Coronavirus Death Thread

[Dquincy]

Nah, I walk cos it's so close, and can get a sausage roll on the way home. I have had a lot of tests though. :rosebud:

Greggs?

[randomlegend]

2 vaccines 0 tests crew.

[Spikey M]

I thought doctors and nurses were being regularly tested?

[Dquincy]

Only real doctors are tested.

[Spikey M]

It looks like we've cracked the mystery of how it's being spread in hospitals, anyway Yevrah.

[Queenslander]

The Dr of Children?

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56210665

Just shift Hadrians Wall a few hundred miles south and open the clubs.

[Baz]

Greggs?

Waterfields.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm old enough to remember about 5 weeks ago when they were using that dark colour for 800 cases per 100k.

[Magic]

Yes. Science continues to do further investigation to better understanding; sometimes that results in understanding changing over time.

Depending on agendas and trying to stay relevant.

[Shindig]

I'm old enough to remember about 5 weeks ago when they were using that dark colour for 800 cases per 100k.

That's what I was thinking as well. The map they use on the coronavirus staging sticks to that metric and its much easier to spot the genuine surges.

[Magic]

Lol unreal people are actually concerned about 'spotting surges'.

[Dquincy]

Not enough people in the UK have been vaccinated to stop the cases rising. It will inevitably happen.

[Shindig]

Lol unreal people are actually concerned about 'spotting surges'.

Not concerned, just curious. I'm not shitting bricks over 20-odd new cases in some old colliery town. The numbers will go up as we ease restrictions. The only number that matters is the hospital numbers. The main contributors to that should all be pricked up.

[Kikó]

I'm old enough to remember about 5 weeks ago when they were using that dark colour for 800 cases per 100k.

It's pretty disingenuous to move scales without clearly pointing out the change (similar to the recent Spectator sales v the rest using different scales of comparison). The BBC again, failing in their duty to report news properly.

[Magic]

Not concerned, just curious. I'm not shitting bricks over 20-odd new cases in some old colliery town. The numbers will go up as we ease restrictions. The only number that matters is the hospital numbers. The main contributors to that should all be pricked up.

No numbers matter, mate. Just enjoy life.

[Spikey M]

An RAF fly by and Sir Captain Major Admiral Tom's funeral today. :harold:

He went for a walk for fuck sake.

[Shindig]

Did Vera Lynn get this kind of pomp and circumstance?

[Lewis]

1365619717722034176

:happycry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Carefully chosen photo to go with it.

[Magic]

:D

I love it. Clap for carers. :harold:

[Shindig]

I've never seen a thin care worker.

[Magic]

Or a remotely intelligent one.

[Kikó]

I've never seen a thin care worker.

Impact of shift work and irregular eating and sleeping times.

[Shindig]

Aye, I'd hate to work that kind of job. Having their schedule changed up on a whim and still having to cram in clients in 15 minute windows sounds like a proper meat grinder. And from the client side, they have providers switched on them constantly.

[Spikey M]

It is the worst job in the world and is mostly done by people who have no other choice. I would rather have a bullet in my head than a stay in a care home.

[Baz]

I've never seen a thin care worker.:lol:

I’ve never seen one who doesn’t smoke either.

[John Arne]

Chalk up another C-victory to Vietnam. Zero cases yesterday, 68,000 in quarantine (home, hotel or Gov faculties).

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56227171

This is the global equivalent of someone in a relationship saying something horribly unfair in the heat of an argument, calming down and knowing they were wrong, but being too stubborn to say sorry.

What a fucking shambles.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Wasn't the original argument due to a shortage of it / delay in the production? Now all the supply in France is sitting around in fridges unused. A wonderful effort by all concerned.

Brexit's unique ability to turn people mental strikes again.

[niko_cee]

"quasi-ineffective" is definitely up there for me as phrase of the year.

What a twat.

[7om]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56227171

This is the global equivalent of someone in a relationship saying something horribly unfair in the heat of an argument, calming down and knowing they were wrong, but being too stubborn to say sorry.

What a fucking shambles.

Absolutely right.

A truly pathetic piece of point scoring by all these idiots. They’re so busy seething at us that they’ve forgot to get on with protecting their people. They should be ashamed.

[Shindig]

They appear to still be vaccinating the shots three weeks apart. 2% of the population done. The Germans sit at 4%. And you know half the French won't take the fucking thing.

By virtue of holding our second shot back, we're protecting our people for longer, probably.

[Yevrah]

Better together, eh?

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/28/pfizer-vaccine-less-effective-obesity-study

:happycry:

Real talk though, with the restrictions soon to be behind us, we can soon begin to hail COVID for all the good work it's done. Painful death to millions of fatties being up there.

[Alex]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/28/pfizer-vaccine-less-effective-obesity-study

:happycry:

Real talk though, with the restrictions soon to be behind us, we can soon begin to hail COVID for all the good work it's done. Painful death to millions of fatties being up there.

I know I'm being a massively pedantic bastard here but "people with obesity" is strange wording to me. It feel like it should really say "people who are obese". They didn't catch it off someone.

[Don]

"Selfish fucking retards" is what we should be pushing for.

[Alex]

I wouldn't particularly be against that either.

[Lewis]

Unlucky Randrew.

[Bam]

"Selfish fucking retards" is what we should be pushing for.


Go get a fucking haircut you tramp, then criticize people.

[Don]

Bam, lad, you're getting on, your sleep has been disrupted by the little ones, your missus has picked up bakery during lockdown because her IG needs content and the David Llloyd you overpay for is shut, that's plenty of fair excuses. Just make sure you pay some PT for 6-12 months from this summer onwards and you can avoid being a permanent second/third-class citizen.

[Bam]

Bam, lad, you're getting on, your sleep has been disrupted by the little ones, your missus has picked up bakery during lockdown because her IG needs content and the David Llloyd you overpay for is shut, that's plenty of fair excuses. Just make sure you pay some PT for 6-12 months from this summer onwards and you can avoid being a permanent second/third-class citizen.

:D such a cunt.

[Spikey M]

Good news guys, Bam's alive.

[Bam]

o/\.

[Bam]

Good news guys, Bam's alive.

How did Tottingham do last week? :youpi:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D such a cunt.

All true though tbf.

[Bam]

All true though tbf.

Yeah. What you saying then?

[Spikey M]

How did Tottingham do last week? :youpi:

Only messing Bam, how you getting on?

[Bam]

Only messing Bam, how you getting on?

All good my yg. Not stop with work and shit!

Not seen the farther in law for time, but he has had the jab so hopefully we can do a visit soon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah. What you saying then?

I'm saying that he's right.

I thought that was clear from my first post.

[John Arne]

:face:

https://gyazo.com/c21c175225a42618c61eb15c7564c753.jpeg

[Queenslander]

That is spot on for us.

[John Arne]

Where are you lot at with vaccinations? Started yet?

[Queenslander]

Where are you lot at with vaccinations? Started yet?

I dont follow other States. QLD is under way not sure about total numbers but Im due mid march at this stage.

Have you been jabbed?

[John Arne]

I dont follow other States. QLD is under way not sure about total numbers but Im due mid march at this stage.

Have you been jabbed?

Nah, Vietnam is bottom of the pile for vaccines, and foreigners are bottom of that pile. I suspect towards the end of the year, unless any of the local vaccines go into production anytime soon.

[Queenslander]

That is shit. I wonder how many Australian born Vietnamese will duck back for it?

There must be a fair few of them?

New Zealand bought enough for the Pacific we should be trying to help our South East Asian neighbours.

[John Arne]

That is shit. I wonder how many Australian born Vietnamese will duck back for it?

There must be a fair few of them?

New Zealand bought enough for the Pacific we should be trying to help our South East Asian neighbours.

I think once/if Vietnam ends mandatory quarantine, I think a lot of folk will do exactly that.

[Magic]

Here we go with 'country' VARIANT to continue to scare people.

[Kikó]

I think you need to a class on how viruses work.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Media have gone miles over the top on this variant. They seem to have entered a covid-industrial complex whereby anything that doesn't include the word 'worrying' or 'concerning' isn't a story.

[Yevrah]

It's so fucking dumb. And if variants are actually a genuine concern that could lead to more lockdowns then we need to close the borders now, not piss about with an ever changing and insufficient 'red list'.

We can't have another lockdown, remember. Or does that only apply to stop me going to the pub?

[Shindig]

I think it's more down to this being the only story they've been able to report on for a solid year. It's the big failure of 24 hour news networks. So there's all these "Human interest" stories or opinion pieces about, "What this might mean.

There's no more BLM protests to cover, no explosions in Tripoli. Just this. And they've always dealt in extremes. Moderation is not news.

[Spikey M]

As far as I'm aware the Brazilian one, MIGHT be able to get around the vaccine and cause a mild infection, right?

If so... then, well... so?

[Magic]

See you at virus class, lads.

[Yevrah]

Is the 30% increase in death cited here the same as the 'extra 3 in a thousand' shit that came out of that shambolic press conference?


For the UK variant there is some research suggesting it may be associated with a 30% higher risk of death. The evidence is not strong and the data is still uncertain though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55659820

If it is I might actually have to complain.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yes, it is that. 10 in 1,000 to 13 in 1,000 death risk in a man in his 60s, I believe it was.

You can see why they expressed it that way and not 1% to 1.3%.

[Don]

Where were you with your Point of View emails in March 2020 before we pissed away 16 months of our lives? :cry:

[Spikey M]

I am apparently unaware of the 4 months between February and March.

[Don]

You're unaware of a lot of things, you melt.

[Magic]

I definitely felt slaying powers were impacted between Feb and March due to the growing anxiety so I agree with Taz ref there being 4 months between the two.

[Spikey M]

16 months is actually an underestimate of how long the last year has been if anything.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Jesus Christ, only just clocked this tweet and its contents:

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https://i.ibb.co/x1w2B6T/semple.jpg (https://ibb.co/6HGyTFC)

[Spikey M]

SAGE have literally said that outdoor gatherings are basically no risk at all, for crying out loud.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Dunno, I'm still trying to find a 3D shark in his shirt.

[Spikey M]

:D

[Yevrah]

The media and seemingly some scientific focus of where this thing spreads has been fucked all along. Care homes, hospitals, idiots seeing gran in her house has largely been ignored, in favour of lambasting pubs, restaurants and people doing heinous things outdoors.

[Spikey M]

RL never having had a test has completely fucked my brain. If that's common place then I have no idea why we've bothered "protecting our NHS" for the last 12 months.

Edit: Sorry, 16 months.

[Kikó]

I'm really sick of eggs on the TV telling us that standing in a park is akin to licking all the old dears in the olds folks home after visiting Brazil for the Juninho-variant. Fuck off with the nonsense.

[7om]

The bald bloke looks like he's desperate to ruin everyone elses life because he doesn't have one.

[Spikey M]

I can't imagine a world where he doesn't have David Mitchell's voice. Just the voice.

[Lofty]

As a career fatty I have been booked in for my jab Wednesday dinner time. Might get a footlong subway after just to really boil Taz's piss.

[Kikó]

See you at virus class, lads.

*virtual

[Jimmy Floyd]

Today 5,455 cases and 104 deaths. I can almost see those club/sauna doors opening.

[Spikey M]

There was a talking head on Schofield and Willoughby's breakfast show this morning saying "the data is amazing. Everything is plummeting. We've cracked it and I can't see why we're not going back to the old normal from tomorrow", and for the first time in forever she wasn't spoken to like she was a dangerous lunatic.

The tide is changing.

[Magic]

Ah, now we will truly see if the ZERO-COVID brigade have any clout left.

[Spikey M]

They really shouldn't have.

The goal was to stop the NHS from collapsing, which was a partial success and to vaccinate the vulnerable so that we don't risk overwhelming them again.

Job done. New cases are fuck all. Let's get on with it. Anyone moaning is still living in December.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They've somehow managed to back themselves into a corner whereby they desperately need either cases to skyrocket and/or a deadly vaccine-escaping variant to appear.

[Spikey M]

Hence the nicely timed Brazil Variant news. [/tinfoilhat]

[Magic]

I see they've moved from 3 more months to 1 more week.

Truly desperate stuff. They'll never admit they were wrong.

[Spikey M]

What's gone from 3 months to 1 week?

[Magic]

To keep us in lockdown.

[Lofty]

I know of two clowns who have apparently lied saying they work at care homes to blag an early vaccine, sure it's rife.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It also doesn't really matter at this point. Jabs in arms = good.

[Shindig]

Yep. We're jabbing ( ... was a thing of the past) at a much faster rate than the virus has ever reproduced. By sheer numbers, this should be it.

[Spikey M]

How are the hospital numbers looking? I know less are going in, but are they still backed up?

[Shindig]

Hancock says the vaccine's cut hospitalisations by 80% whilst ICU admissions for the over-80s has been in single figures for the past fortnight.

[7om]

I’d agree with Jimmy in that we’re getting very close to the point where anyone getting vaccinated is a good thing. The vast majority of the vulnerable cohort have been done.

[Magic]

Data not dates. Oh that only applies negatively? Ah ok.

[randomlegend]

RL never having had a test has completely fucked my brain. If that's common place then I have no idea why we've bothered "protecting our NHS" for the last 12 months.

Edit: Sorry, 16 months.

There were a couple of weeks before the vaccine started where we could pick up a few months supply of lateral flow tests but then the vaccine took over the place they were giving them out from and as far as I'm aware (bearing in mind I'm a useless retard) they never started giving them out again.

I've never needed a proper test as I've never had symptoms.

[Spikey M]

There were a couple of weeks before the vaccine started where we could pick up a few months supply of lateral flow tests but then the vaccine took over the place they were giving them out from and as far as I'm aware (bearing in mind I'm a useless retard) they never started giving them out again.

I've never needed a proper test as I've never had symptoms.

It just baffles me that regular testing hasn't been in place for the NHS since the start. I'd have expected weekly tests at a minimum.

I mean, how is Giggles needed to take a test so he can deliver parcels but a doctor isn't? (I am aware different country)

[Jimmy Floyd]

Waste of time and resources, as most of the mass testing we will no doubt have to get used to in the coming times will also be.

The one place you're not going to eliminate Covid is in a hospital.

[niko_cee]

Our Matt Hancock (bless him, he's old and didn't really want the job) came out with a belter today which was something along the lines of "please, for god's sake, don't come to hospital if you're ill".

Now, I know what he was getting at, but there is a bit of a fatal flaw with that delivery.

[Dquincy]

Today 5,455 cases and 104 deaths. I can almost see those club/sauna doors opening.

Surely these stats are pretty redundant until we start opening up (to test the effect the vaccine). With lockdown, they will continue to fall.

[Yevrah]

The vaccine's been tested. It works.

[randomlegend]

It just baffles me that regular testing hasn't been in place for the NHS since the start. I'd have expected weekly tests at a minimum.

I mean, how is Giggles needed to take a test so he can deliver parcels but a doctor isn't? (I am aware different country)

I suspect it's because they knew if they tested healthcare staff regularly then the workforce would just fall apart with the number of asymptomatic positives having to isolate. Cynical but probably true.

[Lofty]

Just seen a garden bar build on facebook named 'The Captain Sir Tom'. I'm sure it would've been the greatest accolade of his life had he lived to see it :D

[Dquincy]

The vaccine's been tested. It works.

We'll see, sweetheart.

[Spikey M]

Surely these stats are pretty redundant until we start opening up (to test the effect the vaccine). With lockdown, they will continue to fall.

The cases and deaths are falling at twice the speed of the first wave. It's the vaccine.


I suspect it's because they knew if they tested healthcare staff regularly then the workforce would just fall apart with the number of asymptomatic positives having to isolate. Cynical but probably true.

You're almost certainly right, which is horrific and understandable in equal measure.

[Dquincy]

The cases and deaths are falling at twice the speed of the first wave. It's the vaccine.


Or is it true British grit. The sort that saw us win two world wars.

[Dquincy]

It is exciting seeing a vaccine in effect during a pandemic. Any vaccines I've previously taken have been for viruses that are already relatively under control, which is quite frankly boring.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You've had some serious side effects from those vaccines.

[Spikey M]

Or is it true British grit. The sort that saw us win two world wars.

If any Britishness needs to be factored in it's being "double hard bastards".

[7om]

Or is it true British grit. The sort that saw us win two world wars.

Yeah it’s the vaccines.

[Yevrah]

We'll see, sweetheart.

As Spikey said, we're already seeing it. Love.

[Queenslander]

Hasnt he got a taste for it?



West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has indicated he is considering extending the state's "controlled border" beyond the COVID-19 pandemic in order to slow drug importation.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-02/mark-mcgowan-flags-tougher-border-after-fall-in-meth-imports/13206388

[Jimmy Floyd]

If true British grit is helping it's in terms of our willingness to take the vaccine (see John Arne's chart at the top of page 387). Honestly no idea what Johnny Foreigner is playing at.

[Dquincy]

You've had some serious side effects from those vaccines.

Urgh, as if I'm going to take that poison.

[Magic]

I suspect it's because they knew if they tested healthcare staff regularly then the workforce would just fall apart with the number of asymptomatic positives having to isolate. Cynical but probably true.

I thought it had already fallen apart multiple times...

[randomlegend]

I mean it did, but we don't have the choice to just close.

[Dquincy]

Japan asks China to stop using anal swabs on its citizens

The Japanese government has asked Beijing to stop taking anal swabs from its citizens to test for coronavirus, saying the procedure causes psychological pain.

Beijing has not yet responded and it is not known how many Japanese citizens have been subjected to the procedure.

It comes after some Chinese cities started using the swabs to detect potential COVID-19 infection to limit transmission.

US diplomats in China claimed last month that they had been told to take the tests - but the claim was denied by China's foreign ministry.



We have throat and nose. They have anal and nose (in that order).

[Magic]

I mean it did, but we don't have the choice to just close.

Would you class delaying almost everything as 'closing'?

[Don]

Given the lack of an Islamabad strain and as a sufferer, I do think this is Team Soft Shites' best bet for making everyone shit themselves on a permanent basis. The long-term effects will no doubt be incovered as being very serious in the coming months.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/02/long-covid-uk-children-date-cause-concern-scientists-say

[Jimmy Floyd]

There were some pretty handy numbers the other day showing that the vaccine may reduce long Covid symptoms (early days though).

[Spikey M]

I bet he still won't take it. :happycry:

[Don]

If they demonstrate it's more than simply preventative I'll take it but otherwise, I'll leave it to the more gravitationally gifted individuals, ta.

[Kikó]

We'll see, sweetheart.

We've already seen.

[7om]

We've already seen.

He’s beyond hope.

[7om]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56242617

:harold:

[Boydy]

Why aren't the vaccines we have suitable for children?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I really want to buy our JCVI and MHRA a pint. Fucking nailed everything. How come they could manage it but the Europeans/Americans couldn't? The only thing I can think of is we were willing not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[Spikey M]

They're testing them on kids now, aren't they?

[7om]

Why aren't the vaccines we have suitable for children?

They probably are but there was no inclusion of children in the initial clinical trials. That is very normal. You start on adults 18-60 then escalate up into 65+ and deescalate to adolescents and then children.

For kids it’s a lot to do with ethics. You couldn’t test the jabs on kids first when you don’t know the safety in adults.

[Boydy]

They probably are but there was no inclusion of children in the initial clinical trials. That is very normal. You start on adults 18-60 then escalate up into 65+ and deescalate to adolescents and then children.

For kids it’s a lot to do with ethics. You couldn’t test the jabs on kids first when you don’t know the safety in adults.

Ah, fair enough. Makes sense. Just after posting that I've seen a news story with the head of immunisation at PHE saying they expect them to work, possibly even better than for older people.

[7om]

I really want to buy our JCVI and MHRA a pint. Fucking nailed everything. How come they could manage it but the Europeans/Americans couldn't? The only thing I can think of is we were willing not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

I read an article the other day on the Oxford vaccine going through FDA approval. Apparently they haven’t even submitted for approval because the Americans will only accept data from the US trial, which hasn’t finished yet. They’ve just approved Johnson & Johnson so they’re in no rush.

[Dquincy]

He’s beyond hope.

Please don't hurt my mental health.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-56242549

Magic in the mud.

[randomlegend]

Where he lives.

Homeless.

[Queenslander]

Russian variant has popped up in Brisbane hotel quarantine I had no idea they even had one.

[niko_cee]

Everyone has a variant, but only about 3 countries globally are looking for them.

[Lofty]

Just been jabbed. Off to the pie shop now.

[Queenslander]

Everyone has a variant, but only about 3 countries globally are looking for them.

Yeah Im not bothered one bit.

The UK and Israel kicking goals is enough for me

[Spikey M]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/features/25-terrified-going-restaurants-bars-clubs-reopen/

Almost want to sign up so I can read the rest. :happycry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Allow me to indulge you with some trickle-down economics.


When Boris Johnson announced his roadmap out of lockdown, with pubs and restaurants to open inside from May 17 at the earliest and nightclubs from June 21, many people jumped for joy.

Twitter was a-flutter with memes of the antics people hope to get up to when bars and clubs reopen their doors. My WhatsApp group chat was full of screenshots of the clothes my friends plan to buy to mark their first time going ‘out out’ since March last year.

At first, I was also buzzing with excitement. I can’t wait to have a proper night out, to pester the DJ to play Little Mix, and dance until the lights come on. I want nothing more than to rediscover the secret bars dotted around the capital where I live, and to order a Pornstar Martini.

And, of course, I’m veritably thrilled by the prospect of going to a restaurant and eating a meal with my boyfriend that I did not spend hours preparing (and inevitably burning).

But my initial euphoria has now subsided as I’ve realised that, even if pubs, clubs and restaurants reopen from June, it’s highly unlikely that I, a healthy 25-year-old, will have had the vaccine.

Boris Johnson has said that we're all going to have to learn to live alongside Covid-19. He might be right, but the prospect of sitting cheek by jowl with potential Covid carriers in a restaurant or bar, having self-isolated at home for so long, is frankly terrifying.

Last summer, while my friends were going out to restaurants most nights, I would only tag along if we sat outside in the beer garden. The one time I did accompany them to an indoor bottomless brunch in Balham, I spent the next four days paralysed with fear that my hayfever was, in fact, Covid, and did a test to check (it was negative).

I did eventually lighten up, but since the new Kent variant emerged, along with the uncertainty of how it spreads, I’ve slipped back into panic mode.

On my birthday in November, my boyfriend took me to a fairly empty Pizza Express and I asked to move tables three times to avoid being anywhere near other diners. Even now, my takeaway coffee is duly spritzed with antibac before I take a sip. So I can’t imagine being back inside a restaurant in May; even if it is at half capacity; my friends and I would still be crowded around a table, so I’d still feel at risk.

I seem to be in the minority among people my age, but Counselling Directory member Dee Johnson says she has seen similar concerns in her practice. “I have noticed an increase of anxiety with people processing their feelings about a return to 'normal',” she says. Her clients have expressed feeling nervous about returning to socialising, having been isolated for so long. Others “still fear the virus taking away our freedom again and being back in lockdown,” Johnson says.

Yet many others, like me, are simply terrified at the prospect of catching Covid-19. Hester Grainger, 43, is a mum-of-two who runs a PR agency in Reading. She is nervous about going back to restaurants and bars in June. “I’m torn because I’m really excited. I love going out, I love eating in new places, I love going out for drinks – but I just don’t feel, for me, anything will have changed that is going to make it any more safe to go out in a few months than it is now.”

She feels she probably won’t have been vaccinated by June and fears that others could carry Covid. Even though Grainger has no underlying health conditions, she still worries about catching the virus. “You don’t know how you’re going to react to it,” she says, “and there are perfectly healthy people who have died from Covid or been really, really poorly. I know a few people who have long Covid.”

Yet, like me, Grainger is in the minority of her friends. “The majority are just really excited to be ‘back to normal,’” she says.

I know my friends are counting down the days until we can go out (and by extension, inside) again. It seems I have a choice: either stay at home and be miserable with FOMO, or risk going out.

Having effectively lost a year to the pandemic, a lot of my friends have said they feel like life is passing them by, and I know what they mean; our twenties, after all, are the time to go out and have fun, before bigger responsibilities come our way. And for that reason, despite my trepidation, I probably will return to restaurants and bars when they reopen. I’ll just be the one in the corner lathering on the hand sanitiser.



Her boyfriend must be one of those blokes with no shoulders who wears a cardigan on the beach.

[Dquincy]

Based on her photo, I'd say she's quite looking forward to it.

[Spikey M]

Allow me to indulge you with some trickle-down economics.



Her boyfriend must be one of those blokes with no shoulders who wears a cardigan on the beach.

Cheers.

Asking to move table 3 times and washing her takeaway coffee's :D

What a mong.

[Don]

That is superb. Filtering out the clubs of soft shites like that, my God COVID is the gift that keeps giving :hail:

[Jimmy Floyd]

She's not so scared that she stays at home and makes her own fucking coffee, obvs.

[Shindig]

There is such a thing as being too careful.

[Spikey M]

I guarantee that her boyfriend is a million leagues below her and would support her in genociding his whole family for a tit-out hand-job.

[mugbull]

That is superb. Filtering out the clubs of soft shites like that, my God COVID is the gift that keeps giving :hail:

That's actually hella true. The narcs will all be at home

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I guarantee that her boyfriend is a million leagues below her and would support her in genociding his whole family for a tit-out hand-job.

Good deal.

[Lofty]

My arm hurts, and I feel like I have a mild hangover.

[Lofty]

I guarantee that her boyfriend is a million leagues below her and would support her in genociding his whole family for a tit-out hand-job.

I had a look at her twitter for confirmation but it was too shite to trawl. 50% moans about neighbouring flat noise. One highlight being an admission she tried and failed to write a book in the last lockdown so this time round she is writing a 'fictitious blog' :D

[Kikó]

TBF, my misses is terrified of getting covid and the long variant as it would massively affect her work (sense of taste and smell is pretty important in wine).

I also love cardigans on the beach.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Cardigan only I could support, if you had the body to pull it off. This fella though has a navy cardigan (XS), a skinny white tee and a little brass pendant with her name carved into it. Cheaper than it looks. Black jean shorts with deck shoes, even though he has calves like dental flossers. They got an ice cream each but each paid for their own separately, with coins, and she binned hers before the end as she was worried about the calories. He brought a book and held it up a lot but didn't read it. Spent most of the afternoon brushing the sand off his feet and wondering if she'd mind if he maybe kissed her once.

[Shindig]

And he joins in on Igor's album club call every month. He'll be vegan in a month on her say so.

[Dquincy]

http://news.sky.com/story/obesity-warning-as-report-shows-nine-out-of-10-covid-19-deaths-have-been-in-countries-with-high-rates-of-obesity-12235256

For all you chubsters.

[Spikey M]

My arm hurts, and I feel like I have a mild hangover.

Alright, she's not that fit.

[Baz]

Breaking news - more fat people die than not fat people. :eek:

[Spikey M]

I've heard they're leaving the dead fat people outside takeaways for other fat people to see.

[Ian]

Pictures circulating of Igor mounting one. Not dead though, she just smelled like it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't see how you can do much about obesity on a national level, as Dr Ted Ross seems to want to happen. Ban deep fat fryers? Clap chip shop owners in irons?

People want to eat nice-tasting food and want to sit down and play video games/watch TV, there's no getting around that.

[niko_cee]

I've heard they're leaving the dead fat people outside takeaways for other fat people to see.

:D

Outstanding.

[Don]

I don't see how you can do much about obesity on a national level, as Dr Ted Ross seems to want to happen. Ban deep fat fryers? Clap chip shop owners in irons?

People want to eat nice-tasting food and want to sit down and play video games/watch TV, there's no getting around that.

The human body is not naturally inclined to want to destroy itself, these vermin are conditioned to become the creatures they have become. Education will stop the rot. I also saw this yesterday:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/04/uk-government-may-start-offering-financial-rewards-for-becoming-healthier

Giving pennies to the piggies to pull them out of their mire. It's one hell of a sorry state of affairs.

[Andy]

I don't see how you can do much about obesity on a national level, as Dr Ted Ross seems to want to happen. Ban deep fat fryers? Clap chip shop owners in irons?

People want to eat nice-tasting food and want to sit down and play video games/watch TV, there's no getting around that.

Education is surely the answer rather than the government's plan to subsidise weight watchers and slimming world.

[Manc]

Ban deep fat fryers? Clap chip shop owners in irons?

People want to eat nice-tasting food.

Hmmm.

[Yevrah]

Education is surely the answer rather than the government's plan to subsidise weight watchers and slimming world.

They're not seriously thinking of doing that, are they? Surely they realise the goal of those organisations is for people not to lose weight?

[Magic]

This is why India did so well lol.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hmmm.

When there's a load of pop-up broccoli quiche takeaways I'll be convinced that fried food isn't to the nation's tastes.

[Ian]

They're not seriously thinking of doing that, are they? Surely they realise the goal of those organisations is for people not to lose weight?

The sort of person who needs fat club to lose weight would presumably need it to stay that way as well. The benefit presumably doesn't really come from needing somebody explaining to you that burning more calories than you eat is a good thing but from needing the peer pressure to stop you gorging on pies and cake all week so you don't have to go and tell other human beings you've put on half a stone in 7 days.

That's not to say I think the government should be subsidising it but it's not like they'd be paying to keep people fatter.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's like smoke and drink, isn't it? It's a comfort to people. If you're Sir Boris Johnson or Sir Rishi Sunak with an interesting job and loads of money for a nutrition plan and a Peloton subscription then it's easy to preach. If you work in a call centre bored out of your mind and don't earn enough to go on holiday or do anything else of interest then why wouldn't you enjoy a pie and chips dinner.

[SvN]

Fuck me, I'd love pie and chips for dinner.

[Don]

It's like smoke and drink, isn't it? It's a comfort to people. If you're Sir Boris Johnson or Sir Rishi Sunak with an interesting job and loads of money for a nutrition plan and a Peloton subscription then it's easy to preach. If you work in a call centre bored out of your mind and don't earn enough to go on holiday or do anything else of interest then why wouldn't you enjoy a pie and chips dinner.

Is this really the hill you want to die on?

[Spikey M]

Fuck walking up a hill after pie and chips.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What hill? I just think in a modern service based economy it's almost impossible to curb obesity. Education isn't a solution. We were all told to eat a balanced diet, weren't we?

The only solution is mass lifestyle change / diet change, which requires a huge cultural shift well outside the power of government. I would guess that the likes of Sweden where they have a more outdoorsy lifestyle and eat fish are the lowest obesity rates in Europe.

[Lewis]

1367407911828414466

Cheers old people.

[Dquincy]

Sounds like Jimmy is obese. And he's not changing for nobody.

[Dquincy]

Also "nice food" is quite subjective as to whether that is a greasy burger, or a nice salad. But I get the point that the collective would opt for the first option.

Maybe it does come down to education, like the fella above said.

[Andy]

They're not seriously thinking of doing that, are they? Surely they realise the goal of those organisations is for people not to lose weight?

It's true, look at the link Taz posted earlier. It's utterly ridiculous.

[Jimmy Floyd]

None of you can deal with my hard-hitting realism.

[Pepe]

"Education" is a whole load of bollocks, if you mean one that the government is providing.

[Boydy]

The human body is not naturally inclined to want to destroy itself

I hope you remember that when the clubs reopen.

[Yevrah]

'Education' is a seriously outdated concept, which has completely died over the last 20 years. I guess people hark back to it as it's been responsible for some wonderful things (smoking being bad for you being the best one that springs to mind), but if we're seriously suggesting that's the answer for obesity, in a thread about a topic where 20-30 thousand (let's remove deaths in 'care') fat, ill or old people have died over the last six months, having willingly risked exposing themselves to someone with a virus they couldn't possibly have been more educated about, then +1 from me for the realism bus.

[Spikey M]

"Education" is a whole load of bollocks

Professor Pepe outing himself as one of those edgy, nonconformist educators. :nono:

[Yevrah]

And I don't have all the answers by any means, but the first thing we need to do with the subject of fat is stop pretending it's ok. I don't think shaming people works, but people pushing all of the 'body beautiful' crap need to be treated in the same way they would if they were claiming smoking is good for you. Being fat is fucking disgusting and it's dreadful for you.

[Jimmy Floyd]

'Education' is just used as a handy out to make any old lefty bollocks opinion convince itself that things can be better in the future.

The reason we are fatter now than 50 years ago is because a) there's far greater food supply, and b) both work and leisure involve sitting down far more than they used to. I don't think a) is something that wants changing unless you're of the Mao/Pol Pot persuasion, so the only way around it is b), and I'd like to see some proposals for that.

[Lewis]

The government has spent twenty years CRACKING DOWN on 'obesity' (often conflated with merely being overweight) to the point of banning adverts and degrading the food supply, and it has made no difference. We are a reasonably wealthy country with abundant, cheap food. It's not unreasonable to think that a decent proportion of the country are always going to be fatter than they ought to be.

[Dquincy]

Sounds like Yev and Jimmy need educating. Putting them up on a peddle-stool...

[Spikey M]

People need to want to be in shape. It's as simple as that. People know the health risks, they know how getting fat works, they know how losing weight works.

If people are fat It's because they have chosen to be.

[Dquincy]

Or are lazy fucks. I.e. lack of will power.

[Dquincy]

Spoke to a client today who referred to his letting agent as "that chunky bint".

He's somewhat old school.

[Dquincy]

http://news.sky.com/story/germany-changes-guidance-and-recommends-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-for-over-65s-12235622

They've retreated! Just like they did in 1945. :uhoh:

[Foe]

If education is the answer, then why are there “educators” such as doctors and nurses who fit the criteria.

People are aware of the requirements, they don’t care.

[Spikey M]

http://news.sky.com/story/germany-changes-guidance-and-recommends-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-for-over-65s-12235622

They've retreated! Just like they did in 1945. :uhoh:

Lulz. :drool:

[7om]

Mrs Merkel said Germany would also follow the UK example of stretching the interval between vaccine doses, to offer as many people as possible an initial shot.

The MHRA must be tired of winning.

[Don]

I hope you remember that when the clubs reopen.

I like your line of argument but I must stress, the act is merely elevated by drink and drugs, they're certainly not requirements. Also, my step count in one night is what Ini Kamoze based his hit on. The cardio workout probably means a net health benefit :baz:


'Education' is just used as a handy out to make any old lefty bollocks opinion convince itself that things can be better in the future.

The reason we are fatter now than 50 years ago is because a) there's far greater food supply, and b) both work and leisure involve sitting down far more than they used to. I don't think a) is something that wants changing unless you're of the Mao/Pol Pot persuasion, so the only way around it is b), and I'd like to see some proposals for that.

I think people are misinterpeting 'education' as a guy in a classroom of fatties informing them of the science of calories and dietary requirements. As covered, that shit is already in place, the failing is in regards to people losing the connection and awareness to their bodies through the destructive lives they are encouraged to lead.

That's why you'll see fat medical professionals (:eyemouth:) and even PTs but show me an overweight spiritual master or shaman. Go on. You can't. Well you might, especially the fake ones who rely on gem stones rather than true masters of the art but I digress.

[Pepe]

Professor Pepe outing himself as one of those edgy, nonconformist educators. :nono:

I'm the opposite of edgy. I just teach my shit in the most traditional way possible. The edgy ones are currently advocating for de-grading and student-led curriculums and other such nonsense.

EDIT:

https://secure.img1-fg.wfcdn.com/im/66160534/resize-h800%5Ecompr-r85/3585/35850761/Ho+Tai+Statue.jpg

[Lewis]

He says putting his back out squatting on toilet seats.

[Pepe]

The solution is making everyone rich.

[Don]

That reminds me, I need to buy a squatty potty now that my shits aren't solely taken at work.

[Jimmy Floyd]

EU Commission now blocking vaccine exports to Australia.

:harold:

[Spikey M]

What do you want from them Jim? They can't go giving away their massive stockpiles that no cunt will take.

[Lewis]

https://i.imgur.com/a5BCX4u.jpg

We've got you cobber. That, but with syringes.

[Lewis]

1367190601712742403

:gs:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Maybe Shipman was ahead of his time.

[Dquincy]

Nurses offered 1% pay rise. Their spokesperson is not a happy bunny.

[Lofty]

Nurses offered 1% pay rise. Their spokesperson is not a happy bunny.

'What's funnier; no pay rise at all or a humiliating 1%? Both are very funny.' - Matt Hancock, probably.

[Mellberg]

I find that disgusting.

[Lewis]

They're lucky to have jobs.

[Foe]

Can’t put a price on clapping.

[Magic]

They're lucky to have jabs.

Fixed.

[Manc]

12.5%. :harold:

[Alex]

'What's funnier; no pay rise at all or a humiliating 1%? Both are very funny.' - Matt Hancock, probably.

:D

[Spikey M]

'What's funnier; no pay rise at all or a humiliating 1%? Both are very funny.' - Matt Hancock, probably.

"1%. Then give 12 billion to The Arts".

[Kikó]

They will be punished at the next election said nobody.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hard as many nurses will have had it this year, I would suggest that the Smiffys of this world have had it harder.

Emotional arguments need to be left at the door for this sort of thing, because they are so reductive.

[Spikey M]

I do enjoy the "the job I personally chose to do has been difficult this year so I should earn more" arguments. That's not the way this shit works. Unless you want Abattoir and Sewage workers to be the 1%.

[Don]

Four stillbirths in Ireland linked to COVID [placentitis]. Clubs should remain unaffected.

[Queenslander]

https://i.imgur.com/a5BCX4u.jpg

We've got you cobber. That, but with syringes.

:cool:

[Queenslander]

EU Commission now blocking vaccine exports to Australia.

:harold:

Is that due to our lack of a carbon tax?

[phonics]

I do enjoy the "the job I personally chose to do has been difficult this year so I should earn more" arguments. That's not the way this shit works. Unless you want Abattoir and Sewage workers to be the 1%.

Sewage workers make 5 grand a year more than nurses on average.

[Lewis]

lol at chump National Health Service workers missing out on them sweet privatised utility salary gains.

[Pepe]

Sewage workers make 5 grand a year more than nurses on average.

That little?

[Magic]

Four stillbirths in Ireland linked to COVID [placentitis]. Clubs should remain unaffected.

Probably would have been fat and disabled.

[Dquincy]

Four stillbirths in Ireland linked to COVID [placentitis]. Clubs should remain unaffected.
Source?

You're a little lacking on the detail.

[Dquincy]

Nurses offered 1% pay rise. Their spokesperson is not a happy bunny.

Can't wait for the government to announce a 3% pay increase for MP's...

[randomlegend]

I do enjoy the "the job I personally chose to do has been difficult this year so I should earn more" arguments. That's not the way this shit works. Unless you want Abattoir and Sewage workers to be the 1%.

If your workload was dramatically increased you wouldn't expect a payrise?

[randomlegend]

Hard as many nurses will have had it this year, I would suggest that the Smiffys of this world have had it harder.

Emotional arguments need to be left at the door for this sort of thing, because they are so reductive.

Nobody can convince me that anyone has had it worse than ITU nurses.

[Spikey M]

If your workload was dramatically increased you wouldn't expect a payrise?

My workload has increased. I'd like a payrise, but I'd actually expect additional staff to be hired instead. Unless there's reason to believe my workload is soon decrease again...

Look, I get that the NHS doesn't pay particularly well, but that's no secret ahead of time. It just feels a bit snide taking a job because it's what you want to do, but then expecting to profit because the National Health Service had to provide... a health service.

[Magic]

If your workload was dramatically increased you wouldn't expect a payrise?

This is such public sector attitude. :D

If my workload was dramatically increased (and the company was making loads of money) then yes I would.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Nobody can convince me that anyone has had it worse than ITU nurses.

Including the not inconsiderable number of people who have not had an income at all?

[Magic]

Member all those DRAFTED IN vaccinators who are being paid like £230 an hour? Aye.

[Spikey M]

Including the not inconsiderable number of people who have not had an income at all?

The people that have lost everything they've ever worked for are nothing in comparison to the ICU staff that had to fulfill ICU duties.

[SvN]

I had to answer phones for 3 months while people were on furlough. The nurses had it easy.

[Ian]

The jobs thread is gonna be a lot quieter now everybody's decided you should never complain about stuff that just comes with the job or expect a payrise other than to cover cost of living.

[Kikó]

They're lucky to still have jobs considering they're the National HOMOCIDE Service.

[Magic]

The people that have lost everything they've ever worked for are nothing in comparison to the ICU staff that had to fulfill ICU duties.

You're an absolute disgrace.

[randomlegend]

This is such public sector attitude. :D

If my workload was dramatically increased (and the company was making loads of money) then yes I would.



You wouldn't give a single fuck how much your company was making when you considered whether you wanted a pay rise unless you owned it.

[Magic]

You wouldn't give a single fuck how much your company was making when you considered whether you wanted a pay rise unless you owned it.

Yeah I'd go elsewhere then.

[Spikey M]

There is an argument to be made that Nurses should earn more money. Same goes for Care Workers and Teachers. They perform important roles in society and in a fair world would out earn most of us.

The issue is using Covid as an excuse to demand a payrise when the reality is, as shit as it must have been, they are doing their job. It's not as if they've been conscripted. They literally trained to do it whilst being fully aware of the wage.

Magic had it right (stopped clock), with Jimmy in the Spring he was doing his whole teams work whilst the rest were off on Furlough and his boss was coining it off of his hard work. That deserves a raise. Redistribute the profit. The NHS are losing money hand over fist. There's no profiting for the NHS in a pandemic.

[randomlegend]

There's no point having this discussion here. You just have absolutely zero comprehension what it's like working in healthcare and what it's been like for people like ITU nurses who've borne the brunt of the pandemic.

It makes you feel good to sit around being smug about whining public sector workers so good for you, have at it.

[Don]

Solid victory, wp lads.

[Queenslander]

5 people have the Russian variant got me thinking has Tony Abbott threatened to shirt front Putin while working for Boris?

[Spikey M]

I have literally never heard of a Russian VARIANT. What does this one bring to the party?

[Queenslander]

I have literally never heard of a Russian VARIANT. What does this one bring to the party?

Nothing just 5 of em in North QLD.

[Spikey M]

Nothing just 5 of em in North QLD.

Oh for fuck sake. They could atleast cross-breed it with Anthrax in one of their dodgy labs or something. They're going soft.

[Queenslander]

Juicy first headline of the day.

[randomlegend]

Magic had it right (stopped clock), with Jimmy in the Spring he was doing his whole teams work whilst the rest were off on Furlough and his boss was coining it off of his hard work. That deserves a raise. Redistribute the profit. The NHS are losing money hand over fist. There's no profiting for the NHS in a pandemic


This is a spectacularly dumb argument. The NHS isn't a money-making organisation, that's not how its success is measured. There's no profiting for the NHS ever under any circumstances.

You can privatise it, pay a lot more for it and then pay me a fuck load more to not treat you because your insurance doesn't cover what you need if that would make you feel better.

If you work for a private company and make your Korean overlords a few extra quid by covering for colleagues you deserve a raise, but if you save a few hundred lives by doing the work of six nurses on ITU you don't because your organisation didn't make any money off it.

Perhaps we should start docking nurses wages for looking after anyone who isn't at work given their survival will be a net monetary loss to society.

[Spikey M]

This is a spectacularly dumb argument. The NHS isn't a money-making organisation, that's not how its success is measured. There's no profiting for the NHS ever under any circumstances.

You can privatise it, pay a lot more for it and then pay me a fuck load more to not treat you because your insurance doesn't cover what you need if that would make you feel better

This is a spectacularly dumb response.

The point is "hard work" is not the barometer of pay rises. In the private sector, the barometer is 'performance' I.e, how much profit you generate. In the public sector the barometer is 'do we have any money left over'. To which the answer is no, and always will be.

As I said, Nurses SOULD earn more, but not "because it's been a really hard year". That, as you're fond of saying, is the mindset of a toddler.

[randomlegend]

The barometer in the public sector should equally be performance, and some people in the NHS have performed unbelievably this year. If everyone has to pay some extra tax to fund that then that's fine by me, given they've all benefited.