us all getting it and doing not a lot about it, which is a) wrong; and b) obscures the actual issues that they faced (including those that led to them having to speed things up).
By "issues that they faced", do you mean realising that more people would die (a lot more) if they carried on down the route they were planning to at the planned pace?
I agree though that I don't think the plan was ever to do nothing, and anyone that thinks that wasn't paying attention.
Jimmy Floyd
01-04-2020, 12:40 PM
Approval ratings for the government are off the charts high. The public know the score.
John Arne
01-04-2020, 12:53 PM
When is the next GE in the UK?
Shindig
01-04-2020, 12:58 PM
I think we've got another four years yet. Whenever May pulled that fast one that blew up in her face.
Boydy
01-04-2020, 01:02 PM
Didn't they get rid of the fixed term parliament act?
Lewis
01-04-2020, 01:11 PM
By "issues that they faced", do you mean realising that more people would die (a lot more) if they carried on down the route they were planning to at the planned pace?
I agree though that I don't think the plan was ever to do nothing, and anyone that thinks that wasn't paying attention.
More the pros and cons of the various different measures considered, all of which explain the initial pacing of the strategy, and then how that had to change when new information started coming in. It's definitely worth reading all the official stuff published.
Magic
01-04-2020, 01:15 PM
Is that 600? OYFT.
Lewis
01-04-2020, 01:18 PM
It's a good job we can't have an election with that brilliant 'plan' Jeremy Corbyn has outlined doing the rounds. It shows the government right up.
phonics
01-04-2020, 01:18 PM
Approval ratings for the government are off the charts high. The public know the score.
So is Trumps and the Italian bloke.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 01:26 PM
More the pros and cons of the various different measures considered, all of which explain the initial pacing of the strategy, and then how that had to change when new information started coming in. It's definitely worth reading all the official stuff published.
Unless there's more chap didn't publish in his article then I've seen it all. And if the new information were updated death forecasts, well, yeah, the original ones were wrong. Badly wrong. As anyone could have told them based on all available information from elsewhere.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 01:28 PM
And we should have locked shit down sooner, as I and others were saying at the time. Today's death toll (if we're now at that level or more for a while) is testament to that.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 01:41 PM
For context, Italy hit 600 hundred+ deaths on the 20th March, prior to that they hadn't topped 500.
Appreciate this isn't an exact science, but we're also not counting deaths outside hospitals it seems.
Lewis
01-04-2020, 01:43 PM
https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/scientific-advisory-group-for-emergencies-sage-coronavirus-covid-19-response
All that stuff, some of which (like this (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874290/05-potential-impact-of-behavioural-social-interventions-on-an-epidemic-of-covid-19-in-uk-1.pdf)) deals with the political and practical difficulties of telling people to stay inside at a time when barely anyone here was dying from it.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 01:43 PM
And one more, and then I'll stop. The government aren't handling this well. While some aspects have been genuinely impressive (Nightingale jumps to mind immediately), our testing is a farce. And without that we've no hope of getting back to proper normality until a vaccine comes along.
I don’t think many places have been. Deaths will go up for ages yet, though the growth rate will start to slow. Cases probably for another week or two before we see them stabilise and drop.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 01:47 PM
https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/scientific-advisory-group-for-emergencies-sage-coronavirus-covid-19-response
All that stuff, some of which (like this (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874290/05-potential-impact-of-behavioural-social-interventions-on-an-epidemic-of-covid-19-in-uk-1.pdf)) deals with the political and practical difficulties of telling people to stay inside at a time when barely anyone here was dying from it.
The behavioural science wank? I saw them talking about it at length in several press conferences. It's a tough gig to manage in those circumstances (minimal deaths) I don't doubt, but that's not a reason to not try if you're ultimately going down a lockdown road anyway.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 01:49 PM
I don’t think many places have been. Deaths will go up for ages yet, though the growth rate will start to slow. Cases probably for another week or two before we see them stabilise and drop.
We've no idea what the growth rate is though as we've barely tested anybody.
You probably know more about this than I, but is it true we're not even testing to current capacity yet?
Waffdon
01-04-2020, 02:00 PM
Get the border shut and we’ll have football in Scotland back by mid-May
We've no idea what the growth rate is though as we've barely tested anybody.
You probably know more about this than I, but is it true we're not even testing to current capacity yet?
No idea on testing capacity. The boffins know what the growth rate is as they see the growth of hospital admissions pretty much in real time. Hospital admissions are a very good indicator.
The next few weeks are going to be bad. We’ve been told that by mid-April we expect to have more Covid-19 patients than we currently have beds across our five sites. We should expect to see national deaths bounce around the high hundreds from later this week and for that to continue for another 2-3 weeks.
We are very likely to see case numbers stabilise then drop after Easter week. The government will then need to consider how quickly they open stuff up. My guess is that they won’t do so until they know they can test widely enough to shut down specific sectors or locations when the need arises.
The really shit thing is that we can see how bad it’s about to get. The good thing is that we can see in Lombardy (and will soon see across Italy) that the worst will pass.
90+% of deaths seem to be the infirm. Beside the point of discontent focused within one group of society as opposed to spread across everyone, they really should have just quarantined those at risk and let the rest of us out to play. That way they could palm the deaths off on individual responsibility, too.
Mazuuurk
01-04-2020, 02:16 PM
90+% of deaths seem to be the infirm. Beside the point of discontent focused within one group of society as opposed to spread across everyone, they really should have just quarantined those at risk and let the rest of us out to play. That way they could palm the deaths off on individual responsibility, too.
I reckon if they had the data they do now, they would have in many places, to be honest (at least in countries with enough records to know the age of everyone and where they are).
I think basically a bunch of miscalculations have been made very early on that has made it a little too late for everyone everywhere to take any proper actions.
But then also:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-transmission.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage&fbclid=IwAR3oBNUBZhhZRWqBQR3OVQP3WmsDeLX4fgizDLyuS 6-hm_Bes2R3GZSSrPE
It just seems more and more like a bunch of people are just walking around spreading this in society without having a clue they are. So you would have had to A) Quarantine all old people and risk groups and then B) make sure EVERYONE who ever gets to see them (bringing food etc) are all tested like...daily?
phonics
01-04-2020, 03:26 PM
It appears to have killed April Fools as a concept which I'm glad for.
Mazuuurk
01-04-2020, 03:43 PM
I have just taken notice to Finlands prime minister. Wish she was ours.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 03:46 PM
I have just taken notice to Finlands prime minister. Wish she was ours.
What did she say?
niko_cee
01-04-2020, 03:47 PM
Plus if we didn't have Newsnight for two months people might get used to it.
The best thing about Newsnight last night was when Maitliss 'went after' the fact the NHS manager guy (I think) said they were trying to source the chemicals they needed from vets as they often have stocks and she was right on him like "aha, you're using products designed for animals!" scoop of the century mode and he just said, well, yeah, they're the same chemicals and they're not going anywhere near people, or animals, you fucking idiot.
Adramelch
01-04-2020, 03:48 PM
What did she say?
I think he was more referring to her physique rather than her rhetoric.
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 04:05 PM
This chap on the breefing is a cheery soul.
I get the slogan, but do we really need to end every single sentence with it?
Yevrah
01-04-2020, 04:16 PM
The slogan marketing guff on their podiums is appalling. Did they pay someone to design that?
Jimmy Floyd
01-04-2020, 04:23 PM
I get the slogan, but do we really need to end every single sentence with it?
They have the GET BREXIT DONE election winning people doing their comms, so probably. This shit works.
I think he was more referring to her physique rather than her rhetoric.
Tbf. She’s been brilliant during Covid.
@mazuurk
How do you feel about Swedens approach to this?
My wife’s uncle has tested positive. He’s in his 80s and has terminal lung cancer (and still smokes) so I’ll be amazed if he’s still here by Easter. Wife’s aunt is dreadfully unhealthy (as in she is eating herself blind) so would imagine she won’t be far behind.
Separately, wife took our son for his jabs and blood tests at Bath RUH and said it was dead. Which I guess is a good thing.
Jimmy Floyd
01-04-2020, 04:50 PM
I hope it'll be manageable in most places and only get nasty/overwhelming in the obvious hotspots.
I reckon if they had the data they do now, they would have in many places, to be honest (at least in countries with enough records to know the age of everyone and where they are).
I think basically a bunch of miscalculations have been made very early on that has made it a little too late for everyone everywhere to take any proper actions.
But then also:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-transmission.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage&fbclid=IwAR3oBNUBZhhZRWqBQR3OVQP3WmsDeLX4fgizDLyuS 6-hm_Bes2R3GZSSrPE
It just seems more and more like a bunch of people are just walking around spreading this in society without having a clue they are. So you would have had to A) Quarantine all old people and risk groups and then B) make sure EVERYONE who ever gets to see them (bringing food etc) are all tested like...daily?
A, yes, but B is not necessary, you simply rely on herd immunity amongst the remainder of the population to sort it.
It will be very difficult almost everywhere but most places probably won’t be overwhelmed in the way that London and Birmingham/the Black Country will.
We’re expecting to peak over the Easter weekend for new admissions. It will be hard for a while after that as length of stay with this is quite long.
Shindig
01-04-2020, 05:02 PM
There's the peak and then there's whatever plateau follows.
Should be a plateau of a couple of weeks at most before dropping roughly as rapidly as it grew.
Bernanke
01-04-2020, 05:14 PM
@mazuurk
How do you feel about Swedens approach to this?
It's an interesting experiment for sure.
A major thing that has been overlooked though is the removal of the standard qualifying day for sick leave, which is a weird remnant from our crisis in the 90s. That has a significant signalling effect in keeping people at home as much as possible.
I was in the Netherlands until Friday, and I can't say Rotterdam/Amsterdam and Stockholm feel massively different in terms of activity among the population.
phonics
01-04-2020, 05:16 PM
I have just taken notice to Finlands prime minister. Wish she was ours.
I just googled her and her other role appears to be 'Minister of Transport and Communications'. How are those two things the same job?
phonics
01-04-2020, 05:18 PM
A, yes, but B is not necessary, you simply rely on herd immunity amongst the remainder of the population to sort it.
Taz, I'm closer to your side than Yevrah's but this is just dumb. It's not chicken pox, you can get it more than once.
Bernanke
01-04-2020, 05:20 PM
I just googled her and her other role appears to be 'Minister of Transport and Communications'. How are those two things the same job?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minister_of_Transport_and_Communications_(Finland)
That was her previous position.
I just googled her and her other role appears to be 'Minister of Transport and Communications'. How are those two things the same job?
She’s since moved up to pm as our old pm was a bit useless and had to resign.
phonics
01-04-2020, 05:21 PM
Yes that's what I said. How is being Minister for Transport and Communications the same job. People are so desperate to correct you on this website that two different people don't stop to think that maybe they're the ones that are wrong.
Bernanke
01-04-2020, 05:25 PM
I still don't get what you're on about. Are you trying to say that she wasn't qualified before taking on the current position?
Mazuuurk
01-04-2020, 05:26 PM
I think he was more referring to her physique rather than her rhetoric.
Affirmatory.
@mazuurk
How do you feel about Swedens approach to this?
I'm torn. I think theres reason in not shutting the economy down too much, it's damaging as it is. And a lot of the reasoning is based on having a sustainable distancing strategy for the rest of the year it seems to prevent a massive backlash when they let people outside and in like september as I understand. Herd immunity is the long term game here they are just trying to drag it out. It's all going to depend on how much the contagion had already spread when cases started popping up, which i think is impossible to tell.
At the same time, our death toll is growing like everywhere else.
At least here there seems to be no political agendas almost. All the parties are united and all say listen to the experts so thats what we are doing (the experts here are saying lockdown is as much a political show of strenght as a means of imposing social distancing. But I think we are at the cusp if the big increase now so they may change it soon.
A, yes, but B is not necessary, you simply rely on herd immunity amongst the remainder of the population to sort it.
I mean how are you going to know if someone is immune then? Someone has to bring the quarantined food, no?
phonics
01-04-2020, 05:29 PM
I still don't get what you're on about. Are you trying to say that she wasn't qualified before taking on the current position?
Transport: Trains, Cars, Roads, Buses.
Communications: Phone lines, Internet, Privacy law.
These are not the same things.
Bernanke
01-04-2020, 05:32 PM
Transport: Trains, Cars, Roads, Buses.
Communications: Phone lines, Internet, Privacy law.
These are not the same things.
Didn't figure those two were your sticking point. They're the same thing in that they're both massive infrastructure pieces that require large capital investments and deal with private companies with similar dynamics (rarely SMEs etc.). Can't see why that can't fall under the same ministry/department.
Taz, I'm closer to your side than Yevrah's but this is just dumb. It's not chicken pox, you can get it more than once.
Eh? Beside some distrusted account here or there I thought the understanding was you can't get infected again as with other similar viruses?
I mean how are you going to know if someone is immune then? Someone has to bring the quarantined food, no?
That's the case now anyway. The risk to the quarantined at risk doesn't need to increase just through letting the others go about their business as usual. Of course this is theoretical and based on people not being idiots but as I said, they would then carry the blame.
Yes that's what I said. How is being Minister for Transport and Communications the same job. People are so desperate to correct you on this website that two different people don't stop to think that maybe they're the ones that are wrong.
Or maybe your wording was a bit unclear as me and Bernanke both understood the same way mr. victim complex.
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 06:13 PM
Taz, I'm closer to your side than Yevrah's but this is just dumb. It's not chicken pox, you can get it more than once.
It's obviously early days so we don't know for sure yet, but it's not thought you can get it more than once (or it's very rare at least). There's been an animal study where they failed to reinfect previously infected monkeys and reports of reinfection in humans are very rare/non-existent.
Whether that means long-term immunity isn't clear. You'd have to talk to a virologist about the ins and outs of a virus mutating and what that'd mean for immunity.
Also, @mazuurk and Bernanke. Any decent English articles to read more covid and Sweden.
Adramelch
01-04-2020, 06:15 PM
Even the reports you get on humans getting reinfected come with the "we don't know if the test was faulty" caveat.
Bernanke
01-04-2020, 06:27 PM
Also, @mazuurk and Bernanke. Any decent English articles to read more covid and Sweden.
There was a pretty shit article in The Guardian a couple of days ago that felt like it was completely detached from any understanding of Swedish society, but this one is much better:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/24/sweden-coronavirus-open-for-business/
It's still a gamble and we'll see what happens, but any large scale experiment needs a control group so I guess we're volunteering for that...
Thanks, will have a look.
Lewis
01-04-2020, 06:31 PM
There was a pretty shit article in The Guardian a couple of days ago that felt like it was completely detached from any understanding of Swedish society, but this one is much better:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/24/sweden-coronavirus-open-for-business/
It's still a gamble and we'll see what happens, but the any large scale experiment needs a control group so I guess we're volunteering for that...
This is a SERIOUS QUESTION, but do you have any immunity-related issues from your sepsis ordeal that might complicate this?
Lewis
01-04-2020, 06:32 PM
Sepsis from his rotting bumhole, lads. You remember.
igor_balis
01-04-2020, 06:32 PM
Yep. Just imagine if some poor fucking old bloke has to give his ventilator to me cos I'm young. Dudes probably contributed more to society in any given week then I have in 30 years.
HELLO LR.
At least you've sucked the cum out of a hairy granny's arse, I'd like to see how many of are brave boys have done that? And how many of these so called "Florence Nightingales" have walked from Doncaster to Preston or whatever for a laugh? Checkmate dickheads.
bruhnaldo
01-04-2020, 06:37 PM
The fuck has happened to this thread man..
Bernanke
01-04-2020, 06:38 PM
This is a SERIOUS QUESTION, but do you have any immunity-related issues from your sepsis ordeal that might complicate this?
Nope, only persisting issue is a few rotational muscles in my hip that were removed (got to keep 2.5/5), so not being able to go the gym regularly quickly becomes annoying since my left leg tends to feel a bit wobbly because of it. It's mostly just sensation though, had a PT look at my walking pattern years back and it was fine.
Bumhole was always fine though, thanks for asking. They just removed about a golfball worth of tissue around my tailbone. Still in the crack mind, but pretty high up.
niko_cee
01-04-2020, 06:57 PM
The Iranians seem to have done a remarkable job "flattening the curve" as they say. Sort of reminds me of a school science experiment where you'd do the write-up backwards and never bother with the equipment bar setting a few things on fire with a bunsen burner.
Alan Shearer The 2nd
01-04-2020, 07:00 PM
Did we not have any April fools along the lines of 'Coronavirus lockdown lifted with immediate effect' set on a BBC Breaking News background?
Would probably get done for attempted murder in the current climate.
randomlegend
01-04-2020, 07:07 PM
HELLO LR.
At least you've sucked the cum out of a hairy granny's arse, I'd like to see how many of are brave boys have done that? And how many of these so called "Florence Nightingales" have walked from Doncaster to Preston or whatever for a laugh? Checkmate dickheads.
Weren't those he actions of Hammerstein?
phonics
01-04-2020, 07:10 PM
HELLO LR.
At least you've sucked the cum out of a hairy granny's arse, I'd like to see how many of are brave boys have done that? And how many of these so called "Florence Nightingales" have walked from Doncaster to Preston or whatever for a laugh? Checkmate dickheads.
You got the wrong weirdo that demanded they were banned for their own good.
Jimmy Floyd
01-04-2020, 07:35 PM
The Iranians seem to have done a remarkable job "flattening the curve" as they say. Sort of reminds me of a school science experiment where you'd do the write-up backwards and never bother with the equipment bar setting a few things on fire with a bunsen burner.
It's like a darts quarter-final.
Ooooone hundred and FAWTY.
Spikey M
01-04-2020, 07:39 PM
The fuck has happened to this thread man..
Cabin Fever.
Spikey M
01-04-2020, 07:41 PM
You got the wrong weirdo that demanded they were banned for their own good.
Smiffy sucked the cum out of an old ladies arse?
phonics
01-04-2020, 08:02 PM
It's like a darts quarter-final.
Ooooone hundred and FAWTY.
I was never a fan either but Iran's trying to fight COVID and being shit on for juicing their numbers while being banned from buying the equipment etc. to stop them needing to is the best argument I've seen against sanctions. What's the plan? Hoping half the government dies of it and them seeing the errors of their ways?
Lofty
01-04-2020, 08:18 PM
Smiffy sucked the cum out of an old ladies arse?
Too far even for a man of my calibre.
If the grapevine is correct, I believe we've put aside the war on Covid so that we can focus on territorial gains. DEATH TO AMERICA.
bruhnaldo
01-04-2020, 08:26 PM
Ya ya, we know.
Waffdon
01-04-2020, 08:51 PM
6 week year old died in America after testing positive
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