Coronavirus Death Thread

[Waffdon]

Only Edinburgh has given a proper fuck about restrictions from what I’ve see . Refusing folk coming in if they don’t have a mask, each individual gives details and does a temperature check

[Waffdon]

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That makes sense.

[Spikey M]

Yeah, but we're not all dripping with the 'vid down here.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Having just seen Miles Jacobson tweet that he's now going to donate to Liverpool food banks because they 'need it more' than the southern ones he has already been donating to, I think society has now officially bottomed out and we can begin the long climb back to respectability from here.

[Waffdon]

Yeah, but we're not all dripping with the 'vid down here.

So why can’t fans be in Wembley? It’s a 90,000 seater stadium, far easier to spread out than that monstrosity above.

[Kikó]

I would imagine getting to Wembley plays a big part in that decision as well.

[Spikey M]

So why can’t fans be in Wembley? It’s a 90,000 seater stadium, far easier to spread out than that monstrosity above.

Northerners might turn up. They obviously wouldn't at the Palladium.

[niko_cee]

I would imagine getting to Wembley plays a big part in that decision as well.

Aye, as opposed to those famously congestion free routes into central London.

[Jimmy Floyd]

When you realise that politicans are all varying breeds of over-confident nerd who hated sport at school, everything makes sense.

[Manc]

I see that as a result of Greater Manchester going into tier 2, Oldham is having its stricter measures eased to fall in line with tier 2. Oh to be a bar owner in Oldham and to sniff out the opportunity to sue the shit out of the government for their retardedness.

Oldham is the land of your brothers. No alcohol is consumed.

[Kikó]

Aye, as opposed to those famously congestion free routes into central London.

I'm not suggesting central London would be better. Considering the tube is already back to rammed status at rush hour, I can't imagine adding 6-10k extra people travelling on the same route will make a situation better.

[randomlegend]

Didn't Darren Fletcher have something like that? (Obviously not Covid related)

He had (has) Crohn's disease didn't he?

[Lewis]

I'll take a dose of imaginary 'long covid' over that. Ugh.

[randomlegend]

If I had inflammatory bowel disease and got to the point of needing major surgery I would honestly kill myself. It's fucking miserable.

[Manc]

Fingers crossed.

[Spikey M]

He had (has) Crohn's disease didn't he?

Does he? I heard talk of a 'virus' and then a load of people assuming HIV because of how long he had been gone.

It was on Twitter though, so probably bollocks.


I'll take a dose of imaginary 'long covid' over that. Ugh.

Indeed. When I was at Uni I had a girlfriend that bought into all that Chinese herbal tea bollocks and used to go into one of their shops to buy a bag of shite for £20 a month.

Anyway, one day there was a family in there with their 8 year old son who had been riddled with Crohns since birth. The only option left was to have bits of intestine and colon removed. Thankfully the Bat Oil salesman sent them home with cinnamon, dandelion and seaweed so I'm sure he's fine now.

[randomlegend]

Does he? I heard talk of a 'virus' and then a load of people assuming HIV because of how long he had been gone.

It was on Twitter though, so probably bollocks.

https://crohnsandcolitis.org.uk/about-us/ambassadors-supporters-champions/ambassadors/darren-fletcher

UC, my bad.


Indeed. When I was at Uni I had a girlfriend that bought into all that Chinese herbal tea bollocks and used to go into one of their shops to buy a bag of shite for £20 a month.

Anyway, one day there was a family in there with their 8 year old son who had been riddled with Crohns since birth. The only option left was to have bits of intestine and colon removed. Thankfully the Bat Oil salesman sent them home with cinnamon, dandelion and seaweed so I'm sure he's fine now.

:thbup:

[randomlegend]

Fingers crossed.

:(

[Spikey M]

https://crohnsandcolitis.org.uk/about-us/ambassadors-supporters-champions/ambassadors/darren-fletcher

UC, my bad.



:thbup:

Potato / Potatoe, I'd still be finding something tall to fall off.

I've 'mild' IBS and that's enough cunt when it flares up, never mind that stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Spikey shits his pants, lol.

[Spikey M]

Spikey often wishes he could shit his pants but can't.

[Raoul Duke]

Can't or won't?

[Baz]

Again, if you're sending Liverpool into tier 3 at 300-400 per 100K, how long before we're all into it? 1 week?

It's 600 in Knowsley, and not far off in Liverpool. Think it was 582 as of last week. Not looked this week.

St. Helens was 352.7 last I checked, and steadily increasing. :youpi:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's 600 in Knowsley, and not far off in Liverpool. Think it was 582 as of last week. Not looked this week.

St. Helens was 352.7 last I checked, and steadily increasing. :youpi:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/full-list-of-local-covid-alert-levels-by-area

https://i.imgur.com/bTZp3Uy.png

It was nice knowing you Baz.

[Don]

Where can we keep track of these rates the best? It'd be good to have the source which will determine when I'm forced to spill my blood on the streets.

Remember when level 2 was within reach? :****)

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/67A0/production/_112982562_r_alert_level_v4_640-nc.png

[Lewis]

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We're still in nonce nation territory, but the Great British Public do at least blame each other for cases rising. Keir 'Sir Keir Starmer' Starmer was trying to get the government blaming the public over, but fucking obviously mate who is else is spreading it?

[Lewis]

Those numbers taken together suggest that most people think we can either 1) stay inside forever; or 2) stay inside until it disappears. That would explain things, so maybe it needs to be hammered home just how much this is costing.

[Foe]

As long as garden soccer stays on the exempt list.

Will just need to set up a gazebo for outdoor drinking and a clock that never shows beyond 6pm.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've been trying to work out what the local rates best map onto and at the moment my best correlation is Labour votes in the 1983 general election:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/UK_General_Election%2C_1983.svg/800px-UK_General_Election%2C_1983.svg.png

Explain, Lewis.

[Don]

:D

lll

[Jimmy Floyd]

Those numbers taken together suggest that most people think we can either 1) stay inside forever; or 2) stay inside until it disappears. That would explain things, so maybe it needs to be hammered home just how much this is costing.

The splits are where the (very subtle) tell is - it doesn't break by region, class or (relatively speaking) politics but the 'doesn't go far enough' shrieking is biased to women and the old - i.e. those for whom extreme caution is the natural state of affairs. Weirdly the missing 'doesn't go far enough' doesn't break towards the opposite opinion as you get younger, but towards 'don't know', which suggests to me that for the young it's a case of que sera sera, whereas for the old (and female) it's PANIC.

[Lewis]

It's 'The North', but only as imagined by the sort of Labour Party wanks and London tosser affiliates who have been moaning about 'The North' all week. That is to say almost entirely concentrated on Liverpool and 'Greater Manchester', including Cheshire, and with the rural bits of Yorkshire swapped for the Derbyshire coalfields and a couple of other slums in the Midlands.

[Shindig]

"Does you city have two Universities? If the answer is yes, buckle up."

[Lewis]

Things Can Only Get Redder.

[Andy]

Where can we keep track of these rates the best? It'd be good to have the source which will determine when I'm forced to spill my blood on the streets.

Remember when level 2 was within reach? :****)

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/67A0/production/_112982562_r_alert_level_v4_640-nc.png

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-51768274

Theres a post code search there.

[Andy]

"Does you city have two Universities? If the answer is yes, buckle up."

We have two universities and our cases have tripled from 15 per 100k to 45 per 100k since students came back.

It's only just started getting cold though here so
wonder if it will shoot up again now.

[Baz]

Oh to be 45 again.

[Spikey M]

Being the shittest place in the country is a really odd thing to be smug about.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54512034

That fella's timeline looks a bit iffy. Two months between bouts. :D

[Baz]

Being the shittest place in the country is a really odd thing to be smug about.It’s secured my job for potentially forever. So long as nobody I know dies, I’m loving corona life.

[Spikey M]

It’s secured my job for potentially forever. So long as nobody I know dies, I’m loving corona life.

I dunno, there's a few people I know that could do with a dose of Hypoxia.

[Don]

https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1010/fig2/index.html

Where's that fucking :*) emoji and can we have it added?

[Lewis]

Are those increased non-AIDS deaths during the peak poor bastards who couldn't use the hospitals?

[Baz]

https://www.ons.gov.uk/visualisations/dvc1010/fig2/index.html

Where's that fucking :*) emoji and can we have it added?:happycry:

[Don]

Are those increased non-AIDS deaths during the peak poor bastards who couldn't use the hospitals?

Probably those who rightly or wrongly topped themselves as a result of the clubs being closed :happycry: (there's a better orange one but we'll settle for this. Baz :thbup:)

[Lewis]

Finally nobbled by long bird flu.

[randomlegend]

Ronaldo has it. Another way he > Messi I presume, Lewis.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1-0 Ronaldo.

[Spikey M]

10+ years he's been waiting for that. Truly Mahows finest hour.

[Don]

One less game to overtake Daei. That's what the prayers of a nation and a just Allah do :drool:

[niko_cee]

I thought Juve had impounded their squad?

[Lewis]

Ronaldo could flex the virus out by holding his celebration pose for an extra few seconds.

[Spikey M]

Essex Council have requested to be put into high risk despite having some of the lowest cases in the country. Insanity. It's like they don't want people to follow the rules.

[Don]

143 deaths. This sounds serious.

[Lewis]

I'm no electrical engineer (I'm Yevrah), but, unless the silly cunt wants to do one every couple of months, is the term 'circuit breaker' appropriate in this context?

[Spikey M]

The main problem I have with a 'circuit breaker' is that the cases/deaths would still be climbing come the end of it. 2 weeks is the incubation period and the deaths don't come until after 3 weeks. So the idea is to lockdown for 2 weeks, watch the numbers continue to rise, then end the lockdown whilst the cases are higher than when we started?

Uwotm8.

[Don]

Yeah, so that the following weeks drop right off. It's not about it affecting the past :cab:

[Spikey M]

Yeah, so that the following weeks drop right off. It's not about it affecting the past :cab:

They hope it drops off. There will still be transmission within households and amongst keyworkers. There will obviously be a drop, but they would be ending the lockdown before the extent of it is in anyway clear and the hospitals would not be any less full.

[Don]

I've currently got a back injury stopping me from playing football for last month and it's turning dark before I've had my 5th wank of the day, I ain't in no mental space in which I can support it but the logic is clear.

PS. Back-injury aside, it's fairly clear to me the concerns we had about a winter lockdown are coming to fruition. Only thing keeping me from blowing up Giggles' neighbourhood is my daily cod liver oil tablets supplying me my Vitamin D for the day and that's one of the strongest minds of our society admitting that. No gyms for 6 months? Let me see this IG generation cope.

[Spikey M]

I fear your back is preventing you from understanding my point(s).

To simplify: leaving a lockdown before we know how much difference it's going to have made seems a bit silly.

[Don]

I thought you were comparing the merits of it to not having one altogether as opposed to having a longer one. I mean if they know they're about to hit a wall, it probably won't harm to hit the brakes a little beforehand.

[Jimmy Floyd]

A circuit breaker is fucking pointless and stupid. What if cases continued to rise, as I'm pretty sure they did for the first 2 weeks of the original lockdown? Then it would just end up staying in place and fucking everyone three ways.

We should just hang in there and ride it out.

[Spikey M]

I thought you were comparing the merits of it to not having one altogether as opposed to having a longer one. I mean if they know they're about to hit a wall, it probably won't harm to hit the brakes a little beforehand.

Agreed, I'd just have thought they'd want to see how quickly we're stopping before releasing the breaks again. But then again reducing cases by 20% and having them shoot straight back up 2 weeks later would sum this government up.

But then again:


What if cases continued to rise, as I'm pretty sure they did for the first 2 weeks of the original lockdown

Lol :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Last time we locked down on 23 March and cases only peaked on 10 April, and as late as 7 May they were still what you would call 'high' looking back at the period. There is absolutely no way that a 'circuit breaker' would be relaxed/ended with cases rising or still higher than when it started. Absolutely no way. It would end up being another two-month affair at best.

[Jimmy Floyd]

In fact, the first time after Lockdown 1 that cases returned to the level they had been at the day before lockdown (testing notwithstanding) was... 24 June. Strap in, and, well, strap on.

[Spikey M]

Exactly that. Especially when we supposedly already have more people in hospital with it than we did back in March. It makes even less sense with the numbers added.

[Magic]

In Boris' land of the free drinking glorious pints and trolling my Facebook Scottish cunt friends with annoying pint stories.

[phonics]

A divorced dad at a pub on his own taking pictures of a glass of beer is such a depressing stereotype.

Proper Milhouses Dad behaviour.

[Spikey M]

:D

[niko_cee]

We should just hang in there and ride it out.

As has always been the case. Unfortunately the country will be bankrupt/ruined before this realisation is come to, and whatever was hoping to be staved off will end up happening anyway.

[Shindig]

Hang in there against something that was a bigger killer than cancer and heart disease is ... a grim thing to consider. There's no good option.

[Don]

I'd like to believe we're at the epicentre of a meltdown but isn't most of the world doing the same?

[Don]

Hang in there against something that was a bigger killer than cancer and heart disease

What the sweet fuck is this?

[Shindig]

450 people on average die of cancer every day. Covid daily deaths were in excess of that for weeks straight during the first peak.

[Don]

That'a magnificent stats, there's a job waiting for you in SAGE.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd like to believe we're at the epicentre of a meltdown but isn't most of the world doing the same?

France and Spain are the ones to keep an eye on as they had the second wave first and I don't think there's any wildly strict lockdowns there (except somewhat in Madrid now but still not akin to the first lockdown): the frogsters are probably still just about rising cases-wise and staying under 100 deaths most days, whereas our jamon-guzzling amigos have maybe slightly flattened out now, and their deaths slightly higher than France but nothing spectacular at all. The French track & trace has also just gone in the bin so we're not alone in that.

Ze Germans are also now starting to see an uptick so even the master race are going to need to track and trace at a faster pace.

[Lewis]

As if the French were ever going to track and trace. They were probably less likely than us. Let the Germans have it.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54527400

The Government are listening lads.

[Giggles]

It's all a load of shite though really. At this stage you'll find an "expert" to tell you whatever your preferred angle on this is correct.

[Jimmy Floyd]

But Dr Roland Salmon, former director of communicable diseases at Public Health Wales, said it will not suppress the virus.


His view was echoed by Prof Dale Andrew Fisher, who specialises in infectious diseases at the National University Hospital, Singapore, and is part of the World Health Organisation's outbreak alert and response network.

:sherlock:

Nicola Sturgeon hasn't locked down yet either. Has anyone asked Dr Simon Trout for his views on the matter?

[niko_cee]

It's all a load of shite though really. At this stage you'll find an "expert" to tell you whatever your preferred angle on this is correct.

Isn't this almost always the case in all fields?

[Spikey M]

Woke up with a headache, cough and slight temperature. Roughly 2 weeks after I had to take my daughter for a test as well. Test booked for 12. RSVP in Pisces.

[Waffdon]

:sherlock:

Nicola Sturgeon hasn't locked down yet either. Has anyone asked Dr Simon Trout for his views on the matter?

Central belt is basically in lockdown.

[Spikey M]

4 week circuit break in Norniron. Atleast that makes a bit more sense than 2 weeks.

[Boydy]

It's 4, no? And schools are only closing for 2.

[thommo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-54535481

Scousers took the lockdown news well last night then.

[Spikey M]

It's 4, no? And schools are only closing for 2.

Yeah. Typo. Schools opening for 2 of those weeks probably renders it completely pointless though.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Schools aren't going to close again.

[SvN]

Our tests came back negative, which is a relief. Must be some other virus my son's brought back from nursery.

Guy at work has tested positive, but loss of taste and smell is his only symptom

My son has been getting worse, and we took him to a GP on Monday at the advice of 111. They've said it's got all the signs of being COVID, and we all need to get re-tested and self isolate (again). We had our tests Monday evening, now just waiting for the results.

I'm not feeling too bad other than the occasional coughing fit. My son has a fever, terrible chest and is generally quite cranky. Hoping to get results today as I'm already fed up self-isolating. We've been doing it for 9 of the last 12 days. But a work colleague recently said it took 5 days to get their results back.

[Boydy]

Ah, that's shit, SvN. Hopefully it isn't and he gets better soon.

What age is he now?

[Spikey M]

Schools aren't going to close again.

Which is all well and good, but Schools, colleges and Universities are where this breeds. They can close every pub in town, it's not going to stop Tilly-Bob and Tyler-Tyler from bringing it home.

[Spikey M]

My son has been getting worse, and we took him to a GP on Monday at the advice of 111. They've said it's got all the signs of being COVID, and we all need to get re-tested and self isolate (again). We had our tests Monday evening, now just waiting for the results.

I'm not feeling too bad other than the occasional coughing fit. My son has a fever, terrible chest and is generally quite cranky. Hoping to get results today as I'm already fed up self-isolating. We've been doing it for 9 of the last 12 days. But a work colleague recently said it took 5 days to get their results back.

Yikes. It would be odd for Covid to hit a kid that hard, no?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Which is all well and good, but Schools, colleges and Universities are where this breeds. They can close every pub in town, it's not going to stop Tilly-Bob and Tyler-Tyler from bringing it home.

May well be so, but they're not going to, other than possibly an extra week at half term. If you start indefinitely shutting down children's education then the country is doomed. Schools will be the last thing to close and they'll sacrifice all manner of other things to keep them open if necessary.

[randomlegend]

This all does make you wonder what would happen if something really deadly started going around.

[Ian]

They've got futures in Cyber to look forward to, them dreams ain't gonna crush themselves if schools keep getting shut.

[randomlegend]

Yikes. It would be odd for Covid to hit a kid that hard, no?

I don't think we saw a single kid who was unwell enough to be admitted who tested positive. All the ones who were actually ill had flu or other things. Would be weird for all three of you to test negative if you all actually had it.

[Spikey M]

This all does make you wonder what would happen if something really deadly started going around.

I think that's the difficulty here. It's only an inconvenience to most of us. If Ebola started going round I imagine the debate would be limited to whether the armed forces should leave your rations on the doorstep or at the end of the drive.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This all does make you wonder what would happen if something really deadly started going around.

Spanish flu was taking out the young more so than the old, that would have sorted out social media for a bit.

[SvN]

I don't think we saw a single kid who was unwell enough to be admitted who tested positive. All the ones who were actually ill had flu or other things. Would be weird for all three of you to test negative if you all actually had it.

If we all tested negative and it turns out we've got it, it shows what a shambles the testing is. I suspect it's a different respiratory viral infection.

[phonics]

The test is only 70% accurate.

[Spikey M]

It's also 70% hideous. That was not an enjoyable experience.

[Pepe]

Spanish flu was taking out the young more so than the old, that would have sorted out social media for a bit.

Old people are the worst when it comes to social media.

[Yevrah]

You didn't administer it yourself, did you?

[Pepe]

Which is all well and good, but Schools, colleges and Universities are where this breeds.

We've had one case in the last four weeks.

[Lewis]

You didn't administer it yourself, did you?

With a quarter of the swab.

[Spikey M]

You didn't administer it yourself, did you?

Yeah.

[Don]

Sturgeon saying Scots should refrain from their 'annual ritual' of a trip to Blackpool really captures the sort of uneducated poverty stricken trash I'm sacrificing 12-18 months of my youth for.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Surely you're out of "your youth" by now?

[SvN]

70% is absurd if that's the reliability. I was told I could stop self isolating after my test, despite the fact I still had symptoms.

If I do turn out to have it, I will probably have infected others.

[Yevrah]

Yeah.

You must be one of the few who actually did it properly then. I've spoken to loads of people now who've proudly told me they're Covid negative and the test was fine. If it's fine, I think you're doing it wrong and no wonder it says you're negative.

[Boydy]

Surely you're out of "your youth" by now?

By "his youth", he means the people he's grooming.

[Lewis]

Surely you're out of "your youth" by now?

I read 'my youth' as someone he has groomed. Takeaways actually being busy will have disrupted that racket.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You must be one of the few who actually did it properly then. I've spoken to loads of people now who've proudly told me they're Covid negative and the test was fine. If it's fine, I think you're doing it wrong and no wonder it says you're negative.

I also had to self-administer my test.

Swabbing my throat was horrific, up the nose was uncomfortable but not too bad.

[Lewis]

Wahey. Two people means peer review. CERTIFIED.

[Alex]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54527400

The Government are listening lads.

It's amazing how quickly an idea picks up traction once you apply one of those wanky, buzz-word terms to it ("circuit break") that politicians love to come up with.

"Yeah.....we should definitely "circuit break". That sounds like it will sort it!"

I think if you pitched it as "we reckon that we just, you know, sort of half lock down again for a couple of weeks and see what happens" nobody would give a fuck about the idea.

[Waffdon]

The north of England is about to get massive spikes from the dirty Glaswegians travelling south to watch the OF match in a pub. Hopefully they all end up in the same area and Manchester in 2008 is recreated.

[Spikey M]

You must be one of the few who actually did it properly then. I've spoken to loads of people now who've proudly told me they're Covid negative and the test was fine. If it's fine, I think you're doing it wrong and no wonder it says you're negative.

Well it was enough to make me retch when I deep throated the thing, so I hope so anyway.

[Boydy]

Wahey. Two people means peer review. CERTIFIED.

:D

Lol

[Spikey M]

If we're all having to wear masks to keep each other safe, then why can't the test be as simple as coughing into a bag for them to swab? Fucking sadists.

[randomlegend]

70% is absurd if that's the reliability. I was told I could stop self isolating after my test, despite the fact I still had symptoms.

If I do turn out to have it, I will probably have infected others.

I don't know how they work it out, but our lab reckons our tests have been much better than initially thought. Sensitivity 95% or something.

[randomlegend]

You must be one of the few who actually did it properly then. I've spoken to loads of people now who've proudly told me they're Covid negative and the test was fine. If it's fine, I think you're doing it wrong and no wonder it says you're negative.

The official guidance is to do a superficial swab of each tonsil and each nostril with the same swab. Not to do the deep nasopharyngeal swabs we do for flu etc. We are all very suspicious of this.

[Baz]

What if you’re a cuck and had your tonsils removed as a useless child?

[Yevrah]

The official guidance is to do a superficial swab of each tonsil and each nostril with the same swab. Not to do the deep nasopharyngeal swabs we do for flu etc. We are all very suspicious of this.

Suspicious? As in overzealous nurse Ratched types doing it for the thrill?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What if you’re a cuck and had your tonsils removed as a useless child?

You do it roughly where they used to be.

[SvN]

The tests are indeed horrific. I can't do my tonsils without gagging and retching like a motherfucker, which makes it more difficult. Especially as it says the test is void if you touch any other parts of your mouth/tongue.

The nose isn't as bad, but it still makes my eyes water.

[randomlegend]

Suspicious? As in overzealous nurse Ratched types doing it for the thrill?

Suspicious as in we wonder if they are asking us to do dodgy swabs that give negative results to make things look less bad than they are. Most of the nurses are doing the old school tickle your brain ones regardless.

[Yevrah]

Is this the first example of a reasonably sized business so publicly defying the government?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54535679

Interesting if so.

[Giggles]

That first quote is laughable. So they’re refunding memberships then?

A bus load of riot squad needs to rock up and leave the places as a shell.

[Disco]

He's making some whopping leaps of logic and assumptions there, funny how they all justify him opening up.

[Boydy]

Lol at the gym bros crying.

[Don]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/13/world/spinco-canada-covid-19-outbreak-trnd/index.html

:happycry:

[Boydy]

You're indoors, sweating over equipment other people will use and breathing heavily. How can they argue it's safe?

Just lay off the roids for a month, lads.

[Don]

We can't all subsist on Netflix. In a country with this winter climate, gyms play a very important role.

[Disco]

Just go for a run outside you fannies.

[Don]

It gets dark often before a lot of people have their evenings free. And even if you do tool up with a head torch like some freakshow, I'm not sure women can be as brave when the likes of me are loitering about.

[Andy]

Is this the first example of a reasonably sized business so publicly defying the government?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54535679

Interesting if so.

Seven armed police turned up and gave him a £1000 fine, said they'd be back In 3 hours and if the gym is still open it would be a £2000 fine and they'd be checking back every three hours and the fine doubling if they continue to stay open.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CGVFZ28D2_9/?igshid=nwqzvtj0ryj7

[randomlegend]

I'd rather be in a covid ward than a gym.

[Lewis]

Armed police. They should say they're protesting.

[Boydy]

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[Giggles]

When’s your lockdown starting Boydy? I think our 3 ulster counties are going to level 4 with you.

[Magic]

I'd rather be in a covid ward than a gym.

You'd be doing nothing in both tbf.

[randomlegend]

Nothing > pissing yourself.

[Lewis]

Gyms are clean and the people in them are healthy. The only reason I haven't been back yet is because mine is being stupid about it all.

[randomlegend]

Gyms are clean and the people in them are healthy. The only reason I haven't been back yet is because mine is being stupid about it all.

Gyms are full of people aerosolising their bodily fluids.

[Don]

You'd be doing nothing in both tbf.

This is the sort of toxicity we're here for :D

[Lewis]

And Taz hoovering most of them up for the team.

[Don]

I'll aerosolise my bodily fluid all over...

[Boydy]

When’s your lockdown starting Boydy? I think our 3 ulster counties are going to level 4 with you.

Pubs and restaurants are closed from Friday. Schools are off from Monday.

[Boydy]

Gyms are clean and the people in them are healthy. The only reason I haven't been back yet is because mine is being stupid about it all.

"The people in them are healthy"

What difference does that make? They can still spread it.

This is all seeming a bit like the time you didn't understand how antibiotics work when you thought antibiotic resistance wouldn't affect you because you never take them.

[Lewis]

They're significantly less likely to die of it, so let the people train.

[Giggles]

They're significantly less likely to die of it, so let the people train.

That gets thrown about a lot but they can still spread it the same as anyone else.

[Don]

Stand down, Lewis. Team Panic can sniff blood. Let me and Magic handle the night shift by mocking their need for testosterone supplements.

[Foe]

The amount of sanitising that happens in my gym is mental. Have to wear a mask when doing anything other than exercising. Want another weight plate? Put your mask on or the mask police will get you.

They’ve spread everything out so it really isn’t much different to a supermarket or restaurant.

As long as you’re not going around licking the benches or dumbbells you’ll feel pretty safe.

Worth the Covid risk for the fit student birds in yoga pants anyway. Get Boris down there and he’d perk right up.

[Foe]

They’ve definitely turned the HVAC in mine off though, which means I’m dripping in sweat the entire time, which must be counter intuitive.

[randomlegend]

Have to wear a mask when doing anything other than exercising.

Brilliant.

[Foe]

My definition of exercising of “being within a gym” is slightly different to theirs, unfortunately.

[Lewis]

The amount of sanitising that happens in my gym is mental. Have to wear a mask when doing anything other than exercising. Want another weight plate? Put your mask on or the mask police will get you.

If returning weights is part of your routine then so is fetching them. Check MATE faggot gym.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How dare they not believe that staring at women is exercise.

[Alex]

"The people in them are healthy"

What difference does that make? They can still spread it.

This is all seeming a bit like the time you didn't understand how antibiotics work when you thought antibiotic resistance wouldn't affect you because you never take them.

So let the healthy become....less healthy, so they don't accidentally spread it to the already unhealthy?

We're talking about discouraging fucking exercise here. :D

As long as the equipment is properly cleaned (which it will be) and everyone adheres to social distancing (which they can do in the gym as easily as they can do in the fucking supermarket) it's really not an issue. And for the record, I don't go to the gym. I do all my exercise outdoors. But if somebody tried to take it off me I would be having none of it.

[Boydy]

They can exercise outside or at home for a month or two ffs.

[Yevrah]

They can exercise outside or at home for a month or two ffs.

It's not a month or two though is it, this has been going on (on and off) for over 6 months now, with no sign of it stopping.

[Lewis]

1316418588207648774

Solidarity brothers. Fuck supermarket deliveries. I went out and toiled for my shopping like a Stakhanovite. Toiled for it.

[Spikey M]

Stop eating peanuts, you might walk past someone that is allergic to peanuts.

If you're vulnerable, look after yourself. Simple.

[Alex]

They can exercise outside or at home for a month or two ffs.

Can they? I might not want to suddenly take up running if I'm used to doing all my cardio in the gym. They're not always comparable activities. If I was into weight training, I might not have (probably wouldn't have) the required equipment to train at home. I should just give up the choice of a healthy lifestyle, that I may well have put years of work into, all of sudden?

Discount the old and vulnerable, who should be shielding anyway, then fuck interrupting healthy living on the off chance I might pass it on to somebody who is technically in the same bracket as me but has chosen to live some sort of largely sedentary lifestyle up to this point that has put them at risk. No thank you. That sounds a lot like their problem.

[Don]

We let the 'shield the infirm and get on with it' dove fly as it became apparent there's no real controlling this thing when it's penetrating the White House and elite footballer bubbles so easily. I don't think there's life in that without combining it with the 'open the nightingales, brace for the deaths and let's have a cleanse'.

[Boydy]

It's not a month or two though is it, this has been going on (on and off) for over 6 months now, with no sign of it stopping.
Okay, six months then. We're close to running out of ICU beds in Northern Ireland and a load of elective surgeries had to be cancelled in Belfast this week. Fuck gyms. (Although they're still open here anyway, they just can't run group classes now).

[phonics]

Stop eating peanuts, you might walk past someone that is allergic to peanuts.

If you're vulnerable, look after yourself. Simple.

This is such a dumb comparison. Have you never been on a plane that doesn’t serve peanuts due to someone with an allergy on the plane? It happens all the time.

Someone got sent to jail for murder recently because they cooked a guys curry in the same pan that had peanuts in it several orders previous.

[Alex]

This is such a dumb comparison. Have you never been on a plane that doesn’t serve peanuts due to someone with an allergy on the plane? It happens all the time.

Someone got sent to jail for murder recently because they cooked a guys curry in the same pan that had peanuts in it several orders previous.

That analogy doesn't work at all. What percentage of your life do you tend to spend on an aeroplane? We're talking about day to day life here. Existence. Not a pre-planned, few hours on a plane, on the odd occasion you do travel on one. The two are not comparable at all.

[phonics]

That analogy doesn't work at all. What percentage of your life do you tend to spend on an aeroplane? We're talking about day to day life here. Existence. Not a pre-planned, few hours on a plane, on the odd occasion you do travel on one. The two are not comparable at all.

Yeah who could compare day to day working life to spending several hours in an enclosed space with random people. That’s wild. Oh wait that’s getting the bus to work and then spending all day in an office and then getting back on the fucking bus.

It sounds like wank but you literally spend the majority of your waking hours on an airplane called society and your ability to eat and therefore survive depends on it. Peanut allergy or not.

[Alex]

Yeah who could compare day to day working life to spending several hours in an enclosed space with random people. That’s wild. Oh wait that’s getting the bus to work and then spending all day in an office and then getting back on the fucking bus.

It sounds like wank but you literally spend the majority of your waking hours on an airplane called society and your ability to eat and therefore survive depends on it.

You can't compare "society" to air travel though mate, that was my point. Because the latter is a luxury and a massively infrequent occurrence, whereas the former is your day to day life.

You wouldn't sit through a whole, aeroplane-safety style "in the event of a crash" demonstration every time you got on a bus or the tube, would you? You don't mind on the plane, because you're going to be in fucking America or something in a few hours.

"Please indulge us in the temporary inconvenience of not eating peanuts on the aeroplane, because the people who are allergic to peanuts would like the chance to partake in this optional, but very beneficial, experience too" - Fine, I can do without peanuts for a few hours and that is a reasonable request.

"Don't eat peanuts EVER, in your day to day life, because the people who are allergic to peanuts have a minuscule chance of dying of their peanut allergy whilst going about their daily business, if they're up-wind of you when you're eating them and the subsequent fallout somehow kills them" - Please tell the people who allergic to peanuts to A) Get a grip, and B) Stay in their peanut-free homes if they feel that strongly about it.

[phonics]

There’s literally an announcement to mind the gap at every stop on the underground. Motorways have constant reminders not to drive tired. You’re legally obligated to wear a seatbelt. You can’t have more than a pint and drive. I can’t fucking smoke a cigarette within half a mile of somewhere in case someone inhaled a micro gram of my exhaled smoke. We do shit to protect others all the time.

Love the idea of people who can die from peanuts being in the air being told to ‘get a grip’ though. Just an insane amount of selfishness on display.

[Spikey M]

There is a big difference between not eating nuts on a flight (or telling someone to mind the gap) and putting everyone's finite lives on hold for however long this rattles on for.

My kids are missing out on their childhood, people are losing jobs, homelessness unlike anything we've ever seen before is on the horizon. How many livelihoods are we willing to sacrifice before we we ask the vulnerable to shield themselves or 'mind the gap'?

[Jimmy Floyd]

All of them, Spikey. It's just not safe.

[Giggles]

If people would do even a little of what was initially asked then it wouldn't have gotten to this anyway.

[Spikey M]

If people would do even a little of what was initially asked then it wouldn't have gotten to this anyway.

Had the Government put masks in place at the start and had a proper track and trace system ready to go whilst panic buying, and doorstep clapping was going on, then we probably could have managed the situation.

As it is... not going to happen. You only have to look at the mass-street parties Liverpool had in response to being put in the 'Very High Risk' category to see that.

[Giggles]

Wouldn’t matter when masks were put in place, cunts will use every excuse in the book not to wear them.

[Spikey M]

Wouldn’t matter when masks were put in place, cunts will use every excuse in the book not to wear them.

To an extent, sure. But there'd be less of them and peer pressure at the time would have seen them bullied out of most places.

[randomlegend]

As long as the equipment is properly cleaned (which it will be) and everyone adheres to social distancing (which they can do in the gym as easily as they can do in the fucking supermarket) it's really not an issue.

It's no wonder we can't get any kind of control when people believe shit like this.

[Shindig]

Even then, masks are only used in specific cases. We've got compulsory masks now in the office but the rules about them include, "Hey, wear them in communal areas and around the main building but you don't need to at your desk."

This is life now.

[niko_cee]

Isn't the point you actually can't get control (in an absolute sense, which is probably what you need) and sustain the society we've built around us in any meaningful way, so you sort of have to make a choice.

If any of that 'proper use' shit is genuine then I'm not sure what difference masks would have made. Most (like 90%+) people don't use them properly, but I'm willing to believe 'the science' on proper use is a load of bunkum and go with intuition/received wisdom.

[phonics]

Only in 3rd world western countries.

[niko_cee]

Only in 3rd world western countries.

By which you mean large developed nations, as opposed to tiny enclaves built on tax fraud and/or pocket knives.

No restrictions at all here. :cool:

[Kikó]

My main takeaway from this page (other than agreeing with Giggles) is I fancy some peanuts.

[Shindig]

Isn't the point you actually can't get control (in an absolute sense, which is probably what you need) and sustain the society we've built around us in any meaningful way, so you sort of have to make a choice.

If any of that 'proper use' shit is genuine then I'm not sure what difference masks would have made. Most (like 90%+) people don't use them properly, but I'm willing to believe 'the science' on proper use is a load of bunkum and go with intuition/received wisdom.

Nah, masks have a proper impact but it's not a silver bullet. They need to be worn, cleaned and discarded properly (I'm sick of seeing them discarded on the ground) in conjunction with the hand washing and cleaning of surfaces. I'm also sick of people lifting them to talk to someone. The fuck is that?

[niko_cee]

Well exactly, and no one cleans them properly, or changes them with sufficient frequency.

I'd still be willing to believe in their utility, to some extent, though.

[Magic]

I've worn the same couple of masks since they became mandatory. They are the disposable blue ones.

[Magic]

Have we had millions of deaths yet from the Easter parties and BLM protests? @RL

[Jimmy Floyd]

London going into tier 2 from Friday means that I can mix in households on one side of the bridge down the road, but not on the other. Happy days.

[Kikó]

Amateur sport is still okay right?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Amateur sport is allowed at level 2 (if organised by an official body) but banned at level 3.

[phonics]

By which you mean large developed nations, as opposed to tiny enclaves built on tax fraud

But enough about London...

[Kikó]

Amateur sport is allowed at level 2 (if organised by an official body) but banned at level 3.

Mon the level 2!

[Spikey M]

But enough about London...

Isn't the entire Swiss economy built on small knives, noisy clocks and tax evasion?

[John Arne]

And cheese fondue.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Mon the level 2!

Enjoy it while it lasts. I am amazed we got 10 weeks of cricket in.

[phonics]

Isn't the entire Swiss economy built on small knives, noisy clocks and tax evasion?

Mostly the latter and pharmaceuticals. Much like London.

https://i.imgur.com/s318QAk.png

That's the joke.

[Don]

The reaction when we're all in tier 3 next week and an escalated national lockdown by following week :happycry:

[Kikó]

Enjoy it while it lasts. I am amazed we got 10 weeks of cricket in.

Yeah, I'm thinking 2-3 games maximum (maybe first week of November we are done until Jan-Feb).

[Spikey M]

https://i.ibb.co/qymrnhk/Screenshot-20201015-110732-Samsung-Internet.jpg

:o

[Pepe]

Contact transmission is not really a thing, so the whole cleaning of surfaces is nothing but ritual.

[Queenslander]

Bledisloe no 3 at Lang Park is gonna be sick.

[Don]

Queenslander's trolling :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

My home borough has gone into Tier 2 now despite my ward at least being at 44 per 100,000. Councils absolutely desperate to be classified higher for the associated cash grab.

[Spikey M]

London going into tier 2 from Friday means that I can mix in households on one side of the bridge down the road, but not on the other. Happy days.

Same here. We don't fall under Essex County Council, so we're not included but half of my wife's family are. Her Grandad is currently receiving palliative care and will be lucky to make Christmas. We will now probably never see him again. Well... we will, because Essex Council can fuck themselves, but you get my point.

All this because the head of the Council - who lives in Suffolk - asked to have the tier changed to High risk. There are places with far more Covid cases still in the medium risk category. What an absolute shambles.

[Queenslander]

Queenslander's trolling :drool:

Im also the idiot of the board.

[Spikey M]

Im also the idiot of the board.

Objection.

[Jimmy Floyd]

In all seriousness, this is awful. Winter is shit enough as it is without being forced into confinement for the next four months or whatever. The worst thing about lockdown 1 was the absence of things to look forward to on a daily/weekly basis, and it will be the same now. If I have to do another Zoom quiz I might shoot myself in the fucking face.

[Foe]

The weather being nice made it tolerable for people living alone.

Try that when it’s pitch black, cold and wet. Christ.

Add on top people losing jobs and we are in for an almighty shit show if we do lockdown.

[Yevrah]

The tier 3 rules are basically lockdown + kids at school, no?

It's happening and it's going to be grim.

[Spikey M]

The tier 3 rules are basically lockdown + kids at school, no?

It's happening and it's going to be grim.

+ Weatherspoons.

[Andy]

We will all be in some state of lockdown soon.

Schools and universities will be open, non essential shops will be open and construction/housing will carry on but all social interaction will be off.

Its going to be awful. I wouldnt be surprised if we are all tier 3 by the end of the month as the cold weather really starts to come in.

[Lewis]

Jeremy Hunt - former Health Secretary, and previously seen as a sensible head on this - has asked Matt Hancock for a target of when 'every single person in the population will be tested every week' as the basis for returning to 'normality'. Ten million tests every day. Normality. This is mental.

[randomlegend]

Contact transmission is not really a thing, so the whole cleaning of surfaces is nothing but ritual.

Yes it is a thing.

[Giggles]

An import in work has shown a few small signs lately of tinfoil hattery lately; links in group whatsapp, etc, but he just went full on mental case at lunch time today shouting at us that we were all scared and Bill Gates and some event 201 invented the virus because creating mask divisions is easier than creating a new war. It all ended with him squaring up to me for calling him a crackpot. It's made the day more interesting at least :D

[Yevrah]

I'd love to meet one of those "they're controlling us/it's Bill Gates" nutters. My first question would be, why?

The government already control us and Bill Gates already has enough money to level countries if he wanted.

[Giggles]

The same fella also is certain all lockdowns will be completely over by next week because the WHO have said "they're not ideal".

[phonics]

1315739311116029956

Found Taz' burner account.

[Pepe]

Yes it is a thing.

If you are the kind of person that constantly licks their hands and pokes their fingers in their nose, then maybe. Otherwise, it really is a non-issue. Just wash your fucking hands, which you should be doing, pandemic or not.

[Offshore Toon]

An import in work has shown a few small signs lately of tinfoil hattery lately; links in group whatsapp, etc, but he just went full on mental case at lunch time today shouting at us that we were all scared and Bill Gates and some event 201 invented the virus because creating mask divisions is easier than creating a new war. It all ended with him squaring up to me for calling him a crackpot. It's made the day more interesting at least :D
Has 2010 Kiko time-travelled? What a scrap.

[Kikó]

1306517527560937472?s=20

#justsaying

[niko_cee]

Not sure what kind of pubs Nick Pettigrew's (almost certainly not) been frequenting.

[Don]

What a don (ignoring the strange droopy boobs).

[Spikey M]

My first Driving Instructor was like that (sans Rubik's Cube). I paid for 10 hours up front too.

10 hours on how Cancer isn't real, planes spray mind controlling chemicals, etc. Genuinely contemplated deliberately crashing the car a few times.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Open the clubs.

[Pepe]

Tell me more about these fruit machines.

[Manc]

Daniel Craig preparing for his next role. Accent is a little heavy imo.

[phonics]

Tell me more about these fruit machines.
Slot machines with some extra buttons.

[7om]

People like him are the reason I frequent r/conspiracy. You just love to see the depths of insanity people are stooping to.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You select various options, insert coins and then it drops you out a piece of fruit according to your stated criteria. The other day I got something absolutely equidistant between a grapefruit and a pineapple.

[Pepe]

Slot machines with some extra buttons.

That give you fruit?


You select various options, insert coins and then it drops you out a piece of fruit according to your stated criteria. The other day I got something absolutely equidistant between a grapefruit and a pineapple.

Instead of picking whatever fruit you like?

Bunch of weirdos.

[Ian]

Don't listen to their nonsense, Pepe.

It's a machine made of fruit. They smell good but they're not very resilient when they've been booted a few times by a drunken pubgoer.

[Spikey M]

That give you fruit?



Instead of picking whatever fruit you like?

Bunch of weirdos.

If you win the jackpot it's fruit salads all round and feel like a king for the night. Enjoy your chicken wings though.

[Pepe]

And people laugh at Lewis ordering milk. :harold:

[Ian]

That's what Queenslander was talking about months ago in this thread when he said he was in the pub having a pint and felt like a king.

He'd just won big and it was fruit salads for all the lads.

[Lofty]

An import in work has shown a few small signs lately of tinfoil hattery lately; links in group whatsapp, etc, but he just went full on mental case at lunch time today shouting at us that we were all scared and Bill Gates and some event 201 invented the virus because creating mask divisions is easier than creating a new war. It all ended with him squaring up to me for calling him a crackpot. It's made the day more interesting at least :D

Fucking amazing :D he would've been lolled out of the building at our spot halfway through his rant.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Have you never seen the scenes in UK TV shows where there's a pub scene and someone will always be at the bar munching on a plate of kiwi? It's one of the cornerstones of our national drinking culture.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The very first time you win a mango :drool:

[Pepe]

As if you can grow Kiwi over there. It's probably all shit apples.

EDIT: Which makes me realize that I don't think that I have ever eaten kiwi.

What's everyone's favorite fruit?

[Baz]

Welcome to the club, Lancashire.

Big round of applause for Lofty.

[Spikey M]

And people laugh at Lewis ordering milk. :harold:

Atleast we're trying to do something about the obesity epidemic. What are your mob doing about it?

[Pepe]

Atleast we're trying to do something about the obesity epidemic. What are your mob doing about it?

Mate, college students over here are dying due to "food insecurity." We need to feed them more, not less.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

As if you can grow Kiwi over there. It's probably all shit apples.

EDIT: Which makes me realize that I don't think that I have ever eaten kiwi.

What's everyone's favorite fruit?
Only up North. Down in the South we have money to import foreign fruits.

[Pepe]

Only up North. Down in the South we have money to import foreign fruits.

Typical colonizer mentality.

[Spikey M]

Mate, college students over here are dying due to "food insecurity." We need to feed them more, not less.

Could you not speak to the Dean about getting some communal Fruit Machines?

[Pepe]

Could you not speak to the Dean about getting some communal Fruit Machines?

I might have to.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's more about mental health than obesity. When I turned 18 I put a pound in and got a lychee the size of a cantaloupe. You can't put a price on that sort of boost to your self-esteem.

[Don]

If you don't eat kiwi like an apple, gtfoh. (Obvs if you peel an apple, also gtfoh.)

[Pepe]

It's more about mental health than obesity. When I turned 18 I put a pound in and got a lychee the size of a cantaloupe. You can't put a price on that sort of boost to your self-esteem.

You might be onto something:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4940663/

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You really are an animal.

Edit: Out the way Pepe.

[Spikey M]

If you don't eat kiwi like an apple, gtfoh. (Obvs if you peel an apple, also gtfoh.)

This is worse than Igors arse chewing.