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Whitty says he does expect a further surge in the autumn and winter.
That is because the winter is a good time for respiratory illnesses, he says. It would be “very surprising” if winter did not favour the virus.
How big the problems will be is uncertain, he says.
He says the winter could be “quite a difficult one” of the NHS, although not as bad as last winter.
:D
US is opening up, Israelis are free to kick Arab children to death without a mask but we've got these dried out vaginas still beating their drums.
That's not that surprising. It seems to spread easier in the winter. "Surge" doesn't necessarily mean we will be the same as last Christmas.
Get in the freezer and set a bit, you soft shite.
Shindig
18-06-2021, 08:09 AM
I do wonder if it could flip. The news from the studies about the vaccinated seems to think they do wind up with less viral load. Could the virus become low in enough in the population that it just kind of slinks away? We were almost there with the Kent.
And saying winter will be difficult for the NHS is kinda daft. It always is.
Spikey M
18-06-2021, 08:09 AM
That's not that surprising. It seems to spread easier in the winter. "Surge" doesn't necessarily mean we will be the same as last Christmas.
The vaccines must be shit then? We should be well past the herd immunity tipping point by winter.
The vaccines must be shit then? We should be well past the herd immunity tipping point by winter.
A surge of cases doesn't equal a surge of hospitalisations. Depends what his actual words were.
Spikey M
18-06-2021, 09:07 AM
But if there's herd immunity there shouldn't be a serge of cases. Maybe the odd freak occurrence and isolated outbreaks amongst groups of unvaccinated people (like with Measles), but outbreaks capable of putting pressure on the NHS should be long gone by the winter. If they aren't, then something isn't right.
The vaccines doesn't stop transmission so it can still spread. It does reduce it but doesn't remove it.
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/mounting-evidence-suggests-covid-vaccines-do-reduce-transmission-how-does-work#:~:text=It%20found%20immunisation%20with%20ei ther,people%20who%20weren't%20vaccinated.
t found immunisation with either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine reduced the chance of onward virus transmission by 40-60%. This means that if someone became infected after being vaccinated, they were only around half as likely to pass their infection on to others compared to infected people who weren’t vaccinated.
Yevrah
18-06-2021, 09:15 AM
But the point still stands, if we’re still talking about transmission in a context significantly more serious than the common cold come winter, something will have gone very wrong.
-james-
19-06-2021, 04:47 PM
A mate has tested positive. I saw him indoors on Sunday and Monday and he started getting symptoms on Tuesday/Wednesday. He did a test every day thereafter but only returned a positive yesterday.
I've done a couple lateral flows and I'm all clear, I think 2 of 10 or so who have done tests since being in contact with him have come back positive.
What's the deal, am I still expected to do ten days isolation from when I saw him? The government website is fairly unclear.
Spikey M
19-06-2021, 04:54 PM
10 days isolation from when you had contact. I'm pretty sure that's unchanged.
Shindig
19-06-2021, 05:14 PM
200 cases at Durham Uni in the last week. What a time to be alive.
A mate has tested positive. I saw him indoors on Sunday and Monday and he started getting symptoms on Tuesday/Wednesday. He did a test every day thereafter but only returned a positive yesterday.
I've done a couple lateral flows and I'm all clear, I think 2 of 10 or so who have done tests since being in contact with him have come back positive.
What's the deal, am I still expected to do ten days isolation from when I saw him? The government website is fairly unclear.Lateral flow tests are the biggest waste of time and money in our lifetime. You may as well ask a stranger in passing to guess your name and if they get it right, you've got Covid.
Lofty
19-06-2021, 10:35 PM
Agreed. Wife said some lad at her spot has tested positive for covid but out of interest took a lateral flow test whilst isolating and tested negative :moop:
Spikey M
19-06-2021, 10:44 PM
Stop taking tests you cunts. It's here. It's staying. The vulnerable are covered. Crack on.
I was in a meeting the other day and the resident 'here are the latest figures' boffin shared a Power BI thingy showing the [massive] increase in rates in the local region. Someone asked 'how many of these are asymptomatic under 18s though? Since hospital rates aren't increasing in-line with the positive tests' to which he nervously fumbled over words resembling not having that particular data and then switched his camera off.
-james-
19-06-2021, 11:17 PM
Stop taking tests you cunts. It's here. It's staying. The vulnerable are covered. Crack on.
It takes two minutes. My life is basically back to normal and I'd rather not be in lockdown again.
-james-
19-06-2021, 11:18 PM
Lateral flow tests are the biggest waste of time and money in our lifetime. You may as well ask a stranger in passing to guess your name and if they get it right, you've got Covid.
They do seem a bit crap. You're seemingly only meant to go for a PCR if you have symptoms, which is a bit odd considering LFDs are apparently least accurate against low viral loads.
Spikey M
20-06-2021, 08:34 AM
Brazil have just hit 500,000 deaths and still only have 15% of adults vaccinated. It's almost certainly the rich ones too, rather than the people in the Favellas where I imagine it's doing it's damage. Daily deaths have been over 1500 since March.
Are they still using the shitty Chinese jab too?
They’re still going to be better at football than us for the foreseeable.
Spikey M
20-06-2021, 09:11 AM
Well, that's the main thing.
Magic
20-06-2021, 02:42 PM
People don't get old or fat enough in the Favellas to be vulnerable, you racist cunt.
It's going to be the fat, rich ones. :drool:
Spikey M
20-06-2021, 03:09 PM
People don't get old or fat enough in the Favellas to be vulnerable, you racist cunt.
It's going to be the fat, rich ones. :drool:
This virus loves cramped living conditions. And malnutrition.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2BZ132
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/21/flu-could-be-a-bigger-problem-than-covid-in-uk-this-winter
Worrying stuff, I'm all for Freedom Day but I think close it back down after a week to help protect everything and everyone. Also, guys, make sure you get your flu jab and post some selfies on IG whilst you do.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 10:53 AM
Another thing that is seriously beginning to annoy me about the SCIENCE is the utter impunity with which these people can forecast doom seemingly without ever having to suggest a solution.
Flu's going to be a problem you say?
"Yes, without a doubt"
Oh, ok. Any solution?
"Decisions need to be made soon".
Brilliant.
Jimmy Floyd
21-06-2021, 10:59 AM
That's exactly why you need politicians who actually make their own decisions, rather than 'following the science/data', which by its very nature is indecisive.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 11:14 AM
Completely and we've rarely ever done that, yet seemingly refuse to learn it's what we should be doing.
Instead, every rent-a-gob two bit arse hole is allowed to spread their proclamations of doom throughout any media outlet that will have them, which is every single one.
I'm all for an informed public, but this is not helpful and I suggest we're reaching a stage where it's breaking the country. I had a full week out of the house for work last week, in our great capital, and it was so eye opening in terms of what a shit-fest this all is and how the route back to 'normal' life is miles away.
Boydy
21-06-2021, 01:23 PM
Eye-opening in what way?
Not having a dig, genuinely curious. I'm still wfh.
You have to book a table if you want a pint.
Jimmy Floyd
21-06-2021, 01:34 PM
The thing I hate is the lack of spontaneity. Any activity involving a business/third party has to be pre-planned to the nth degree, they want you to do a 'symptom self-assessment' before you leave the house (lol if people actually do this), an abundance of caution for caution's sake is now the default in all things. I can't stand it. I'm not exactly Jeffrey Bernard but it makes me ill to think about people not being able to go places and do stuff.
Spikey M
21-06-2021, 01:48 PM
We were saying the exact same thing when we were on holiday. All spontaneity is gone. Everything has to be booked and planned well ahead of time, and it doesn't half lead to alot of aimless hanging around. You can't just get up and go.
I think it might be what bothers me most about all this shit. It was almost better when everything was shut.
I have actually walked into quite a number of pubs and restaurants without a booking tbf.
Spikey M
21-06-2021, 02:18 PM
On our last day we saw the restaurant was empty, so we chanced our arm to see if we could have some breakfast in there. We had to go on their website and book a table. The closest slot being 15 minutes away. Then stand and wait. Outside an empty - and open - restaurant for our slot.
I appreciate that's not directly because of the Covid rules, but this shit didn't happen 2 years ago.
Lewis
21-06-2021, 02:25 PM
I have actually walked into quite a number of pubs and restaurants without a booking tbf.
Yeah but these lot are nobodies.
You should get the premium non-plebby covid package like me and Lewis.
I have actually walked into quite a number of pubs and restaurants without a booking tbf.
This.
Yev is just being as dramatic as ever.
The people who think we're already pretty much back to normal truly hurt my soul.
Waffdon
21-06-2021, 04:13 PM
I haven’t booked in anywhere other than if I’m going out for tea in a restaurant which I would always book anyway. Some places I’ve tried to book online don’t even let you as they’re sick of folk not turning up and having empty restaurants so fully scrapped it
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 04:24 PM
Right, where do I start.
I guess the first thing to say is that I've only been working from home because I've been forced to. I hate it, I'd much rather be in an office. On the occasion I've been working away from home since last March I've always been happy to do it, but we're probably looking at about 10 days total out of however many I've actually worked over the last 15 months. In my personal life as well I've been happy to go out and do things and have not once thought I don't want to do that because of Covid (it probably helps that I don't move in Taz's circles so haven't really had the chance to do anything that would have put me hugely at risk, let alone anything properly against the rules).
I say this because I feel it's important to recognise where everyone is with this. You have the Jim's of the world who've never been working from home and I'd say they're the most well adjusted to the situation, but for the rest of us it's varying degrees of shock when you see what life's like (when you're exposed to it for a sustained period of time and not just out for a drink or dinner). I'd say I'm at the good end of that - I don't think the world is a plague pit outside of my front door, for example, but I'd imagine there are millions upon millions of people (possibly into the tens of) who do and nothing you see when you're exposed to outside life does anything to assuage that fear. Quite the opposite in fact.
For a start (and this is a bit of an aside to the above but..), almost EVERYWHERE seems to be struggling with staff numbers. From shops to restaurants, if it isn't a family run business it literally felt like we'd actually been to war and x% of the population didn't make it back. Now I don't know if this is because there are the same number of staff and a lot of them are faffing elsewhere rather than doing what they would have pre-pandemic (being useful to customers), but whatever they are doing and whatever the reason, that situation didn't exist two years ago. Pandemic 1 Life 0.
Then there's the clusterfuck of where you can and can't go in a building, even when you're on your own. I don't blame businesses for this as they're for the most part doing their best to follow the rules, but the consistency is all over the shop. One-way systems in some places, as you were in others, markings that have long since perished on the floor, markings that haven't perished but make no sense. I appreciate those who have had limited exposure to this/have been out enough since it started would think what the fuck is he moaning about? But trust me, having spent six days straight away from the comfort of my "go anywhere, do anything I like" house, it was an utter fucking headache. Pandemic 2 Life 0
Hotels. Utterly broken. Particularly those that rely on trade from people who aren't guests. In the one I was staying in (no flex intended, but it cost enough to be about as good as you could expect), the mix of low to non-existent natural light, windows that don't open, wearing a mask everywhere other than in your room or while eating and drinking and the COVID police on the entrance constantly asking you to check in with the app turned what should have been "you stayed where? Lucky bastard" into "Fuck, that sounds shit". Pandemic 3 Life 0
Booking EVERYTHING. Two issues with this. Firstly it completely ruins spontaneity (a hugely undervalued part of being human) and secondly it makes it a ball ache to get into a lot of places if you either haven't booked (in a largely futile effort to be spontaneous) or haven't booked before someone else has beaten you to it because they thought they might like to go there. Seriously, this must be happening on an industrial scale as the number of places that wouldn't let any of us in despite having ample space was ludicrous. Pandemic 4 Life 0
Table Service. When done correctly this is just better, but so few places can manage to get it right. Dodgy apps that don't remember card details, drinks that take an age to arrive or arrive incorrectly. I've had more crap experiences than good ones and that goes for since pubs started doing this last July. But... I think the principal is a good one, so let's be fair and give that to life. Pandemic 4 Life 1
Masks. Dreadful things. Again, I've clearly been spoilt in one sense from working from home for so long, but having to constantly put these things on and remember where I'd put the fucker in the first place was a constant low level annoyance. I thought I understood the "they're fine" argument, but when you're wearing it a lot, as I was for six days straight it becomes quite different. Pandemic 5 Life 1
The nonsense rules. I can't really complain too much about this one as they were never going to get them right, it's an impossible task. But again, live entirely within them for six days straight and it really hammers home what a joke they are. Highlights include:
-Spending six days with every member of an 18 strong team (never seeing more than six at once, but being exposed to all of them) and being shouted at in the hotel bar for joining a table that already had six of them on it.
-Being told that I absolutely had to stay sat down at a table I was at in a garden while wanting to smoke. I chose not to smoke, but had I been an arse I'd have done so and given the others on the table more cancer instead of giving a perfectly empty space in the outside area no cancer.
-Leaving a bar in Chinatown to be approached by a bloke trying to get us into his strip club for private dances. I said to him surely that can't be legal, but was told it is as long as the women keep their underwear on. I mean, I don't even...
I was generous with table service so Pandemic 6 Life 1
Now in isolation each of these things are fine, but put them all together and it's just a monumental headache, which let's be realistic we're not close to losing. Even then you could say don't be a spoilt twat, loads of people have it far worse than you and they do. But we didn't two years ago and that's the point. Even once we have binned all of this off we've then got millions upon millions of people who'll be released into the environment who actively want things to be kept like this.
We need to keep listening to the SCIENCE but stop being led by it, set a clear roadmap with conditions that if achieved means we stick to it and bin this shit off when they are. The disease is a serious one, but nowhere serious enough to still be behaving like this with a vaccine driven through a huge proportion of the population and nearly all of the vulnerable part of it. We then need a government led effort to educate people that it really isn't that bad (for the vast majority of us) and a concerted effort to get everyone out while behaving as such. It was a hard task to get people indoors, but it's going to be a monumental one to get the ones who've been scared to death back out again and behaving normally.
If we don't life is going to take far longer than it should to return to normal and in the back of my mind I can't shake the thought of what life will be like if a pandemic that could genuinely be described as 'deadly' rocked up. I hope I'm dead by the time that happens.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 04:25 PM
The people who think we're already pretty much back to normal truly hurt my soul.
Honestly, having lived this 'normal' for six days, they're either brainwashed or haven't left the house much beyond their local.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 05:08 PM
This.
Yev is just being as dramatic as ever.
I'd take that accusation if I didn't have a history for consistently being far more right than wrong on the subject. But feel free to go back to the 'nothing to see' comments of page 1 if it makes you feel better.
Shindig
21-06-2021, 05:15 PM
I went into four pubs last night without booking anything.
Lofty
21-06-2021, 05:25 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57322352
Not sure if this was posted already.
phonics
21-06-2021, 05:26 PM
He looks like Samadini
Proper Gammon stuff from Yev.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 06:30 PM
Proper Gammon stuff from Yev.
Great feedback. Next time I need some input I'll know where to go.
I would say the lack of casual staff is probably down to BREXIT.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 06:32 PM
I went into four pubs last night without booking anything.
Depends what you're doing. Proper locals tend to be fine without booking in my experience, but they generally have more space (particularly outside) and they're also the ones that are far less slavish to the rules.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 06:35 PM
I would say the lack of casual staff is probably down to BREXIT.
It would fit, but I also wonder what impact giving people 'free' money with no fear of being evicted/they live with their parents anyway has. Not saying we shouldn't have done that if that is the case, we absolutely should have, but it wouldn't have happened without this pandemic we've supposedly beaten away with normality.
It's an employer's choice to have people on furlough. Hospitality is still not normal so I'm not sure blaming furlough is fair.
Shindig
21-06-2021, 06:49 PM
The bigger problem would be trying to operate a covid secure kitchen. A fully staffed kitchen is busy and in tight quarters. The staff might not be coming forward but it's more likely they have to operate a skeleton crew to avoid the wrath of an EHO.
Boydy
21-06-2021, 06:50 PM
Maybe pubs and that aren't putting so many staff on because they want to make their profit margin as large as possible given they lost out on lots of business after the past year?
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 07:41 PM
It's an employer's choice to have people on furlough. Hospitality is still not normal so I'm not sure blaming furlough is fair.
I'm not blaming furlough per se, as I said it absolutely had to happen and it was the right thing to do. But a possible consequence of it could be that people who work jobs casually now don't need to work those jobs for a bit as they were on 80% with essentially no outgoings for months.
Again, they needed to be, but it's a consequence of the pandemic and one example (of many) how we're far from back to normal.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 07:43 PM
The bigger problem would be trying to operate a covid secure kitchen. A fully staffed kitchen is busy and in tight quarters. The staff might not be coming forward but it's more likely they have to operate a skeleton crew to avoid the wrath of an EHO.
Again, fair point, but that isn't normal.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 07:44 PM
Maybe pubs and that aren't putting so many staff on because they want to make their profit margin as large as possible given they lost out on lots of business after the past year?
The cynic in me does wonder whether some industries have realised that they can make customers wait x amount longer with y fewer staff and generate z more profit. It's all bollocks short term thinking though, much like getting everyone in an office to work from home forevermore.
I'm not blaming furlough per se, as I said it absolutely had to happen and it was the right thing to do. But a possible consequence of it could be that people who work jobs casually now don't need to work those jobs for a bit as they were on 80% with essentially no outgoings for months.
Again, they needed to be, but it's a consequence of the pandemic and one example (of many) how we're far from back to normal.
Don't get me wrong, it's definitely not how it was. I'm hoping we do not again push the open up date because I think this time it will cause unrest.
Jimmy Floyd
21-06-2021, 08:13 PM
It won't cause (immediate) unrest. What it will cause is deep social problems that unfold over years. It needs to just end and if people die then people die (they won't, really).
I've already noticed people being quite meltdown-prone.
Spikey M
21-06-2021, 08:21 PM
The only rules that are being followed now (widely) are the ones you can't get around. Masks in shops, all the restaurant nonsense, etc.
Distancing between friends and family is long dead. That's where the cases are coming from. Letting people pack out pubs will give cases a further kick, but it's not like we're actually going from distancing to no distancing.
Yevrah
21-06-2021, 08:43 PM
As a population, we're utterly broken. They can do what they want from here and I'm genuinely not sure what it would take for actual civil unrest to occur.
Lewis
21-06-2021, 08:47 PM
The only thing that would provoke 'unrest' would be incomes drying up.
Raoul Duke
21-06-2021, 08:48 PM
Or a substantial drop in house prices
Andrew
22-06-2021, 10:41 AM
A huge amount of the population are utterly broken and terrified they have had 18 months of the BBC, Sky etc terrifying them, there's no coming back for them.
The Welsh government have just announced we are heading into a third wave today it's utterly ridiculous.
I live in the 3rd biggest city in Wales and I still can't take my kids swimming, see a doctor face to face or get anywhere near a dentist..
It's utterly depressing.
Magic
22-06-2021, 10:48 AM
Same here mate.
Jimmy Floyd
22-06-2021, 11:01 AM
The bit I don't understand is that all modelling shows that hospitalisations per case are at 4% and falling (was 9-10% in January), deaths are still crawling along in single figures per day if that, rate of case growth is tiny compared to the last two waves, and yet the political decision-makers seem completely oblivious to this and want to pretend that a third wave is equal to the first and second waves - it just isn't.
It's like the vaccines haven't happened.
Spikey M
22-06-2021, 11:06 AM
Some of us have been able to walk into a pub without booking. Everything is back to normal lads.
I've been able to go to the dentist as well.
Yevrah
22-06-2021, 11:21 AM
The bit I don't understand is that all modelling shows that hospitalisations per case are at 4% and falling (was 9-10% in January), deaths are still crawling along in single figures per day if that, rate of case growth is tiny compared to the last two waves, and yet the political decision-makers seem completely oblivious to this and want to pretend that a third wave is equal to the first and second waves - it just isn't.
It's like the vaccines haven't happened.
As I said ages ago, the biggest anti-vaxxers in this country and by quite some margin, are now those in the church of SCIENCE. It's batshit bonkers.
Jimmy Floyd
22-06-2021, 11:30 AM
More tales from the world of amateur cricket, we've just been told by our county board that from now on (not from a year ago when we restarted playing, but from now on) if a player tests positive then his team's next match is automatically cancelled, and the other 10 from the last match are not allowed to go on a cricket ground for any reason for 10 days - this due to '...what we've seen around reduced adherence to social distancing'. Obviously the county cricket board are not arbiters of the law, so all this is just a 'recommendation' (bold, caps, underlined).
Absolutely normal stuff here, totally normal.
I've been able to go to the dentist as well.
Same. And I’ve been swimming.
More tales from the world of amateur cricket, we've just been told by our county board that from now on (not from a year ago when we restarted playing, but from now on) if a player tests positive then his team's next match is automatically cancelled, and the other 10 from the last match are not allowed to go on a cricket ground for any reason for 10 days - this due to '...what we've seen around reduced adherence to social distancing'. Obviously the county cricket board are not arbiters of the law, so all this is just a 'recommendation' (bold, caps, underlined).
Absolutely normal stuff here, totally normal.
That's absolutely crazy.
Jimmy Floyd
22-06-2021, 11:34 AM
I would predict (unless it collapses on its arse first) it will happen in football as well when you restart - it's the sport's governing body trying to cover its arse and not be blamed for spread.
I'm currently trying to devise the most effective method of cover-up should it happen to my club. I'm done with listening to these pen pushers.
Spikey M
22-06-2021, 11:40 AM
I would be encouraging "don't ask, don't tell". If you get Covid, stay at home but keep your mouth shut.
Get the fuck back into school, office and pub and spread that shit on like the flu it is and always has been.
I live in the 3rd biggest city in Wales and I still can't take my kids swimming, see a doctor face to face or get anywhere near a dentist.
You never could. It's Wales.
niko_cee
22-06-2021, 01:27 PM
I'm fully magnetised now.
Kids swimming later. Dentist tomorrow. Might try and go into a crowded pub tonight to watch the football. :p
I would predict (unless it collapses on its arse first) it will happen in football as well when you restart - it's the sport's governing body trying to cover its arse and not be blamed for spread.
I'm currently trying to devise the most effective method of cover-up should it happen to my club. I'm done with listening to these pen pushers.
We finished our football season and it didn't happen but I don't think we had anyone go down with Covid.
The biggest annoyance was the lack of changing facilities.
Andrew
22-06-2021, 03:02 PM
You never could. It's Wales.
Harsh, but true.
You can book swimming lessons, but it's to dangerous to just go in there randomly plus the changing rooms are still closed because they are not Covid secure so even the pre booked classes have you either leaving the building with a towel round you or changing pool side.
It's all just madness.
Shindig
22-06-2021, 05:33 PM
27 deaths today. North West and Yorkshire making up half of them. The North East hasn't registered a death in nearly a fortnight. It's clear where the vaccine uptake has been royally bottled.
One positive case in Y9 at my school yesterday, 42 kids sent to self-isolate. Two more positives put us up to over 80 - amazed the whole bubble hasn't burst.
Jimmy Floyd
23-06-2021, 04:58 PM
The isolation rules will have to go when we open up. It's just nonsensical.
Spikey M
23-06-2021, 05:01 PM
They can keep "if you've got Covid, stay at home" (and introduce the same for the Flu tbh) but that should be the end of it.
Yevrah
23-06-2021, 09:12 PM
The isolation rules will have to go when we open up. It's just nonsensical.
On that note, why on Earth are two England players isolating?
Spikey M
23-06-2021, 09:14 PM
Because they were in close contact with Wee Willy Covidheed. Luckily, every Scotland player kept their distance and at no point did any of them go within 2 metres of him.
niko_cee
23-06-2021, 09:15 PM
Because unlike the entire Scotland team (Petr Cech's observations noted), including a manager who basically kissed Gilmour full on the lips after the game, they were the only 'close contacts' of young Billy.
Those numbers today :happycry:
Jimmy Floyd
23-06-2021, 09:22 PM
It's all kids testing positive. Hold your nerve.
Spikey M
23-06-2021, 09:31 PM
2 of my colleagues have their kids off school after cases in their year.
Summer Holidays soon. That gives it 6 weeks to fuck off a bit and for more of us to get double jabbed.
It's over. We're good.
Andrew
23-06-2021, 10:34 PM
So we are new in Delta plus territory!!
An even more deadly and far more transmissible variant.
If this keeps up Covid will reach a point where it will be so contagious some sap in India will sneeze and a grandmother from Cardiff will catch it..
Queenslander
24-06-2021, 12:39 AM
#BREAKING: A second person linked to Brisbane's Portuguese Family Centre has contracted COVID-19.
The 62-year-old man, who was at the Ellen Grove restaurant in Brisbane's south-west on Saturday, told the ABC he returned a positive test result on Wednesday night.
ℹ The Queensland Covid-19 health press conference will be live streamed from our Facebook page this morning at 10:00 AM.
Send them to Manus Island for hard labor!
Waffdon
24-06-2021, 09:54 AM
The real pandemic at the minute is hay fever. Why is it much worse when you’re in your own flat. Fuck me, this is grim
Jimmy Floyd
24-06-2021, 09:58 AM
Piriteze is your friend.
It's not hayfever, that's the Epsilon variant. Lock yourself in for 14 days, batter yourself round the head with a wooden spoon and stick your penis in a jar of mustard.
Yevrah
24-06-2021, 10:11 AM
The struggle with the hay has been very real of late, but after 40 years on this planet I've finally managed to not rub my eyes when it hits and it's amazing how much that helps.
Waffdon
24-06-2021, 10:20 AM
Piriteze is your friend.
Will go buy some, ty ty.
It needs to make up its mind. One minute runny eyes and nose and next nose and throat/glands are drier than a nuns twat which suddenly makes breathing more of an effort
Spikey M
24-06-2021, 10:20 AM
Donned by a flower. :happycry:
Waffdon
24-06-2021, 10:26 AM
You love me.
-james-
24-06-2021, 01:22 PM
Over the counter stuff stopped working for me so I went to my GP and got prescribed Fexofenadine. Absolutely life-changing stuff. I think they're quite stingy with handing it out these days but it's worth pushing for it if the normal stuff isn't cutting it.
wullie
24-06-2021, 01:31 PM
I'd try the various pills each summer but was told this year to try the Beconase spray. The sky has never looked so blue, the birds have never sounded so sweet etc
Andrew
24-06-2021, 04:51 PM
Millions of people dying from Covid every 52 seconds and we have people here on this very board being wet flannels about a blocked nose.
Priorities people.
Waffdon
24-06-2021, 05:07 PM
I got my vaccine yesterday as well. Great combination
Boydy
24-06-2021, 05:24 PM
Millions of people dying from Covid every 52 seconds and we have people here on this very board being wet flannels about a blocked nose.
Priorities people.
You alright mate?
Shindig
24-06-2021, 05:28 PM
I'm still surprised we're not jacking up the vaccine numbers. All the talk about rushing to the finish line and then toddling along with 400k a day. Maybe we go apeshit once the first jabs are all done?
Arsenal stadium is doing an open event for the next few days trying to give as many the first jab as possible. I imagine there are quite a few examples of trying to ramp up the remaining unvaccinated.
I'm still a few days away from my second shot of az.
Footage of Wayne Lineker on the news, Formentera on the Guardian, erections all-round. Let's see where we are in August, hopefully won't need vaccinations and Europe hasn't crumbled to the Delta tsunami (surely they will, no?).
niko_cee
24-06-2021, 10:21 PM
We'll be on Lambda by then and the whole world will have gone all Half-Life 2.
Shindig
24-06-2021, 10:24 PM
I eagerly await the BBC articles. "What is a resonance cascade and how did it get here?"
Queenslander
25-06-2021, 01:16 AM
Sydney are at 61 cases a growing. I won't lose any sleep over the eastern suburbs copping harsh lockdown untill it is sorted. Roflmao
2 Canterbury Bulldogs players were exposed and the NSW team might be stuck in Kingscliff for origin.
niko_cee
25-06-2021, 06:20 AM
Banning them from the state is probably Queensland's only chance of drawing out the series any longer.
Spikey M
25-06-2021, 07:26 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57583733
*NHS Overwhelmed Klaxon*
Yevrah
25-06-2021, 08:05 AM
Who’d have thought that a sustained effort to scare the shit out of people would lead to them being scared about, well…, everything.
Yevrah
25-06-2021, 08:10 AM
I’ve been avoiding the news for a bit, where are we now with operation “let’s drag Coronavirus out for as long as possible for the lols”?
Queenslander
25-06-2021, 08:11 AM
Banning them from the state is probably Queensland's only chance of drawing out the series any longer.
Fingers crossed
Shindig
25-06-2021, 08:17 AM
I’ve been avoiding the news for a bit, where are we now with operation “let’s drag Coronavirus out for as long as possible for the lols”?
The human race is already doing a great job at that, Harv.
Masks being reintroduced into the Zionist land :happycry:
Shindig
26-06-2021, 06:41 AM
Finally did my first test. The control line's kicked in so I haven't fucked it. It's already been said but swabbing is unpleasant.
Waffdon
26-06-2021, 05:18 PM
Hancock resigned. That’s a shame.
Magic
26-06-2021, 05:23 PM
Defo House of Cards stuff.
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 06:05 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57583733
*NHS Overwhelmed Klaxon*
It's genuinely horrendous. We had to close to new admissions for a large part of today because we're completely full. I've no idea what happens to the ones who turn up during that time.
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 06:07 PM
Also the number of people who phone a fucking ambulance because their two and a half year old who is literally running around and causing a riot has a bit of a temperature is beyond belief.
niko_cee
26-06-2021, 07:16 PM
What is the reason behind that though? Is it GPs simply refusing to see anyone?
Magic
26-06-2021, 07:24 PM
What is the reason behind that though? Is it GPs simply refusing to see anyone?
Because 'professionals' like RL were going around telling everyone their kids were going to die of PIMS.
phonics
26-06-2021, 08:00 PM
Why is the Hancock thing being framed by the press about 'Breaking Social Distancing Guidelines'
He was cheating on his wife, with his own staff member, at work, on camera.
Magic
26-06-2021, 08:05 PM
Why is the Hancock thing being framed by the press about 'Breaking Social Distancing Guidelines'
He was cheating on his wife, with his own staff member, at work, on camera.
Because we weren't being fined for cheating on our wives.
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 08:06 PM
What is the reason behind that though? Is it GPs simply refusing to see anyone?
The normal cough/cold viruses are doing the rounds with a vengeance because they haven't had chance to be going round during lockdown. I wonder if a lot of these kids have never had many fevers because of lockdown so now they're getting them for the first time parents aren't used to it and are freaking out.
Yes there's a lot of GPs not seeing people, or just fobbing people off/giving antibiotics for whatever over the phone.
It's really bad. Our service is not coping. We handed over 12 kids to be seen to the night time, some of whom had been waiting 6-7 hours which is absolutely unheard of. And yes like I said we had to close earlier because we were full. Same happened last weekend when I was on.
Management aren't listening as usual. Until a kid dies because we're being forced to work in such an unsafe way, then they'll all be there pointing fingers and throwing people under the bus. This kind of situation is how Bawa Garba happened.
Shindig
26-06-2021, 08:09 PM
Sajid Javid looks like a colour-corrected Ray Wilkins.
Lewis
26-06-2021, 08:10 PM
Why is the Hancock thing being framed by the press about 'Breaking Social Distancing Guidelines'
He was cheating on his wife, with his own staff member, at work, on camera.
How is the media meant to take the moral high ground on that sort of thing (and would they even consider it the moral high ground)?
phonics
26-06-2021, 08:11 PM
How is the media meant to take the moral high ground on that sort of thing (and would they even consider it the moral high ground)?
The same way they have since the media existed?
Spikey M
26-06-2021, 08:11 PM
Why is the Hancock thing being framed by the press about 'Breaking Social Distancing Guidelines'
He was cheating on his wife, with his own staff member, at work, on camera.
Because he was the Head of the NHS and has spent the last year and a half saying stuff like this:
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Plus, a politician having such a vanilla affair is no news these days.
Lewis
26-06-2021, 08:15 PM
The same way they have since the media existed?
The latter then. They don't actually care about the affair bit.
Lewis
26-06-2021, 08:17 PM
This (https://order-order.com/2021/06/25/ashworth-reluctant-to-condemn-hancock-over-affair/) was pretty lol. There must be loads of it about.
Spikey M
26-06-2021, 08:18 PM
The latter then. They don't actually care about the affair bit.
Nobody cares about any of it really, surely? The bloke is just an absolute idiot that needed rid of however possible.
Genuinely baffling how many stars must have to align for a cretin of that magnitude to end up "in charge" of the National Health Service during a fucking pandemic.
Magic
26-06-2021, 08:21 PM
The normal cough/cold viruses are doing the rounds with a vengeance because they haven't had chance to be going round during lockdown. I wonder if a lot of these kids have never had many fevers because of lockdown so now they're getting them for the first time parents aren't used to it and are freaking out.
Yes there's a lot of GPs not seeing people, or just fobbing people off/giving antibiotics for whatever over the phone.
It's really bad. Our service is not coping. We handed over 12 kids to be seen to the night time, some of whom had been waiting 6-7 hours which is absolutely unheard of. And yes like I said we had to close earlier because we were full. Same happened last weekend when I was on.
Management aren't listening as usual. Until a kid dies because we're being forced to work in such an unsafe way, then they'll all be there pointing fingers and throwing people under the bus. This kind of situation is how Bawa Garba happened.
Do you not see how you've (health care) also played a part in this boy cried wolfism?
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 08:28 PM
All people have been told throughout all of this is that kids don't particularly get sick with covid. I doubt you've even heard of PIMSTS other than from my posts in this thread. None of these parents think their kids have covid, 99% of them haven't even thought to get them tested.
So no I don't think it's anything to do with it. Idk what your problem is or why you're so desperate to GOTCHA me. Sometimes things are genuinely just shit and this is just shit. Something is going to go badly wrong because the workload is seriously unsafe. I don't blame the parents for coming to hospital because their kid is the most precious thing in their whole world and they are worried (other than the patently ridiculous few who call ambulances for kids who they can then barely get them into because they want to carry on running round the garden).
Magic
26-06-2021, 08:30 PM
No that's not what people have been told at all, and it's shameful you try and shirk responsibility now the real problems are kicking in.
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 08:31 PM
111 are a fucking nightmare too, they call an ambulance for kids at the drop of a hat.
Lewis
26-06-2021, 08:32 PM
They should have smuggled appointment charges through all the other shit when they had the chance.
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 08:33 PM
No that's not what people have been told at all, and it's shameful you try and shirk responsibility now the real problems are kicking in.
What? Yes it is. Show me something saying parents should be seriously worryied about their kids having covid.
I also have exactly as much control over public health messaging or what the chair of some medical council says as you do.
Spikey M
26-06-2021, 08:33 PM
(other than the patently ridiculous few who call ambulances for kids who they can then barely get them into because they want to carry on running round the garden).
In fairness, kids are just pricks sometimes. When my daughter was about 2 she had sickness and diarrhoea for more than a week. Her bits were red raw and she started refusing food and drink.
We phoned 111 and headed off down the hospital, where - because it was new and novel - she started running around as if she was absolutely fine. :moop:
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 08:41 PM
In fairness, kids are just pricks sometimes. When my daughter was about 2 she had sickness and diarrhoea for more than a week. Her bits were red raw and she started refusing food and drink.
We phoned 111 and headed off down the hospital, where - because it was new and novel - she started running around as if she was absolutely fine. :moop:
This is a well recognised phenomenon and I am the first to reassure parents who think they've "wasted our time".
But you see plenty who tell you the kid is literally fine, playing a their normal self but they had a temperature of 38.2 so they phoned an ambulance.
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 08:45 PM
No that's not what people have been told at all, and it's shameful you try and shirk responsibility now the real problems are kicking in.
And again, none of these parents are worried about covid. They haven't thought to get their kids tested for it and are usually surprised when you even suggest it as a possibility
Magic
26-06-2021, 08:53 PM
Yes just a coincidence...
randomlegend
26-06-2021, 09:35 PM
It's like arguing with a magic 8 ball.
Sir Andy Mahowry
26-06-2021, 09:45 PM
Yet you keep picking it back up.
Spikey M
26-06-2021, 10:34 PM
Comparing magic to a thing that's been picked up and shaken. :nono:
Yevrah
26-06-2021, 10:49 PM
I'm sort of with Magic on this one. 'We' have spent the last 15 months scaring the shit out of people and GP's have shut up shop, so what the fuck were people expecting would happen?
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 01:40 AM
Sydney is up to 110 cases. :lol:
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 03:20 AM
https://fb.watch/6nFXZjGUeZ/
Darwin of all places is panic buying.
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 05:39 AM
Ahhh shit the Alpha and the delta are both circulating around Brisbane.
Fark
Spikey M
27-06-2021, 06:23 AM
Ahhh shit the Alpha and the delta are both circulating around Brisbane.
Fark
How is your vaccine roll out going these days?
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 06:47 AM
Disgraceful. Most boomers refuse to get AZ after the media smear campaign.
7,326,320 out of 25.3 million
COVID-19 vaccine doses have been given to Australians
Qld 515,991 out of 5 million.
Spikey M
27-06-2021, 06:58 AM
Welp.
This could get pretty nasty if you don't get it under control. Are people still abiding by lockdown rules?
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 07:07 AM
No lockdown in Brisbane. 52k at Suncorp tonight with mandatory masks except when seated (lol) and mandatory QR sign in.
Considering the amount of alcohol and nose beers going around during and after the game if we don't have a million cases in 2 weeks I'll be convinced that us bogans are immune to covid.
Also every pub in the inner city will be chockers with said boozers.
Spikey M
27-06-2021, 07:32 AM
Seems like a very strange approach with such low numbers. Especially considering the success you've had up until now. The cynic/tin foil hat in me wonders if they need some deaths to drive the vaccine program?
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 07:43 AM
Yeah I agree a big purge of people in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney would wake the country up especially Scummo as his seat is smack bang on the beach.
Our luck has to run out this winter.
niko_cee
27-06-2021, 07:44 AM
The problem for Australia is that they are way too culturally aligned with the US (an anti-commonwealth by-product, not entirely of their own making) so they have a high proportion of absolute fucking idiots in their population.
That they appear to be squandering their geographical advantage in all this is both quite funny, and also quite disappointing.
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 07:47 AM
Our Boomers are easily worse than yours. Completely brainwashed by 10 years of Sky News Australia and talk back radio.
niko_cee
27-06-2021, 07:48 AM
Also I see Barnaby Joyce is back in the corridors of power (or was he never really out of them?). :D/:face:
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 07:50 AM
He knocked up a staffer left his wife stepped back from the Nationals leadership now he is back as their leader meaning he is Prime Minister untill Scummo is back.
What a country.
He is on some nonsense women's taskforce as well. :D
"the morrison govt has a new women's taskforce member: barnaby joyce" https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/re-joyce-the-morrison-government-has-a-new-womens-taskforce-member-barnaby-joyce/
niko_cee
27-06-2021, 07:51 AM
Our Boomers are easily worse than yours. Completely brainwashed by 10 years of Sky News Australia and talk back radio.
To be honest most Australians I know are probably 'boomers' and they're all pretty sound, if you can get past the casual racism etc.
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 07:59 AM
Boomers that have moved to Port Douglas to retire arent the ones I'm talking about.
Queenslander
27-06-2021, 08:38 AM
Tasmania has closed its border to the rest of Australia. Jeeezzzz
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/27/sports-fans-warned-you-will-be-guinea-pigs-at-summer-events
https://fournews-assets-prod-s3-ew1-nmprod.s3.amazonaws.com/media/2020/03/ZDd73P7K9YC_image-1-1920x1080.png
Shut the fuck up, you paedo.
Yevrah
27-06-2021, 10:35 AM
What the actual fuck is he doing?
Spikey M
27-06-2021, 01:01 PM
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Walked straight in. Didn't have to book a table. :happycry:
Great location imo. Quick TK Maxx run if the temperature dropped.
TBH, that wouldn't surprise me as something hipster in normal times.
Queenslander
28-06-2021, 01:20 AM
Roflmao
https://i.ibb.co/c1Y9vLm/Screenshot-20210628-111343.png (https://ibb.co/471LfdQ)
Mandatory masks for South East QLD back tomorrow.
Mandatory border declaration to be filled out online before entering QLD.
Waffdon
28-06-2021, 09:16 AM
1408920478425792516?s=19
Walked straight in. Didn't have to book a table. :happycry:
You still not over the fact you had to book somewhere to eat, old man?
Spikey M
28-06-2021, 09:54 AM
You still not over my jizz rolling down your mums face?
Waffdon
28-06-2021, 10:44 AM
Is that what made her top herself? Sheeesh.
Lewis
28-06-2021, 11:43 AM
Who said it was before that?
Waffdon
28-06-2021, 12:35 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b952bed977cdc673a9c88568ef2ab75 0f815f064cb1f&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g
Queenslander
29-06-2021, 01:50 AM
3 day lockdown from 6pm untill Friday.
Uhoh spaghettio
And Scummo has all of a sudden come out and said anyone under 40 can now get the AZ. I would be vaccinated by now if that dog cunt didn't put the ban up in the first place.
Edit: Some old luv was in the community (Brisbane) for 10 days while working at a hospital with the delta. Obviously not vaccinated...
4% of the population are fully vaccinated.
The Nationals are finally calling out their coalition mates at Federal and State level.
Lofty
29-06-2021, 07:54 AM
People harassing Chris Whitty in public on the daily now it seems.
Yevrah
29-06-2021, 09:09 AM
That’s pure scum behaviour, but maybe the unrest is building…
Jimmy Floyd
29-06-2021, 09:12 AM
I hope we just unlock on 19 July come what may and if people die then people die. I'm just bored of this now.
Magic
29-06-2021, 09:17 AM
Chris Shitty being murdered on his own doorstep by alt-righters ahoy.
Also lol at the people wishing JC was in charge for this fiasco. Could you imagine...
Yevrah
29-06-2021, 09:20 AM
I hope we just unlock on 19 July come what may and if people die then people die. I'm just bored of this now.
Deaths aren’t going up, we’ve vaccinated everybody particularly vulnerable to it. It’s just massively unnecessary to still be where we are and the goalposts have been moved to keep us there.
So yeah, we should be absolutely back to complete normal within our own borders and lolling at the Australians.
Jimmy Floyd
29-06-2021, 09:53 AM
Deaths aren’t going up, we’ve vaccinated everybody particularly vulnerable to it. It’s just massively unnecessary to still be where we are and the goalposts have been moved to keep us there.
So yeah, we should be absolutely back to complete normal within our own borders and lolling at the Australians.
In America the attitude is very much 'vaccination = end of bullshit restrictions' with no questions asked, so I'm hoping that that will osmose over here as quickly and effectively as their race relations bullshit seems to have done.
Jimmy Floyd
29-06-2021, 11:54 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57640550
This article, and the entire tone underlying it, is absolutely absurd.
Yevrah
29-06-2021, 12:22 PM
At last count there were 250 people on mechanical ventilators and 1,534 in hospital.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
We've had under 50 deaths a day for two and a half months and around 20 or lower for two months.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Vaccines work. It's done and Andrew Marr's shitty little article sums that up perfectly.
I had a high temperature, muscle ache, the shakes, a bad headache and flu-like cold symptoms.
Unpleasant.
I couldn't smell anything - not aftershave, not coffee, nothing.
Scary.
I kept starting books and giving them up and creeping back to bed again for yet another sleep.
I wasn't even much interested in the news.
Life changing even.
One day, I would feel better, and the next worse again.
I began to worry about "long Covid".
Terrifying. He must be in serious trouble now, right?
Anyway, for me, all ended happily. I recovered quite quickly and, it seems, completely.
Oh.
By the time my quarantine ended, I felt fine.
Well yes, because you'd been fucking double jabbed.
In America the attitude is very much 'vaccination = end of bullshit restrictions' with no questions asked
True. I am 100% back to normal, as most people are. I still see some idiots wearing masks outdoors while completely alone on campus though. :harold:
I haven't seen my neighbour's chin in over a year. He mows the lawn wearing a mask.
Yevrah
29-06-2021, 09:57 PM
Nearly 400,000 kids sent home from school to isolate last week. :lol:
We have run completely insane.
Yevrah
29-06-2021, 09:59 PM
And deaths nowhere to be seen on BBC's 'review of the numbers'.
Jimmy Floyd
29-06-2021, 09:59 PM
Stuff starting to leak out about the impending end of isolation for double-vaxxed people - I think we might finally be seeing some sense.
Queenslander
30-06-2021, 01:49 AM
More LOLs for everyone.
. COVID live updates: Queensland's Chief Health Officer 'doesn't want under-40s to get AstraZeneca', Palaszczuk demands PM explain who authorised change in advice
Queensland only has access to 6 days of the pfyzer jab.
Spikey M
30-06-2021, 05:23 AM
Nearly 400,000 kids sent home from school to isolate last week. :lol:
We have run completely insane.
I know loads of people with kids off due to this. The daughter of my Wife's Auntie had to isolate, went in for 3 days then had to isolate again. It's because the kids are normally asymptomatic, so they isolate for whatever is left of the 10 days but can easily still have Covid when they go back. It's bollocks.
Now there's this Athlete that's trained for years to compete and she can't because someone she's been vaguely near has a virus?
These rules make no sense anymore. The vaccines work and more than 80% of the population have antibodies one way or another. Herd immunity achieved. Fucking end this shit.
Magic
30-06-2021, 06:51 AM
Have never and will never self isolate. Reps to my homies still not doing testing or track/trace too. :cool:
Shindig
30-06-2021, 08:35 AM
Proud of doing nothing, like a true weekend dad.
We're going back to the office from next week. Some of the double-jabbed brigade are up in arms. 2,169.6 case rate. Looking at the map is great because you see where the student accommodation is concentrated. Newcastle's rates have took off but they're all concentrated around Jesmond, all Durham's students live right in the city, etc. Same goes for Manchester.
Spikey M
30-06-2021, 08:37 AM
Proud of doing nothing, like a true weekend dad.
:lol:
I think we've had our first corona death in here.
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Operation OPEN THE CLUBS is live.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 03:42 PM
I don't care about either, but thank God sense is finally being seen.
Jimmy Floyd
30-06-2021, 03:55 PM
They've finally got to 'cases don't matter' thinking, took them long enough.
Now to enjoy the death rattle for Independent SAGE.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 04:20 PM
BBC are still trying to push that wank.
Front and centre "26,000 new cases" and then on the actual live feed. "But the number of deaths - at 14 - and hospitalisation rates are lower compared with that wave".
Lower? Try 96% lower.
Still raging they delayed it a month, not gonna lie; but at least I can dance at the wedding related to the botched stag do.
Spikey M
30-06-2021, 05:10 PM
I don't think the rules changing will gift you dancing ability.
They've finally got to 'cases don't matter' thinking, took them long enough.
Now to enjoy the death rattle for Independent SAGE.
Independent sage have moved the goalposts again recently. It’s not cases, hospitalisations or even deaths. Long covid is the buzzword now. Wankers to a man.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 06:31 PM
We should never ever give SCIENCE this much power or spotlight again.
They're basically baked into society now too, so I've no idea how you get rid of them or their fear spreading.
Magic
30-06-2021, 06:39 PM
We should never ever give SCIENCE this much power or spotlight again.
They're basically baked into society now too, so I've no idea how you get rid of them or their fear spreading.
They'll write it off as people being stupid, like RL did a few pages ago, and misinterpreting their 'advice'.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 06:45 PM
There is a stench of patronising directed at anyone who dares question them. I remember when I first started banging on about SCIENCE and everyone assumed I was some sort of flat-earther.
Sadly I was all to well aware of what happens when you give people (any people) power and limelight. They fucking love it and never want that train to stop.
Give your head a wobble ffs. You're talking absolute bollocks.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 06:52 PM
They're also liars as well.
We've covered this, but I'm back on their website and I'm going to inflict my misery on you all too. From their six point plan (yes, 6) for dealing with the last variant (in May):
https://www.independentsage.org/six-point-plan-for-dealing-with-the-b-1-617-2-variant/
Accordingly, the SAGE modelling group (SPI-M) updated their projections for the roadmap outlining the opening up of society and the economy. If a new variant that is 30-40% more transmissible than B.1.1.7 becomes dominant in the UK, we could see a wave that is as bad as the January surge – even if vaccines remain as effective against B.1.617.2 as they are against B.1.1.7. If B.1.617.2 is even mildly resistant to the vaccines as well as being more transmissible, proceeding with the roadmap could result in a new wave of infections considerably worse than was seen in January.
A wave as bad as January with vaccines if it's more transmissible and worse than January if it's even mildly resistant? It's just bare faced lies.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 06:54 PM
Give your head a wobble ffs. You're talking absolute bollocks.
I mean I'm not and the evidence of their continued anti-vaxxer wrong-headed proclamations of doom back me up on that. These people are a disgrace to actual science.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 06:57 PM
Look at the report categories on here too:
https://www.independentsage.org/
Which one absolutely dwarfs all of the others? :D
Lewis
30-06-2021, 06:57 PM
We don't need this spilling over into the TTH Final Meet.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 07:00 PM
It won't it's my birthday, nothing but peace and love from me. Well, as long as a member of 'indie_SAGE' (have they really spent money on branding that? Rofl, and if you will, copter) doesn't rock up.
Shindig
30-06-2021, 07:12 PM
Fuck that noise. You've never been happy, Yev. You can't even get the hot tub just right.
Happy birthday Harvey Yevrah.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 07:40 PM
I think I'm just misunderstood.
Back to Sage, these arse holes are using SCIENCE to inflict sustained misery on people, the antithesis of what they themselves say they're here to do.
We also believe it the responsibility of scientists and those with specialist knowledge to engage with the public and policy makers, in order to ensure that science benefits all of society.
And riding on the coat-tails of an originally well meaning movement to push science above nonsense at that.
Yevrah
30-06-2021, 07:40 PM
Happy birthday Harvey Yevrah.
Cheers Kik's.
If you can make it so Sir Gareth Southgate makes Roberto Martinez cry, please do.
Surely the former Middleborough manager can beat the former Wigan manager?
Shindig
30-06-2021, 07:52 PM
FA Cup winning manager. Let's give him due respect. Actually, that'd give a Belgium v Italy match some spice.
EDIT: OH, THEY'RE PLAYING FRIDAY! :youpi:
Boydy
30-06-2021, 09:42 PM
Why is everyone not wearing a mask in the supermarket always a massive fucking chav.
Jimmy Floyd
30-06-2021, 10:00 PM
The new vaccine coverage map on the dashboard is quite interesting.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/vaccinations
Plots very well onto the Brexit voting map, as everything does.
Offshore Toon
30-06-2021, 10:08 PM
Why is everyone not wearing a mask in the supermarket always a massive fucking chav.
I've been in London for a couple of weeks and it's about 50/50, increasing to absolutely nobody giving a shit past 10pm. If I'm going to get it it'll be whilst I'm here, but if I test negative when flying back to Jersey then I think we can go ahead and confirm this as fake.
Boydy
30-06-2021, 11:33 PM
The new vaccine coverage map on the dashboard is quite interesting.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/vaccinations
Plots very well onto the Brexit voting map, as everything does.
Isn't that probably just because younger adults are more likely to live in urban areas?
Spikey M
01-07-2021, 04:55 AM
Why is everyone not wearing a mask in the supermarket always a massive fucking chav.
Everyone just looks massive to you, lil man.
Jimmy Floyd
01-07-2021, 06:32 AM
Isn't that probably just because younger adults are more likely to live in urban areas?
Yes, I'd have thought so.
Shindig
01-07-2021, 07:57 AM
I've noticed the over 60's infections are starting to pick up. There's the big test, folks.
There's a lass on my facebook that's panicking over the Pfizer jab. She had her first the other day and she's been complaining of heart palpitations. Her doctor's blamed her thyroid but naturally, a bunch of twitchy housewives on facebook know better.
Had my second AZ snake oil yesterday and so far, other than a bit of drowsiness and pain in the arm, been okay. Last time it hit me the second night so lets see if it does again.
Boydy
01-07-2021, 08:09 AM
Yes, I'd have thought so.
I thought you were getting at something else.
Jimmy Floyd
01-07-2021, 08:15 AM
Well I think that also explains Brexit to a large degree, so not really. It's just neat how literally everything seems to map onto it.
It certainly makes it easier for everybody to keep a tally of their prejudices.
Lofty
01-07-2021, 09:48 AM
Why is everyone not wearing a mask in the supermarket always a massive fucking chav.
There is definitely a bit of the standard 'what ya gonna do about it' attitude on show with some of them, like the wankers who start blaring music out of their phone on public transport.
Spikey M
01-07-2021, 12:08 PM
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Yevrah
01-07-2021, 12:15 PM
Good. It's what SCIENCE and our useless leader deserve for this continued nonsense.
The insistence on capitalising SCIENCE every time is making you seem more like 'some sort of flat-earther' more than any of your actual opinions, Yev, FYI.
Yevrah
01-07-2021, 12:23 PM
Oh I know.
Spikey M
01-07-2021, 12:28 PM
That's just what they want you to think.
Did you know the clinical guidance (from the manufacturers) says the wait time between the 1st and 2nd jab for the AstraZeneca vaccine should be at least 5 weeks, and only 3 weeks for Pfizer?
But they said 12 weeks initially and have now lowered it to 8, because they didn’t have enough.
Makes you think. WHAT ELSE ARE THEY LYING ABOUT.
The lateral flow tests have been consistently shown as shite but the GOVERNMENT bought shit loads of them. The US aren't bothering with them. https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1514
Yevrah
01-07-2021, 04:16 PM
Hahahahahaha
The PM says he is hoping England will return to as close to the pre-pandemic status quo as possible on 19 July.
The SCIENCE wankers are still winning.
Shindig
01-07-2021, 05:14 PM
Next week's return to the office is cancelled. 5 people turned up positive. :D
500+ positive tests for the postage stamp that is Durham City this week.
Queenslander
01-07-2021, 10:33 PM
Lockdown in Brisbane extended for 24 hours... I reckon we will end up getting the full 2 weeks as the delta is clearly more contagious.
It has also come out that Scummo has signed off non nationals most who weren't vaccinated to come and go as they please. They make up roughly 20% of all inbound travellers.
Our borders were never closed.
Queenslander
02-07-2021, 02:12 AM
223 cases in NSW and they are saying it will continue to go up.
Lol
Jimmy Floyd
02-07-2021, 06:18 AM
If Australia is still having lockdowns after we're out, it'll be a pretty good effort on their part.
niko_cee
02-07-2021, 06:21 AM
There's not going to be much 'if' about it. They've pissed a year away doing nothing bar experimenting with the best things to put on people's heads as they move them from one quarantine location to another.
What's the New Zealand vaccination situation?
Spikey M
02-07-2021, 07:15 AM
223 cases in NSW and they are saying it will continue to go up.
Lol
There's no stopping it once cases are at that level. 223 will be the tip of the iceberg.
Mental that they've let this happen at this stage of the game.
Queenslander
02-07-2021, 07:30 AM
There's no stopping it once cases are at that level. 223 will be the tip of the iceberg.
Mental that they've let this happen at this stage of the game.
Liberal Premier refuses to lockdown the whole state.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/eu-vaccine-passport-excludes-5m-britons-given-indian-made-astrazeneca/
TLDR - Some AZ are made in India and not approved by the EMA. AZ not approved by the FDA so you can't visit the states. Lol.
Magic
02-07-2021, 08:46 AM
We're doing something like 10-15x more testing than our EU counterparts lol. Bedwetting Brits.
Lol at you bemoaning bedwetting.
Yevrah
02-07-2021, 08:56 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/eu-vaccine-passport-excludes-5m-britons-given-indian-made-astrazeneca/
TLDR - Some AZ are made in India and not approved by the EMA. AZ not approved by the FDA so you can't visit the states. Lol.
Never have I checked my vaccine card this quickly before. Phew!
Jimmy Floyd
02-07-2021, 09:29 AM
Me and my Pfizer pfriends are basically the global elite now. I've already booked a 2-week all inclusive in Davos.
Pfizer crew representing.
Weren't there reports of the pensioners refusing Pfizer vaccine and saying they'll "wait for the English one" early on? lol.
Just ensure your sixth boosters are also compliant.
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