Coronavirus Death Thread

[Shindig]

Aye and you wonder if the normal workflow has been impacted by everyone isolating. Like less old people falling over, RTA's, etc.

[Lee]

Anyone have any stats on total daily deaths in England per day. 2019 was 1400 per day, but it's difficult to find any data for now (Covid + everything else).

https://twitter.com/alistairhaimes/status/1242758184722477056?s=21

What we’re likely to see is a lump where there wouldn’t normally be one, as deaths from seasonal stuff should reduce. But it’s a stretch to see the new lump being as big as the normal winter one. It is dependent on restrictions working, though.

It will be interesting to see what the seasonal impact will be. Early research points to there being some. Transmission is around 20% more difficult in warmer and more humid conditions - compared to 90% with flu, although that difference accounts for the lack of immunity against Covid.

[Lewis]

Going on holiday in England is presumably a non-starter as well if all the hotels/wanky holiday lets are going to be swamped and turning money away. Enjoy your garden lads.

[Yevrah]

So can I deduce from that Lee that the current lockdown will last at least 3 months?

[Don]

Anyone have any stats on total daily deaths in England per day. 2019 was 1400 per day, but it's difficult to find any data for now (Covid + everything else).

They've had to remove them from public access to keep the fearmongering from failing.

[Boydy]

I just tried to go to the Spar and/or Tesco Express up the road. Queues around the car park for both.

Fuck this.

[Lee]

So can I deduce from that Lee that the current lockdown will last at least 3 months?

I don’t know. I’m making the assumption that the reduction in demand only happens if the lockdown lasts for the duration of the analysis, which is to the end of June. Whether or not we get some sort of relief before then will depend on how widely we can test for active cases and legacy cases. The biggest limitation we have is not knowing if there are tonnes of people who get nothing worse than a suspected cold.

[Yevrah]

I just tried to go to the Spar and/or Tesco Express up the road. Queues around the car park for both.

Fuck this.

The people who stockpiled really did nail it.

Shower of shit obviously, but they're lolling through their Sugar Puffs now.

[Boydy]

The people who stockpiled really did nail it.

Shower of shit obviously, but they're lolling through their Sugar Puffs now.

I've still got enough food for a while but I wanted some bread and milk.

I drove into the car park and straight back out. I can't be arsed with that.

[Lee]

Matt Hancock has it now. Have we all fucking had it?

[Yevrah]

Matt Hancock has it now. Have we all fucking had it?

It just ties into what I was saying yesterday/whenever. Anyone still going about their daily business has no chance of avoiding it.

[Lewis]

It was one in/one out when I went to Co-op yesterday, but the line outside was about five people. I think I'll just pick odd bits up on my daily mooch rather than go near the big Asda for the duration. Fuck doing a half mile Moscow conga just for some ice pops.

[Magic]

I've still got enough food for a while but I wanted some bread and milk.

I drove into the car park and straight back out. I can't be arsed with that.

Whilst our supermarkets are like that, Lidl and Aldi are surprisingly quiet and fully stocked.

[Boydy]

I haven't tried going to a big supermarket yet as I thought they'd be mental. Thought the smaller shops would be alright though. Maybe it was just a bad time to go. If a lot of people are still working from home maybe they were going on their lunch break (as I was).

[Adramelch]

It would be nice to get some stats from ze Germans regarding testing and the percentage of asymptomatic people given they do seem to be ahead in terms of how many people they test on a daily basis.

In terms of supermarkets, I go to the local Carrefour, which is of course a big one, and while the queues are quite large, the movement is generally quite fast. I'd say in the worst case I had to wait about 30 minutes which, while being a bummer, is not that bad honestly.

[John Arne]

https://twitter.com/alistairhaimes/status/1242758184722477056?s=21

What we’re likely to see is a lump where there wouldn’t normally be one, as deaths from seasonal stuff should reduce. But it’s a stretch to see the new lump being as big as the normal winter one. It is dependent on restrictions working, though.

It will be interesting to see what the seasonal impact will be. Early research points to there being some. Transmission is around 20% more difficult in warmer and more humid conditions - compared to 90% with flu, although that difference accounts for the lack of immunity against Covid.

So, despite Corona, we are currently tracking below the 5-year average by a couple of hundred a week - that seems strange. Like you said, I guess large sample will produce a better result.

[John Arne]

We're seeing more Whitey's being denied access to supermarkets and stores here. #Racism

[Yevrah]

So, despite Corona, we are currently tracking below the 5-year average by a couple of hundred a week - that seems strange. Like you said, I guess large sample will produce a better result.

We're not losing many lives to Coronavirus yet, so at this stage, it's not going to make a dent vs. 1,400 a day average and Alistair Haimes is a copper bottomed moron for thinking otherwise.

If/when we hit 700 a day his riddle will be solved.

[Browning]

In the “we’ve all had it” theory, when are we supposed to have had it?

[Don]

Friday 28th February 2020 18.29 GMT

[Browning]

Sounds about right, I was coughing then.

[Yevrah]

In the “we’ve all had it” theory, when are we supposed to have had it?

Indeed. We really haven't it's just the risk to those of catching it who are still out there working goes up and up every day.

[Spikey M]

In the “we’ve all had it” theory, when are we supposed to have had it?

At any point between when it started and now. It seems very common to be asymptomatic and I think most of us have had a cough / fever over the last few months. Although nobody has said we've ALL had it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My best advice for food wanters with the means to do so is spend a bit of that moolah that you're currently not spending on the pub/commute/any kind of social life on deliveries 2/3 times a week. Keeps you out of the supermarket and keeps local businesses going. A well chosen one will do a couple of meals reheated too.

Doesn't help with milk, I admit.

[Lee]

We're not losing many lives to Coronavirus yet, so at this stage, it's not going to make a dent vs. 1,400 a day average and Alistair Haimes is a copper bottomed moron for thinking otherwise.

If/when we hit 700 a day his riddle will be solved.

I think over the course of the year it’s quite possible that the total excess deaths number won’t be higher than four figures, in large part because Covid will do in people who were already going to be done in.

But a year on year measure like that used by Haimes, who can’t get his head around the idea that if numbers end up low it will be because we’ve spent months in hermitage, are useless at the moment.

[Boydy]

My best advice for food wanters is spend a bit of that moolah that you're currently not spending on the pub/commute/any kind of social life on deliveries 2/3 times a week. Keeps you out of the supermarket and keeps local businesses going. A well chosen one will do a couple of meals reheated too.
As in takeaways? I'm not sure I trust them at the minute.

[Boydy]

My cousin just told me his friend went to a big Tesco at half ten this morning and got back home at half one.

[Yevrah]

I can't find a single local business (which I assume is what Jim's referring to) that has any capacity to take new orders currently.

[Yevrah]

My cousin just told me his friend went to a big Tesco at half ten this morning and got back home at half one.

He'll be riddled with it now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

As in takeaways? I'm not sure I trust them at the minute.

Yeah. I trust them as much as I trust the loaf of bread on the supermarket shelf which has been fingered by Doris down the road 14 times.

[Foe]

I’m planning on a mooch this evening and trip to the supermarket then. Hoping that by 7.30 - 8 when everyone else is clapping or watching tv I’ll be able to swan around and grab what I want.

Going between 9-6 is madness IMO.

[Don]

If you'd told people a month ago that they could opt to queue up an extra hour for their groceries in exchange for not having to go to work, I reckon the uptake would have been quite significant.

In regards to said shopping task, I've found a great tip that works for me is to reduce my masturbation time by said hour and value my free time realistically.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I went to the Tesco Metro at about 6 last night and there was no queue to get in and plenty on the shelves, including loo roll (!). That said, it has the key advantage of not having a car park and you can't really drive to it at all unless you are willing to park in a neighbouring road.

I'm starting to think I'm in an advantageous area for this re. suburban sprawl, if you live in a more self-contained town or city with countryside on all sides it's probably more of a nightmare.

[Spikey M]

Wank in the queue and you'll finish both in record time.

[bruhnaldo]

Was there a league table update John_Arne cause I feel like we've surely gotta be in Coronas League places now.

[Lee]

181 new UK deaths.

[Boydy]

If you'd told people a month ago that they could opt to queue up an extra hour for their groceries in exchange for not having to go to work, I reckon the uptake would have been quite significant.

In regards to said shopping task, I've found a great tip that works for me is to reduce my masturbation time by said hour and value my free time realistically.

I'm still working. :cry:

[Lewis]

That one extra death letting all the darts fans down.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm still working as well but we've worked out (via Teams, how marvellous) that as soon as one warehouse worker gets it, they will all walk and the company will have to shut down.

Going into the office on Monday for my turn on the rotation, as it stands :drool:

[Don]

We're all fucking 'working', that doesn't mean we haven't got 6 hours a day freed up to play with our mushroom as opposed to pretend to be working.

[Shindig]

I don't like those numbers. I know it'll take at least another week for the lockdown to have an impact but it still looks shite.

[Lee]

I don't like those numbers. I know it'll take at least another week for the lockdown to have an impact but it still looks shite.

Lockdown will do nothing for the deaths numbers for ages yet. Case numbers will turn first and that’s still a couple of weeks off.

[Luca]

Yeah. I trust them as much as I trust the loaf of bread on the supermarket shelf which has been fingered by Doris down the road 14 times.

This (https://www.seriouseats.com/2020/03/food-safety-and-coronavirus-a-comprehensive-guide.html)is a great guide to Food Safety & COVID by a guy who knows what he's talking about.

[John Arne]

This (https://www.seriouseats.com/2020/03/food-safety-and-coronavirus-a-comprehensive-guide.html)is a great guide to Food Safety & COVID by a guy who knows what he's talking about.

That's interesting. It seems to suggest that there have been ZERO transmissions through smearing (essentially shared surfaces) and also suggests that it's almost impossible to contract via food.


Can I get COVID-19 from touching or eating contaminated food?

there is currently no evidence that COVID-19 has spread through food or food packaging
According to multiple health and safety organizations worldwide, including the CDC, the USDA, and the European Food safety Authority, there is currently no evidence that COVID-19 has spread through food or food packaging. Previous coronavirus epidemics likewise showed no evidence of having been spread through food or packaging.


Aside from inhalation, are there other ways coronavirus can spread?

So, most transmissions must just be down to people sneezing and coughing on each other, and each others food. Dirty lot.

The German Federal Institute for Risk Assesment (BfR) reports that it is also possible—but unlikely—that the virus could be spread through "smear" infection. In these cases, a healthy person would touch a contaminated surface with their hands—say, a can of soup, a touchscreen ATM, or a subway turnstile—then transfer the virus to their eyes or nose. There have been no known cases of this method of transfer,

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

See with the NHS sending out letters to 1.5 million vulnerable people in England, can anyone help me on what's supposed to happen in Scotland? Only just found out these ones were England only as thought my dad was going to get one.

[John Arne]

A possible 12 years in prison :drool:

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[Andy]

We are being told not to wear masks unless you have the virus or are spending time with someone who has the virus.

[Waffdon]

Sounds like my old man has it. NHS 24 says they’ll contact in 48 hours for further testing or something if he’s not improving.

His work supply the car parts for Emergency Services and there’s 50 odd blokes in and out the place all day going everywhere. No surprises

[Lewis]

A possible 12 years in prison :drool:

https://i.imgur.com/5ILdkZH.jpg?1

[Lewis]

In related news, Michael Barrymore is playing the Strike it Lucky board game against random people via Instagram. Someone with that try getting on and asking him about the pool thermometer.

[niko_cee]

Is anyone else noticing that the animals have definitely clocked that something isn't normal with all this lockdown business? I encountered a right bolshy little blackbird earlier and I've definitely seen rats about, which I don't think I have ever before.

[thommo]

Sounds like my old man has it. NHS 24 says they’ll contact in 48 hours for further testing or something if he’s not improving.

His work supply the car parts for Emergency Services and there’s 50 odd blokes in and out the place all day going everywhere. No surprises

Probably just a publicity stunt.

[Adramelch]

There's been wildlife spotted around big cities across the globe.

[John Arne]

In related news, Michael Barrymore is playing the Strike it Lucky board game against random people via Instagram. Someone with that try getting on and asking him about the pool thermometer.

I though he had croaked it, already.

[SvN]

In related news, Michael Barrymore is playing the Strike it Lucky board game against random people via Instagram. Someone with that try getting on and asking him about the pool thermometer.

His hair is looking fantastic. I'm DMing him to find out who did his transplant.

[Lewis]

I went to feed the swans yesterday and the pigeons bullied the soft cunts right out of it. It was embarrassing to watch to be honest.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Is anyone else noticing that the animals have definitely clocked that something isn't normal with all this lockdown business? I encountered a right bolshy little blackbird earlier and I've definitely seen rats about, which I don't think I have ever before.

I'm guessing the bins/litter/scrap market is not functioning for them like it normally does.

[Spikey M]

Chris Whitty now. Lol.

[Lewis]

His hair is looking fantastic. I'm DMing him to find out who did his transplant.

It's a decent effort in that it's quite a subtle one, to the point where it's not all that obvious that it even is one. He hasn't gone mental and tried to make it better than new. It's almost like what his hair might have been without all the bum-murder stress.

[Lee]

Whitty is self-isolating now. I reckon the Queen is patient zero.

[John Arne]

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[Waffdon]

Probably just a publicity stunt.

Nah, he’s addicted to his work. 65 hour weeks. He won’t know what to do with himself.

[Kikó]

919 in Italy.

[mugbull]

Oof

[Mellberg]

Trump has to be a dead man walking at this stage. He's rightly going to take a lot of blame for the US response.

[Lee]

Gove is fucking terrible.

[Shindig]

919 in Italy.

At this point I've no idea what the peak for them will look like. Their healthcare system must be completely shattered.

[Jimmy Floyd]

How many of them have to be gunned down before Chris Grayling gets the callup?

[Magic]

Are we having a celebratory thread when they break the 1000 barrier?

[Giggles]

I want to see Liverpool lift the premier league trophy, have blanket media coverage, and a 3 week bus tour if it would mean the end of this.

[Yevrah]

Is anyone else noticing that the animals have definitely clocked that something isn't normal with all this lockdown business? I encountered a right bolshy little blackbird earlier and I've definitely seen rats about, which I don't think I have ever before.

Yep. I mentioned this a while ago. The alligators in Florida will genuinely be roaming towns if this keeps up.

[John]

Spain will be the worst hit by this in the end I think. Italy seem to have at least banded together to some extent, looking out for eachother and obeying the rules for the most part. Spain have gone to full every man for himself apocalypse conditions in record time. The stories about care home staff having fucked off and the army finding homes full of people dead in their beds are, although no doubt somewhat exaggerated, just horrific.

[Magic]

Spain will be the worst hit by this in the end I think. Italy seem to have at least banded together to some extent, looking out for eachother and obeying the rules for the most part. Spain have gone to full every man for himself apocalypse conditions in record time. The stories about care home staff having fucked off and the army finding homes full of people dead in their beds are, although no doubt somewhat exaggerated, just horrific.

They do that don't they. Like the recession just abandoning shit.

[phonics]

So we just announced that the conference we work on has been moved to online, cancelling my free trip to San Francisco and the 3 month VISA that came with it but it could be worse:

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[Lewis]

They should have said pulled rather than cancelled.

[Yevrah]

Today's Italian numbers, at the stage they're at, are at the level that racks up the death toll that we've been talking about.

[phonics]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUIxwZIXYAAh-ui.png

Is there anything this plague will not destroy?

[Ian]

Braved a shop and it's a pity it took a global pandemic but that was legitimately one of the best supermarket experiences of my life.

[Giggles]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUIxwZIXYAAh-ui.png

Is there anything this plague will not destroy?

That’s not the biggest question here.

[Bob Sacamano]

Kings Heath :facepalm:

Can't say I'm suprised though.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/frontline-nhs-staff-first-to-receive-new-covid-19-antigen-tests

What the fuck is the antigen test as opposed to the antibody one? Will it not work if you've recovered from it?

[Boydy]

Antigen tests if you currently have it. Antibody tests if you have had it.

[Spikey M]

Kings Heath :facepalm:

Can't say I'm suprised though.

I lived there when I was at Uni. What's happened?

[Don]

So a limited time window for its use and one which is possibly undetermined? Well I won't be hunting that down on Amazon.

[Giggles]

We are on LOCKDOWN.

[Giggles]

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[Giggles]

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[Manc]

I've just rang my local takeway asking for an eta on my food and they told me it won't be arriving. All orders after 6.30pm cancelled apparently. I asked when I would be refunded and he didn't have a clue. That'll be a brick through his window then.

[Adramelch]

Rumor has it that France will extend the lockdown for 4 more weeks. Macron to address the country tomorrow on the matter.

[Waffdon]

I've just rang my local takeway asking for an eta on my food and they told me it won't be arriving. All orders after 6.30pm cancelled apparently. I asked when I would be refunded and he didn't have a clue. That'll be a brick through his window then.

I’ve been waiting 2 hours on mines. With a population of 10,000 it cannot be that fkn busy.

[Giggles]

2k from the gaff.

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[Spikey M]

We are on LOCKDOWN.

I thought you already were?

[Giggles]

Not really, just restrictions on groups and stuff.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Macron and Varadkar share the same quality of being cringey as fuck when gunning for 'statesmanlike'.

At least Boris is the same bumbling fool always.

[Giggles]

Macron and Varadkar share the same quality of being cringey as fuck when gunning for 'statesmanlike'.

At least Boris is the same bumbling fool always.

French and brown.

Good old Blighty eh? We might beat a few at this one.

[Lewis]

Both gay more like.

[ScousePig]

We're down to just a handful of kids in school so I'm not even needed next week. My job is to sort out the remote learning for the 95% of the school who are off.

By sort I mean look into the possibilities and go in on Monday and feed back to the head and deputy.

[Bernanke]

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Go, go London!

[niko_cee]

Are Germany on lockdown? If they are then fair fucks to Jersey for being the last society standing against the immediacy of modern life.

[Adramelch]

They are yeah.

[Queenslander]

A possible 12 years in prison :drool:

https://gyazo.com/842b1f492c616debbb02d1c1178d82ae.jpeg

:drool:

[Mike]

We're down to just a handful of kids in school so I'm not even needed next week. My job is to sort out the remote learning for the 95% of the school who are off.

By sort I mean look into the possibilities and go in on Monday and feed back to the head and deputy.

We had 11 in today and 3 staff with them (one requires 1:1 support) and I had a lovely day. Did some work with them then we were outside having fun from about 10:30-11:00. All done by 3:30 too, normally I’m in until 5:30 on a Friday.
I’m meant to be in next week but was told there sorting a new rota and it seems it’ll be a while before I’m in again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Done a bit more reading (fuck knows why I do this to myself) and pretty sure major American cities are going to burn from this.

Are they even on proper lockdown yet?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Also, this is about to get really fucking shit and we're all about to be one or two degrees of separation from someone who dies. Sorry.

[Spikey M]

It's incredible. I know you like your freedom and your disaster movies lads, but, you know... sort it out.

I'm on a Powerlifting page on Facebook and it's 90% American. They really don't give a fuck. Their only concern is if a gym closes near by.

[Shindig]

The longer it goes on, the shorter those odds get. :(

[ScousePig]

We had 11 in today and 3 staff with them (one requires 1:1 support) and I had a lovely day. Did some work with them then we were outside having fun from about 10:30-11:00. All done by 3:30 too, normally I’m in until 5:30 on a Friday.
I’m meant to be in next week but was told there sorting a new rota and it seems it’ll be a while before I’m in again.

I was almost a bit disappointed when I saw I wasn't on the rota next week because it's good to go in a bit considering the current environment, and like you say it's quite chilled with just a few kids and not teaching the curriculum or stressing about sats. Instead I'll just need to try and get my head around google classroom.

In other news, my mum is moving to the front line on Monday as her ward is closed down now and she's going on to the 'coronavirus ward'.

[Mazuuurk]

Done a bit more reading (fuck knows why I do this to myself) and pretty sure major American cities are going to burn from this.

Are they even on proper lockdown yet?


Also, this is about to get really fucking shit and we're all about to be one or two degrees of separation from someone who dies. Sorry.


Can you elaborate a bit...? :worried:

[Spikey M]

Can you elaborate a bit...? :worried:

I know it's been posted, but it speaks volumes:

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[Bob Sacamano]

I lived there when I was at Uni. What's happened?

It's just been featured on C4 news as the busiest high street in the country despite current circumstances, they sent a reporter to interview the local mongs queuing up outside the Asda.

Moseley hasn't been much better, all the homeless across Birmingham seem to have congregated to drink K Cider and sing UB40.

[Don]

The key to maintaining perspective is to remember that the deaths are largely inferior specimens whose time has come and gone (any decent stats on distribution of deaths in relation to underlying health conditions?). The real worry is if it causes verified dons to lose a couple of senses permanently.

Properly jinxed my parents there but you don't become a TTH legend through sitting on the fence.

[Mazuuurk]

Yeah I mean, but I meant more the one or two separation from someone who dies bit. Does that mean we will have a couple of hundred million deaths worldwide or something? What is the math behind it?

[Spikey M]

It means that Kevin Bacon has it.

[Shindig]

And that graph's numbering is squished. 5,000 to 10,000 to 20,000 to 50,000. Hence Italy's flattening curve.

[Giggles]

So who’s donning who?

[Adramelch]

And that graph's numbering is squished. 5,000 to 10,000 to 20,000 to 50,000. Hence Italy's flattening curve.

It's a logarithmic scale to track the exponential growth.

[Baz]

We should do whatever Japan’s doing.

[Mazuuurk]

What I heard they are doing is completely lying about their numbers. But I've no very credible source at all.

[Mellberg]

New York is so, so fucked.

[Lee]

Also, this is about to get really fucking shit and we're all about to be one or two degrees of separation from someone who dies. Sorry.

You - like me - could do with a weekend of ignoring this thing.

The numbers are definitely going to get a lot worse quickly over the next few weeks (taking into account that the number of dead will rise for 2-3 weeks after cases start to fall). They’ll stay bad for a few weeks.

All you can do is keep on at the people you care about to stay within the rules and be grateful that each day they’re not sick means they won’t be in the numbers in another two weeks. And remember; even the among the old and sick the vast majority come out the other side.

This will be an anxiety inducing two or three months for most of us. But for most of us it is also the case that the anxiety will be the worst of it.

[Pepe]

New York is so, so fucked.

Hope they prevent all the twats from leaving so that they don't come infect the rest of us.

[Giggles]

I’m so glad I’m working a regular day every day so I can stay off the HORROR on here and Twitter until evening.

[Mellberg]

If you'd have asked me early on to guess which city outside of China would be the worst hit, that would be it. Not sure if that's because it's a tourist hotspot in a relatively confined space, or because there were LOADS of Chinese there when I visited.

Also, Cheltenham was on just last week. Seemed a joke at the time. Absolutely wreckless with hindsight.

[Giggles]

If you'd have asked me early on to guess which city outside of China would be the worst hit, that would be it. Not sure if that's because it's a tourist hotspot in a relatively confined space, or because there were LOADS of Chinese there when I visited.

Also, Cheltenham was on just last week. Seemed a joke at the time. Absolutely wreckless with hindsight.

Most here were screaming for the government to either stop people going to Cheltenham from here or to not let them back in if they went. They did neither and it must be a huge contributor.

[Mellberg]

The entire planet's either on or going in to lockdown mate. I know people don't enjoy hearing it, but there's no doubting the HORROR/severity.

[Giggles]

There seems to be a certain delight in NY being badly hit though, mainly from the British again. It’s a bit sad really.

[Giggles]

The entire planet's either on or going in to lockdown mate. I know people don't enjoy hearing it, but there's no doubting the HORROR/severity.

Yeah but once you know what you have to do yourself then it’s nice to get a break from it. If you were to constantly read Yev and Jim here you’d be running out under the first bus you could find.

[Queenslander]

Apparently 40 000 people from Wuhan went to New York the same month it broke out in Wuhan.

[Mellberg]

Fair one. Yev did end society after his meeting at work.

[Kikó]

Can't believe yevrah caused this.

[Jimmy Floyd]

There seems to be a certain delight in NY being badly hit though, mainly from the British again. It’s a bit sad really.

There's nothing to do in this situation except to hope that you and your own aren't the ones who go under the train.

[Josh]

New York is so, so fucked.

I was walking the dog today (and keeping very very far from everyone considering I may have it) and in the park, there were groups of people playing football. Huge amount of runners on the track that when passing were not 6ft from each other, playing baseball and even some guys tossing a rugby ball around.

Everyone I know here is taking it seriously but it doesn't seem to have hit home for the yoof.

It didn't help that today was 19 degrees so people wanted to be outside. I genuinely fear for this place when it warms up, everyone will be out. They need to bring in strict measures.

We have cop cars driving around telling people from a megaphone to keep apart but nobody listens. I then saw the same car sitting idle whilst the dude played on his phone.

I've felt this since before the outbreak but it feels a bit third world here sometimes. Great city but its fucking disgusting and filthy. And some of the people are so backwards.

Luca did the right thing to get out when he could. Ultimately I know nobody here I care about that is in any way vulnerable and considering I think I've had it, I'm pretty relaxed about it all but I do have friends with older family and they're rightly worried. There's a huge shortfall in PPE and then there's fellas on the streets selling masks - proper looky looky man situation. Weird city/country; but so much fun when everyone isn't dying.

Oh also, we had a 7pm clap for all key workers. Not one person clapped in our building haha

[phonics]

I was walking the dog today (and keeping very very far from everyone considering I may have it)


Sorry, WHAT THE FUCK were you doing outside?

[Don]

We've got to be grateful for living through this madness, you just couldn't make it up.

The mental battle is going to be stunning. Not so much the melts who have hos and nappies to keep them distracted, they'll see it through (the relationships may not) but the lone warriors who are staring into the abyss.

'Everyone is the other, no one is themselves'. Not any more, son, not anymore :drool:

[Josh]

Sorry, WHAT THE FUCK were you doing outside?

Walking my dog.

[Manc]

Scum.

[phonics]

Walking my dog.

Get a dog walker ffs.

[mugbull]

Lol i think that was actually honest rage from Phonics

[Disco]

You wouldn't see Greg doing something like that.

[phonics]

Lol i think that was actually honest rage from Phonics

'I think I've got a virus that has killed thousands of people but gotta save 25 dollars to walk the dog' is just insanely selfish. I genuinely can't wrap my mind around it.

[Josh]

Get a dog walker ffs.

Who would have to touch my dog/leash etc that we've been touching? And my dog pisses more than once a day so you want me to pay $100 a day? He goes about 4 times.

Fwiw I wore a mask and gloves and literally just went round the block so he doesn't shit and piss in my apartment. I walked in the road if there was anyone on the sidewalk. I work for an infection prevention organization so I'm aware of the risks etc.

Take the L and walk away.

[Luca]

I was walking the dog today (and keeping very very far from everyone considering I may have it) and in the park, there were groups of people playing football. Huge amount of runners on the track that when passing were not 6ft from each other, playing baseball and even some guys tossing a rugby ball around.

Everyone I know here is taking it seriously but it doesn't seem to have hit home for the yoof.

It didn't help that today was 19 degrees so people wanted to be outside. I genuinely fear for this place when it warms up, everyone will be out. They need to bring in strict measures.

We have cop cars driving around telling people from a megaphone to keep apart but nobody listens. I then saw the same car sitting idle whilst the dude played on his phone.

I've felt this since before the outbreak but it feels a bit third world here sometimes. Great city but its fucking disgusting and filthy. And some of the people are so backwards.

Luca did the right thing to get out when he could. Ultimately I know nobody here I care about that is in any way vulnerable and considering I think I've had it, I'm pretty relaxed about it all but I do have friends with older family and they're rightly worried. There's a huge shortfall in PPE and then there's fellas on the streets selling masks - proper looky looky man situation. Weird city/country; but so much fun when everyone isn't dying.

Oh also, we had a 7pm clap for all key workers. Not one person clapped in our building haha

I figured aligning my health insurance to my current location was probably the right call, especially being in the US on a temporary visa.

I reckon that if I’d gone to Smithfield Hall for the derby I’d have gotten it.

[Mellberg]

We've got to be grateful for living through this madness, you just couldn't make it up.

The mental battle is going to be stunning. Not so much the melts who have hos and nappies to keep them distracted, they'll see it through (the relationships may not) but the lone warriors who are staring into the abyss.

'Everyone is the other, no one is themselves'. Not any more, son, not anymore :drool:

I'm single, this was my seventh day of isolation, and it's the first time I've felt the strain. Two quick chats with the shopkeeper in a week isn't good for your health.

I've not seen anyone in my flat all week. Surreal.

[Boydy]

Get on tesco now lads. New click and collect slots for 17th April.

[Lewis]

Other than the mild annoyance of not being able to go to the gym this week has been an absolute piece of piss for me. Neighbours appears to be going to some weird reduced schedule as of next week though, so we'll see.

[Don]

Yep, week 1 was all new and intriguing and there was enough novelty to it but week 2 has shown signs of the bleakness to come.

Once all the vaseline and jizz settles, all that will be left is inner reflection and I'm not sure any one is ready for that shit. The 'social recession' is going to bite.

[Josh]

I figured aligning my health insurance to my current location was probably the right call, especially being in the US on a temporary visa.

I reckon that if I’d gone to Smithfield Hall for the derby I’d have gotten it.

Can you come back and walk my dog 4 times a day please?

[Pepe]

It's been easy for me so far. Plenty of work to do, unfortunately, and after that is all walks in the woods, videogames, and TV shows. Better than the regular schedule.

[Queenslander]

Champagne socialist are still calling for a level 4 lock down. I think Im done with the Greens for the time being...

[John Arne]

UK Foreign Office over here starting to talk about repatriation for Brits... Why the fuck would anyone who has already decided to stay (ie. they live here now) want to go back to the shitstorm that's happening in the UK.
No thanks, mate.

[John Arne]

Champagne socialist are still calling for a level 4 lock down. I think Im done with the Greens for the time being...

How is Bondi '20000 punters' Beach looking nowadays?

[Queenslander]

How is Bondi '20000 punters' Beach looking nowadays?

At least 100 back packers caught the bug so no doubt the numbers must be 10 times that at least. I actually think Sydney needs to be on a higher level than the rest of the country. We are 2 they probably deserve a 3.

The first load of cruise ship people in forced isolation claim they are being kept in prison like conditions which makes me lol a lot.

[Queenslander]

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-28/coronavirus-queensland-police-fines-and-expanded-telehealth/12089558?pfmredir=sm&sf232041309=1&utm_medium=spredfast&utm_content=sf232041309&utm_campaign=abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com


The state recorded 70 more cases of coronavirus overnight, bringing its total to 625, with three people in intensive care and 45,000 tested


Queensland police said the community should expect an increased number of officers checking on people under public health directions and taking action against those who did not comply.

They warned those who failed to abide by quarantine directions would face penalties of up to $13,345 for individuals and $66,672.50 for corporations.

Absolutely no need to put Queensland in a level 4 lockdown.

[Spikey M]

Also, this is about to get really fucking shit and we're all about to be one or two degrees of separation from someone who dies. Sorry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-52040991

He (and his wife) was my GP before I moved. They were nice as well. :(

[mo]

Get on tesco now lads. New click and collect slots for 17th April.

Really got my hopes up. I suppose 8 hrs was enough for those slots to get taken up.

[Magic]

51 Italian doctors dead so far.

RIP RL.

[Mazuuurk]

Why do doctors and medical staff seem to die more? Is that just skewed reporting or is it because of exhaustion or what.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They must get virus loaded into them like grain into a silo.

[Shindig]

Think about the conditions they work under. They pick this up, continue to work with barely any sleep in a high stress situation. Unless they're taken off the front line, they have no chance to recover.

[Queenslander]

They're just pussies.

[Yevrah]

It's the viral load they get from being surrounded by it.

[mugbull]

Why do doctors and medical staff seem to die more? Is that just skewed reporting or is it because of exhaustion or what.

High viral load, i.e. being exposed to a virus by touching an infected doorknob is very different from being repeatedly exposed over several weeks by hundreds of sick people coughing all over you

[Kikó]

It'll be exhaustion not some mega virus.

[mugbull]

It'll be exhaustion not some mega virus.

That too, but the load is critical:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_load

[Magic]

Bet RL is choking for a high viral load to be dumped down his throat.

[Magic]

Two things:

The chonkers are lying MASSIVELY about their death toll.

European countries are counting deaths from Corona as those who tested positive but would have died anyway from something else.

[Shindig]

I've been watching a junior doctor's Vlogs on youtube and he mentioned something iffy. A couple of days back he was working the Covid ward. He's now back on a normal ward. That's risky, right?

[mugbull]

I keep hearing this line that the Chinese are lying about their deaths without any evidence at all, besides the fact that they're the CCP. It might just be the case that China did a relatively good job in dealing with the virus, in contrast to the Western world, which I know is quite difficult for people to admit

[-james-]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/26/world/asia/japan-coronavirus.html

This is quite interesting. Everyone's been busy clap emoji-ing their approach along with South Korea but it looks like they've properly fucked it. 25000 tested in total lol.

I thought Tokyo on this (https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1241730634109894656) was a bit of an eyebrow raiser when I saw it earlier in the week, looks like they've not really bothered doing anything.

[Magic]

I keep hearing this line that the Chinese are lying about their deaths without any evidence at all, besides the fact that they're the CCP. It might just be the case that China did a relatively good job in dealing with the virus, in contrast to the Western world, which I know is quite difficult for people to admit

There *was* an article on Asianews about 45,000 people needing their ashes collected in Wuhan. Their website has been taken down.

[Yevrah]

I keep hearing this line that the Chinese are lying about their deaths without any evidence at all, besides the fact that they're the CCP. It might just be the case that China did a relatively good job in dealing with the virus, in contrast to the Western world, which I know is quite difficult for people to admit

They'll have dealt without much better than anyone in the West, there's no doubt about that. I would like to know what they actually did to do that though. 3,000 deaths is a staggeringly low figure for a country of their size.

[Kikó]

They turned off free movement. But properly.

[Shindig]

We also don't know what measures they were taking during that six week spell before they admitted there was an outbreak. They could've been clamping down much sooner than the official lockdown of Wuhan.

[Magic]

You have seen some of the housing in China? Where people are crammed much more tightly than over here. No chance they aren't hiding massive numbers.

[Manc]

Social distancing as a term needs to completely fuck off.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If it was tearing up Shangahi, Beijing, Guangzhou etc, we would know about it regardless of what the commies said.

Hubei did get absolutely rinsed by it for a period and Hubei does have a population of 58.5 million (akin to a large European country such as us, France or Italy), so it's not like they kept it contained in Daventry. If their deaths there were 50,000 instead of the 3,000 claimed it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. It might be possible that by locking down Hubei and keeping it in there, they have merely delayed its arrival in other provinces rather than killing it.

[Kikó]

1243615037111119875

[Giggles]

If it was tearing up Shangahi, Beijing, Guangzhou etc, we would know about it regardless of what the commies said.

Hubei did get absolutely rinsed by it for a period and Hubei does have a population of 58.5 million (akin to a large European country such as us, France or Italy), so it's not like they kept it contained in Daventry. If their deaths there were 50,000 instead of the 3,000 claimed it wouldn't be that much of a stretch. It might be possible that by locking down Hubei and keeping it in there, they have merely delayed its arrival in other provinces rather than killing it.

If they lock it down Chinese style then they won’t be delaying anything. It won’t get out.

[Mellberg]

European countries are counting deaths from Corona as those who tested positive but would have died anyway from something else.

Count the immortal only. Death count stays at zero. I like it. Move along, nothing to see.

[Magic]

What is "Chinese style"? Think you give them too much credit. They're belligerent, stupid humans like the rest of us.

[Giggles]

What is "Chinese style"? Think you give them too much credit. They're belligerent, stupid humans like the rest of us.

They’ll crack skulls if needs be.

[Boydy]

Really got my hopes up. I suppose 8 hrs was enough for those slots to get taken up.

Think the new ones become available at midnight so check after that.

[Lofty]

One of my neighbours just went round leaving chocolate on everyone's doorstep. Kind gesture or infection attempt, you decide.

[Yevrah]

My suspicion is they left people in their homes to die.

[Waffdon]

Ive never dreamed of a nice cold pint more so than I am right now. Fuck

[Spikey M]

Two things:

The chonkers are lying MASSIVELY about their death toll.

European countries are counting deaths from Corona as those who tested positive but would have died anyway from something else.

On the 2nd point, what else are they meant to do?

Cause of Death: MURDER... but, look at those cholesterol levels. Stick it down as heart disease.

[randomlegend]

Why do doctors and medical staff seem to die more? Is that just skewed reporting or is it because of exhaustion or what.

There's a theory the increased exposure means a higher viral load and so worse illness, but I don't think it's really proven.

[Lee]

We had a few drinks and a takeaway with the brother and sister in law last night via Zoom. It worked quite well, really. In a way it was better as there was none of that awkward “we’re knackered now how early can we leave without appearing rude” nonsense.

[Kikó]

Agree with that. I'm logging off zoom is much easier than waiting for people to leave.

[Spikey M]

:face:

[Spikey M]

The perfect time to avoid inlaws and you're setting up conference calls. Come on lad.

[Lee]

The perfect time to avoid inlaws and you're setting up conference calls. Come on lad.

I quite like mine.

I was going to do the same with my parents today but I’ve decided I’ll pop up tomorrow and just talk to them over the garden gate while they stand at the back door. It will be nice to see them in person and it gets me out.

[Don]

It's a very very slippery slope when you start comparing that shit favourably to actual human contact.

[SincereTheRebel]

Those Danes are working
https://www.thelocal.dk/20200313/denmark-passes-far-reaching-emergency-coronavirus-law

[Lee]

There’s not much choice until the summer at the earliest.

It will be glorious if we get to the point that people we like seeing (and us) have had it so we can do some things as normal.

[Shindig]

My suspicion is they left people in their homes to die.

Or they recorded a lot of the early batch as pneumonia deaths.

[Yevrah]

I had a pub session on Zoom last night and while it wasn't as bad as I expected it sure as shit is no substitute for the real thing.

[Giggles]

I had a pub session on Zoom last night and while it wasn't as bad as I expected it sure as shit is no substitute for the real thing.

I hope you don’t experience the horror looking back at it like I had.

Unless you did it with people you know. The one I did was with strangers and it’s a very very sad thing to do.


.

[Lee]

Yeah it won’t replicate the pub experience. If you’re just going around somebody’s house eating, drinking and chatting then you’re not losing too much though. It’s not a way of living forever but it will get us through the next however many months.

[Waffdon]

I had a pub session on Zoom last night and while it wasn't as bad as I expected it sure as shit is no substitute for the real thing.

What pint you will order when they reopen

[Kikó]

dunno wat bout u

[Giggles]

Stella m8.

[mo]

Few of us used Whatsapp video call to 'get together' the other night, but people have been banging on about this House Party app so will try that next time. Have avoided Zoom for work or anything.

[Giggles]

For something that everyone seems to be using all of a sudden, I didn’t find Zoom great at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It will just be this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouYKeeTz7Yw

[Yevrah]

I did it with people I know.

As for my first pint out. Not sure yet. Just want a pint.

[Lee]

We wouldn’t have been to a pub in the time since they shut anyway and yet I’m desperate to go to one now.

[randomlegend]

https://i.redd.it/sdmlhw7spcp41.jpg

:D

[Magic]

For something that everyone seems to be using all of a sudden, I didn’t find Zoom great at all.

Everyone was using that anyway, and BlueJeans.

[Giggles]

Must be a work thing. Zoom is definitely like that rather than something someone would use in their daily life.

[Revolution]

There *was* an article on Asianews about 45,000 people needing their ashes collected in Wuhan. Their website has been taken down.

The asiannews site always seems dodgy af to me. Wouldnt be at all surprised if it was owned by America as a propaganda machine.

Edit: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/asiannews-it/

[Waffdon]

dunno wat bout u

Fk knows m8, just bought some of the new MD 20/20 for tonight tho and all I right wit the world again xxx

[Magic]

I just got a pair of Air Maxs for 45 quid. :drool:

[SincereTheRebel]

I just got a pair of Air Maxs for 45 quid. :drool:

90s, 95s or 97s?

[Giggles]

I just got a pair of Air Maxs for 45 quid. :drool:

Why were you out shopping? And when did you turn 18?

[Vercetti]

Already exploiting those new Amazon contacts. :drool:

[Magic]

90s, 95s or 97s?

Axis. :D

[Kikó]

Fk knows m8, just bought some of the new MD 20/20 for tonight tho and all I right wit the world again xxx

Ken.

[Boydy]

Who is Revolution?

If you're gonna come crawling back at least use your normal name. Who's this Don cunt too? What a stupid name.

[Giggles]

Who is Revolution?

If you're gonna come crawling back at least use your normal name. Who's this Don cunt too? What a stupid name.

Don is Taz after turning into a full on pussy.

No idea on the first one.

[Don]

It's been over an hour since I've had a barrage of tweets about the effects of Covid-19 on the leprechaun lobbing championships. Shut your fucking pie-hole and give the people what they want to see.

[Giggles]

It's been over an hour since I've had a barrage of tweets about the effects of Covid-19 on the leprechaun lobbing championships. Shut your fucking pie-hole and give the people what they want to see.

See Boydy?

Though that’s the biggest show of spine he’s had in a fortnight. Progress.

[Boydy]

I know Don is Taz. I just wanted to mock his name change again.

:henn0rz:

I do want to know who Revolution is though.

[Magic]

LR obv.

[Don]

Giggles at some point during the next fortnight:

"I've seen a few mentions of it now but what's this corinavirus thing everyone is talking about?"

[Giggles]

Giggles at some point during the next fortnight:

"I've seen a few mentions of it now but what's this corinavirus thing everyone is talking about?"

More backbone. Unfunny backbone, but maybe Taz is alive somewhere inside this snivelling rodent after all.

[Boydy]

LR obv.
Ah yeah, that makes sense. Cheers.

[Giggles]

Ah yeah, that makes sense. Cheers.

Was he the one who pleaded to be banned?

[Lewis]

I am genuinely surprised that GS hasn't re-surfaced. Especially if wanking through it isn't an option.

[Don]

Fuck sake that typo's really damaged the impact of that because I'm tellin ya now, that's a zinger tower burger meal by any definition.

[Magic]

Can you imagine Pavel at this moment in time. Hopefully he's topped himself by now.

[Shindig]

I am genuinely surprised that GS hasn't re-surfaced. Especially if wanking through it isn't an option.

He probably died in London.

[Giggles]

He probably died in London.

Can only hope.

[Lee]

260 today. Fucking hell.

[Don]

Nah GS is still doing well, he's actually in the process of some match-making thing his Auntie has instigated so fingers crossed the cherry goes pop soon.

The Group is holding one of those gay virtual calls if anyone is interested in some banter (on zengit so no app download required), link should go directly to the room.

Currently just me, Kiko, Sama, Benny and Cearles but GS is headed in soon after he showers.

https://external-room.zeng.it/vxPXEGgL4v8mCGw06IFGsmJNtqWQg-z60xQQ79dHKPY.auto=webp&2ea2cb9f (https://sd.keepcalms.com/i/keep-calm-cos-you-are-a-melt.png)

[Shindig]

Oof. Cuomo's last address mentioned how patients were being on ventilators for several weeks. You've got to imagine those are the people already beyond saving.

[Yevrah]

260 today. Fucking hell.

Over 800 for Spain too. There's no Italy factor, it's going to ruin the old, infirm and a few other unlucky people everywhere it goes.

[Magic]

260 today. Fucking hell.

Which form of reporting have these figures been pulled from?

[Waffdon]

260 more deaths. Here we goooo

[Yevrah]

Oof. Cuomo's last address mentioned how patients were being on ventilators for several weeks. You've got to imagine those are the people already beyond saving.

It's sketchy, but I'm sure I saw an interview with an Italian doctor saying that once you're on one he hasn't seen anyone get off. That was a couple of weeks ago mind.

[Revolution]

Was he the one who pleaded to be banned?

Yeh I've never been the most mentally stable person. Dont take a fucking brain surgeon to pick up on that.

[Giggles]

I don’t believe 99% of all the stories either way about this.

[Giggles]

Yeh I've never been the most mentally stable person. Dont take a fucking brain surgeon to pick up on that.

Why come back then? Things going better?

[Revolution]

Why come back then? Things going better?

I left because my mrs had a stalker. Left all social media etc. Did keep my account on a leeds forum as I had never shared anything personal unlike on here.

In the end it turned out to be a work colleague. But I just never had the time or even really thought about this place.

To be completely honest I just came back cos I'm bored as fuck.

[SincereTheRebel]

Axis. :D

That is a foul

[Kikó]

Nah GS is still doing well, he's actually in the process of some match-making thing his Auntie has instigated so fingers crossed the cherry goes pop soon.

The Group is holding one of those gay virtual calls if anyone is interested in some banter (on zengit so no app download required), link should go directly to the room.

Currently just me, Kiko, Sama, Benny and Cearles but GS is headed in soon after he showers.

https://external-room.zeng.it/vxPXEGgL4v8mCGw06IFGsmJNtqWQg-z60xQQ79dHKPY.auto=webp&2ea2cb9f (https://sd.keepcalms.com/i/keep-calm-cos-you-are-a-melt.png)

😅 Couldn't even handle the group and had to leave.

(The call is true, mind)

[Jimmy Floyd]

I really don't want to leave the flat for any reason at the moment. Office on Monday and Tuesday :drool:

[Giggles]

I left because my mrs had a stalker. Left all social media etc. Did keep my account on a leeds forum as I had never shared anything personal unlike on here.

In the end it turned out to be a work colleague. But I just never had the time or even really thought about this place.

To be completely honest I just came back cos I'm bored as fuck.

Yeah I’d say that’s why most are back. Fuck all else to do. Did the perv get done for the stalking?

[Revolution]

Yeah I’d say that’s why most are back. Fuck all else to do. Did the perv get done for the stalking?

He got sacked. Turned out he had even managed to get hold of our address and number on the work system. So that's nice.

[Don]

�� Couldn't even handle the group and had to leave.

(The call is true, mind)

Yeah, Lewis scared him off so no GS tonight folks but Duke is in.