Coronavirus Death Thread

[Spikey M]

Tragic Covid.

[randomlegend]

No it's pneumonia.

Covid can cause pneumonia.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wet blanket Magic is back.

He's probably just got the sniffles.

[Magic]

Covid can cause pneumonia.

I had bacterial tonsillitis, Dr House.

[randomlegend]

Bacterial tonsillitis on the other hand does not cause pneumonia.

[Spikey M]

:D

[Magic]

So it's just coincidence? Timeline is:

Feeling shit on Sunday (drinking)
Feeling shit on Monday (drinking and traveling)
Feeling shit on Tuesday (spewed after drinking and more traveling)
Feeling shit on Wednesday (stopped drinking as much but still traveling)
Feeling horrendous on Thursday (yellow shit in throat, start penicillin that evening)
Horrendous on Friday (cough and hard to breathe)
Horrendous on Saturday
Horrendous on Sunday (worst day hence hospital)

[Boydy]

Running to hospital with the sniffles. :happycry:

It's people like you that are the reason the NHS is struggling to cope.

[randomlegend]

It's probably possible idk I'm just being a dick. I've never seen it.

[Shindig]

Also, alcoholic. Just putting that out there.

[randomlegend]

What I have seen is covid causing tonsillitis (pus doesn't mean it's bacterial) and pneumonia

[Magic]

What I have seen is covid causing tonsillitis (pus doesn't mean it's bacterial) and pneumonia

I thought it did? The penicillin cleared it up, and cleared the way for my lungs to die.

[randomlegend]

That's just something GPs say so they can give you antibiotics and make you fuck off.

[Magic]

So did the covid cause my pneumonia last time

[randomlegend]

Yes. And it was covid that gubbed your jaw.

[Baz]

Someone my wife works with is an antivaxxer. She claimed to have an antibody test that told her she had the antibodies so she must have already had it and decided not to get the vaccine, and tell everyone her situation.

She now has covid and is really really ill. :harold:

[Spikey M]

In similar news, today we learnt that our resident "I don't need a vaccine, Covid is not dangerous for me" case is susceptible to regular bouts of Pneumonia.

[Magic]

I've lost my sense of taste and smell now. :baz:

Taz I'm still fighting the good fight. Delta ain't got nothing on me.

[randomlegend]

Having had two bouts of pneumonia by your late 20s/early 30s (I assume) is quite uncommon

[Don]

The case count going into overdrive in 2 weeks time thanks to tonight and Boris scrambling to put in clauses in tomorrow'a speech to a hungover nation :drool:

[Queenslander]

NSW has 18 people in ICU and 4 on ventilators.

Are you doing ok? ItalAussie

[ItalAussie]

NSW has 18 people in ICU and 4 on ventilators.

Are you doing ok? ItalAussie
Yeah. I'll all set for Lockdown Part 2. As long as my supermarket and coffee shop don't get got, I'll be ok. I'm mostly irked because I was supposed to be seeing family in Brisbane at the moment.

Another semester of online teaching though. It really is the worst. We try our best, but I feel genuinely sorry for the students who are - through no fault of their own - missing out on a valuable experience.

[Queenslander]

Brisbane has to be one of the most bullshit lucky Cities in the world. It has been in the community multiple times but it just disappears.

[ItalAussie]

Brisbane has to be one of the most bullshit lucky Cities in the world. It has been in the community multiple times but it just disappears.

It seems to pop up every time I go to Brisbane. :D

This time it beat me to the punch, and didn't let me get out of Sydney.

[Magic]

Positive lol.

About to send my no doubt positive child back to her mother for a week. :drool:

[Waffdon]

Were you doing all that drinking and spewing whilst looking after her?

[Magic]

No that was a work tour so not telling any of my customers.

Only got her on Saturday. She's going away with her mother and her new family for a week down south. :harold:

[Spikey M]

What is magnificent little scumbag you are.

[Magic]

:cool:

[7om]

You’re weird if you take delight in that.

[randomlegend]

Lol at you ending up going to hospital with covid pneumonia after all your bullshit.

[Spikey M]

It's one thing not caring about the rules, it's another to deliberately spread a virus - that has given you Pneumonia and killed 100,000 people in this country - amongst your family.

Imagine how your daughter would feel if she gets ill, passes it on to a family member and kills them.

Great parenting lad.

[Magic]

Yeah not gonna happen.

[Waffdon]

I still can’t believe Magic went to the hospital because he had Covid after all of this. Why would you even admit it on this board lol. Some boy

[randomlegend]

You've got to be a special kind of stupid to currently have covid pneumonia and still think it can't make young people ill (presuming that's what you mean by "not gonna happen")

[Magic]

I still can’t believe Magic went to the hospital because he had Covid after all of this. Why would you even admit it on this board lol. Some boy

I didn't they advised me to rule it out so they could treat the underlying problem I didn't just rock up to hospital.

[Magic]

I have told her obv. Now the real question is will she still take her away.

[niko_cee]

A new flavour of you might want to get tested love.

[Pepe]

Magic, you're something special.

[Lewis]

No that was a work tour so not telling any of my customers.

Only got her on Saturday. She's going away with her mother and her new family for a week down south. :harold:

:lol:

[Manc]

Does the new family include Van Damme light?

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/12/devastating-who-scientist-condemns-euro-2020-final

Devastating stuff.

[Magic]

In the closing stages of the match against Italy, the World Health Organization’s Covid-19 technical lead, Maria Van Kerkhove, tweeted: “Am I supposed to be enjoying watching transmission happening in front of my eyes?”

:D

[Magic]

Imagine looking at the world through those eyes. Fucking hell.

[Pepe]

That's amazing.

[Shindig]

You know, for all the spread this virus has given us, it's not measles levels of spread.

[7om]

Measles is mental. You only have to look at some snot-nosed kid with it and you’re infected.

[Shindig]

Aye, it's got an R0 of 8. Working in a Covid secure office now is madder then when I left it. There's barely anybody in but the one-way system (which I ignored on the way out because who else leaves at 6pm?) stays in effect. The temp check at reception is bizarre because security can't see it. Scouts honour, basically. Cleaning now involves a night time fogging. Clear your desks or you'll get a mouthful of dangerous chemicals in your morning coffee.

Looking forward to being back home next week.

[Pepe]

Cleaning surfaces. :harold:

[Magic]

My god I'm actually dying. Redemption.

[7om]

You bloody moron.

[Shindig]

So erm, John Arne died to this, right?

[Yevrah]

Er, what? I thought he was living it up in an open Vietnam a year ago?

[Spikey M]

Last active in May.

He's probably just in a Gulag. I'm sure he's fine.

[Reg]

Cleaning surfaces. :harold:
Decent article today on hygiene theatre and the lack of awareness about airborne spread: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/12/hygiene-theatre-how-excessive-cleaning-gives-us-a-false-sense-of-security

[Don]

I missed today's announcement and main coverage but what are all these non-mandatory guidance measures? Clubs are open but masks should be worn on the train?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57811067

:D

[Queenslander]

It seems to pop up every time I go to Brisbane. :D

This time it beat me to the punch, and didn't let me get out of Sydney.

:D

We need to build a wall at Coffs Harbour.

[Queenslander]

So erm, John Arne died to this, right?

They are in deep trouble for sure.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57798520

I would say 'Heads have gone' but I think their heads went a long time ago.

[Pepe]

So France is going all in with the Covid passports apparently. They've gotten a lot of juice out of that permanent stage of emergency.

[Yevrah]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57798520

I would say 'Heads have gone' but I think their heads went a long time ago.

I can and do walk faster than they’ve limited their treadmill speed to. The whole world has utterly lost it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

So France is going all in with the Covid passports apparently. They've gotten a lot of juice out of that permanent stage of emergency.

Manu not ruling out compulsory vaccination for the population is lol. Think it's just fraternité left standing if that goes through.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57798520

I would say 'Heads have gone' but I think their heads went a long time ago.

:D fucking WHAT?

[Yevrah]

And if South Korea can't keep it out, there is no hope of anyone getting close to achieving that.

[Raoul Duke]

RIP Gangnam Style

[Offshore Toon]

Got my negative test back after a month in London. This is the proof we needed that raves are safe.

[Lofty]

A lad at the pub I watched the football in tested positive yesterday, so that's nice.

[Dquincy]

Magic... :lol: You're amazing. :D These last two pages have been brilliant.

Please can you let us know how you're doing now?

Ps. I've had my 2nd jab today. Arm hurts like a bastard. Just like the first one did. Remember my 'friend' who was/is against the vaccine? Them/they asked me not to take the vaccine due to the the unknown risks. They have a point, but if it means I can go abroad on holiday so be it.

[7om]

I’m glad you overcame the voice in your head quincy. Good on you.

[Queenslander]

Sydney lolockdown extended for another 2 weeks.

I hope they send the military in when they inevitably introduce a curfew.

[Yevrah]

I’ve got my second one today and actually have plans this week so please don’t quadra-spaz me again.

[Raoul Duke]

2nd jab for me too today :cool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was walking past the vaccine centre yesterday and a rather delectable young man tried to literally drag me in off the street for a 2nd Pfizer if I had had my first before 18 May. Alas my first was 30 May so I am left a single-jabbed man, for some reason.

[Dquincy]

From Sky News this morning (not sure what their vaccination levels however) :


Netherlands cases increase by 500% in a week after reopening

In news that may not bode well for England, the Netherlands has seen a huge surge in cases after it scrapped nearly all remaining restrictions and reopened nightclubs in late June.

The government was forced to backtrack and reimpose restrictions, with Prime Minister Mark Rutte apologising and calling it an "error of judgement".

Nightclubs have been closed again until at least 13 August and bars will have to shut at midnight.

Nearly 52,000 people in the Netherlands tested positive for COVID-19 over the past week - increasing by more than 500%.

Officials said that of the infections that could be tracked to their source, 37% happened in a hospitality venue such as a bar or club.

Hospital admissions increased by 11%, or 60 COVID-19 patients, over the past week.

[Shindig]

64% one dose
38% two doses

We're banking big on natural immunity and vaccines flattening the curve. Or something.

[Spikey M]

The Clubs are going to produce mental numbers. Their target audience is pretty much entirely unvaccinated / newly single dosed. But they're also low risk.

We need to get away from thinking about Case numbers. We don't monitor how much Flu is going around and we don't spend time testing people to track variants like this either.

[Don]

From Sky News this morning (not sure what their vaccination levels however) :

500 people out of 17.3m people hospitalised and it's led to a govt backtrack and those articles. Soft shites gonna be soft.

I imagine they'll make the same u-turn here so my mission to milk it begins on Saturday 24th July and by Christ am I excited to catch it again.

[Luke Emia]

We need to get away from thinking about Case numbers. We don't monitor how much Flu is going around and we don't spend time testing people to track variants like this either.

To a degree but there comes a tipping point whereby even with far fewer percentage of people in hospital then it still hits the numbers of last year. Not sure if that’s 150k a day, 200k a day or it may be far higher but 1% of that many cases ending up in hospital starts becoming big numbers. What we don’t know is how many of the people going to hospital at the minute are just massive fannies and how many of them are actually ill.

[Dquincy]

I've also see figures from the ONS showing that the covid deaths are still higher in the vaccinated (double jabbed) compared to the unvaccinated.

This of course pours fuel onto the argument from people who do not want to get the vaccine. However, surely those ONS figures are more a reflection that the majority of double jabbed people are OAPs and the majority of the unvaccinated are the younger generation? And therefore at lower risk regardless. I'd like to see a comparison between the two for each age bracket.

[Yevrah]

64% one dose
38% two doses

We're banking big on natural immunity and vaccines flattening the curve. Or something.

Ok, how are we still only at 38% double dosed? That's nowhere near enough. SCIENCE was right, wasn't it. Jesus.

[Yevrah]

Autumn lockdown people. It's gonna be brill.

[Spikey M]

Rules question:

A girl in my daughters class was off school yesterday isolating because her brother has Covid. The girl has woken up with symptoms today and had a test.

Should my daughter be off school? Or does that only happen when they get the positive test back? OR does she not have to at all because the girl only got symptoms when already isolating (she was last in on Monday)?

I should know this but it's been a while and I can't remember. (Definite Alzheimers)

[randomlegend]

Is magic actually alright?

[Spikey M]

Strong no.

[randomlegend]

The Clubs are going to produce mental numbers. Their target audience is pretty much entirely unvaccinated / newly single dosed. But they're also low risk.

We need to get away from thinking about Case numbers. We don't monitor how much Flu is going around and we don't spend time testing people to track variants like this either.

I don't know the exact logistics of how it's done, but we must track flu variants to some degree because they alter which ones are in the jab each year depending on what's most prevalent.

[Spikey M]

I don't know the exact logistics of how it's done, but we must track flu variants to some degree because they alter which ones are in the jab each year depending on what's most prevalent.

I get that they monitor the strain going around etc, but they don't have everyone sticking things up their nose everytime they're ill to do so.

It just feels like we're not "learning to live with the virus" by constantly hunting cases of it down. You could monitor it just as well be testing the hospital admissions.

[7om]

Ok, how are we still only at 38% double dosed? That's nowhere near enough. SCIENCE was right, wasn't it. Jesus.

If you’re counting adults only we are at 87% one dose and 67% double dosed. If you count the whole population the numbers are 69% and 53%.

[Offshore Toon]

I haven't given a shit for a long time now, but there's definitely value in maintaining the statistics until we're sure it's over, which won't be until next summer at least.

[7om]

I've also see figures from the ONS showing that the covid deaths are still higher in the vaccinated (double jabbed) compared to the unvaccinated.

This of course pours fuel onto the argument from people who do not want to get the vaccine. However, surely those ONS figures are more a reflection that the majority of double jabbed people are OAPs and the majority of the unvaccinated are the younger generation? And therefore at lower risk regardless. I'd like to see a comparison between the two for each age bracket.

I don’t know what numbers you are referring to but pure death numbers from each demographic is not helpful. You need to be looking at case fatality rate to take into account the amount of older people who don’t become ill at all due to the vaccine.

[Yevrah]

If you’re counting adults only we are at 87% one dose and 67% double dosed. If you count the whole population the numbers are 69% and 53%.

So Shinners was/his numbers were wrong? Did seem very low.

[Dquincy]

Rules question:

A girl in my daughters class was off school yesterday isolating because her brother has Covid. The girl has woken up with symptoms today and had a test.

Should my daughter be off school? Or does that only happen when they get the positive test back? OR does she not have to at all because the girl only got symptoms when already isolating (she was last in on Monday)?

I should know this but it's been a while and I can't remember. (Definite Alzheimers)
Keep her in school unless told otherwise. You've got 6 weeks of entertaining her coming up, don't make it 8 weeks!

[Magic]

Ok this is like day whatever and I don't feel any better at all. The headache is the worst thing ever, much like concussion. Absolutely grotesque.

Brutal headache
No sense of taste or smell
Really sore throat
Lungs are collapsing
Fever
Cough

Further update:

Daughter has it and they've had to come home from their holiday after 1 day (:harold:)
They'll probably all have it now (:drool:)
Girlfriend has it bad even though she's had 2 vaccines, currently positive and boiling alive in bed
Dad and the family down there potentially have it
Mum and my step-dad potentially have it

What scenes.

[Kikó]

Ok, how are we still only at 38% double dosed? That's nowhere near enough. SCIENCE was right, wasn't it. Jesus.

https://s3.envato.com/files/224820249/p%206_00091.jpg

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think Shinners was quoting the Dutch numbers, not ours.

[Yevrah]

Panic over. SCIENCE is still shit.

They are moron for opening up with those (rookie) numbers mind.

[Raoul Duke]

The Dutch were too cavalier in removing restrictions and we're now being fucked by it. Plus most people here are idiots when it comes to taking precautions.

Magic getting fucked sideways by this is like the TTH version of when Trump got it.

[Spikey M]

Keep her in school unless told otherwise. You've got 6 weeks of entertaining her coming up, don't make it 8 weeks!

Oh there's no chance I take her out unless we're told to. Just trying to work out how likely it is.

[Don]

Magic :D

[Andrew]

Magic doing his best to kill off past and present family members.

Just had a quick glance at the Coronavirus Reddit threads and the scenes over there are glorious 🤤

[Don]

What we dealing with, you tease?

[Spikey M]

That's up there with a pictureless Shameful lustage submission. Link us to the scenes ffs.

[Yevrah]

The magic thing is unreal.

[Yevrah]

Get well soon buddy.

[Kikó]

Get well soon MJ.

My mate who I was sat next to at the pub just text me saying he has just tested positive. Thankfully the lateral flow on my side is negative and we're both double jabbed. Nightmare.

[Lewis]

Daughter has it and they've had to come home from their holiday after 1 day (:harold:)
They'll probably all have it now (:drool:)

:cool:

[Pepe]

:evictory:

[Dquincy]

Ok this is like day whatever and I don't feel any better at all. The headache is the worst thing ever, much like concussion. Absolutely grotesque.

Brutal headache
No sense of taste or smell
Really sore throat
Lungs are collapsing
Fever
Cough

Further update:

Daughter has it and they've had to come home from their holiday after 1 day (:harold:)
They'll probably all have it now (:drool:)
Girlfriend has it bad even though she's had 2 vaccines, currently positive and boiling alive in bed
Dad and the family down there potentially have it
Mum and my step-dad potentially have it

What scenes.

:D Amazing.

Have they let you go home from hospital, or have they moved you to the psychiatric ward?

Hope you get well soon.

[Dquincy]

To give a sense of perspective, ONS reporting flu deaths are far surpassing covid deaths currently. And that is with the flu death being below the 5 year average. Open the clubs.

https://i.ibb.co/qdqn6R2/Screenshot-20210714-112141-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/s2xP7FX)

[Kikó]

What is the difference between the blues? The clubs are open next week in case you missed it.

[niko_cee]

Thought the stat about 32 men dying every day from prostate cancer (1 ever 45 minutes) in the UK was interesting in the context low level covid deaths still featuring prominently in the news cycle.

[niko_cee]

What is the difference between the blues? The clubs are open next week in case you missed it.

I reckon light blue might be pneumonia and dark blue flu [on the second chart].

Does that average line of about 2000 a week since Jan 20 mean those two have outdone/matched covid in the same period?

[Dquincy]

What is the difference between the blues? The clubs are open next week in case you missed it.

Light blue is deaths where the disease was a contributing factor. The dark blue is deaths due to the disease.

[7om]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57836137


"People are still critically unwell with it - I cannot quite believe we're back at this stage again - it's really worrying."

We aren't back at 'this stage', are we? There's currently just under 3,000 in hospital. At the peak of the Christmas wave there were 38,000.


The hospital, in Stockton-on-Tees, currently has 22 Covid patients

Hardly sounds back-breaking, if I'm being honest.

[Kikó]

https://www.nth.nhs.uk/content/uploads/2018/09/PIL1031.1-Welcome-to-the-Critical-Care-Unit-FINAL-25.09.18-EB.pdf

According to that, they only have 17 ICU beds so it's pretty significant.

[niko_cee]

Don't only a small percentage of covid hospital admissions require that level of care though?

[Kikó]

TBF, the article says 5 of the 22 are in ICU so a third of all beds?

[Shindig]

Ok, how are we still only at 38% double dosed? That's nowhere near enough. SCIENCE was right, wasn't it. Jesus.

Those are the Dutch numbers. The post I was responding to was about the Dutch.

[Yevrah]

Sorry Shinners, gotcha.

[Queenslander]

Melolbourne is back in lockdown I reckon Brisbane won't be too far behind.

My first Seppo jab is next week. :cool:

[Lofty]

Anyone heard from ned the spread since his last post in here?

[Spikey M]

Who?

[Lofty]

MJ. My poor attempt at wit failing:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_(Scottish)

[Manc]

He'll be wanking over his daughter's corpse at this point.

[Magic]

UPDATE:

Daughter has confirmed positive. Der Untergang begins.

[Spikey M]

It's one thing not caring about the rules, it's another to deliberately spread a virus - that has given you Pneumonia and killed 100,000 people in this country - amongst your family.

Imagine how your daughter would feel if she gets ill, passes it on to a family member and kills them.

Great parenting lad.

Phase one complete.

[Kikó]

UPDATE:

Daughter has confirmed positive. Der Untergang begins.

I think RL knows about PIMS-TS.

[Magic]

Ok I think I'm dying now.

[mo]

:roflol:

[Mike]

Been sent home from work, someone I work with tested positive at lunch time, so that’s me done for the summer.
Ironically, I was away with the Y6 kids for the last 3 days at PGL, and normally they let you have a morning off the day after it but because we’re so short staffed from isolation we had to go in this morning, if they’d have kept it as normal I’d have been fine.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This isolation is an absolute mess. They need to make it so the double jabbed don't isolate, and soon.

[randomlegend]

Don't get me wrong, if I was middle-aged, or had underlying health issues (or was a Premier League virtue signaller) I'd get it. But I'm a peak condish 31 year old, so fuck that.


Ok I think I'm dying now.

.

[SvN]

Magic dying from COVID, and the screenshots of his posts that would end up in the Daily Mail, might just be the thing this board needs to get some new blood.

[SvN]

This isolation is an absolute mess. They need to make it so the double jabbed don't isolate, and soon.

It's already in the pipeline. August 16.

[Magic]

I'm 32 now, so fail on your part.

[randomlegend]

Boring.

Back to deaths, please.

.

[7om]

Are you in hospital, Magic?

[Magic]

No, I feel exactly the same as I have done for like 7 days. Now coughing up lumps of orange and bloody bogeys.

I'm going on a second round of antibiotics for my lungs, different type this time.

[Waffdon]

:lol:

50,000 new cases. Unreal scenes. I’m fairly sure 90% of folk have had it in Dundee now

[Spikey M]

Just got the text of doom. 10 days isolation for my daughter. She's also complaining of a sore throat.

90% sure it's not Covid as she was living with me when I had it and didn't catch it / have symptoms but still :moop:

[Magic]

I'll keep the ventilator warm for you, pinhead.

[Spikey M]

I've had both Covid (I was fine, pussy'ole) and a vaccine (because I'm not a mong).

[Waffdon]

Spikey :cool:

[Yevrah]

What actual criminal offence has been committed here?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57853164

[Ian]

I assume anybody who has access to the CCTV it's written into their contracts that they're be prosecuted if they release anything because it's confidential, etc.

[Yevrah]

So you could be prosecuted for whistle blowing?

[Ian]

I don't know the legalities of it. I assume the police take a different view of it if you're giving them proof of criminal wrongdoing rather than selling footage of Matt Hancock groping somebody to the Sun for profit.

[Spikey M]

The Government has an official "Whistle Blowing" department that you can approach as an employee, I believe.

Because there's no way that could be anything but impartial.

[Yevrah]

Indeed. If someone gets banged up for those stills being leaked it will not sit comfortably with me. It was in the public interest and was highlighting someone doing something they absolutely shouldn't have been.

[Lewis]

There would be a public interest test in any court case/tribunal for whistleblowing, but it could also be Official Secrets Act seeing as the camera was in his office, and then whoever leaked it and the company who provides the security could be in serious bother. You can't go revealing any old shit you dislike that takes place in private offices just because you happen to be on security that day.

[randomlegend]

I'm amazed anyone is surprised it's illegal to have leaked that footage. .

[Yevrah]

I'm amazed anyone is surprised it's illegal to have leaked that footage. .

Specifically, what law has been broken? If you can't answer that then your amazed state is moronic.

[niko_cee]

Official Secrets Act, probably, which I would imagine would be fairly sweeping in its purview over 'government material'.

[randomlegend]

Specifically, what law has been broken? If you can't answer that then your amazed state is moronic.

Alright mate, calm down. :D

There's plenty of things I (and you) know or strongly suspect are illegal without knowing the specific law. What specific law would you have broken if you took the eggs from a wild bird's nest?

I'd imagine the leaking of said footage falls under Data Protection/GDPR.

[Yevrah]

It sure as shit isn't GDPR. :D

My suspicions summed up by that post.

[randomlegend]

Well quite. I have zero fucking clue what laws cover what but if you'd asked me before if I thought doing that is illegal I'd have had no doubt at all that it is.

[Magic]

RL now an expert in law, I see.

[Spikey M]

:D

[7om]

When all the dust has settled someone should compile all the posts from this RL - Magic feud and stick it in the archive.

[Offshore Toon]

COVID has brought back a lot of TTH's fire. The board needs feuds.

[Shindig]

There would be a public interest test in any court case/tribunal for whistleblowing, but it could also be Official Secrets Act seeing as the camera was in his office, and then whoever leaked it and the company who provides the security could be in serious bother. You can't go revealing any old shit you dislike that takes place in private offices just because you happen to be on security that day.

Aye, the secrets act would cover it.

[Dquincy]

I've had both Covid (I was fine, pussy'ole) and a vaccine (because I'm not a mong).

What was your experience of it? Did you lose your taste and smell? Did you die?

[Yevrah]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-57855653

Amazing how it's gone from "only cranks would suggest it came from a lab" to "highly unlikely it did" to "we could really do with some more access".

Utterly stinks to high heaven. Also not on that the scientific community seems to have had little interest in establishing the truth. Presumably they're all absolutely shitting themselves and thinking about the 'greater good'.

[Spikey M]

What was your experience of it? Did you lose your taste and smell? Did you die?

Extremely mild. Bit of a cough, a headache and lethargic. I got very lucky.

[-james-]

The isolation rules are nutty at the moment. My mate has had covid in the last six months, has been double jabbed for 2 months, and has to stay home for ten days because someone he went to the gym with has tested positive.

The current plan seem to be based on it being fine if half the country gets covid. What about if half the country is locked in their bedrooms?

[Dquincy]

Extremely mild. Bit of a cough, a headache and lethargic. I got very lucky.

I for one am glad to hear it. The board would be a lesser place without you. Magic on the other hand...

[Dquincy]

Ps. I have all your symptoms right now but the lateral flow tests are negative so far.

[Yevrah]

It's rampant again, isn't it?

If I catch it before the immunity from my second jab kicks in I'll be a tad pissed off.

[Lewis]

Anyone not deleting the app now is either a tit or somebody who wants to skive work.

[Dquincy]

It's rampant again, isn't it?

If I catch it before the immunity from my second jab kicks in I'll be a tad pissed off.
Yep, we know much more people getting it this time round. I guess it's a consequence of people trying to live a more social life compared to the previous waves.

[Shindig]

It seems to be slowing down in town. I'm still stunned our side of the building didn't pull any positives. Maybe the students have all had it now.

[Yevrah]

Anyone not deleting the app now is either a tit or somebody who wants to skive work.

I've never had it, but a bar the other night wouldn't let me in at all without it, so in I did not go. The guy on the door was fucking loving it as well.

[SvN]

I've never had it, but a bar the other night wouldn't let me in at all without it, so in I did not go. The guy on the door was fucking loving it as well.
Just take a photo of the QR code like a normal person.

[Yevrah]

Just take a photo of the QR code like a normal person.

People doing that are so lame. If you don't want the app at least have the balls to own that decision.

Wouldn't have worked with this chap anyway, he wanted to see proof. A proper power trip wanker.

[Offshore Toon]

Nah, taking a picture is the best option. The lame thing would be thinking you have balls for 'owning' something like that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It will slow down in about a week once the Euro final snogging orgies have washed through the system.

It is very lol that the news is consumed by a totally bogus race row about footballers while this happens. Heads have well and truly gone.

[Yevrah]

It's proper child-like behaviour. "I don't like the rules so I'm going to pretend I've done it."

Not to mention the fact that some of the people doing it will have spread COVID.

[Yevrah]

It is very lol that the news is consumed by a totally bogus race row about footballers while this happens. Heads have well and truly.gone.

Is it, I thought we'd comfortably established by now that race issues > COVID? Not sure it's bogus either, in that I'd be staggered if they were lying about getting racially abused on Twitter.

[Offshore Toon]

It's proper child-like behaviour. "I don't like the rules so I'm going to pretend I've done it."

Not to mention the fact that some of the people doing it will have spread COVID.
It is a bit, yeah, but that's where we are. I got told to isolate after somebody on my flight last month had COVID, and my mate also got the alert despite us being 8 rows apart.

I had the same last year flying back to Jersey and was told the person was within 1.5m of me. I didn't get COVID then, and odds are the person this time wasn't as close as that so I just told people who I had plans to meet with and most were still comfortable meeting.

I didn't get COVID and I don't believe half a plane isolated for 10 days when most would be going on holiday. Its all just ridiculous.

[Shindig]

At the same time, you can't really be precise about it. Covid skips households (and people within it) as it pleases. My approach would be, if you're pinged, to test regularly rather than isolate.

[Spikey M]

It's proper child-like behaviour. "I don't like the rules so I'm going to pretend I've done it."

Not to mention the fact that some of the people doing it will have spread COVID.

How is it child like? It's a pathetic rule, but it's one we have to follow if we want any semblance of a normal life.

I want a normal life. I also don't want to have to isolate for 10 days when I have both had Covid and the vaccine.

So I take a photo and pretend it's the app. Why not? What is to be gained by refusing to get the app and storming off in a huff? The geezer on the door doesn't make the rules.

Also, isn't trying to go to the pub without the app, then walking away when you can't get in the exact same thing? You were still hoping to avoid getting tracked.

[Reg]

It is a bit, yeah, but that's where we are. I got told to isolate after somebody on my flight last month had COVID, and my mate also got the alert despite us being 8 rows apart.

I had the same last year flying back to Jersey and was told the person was within 1.5m of me. I didn't get COVID then, and odds are the person this time wasn't as close as that so I just told people who I had plans to meet with and most were still comfortable meeting.

I didn't get COVID and I don't believe half a plane isolated for 10 days when most would be going on holiday. Its all just ridiculous.
Why would being 8 rows apart be important?

[Spikey M]

Why would being 8 rows apart be important?

You would have to go some to fit 8 rows within 3 metres.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My Sister's main carer was identified as a close contact of someone who tested positive. She took a lateral flow which came back positive (she also has 2 sons both of which tested negative).

I had a lateral flow yesterday but it came back negative (I only spent 5-10 minutes with my sister since the close contact though so it was to be expected), we're waiting to see the results of the carers PCR test to see what happens next.

My Mum also took a lateral flow which came back negative (but she spent hours with my sister since the contact) but we haven't tested my sister yet. Largely because she is one of those that is really cautious about the whole thing and my Mum doesn't want her to worry unless she has to.

Strangely I did feel a little ill last night and couldn't sleep but I think it was mild food poisoning because my stomach was all over the shop and I felt nauseous.

[Offshore Toon]

Why would being 8 rows apart be important?
Like Spikey said, it covers a good enough distance that I felt comfortable sacking it off. I was also in an aisle seat and not sat next to anyone. To isolate in that scenario would be mental, especially after not catching it last year despite being sat on a full flight and, most likely, much closer to the positive case.

[Dquincy]

People doing that are so lame. If you don't want the app at least have the balls to own that decision.


Cutting nose. Spite face.

I heard that if you check into a restaurant, it logs you there until midnight regardless of the time you attended. If true, that's pretty mental.

[Queenslander]

ItalAussie

Is Gladys still the darling of Sydney? From the outside looking in she appears to be the Queen of Fake Government.

[Mike]

Ps. I have all your symptoms right now but the lateral flow tests are negative so far.
Aren’t lateral flow tests for if you’re symptomless? When I had it, lateral flow tests said I didn’t.

[Spikey M]

We might have to watch deaths here. 63 yesterday. It was 30 last week IIRC.

[niko_cee]

Without wanting to be overly conspiratorial, but if X people are dying every day anyway (which they are) and C people have covid, as C gets bigger isn't it a likely consequence that people in both circles increases? There are probably what, ten times as many people with covid yesterday as compared with a week ago (as a guess)? I suppose that just takes us back to excess deaths and deferred mortality though. Probably best to get rid now than have a big wave of shit when winter hits and we have to shut down again.

[Offshore Toon]

I've got COVID. Tested negative on Monday after my flight and then my mate gave me a lift from the airport and his wife tested positive the next day, although I assume I could have easily picked it up in London at the weekend and just not shown symptoms. China got me, boys. I've never felt like such a failure.

[niko_cee]

In other news we're shitting the bed on travel (new semi-restrictions for Offy's mob :face:) which I dearly hope isn't a pre-cursor to a wider soiling. Hopefully by the end of August we'll be as near to 100% vaccinated as possible to thwart anything that'll botch my plans.

Edit, timing.

[Spikey M]

Without wanting to be overly conspiratorial, but if X people are dying every day anyway (which they are) and C people have covid, as C gets bigger isn't it a likely consequence that people in both circles increases? There are probably what, ten times as many people with covid yesterday as compared with a week ago (as a guess)? I suppose that just takes us back to excess deaths and deferred mortality though. Probably best to get rid now than have a big wave of shit when winter hits and we have to shut down again.

It's no surprise that deaths are going up, I just have my eye on the NHS Overwhelmed Klaxon.

There's no way we get through Winter without atleast one lockdown. Potentially the next few winters. Christ.

[Spikey M]

I've got COVID. Tested negative on Monday after my flight and then my mate gave me a lift from the airport and his wife tested positive the next day, although I assume I could have easily picked it up in London at the weekend and just not shown symptoms. China got me, boys. I've never felt like such a failure.

How are your symptoms? Are you taking it like a Mouse or a Magic?

[Offshore Toon]

How are your symptoms? Are you taking it like a Mouse or a Magic?
Sore throat is the only fully noticeable symptom with some headaches and a bit of lightheadedness. Feel a bit achy but still fairly energetic. I've had one jab so guess I've got a fair amount of protection. 14 days isolation is shit, though. No idea what I'm going to do. Might just spam the board with great threads.

[Andy]

It's no surprise that deaths are going up, I just have my eye on the NHS Overwhelmed Klaxon.

There's no way we get through Winter without atleast one lockdown. Potentially the next few winters. Christ.

Will take a long time to clear this NHS backlog. Can see them locking down again in the winter to stop the backlog from growing further.

[Spikey M]

Sore throat is the only fully noticeable symptom with some headaches and a bit of lightheadedness. Feel a bit achy but still fairly energetic. I've had one jab so guess I've got a fair amount of protection. 14 days isolation is shit, though. No idea what I'm going to do. Might just spam the board with great threads.

Do it.

[Spikey M]

Will take a long time to clear this NHS backlog. Can see them locking down again in the winter to stop the backlog from growing further.

It really does depend on how much protection double jabbing gives and how much of a break the schools closing proves to be. There's still hope, but yeah, you are almost certainly right.

[Kikó]

If only we properly invested in OUR NHS.

So the group I was in for the game on Sunday, I'm pretty sure they caught it the night before as a few more of them are now covid positive. Laterals are still telling me negative and I feel okay other than the continuous cough and fever.

[Spikey M]

Everyone's fucking got it :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

You can't start using lockdown as a tool to clear NHS backlogs. If you start handing over the keys of liberty to doctors (the most cautious people in the universe) when there isn't a clear and present pandemic spread threat, that's when heads will truly have fucking gone.

[Spikey M]

You can't start using lockdown as a tool to clear NHS backlogs. If you start handing over the keys of liberty to doctors (the most cautious people in the universe) when there isn't a clear and present pandemic spread threat, that's when heads will truly have fucking gone.

I don't think anyone means that (well, there will be people that do, but I don't), rather that the NHS being an absolute shitshow at the moment doesn't leave much room for mountains of Covid patients and I can't see the "We're running out of beds and oxygen!" headlines being far away.

[Don]

I have a dodgy throat this morning. Nothing major but can't think what it could be beside the Tendulkar variant.

Did my first test (lateral flow) a couple days go just for the bants as missus was doing them daily and had them lying around and it fucked up my throat for the rest of the day, I can imagine deepthroating cocksuckers will be used to it but fuck doing them again.

Amazed to hear so many people are using the NHS app too. Madness at every turn you look.

[Yevrah]

I don't think anyone means that (well, there will be people that do, but I don't), rather that the NHS being an absolute shitshow at the moment doesn't leave much room for mountains of Covid patients and I can't see the "We're running out of beds and oxygen!" headlines being far away.

Indeed. There have already been some "I can't believe we're here again" headlines.

[Magic]

625mg of antibiotics 3 times a day for a week. Fucking hell.

[Yevrah]

You can't start using lockdown as a tool to clear NHS backlogs. If you start handing over the keys of liberty to doctors (the most cautious people in the universe) when there isn't a clear and present pandemic spread threat, that's when heads will truly have fucking gone.

Heads have gone Jim. A long time ago.

There may be a lost in translation thing here from their school, but a guy in my team (who isn't a shirker) has just been told he needs to go and pick his daughter up and get her a PCR test as a teacher has it, but even if that test comes back as negative tomorrow, she's still not allowed back in school for 10 days (or 'until September' as it's otherwise known at this point in the year).

Up to this point I'd have thought it was weak leadership and SCIENCE being given far too much say on what we do, but if we go back into lockdown again this year, that's our lives changed for the foreseeable future by this, rest of the decade stuff I should imagine, maybe even longer when it comes to foreign holidays. So one does have to start to wonder, do the establishment want it to be this way?

The World outlook is even worse, with more deaths now globally than at any point per day up until November last year.

[Yevrah]

625mg of antibiotics 3 times a day for a week. Fucking hell.

Feeling any better?

Maybe now isn't the time, but please tell me this experience has changed your views on 'Novid'?

[Spikey M]

It'll take alot more than nearly dying to hoodwink him into buying the Scamdemic of Fauxvid.

[Yevrah]

How is it child like? It's a pathetic rule, but it's one we have to follow if we want any semblance of a normal life.

I want a normal life. I also don't want to have to isolate for 10 days when I have both had Covid and the vaccine.

So I take a photo and pretend it's the app. Why not? What is to be gained by refusing to get the app and storming off in a huff? The geezer on the door doesn't make the rules.

Also, isn't trying to go to the pub without the app, then walking away when you can't get in the exact same thing? You were still hoping to avoid getting tracked.

I don't mean to come across as casting shade, sorry if I did, as I do get that for me the isolating part of this has been a piece of piss for me so far - I live on my own, can work from home and have no family or small children to entertain and I've never been asked to isolate despite living as normal a life as possible when allowed.

[Yevrah]

Yev simmering along nicely.

I'm minded of a post last year where people thought my assessment of this was batshit. Well, 18 months on, how's everyone feeling now? This has truly broken the World we were all lucky enough to live in compared to billions of others (or made it even better for a select few who want to keep it that way) and it's not even as deadly as it could have turned out to be.

If an actually deadly pandemic is ever accidentally released from a lab, run for the hills. It'll be game over.

[Spikey M]

I think it's the lack of threat that's the main problem. People wouldn't be fucking about if Ebola was on the move. You wouldn't hear people talking about not being in a risk group. You wouldn't even need lockdown rules, every cunt would be at home.

I genuinely think an Ebola Pandemic would kill much, much less than this has.

[Kikó]

I have a dodgy throat this morning. Nothing major but can't think what it could be beside the Tendulkar variant.

Did my first test (lateral flow) a couple days go just for the bants as missus was doing them daily and had them lying around and it fucked up my throat for the rest of the day, I can imagine deepthroating cocksuckers will be used to it but fuck doing them again.

Amazed to hear so many people are using the NHS app too. Madness at every turn you look.

There are two NHS apps though, I have the one which captures your vaccine info, I don't have the test and trace. Speaking of which, from popbitch:

>> Ping FC <<
It's one way round it

It's not just staff at Rupert Murdoch's papers who have been having a tricky time with self-isolation recently. The radio stations at the Baby Shard are having a bit of difficulty too, especially the TalkSport set.

Juggling their work commitments (attending Euros fixtures in London and Rome) with all the various quarantine restrictions currently in place was always going to be hard. A number of senior management got pinged after England v Germany, requiring 10 days of self-isolation (which would have seen them out of action for the quarter- and semi-finals).

When another reporter tested positive after England v Ukraine (which could have put other staff in jeopardy of missing the big final) it was decided they needed to take some better precautions.

Specifically: deleting the NHS app, so they wouldn't get pinged anymore.

[Yevrah]

That is a fair argument (if we're talking about a mutated airborne Ebola), but not sure how that would offset societal collapse (looting etc.) when 'we' realised it was on its way.

[Yevrah]

There are two NHS apps though, I have the one which captures your vaccine info, I don't have the test and trace. Speaking of which, from popbitch:

>> Ping FC <<
It's one way round it

It's not just staff at Rupert Murdoch's papers who have been having a tricky time with self-isolation recently. The radio stations at the Baby Shard are having a bit of difficulty too, especially the TalkSport set.

Juggling their work commitments (attending Euros fixtures in London and Rome) with all the various quarantine restrictions currently in place was always going to be hard. A number of senior management got pinged after England v Germany, requiring 10 days of self-isolation (which would have seen them out of action for the quarter- and semi-finals).

When another reporter tested positive after England v Ukraine (which could have put other staff in jeopardy of missing the big final) it was decided they needed to take some better precautions.

Specifically: deleting the NHS app, so they wouldn't get pinged anymore.

Quite brilliant. And as I've said for months now anyone who thinks test and trace (for something only as serious as this) could ever work in the Western World is delusional.

[Spikey M]

That is a fair argument (if we're talking about a mutated airborne Ebola), but not sure how that would offset societal collapse (looting etc.) when 'we' realised it was on its way.

Yeah, I think it would start much the same way as Covid did (mass Toilet Roll and Pasta riots), then the doors would shut until everyone stopped dying.

That said, people are idiots, so who knows. You'd probably still get the Conspiracy lot keeping it going.

[Magic]

Feeling any better?

Maybe now isn't the time, but please tell me this experience has changed your views on 'Novid'?

Not really.

And no, plandemic.

[Yevrah]

Not really.

And no, plandemic.

I hesitate to ask, but 'plandemic'?

[Andy]

I've had the NHS app running on my phone since it was first released and haven't been pinged once despite going in and out of 5-10 houses/suppliers everyday. I'd get more or less ull pay and two weeks off work so no down side to not having it really.

Sucks if you work from home and have to isolate though, that must be super depressing.

[Yevrah]

I've just ventured onto BBC News for the first time today. Wish I hadn't..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57840825


Younger adults admitted to hospital with Covid are almost as likely to suffer from complications as those over 50 years old, a study has found.

Four in 10 of those between 19 and 49 developed problems with their kidneys, lungs or other organs while treated.

The research looked at 73,197 adults of all ages across 302 UK hospitals in the first wave of Covid in 2020.

"The message is that this is not just a disease of the elderly and frail," said Prof Calum Semple, who led the work.

"The data reinforces the fact that Covid is not flu and we are seeing even young adults coming into hospital suffering significant complications, some of which will require furthering monitoring and potentially further treatment in the future."

This is going to end the NHS.

[Kikó]

I hesitate to ask, but 'plandemic'?

He thinks it's fake despite having it now and nearly dying. He's got brain fog.

[Spikey M]

I've just ventured onto BBC News for the first time today. Wish I hadn't..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57840825



This is going to end the NHS.

I saw this yesterday (and I know no more about it than the content of the tweet)

1415632228575551492?s=19

[Spikey M]

He thinks it's fake despite having it now and nearly dying. He's got brain fog.

I think that's SCAMdemic. I take PLANdemic to mean "It's real but they're doing it on purpose".

[Yevrah]

And are people still following the self-isolation rules?
New figures from the Office for National Statistics suggest that 89% of people do "fully adhere" to what they are asked to do when they have to self-isolate.

The ONS interviewed 990 people in England between 28 June and 3 July and say the 89% who said yes is similar to the levels they found when they asked the same question one month and two months earlier.

Someone needs to review how they chose those 990 people.

[Manc]

I saw this yesterday (and I know no more about it than the content of the tweet)

1415632228575551492?s=19

Lol wut. How has this not broke in the news?

[Spikey M]

Lol wut. How has this not broke in the news?

Fuck knows. I saw it but was too busy to dig deeper.

I suspect there's some spin being applied by Jon, but no idea.

I can't find anything on any mainstream platform, but did find this:

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19443338.health-care-bill-nhs-takeover-legislation-passes-second-reading/

[-james-]

Someone needs to review how they chose those 990 people.

I've been on the ONS survey since last summer, I presume it's the same one. We got a letter through the mailbox inviting us. Once a month someone comes to my house and takes swabs, bloods and does a questionnaire. There is some info on how the sampling process here. (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/methodologies/covid19infectionsurveypilotmethodsandfurtherinform ation) No idea why they're quoting such a small sample here though.

I would imagine the type of person who signs up to such a thing (though there is free money involved) is the type of person who follows isolation rules.

There's probably a decent bit of shame involved in telling the pleasant nurse at your doorstep that you've been committing such a heinous crime in 2021.

[Raoul Duke]

Had my second Pfizer shot on Weds. Much less worse in-terms of reaction this time but still kinda killed me for a day. Feeling fine now and looking forwards to being back to relatively normal in a couple of weeks

[Lewis]

I would like to see a timetable for NHS privatisation.

[Queenslander]

While Sydney is in lockdown.



.Caitlyn Jenner flies into Sydney for Celebrity Big Brother while thousands of Aussies remain stranded
https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/reality-tv/caitlyn-jenner-flies-into-sydney-for-celebrity-big-brother-while-thousands-of-aussies-remain-stranded/news-story/990e2393fa278cd5fe106f34d22e7085

[Don]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/16/englands-covid-unlocking-a-threat-to-the-world-experts-say

Deepti is our hero, Deepti is our hero, na na na na...

[Spikey M]

A threat to the world :D

[Manc]

A vaccine resistant variant would be a right laugh.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This 'could allow vaccine-resistant variants to develop' thing is absolute bullshit and always has been.

We 'could' be hit by an asteroid tomorrow.

Deepti is driven by a very strange motivation to close schools and keep them closed, it's all she's prattled on about for months now.

[Yevrah]

As above though, it does suggest some people like things this way. I would love to be on a call with the 1,200.

[Yevrah]

And SCIENCE is still absolutely fine of course.

[randomlegend]

This 'could allow vaccine-resistant variants to develop' thing is absolute bullshit and always has been.


Well it's not. You're much more likely to get mutations if there are a massively higher number of infected people, whether those people are significantly unwell or not.

I'm not arguing about which way (opening up or not) is right at this point, but you're definitely opening yourself up to so-called variants by allowing the virus to spread more.

[Don]

A vaccine resistant variant would be a right laugh.

This. Truly would love to see it. Separate the melts from the men. It's our responsibility to get out there into the clubs and do our part from this Monday.

[7om]

I know you’re Taz, but why would anyone ‘love to see’ a variant that wastes billions of pounds worth of vaccine development and rollout and will inevitably cost tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of lives?
Don

[Spikey M]

Well it's not. You're much more likely to get mutations if there are a massively higher number of infected people, whether those people are significantly unwell or not.

I'm not arguing about which way (opening up or not) is right at this point, but you're definitely opening yourself up to so-called variants by allowing the virus to spread more.

The asteroid line should tell you he's not saying it can't happen. He's saying you can't live life in fear of what MIGHT happen.

[Spikey M]

I know you’re Taz, but why would anyone ‘love to see’ a variant that wastes billions of pounds worth of vaccine development and rollout and will inevitably cost tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of lives?
Don

We all love a shambles.

[Yevrah]

If that ever happens it'll be comfortably the worst collective moment in all of our lifetimes.

I don't think it will, but at this point, I'm not ruling anything out.

[Waffdon]

I know you’re Taz, but why would anyone ‘love to see’ a variant that wastes billions of pounds worth of vaccine development and rollout and will inevitably cost tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of lives?
Don

Same reason we all loved the Boston Bombing and Roaul Moat

[randomlegend]

The asteroid line should tell you he's not saying it can't happen. He's saying you can't live life in fear of what MIGHT happen.

Everyone lives in fear of, and adapts their behaviour based on, what might happen. He is just perceiving the risk of opening up resulting in a dangerous variant as "being hit by an asteroid" low, when in reality he has literally zero idea how likely it is or how much opening up will increase that likelihood (and yet feels qualified to tell the people whose jobs it is to evaluate such things that they are talking bullshit).

[Don]

I know you’re Taz, but why would anyone ‘love to see’ a variant that wastes billions of pounds worth of vaccine development and rollout and will inevitably cost tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of lives?
Don

A thirst for anarchy as Spikey points out but also prospect of accelerated revolution.

[Yevrah]

A revolution? We've never been further from one than we are now. Apathy is our best friend.

[Don]

A revolution in thinking if nothing else. If the vaccine was to be defeated by a new strain, I don't believe people would allow another 16 months like we've just had and I'm not sure the economic systems could even cope. Apathy is also why I am willing this on, I'm not sure how much longer football can hold my attention in this world.

[Lewis]

The vaccine-resistant strain is more likely to develop here than, say, the largely open United States because we have Boris Johnson and Brexit. I think that is about the extent of the thinking there, and then all the other scientists will have just signed it as a general statement.

[7om]

A thirst for anarchy as Spikey points out but also prospect of accelerated revolution.

What revolution? I’m not taking the piss or anything, just curious.

[7om]

Same reason we all loved the Boston Bombing and Roaul Moat

One-off incidents aren’t even remotely comparable to the anarchy of a completely vaccine-resistant variant.

[Spikey M]

Everyone lives in fear of, and adapts their behaviour based on, what might happen. He is just perceiving the risk of opening up resulting in a dangerous variant as "being hit by an asteroid" low, when in reality he has literally zero idea how likely it is or how much opening up will increase that likelihood (and yet feels qualified to tell the people whose jobs it is to evaluate such things that they are talking bullshit).

Flu or any other illness could mutate at any time. We don't lockdown on that basis. We lockdown in response to actual events.

[Don]

What revolution? I’m not taking the piss or anything, just curious.

Don't ask me for details man. All I know is, politically and economically, this same response is not likely to be feasible. Thinking will have to change regarding all manner of things including health systems, UBI, recreation, schooling, etc.