Coronavirus Death Thread

[Shindig]

It's fine but I do feel great taking it off.

[niko_cee]

Did they provide the usual mid flight meal, booze, etc?

No, although it was only a short flight, thankfully. There is normally a drinks service but that's gone in the 'new normal'.

[Lewis]

I forget I've even got one on within five minutes, you lot are the biggest bunch of fannies I've ever seen.

You're obviously going to notice less when you walk about in permanent discomfort.

[niko_cee]

Is that from a channel island to England? There’s barely time to say anything in that space of time anyway.

:D

Yeah. I think it's more you don't realise how much communication is non-verbal until half your face is cordoned off. Particularly when you are trying to admonish errant 5 year olds from the row behind.

I wasn't that bothered by the mask, it sort of hurt on the nose after a while but that's probably a personal defect, I didn't find it stifling really even though it's a million degrees. It's just the overall experience was worse than I thought it would be.

[Dquincy]

It's fine but I do feel great taking it off.
Yes, a bit like wearing a condom. *

On your cock, not face.

[Don]

It's not really about the personal comfort for me, it's more the fact I can't smile and nor can the gash who now thinks she's just got a weird Islamic pervert looking at her as opposed to a well-adjusted wildly successful Aryan.

No, but seriously, smiling is massive for the world, I don't want to live in a world where that's taken away for the benefit of your fat diabetic gran.

[Ian]

Yes, a bit like wearing a condom. *

On your cock, not face.

That's not where you're supposed to wear the mask, silly.

[Dquincy]

Both spit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I look better with a mask on. Only thing I have going for me in the looks department are the eyes. Keep them forever, I say - you can't be too careful.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/11/uk-consumer-spending-approaches-levels-last-seen-before-coronavirus

The state of them. I'd fucking set up a table and eat steak infront of the foodbank queues for the next 12 months if I could stomach dirty meat that often.

Still possibly less stupid than this whole affair though:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/11/covid-and-sex-charity-issues-guidance-on-reducing-infection-risk

[Queenslander]

I have started wearing a mask in Coles which has been fine but I have noticed that my shark eyes really pop so that has been nice bonus.

[John Arne]

We seem to have thankfully roped in the second wave. Deaths up to 11, however all had underlying conditions, and only 2 under 60.

No new community cases yesterday, and just 6 the day before all linked to the same hospital in Danang.

#Nguyening

[Dquincy]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/11/uk-consumer-spending-approaches-levels-last-seen-before-coronavirus

The state of them. I'd fucking set up a table and eat steak infront of the foodbank queues for the next 12 months if I could stomach dirty meat that often.

Still possibly less stupid than this whole affair though:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/11/covid-and-sex-charity-issues-guidance-on-reducing-infection-risk
My wife 'convinced' me last night to spend £500 on new furniture and then pay over 1k for a holiday. I'm on reduced salary and the economy is in recession. I'm such a baller (and/or nobhead).

[Queenslander]

New Zealand with 4 new cases.



New Zealand is no longer virus free, with four cases confirmed from one household in Auckland.

The cases have no known source and authorities are working to figure out where the family contracted coronavirus


https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/new-zealand-coronavirus-four-cases-confirmed-in-one-household/news-story/cb201f2e0cefbe75908ebda10f7507bf

[hfswjyr]

Based on those 4 cases, and seeing as they weren't able to trace it to a source, the Prime Minister has just announced Auckland (pop 1M) will go back into lockdown tomorrow.

Here we go again.

Edit* Got my Were/Weren't mixed up...

[Jimmy Floyd]

This isn't going to work, peeps. You can't go into pink alert every time someone gets ill. You won't keep it out forever. Over here there's a hundred times that many cases and we've found a way to live reasonably fulfilling lives alongside it.

[Yevrah]

Indeed. Locking down 1m people over 4 cases is complete and utter madness. Where is the end game in any of any of that?

We don't value life anywhere near as much as this normally and if we did, basic fundamental every day things, such as cars, or alcohol, or food that is bad for you, wouldn't be allowed.

[Spikey M]

It's too politicised to take common sense steps now.

[Dquincy]

Indeed. Locking down 1m people over 4 cases is complete and utter madness. Where is the end game in any of any of that?

We don't value life anywhere near as much as this normally and if we did, basic fundamental every day things, such as cars, or alcohol, or food that is bad for you, wouldn't be allowed.

Hmmm, those things you listed provide revenue, enjoyment, economical gain. CV-19 does not.

What do people make of Alyssa Milano claiming CV-19 has made her hair start falling out?

[Spikey M]

It does seem to fuck with some peoples skin / nerves, so I guess it wouldn't be too surprising. I hope it happens to Lewis.

[Lofty]

I have an Arsenal one coming from here: https://www.bootio.co.uk

They had an England one but seems to have gone, the Ciao Italia 90 one is superb.

[Don]

I have an Arsenal one coming from here: https://www.bootio.co.uk

They had an England one but seems to have gone, the Ciao Italia 90 one is superb.

Fml.

[Yevrah]

Hmmm, those things you listed provide revenue, enjoyment, economical gain. CV-19 does not.

But locking down 1m people removes revenue, enjoyment and economical gain.

If we're locking down 1m to save lives and hurting the economy in the process, why aren't we doing likewise by binning McDonald's off?

[Giggles]

This isn't going to work, peeps. You can't go into pink alert every time someone gets ill. You won't keep it out forever. Over here there's a hundred times that many cases and we've found a way to live reasonably fulfilling lives alongside it.

Would apologising to you for the inconvenience help?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not everyone is as miserable a fuck as you are. In fact, almost no one is.

[Dquincy]

Well, I feel uncomfortable now.

[Giggles]

Not everyone is as miserable a fuck as you are. In fact, almost no one is.

You're quite easily coming across as one lately. Poor diddums has to wear a mask and can't go to the pub and is all cranky.

[Dquincy]

Close thread. It's over.

Russia becomes first country to approve CV-19 vaccine

http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-russia-becomes-first-country-to-approve-covid-19-vaccine-but-experts-have-doubts-12047041

[Spikey M]

I'm no Anti-Vaxxer but you couldn't pay me to take that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A rushed vaccine from Russia? Pass.

[Dquincy]

He's pumped it in his daughter apparently. And he's given her the vaccine. HEEYOOOOO

[bruhnaldo]

Oh so it's fucks like you that keep the "STEP SIS WALKS IN ON SILLY SURPRISE" bullshit on the front page of Phub every day.

[Dquincy]

Can anyone translate the above for me?

[Shindig]

"Ah, I propose you Sirs are manipulating Pornhub's first page through persistent skullduggery!"

[Dquincy]

:D

Sounds like someone has incest issues. Has uncle shared too many baths with you, Bruh?

[Spikey M]

Can anyone translate the above for me?

He's from Florida and incest is no lauging matter over there.

[Giggles]

He's from Florida and incest is no lauging matter over there.

It’s more than that. It’s a way of life.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well incest is better than having to watch the Miami Dolphins or going to Disney World yet again.

[Dquincy]

Has Uncle been touching your everglades, Bruce?

Don't make sense!!...but it's still sereally funny...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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lol.

[Queenslander]

:lol:

[Dquincy]

I find it so strange for someone to get that worked up over other people wearing masks.

[Shindig]

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The jobs crisis kind of was inevitable, to be honest.

[Spikey M]

It's a good job the EU can bail us out.

[Manc]

I'm ready to level up.

[Spikey M]

I'm trying to work out whether the end of the financial universe is good or bad for debt collecting leeches like me.

[Shindig]

The last thing I want to do at the moment is see more work in front of me.

[Foe]

Shinners you need to appreciate how fortunate you are to be in a fixed hour job. You can zone out at 5pm when it’s finished (or you should).

Busy or not, if you work a rigid hourly system it’s fine.

I’ve a pal drilling a well who’s spent the last 2 months basically on call. Fucking bullshit.

Ps spikey definitely good news for long term employment, bad news for dealing with more dregs of society.

[Shindig]

I don't think you understand how fucked the DWP is by this.

[Lewis]

This re-count of the death toll is good stuff. It reduces the overall total by twelve per cent, but more importantly it brings recent figures right down, which will hopefully go some way towards reassuring some of the fannies making decisions about schools and what have you.

[Don]

Great effort to aftertime and pretend displaced mortality isn't a thing. Get the fuck outta here with your cheating.

[Queenslander]

New Zealand is up to 13 cases now. Not a chance they were clear of covid during the 100 days of back slapping...

Churr bro!

[Yevrah]

It does show though that's it's almost impossible to keep this thing out of a Western lifestyle country. If they can't manage it with their 12 people and remote status, no one else has a chance.

Which is why, again, we need a new plan that doesn't involve periodically shutting everything down in perpetuity.

[John Arne]

It does show though that's it's almost impossible to keep this thing out of a Western lifestyle country. If they can't manage it with their 12 people and remote status, no one else has a chance.

Which is why, again, we need a new plan that doesn't involve periodically shutting everything down in perpetuity.

To be fair, it's just until the vaccine is ready. Also worth remembering that life in NZ (and here in Vietnam) was completely normal for the 100 odd days prior. Day to day was back to pre-corona normality; sports, bars, domestic holidays etc, everything except for international travel. So yes, whilst another lock-down is annoying, it's a small blip that interrupts normal life (only in the cities involved). If we have to semi-lockdown for 2-3 weeks every 3 months from Feb-Dec, that's fine with me. If there was no vaccine in sight, I could understand the argument.

[Yevrah]

I'm still not convinced there is a vaccine in sight. It's not outlandish to say we may never get one either.

EDIT: And then you've got to get enough people to actually take it.

[Queenslander]

I reckon next year will be more of the same.

[Shindig]

Everyone's in the same boat of holding the tide back until the jab turns up. And East vs West doesn't matter. It's not like China made it vanish. They're pulling in 20 cases a day.

[Ian]

It'll be interesting to see if the UK is even more full of anti-vax weirdos than I would have assumed.

[Shindig]

If the Russian one backfires, they'll have fuel for that fire.

[Ian]

Not taking Russia at their word is common sense, not anti-vax.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Russians are well known for being utterly transparent when it comes to injecting substances, it'll be fine.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

One of my cousin's has decided to study in Brunel this year. For some reason he's come over really early (came last week) and today Wizzair have told him someone tested positive on his flight.

Will have to isolate for another few days and have a test booked today.

I think I'm fine though, it's been a week and I have no symptoms.

[Andy]

One of my cousin's has decided to study in Brunel this year. For some reason he's come over really early (came last week) and today Wizzair have told him someone tested positive on his flight.

Will have to isolate for another few days and have a test booked today.

I think I'm fine though, it's been a week and I have no symptoms.

Go and get tested.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Go and get tested.

It's booked (second line). Going in about 30 minutes.

I don't think I have it but I could be asymptomatic.

[Offshore Toon]

Stop typing and go and get tested! :mad:

[Andy]

It's booked (second line). Going in about 30 minutes.

I don't think I have it but I could be asymptomatic.

I somehow missed that whole line.

[niko_cee]

It sort of read like that's what his cousin was going to have to do.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pretty horrible tbh, thought I was going to vom.

[bruhnaldo]

Do they just do the deep penetration nasal bit for you guys?

[Offshore Toon]

The PCR test is total violation. Apparently it used to be worse at the beginning of COVID too. Proper brain tingler.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Do they just do the deep penetration nasal bit for you guys?

It was a self test and the instructions were to swab for 10 seconds where your tonsils are (or were in my case) on both sides of the throat and then for 10-15 seconds an inch up the nose.

Nose bit was uncomfortable but not too bad, the tonsil was horrible. Had a sore throat for just over an hour after.

[Mazuuurk]

Stop pretending, Mahow.

[Dquincy]

It's booked (second line). Going in about 30 minutes.

I don't think I have it but I could be asymptomatic.

When do you find out results?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

When do you find out results?

1-5 days although they say it's usually within 2.

[Shindig]

I'd rather get tested at a centre so I could at least know the person knew what they were doing.

[Dquincy]

1-5 days although they say it's usually within 2.

If things go south, can I do the eulogy?

[niko_cee]

Have we had a confirmed case on here yet?

Taz and his suspicions don't count.

[Dquincy]

Taz talks more shit than anyone who has ever been part of this board. And Taz, that's a compliment.

[Don]

Bought some athlete's foot treament to drown my feet and shoes in to see if I can keep my toes. It's got as bad as it's ever been last few days #survivorstories

[Giggles]

Taz talks more shit than anyone who has ever been part of this board. And Taz, that's a compliment.

He has a weird semi dramatic way of saying everything.

[Lewis]

I thought I had had it in February, but then I thought I couldn't have done because my mother was here during my symptoms and she never picked it up; but she had a right shitty dose of conventional flu last year, which could have given her a bit of resistance to it, so now I don't know. Whatever it was, I crushed it by stuffing my face, so the government obesity strategy is a con.

[Don]

Can confirm the mothers having full immunity hypothesis, I was basically at third base with mine during the height of it and nothing.

[Shindig]

There was a thing going round the office that might've been it but nobody came back positive. Although we have had someone on the sick for six month for 'Covid related reasons'. But it's not Covid, apparently. I figure if the office cough was Covid, we'd have at least one genuine hospital case.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I had a pretty bad flu in early March but I don't think it was Covid. I had different symptoms (muscle aches, runny nose, sore throat, cough and I was shivering) and no one near me caught it.

[Don]

On that note, I used to get ill every other week. Not a fucking thing since Feb. Whether it's the commute, the dirty ethnics in the office who don't wash their hands after cleaning their bumhole barehanded, me not licking the doorhandles of six bars a week or simply the lack of sleep deficiency, it's not been surprising but it remains one hell of a noticeable difference.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

On that note, I used to get ill every other week. Not a fucking thing since Feb. Whether it's the commute, the dirty ethnics in the office who don't wash their hands after cleaning their bumhole barehanded, me not licking the doorhandles of six bars a week or simply the lack of sleep deficiency, it's not been surprising but it remains one hell of a noticeable difference.

Yep, I think this is the longest spell I've ever had not being sick.

[Lewis]

I barely ever get ill me. The Chinese even got that woman to 12 Monkeys me on the plane back from Inverness to make sure of it, and all I had was a sweaty Saturday and a dry cough. I put it down to biting my nails.

[Dquincy]

Yep, I think this is the longest spell I've ever had not being sick.

All going to be fucked when lergy season comes about early winter.

[Shindig]

I'm barely ill as well. I put it down to my aggressive metabolism. I haven't had a cold for years.

[Dquincy]

He has a weird semi dramatic way of saying everything.
You're bang on. Like he's trying to be Russell Brand but in typed form.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I normally get colds for fun, not had a single one since bat flu entered the country in late Jan. Even withstood the nearest guy to me at work having a stinking one for two weeks recently. Might take the case to M. Poirot and see what he thinks.

[Don]

Dickheads, I'm right here, very rude of you two to bypass me like this.

[Dquincy]

:D Apologies. Much love.

[Josh]

Have we had a confirmed case on here yet?

Taz and his suspicions don't count.

I had the antibody test and it says I had it when I had suspicions. Although I've heard those tests aren't exactly reliable...

[Luca]

I had the antibody test and it says I had it when I had suspicions. Although I've heard those tests aren't exactly reliable...

Had we gone to Smithfield Hall for the derby we would have caught it for sure.

[Giggles]

You're bang on. Like he's trying to be Russell Brand but in typed form.

Stupid man bun and all.

[Spikey M]

There was a thing going round the office that might've been it but nobody came back positive. Although we have had someone on the sick for six month for 'Covid related reasons'. But it's not Covid, apparently. I figure if the office cough was Covid, we'd have at least one genuine hospital case.

if 'the office cough' was Covid, you wouldn't be calling it 'the office cough'. It may only hospitalise the vulnerable, but it still packs a punch you know about if you've got it.

[niko_cee]

Unless you're one of the many people who apparently have it and experience no symptoms.

[Giggles]

Have they found anything more concrete with the symptoms or is it still some or all of the dry cough/taste/smell/short breath?

[Shindig]

Chilblains turn up in kids and that's about it.

[Giggles]

What are they again? Like foot warts?

[Shindig]

Toes get red and swollen, basically. I'd show pictures but the people who have it as adults seem to have the most horrific toenails going.

[Giggles]

We'd always say we have chillblains here if you're freezing cold but I never knew what they actually were.

[Don]

Tiny blisters, mad itchy.

[Spikey M]

Unless you're one of the many people who apparently have it and experience no symptoms.

I believe a cough is a symptom. /sass

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mum and Sister have got their results back and they are negative. Still waiting for mine.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm also negative.

[Giggles]

Harsh. You can be chipper enough at times.

[Lewis]

Fucking LOL at all the people moaning about their holidays suddenly having a quarantine period whacked on the end of them. How could this happen? Why yes, the holiday was suspiciously cheap when we booked it three weeks ago, but...

[Jimmy Floyd]

I know people who are genuinely in a state of existential shock at the idea of not having at least one (if not two or three) foreign holidays this year.

[Ian]

It's a proper wanker attitude.

As if it's a basic human right that they're being deprived of.

[Reg]

Have we had a confirmed case on here yet?
I didn't have a test (wasn't available) but almost certain myself and family had it in late March. Main affects being obstruction in upper chest/throat which lasted a while and cough which lasted ages. Nothing dreadful.

How wildly different it affects people is pretty, well, wild.

[bruhnaldo]

I understand the sentiment but I tell ya coming here 5 days a week since COVID started has been a real fuckin bummer and I would really enjoy a holiday myself.

[Manc]

Get yourself to a cold and uninhabited part of the world.

[bruhnaldo]

My buddy took his family to a log cabin in the woods of North Carolina. Said it was so remote they had to use actual written directions because the GPS wouldn't pick them up. :drool:

I could really go for that or just go hide in like a hut on the coast of Costa Rica for a month.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Book a holiday if you want but don't be surprised if you have to quarantine though. You're traveling during a pandemic shit could change.

[bruhnaldo]

Am just daydreaming to be fair. I won't even visit friends cause I'm scared they'll get it from me and even if they didn't I'd feel responsible so my life has been like... the 4 walls of my room and driving to and from work.

I might try to socially distance at the beach tomorrow though.

[Shindig]

Part of me still wishes Trump held his travel ban back a week just so I could land in a 'stay at home' California. It would've been shit but a different kind of shit.

[Dquincy]

Harsh. You can be chipper enough at times.

:D

[Dquincy]

I know people who are genuinely in a state of existential shock at the idea of not having at least one (if not two or three) foreign holidays this year.

A colleague told me today "I think I'll cry if I have a 4th holiday cancelled this year". He's booked to go to Italy and Switzerland.

It also poses the question, what to do with a member of staff who knowingly books a holiday to a country where a 14 day quarantine is required upon return . If they can work at home remotely, then fine. But, if their job involves being out and about then can you stop them? Or perhaps you just put them on SSP on their return.

[Shindig]

We've got things in place for that. It's either unpaid or paid leave for the two weeks.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You could stop them taking leave at that time, presumably, if it was a country already known to be on the quarantine list.

[Andy]

Cant claim SSP for quarantine.

[Dquincy]

Paid leave it is then.

[Shindig]

I figure you can claim SSP if you test positive.

[niko_cee]

Tens of thousands of people fleeing La France for fear of having to quarantine must surely make a mockery of the concept in some way or other. Either these people are coming back with a high risk of spreading covid and so should be made to isolate, or they aren't, in which case why are people who get back at 5am rather than 4am having to do 2 weeks inside? Is there no aspect of this crisis the British government isn't going to make a hash of? I mean, even Trump closed the borders early doors whilst everyone lolled at him for being an isolationist nut. Have we got anything right?

[Giggles]

A colleague told me today "I think I'll cry if I have a 4th holiday cancelled this year". He's booked to go to Italy and Switzerland.

It also poses the question, what to do with a member of staff who knowingly books a holiday to a country where a 14 day quarantine is required upon return . If they can work at home remotely, then fine. But, if their job involves being out and about then can you stop them? Or perhaps you just put them on SSP on their return.

We’ve told anyone that travels that green lists or not, if they travel then it’s 2 weeks unpaid out of work when they get back. One of the mongs thought he could just “work from home” when he got back from a month in Poland even though he can’t do his job from home.

[Shindig]

Trump's ban still had a timer on it rather than the immediate response we should be putting together.

[Spikey M]

it's been the same the whole way through.

You want the pub lads? Yeah? You ready? Nice pint of Ale with the Lads?... Monday you cunts! Now? Fuck off. MONDAY!

Everything has to have a time delay with these weirdos.

[niko_cee]

Was the Spain quarantine trailed in any way? I thought that one just came in and pissed everyone off (hence why they've probably allowed this window). My other question is to what extent is any of this quarantine shit enforceable and to what extent will it be enforced? My impression would be it is very unlikely to be enforced in any meaningful way, which leads me to wonder why people rushing back now (who obviously have no concern for the wider implications of their own behaviour) don't just not quarantine when they come back from 2 weeks miserable camping next Wednesday (instead of 10 days miserable camping and a 14 hour drive tonight)?

[Shindig]

Next time Boris stands in front of a pedestal, he should use the slogan, "This disease can't queue or schedule, fucknuts."

[Dquincy]

Tens of thousands of people fleeing La France for fear of having to quarantine must surely make a mockery of the concept in some way or other. Either these people are coming back with a high risk of spreading covid and so should be made to isolate, or they aren't, in which case why are people who get back at 5am rather than 4am having to do 2 weeks inside? Is there no aspect of this crisis the British government isn't going to make a hash of? I mean, even Trump closed the borders early doors whilst everyone lolled at him for being an isolationist nut. Have we got anything right?
How would you have done it? Immediate quarantine at the time of making the statement?

[Spikey M]

How would you have done it? Immediate quarantine at the time of making the statement?

If you have a genuine concern that people are going to be coming back riddled, it's the sensible approach. If you don't have a genuine concern, then why bother?

[Manc]

People always come back from France riddled with one thing or another.

[Yevrah]

It's yet another fuck up.

And if I hear one more cunt whinge about their holiday being disrupted when they've clearly booked it after the pandemic started I may just take one for humanity.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I have an Aunt, an Uncle and a cousin driving back from Poland on Monday/Tuesday.

I believe that they don't have to quarantine as long as they don't get out of the car in the Netherlands, Belgium or France. It's about 4 and a half hours from the German/Dutch border to the Eurotunnel so it's doable.

[Queenslander]

Well done to Queensland Navy.

https://i.ibb.co/VQMtsgw/FB-IMG-1597458176449.jpg (https://ibb.co/BrTt9yn)

[John Arne]

Should've shot them.

Shoot first, ask questions later.

[Queenslander]

I agree. Sink everything investigate sometime in the future...

[niko_cee]

I love the idea of there being a Queensland Navy.

The HQ would have to be somewhere like Longreach.

[Queenslander]

I could imagine most of their time spent fishing the reefs.

[Offshore Toon]

Shoot first, ask questions later.
That's South Africa.

[Clunge]

Just read the above. I work in travel and there are a multitude of major issues with the UK's quarantine policy and/or how it's being enforced: 1. you have the Spain scenario where the sector is given 4/5 hours notice. When you're dealing with tens of thousands of passengers/bookings, wtaf are you expected to do?; 2. govt is leaking/trailing quarantine hints in the week, they assess the data on Thurs and generally make these announcements late on Thurs or on Fri for Saturday am. But Saturday is changeover day for the majority of package travel so you're doubly fucking two sets of passengers, those preparing to depart and those on the cusp of coming home; 3. the pacakge travel industry must be the only sector that, by law, has to operate as a loss-making endeavour during this due to its obligation to refund within 14 days. It means most businesses, travel agents, tour operators and airlines, can't furlough huge swathes of staff because they need them working to process refunds. It's a double hit - you're giving away all the capital you've built up (by law) while also not being able to take advance of one of the major reliefs the government is providing. Unlike many EU nations too, the govt here gave the sector no concessions at all on the refund situation. If, from the outset, the govt had come out and said 'we realise refunding nearly every forward booking you've got for the next six months in a fortnight is impossible so we'll extend the refund window from point of cancellation to refund having to be paid from 14 days to three months, while also guaranteeing that money is protected under the same protection schemes that are in place' then everything would be much less fucked.

In short, I don't really sympathise with anyone who chooses to travel in this and gets knobbled by quarantine. That, in the grand scheme of things, is not a big issue. But expecting thousands of businesses to be able to reprocess the plans of hundreds of thousands of clients at, sometimes, hours notice is a disgrace. And it could have so easily been avoided.

[Shindig]

I'd still argue the public's willingness to travel during this is the bigger problem. They know what could happen but still do it in droves. It's their decision to cancel or cut their holiday short.

[Kikó]

I don't see the issue with people traveling as long as they know the after effects (quarantine) or changing conditions. Anyone booking during this period shouldn't expect travel insurance to work when it comes to cancellations.

[Shindig]

When I cancelled back in March I did not expect to get my money back. Although, in my case, I physically couldn't land at my destination. In these circumstances, there's nothing to stop people from travelling to mainland Europe.

[Yevrah]

If we'd been doing this for years I could sort of understand, but it's been 5 months and the weather here has been glorious for most of that.

Anyone going abroad and then moaning about their plans being disrupted is an idiot. That said, the government could clearly be handling things better. The time delay in these things is fucking retarded.

[Yevrah]

And again, just going by the common sense approach, that there are a fuckton of countries that still won't let us in without having a ridiculously good reason (including most of the ones that seem to have a clue as to how to deal with this shit) just demonstrates that it's a silly time to be going away.

[Andy]

People are just desperate for things to be normal. If in summer 2021 we are still in the same boat I'd consider a week or two away in air bnb somewhere.

[Yevrah]

People are just desperate for things to be normal. If in summer 2021 we are still in the same boat I'd consider a week or two away in air bnb somewhere.

Course, and I get that, but by Summer 2021 we'll have been in this for nearly 18 months, so it's much more understandable.

[Giggles]

Hopefully they at least had their immunity food.


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[Don]

Last night was similiar scenes of carnage in my local. Weather meant everyone had to be cramped inside. If there was one infected party there, there's 50 today woth no means of tracking and tracing :drool:

[Yevrah]

Jesus Don. The government might be determined to ham fistedly carry on with some form of not normal life forever, but don't help spread the ammunition for them to do so.

[Spikey M]

Cases are on the rise (and have been for some time) but Southend Hospital has just discharged its last remaining Covid Patient. Considering we were in the top 20 places with the highest cases a short while ago, I am assuming this is a pretty widespread thing?

What gives? Are our new treatments that effective? If not what is it? Can we stop fucking around now?

[Yevrah]

I suspect it's because the increases we're seeing haven't been happening for long enough for it to convert into hispitalisations and the virus has already taken out a fair bit of the low hanging fruit, for want of a better expression.

[Shindig]

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/

Data up to 9th August.

[Spikey M]

Possibly, but we've had a pretty sustained level of new Covid cases for months now. To have hospitals with 0 patients seems odd.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

There are 930 people in hospital with Covid across the UK. 73 on Ventilators.

Well worth bankrupting the country over.

[Don]

Displaced mortality, as always. The hospitalisations rate for the virus is quite clearly similiar to that of cutting open avocados and there's no way they can cover the fact up any more :***)

[Shindig]

Mortality rate is low as well. I decided to see what 0.07% would come up with, seeing as that's the number the Koreans were mentioning early doors. That comes to 46,000 deaths for the UK.

Also, this https://uk.yahoo.com/news/hero-lockdown-forced-pay-300-212357182.html

Nobody's forcing you to do anything, mate.

[Dquincy]

Mortality rate is low as well. I decided to see what 0.07% would come up with, seeing as that's the number the Koreans were mentioning early doors. That comes to 46,000 deaths for the UK.

What is that 0.07% calculated against? All population or just those that we know have been infected with CV-19? Genuinely interested.

[Shindig]

Not a clue. I assume it's a mix of actual data and estimates. Like how the ONS calculate our infection numbers.

[Dquincy]

Not a clue. I assume it's a mix of actual data and estimates. Like how the ONS calculate our infection numbers.
Where did you read the 0.07%?

[Shindig]

Way back at the start of this thing. Something they derived from South Korea's numbers.

[Queenslander]

Surely we are going to have dig up coal and iron ore untill the end of time to pay for these border closures?


The Queensland Premier says the state's border restrictions will not be relaxed until there are no cases of community transmission in New South Wales and Victoria.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-17/queensland-borders-to-stay-shut-coronavirus-nsw-victoria/12564532

[Giggles]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://m0.her.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/13144142/Garda-gif.gif

[Giggles]

https://m0.her.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/13144142/Garda-gif.gif

:drool:

It’s needed.

[Queenslander]

What is going on here? Looks like a scene out of Romper Stomper.

[Giggles]

The Gardaí doing good work. Can't remember what it was from though.

Hopefully leads to more of the same in house parties and pubs acting the fuck.


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[Ian]

Google suggests it was a protest over housing sales and then unless there's context I'm missing that is just a picture of a cunt smashing somebody who wasn't doing much other than "being present at a protest" with a baton.

[Giggles]

There should have been more heads cracked at those.

[Boydy]

The Gardaí doing good work. Can't remember what it was from though.


Probably evicting someone.

[Giggles]

Evicting is nearly impossible here.

[Lewis]

Just say you need the land for cows. That used to work.

[Dquincy]

Meanwhile...in Wuhan...

https://news.sky.com/video/share-12052377

[bruhnaldo]

Giggles you like your cops to beat the shit outta citizens or do you just think citizens can't do better unless they're beaten?

[Giggles]

Citizens should do as they’re bid.

[bruhnaldo]

At what point do we beat the shit out of citizens though my bad that was worded poorly

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The second they step out of line.

[Giggles]

No supporters allowed at any sporting event (was 200 people including players/staff last week), but:


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They really are trying to pin all this on sport.

[bruhnaldo]

:/ alright.

[Kikó]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/20/portugal-set-to-be-added-to-uk-covid-19-safe-travel-list?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Some scenes if quarantine is lifted before I get back to the UK.

[Lewis]

Probably why they're lifting it (let's be having you Giggles).

[Giggles]

Probably why they're lifting it (let's be having you Giggles).

I had thought about it at the time and all but everyone is on edge lately and I was afraid of a monster strop.

[Giggles]

Like really, how stupid do you have to be?


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[Lewis]

There wasn't a single kung flu death in English hospitals over the last twenty-four hour recording period. Let's have a full Wembley for the Charity Shield.

[Don]

My finances are restored, my values are refined, my vision is refocussed and I've rekindled my relationship with Giggles. The whorehouses are open, just let me get sweaty to some boop di bop beats amongst my people and let's praise all involved in this charade for what has been a tremendous 6 months.

[Dquincy]

There wasn't a single kung flu death in English hospitals over the last twenty-four hour recording period. Let's have a full Wembley for the Charity Shield.

:D Love Trump. 4 more years!!

[Shindig]

The US numbers are going down as well. Although independent sources say that's down to testing being cut back.

[Kikó]

Probably why they're lifting it (let's be having you Giggles).

The group moves in mysterious ways.

[Raoul Duke]

The US numbers are going down as well. Although independent sources say that's down to testing being cut back.

Weird that they started going down as soon as people started reporting the numbers to the Trump admin rather than the CDC. Probably just a coincidence

[Giggles]

Like really, how stupid do you have to be?


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The poisoned chalice. The government is only in place since June and he was the second Agriculture Minister after the first one lasted a month over some drink driving.


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[Ian]

Wait, do your politicians actually have to worry about consequences for their actions?

[Giggles]

It's only a fairly new thing that they do. He was gone about 5 minutes after that and I'd expect a few more heads to roll this morning as well.

Lots of talk it could take the government down altogether. If there hadn't been a couple of FG senators at the event too then I'd say they'd have taken the coalition down for definite.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/21/uk-cheap-food-could-fuel-covid-19-spread-says-who-envoy

Properly scraping the barrel now. Oh what, we want food and we want it cheap? Yet another clear sign of the Broken Tory Britain.

[Yevrah]

Hang on, wasn't David Nabarro rimming us a mere fortnight ago?

These people are ridiculous.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Marie Antoinette had her bonce sliced off for less.

[Lewis]

lol at the areas having their rules changed. They should just paper bag test from here.

[Shindig]

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/covid-testing-stanley-outbreak-durham-18803810

I wondered why the county's cases shot up. Meanwhile, the North West has a fifth of their 99 Covid patients on ventilators.

[phonics]

Hang on, wasn't David Nabarro rimming us a mere fortnight ago?

These people are ridiculous.

The guy from Janes Addiction? [/unai]

[Queenslander]

6 new cases overnight and I cant attend my local Rugby Clubs 1st Grade game today because of new restrictions. Former Wallaby captain Ben Mowen is their captain this season after returning from a solid career in France.

Seething.

I am pro jail time for everyone fucking up now. :mad:

[Don]

Welcome to the party, where's your smug pint now, huh?

[Queenslander]

Welcome to the party, where's your smug pint now, huh?

:D I do deserve that.

They're still fair game. Pubs are still open if they have covid safe plans same with live sport at the Gabba and Lang Park. Signing in or QI codes are the norm now though.

Everything else in regards to private gatherings is back 10 people indoors 30 people outdoors.

[Giggles]

This really isn’t going away :drool:


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[Jimmy Floyd]

Poor old golf getting a bad name from this, when it should be the masonic weirdo cults that are golf societies taking the hit.

[Giggles]

This is where you need a proper army that can roll in and start smashing skulls.


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[Lewis]

It is really unfortunate that the conspiracy mentals have been able to take ownership of being against lockdown more generally. You have the softer side of it who insist it isn't any different from seasonal flu, which okay mate it is but I can see why you make the point... And then all the way over there you get the divs who think Bill Gates something something cashless control society. This must be how it feels to make Legitimate Criticism[s] of Israel.

[Shindig]

Top banners.

[Giggles]

:cool:


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[Dquincy]

UK stats in last 7 days:

August 22 (GMT)
Updates
1,288 new cases and 18 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

21st
Updates
1,033 new cases and 2 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

20th
Updates
1,182 new cases and 6 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

19th
Updates
812 new cases and 16 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

18th
Updates
1,089 new cases and 12 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

17th
Updates
713 new cases and 3 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

16th
Updates
1,040 new cases and 5 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

[Spikey M]

The mortality rate is fuck all now. Can we just stop fucking about?

In other news, Phonics has been mugged off by Nicola Sturgeons Barmy Army.

[Baz]

Nah. I'm going to pubs on Monday and Friday but then let's lock it all back down after that plz.

[Don]

I imagine using same counting method for influenza and publishing them will make the uninformed rush the streets demanding heads roll (or just the collapse of all COVID related measures compliance).

[Shindig]

Is there much of a flu figure around August, like?

[Don]

Not a clue, just tried to read the weekly report on gov.uk in a hungover state and my brain melted.

[Spikey M]

Is there much of a flu figure around August, like?

Looking South of the Equator is probably the best way of doing it, but they're all irritatingly good at dealing with it.

[Shindig]

Not a clue, just tried to read the weekly report on gov.uk in a hungover state and my brain melted.

I've just had a peek. I didn't realise those reports outline how many Covid outbreaks there are in workplace, prison, hospital and healthcare settings. Care homes leading the charge.

[Pepe]

Some random student called me out for not wearing a mask. Outside. At 7 am. When there was no one. I told her to fuck off.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This masks outdoors stuff in forrin countries is baffling to me. If you think that's needed you're getting into culture wars territory.

[SvN]

My sister's in Melbourne and you can't leave the house without one.

[Pepe]

Here you are only required to wear masks indoors, and outdoors if social distancing is impossible. Some people just get a bit too righteous.

[Pepe]

Then again, their professors who are wearing face masks, face shields, latex gloves, and nurse scrubs to teach can't be helping.

Some are even trying to use disinfectant dispenser while wearing latex gloves, which apparently is causing them to malfunction. :harold:

[Don]

I've spent about £15 in the past week on masks through forgetting to have one on me at various times or simply losing mine. At least I am giving Mohammed some financial support whilst killing the planet.

[hfswjyr]

Mandatory on public transport here now. And "recommended" when going outside at certain alert levels.

As a bit of a minimalist, I hate having to carry the thing around and the whole process of putting it on and pulling it off again. Only had to do it twice so far, and it might just prevent me from ever leaving this apartment again.

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/24/nightclubs-propose-face-masks-and-bouncer-patrols-to-reopen-covid

The proposed measures :D

[Spikey M]

I find putting a mask on is far more manageable if you take an appropriate pre-workout supplement and warm up properly.

[Magic]

They're on about enforcing secondary school children to wear masks now in Scotland. :harold:

[Shindig]

The teachers will just pass it amongst themselves.


Hong Kong scientists report the first confirmed case of an apparently healthy patient being re-infected with Covid-19, four months after the first infection

Oxford was right, then.

[Boydy]

The teachers will just pass it amongst themselves.



Oxford was right, then.

Where'd you see that?

[Shindig]

BBC's live ticker thing. WHO have said not to draw conclusions from a single patient. They're right but if it does reinfect, it could be interesting to see what this is like second time around.

[bruhnaldo]

idk about "reinfect" but we def have had at least one patient here who was positive in may and is now back here admitted in august with it after once testing negative in between so.....

Not to freak anyone out or anything but yea if you or your family gets it don't just assume you're good.

[mugbull]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/aug/24/nightclubs-propose-face-masks-and-bouncer-patrols-to-reopen-covid

The proposed measures :D

The Germans (on top of their shit as always, what a nation) are doing an experiment to determine how risky concerts are by recruiting a bunch of volunteers to a concert and trying three different types of measures, from normal pre-corona fearlessness and elbow touching to full-on mask+distancing. That's the kind of science we need to be doing more of.

[Lofty]

Not sure anyone else is noting this but everyone I know who qualified for the business grants and now the bounce back loan seems to be spending it all on new cars and home improvements. Especially the bounce back loan with the government taking the hit on liability, seems like the sort of thing Johnson and co would've lolled out of town if Corbyn's nationalised bank was floating it as a policy. Sure that roostathon won't be an issue in the middle of a catastrophic recession though :moop:

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

I've barely looked in this thread for a while now but fuck me, I find any mention of coronavirus on the TV or radio gets instantly muted. Bring back all the Brexit talk.

There will be a massive swathe of people who won't be able to return to normal life without having a nervous breakdown.

[niko_cee]

The Germans (on top of their shit as always, what a nation) are doing an experiment to determine how risky concerts are by recruiting a bunch of volunteers to a concert and trying three different types of measures, from normal pre-corona fearlessness and elbow touching to full-on mask+distancing. That's the kind of science we need to be doing more of.

I think all three models have mask wearing but yeah, it's a quality thing to be doing.

Hopefully a shit load of the volunteers don't die.

[Shindig]

I fear they've ruined it a bit by using healthy volunteers. Unless they have a infected person that runs around all disorderly.

[Dquincy]

This masks outdoors stuff in forrin countries is baffling to me. If you think that's needed you're getting into culture wars territory.
Best ones are people wearing masks in their cars without anyone else in the car.

[Queenslander]

Im wearing a mask in ride share and shops now and people avoid me like Im the local rapist. In East Brisbane the only people who are wearing them are myself, most young uni types and the Japanese.

[Pepe]

The Germans (on top of their shit as always, what a nation) are doing an experiment to determine how risky concerts are by recruiting a bunch of volunteers to a concert and trying three different types of measures, from normal pre-corona fearlessness and elbow touching to full-on mask+distancing. That's the kind of science we need to be doing more of.

Everyone has tested negative beforehand.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53892856

A Florida taxi driver, who believed false claims that coronavirus was a hoax, has lost his wife to Covid-19.

Brian Lee Hitchens and his wife, Erin, had read claims online that the virus was fabricated, linked to 5G or similar to the flu.

The couple didn't follow health guidance or seek help when they fell ill in early May. Brian recovered but his 46-year-old wife became critically ill and died this month from heart problems linked to the virus.

[Magic]

So she didn't die from the virus. :harold:

[Kikó]

Polio eradicated from Africa. Cheers WHO.

[Shindig]

Wild Polio should be someone's rap name.

[mugbull]

So she didn't die from the virus. :harold:

You're an enormous tard. What do you think viruses do, shoot you in the face?

[Magic]

You're an enormous tard. What do you think viruses do, shoot you in the face?

Kill you.

[Yevrah]

She died from the virus.

[Dquincy]

Sounds like she died from heart problems.

[mugbull]

When someone stabs you in the chest you tend to die from heart problems too

[niko_cee]

Also a virus death by UK standards if it happens within 28 days of a positive test.

[Magic]

Pretty sure cause of death is fatal stab wound to the heart.

How does it feel being wrong all the time Mokka?