Coronavirus Death Thread

[Spikey M]

Yes. A position that was created just for him. He was also stealing a living in that position.

Also, that woman is also doing it for a university, hence the "professor".

Thank you for helping a member of the public to understand science.

[Pepe]

You are welcome.

Someone should pay me for this.

[Spikey M]

You'll need to amp up the smugness. You could try starting all responses with "*sigh*" or "How many times...".

[Giggles]

Is this omicron thing real or not? I’ve lost track of which side of the flip flop it’s landed.

[Spikey M]

Real, probably fine, might be more infectious but might also be more mild. The reporting is a mess but that seems to be the takeaway for now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm supposed to be going to a selection of European countries next week for work, I've ordered an eight-pack of tenterhooks to get me through this week.

Cancelled :drool:

Omicron, providing work-life balance since 2021.

[Spikey M]

So I guess in a way... you're working from home?

[Jimmy Floyd]

From my home country. Lazy workshy fuck, me.

[Spikey M]

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:henn0rz:

Only a mild inconvenience though. Who cares if it's utterly pointless.

[Browning]

COVID’s gone too far if it cancels Jimmy’s Xmas Special.

[Giggles]

From my home country. Lazy workshy fuck, me.

So long as they can keep an eye on you.

[Andrew]

So they want to ramp up the booster Rollout for a variant that seems to be vaccine resistant.

The melts that are being interviewed in shopping centres at the minute are the pinnacle of human evolution.

[niko_cee]

Is there any evidence it is vaccine resistant in anyway? And if said resistance also leads to it not being harmful then aren't we shitting the bed for no reason? Also, I was wondering to myself, they always hark back to the original strain which informed the vaccines, is there a point at which recent infection with say the delta variant (presumably more akin to this new variant than the original) becomes an effective way of creating immunity? If that is the case, doesn't logic suggest we actually try to infect the vaccinated with the new strains as they come along so the mild illness builds better immunity?

[Spikey M]

So they want to ramp up the booster Rollout

Yes


for a variant that seems to be vaccine resistant.

No evidence that's true.



The melts that are being interviewed in shopping centres at the minute are the pinnacle of human evolution.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg

[7om]

I just don’t give a toss anymore. I’ll wear a mask indoors if I have to but I’m genuinely amazed people are still screaming on Twitter about this shit. I reckon deep down they love new variants and the associated fear mongering.

[Don]

Spikey's sure altered course from the 'I don't give a fuck' camp to multi-quoting and generally wanking off to it all.

Where's your fucking Mark Noble now, you silly cunt?

[Giggles]

He probably realised the scale of the mongs he was associating with and seen the error of his ways

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59465983

That fixture just keeps on giving.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/30/life-tragic-death-john-eyers-fitness-fanatic-who-refused-covid-vaccine

Some good bits in that, particularly the role of genetics which I hadn't seen confirmed before.

[Boydy]

Does that sort of story not make you consider getting vaccinated?

[Magic]

Does that sort of story not make you consider getting vaccinated?

Why? He's had it twice and hasn't died.

[Kikó]

Is that the barometer? If you don't die, go again?

[Pepe]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/30/life-tragic-death-john-eyers-fitness-fanatic-who-refused-covid-vaccine

Some good bits in that, particularly the role of genetics which I hadn't seen confirmed before.


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[Spikey M]

FACT-based begging.

[niko_cee]

This new omicron contact rule is going to be apocalyptic if they follow through on it. I guess you lot are ok as the machinery of the state is so inept that it would be easy to avoid it, but our Stasi-like public health/border agency bods are going to be all over it.

My sense is this could be the end of widespread support for restrictions if it isn't modified in some way. I also sense, given the track record of those proposing it, that very little actual thought process has been put into working through the consequences of the proposed policy.

[Don]

Does that sort of story not make you consider getting vaccinated?

Naturally. I've said before, if I hadn't had COVID before I would have been persuaded to have the vaccine long ago as I'm not against them.

As it is, it seems like even more of a low risk event than it actually is. I drive without a seatbelt outside of motorways too, proper hard bastard.

[Yevrah]

This new omicron contact rule is going to be apocalyptic if they follow through on it. I guess you lot are ok as the machinery of the state is so inept that it would be easy to avoid it, but our Stasi-like public health/border agency bods are going to be all over it.

My sense is this could be the end of widespread support for restrictions if it isn't modified in some way. I also sense, given the track record of those proposing it, that very little actual thought process has been put into working through the consequences of the proposed policy.

Initially when I saw the news about the new restrictions coming in I thought similar, that this would be horrific, but given there must be about three people still using that dogshit tracing app there's really little way to enforce it properly.

[Magic]

Is that the barometer? If you don't die, go again?

There's this thing called an immune system lol.

[Jimmy Floyd]

:harold:

We get this one, the cultural differences are class.


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No 'hyper-partisanship' or commercial masters here, and definitely no mentioning sums of money, just PASSION and DETERMINATION.

[Yevrah]

We've not even cleared lunchtime yet and the mental quotes are pretty strong today:


Stephane Bancel told the Financial Times he thought there would be a "material drop" in vaccine efficacy.

The Covid variant was first detected in South Africa, and the symptoms have been mild so far.

But travel restrictions have been imposed as a precaution by places including the UK, the EU and the US.

Mr Bancel predicted that existing vaccines would be less effective in staving off Omicron, and that it would take months for drugs companies to update vaccines.

"There is no world, I think, where [the effectiveness] is the same level," he said.

No World? Really? We'll see.


UK health security chief Dr Jenny Harries tells public not to socialise at Christmas with people you "don't particularly need to"

Adult Woman in forgetting how Christmas, or indeed life, works.


Reintroduce WFH to save Christmas - Lib Dems
Ahead of the PM's Downing Street Covid briefing later, the Liberal Democrats are calling on the government to reintroduce working from home guidance to keep Omicron cases down before Christmas.

Christmas, I'm afraid, is happening this year, whether you like it or not.

[niko_cee]

Initially when I saw the news about the new restrictions coming in I thought similar, that this would be horrific, but given there must be about three people still using that dogshit tracing app there's really little way to enforce it properly.

Yeah, alright for you. If I get 'contact traced' to a suspected omicron case after the 15th December then that's Christmas fucked, I don't even get the chance to test, and it's a 10 grand fine or prison. If one of my kids gets traced through a class contact [at the moment the entire class is considered a 'contact' if there is a normal covid case] then that's them done too - this is the real risk as you can 'control' most other settings to ensure you don't get traced. It's batshit, but I don't think the reality will hit until it gets into a school and the school immediately has to close due to the contact rule [which I'm almost certain would happen]. At that point it might be too late, so the only alternative seems to be to haul kids out of school early to avoid being pinged in the [largely pointless] last full week of term if you don't want to have to face the prospect of a needlessly ruined Christmas.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Have they had Covid on Sark? You should get yourself over there before it's too late. I sold some conrod bearings to their fire brigade the other day so in the event anyone tries to Wicker Man your family, there should be more than adequate protection.

[Yevrah]

Fair point, hadn't considered the impact of kids. If that goes ahead, I feel this might be the point where a significant portion of the public just go "fuck this shit".

[Giggles]

The news here seem to be going all in about these two doctors that are TRIPLE VACCINATED and have caught the new one. Did I miss the part where you could anyways catch any variant whether you were vaccinated or not? They were never able to stop someone carrying it.

[Magic]

The news here seem to be going all in about these two doctors that are TRIPLE VACCINATED and have caught the new one. Did I miss the part where you could anyways catch any variant whether you were vaccinated or not? They were never able to stop someone carrying it.

It was never about preventing you getting it it was about stopping you dying if you were old or vulnerable (or grotesquely unhealthy). This is why the PASSPORTS are a sham.

[Don]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/speak-up-and-help-beat-coronavirus-covid-19

They ran out of rows on their excel spreadsheet for track and trace but they want to test for COVID through a voice note :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have dutifully gone back to masks in shops (unlike some TTHers past and present, I always follow the instructions of the British state), but I'm sad to say many of my compatriots appear not to be joining me.

[Yevrah]

I have dutifully gone back to masks in shops (unlike some TTHers past and present, I always follow the instructions of the British state), but I'm sad to say many of my compatriots appear not to be joining me.

Assuming all of that post is serious, how long will you follow the state on this one? Genuinely curious.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If the national government says something is compulsory, I'll do it unless there's a very good reason not to.

[Yevrah]

And would something being pointless never be a good enough reason not to?

[niko_cee]

Have they had Covid on Sark? You should get yourself over there before it's too late. I sold some conrod bearings to their fire brigade the other day so in the event anyone tries to Wicker Man your family, there should be more than adequate protection.

Yeah, they have, although Alderney has been the real killzone. Sark is a tractor based society so it would figure you'd have dealings with them. Did they try to pay with blood diamonds? Maybe you should business trip your way over there.

[Manc]

What's the latest then folks? WFH encouraged for the next decade?

[Magic]

People will behave as per their own agenda. Nothing new here.

[Pepe]

We get this one, the cultural differences are class.



No 'hyper-partisanship' or commercial masters here, and definitely no mentioning sums of money, just PASSION and DETERMINATION.

I should fire up my vpn and see what other countries get.

[Kikó]

There's this thing called an immune system lol.

Yeah but the immune system needs help. Why do you think we create medicine and vaccines ffs.




Adult Woman in forgetting how Christmas, or indeed life, works.



Christmas, I'm afraid, is happening this year, whether you like it or not.

The quote is a little different tbf.

“We’ve seen is, in fact, that not everybody has gone back to work. I’d like to think of it more in a general way, which is if we all decrease our social contacts a little bit, actually that helps to keep the variant at bay. So I think being careful, not socialising when we don’t particularly need to and particularly going and getting those booster jabs.”

[Yevrah]

And that one is just as nuts. Socialising a little less will not stop this variant spreading.

[Yevrah]

And on the booster jabs.

We're worried this variant will beat the current vaccine.
So go and get a booster jab of the current vaccine.

Do they realise what they're saying?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The idea of 'not socialising when we don't particularly need to' is just so public health doctor it's painful.

[Yevrah]

The idea of 'not socialising when we don't particularly need to' is just so public health doctor it's painful.

Indeed. The irony of telling us we shouldn't be doing things we don't necessarily need to when a raft of measures have just been introduced to guard against a variant that we have no actual proof is anymore deadly than the last one is not lost on me either.

[Spikey M]

Spikey's sure altered course from the 'I don't give a fuck' camp to multi-quoting and generally wanking off to it all.

Where's your fucking Mark Noble now, you silly cunt?

There's a fair gap between "I'm bored of this shit" and siding with a "ZOMG THEY WANT TO VACCINATE AGAINST A VACCINE RESISTANT STRAIN IT'S A CONSPIRACY" nutcase and I'm sure Mark would agree.

[Baz]

lol at Greece supposedly fining people for the rest of their lives if they don’t get vaccinated.

[Don]

The idea is to be commended but should be heavy fines for those whose decision actually leads to problems for the state.

[Lewis]

We got an e-mail telling us to mask up 'moving around the office'. No thanks.

[Shindig]

"The booster campaign to be put on steroids." is one hell of a quote from Boris. :D

[Manc]

All this booster talk is making me feel genuinely thick. Why on earth would I get a booster in the current circumstances?

[Shindig]

Didn't Delta have some vaccine escape bollocks? What's more likely is the vaccine just won't work as well for as long as it should do. The boosters must be doing something with the way our deaths and hospital numbers are going down.

[Spikey M]

All this booster talk is making me feel genuinely thick. Why on earth would I get a booster in the current circumstances?

Because the affect of the vaccine wanes over time and having a brand spanking new dose might (maybe possibly perhaps) offer better protection against the Kodos variant.

That said, if the vaccines are shit enough to need 3 jabs a year I can't see many bothering for long. Piss poor.

[Baz]

All this booster talk is making me feel genuinely thick. Why on earth would I get a booster in the current circumstances?

So pharmacies can get paid, durrr.

[Yevrah]

We got an e-mail telling us to mask up 'moving around the office'. No thanks.

Same thing has happened here this morning. I can't blame businesses too much as they really do need to be seen to be doing something against a backdrop of all the FEAR, but I don't think a more stupid rule has ever been dreamt up.

[Baz]

What about having to buy a meal to get an alcoholic drink in a pub?

[Spikey M]

We got a belter of an email on Monday about masks and the "understandable concern" we must all be feeling. The tide is turning though, people are just rolling their eyes at it and bowling around with mask under chin.

I even heard our resident TEAM FEAR member saying she's not having her 3rd dose and she's having Christmas with the family whatever they say. Beautiful :happycry:

[Magic]

Lol at all the businesses cancelling their Christmas parties under the FEAR banner and pocketing the money instead.

[Giggles]

We cancelled ours and I'm just pissed off that I’d already been the black sheep by saying I wouldn’t go months ago. I’d have got away with it now.

[Spikey M]

Ours is booked for next week (it's lunch at a Toby Carvery :happycry:). Hoping for some late in the day policy changes to save me.

[Magic]

Ours is booked for next week (it's lunch at a Toby Carvery :happycry:). Hoping for some late in the day policy changes to save me.

:D

Amazing.

[SvN]

I'm going to be fuming if we have to cancel ours. Already got loads of stuff booked.

[Spikey M]

:D

Amazing.

It's free up to £15 per head and we're allowed 1 Alcoholic beverage. What a buzz.

[Giggles]

Our lot had booked everyone into a hotel so the antivaxer could go too but now they’ve changed the midnight bar closing to cover residents bars too so nobody is arsed.

A Toby would be quality. 10pm Yorkshire puddings and a cask ale :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

There is wonderful pathos about a Toby Carvery. I once saw a young couple in one on what was clearly an early date. He had the works. Potatoes rolling off the plate like the severed heads of his enemies. She had a couple of thin gammon slices and some cauliflower, and was staring deep into the gravy boat. I've never forgotten it.

[Baz]

Did you at least enjoy "the works"?

[Spikey M]

Couldn't tell you the last time I went to one, but I assume overcooked meat, undercooked potatoes and watery gravy is still the order of the day?

We had loads of options on the table, and the majority picked Mexican, but everyone backed down because our resident vegetarian doesn't eat food with flavour and didn't like anything on the menu. :moop:

[Giggles]

:nono:

For that they should have been ridiculed and brought to a steakhouse.

[Spikey M]

He gave it the big "It's fine. I'll just have chips" and the women crumbled. Odds on he just has a plate of dry roasties anyway.

[Magic]

Ours is at Rev in Huddersfield, just in with everyone else rather than a private function lolz.

[SvN]

We're doing a full day thing in London. Escape Room, Crystal Maze, Casino, food at Wahaca, then Karoake and bars afterwards.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You should have sacked the guy in the form of an automatic lock-in.

[Giggles]

That takes the sting out of getting the road at least.

[SvN]

Oh, he's not coming anymore. Which will leave an empty space, perhaps we should have a TTH raffle to decide who gets it.

[Baz]

I think that’s what Giggles meant. He no longer has to go to all that.

[Boydy]

My place is doing a non-official one since the company weren't providing one this year (we are getting hampers and takeaway lunch on the company though which is nice). But it's on the 16th and I figured if I picked something up then, it'd fuck Christmas so I'm not bothering.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My lot are taking us for a pub lunch on the 10th. Three courses, we've had to pre-select the food. I've also got a three-course Christmas dinner that evening courtesy of the cricket world. On the 11th I'm going to look like Mr Creosote trying to go out sideways through the front door.

[SvN]

I think that’s what Giggles meant. He no longer has to go to all that.

Why wouldn't you want a day filled with activities that you enjoy with people you like? I suppose it helps that everyone is of a similar age and knows each other really well.

[Spikey M]

Giggles doesn't like people and he's probably right not to.

[Boydy]

Why wouldn't you want a day filled with activities that you enjoy with people you like? I suppose it helps that everyone is of a similar age and knows each other really well.

They all hate you, mate.

[Baz]

Why wouldn't you want a day filled with activities that you enjoy with people you like? I suppose it helps that everyone is of a similar age and knows each other really well.Even if I was going with my actual mates, all that stuff in one day sounds like hell.

Maybe I’m in the minority. :sorry:

[SvN]

They all hate you, mate.

Could be true, but luckily they all like each other.



Even if I was going with my actual mates, all that stuff in one day sounds like hell.

Maybe I’m in the minority. :sorry:
It's only really 2 activities. The rest of it is just eating and drinking.

[John Arne]

Turns out Omicron is no more dangerous than the regular rona.

Panic over?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Bazzes of this world don't tend to like too many organised activities, as the outgoing are more comfortable in unstructured environments free from the constraints of context. People like me would do better in SvN's day as we like the security of a context in front of us to riff on.

That's it for today's introvert splaining.

[Spikey M]

Turns out Omicron is no more dangerous than the regular rona.

Panic over?

I don't thing severity of illness was ever the concern. It's how transmissible it is and how well the vaccines work against it.

So no. Keep the panic going.

[Pepe]

We're doing a full day thing in London. Escape Room, Crystal Maze, Casino, food at Wahaca, then Karoake and bars afterwards.

If my place tried to get me into that, I would just quit.

[Pepe]

Keep the panic going.

No matter what.

[Giggles]

Giggles doesn't like people and he's probably right not to.

Organised fun.

[Don]

That's at least 3 activities in a single day. That's downright mental and that's coming from the king of banter and jollies. Also, 'Casino' as some standalone capitalised activity before food sounds straight up mental. Having 'Whorehouse' to round off the day would sound less sleazy.

[Magic]

We're doing a full day thing in London. Escape Room, Crystal Maze, Casino, food at Wahaca, then Karoake and bars afterwards.

"Please like me"

[Pepe]

Will awards be provided at the end of the night?

[Magic]

Wearing this:

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[Pepe]

:lol:

[SvN]

:D

I did consider having an employee of the year award, actually.

[Spikey M]

Wearing this:

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:D

[SvN]

That's at least 3 activities in a single day. That's downright mental and that's coming from the king of banter and jollies. Also, 'Casino' as some standalone capitalised activity before food sounds straight up mental. Having 'Whorehouse' to round off the day would sound less sleazy.

The casino is just for one of the guys who doesn't drink, but loves betting in a casino. Most others will just be drinking at the bar.

It's also probably likely to be the first place we go after food, rather than before.

[Yevrah]

Maybe, just maybe, SvN knows what his team will enjoy more than you lot do.

[Boydy]

Maybe, just maybe, SvN knows what his team will enjoy more than you lot do.

Obviously he does but we can still take the piss ffs.

[Magic]

Maybe, just maybe, SvN knows what his team will enjoy more than you lot do.

That's the joke.

[Spikey M]

Maybe, just maybe, SvN knows what his team will enjoy more than you lot do.

https://lthumb.lisimg.com/780/15226780.jpg?width=411&sharpen=true

[Pepe]

:D

I did consider having an employee of the year award, actually.

Can you give it to yourself?

Or to the lad that you are firing, for the BANTS.

[Spikey M]

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Wake up sheeple.

[Pepe]

Shiiiiiiiiiiiii

[Giggles]

Obviously he does but we can still take the piss ffs.

Should probably set up a safe space for himself after such pisstaking.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If I were hatching a dastardly conspiracy - say, to take over the world - I would call it 'Woke Revolt Hatred' and hope no one cottoned on.

[Lewis]

Same thing has happened here this morning. I can't blame businesses too much as they really do need to be seen to be doing something against a backdrop of all the FEAR, but I don't think a more stupid rule has ever been dreamt up.

I've just quietly not followed it and nobody cares. Might be a lesson there.

[Lofty]

I am supposed to be doing the crystal maze on a stag in January and cant be arsed with it at all.

Supposed to be going out tomorrow for pizza and beer but not sure if I'll bother as we have already had the riot act about company credit cards since we are now under the government, so there will be no freebies and I have a shit load of work to do thanks to people going on this shindig so might swerve it like the miserable twat I am.

[Shindig]

Our works do is on Friday but I'd rather watch Gateshead's cup tie. Might've been a different story we hired new people.

[Yevrah]

European Union countries should consider mandatory vaccination to combat Covid and the Omicron variant, the head of its Commission has said.

Ursula von der Leyen said vaccines would be crucial in the fight against the "highly contagious" new variant.

Lovely stuff.

[Giggles]

Lovely stuff.

Don’t see a big pile wrong with that unless it’s just the usual anti-EU sentiment.

[Don]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59499149

https://pics.me.me/thumb_i-dunno-i-think-thats-a-bit-dodgy-mate-what-56742842.png

[Spikey M]

Don’t see a big pile wrong with that unless it’s just the usual anti-EU sentiment.

You don't see anything wrong with people being forced to have a vaccine? You're cool with a multinational organisation deciding that for you and presumably forcing you if you disagree?

That is not a level of power I'd trust any government with.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was thinking Asian betting markets, like those legends who used to switch the floodlights off.

[Boydy]

Later, the start of the second half between Southampton and Leicester was delayed by about 15 minutes after a supporter was taken ill.

This has always bugged me but never enough to look it up, I suppose. Why is it "was taken ill"? It seems wrong.

[Don]

Anti-vaxxers on roids tonight. Pls turn out these cunts weren't vaxxed :D

Increased heart issues come with COVID too in case anyone else is battling tides of shite on Whatsapp.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I always envisage it in terms of ladies fainting at 19th century theatre productions and being carted out of there / 'taken' by men with whiskers.

[Giggles]

You don't see anything wrong with people being forced to have a vaccine? You're cool with a multinational organisation deciding that for you and presumably forcing you if you disagree?

That is not a level of power I'd trust any government with.

Not a problem at all. Force away, or even make life unbearable for the headcases who won’t.

[phonics]

You don't see anything wrong with people being forced to have a vaccine? You're cool with a multinational organisation deciding that for you and presumably forcing you if you disagree?

That is not a level of power I'd trust any government with.

You're forced to get loads of vaccines.

[Spikey M]

You're forced to get loads of vaccines.

By your parents. Not by the government.

[Lewis]

It will be interesting to see how that Greek fining wheeze works in Greece. Nobody pays their taxes, and aren't the island bits of it basically feral?

[Boydy]

Yeah but I don't think there are many Brit tourists there at this time of year.

[Queenslander]

By your parents. Not by the government.

No Jab no play (child care), no Jab no pay (gov benefits) has been the norm down here forever.


Surely the UK has something similar in place?

My missus had to get a list of jabs before she was allowed to go on Holiday to Japan, Nepal and India few years ago

[Lofty]

I know some mental girl who has gone off the deep end. I used to work with her at a working man's club where she wasn't the brightest spark but was notable for having big tits. A quick sweep of her facebook now and she is reposting anti vax conspiracy stuff seemingly every 20 minutes round the clock.

The latest one was some tripe about how hardly anyone ever died of a heart attack playing football before and now over 100 have since having the jab. I was going to point out the numerous studies into sudden deaths while playing football commissioned and completed before Covid even existed but may aswell argue with the cat.

[Spikey M]

No Jab no play (child care), no Jab no pay (gov benefits) has been the norm down here forever.


Surely the UK has something similar in place?

My missus had to get a list of jabs before she was allowed to go on Holiday to Japan, Nepal and India few years ago

Not that I am aware of. We have the right to refuse any form of medical treatment, even if it's not in our best interest.

[Kikó]

I know some mental girl who has gone off the deep end. I used to work with her at a working man's club where she wasn't the brightest spark but was notable for having big tits. A quick sweep of her facebook now and she is reposting anti vax conspiracy stuff seemingly every 20 minutes round the clock.

The latest one was some tripe about how hardly anyone ever died of a heart attack playing football before and now over 100 have since having the jab. I was going to point out the numerous studies into sudden deaths while playing football commissioned and completed before Covid even existed but may aswell argue with the cat.

It's funny how the enlightened all post the same brainless memes. My mate posted a pic of a company called omicron nanotechnology as the "THEY'RE DOING IT IN FRONT OF OUR EYES" post. A company that began 25 years ago and dissolved in 2019, who stopped trading effectively in 2012 is the smoking gun.

I pointed it out and they said (he's got a merry band of followers now) isn't that convenient? Seems a bit inconvenient that your big moment to shine and you are already dissolved as an organisation but hey.

[SvN]

Why do conspiracy theorists always assume that the evil doers will leave cryptic clues for them to share and solve on Facebook?

[Spikey M]

It's funny how the enlightened all post the same brainless memes. My mate posted a pic of a company called omicron nanotechnology as the "THEY'RE DOING IT IN FRONT OF OUR EYES" post. A company that began 25 years ago and dissolved in 2019, who stopped trading effectively in 2012 is the smoking gun.

I pointed it out and they said (he's got a merry band of followers now) isn't that convenient? Seems a bit inconvenient that your big moment to shine and you are already dissolved as an organisation but hey.

That's just what they want you to think.

[wullie]

I was quite happy to get my booster. Few days off work with no questions asked, catch up with Neighbours and Steph's Packed Lunch, helping build back better.

[Kikó]

Why do conspiracy theorists always assume that the evil doers will leave cryptic clues for them to share and solve on Facebook?

There's some kind of karmic balance they believe in which means that their evil doing can occur.

[-james-]

I know some mental girl who has gone off the deep end. I used to work with her at a working man's club where she wasn't the brightest spark but was notable for having big tits. A quick sweep of her facebook now and she is reposting anti vax conspiracy stuff seemingly every 20 minutes round the clock.

The latest one was some tripe about how hardly anyone ever died of a heart attack playing football before and now over 100 have since having the jab. I was going to point out the numerous studies into sudden deaths while playing football commissioned and completed before Covid even existed but may aswell argue with the cat.

I saw someone cite the increased number of deaths in 2021 here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_pla ying) as proof, as if it's not the product of some headcase with google alerts set up for whenever some fat cunt dies while playing Sunday league.

[Kikó]

No one ever died before the vaccine.

[Manc]

Sounds like you all (Kiko) need new mates.

[Spikey M]

He does seem to know alot of nutters. Unless it's the same one, in which case the solution is simple.

I binned a weirdo from school off Facebook a month or so ago for filling my feed with conspiracy memes.

[Yevrah]

The UK government signs deals to buy 114 million more doses of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to use in 2022 and 2023

This is turning into the biggest fear mongering driven gravy train endeavour in all of human history.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't think vaccines are fear mongering. Vaccines stop you getting ill. The pointless restrictions on liberty are the fear mongering bit.

[Yevrah]

I don't think vaccines are fear mongering. Vaccines stop you getting ill. The pointless restrictions on liberty are the fear mongering bit.

It's all interlinked.

Some people are being scared into getting a booster (and correct me if I'm wrong but the evidence of a booster being needed to maintain protection against severe disease at this stage is hazy at best) and some people are being manipulated into getting a booster through the threat of some of their liberties being taken away from them if they don't.

Other people genuinely want one and that's fine and I'd suggest it's also not worth taking the risk of waning protection against severe disease if you're in a risk group, but you do not need 57m doses per annum over the next two years to cover those groups.

This is running wild, I can't fully comprehend why, but it needs curtailing.

[Giggles]

They shouldn’t have to be forced anyway. They should stop being fucking arseholes and just get it. Most of it is just something for bored jobless twats to fill their pointless day with.

[Yevrah]

And when I say running wild I’m only referring to here and not some of the even more batshit nonsense that’s either been done or being proposed on the continent.

But all of it is designed to make you have a vaccine or a booster.

[Yevrah]

They shouldn’t have to be forced anyway. They should stop being fucking arseholes and just get it. Most of it is just something for bored jobless twats to fill their pointless day with.

Are you talking about the vaccine or the booster? I agreed on the former at the time as it was manifestly proven that it would result in a huge benefit to society. Nothing close to being as robust has been put forward for boosters.

[Spikey M]

They shouldn’t have to be forced anyway. They should stop being fucking arseholes and just get it. Most of it is just something for bored jobless twats to fill their pointless day with.

You're right and anyone that hasn't had it is either a mong or a pussy, but I draw the line at forcing people to have it. That's a precedent I do not trust the Trumps and Johnsons of this world with.

[Yevrah]

You're right and anyone that hasn't had it is either a mong or a pussy, but I draw the line at forcing people to have it. That's a precedent I do not trust the Trumps and Johnsons of this world with.

Agree completely. Where do you sit on the mass manipulation we're seeing now though?

[Yevrah]

I've just seen there were Christmas parties held at number 10 last year with dozens of guests. You could not make this shit up.

[Spikey M]

Agree completely. Where do you sit on the mass manipulation we're seeing now though?

I'm not sure what to think of it really. I'm assuming securing further vaccines is an act of caution rather than a plan to jab the whole country 3 times a year for the rest of eternity, but I really don't know. Excess caution certainly seems to be the fashion at the moment. Whether it's more than that... dunno.

[Kikó]

He does seem to know alot of nutters. Unless it's the same one, in which case the solution is simple.

I binned a weirdo from school off Facebook a month or so ago for filling my feed with conspiracy memes.

Generally the same one but I go in for nibbles at different times.

This is interesting re AZ https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59418123

@Yev the booster has shown to give a major boost from the evidence so far.

[Boydy]

Right Yev, you've been dancing around the edge of conspiracy theories for ages now. Shit or get off the pot.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Nothing is planned or a conspiracy. They make it up as they go along, just like the rest of us do.

[Yevrah]

@Yev the booster has shown to give a major boost from the evidence so far.

Please direct me to such.

[Spikey M]

Nothing is planned or a conspiracy. They make it up as they go along, just like the rest of us do.

Probably.

[Pepe]

If the powers that be were ingenious enough to come up with a multi-year, worldwide conspiracy, they would be ingenious enough to come up with a proper response to this shit.

[Yevrah]

Right Yev, you've been dancing around the edge of conspiracy theories for ages now. Shit or get off the pot.

Not everything has to be a conspiracy theory or not a conspiracy theory. All the evidence I've seen so far shows the booster gives increased protection against symptomatic infection and is not being talked about in terms of severe disease, which is ultimately all that has to matter from move on from this nonsense. We're miles away from that at this stage.

[Kikó]

Please direct me to such.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02249-2/fulltext

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2814

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255

[Yevrah]

If the powers that be were ingenious enough to come up with a multi-year, worldwide conspiracy, they would be ingenious enough to come up with a proper response to this shit.

The only conspiracy I'd see as plausible is that some people are going to get very rich out of boosting us all annually in perpetuity, but could that even be painted as a conspiracy? I'm not sure, sounds more like humans human-ing to me.

The rest of the claims - control, Bill Gates, 5G etc. are obviously all absolute nonsense.

[Yevrah]

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02249-2/fulltext

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2814

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255

Thanks for posting the links, very insightful.

I'm all for giving boosters to the vulnerable (as I said in another post), which those studies focus towards, but why do we need to manipulate the entire population into being boosted, possibly until 2024 and beyond?

[Pepe]

I mean, Pfizer will probably make a shit ton of money out of this, but Pfizer were already making a shit ton of money before Covid.

[Yevrah]

If you were Minister of Science Pep, what would your approach be from here on in?

And just been enjoying a BLT while catching up with the latest European responses.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/12/01/covid-19-spike-felt-across-europe-as-vaccination-remains-stagnant

'Run mad' doesn't do some of that anything like justice.

[Giggles]

There we have it.

[Yevrah]

There we have it.

Have what?

[Spikey M]

Just had this from my daughters school:

https://i.ibb.co/mC0ZNJT/Screenshot-20211202-135809-Whats-App.jpg

Have the isolation rules changed or are they just wrong? I thought only the unvaccinated over-12's had to isolate if they live with a person that's tested positive?

Just want to check before I give them the big AKCHOOALLEEE...

[Jimmy Floyd]

They are wrong. What they have cited is the rule for incoming travellers.

[Yevrah]

Prior to Omicron you definitely only had to isolate as an adult if you were unvaxxed. Post Omicron I thought you only had to isolate if you'd come into contact with that variant.

But, people are terrified, particularly 'Mrs 45', so I assume that's why you've received that nonsense. I really do feel for people with kids throughout all this, raising a family must be hard enough as it is.

[Spikey M]

AKCHOOALLEEE sent. Cheers chaps.

[Yevrah]

If we're sharing COVID stuff from our lives, I got this this morning:


Due to the present situation with regards to the new covid variant we wanted to get peoples feelings on attending the Christmas party

Above you will see a vote option

Yes – would still be happy for the Christmas party to go ahead
No – Would like to event to postponed until 2022


It's got cancelled written all over it.

[Manc]

I've just seen there were Christmas parties held at number 10 last year with dozens of guests. You could not make this shit up.

I genuinely believe it could come to light that Boris mowed someone down under the influence and the country would collectively shrug their shoulders.

[niko_cee]

AKCHOOALLEEE sent. Cheers chaps.

Aren't you theoretically supposed to isolate until results if the reason for the test is 'symptoms'? Had 3 school messages today over contacts. :face:

[Spikey M]

Aren't you theoretically supposed to isolate until results if the reason for the test is 'symptoms'? Had 3 school messages today over contacts. :face:

I think the individual has to, yeah. Not the family though. Having to think about all this again is such a pain in the arse.

[Spikey M]

I genuinely believe it could come to light that Boris mowed someone down under the influence and the country would collectively shrug their shoulders.

Being openly dodgy seems to be the best thing you can do in Politics these days. Just slowly amp up the shit you pull over time until eventually you could conduct the frog in boiling water experiment on actual people and get away with it.

[Yevrah]

On the plus side gents, once Omicron gets into full swing there'll be no one left at schools to send the messages.

[Pepe]

If you were Minister of Science Pep, what would your approach be from here on in?

Just let people be. Vaccines are widely available and we've had enough time to get all the information we need. Whoever wants to take it takes it. Whoever doesn't, don't. We will all be immunized sooner or later either via the vaccine or by contracting the virus. I would keep throwing money at the pharma companies so that they keep developing vaccines (and send some to the poor countries), including boosters, new variant versions, whatever, and make it so that they can come to market faster. Also, I would tell the FDA (and other countries' equivalent) to get their act together and approve Paxlovid already. That's it. Want to wear a mask? Go for it. Isolate? Sure. Ten boosters? Why not? None of the above? You do you.

Problem is, government needs to be seen as "doing something", so they "do something".

[Don]

Hasn't the problem always been the lack of medical resources to deal with the repurcussions of not doing anything? Instead of dealing with the root causes of the problem (e.g. Giggles' dietary choices), we're still wasting resources on shitty temporary countermeasures.

[Spikey M]

Hasn't the problem always been the lack of medical resources to deal with the repurcussions of not doing anything? Instead of dealing with the root causes of the problem (e.g. Giggles' dietary choices), we're still wasting resources on shitty temporary countermeasures.

America is fortunate enough to be in a position where just letting fat / old poor people die is the default position of every red state.

[Pepe]

The original goal was stated as preventing the hospitals from being overrun. The current goal? I don't think that anyone knows.

The counterpoint to my stance: I cannot recall the details unfortunately, but Christakis said in his talk that partial vaccination (as in a partially vaccinated population, not individually) is actually worse that no vaccine at all. Ideally, we really would want 90+% of the population to be vaccinated.

[Kikó]

I don't think the loads of unvaccinated taking up the beds issue has gone away unless we just want to turn them away like the lepers they are.

[Pepe]

Is the UK at temporary outdoors hospitals level right now? If so then you should be indeed doing some lockdowns, etc.

[Yevrah]

Given there are fewer than 1,000 people on mechanical ventilator beds vs. the previous high of over 4,000, I doubt it.

[niko_cee]

We were never at temporary outdoor hospital levels, even though we built them, because after we'd spaffed all the cash doing it we realised there were no buggers available to staff said facilities, and that they were, thusly, a massive waste of time/money/resources.

[niko_cee]

Which is probably the lasting motif of covid. Waste on an industrial scale.

[Yevrah]

Germany will ban unvaccinated people from shops and bars, unless they have recently recovered from Covid

So if you're in Germany and refuse to have the vaccine but want to go out for a drink the only option left to you will be to seek out a Covid infection.

[Kikó]

Sounds like progress.

[niko_cee]

So if you're in Germany and refuse to have the vaccine but want to go out for a drink the only option left to you will be to seek out a Covid infection.

The fly in the ointment being you aren't allowed into the indoor settings where you would be most likely to get it. 5D.

[Yevrah]

Turns out they’re looking to mandate vaccines from early next year anyway.

Fascinated to see how that goes - can’t imagine there’ll be any problems caused by making millions of people do something they don’t want to.

The fist countries are making of this after nailing the vaccine is astounding.

[Spikey M]

I'm not in favour of forcing needles into people by force, but at the same time these cunts are getting no sympathy from me. If you want to go to the pub, get vaccinated. If you don't want to get vaccinated, then tough shit really.

[Yevrah]

If they actually do start putting needles into people by force, well, I don't even.

[Spikey M]

You would hope it can never come to that, but how else do you enforce a mandatory vaccine?

Queenslander how does this work down there? What happens if someone refuses a mandatory vaccine?

[Manc]

It's all gone downhill for the Nazis since Kiko's transfer.

[Yevrah]

You would hope it can never come to that, but how else do you enforce a mandatory vaccine?


Presumably they'll start with fines, before moving onto prison. Which is ridiculous enough.

[Kikó]

It's all gone downhill for the Nazis since Kiko's transfer.

I've been super spreading for the last year.

[Spikey M]

Presumably they'll start with fines, before moving onto prison. Which is ridiculous enough.

I suppose they'll need to have special Covid-wings so they can't infect all the nice vaccinated nonces too. :happycry:

[Don]

So now we're seriously discussing forced injections without sarcasm. Page 514. But don't worry, let's lol at those finding anagrams to keep our thoughts light.

[Spikey M]

Yes. We should definitely take the words of faceless conspiracy theorists on twitter as seriously as various European leaders outright saying they're going to make vaccines mandatory.

[SvN]

Which is probably the lasting motif of covid. Waste on an industrial scale.

There's been a testing centre around the corner since April 2020. Every time I drive past, it's empty with 5 or 6 people stood around being paid to do nothing. The waste of money is absolutely mind boggling.

[Yevrah]

There's been a testing centre around the corner since April 2020. Every time I drive past, it's empty with 5 or 6 people stood around being paid to do nothing. The waste of money is absolutely mind boggling.

Same thing was the case when I went to get my test after being absurdly contact traced on a flight - loads of people stood around drinking tea.

[Manc]

Heroes.

[Shindig]

I'm not sure what to think of it really. I'm assuming securing further vaccines is an act of caution rather than a plan to jab the whole country 3 times a year for the rest of eternity, but I really don't know. Excess caution certainly seems to be the fashion at the moment. Whether it's more than that... dunno.

Yep. If it magically runs out of steam, just ship the spares off abroad.

[Yevrah]

Those vaccines boosters are for us, all of us, there'll be no shipping abroad.

[niko_cee]

Is the mass bedwetting that appears to be going on all over Europe because the situation is somehow serious there or are they simply not habituated to the case numbers that the UK has been tolerating for months? Are more people dying, for example? And, if they are, do these people represent the sorts Alpha dispatched for the UK? Delayed mortality and all.

[Shindig]

In Germany's case, it looks like both. 36000 cases a day and pulling in 400 deaths. We haven't had those kinds of numbers since February.

[Magic]

With* bovid.

[Queenslander]

You would hope it can never come to that, but how else do you enforce a mandatory vaccine?

Queenslander how does this work down there? What happens if someone refuses a mandatory vaccine?

Speaking from experience my sister still hasn't vaccinated her 4 year old son from anything. She isn't eligible for the family tax benefit and my poor nephew is excluded from child care and I think he got knocked back from swimming lessons. People are basically shunned from some parts of society and definitely excluded (by the majority of parents) from socialising with vaccinated children as most people dont want to risk there own childs health or pregnant women by exposing them to kids that arent vaccinated. My sister in laws nephews arent vaccinated for anything either and they are constantly run down with the sniffles and only socialise with other unvaccinated children in commune style day-care set ups run out of peoples homes.

I can only speak for QLD but people are going to lose their jobs if they work in the supply chain, QLD Health, Schools, Childcare and refuse to get the covid jab. People wont be allowed in Pubs, clubs, Restaurants etc but that wont be enforced untill after the 17th of December I think.


I try not to follow the daily covid news atm but there hasnt been any mention of fines or jailtime here yet but Victoria and Western Australia will be heading in that direction once we open up good and proper from my understanding.

The Federal Government wont be mandating vaccines they will leave that to the State Premiers so they can play both sides of the coin leading up to next years election.



Edit: Ive been surrounded be antivax crystal woo woo people for the last 20 years give or take and it is purely an aesthetic choice not to vaccinate a child in the same way that choosing the latest fad diet or reiki is an aesthetic choice. My selfish sister is actually vaccinated for literally everything apart from covid. So she gets to LARP in that space while being fully protected from all of the nasty things she takes for granted. Her son though could die of whooping cough if he catches it etc.

Sorry end rant.

[Queenslander]

Feed her to the crocs.



NT Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker said a criminal investigation would be launched into the woman's death, which he said "apparently [has] links to a breach of Chief Health Officer directions".

Authorities have previously blamed a Cairns woman, who they say lied on a border entry form, for the outbreak that began in Darwin in early November and then spread to Katherine.

Commissioner Chalker said officers from the Major Crime Unit would be investigating.

"Suffice to say that the Northern Territory community can be satisfied that the NT Police are investigating the causation and links that may have been to the passing of this lady," he said.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-03/nt-covid-outbreak-first-death-binjari-woman-in-her-70s/100671362?fbclid=IwAR00_TcO5L1m94RkBbM32kn62_0fOas G7NX2X0nuBhkKDnvJ0f2pcsYmX8M

[Spikey M]

Speaking from experience my sister still hasn't vaccinated her 4 year old son from anything. She isn't eligible for the family tax benefit and my poor nephew is excluded from child care and I think he got knocked back from swimming lessons. People are basically shunned from some parts of society and definitely excluded (by the majority of parents) from socialising with vaccinated children as most people dont want to risk there own childs health or pregnant women by exposing them to kids that arent vaccinated. My sister in laws nephews arent vaccinated for anything either and they are constantly run down with the sniffles and only socialise with other unvaccinated children in commune style day-care set ups run out of peoples homes.

I can only speak for QLD but people are going to lose their jobs if they work in the supply chain, QLD Health, Schools, Childcare and refuse to get the covid jab. People wont be allowed in Pubs, clubs, Restaurants etc but that wont be enforced untill after the 17th of December I think.


I try not to follow the daily covid news atm but there hasnt been any mention of fines or jailtime here yet but Victoria and Western Australia will be heading in that direction once we open up good and proper from my understanding.

The Federal Government wont be mandating vaccines they will leave that to the State Premiers so they can play both sides of the coin leading up to next years election.



Edit: Ive been surrounded be antivax crystal woo woo people for the last 20 years give or take and it is purely an aesthetic choice not to vaccinate a child in the same way that choosing the latest fad diet or reiki is an aesthetic choice. My selfish sister is actually vaccinated for literally everything apart from covid. So she gets to LARP in that space while being fully protected from all of the nasty things she takes for granted. Her son though could die of whooping cough if he catches it etc.

Sorry end rant.

Tricky one that as it sounds like making the vaccines mandatory doesn't actually achieve anything. You've just got a 2 tier society and children suffering for their parents decisions.

In some ways it would be kinder for the kids if they did force them to have the jab I guess, but then you'd have to take them away from their parents. Or force the parents too which just feels excessive in the extreme. If it were Ebola doing the rounds I'd probably feel differently.

We are going to end up in a situation where the societal damage done by Covid laws and regulations is far worse than that done by the actual virus. You must already be there in Australia. I haven't heard from New Zealand lately, but I expect they're launching the sick at the moon by now.

[Giggles]

Close the clubs.


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[Queenslander]

Tricky one that as it sounds like making the vaccines mandatory doesn't actually achieve anything. You've just got a 2 tier society and children suffering for their parents decisions.

In some ways it would be kinder for the kids if they did force them to have the jab I guess, but then you'd have to take them away from their parents. Or force the parents too which just feels excessive in the extreme. If it were Ebola doing the rounds I'd probably feel differently.

We are going to end up in a situation where the societal damage done by Covid laws and regulations is far worse than that done by the actual virus. You must already be there in Australia. I haven't heard from New Zealand lately, but I expect they're launching the sick at the moon by now.

Nothing that strict has happened in Queensland as of yet but Im sure that will change after the 17th of December when the hard border with NSW comes down.

[Kikó]

Speaking from experience my sister still hasn't vaccinated her 4 year old son from anything. She isn't eligible for the family tax benefit and my poor nephew is excluded from child care and I think he got knocked back from swimming lessons. People are basically shunned from some parts of society and definitely excluded (by the majority of parents) from socialising with vaccinated children as most people dont want to risk there own childs health or pregnant women by exposing them to kids that arent vaccinated. My sister in laws nephews arent vaccinated for anything either and they are constantly run down with the sniffles and only socialise with other unvaccinated children in commune style day-care set ups run out of peoples homes.

I can only speak for QLD but people are going to lose their jobs if they work in the supply chain, QLD Health, Schools, Childcare and refuse to get the covid jab. People wont be allowed in Pubs, clubs, Restaurants etc but that wont be enforced untill after the 17th of December I think.


I try not to follow the daily covid news atm but there hasnt been any mention of fines or jailtime here yet but Victoria and Western Australia will be heading in that direction once we open up good and proper from my understanding.

The Federal Government wont be mandating vaccines they will leave that to the State Premiers so they can play both sides of the coin leading up to next years election.



Edit: Ive been surrounded be antivax crystal woo woo people for the last 20 years give or take and it is purely an aesthetic choice not to vaccinate a child in the same way that choosing the latest fad diet or reiki is an aesthetic choice. My selfish sister is actually vaccinated for literally everything apart from covid. So she gets to LARP in that space while being fully protected from all of the nasty things she takes for granted. Her son though could die of whooping cough if he catches it etc.

Sorry end rant.

We're a society that has progressed so much that we've forgotten some of the shitty serious disease that other generations had taken for granted. We've got thicker by the absence of serious illness.

[Spikey M]

It would be interesting to see what would happen if an illness like the 1918 pandemic turned up. Where the younger you are, the more at risk you are. How many of them would still take the risk? I reckon it would be surprisingly high. The culture war must be maintained at all costs.

It would also be interesting to see if the oldies would be willing to get jabbed and isolate / lockdown to protect us. :happycry:

[niko_cee]

We are going to end up in a situation where the societal damage done by Covid laws and regulations is far worse than that done by the actual virus. You must already be there in Australia. I haven't heard from New Zealand lately, but I expect they're launching the sick at the moon by now.

We're already well past that point economically. The 2008 crisis ended up with the world addicted to hyper-low interest rates, which seems a bit of an inescapable situation now [for better or worse], this is going to end up with everyone addicted to not really working [fair play to them] and the government spaffing money ad infinitum until it all goes bang in a big way. That and we're going to have a [even more] poorly educated workforce in 10 years as no one has been going to school for 2 years. The horror of the half million deaths or whatever it was going to be will probably pale in comparison to the overall long term damage, plus we'll have had all the deaths too. Win-Win.

[Shindig]

It would also be interesting to see if the oldies would be willing to get jabbed and isolate / lockdown to protect us. :happycry:

I'd put money on them being mostly fine with it. Unless they want to raise the grandkids until they die. And work.

[Spikey M]

We're already well past that point economically. The 2008 crisis ended up with the world addicted to hyper-low interest rates, which seems a bit of an inescapable situation now [for better or worse], this is going to end up with everyone addicted to not really working [fair play to them] and the government spaffing money ad infinitum until it all goes bang in a big way. That and we're going to have a [even more] poorly educated workforce in 10 years as no one has been going to school for 2 years. The horror of the half million deaths or whatever it was going to be will probably pale in comparison to the overall long term damage, plus we'll have had all the deaths too. Win-Win.

Indeed. The fallout is going to be outstanding. There will be some surprise fallout that nobody has considered yet too. A 15 hour Adam Curtis masterpiece is on the cards.

[Spikey M]

I'd put money on them being mostly fine with it. Unless they want to raise the grandkids until they die. And work.

Some of them, sure. But for a lot of them it would be "I WENT TO WAR WHEN I WAS THEIR AGE. NOBODY WRAPPED ME UP IN COTTON WOOL!!!!"

[Jimmy Floyd]

The covid worriers are going to be a hell of a legacy. A sizeable minority of the population now simply isn't interested in living their lives, for fear of catching a virus.

[Shindig]

Indeed. The fallout is going to be outstanding. There will be some surprise fallout that nobody has considered yet too. A 15 hour Adam Curtis masterpiece is on the cards.

"And then something happened that nobody could've predicted." <footage of a Pangolin sneezing>

[Spikey M]

"And then something happened that nobody could've predicted." <footage of a Pangolin sneezing>

That's a bit too on the nose for him. It would probably be grainy 70's footage of an American business man funding a farm, then as the cameraman pans around you realise the farm is on the edge of a forest. THEN we cut to an elderly lady on a ventilator and spend 7 of our 15 hours connecting the dots. 2 hours on Saudi Arabia which will somehow be relevant.

[Magic]

Lol at the adverts still bleating on about SOCIAL DISTANCING, OPENING WINDOWS and GET THE JAB.

[Manc]

In December? No thanks.

[Giggles]

Boom.


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[niko_cee]

500 people in hospital out of a population of what, 4 million? Edit, apparently 5m.

Heads etc.

[Giggles]

He actually said about "trusting the science" in the announcement :D

[Yevrah]

This is all absolutely insane. Like genuinely one of the most insane things I can recall legitimate governments from first World countries doing in my lifetime.

I don't know how it stops either.

[Giggles]

Only 3 other households allowed in a gaff too, which has absolutely no chance of happening.

And you need to have a vaccination or recovery cert to go to a gym or get a haircut.


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[Magic]

:D

Amazing.

[Yevrah]

Might as well pay homage to the upcoming two year anniversary of this shit with the most needless set of rules yet.

[niko_cee]

Masks when moving sounds like a rule you'd apply if covid was actually a T-Rex.

[Lewis]

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A couple of people had ditched their work masks today. Leading from the front.

[niko_cee]

I'm not really sure how the public sector is going to survive long covid.

[Magic]

Normalise asking about underlying health conditions.

[Yevrah]

That sort of stuff makes me genuinely annoyed at this stage. Someone who has looked after their body so badly that they've gone well beyond being morbidly obese (presumably being close to death has seen the weight fly off, so Christ only knows how big she was before) and was too stupid to get the vaccine despite being the definition of a risk group, is now lecturing others about getting the vaccine and the media are giving her air time to do it.

[Giggles]

I read it more as "wise up and don't fuck about" rather than a lecture.

[Magic]

I'm still seeing loads of people that this virus should have killed. We should sue the vaccine makers for burdening the NHS.

[Yevrah]

Maybe, but it's absolutely pointless. If a 30 stone+ sack of skin and fat won't get the vaccine without nearly dying from COVID then I doubt her appearance is going do much to persuade other morons already on that bus to get off it.

[Giggles]

I think bunting shoud be put up to celebrate her being fucked. Only break out the fireworks if she actually dies.

[Spikey M]

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[Boydy]

Oh great, all the southerners will be flocking up to Belfast again. Ffs.

[Giggles]

Oh great, all the southerners will be flocking up to Belfast again. Ffs.

Make a fucking change for once. Even at our most locked down the place was infested here.

[Boydy]

They've been flocking up here for the whole thing because our restrictions have always been behind the south's.

[Boydy]

Hard border NOW. #getbrexitdone

[Giggles]

Hard border NOW. #getbrexitdone

I'll drink to that. If I never see a yellow reg on the road again it'll be all good, the arrogant cunts think once their out of their little province that anything goes.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is all absolutely insane. Like genuinely one of the most insane things I can recall legitimate governments from first World countries doing in my lifetime.

I don't know how it stops either.

I'm with you on this. Heads have utterly gone.

[Giggles]

This is outstanding.


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[niko_cee]

Elsewhere in Europe (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59524527)

:D

[Yevrah]

Reported to the police? Sweet mother of God.

[Magic]

Reported to the police for fraud? I mean fucking hell.

[Boydy]

I'll drink to that. If I never see a yellow reg on the road again it'll be all good, the arrogant cunts think once their out of their little province that anything goes.

Funny cause all the southern licence plates I see up here are always shit drivers.

[Giggles]

I think a lot of the stiff upper lip backlash to any sort of restrictions is that they'd be happier if their own died so long as other countries do too. I'd actually reckon a lot of British would, given the option of this disappearing tomorrow or not, choose the latter in the hope more "Europeans" get it bad. A fascinating mindset really and probably the final remnants of the empire.

[Giggles]

Funny cause all the southern licence plates I see up here are always shit drivers.

We're all shit drivers but we just hate each other so a different one stands out more.

[Baz]

Saw a man walking his dog before with a mask on.

The man had one on too.

[niko_cee]

I think a lot of the stiff upper lip backlash to any sort of restrictions is that they'd be happier if their own died so long as other countries do too. I'd actually reckon a lot of British would, given the option of this disappearing tomorrow or not, choose the latter in the hope more "Europeans" get it bad. A fascinating mindset really and probably the final remnants of the empire.

You're an odd sort.

Would you see this gone tomorrow given the choice? It doesn't strike me as you would, to be honest.

It's also fascinating how 'peoples' who are so intrinsically similar can so profoundly misunderstand each other, and I say that appreciating it fully cuts both ways.

[Shindig]

Elsewhere in Europe (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59524527)

:D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKe027_sAGY

I'm not sure what crime has been committed.