Coronavirus Death Thread

[Giggles]

As someone who has been deploying the 'little and often' approach to panic buying, I'm pretty sure the supply chain is pretty resilient for all items except paracetomol.

Not sure about Ireland but it can't be too different. The only threat is complete thickos who think this will result in a year long ruckus, rather than a possible 2-4 weeks of needing to stay indoors for public health reasons.

I got 200 paracetamol in the post today. The doctor prescribed my Da 1000 after his last operation so they sent me up some.

[randomlegend]

Yeah, more inbreeding, that's what you need.

Worth.

[7om]

The language these people are using is insane.
Catch what and how? What in the fuck is he talking about?

I mean, I think I have intrinsic trust in the guy because he's the chief medical officer but I don't quite get what he's on about. Is this upswing inevitable?

In my pea brain I'm thinking why can't we just shut everything down now and contain the cases purely by having zero contact with each other. Or is that just impossible? I can't help but think there's something sinister going on.

[niko_cee]

All the old and the sick will die because no one can work, not from coronavirus, but from all the other things the army of doctors, nurses and care assistants keep at bay on a daily basis (starvation etc) so how exactly do you shut down everything?

[Kikó]

What snacks have you got in?

By the time I make it to the supermarket again all I'm going to be left with is Fray Bentos pies.

Just stocked up on the carbs really. Got loads of booze though if I need to drink myself to death.

Did buy a massive chicken and mushroom pie though.

[7om]

Obviously not literally everything.

[Giggles]

I’m hoping for more drink tomorrow in the hope the that all the dregs will have hit Lidl and Aldi and the good stuff will still be left in the off licence.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I mean, I think I have intrinsic trust in the guy because he's the chief medical officer but I don't quite get what he's on about. Is this upswing inevitable?

In my pea brain I'm thinking why can't we just shut everything down now and contain the cases purely by having zero contact with each other. Or is that just impossible? I can't help but think there's something sinister going on.

The theory goes that since its spread is inevitable, delaying the severe action will lead to a peak of x as opposed to 2x, 5x or 10x.

Since no one else is taking this approach (of major European countries), I guess we have to hope that our scientists don theirs on a scale not seen since we made those cheat suits for the skeleton bob.

[Shindig]

British Airways just scared the shit out of me with a routine email.

On the ropes, lads.

[Giggles]

British Airways just scared the shit out of me with a routine email.

On the ropes, lads.

I was wondering which of us would be the first with it.

[Shindig]

Lewis has already had it. He heard there was a TTH award in it for him.

[Yevrah]

The theory goes that since its spread is inevitable, delaying the severe action will lead to a peak of x as opposed to 2x, 5x or 10x.

And this is the bit I can't join the dots on, and as you've said, how does doing nothing lead to a peak of only x?

The only thing that came close to explaining it was that if you ask people to stay indoors for weeks they'll get bored and stop doing it, but they're not doing that now, so unless he's suggesting that the fit of boredom will lead to people pulling a Rudy Gobert en masse, it makes no sense - I watched and listened and I still don't understand.

I'm not saying shut everything as I appreciate a balance needs to be struck to keep society going, but I don't need to work in an office and my company aren't looking likely to force me not to until the government advice suggests I shouldn't, so why don't they take me and presumably millions of people like me out of the equation, with minimal impact?

If peak is May and that peak is 13 million people infected, I sure as shit won't be coming into the office at that point, whatever the advice is.

[Yevrah]

I was wondering which of us would be the first with it.

Whoever does get it first and I'd suggest it's looking very likely at least one of us will, I want a diary. I'll send supplies via Amazon to fund it.

[Lewis]

I've remembered that I used behavioural research methods in my doctorate, which makes me a verified whatever it is. Please direct your questions on it all to me.

[Yevrah]

I've remembered that I used behavioural research methods in my doctorate, which makes me a verified whatever it is. Please direct your questions on it all to me.

What's your take on it all Lewis? From a survivor's perspective, natch.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They should probably throw Dominic Cummings at the virus, if they haven't already. He's donned everything else.

[Lewis]

What's your take on it all Lewis? From a survivor's perspective, natch.

I'm surprised that they have called sport off (we'll see whether it lasts), but I'm still lolling at the panic buyers.

[Pepe]

I did my "panic buying" over ten days ago, like a proper don. Mostly because the good canned beans brand is barely stocked and there is no way I am eating fucking Goya beans. :sick:

[Lofty]

I don't want to buy more than the usual amount of supplies but based on the massive wet fart from BoJo today I think it might be prudent to stock up in case the same thing happens a few weeks down the line except this time he's explaining why the army hasn't delivered everyone's rations yet.

[Giggles]

I did my "panic buying" over ten days ago, like a proper don. Mostly because the good canned beans brand is barely stocked and there is no way I am eating fucking Goya beans. :sick:
Beans were my biggest but along with tinned tomatoes. I’ve enough spices to keep things interesting if the shit hits the fan.

[Pepe]

Beans were my biggest but along with tinned tomatoes. I’ve enough spices to keep things interesting if the shit hits the fan.

I got lots of tomatoes as well. Tortillas too, but I already ate half of my stash.

Supermarkets were still fully stocked as of yesterday over here.

[mugbull]

In Stockholm I went to the supermarket for the first time in a week or so expecting the shelves to be empty. Nope. Fully stocked. Fewer eggs than usual, but that was it

[Giggles]

I got lots of tomatoes as well. Tortillas too, but I already ate half of my stash.

Supermarkets were still fully stocked as of yesterday over here.

They’ve been raped here but I’ve at least a months worth bought. I’ll call in the odd day and buy and eat fresh so as not to dip into the stash until we are properly told to stay indoors.

[randomlegend]

They were talking today about how we'll have "clean nurses" and "dirty nurses" when it hits properly.

Every time someone says "dirty nurse" - SPLOOSH.

[Shindig]

I've grabbed a few things for the weekend but I'll grab some tinned stuff for when I come back. Our Tesco looks to be untouched by student panic. More Pot Noodles for me, then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd like tor request a dirty nurse please.

[Boydy]

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[Jimmy Floyd]

They have now un-cancelled the Australian Grand Prix. Love it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

All of them have either small trolleys and/or half full trolleys.

If the queue is that long properly stock up.

[Giggles]

We’ve been released “from the obligation to go to mass” :D

There’s also a limit of a hundred on funerals with only family and close friends if possible.

[Giggles]

There have been many today but I liked this one.

https://i.imgur.com/sKHQ0Ks.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only 10kg of potatoes? Riots will be had.

[Disco]

I can't quite see how this gets to a point that it disrupts the food supply to any serious degree, but people had to have lettuces rationed not too long ago so it's no surprise that they're still idiots.

[Shindig]

Aye, logistics will still roll in a total shutdown. Heck, they'd be more efficient with the empty roads.

[Bernanke]

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:lol:

[Giggles]

I’m looking after deliveries for work as I live the closest to the office so it should mean I’m paid even if we end up at home.

[Luca]

What’s the good brand of beans, Pepe?

[Serj]

Our Chancellor (read: PM) has already recommended reducing all social contact to a minimum and also cancel all family events. They're announcing new measures tomorrow. People are undergoing mandatory "health checks" when crossing the border from Italy, but I can't help but think that with the amount of cross-border traffic going on between Austria and Italy, we must have thousands of undetected cases by now.

There's an "itk"-rumour doing the rounds on social media around here that the government is planning to implement a 7pm-7am curfew from next week. Obviously those kinds of things need to be taken with a grain of salt, but still, sounds quite bizarre.

Our department head still thinks that people are overreacting and that it's basically a new form of flu and not that much to worry about. Meanwhile the two CEOs have decided to clear out several departments and send them home. Since I'm in customer care we're probably the last ones to go. :moop:

The supermarkets round here are still quite well-stocked, though.

[Lewis]

'Perhaps you've not heard. I'm now the Gauleiter.'

[Max Power]

Mikel Arteta has it now. Surely they aren’t actually going to play a full round of fixtures this weekend?

Got to say this is all very exciting in a perverse way. A huge story that is developing all the time that everyone is involved in. Beats even a good old terror attack.

[Boydy]

Mikel Arteta has it now. Surely they aren’t actually going to play a full round of fixtures this weekend?

Got to say this is all very exciting in a perverse way. A huge story that is developing all the time that everyone is involved in. Beats even a good old terror attack.

I prefer the relative safety of a terrorist attack though.

Seems mad to me they're still having football on at the weekend.

[Yevrah]

I wonder who the first famous person to die from it will be.

[Shindig]

This is the closest we'll get to a war or a three-day week.

[Yevrah]

This might be old news, but Gates nailing things after Ebola.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI

[Giggles]

We’re going to test all these fuckwits coming back from Cheltenham at least.

By the soccer player sample size we must have at least 100,000 infected at this stage in reality though. UK must have at least 7 figures.

[Yevrah]

We’re going to test all these fuckwits coming back from Cheltenham at least.

By the soccer player sample size we must have at least 100,000 infected at this stage in reality though. UK must have at least 7 figures.

I did think the 5-10k estimate earlier was low - the fact that I've now lost count of the number of famous people who have it shows how utterly rife it is.

They've got the best access to medical care so it stands to reason they'll find out before anyone else, but I don't know of a single person who knows someone's who's been tested, let alone has it. The closest is the chap at work who is now back from Italy and is self isolating.

[Lewis]

Doesn't this assumption that everybody is massively under-counting/reporting cases prove that it isn't worth shitting the bed over?

[Waffdon]

Scotland will play all their games this weekend purely because of the Old Firm.

Dybala now apparently has it. This is amazing.

[Shindig]

The thing with famous people is they tend to travel a lot more than the average person. Same goes for politicians. And medical chiefs are usually taken to the heart of the problem.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dybala now.

[Yevrah]

Doesn't this assumption that everybody is massively under-counting/reporting cases prove that it isn't worth shitting the bed over?

Not necessarily as it hasn't been in the system long enough (bar Italy it seems) for the under-reported to have died.

[Yevrah]

The thing with famous people is they tend to travel a lot more than the average person. Same goes for politicians. And medical chiefs are usually taken to the heart of the problem.

True, but we live in a mobile world. I don't know the numbers, but let's say a fuck ton of people will have travelled in and out of the UK since January.

[Pepe]

What’s the good brand of beans, Pepe?

La Costeña.

[Bernanke]

Ronny next. :drool:

[Giggles]

I did think the 5-10k estimate earlier was low - the fact that I've now lost count of the number of famous people who have it shows how utterly rife it is.

They've got the best access to medical care so it stands to reason they'll find out before anyone else, but I don't know of a single person who knows someone's who's been tested, let alone has it. The closest is the chap at work who is now back from Italy and is self isolating.

Like in fairness, we’ve 60 something cases but that’s 60 from the very few tested. Everywhere is waking with it.

[Yevrah]

Dybala now apparently has it. This is amazing.

The idea of playing any football is now preposterous. It's one things having people in stands, but getting 22+ men to breathe and sweat all over each other for 90 minutes is another.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

La Costeña.

I think I tried their green salsa.

It was top notch.

[Yevrah]

John Ashton, a former director of Public Health (presumably an expert then) is ripping the approach in this country by the government to shreds on Question Time.

[Bernanke]

Green salsa >>>>>>>>> any other salsa.

[Magic]

This is fucking mental, and secretly I love it. More death please.

[Pepe]

I think I tried their green salsa.

It was top notch.

Haven't tried it, since I only use home-made salsa (:lewis:), but I would trust most of their stuff.

[Yevrah]

You're not willing to lose your wife but you've gone and sat with a load of people in a confined audience.

Smart move buddy.

[Pepe]

Not sure if I should go play football tomorrow.

[Yevrah]

Not sure if I should go play football tomorrow.

If your local league has people who've got it then you shouldn't be, no.

[thommo]

People tweeting Arteta like he's about to bloody die. He's probably pleased to be cooped up away from the media for 2 weeks and not having to manage that tripe.

[Pepe]

If your local league has people who've got it then you shouldn't be, no.

No one I know of, but a few of those twats were traveling over Spring Break. Then again, we're having dinner with my wife's friend who just came back from Spain, so RIP me.

[Yevrah]

Interesting watching this. Are the scientists abroad of a similar mind to ours and being ignored or do they just disagree?

[niko_cee]

This Peter Hain public health waxwork has to be one of the biggest arseholes in QT history.

[Manc]

He's five seconds away from going full Network.

[niko_cee]

Quite surprised to return home and not see the 5k barrier broken on the deathometer, only an increase of 6 in those few hours. Virus, I am disappoint.

Seasonal flu wipes out 281 people in the same time period on average, apparently, and AIDs has a done a grand.

[Yevrah]

Quite surprised to return home and not see the 5k barrier broken on the deathometer, only an increase of 6 in those few hours. Virus, I am disappoint.

Seasonal flu wipes out 281 people in the same time period on average, apparently, and AIDs has a done a grand.

We're doing nothing so I'd assumed you'd be happy that that's a proportionate response.

[Lewis]

The interview with the professor man on Newsnight was good.

[Waffdon]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23179570

Lol

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23179570

Lol

Are you of the belief that people haven't been talking about SARS and MERS?

[Lewis]

The only MERS in this thread are all of Randrew's posts.

[Queenslander]

The silver lining down here is that the coronavirus may knock off a few of those woke scolds that mooch around Melbourne.

[Yevrah]

Watching Newsnight, and I've come to the conclusion that this is batshit. The whole thing appears to stem around successfully gaming the public, while simultaneously telling them up front that that's what you're going to do, but not telling them what the rules of the game will be. Delaying things so you can smooth the impact out and build immunity also makes perfect sense, but other than telling people to self isolate if they feel symptoms (without telling them how they'll pay their bills if they do) we've done nothing to delay it.

The Italian numbers may be exaggerated vs. anywhere else due to them being ambushed by it, but we're going to post some formidable numbers over the coming weeks if we carry on down this path and if people don't have faith in the plan already, they sure as shit won't when they're having to bury granny in the garden. At which point the whole plan falls apart as we'll see the same nutjob response to people's daily business that we've seen recently with their shopping habits and it'll be carnage.

The role of government in this should be to manage the people and manage the virus, both are equally important and we're seemingly fisting both.

[Waffdon]

Hudson Odoi has it now. The whole league is about to end up with it. I’m just going to assume I’ve beaten this already after returning from Budapest.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51864868

Benjamin Mendy likely has it.

[Queenslander]

Qld Government have a list of 3500 people in self isolation. The tracing being done from Tom Hanks time in Brisbane could see another 500 self isolate taking us to 4000. Our numbers should jump by the end of next week.

[Yevrah]

Football is over this season. The Premier League is rife with it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just null and void the season.

[Luca]

Pretty sure the Dybala stuff is unsubstantiated Twitter nonsense. Who will be the board's first victim?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Smart money has to be on Randrew.

Working at a hospital and he has a dodgy immune system.

[Queenslander]

Flight Center has just closed 100 stores. :(


Details.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-13/coronavirus-fears-prompt-closure-of-100-flight-centre-stores/12053206?pfmredir=sm

[Queenslander]

Amazing that the Government has to scold the public about not rocking up to any of the testing sites unannounced. Surely the same cunts hoarding toilet paper etc.

Edit: Queensland is expecting a 1% mortality.

1 in 4 (1 million) people will have it in the next 6 months.

8 out of the 35 have recovered.


https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-
13/coronavirus-infect-one-in-four-queenslanders-within-six-months/12053634?pfmredir=sm&sf231447635=1&utm_medium=spredfast&utm_source=fb_abc_brisbane&utm_campaign=khoros


The UK must be more than a month behind us. Just so much detailed information available.

[Mellberg]

Also if you're not making a fortune on the stock market shorting against airlines and ferry companies you need to start now.

There's still time. It's nailed on free money and an ideal way to entertain yourself whilst eating pasta and wiping your arse.

Ruthless, but you might as well.

[Yevrah]

I genuinely don't know if I have the balls now.

I was targeting a price originally that the shares I was after hit today, but things have got a lot more complicated and I'm not sure it's worth tying that sort of money up for the long term if we're stuck with this for ages.

[Mellberg]

1. Trade intraday using a CFD. Short against whoever sounds the most fucked that day according to the news. Or you could pick any index blindfolded tbh. Cash in before the days out. Either withdraw all funds or rinse and repeat over following days/weeks.
2. ???
3. Profit!

Obviously be careful and there are sessions when it will rebound (although these are becoming fewer and smaller). Sell at the top of a peak rather than base of a dip. Always use a stop loss and only invest what you can afford to lose, because if it starts going the other way you need a steady hand and not be trading out because the red figure is intimidating.

Warnings aside, it's genuine free money unless you're a bit slow.

[Yevrah]

I don’t know how to do any of number 1. How much have you made?

[Queenslander]

Federal Govenment all events over 500 to be cancelled.

Urging all travel overseas to be cancelled.

[Spikey M]

1. Trade intraday using a CFD. Short against whoever sounds the most fucked that day according to the news. Or you could pick any index blindfolded tbh. Cash in before the days out. Either withdraw all funds or rinse and repeat over following days/weeks.
2. ???
3. Profit!

Obviously be careful and there are sessions when it will rebound (although these are becoming fewer and smaller). Sell at the top of a peak rather than base of a dip. Always use a stop loss and only invest what you can afford to lose, because if it starts going the other way you need a steady hand and not be trading out because the red figure is intimidating.

Warnings aside, it's genuine free money unless you're a bit slow.

Shorting is the worst thing you can do in an already fucked market, surely?

[John Arne]

The main tourist street in Saigon...

https://gyazo.com/e99dd5573ec8cb8e28eaf37ff56a9072.jpeg

[Jimmy Floyd]

Everything in the world is cancelled, but the nation is still heading off to busy offices and transport networks this morning (or at least I am). It makes no sense.

[Spikey M]

Croatia now doing self isolation for 14 days for people coming in. Which is great because the Holiday can still technically go ahead, so the insurance won't pay out. Fuck sake.

[Queenslander]

Again we were told today it is 15 minute person to person or 2 hours in the same room. Time to set your timers fellas.

[niko_cee]

The complicated dance of where kids fit in our new, mental "cough and you're gone" world begins today. Don't think I'm even going to bother to take the pre-schooler as she has a runny nose (like all kids) and the boss there will be in full hazmat mode by now. The school age ones are more of gamble, one is fine, one has a penchant for coughing, but has done her whole life. I'm screwed because I've had a runny nose for 38 years.

[Shindig]

Germany's numbers are taking off. Spain's look like they're about to. Europe has royally fucked this.

[Queenslander]

Minister for Fascism Peter Dutton has come out positive. :drool:

Boris is off his head.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Croatia now doing self isolation for 14 days for people coming in. Which is great because the Holiday can still technically go ahead, so the insurance won't pay out. Fuck sake.

We've been told by the travel company that only if the FCO specifically advises against travel to Portugal will they refund. Otherwise, we are simply 'disinclined to travel'. I can take £400 hit if I have to, but a lot of people surely can't.

[Spikey M]

It's a 3 grand hit for us.

We get free Holiday Insurance with our bank account, so need to call them to see how decent our cancellation policy is.

[Baz]

If it can go ahead, why not just go?

[Spikey M]

Because I don't have anywhere to self-Isolate for 14 days of my 11 day holiday and spending 14 days confined to a hotel room with 2 kids is possibly the only thing less appealing than losing 3 grand.

[John Arne]

Can you just fly to a nearby country and drive over the border?

EDIT: Ah, that's a lot of new flights to book. Ignore me.

[Spikey M]

Can you just fly to a nearby country and drive over the border?

EDIT: Ah, that's a lot of new flights to book. Ignore me.

I imagine you'd turn up at the hotel and they'd immediately enforce the quarantine anyway.

[Luca]

Justin Trudeau’s wife has it (after returning from the UK), so he’ll probably be the first world leader confirmed, unless Bolsonaro’s results come in first. What a race.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's a 3 grand hit for us.

We get free Holiday Insurance with our bank account, so need to call them to see how decent our cancellation policy is.

I have travel insurance but I'm reliably informed no one will pay out a penny for this.

[Giggles]

Croatia now doing self isolation for 14 days for people coming in. Which is great because the Holiday can still technically go ahead, so the insurance won't pay out. Fuck sake.

That’s some jip. Would that stand up in court?

[Baz]

It’s like volcanic ash gate, only a more entertaining film.

[Kikó]

1. Trade intraday using a CFD. Short against whoever sounds the most fucked that day according to the news. Or you could pick any index blindfolded tbh. Cash in before the days out. Either withdraw all funds or rinse and repeat over following days/weeks.
2. ???
3. Profit!

Obviously be careful and there are sessions when it will rebound (although these are becoming fewer and smaller). Sell at the top of a peak rather than base of a dip. Always use a stop loss and only invest what you can afford to lose, because if it starts going the other way you need a steady hand and not be trading out because the red figure is intimidating.

Warnings aside, it's genuine free money unless you're a bit slow.

This is super dangerous and only do it if you feel confident. You're catching a falling knife.

I'd say buy if you fancy a stock e.g. Amazon, Google, Microsoft and they're at a bit of a discount.

[Lewis]

You just want all the rewards for yourself you parasite.

[Mellberg]

I don’t know how to do any of number 1. How much have you made?

I'm not gonna say overall, but more than 20k this week. And that was being sensible with little risk.

[Mellberg]

Shorting is the worst thing you can do in an already fucked market, surely?

Not if you're in and out in a day. It's not going to recover now at the start of a crisis.

[Spikey M]

That’s some jip. Would that stand up in court?

Probably. They're not wrong. We can technically still go.


I have travel insurance but I'm reliably informed no one will pay out a penny for this.

The mrs has called the insurance company and they're saying they will deal with things on a 'case by case basis within 28 days of travel'. Nice little non-answer.

That leaves claiming it back through the Credit Card company (if you paid any on a credit card, which we paid the last £200 thankfully) but I reckon they'll slam the door shut on that somehow too.

[Yevrah]

I was watching Martin Lewis on this yesterday and the rub of it is that if our foreign office aren't advising against travel to an area you won't get a penny back if you don't go.

[Lewis]

Top drawer that, Mellin. Especially when 'catching a falling knife' was basically your trial defence. #turnaround

[thommo]

Czech Republic have announced a 30 day ban on visitors from the UK, among other countries. My flight to Prague is in 39 days so I'm either hoping for a quick recovery from this thing, or it continues and forces a further lockdown to get the money back.

[SvN]

Parents-in-law are meant to be going to New York next week. They're trying to see if they can get their money back, but it's looking like a no-go unless Trump extends the ban to the UK.

[mugbull]

Czech Republic have announced a 30 day ban on visitors from the UK, among other countries. My flight to Prague is in 39 days so I'm either hoping for a quick recovery from this thing, or it continues and forces a further lockdown to get the money back.

I flew out of Prague to Stockholm a day before Babis announced this. Otherwise I would have been stuck in our tiny Prague flat with my parents and sister for a month trying to study remotely on a sofa

[CJay]

Seems like those Brazilian officials were rife with it when Trump was over. This is going to do him in, isn’t it?

[John Arne]

Trump completely fucking up his speech is a new low, even for him. The travel ban doesn't apply to US citizens, nor does it apply to trade - something is failed to mention in his speech (actually he said the complete opposite regarding trade).

[Yevrah]

If one good thing is to come out of this it'll be that I suspect it'll genuinely take him down.

It's one thing bullshitting your way through when all people have to worry about is when their next beer is happening, but entirely different when you're dealing with a global pandemic.

[Magic]

My daughter is supposed to be going to NYC with my mum in 2 weeks...likelihood of it getting cancelled? :(

And I'm going to Hamburg in 4 weeks. FFS.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was watching Martin Lewis on this yesterday and the rub of it is that if our foreign office aren't advising against travel to an area you won't get a penny back if you don't go.

Yep. I was discussing this with someone on our group whatsapp (the others are all just 'staying positive' and thinking the pandemic will recede) and we believe that even if UK goes into total lockdown, we won't get anything unless there's specific advice against going where we're going.

In a way I don't begrudge them, as no one will benefit from travel companies going bust over this.

[Lewis]

I've got nine days of leave to waste before the twentieth of April. I'll be seething if I have to sit in house because everything is closed. Especially if we're all signed off the base anyway.

[Mellberg]

Top drawer that, Mellin. Especially when 'catching a falling knife' was basically your trial defence. #turnaround

:D Thanks.

I'll stop banging on about it now. Final words on the subject. If anyone pursues it, I'll repeat, please be careful. I appreciate it makes people nervous, so I'd suggest bare minimum opening a play money account on a CFD (Plus500 has one), familiarising yourself with the processes and behaviours of the market and catching it on the upswing. Even if you go on to buy certs, it'll build your confidence and understanding ready for the recovery.

[AyDee]

I've been in NYC on holiday since Monday and it's been wonderfully quiet. I've not been before, and it's probably always quieter this time of year, but it's been noticeably quiet.

Wanted to go to the Frick Museum and a Broadway show yesterday but all cancelled. The Met and MoMA have closed too so that's
also some of today's plans out the window. Wank.

Fly back on Saturday evening, which doesn't look an issue at the moment, but who knows with everything getting banned left, right and center.

[Mellberg]

English football off until 3rd April.

[John Arne]

Sounds a long time, but it's only 2 games for Liverpool.

[Yevrah]

English football off until 3rd April.

They desperately want to keep that grubby money turning, don’t they?

No chance it starts again then.

[Lewis]

Yeah, I can see how you postpone the international tournament for a year (fully fit Harry Kane wahey), but how do you put the regular season off without it rippling across the next few years?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They could finish it quickly in June or whatever.

F1 thinks it will reschedule all the missed races for August.

[Waffdon]

Scottish football all cancelled now. For fuck sake

[Queenslander]

AFL, NRL, Super Rugby and the A-League are to be played in empty stadiums for now.

[Ian]

I'm gonna have to get creative with next month's football thread as it stands.

[Bernanke]

I'm gonna have to get creative with next month's football thread as it stands.

Time for a day by day retrospective.

[John Arne]

Vietnam officially closed its borders today. No new VISAs at all, from any country.Tourist attractions, including a whole city have been closed.

It's gonna be a quiet, boring, shitty few weeks.

[Lewis]

AFL, NRL, Super Rugby and the A-League are to be played in empty stadiums for now.

Super League is shitting it. It needs the gate receipts to survive, so empty stadiums and cancellations are a major problem.

[Queenslander]

Super League is shitting it. It needs the gate receipts to survive, so empty stadiums and cancellations are a major problem.

That is shit. Do you think any clubs will go under?

[Queenslander]

Vietnam officially closed its borders today. No new VISAs at all, from any country.Tourist attractions, including a whole city have been closed.

It's gonna be a quiet, boring, shitty few weeks.

Very sensible. Western Australia wants to stop flights from Indonesia after 5 people came back from Bali with it. Bali would have to be due for a massive outbreak surely?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We have a labourer from Poland who is staying in the half finished downstairs flat and he has a temperature of 38 today.


Told him he should self-isolate for a week and he's already gone out.

People are stupid and this is why it's spreading so quickly.
He's changed his flight from 10 days to Sunday.

Poland will test him on arrival and put him in quarantine for 2-3 weeks.

Mong.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The boredom for us sports fans is going to be the thing. What am I meant to do, watch Downton Abbey for weeks?

[Boydy]

The boredom for us sports fans is going to be the thing. What am I meant to do, watch Downton Abbey for weeks?

Get a tv binge watchalong thread going. Not for Downton Abbey though, something good.

[Ian]

The boredom for us sports fans is going to be the thing. What am I meant to do, watch Downton Abbey for weeks?

I wonder if the matches I consider some of my favourites ever would actually be any fun on a rewatch?

Maybe time to see if I can find Netherlands / Czechs from Euro 2004.

[niko_cee]

Vietnam must be doing a sterling job on this seeing as they've managed to send an infected tube driver back to London.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Charles Barkley possibly.

[Bob Sacamano]

Poor bookmakers are going to struggle with absolutely no sport on. What a shame.

[Disco]

The boredom for us sports fans is going to be the thing. What am I meant to do, watch Downton Abbey for weeks?

I've been surviving on NASCAR and hoarding MotoGP from the weekend. Sebring is cancelled and I don't imagine the fair dinkum tintops will be doing much with the GP cancelled so it's going to be slim pickings for a while.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My cricket club practice nets (which constitutes a gathering of, maybe, 25 people) have been cancelled by the venue. In a week nothing will be left except work, TV, books and shagging.

Even new TV is questionable so Dad's Army re-runs ahoy.

[Boydy]

Just done a big tesco click and collect order to pick up on tuesday morning. Should keep me going for about a month.

[Pepe]

My Sunday League cancelled. :cry:

Toilet paper was out yesterday. People finally panicking, lol.

[Pepe]

We should make a 'which TTHer will get it first' poll. The smart money is on Magic, I'd say.

[Lewis]

That is shit. Do you think any clubs will go under?

Probably not, but they might feel it for a few seasons.

They were taking staff numbers/contact details today for their essential/non-essential lists, so we're definitely on for a couple of weeks off if the government steps its business up. I offered to work for double money but health and safety fascism wins again.

[Yevrah]

Huge article, but one that's worth reading.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

The tldr message is that every single country where this is present agrees that you need to flatten the curve to allow the up to 20% of people who will need medical care when they contract it to get that care, it's only our country (and possibly the US) that disagrees on how you do that.

If we're wrong, then fuck me.

[Lewis]

We should make a 'which TTHer will get it first' poll. The smart money is on Magic, I'd say.

'Daws', but he got it off one of the Group ignoring their symptoms to run an errand for him, so officially which TTHer got it first?

[Yevrah]

One of us may well already have had it. The government's 5-10,000 people may have it line yesterday is pure fantasy and they know that.

[Magic]

We should make a 'which TTHer will get it first' poll. The smart money is on Magic, I'd say.

Why is that then. My immune system is thrice the strength of a normal man, and my hygiene levels are disturbingly high.

Plus I work from home, so I'm not exposed to filthy offices.

[Yevrah]

Spain are stepping things up even further apparently, by rationing goods.

[Magic]

Spain are stepping things up even further apparently, by rationing goods.

Somebody in my college class (yesterday) had just returned from Madrid on Monday, they went in to full lockdown on Tuesday. She said not a single fuck was given at either airport. She's probably killed us all.

[Lewis]

There goes my Spain trip.

[Pepe]

Why is that then.

Because you just got a new job, so your luck needs to balance itself back to its own shitty equilibrium.

[bruhnaldo]

We should make a 'which TTHer will get it first' poll. The smart money is on Magic, I'd say.

Can I bet on myself cause lol

[bruhnaldo]

So the infected guy who came to my county from New York on that plane yesterday... well a handful of those people on that plane ended up at one of our sister facilities but long story short bc they showed no symptoms there's literally nothing they can do so they sent them home lol

[Lewis]

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Can't see any of us Top Reds getting it. :cool:

[Yevrah]

The US are closing schools (which I don't necessarily think is a good idea), but as a result we're now standing alone in our approach to this.

[Boydy]

Upstairs neighbour has started blasting Lewis Capaldi. Maybe working from home isn't going to be as great as I thought.

[Bernanke]

Bolsonaro supposedly has it. :drool:

[Yevrah]

Majority of people in the UK need to get a mild dose of coronavirus for "herd immunity", chief scientific adviser says

I do wonder if these people are now likening themselves to modern day Turing's and Churchill's and have run mad as a result.

I get the logic behind that quote, but there's no way in hell you can manage that happening in any way that would get a certain and desired result.

[Kikó]

Get a tv binge watchalong thread going. Not for Downton Abbey though, something good.

Get on the Americans. I'm in season 2. BRILLIANT/

[niko_cee]

Apparently we have 5 ICU beds here, that's it.

:|

[Kikó]

I do wonder if these people are now likening themselves to modern day Turing's and Churchill's and have run mad as a result.

I get the logic behind that quote, but there's no way in hell you can manage that happening in any way that would get a certain and desired result.

Especially if it means 5m people die getting to "herd immunity".

[Boydy]

Get on the Americans. I'm in season 2. BRILLIANT/

Already seen it. Loved it though. You're in for a treat.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm currently finding extremely weird the juxtaposition between the whole world shutting down, and, at work, everything carrying on completely as normal. I guess this is our WW2, but this time the conscription is to our sofas.

[Boydy]

Huge article, but one that's worth reading.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

The tldr message is that every single country where this is present agrees that you need to flatten the curve to allow the up to 20% of people who will need medical care when they contract it to get that care, it's only our country (and possibly the US) that disagrees on how you do that.

If we're wrong, then fuck me.

This makes our approach seem terrifying.

[Lewis]

We're Simon the IT man turning over in the air. We're going to land on our wheels, pull over, and be like what were you worried about?

[Max Power]

Proper end of term feel in the office this afternoon. Not confirmed to work from home YET though.

[Disco]

I'm currently finding extremely weird the juxtaposition between the whole world shutting down, and, at work, everything carrying on completely as normal. I guess this is our WW2, but this time the conscription is to our sofas.

Beyond it being a point of conversation it's business as usual here.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Beyond it being a point of conversation it's business as usual here.

Exactly the same. Zero prospect of working from home and none of our customers have changed their behaviour at all. I guess it's herd immunity for me.

[Giggles]

They should have rationed here. Fucking imbeciles.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Irish and Australian panic buying seems to have gone off worse than British. I'd have had us down as the selfish cunts.

[John Arne]

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Does this mean a cure is imminent?

[phonics]

Ted Cruz quarantined himself and within 24 hours came into contact with someone else with it so has gone back in :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Dr Ted Ross has (in not so many words) come out against our strategy, so hopefully that might force them into change.

[Ian]

By the way did we already discuss that there is an excellently-named pandemic specialist man called Dr. Larry Brilliant?

[Yevrah]

Dr Ted Ross has (in not so many words) come out against our strategy, so hopefully that might force them into change.

What did he say and where?

[Yevrah]

When are today's Italian numbers out?

[SincereTheRebel]

If the virus does not end one of us from TTH, I will be disappointed.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What did he say and where?

'Don't let this fire burn'. It's on the BBC.

[Yevrah]

"Do not just let this fire burn" - that's what World Health Organization director Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warned governments at the WHO daily press conference.

He urged countries to “find, isolate, test and treat every case to break the chains of transmission”. Every case found reduced the risk of spread, he said.

More than 132,000 cases have been reported from 123 countries, and 5,000 people have died.

A new fund has been created that individuals and non-governmental organisations and businesses can contribute to for medical supplies and funding.

The WHO reiterated that "every person on the planet" should know the signs and symptoms of coronavirus - fever, dry cough and a sore threat, as well as difficulty breathing for some people.

Found Ted Ross' updates. Make you right Jim, this contradicts significantly what we're doing. I got the impression yesterday we won't even be testing people for much longer.

[Luca]

Ekdal, Colley, La Gumina, and Thorsby from Sampdoria all positive.

[mugbull]

I've never seen anyone more interested in anything than Yevrah on coronavirus watch

[Manc]

The more deaths the harder his erection.

[Giggles]

The more deaths the harder his erection.

Who, Yev? I’d say he’s wanking furiously over a chart where he’s mapped all the deaths.

[Pepe]

Trump to declare national emergency apparently. :drool:

[Kikó]

Yev in disaster mode is a thing of beauty.

[Yevrah]

I find it all absolutely fascinating, with the extra frisson that the UK have now introduced making it all the more intriguing.

I'd also say that I have no medical, scientific or epidemiological knowledge whatsoever, but from a purely common sense/bullshit test approach have donned the fuck out of what should have been done early doors and largely continued since.

[Pepe]

Imagine how many deaths we would have without you.

[Kikó]

I find it all absolutely fascinating, with the extra frisson that the UK have now introduced making it all the more intriguing.

I'd also say that I have no medical, scientific or epidemiological knowledge whatsoever, but from a purely common sense/bullshit test approach have donned the fuck out of what should have been done early doors and largely continued since.

You are no medical, scientific or epidemiological knowledge expert, you are Yevrah.

[niko_cee]

Italy doing 5% of the total death toll in a day is good going.

[Yevrah]

Imagine how many deaths we would have without you.

I don't wish to take credit for the lives I've saved, I'm not Bono, I'm Yevrah.

[Pepe]

Anyone trying to demonstrate how much they are donning it should head over to Metaculus and start doing some predictions.

[John Arne]

https://gyazo.com/b418a6fbaeb392450a2561918a278c89.jpeg

[John Arne]

UK ENTERS TOP 10!!

Top 12 by total new cases.

https://gyazo.com/8fc5e021d9412b70fbcce95318e19af7.jpeg

[John Arne]

Russia, Indonesia, India and Pakistan continue to report <100 cases. Baffling.

[Yevrah]

Anyone trying to demonstrate how much they are donning it should head over to Metaculus and start doing some predictions.

It's not predictions as such, just a healthy challenge for anyone claiming anything. If it doesn't pass the bullshit test, I'm not having it.

Not closing schools? Passes
Not shutting down flights when it was apparent this was as contagious as an STD in an Olympic Village? Nope, not having it.

[bruhnaldo]

We got some work to do if we wanna get into the Corona League places

[Pepe]

It's not predictions as such, just a healthy challenge for anyone claiming anything. If it doesn't pass the bullshit test, I'm not having it.

Not closing schools? Passes
Not shutting down flights when it was apparent this was as contagious as an STD in an Olympic Village? Nope, not having it.

Not talking about you specifically. Just in general.

You should check it out, bet you'd have some fun:

https://pandemic.metaculus.com/questions/

[Giggles]

If we still had a proper IRA they could pick off all those cunts returning from the horse racing. We’re going to have a massive spike in the next few days because of the selfish bastards.

[phonics]

Just stopping by to inform that I’ve been stealing the Ted Ross bit and using it in public. (I work literally a block from his office and know several people in that sector)

They all look at me like a complete weirdo but I stand by it being a good bit.

[Yevrah]

Those Italy numbers are formidable.

If they haven't stemmed it and that death rate continues to grow like that they're going to have 100,000 dead from this by early April.

[Yevrah]

Not talking about you specifically. Just in general.

You should check it out, bet you'd have some fun:

https://pandemic.metaculus.com/questions/

It's very interesting. Median number of cases predicted by end of 2020 of 188m.

[Pepe]

It's very interesting. Median number of cases predicted by end of 2020 of 188m.

Will probably be even higher.


DavidMathers discussed Metaculus 3 hours 32 min ago
Range of allowed predictions strikes me as too low here. Plenty experts seem to think it'll be over 50% of people in most countries.

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Jotto replied 3 hours 9 min ago
@DavidMathers You're right. A second question that goes higher is opening soon here: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/3835/how-…

[Pepe]

Did the forum get the coronavirus? Getting database errors.

[Giggles]

Did the forum get the coronavirus? Getting database errors.

Yev was 30 seconds away from topping himself before it came back.

[Boydy]

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Great.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My colleague (who is nice, but loves a conspiracy theory) reckons the nature of our response is down to Dominic Cummings wanting to kill off a chunk of the population.

I asked him why the Chief Medical Officer etc would listen to Dominic Cummings on these matters, but he just said it again.

[Giggles]

My colleague (who is nice, but loves a conspiracy theory) reckons the nature of our response is down to Dominic Cummings wanting to kill off a chunk of the population.

I asked him why the Chief Medical Officer etc would listen to Dominic Cummings on these matters, but he just said it again.

A large envelope or threat of the Diana treatment?

[Foe]

Apparently we are working from home until 15th April. Although our boss is about to reign that back in for essential personnel, ie chumps like me.

[Yevrah]

I'm not into conspiracy theories and I sure as shit don't buy that one, but something about this approach doesn't sit comfortably.

And as I'm typing that I've just had a text from my GP's saying:


If you have a routine appointment today or in the near future PLEASE DO NOT COME IN, we've suspended all face to face appointments. If you have one booked you will receive a phone call on the day instead

Unless there's been an outbreak there, which there very well may have been, how the hell does that fit in with the government advice from yesterday?

[Jimmy Floyd]

As far as I can see, everyone is ignoring the government advice and shutting down anyway. Even at my work, the most backward industry going, the MD came round at the end of the day enquiring about people's capacity to work from home should they need to. The old bag in shipping snapped a firm 'No! My team comes into the office!' at him, and he told her to fuck off in front of everyone. That was fun.

Personally I think the best thing the government could be doing right now is paying all the streaming services to open everything up for free, whacking a load of great old stuff on the BBC channels and saying stay indoors everybody.

[Boydy]

A large envelope or threat of the Diana treatment?
The Dr David Kelly treatment.

[Yevrah]

As far as I can see, everyone is ignoring the government advice and shutting down anyway.

Personally I think the best thing the government could be doing right now is paying all the streaming services to open everything up for free, whacking a load of great old stuff on the BBC channels and saying stay indoors everybody.

This was touched on yesterday, which means they've already fucked up their behavioural science wank.

[Mike]

No signs of school closing, we just have to get the kids to actually wash their hands, pretty sure they had an assembly to show them how:|. In better news though, classrooms all now have soap in them by the sinks and there is even hushed talk that the Y2 boys toilet sinks might be fixed as only one out of four has worked for about a year now. There has however been an acorn on the staff toilet floor for over a week now, which shows just how well they're cleaned each evening.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This was touched on yesterday, which means they've already fucked up their behavioural science wank.

I've just googled behavioural science and the first thing I see is a fucking concepts pyramid, that alone has me locking the doors to be honest.

[Pepe]

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1238532381063200768

[Kikó]

Our amateur football association has decided to crack on with this weekends fixtures. Absolutely reckless from the dickless twats.

Lucky you're in off season Jimmy. I'm sure you'd see the same in cricket.

[Lewis]

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1238532381063200768

You start to think there might be something in his round-the-clock shitfitting, but then you see him recommending not to eat bread or valet park and you write it off as another one of his crank outbursts.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Our amateur football association has decided to crack on with this weekends fixtures. Absolutely reckless from the dickless twats.

Lucky you're in off season Jimmy. I'm sure you'd see the same in cricket.

I think we would, yes. I'm kind of responsible for these decisions at my club and because we're in off season I have happily hidden behind 'I will continue to monitor government advice and keep you updated', but if we were in season I think everyone would be carrying on and I'd be sitting on my hands wondering whether to be the party pooper. Two days ago we had a record turnout at winter training and 15 blokes to the pub afterwards.

[mugbull]

Nassim Taleb is the worst “popular science” personality of them all

[Jimmy Floyd]

Our amateur football association has decided to crack on with this weekends fixtures. Absolutely reckless from the dickless twats.

Lucky you're in off season Jimmy. I'm sure you'd see the same in cricket.

I think we would, yes. I'm kind of responsible for these decisions at my club and because we're in off season I have happily hidden behind 'I will continue to monitor government advice and keep you updated', but if we were in season I think everyone would be carrying on and I'd be sitting on my hands wondering whether to be the party pooper. Two days ago we had a record turnout at winter training and 15 blokes to the pub afterwards.

People who aren't reading around the subject just haven't been switched onto it at all and it's only maybe today when the reality has started to hit home, but even then I'm not sure.

[Kikó]

I think we would, yes. I'm kind of responsible for these decisions at my club and because we're in off season I have happily hidden behind 'I will continue to monitor government advice and keep you updated', but if we were in season I think everyone would be carrying on and I'd be sitting on my hands wondering whether to be the party pooper. Two days ago we had a record turnout at winter training and 15 blokes to the pub afterwards.

People who aren't reading around the subject just haven't been switched onto it at all and it's only maybe today when the reality has started to hit home, but even then I'm not sure.

Exactly the same communications we are getting. The fixture secretary was basically JUST GET ON WITH IT.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30195-X/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR3OX6l3ZWRgecGAgZr0zGoBultIDZJn Ra_w5aMulgy1G7NmuQZWeNwuirE

Also- 20%.

[Lewis]

Speaking of which:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/mar/13/rfl-super-league-fixtures-leeds-pull-out-catalans-coronovirus

The Greatest Game. :cool:

[Disco]

As far as I can see, everyone is ignoring the government advice and shutting down anyway. Even at my work, the most backward industry going, the MD came round at the end of the day enquiring about people's capacity to work from home should they need to. The old bag in shipping snapped a firm 'No! My team comes into the office!' at him, and he told her to fuck off in front of everyone. That was fun.

Personally I think the best thing the government could be doing right now is paying all the streaming services to open everything up for free, whacking a load of great old stuff on the BBC channels and saying stay indoors everybody.

Still not a peep from ours and I don't expect one, I'm intrigued to see what it might take.

[phonics]

I was trying to look on the bright side of this whole situation but I saw this and just went into a fugue state.

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[Disco]

That's about as bleak as it gets, is TeamPanic still accepting applications?

[Giggles]

The true cost of this crisis hits home.

[Yevrah]

It's the government intervening with the schedule to keep people outside and spreading it.

[Magic]

Shit my doctors is closed after loads of people tested positive. I was there on Monday for unrelated tests.

[Yevrah]

Shit my doctors is closed after loads of people tested positive. I was there on Monday for unrelated tests.

Sounds like that's what's happened at mine then. 5 to 10 thousand cases was an absolutely laughable claim.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Still not a peep from ours and I don't expect one, I'm intrigued to see what it might take.

Assuming you're involved in some kind of work involving selling objects (like I am), and the customer base is blue collar, I think it'll need an actual government ban including enforcement before anything happens. I think my lot have only been rocked into action because our 76 year old vice president (far from the oldest at the company) has self isolated because his wife is on dialysis and this could finish her off.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I reckon I might have a very minor creeping temperature btw. I'll PM my address to Bamster in case anyone needs my jars of lemon curd after I die.

[Magic]

I've got a cough. I had pneumonia last Feb, am I at risk?

[Yevrah]

I work in a subsidiary of a large company and we took the decision locally today to stop all forms of non-essential meetings/visits where travel is involved, largely to stop key people (Branch Managers mostly) all being in the same confined place at the same time and giving it to each other. We don't have many branches and if one or two of the larger ones were to go down we'd be in the shit from a generating enough funds to keep paying sick/isolated people perspective.

Probably the most surreal conversation I've ever participated in at work.

[Waffdon]

Shit my doctors is closed after loads of people tested positive. I was there on Monday for unrelated tests.

Lol. Girl that works at Gillies who was in Italy. I was planning on going to the Ferry tomorrow to drink. Hopefully means less busy

[Shindig]

Parents-in-law are meant to be going to New York next week. They're trying to see if they can get their money back, but it's looking like a no-go unless Trump extends the ban to the UK.

I take it they don't fancy their chances?

[Kikó]

Donald is struggling.

[Yevrah]

Looks like Nadine Dorries may be about to off her 84 year old mother with it.

[Giggles]

Sorry Yev.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51878050

[Yevrah]

Sorry Yev.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51878050

That's the way it works though. 3 waves of "Ooh, that doesn't feel great", followed by "I feel fine", followed by "Oh shit, I really don't". With each wave getting worse.

[Disco]

Assuming you're involved in some kind of work involving selling objects (like I am), and the customer base is blue collar, I think it'll need an actual government ban including enforcement before anything happens. I think my lot have only been rocked into action because our 76 year old vice president (far from the oldest at the company) has self isolated because his wife is on dialysis and this could finish her off.

Bit of supply, bit of manufacture. But yes, I reckon nothing short of legal obligation will make them do anything. To the white van man section of our customers it's something happening on the news, the rest are the second home brigade who will still be redoing the conservatory when the bombs are falling. Our national sales guy is driving back and forth across the country for various things (Newport to Sevenoaks on Monday) and my flu-ridden spluttering MD was happily planning to go to London for a meeting with a customer before they banned anyone coming to their offices.