Coronavirus Death Thread

[Magic]

Absolute horseshit. As Taz says, we won't stand for this bullshit much longer and indeed the youth has already broken it almost every day since it was imposed.

Our freedom will return.

[Spikey M]

I am noticing progressively more people out and about. They're either going to have to loosen the reigns or clamp down hard. This wishy washy shite isn't working and the people that are doing what they're told are getting the ump with it.

[7om]

I'm so happy angry Magic is back.

[Don]

That's the key, with the average level of compliance with the measures, it's working, no need to come down on the rebellious minority as a matter of urgency. The question is how long before the people who are following it all start taking back control through a combination of resentment at the selfish minority and (more significantly IMO) their own increasing inability to cope.

Let's see how this shitty weather affects us in next 2 weeks.

[Magic]

I'm so happy angry Magic is back.

I am angry. I am in the absolute prime of my life, the happiest I've ever been, the most curious I've ever been. I'm not so angry at Corona, obviously, but the pathetic way our shithouse govt has dealt with it. Shinners comment on the earlier page about us doing it 'the british way' is a perfect description.

Though some amazing things have happened to me during the lockdown period as well that wouldn't have otherwise. So it's not all bad.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The wishy washy approach is probably the best way of doing it, really. If most people follow the rules but a few people take the piss, that's better than either a) having to put in place the massive infrastructure required to enforce a stricter lockdown, and the authoritarian atmosphere that would result, or b) opening it up and letting covid dance a light fandango through everyone's lungs.

[Spikey M]

The wishy washy approach is probably the best way of doing it, really. If most people follow the rules but a few people take the piss, that's better than either a) having to put in place the massive infrastructure required to enforce a stricter lockdown, and the authoritarian atmosphere that would result, or b) opening it up and letting covid dance a light fandango through everyone's lungs.

It's also the way that takes the fucking longest.

[Boydy]

Magic got pegged.

[ScousePig]

My structure is helped massively by remote learning. It can keep me busy for a good few hours during the day, and with other bits such as curriculum progression maps being updated at the moment and being in school once a week, there's enough work to be getting on with. I see plenty of people when I'm out exercising but that doesn't have any effect on me.

[Spikey M]

Magic got pegged.

And it sounds like she fisted it in.

[bruhnaldo]

I've realised this morning that the foreseeable future for everyone, once the gradual lockdown begins to ease, will basically be what I happen to have been experiencing up until this point: a semi-permanent state of work all week, nothing to look forward to at the weekend.

It's fucking awful and will leave us with collective PTSD for years.

I just realized not everyone is going through exactly this already and I feel even more exhausted all of a sudden.

[bruhnaldo]

Powerful stuff from the Queen of America.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWlU8aBXsAAP3lJ?format=jpg&name=large

[Ian]

Man, really makes you think, doesn't it?

[Spikey M]

Powerful stuff from the Queen of America.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWlU8aBXsAAP3lJ?format=jpg&name=large

Why are you following her?

[bruhnaldo]

You mean outside of being the most influential woman on the planet?

(I don't actually someone just posted this screen as a tweet)

[Kikó]

Are we living in the blue part?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh shit, flat earthers were right.

I don't see a curve.

[niko_cee]

It's been flattened.

Probably got her to sit on it.

[Disco]

I'm sure the world is normally higher res than that.

[Ian]

Oh aye and you've seen it from space, have you?

[Disco]

Yes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52445696

Greggs is back, we're saved.

[Yevrah]

This is rapidly turning into a bit of farce. Businesses and people initially closed/locked down before the government were officially telling them to and now the opposite is beginning to happen.

[Waffdon]

Ninewells in Dundee is absolutely empty. Get the fucking pubs open. Looks more empty than a Saturday morning in A&E.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Virgin seems to have shit the bed today.

[Magic]

Ninewells in Dundee is absolutely empty. Get the fucking pubs open. Looks more empty than a Saturday morning in A&E.

They all are. My step-dad who drives for out of hours says he's starting to get mong visits again. It's on, lads.

[Magic]

Virgin seems to have shit the bed today.

Also yes. Been flaky as fuck all day.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also yes. Been flaky as fuck all day.

My connection was alright until an hour ago. I reset my router and it came back on for about 20 minutes but has been dead since.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Fair fucks to the behavioural scientists, to think I ever doubted them.

[Boydy]

I hope they keep Dundee on lockdown longer than everywhere else just to piss Waff off.

[Magic]

My connection was alright until an hour ago. I reset my router and it came back on for about 20 minutes but has been dead since.

Still using THE HUB? :harold:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Still using THE HUB? :harold:
Only as a modem.

I have an Asus router.

Edit: Back up \0/.

[Spikey M]

Our unemployed Wifi Solutions Sales Administrator is looking for some freelance work.

[7om]

Our unemployed Wifi Solutions Sales Administrator is looking for some freelance work.

He's an engineer, you idiot.

[phonics]

Lads i ordered a Big Mac, it told me they were preparing my order, and then they weren't and it's 30 minutes late. The world is falling apart.

[bruhnaldo]

Is the drive thru down ?

[Spikey M]

He's an engineer, you idiot.

Was.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52450692

President Donald Trump has said he "can't imagine why" US hotline calls about disinfectant have risen after he suggested injecting the substance to treat coronavirus.

The governors of Michigan and Maryland on Sunday blamed the president for the spike in such calls.

"I can't imagine why," the president said, moving quickly on. "I can't imagine that."

When asked whether he took responsibility at all for the increase in calls, Mr Trump replied: "No, I don't."

Mong.

[Lewis]

He shouldn't as well. He was doing his usual rambling bollocks, and he used the word 'disinfectant' because presumably he couldn't remember any scientific terms for what he meant, and then all the retards started lolling to each other about drinking bleach.

[Luca]

Sure, but he could have taken the responsibility to say "look, what I was actually talking about was obviously x, not drinking bleach, you mongs." Instead he went on TV the next day and gave it the old fourth grade "bUt I wAs BeInG sArCaStIc" excuse.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The more interesting part of that diatribe for me was his proposal to inject UV light into the body 'through the skin or some other way'. I would love to know what the other way might be. Shone directly up the rectum, not touching the sides?

[Shindig]

Y'see, Elon Musk has an idea ....

[Spikey M]

Hopefully it's drinking bleach.

[Boydy]

He's gonna call the virus a paedo.

[Don]

There was an entertaining exchange last night where an Asian reporter tried to ask a Q in broken English which began by quoting a letter by Kim Jong-Un and she barely got 5 words out before being shut down and laughed off :D

[hfswjyr]

If we've learned anything through this ordeal, it's that Trump doesn't know what sarcasm is. Maybe that's why he is the way he is. He's been taking all the sarcastic comments around him at face value this whole time.

[Magic]

Virgin still fucked today. It looks like their DHCP servers keep renewing the connection, rather than any congestion or throttling.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's Dickie Branson holding the nation to ransom until he gets his bail out.

[Disco]

If we've learned anything through this ordeal, it's that Trump doesn't know what sarcasm is. Maybe that's why he is the way he is. He's been taking all the sarcastic comments around him at face value this whole time.

As if he listens to anyone/anything that isn't his own voice.

[Smjffy]

Out of curiosity, has anyone on here experienced a shift in mental health in this past week in particular? Like, far more emotional than you'd like to admit?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yes, but I'm better at admitting it these days.

Weekend and Monday were rough. Today is somehow better.

[Smjffy]

I've always been a bit of an emotionally sap but this week specifically I feel crushed. Not so much as in going down a dark route, just really sad and upset at everything. All the deaths, the uncertainty, obviously the whole furlough bollocks that I and others are still fighting. It's all become rather draining. On the flip side, it's brought people out of the wood work that I would never have even remembered had they not got in touch on Facebook which in turns upsets as it makes you remember (or struggle to do so with my memory).

I noticed my brother who is usually a rock and unemotional posted a long sincere message to our community yesterday which probably set me off even more.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Worked out why today is better. It's the rain. Feeling low in the rain is a lot easier than feeling low in the sun.

[Ian]

My overwhelming feeling at this point is one of boredom.

[phonics]

Worked out why today is better. It's the rain. Feeling low in the rain is a lot easier than feeling low in the sun.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow0dlCS2HH4

[Yevrah]

Out of curiosity, has anyone on here experienced a shift in mental health in this past week in particular? Like, far more emotional than you'd like to admit?

I did at the start. Couple of cries in the shower if memory serves.

Seem to have adjusted fine now though. Well, apart from sleep, which is fucked. Not because things are on my mind, but I'm just not tired until silly o'clock.

[Don]

My latest hypothesis is that the general consensus that this will lead to a decline in mental welfare may actually be incorrect and that it'll go the other way.

Let's be under no illusions, a lead pipe into the wheel of capitalism will have clear benefits, people's perspectives alter as a result. Marketing (be it corporate or self-promotion on social media) and social hierarchies are hindered, endless distractions are cut and people revert back to basics and get in touch with their consciousness. That will be a positive, even if it does mean people have to tackle their demons. In fact, not doing so may well be what the system has so successfully accomodated and which has led to the mental health epidemic of recent times.

Jesus, that's some gold right there, give me a day to focus it a bit more, weave/crowbar in some bullshit quote like Stendhal: "a man can acquire anything in solitude except a character" and I may yet come out of this lockdown as the next fucking Alain De Botton.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The eventual release (as in psychological release, rather than the literal release from lockdown) will be truly epic. It just ain't happening yet.

[Boydy]

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[Lofty]

As if he listens to anyone/anything that isn't his own voice.

The problem is apparently he agrees with whatever the last person he spoke to said.

[Spikey M]

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Surely that's skewed massively by Italy et al having their peak during Flu season / peak mortality season? Ours spiked at the time of year that those deaths normally drop off.

[Don]

Austria have a z-score of -11 on that website. What in the sweet name of George Romero is going on over in Vienna?

[Disco]

They've established extra Fritzl dungeons to skew the figures.

[Serj]

"Social distancing" is basically our normal way of doing things, so this really is our time to shine.

[Boydy]

Surely that's skewed massively by Italy et al having their peak during Flu season / peak mortality season? Ours spiked at the time of year that those deaths normally drop off.

The normal range is on the graph.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We know that our recorded covid deaths are roughly the same as all theirs, so our increase must be in other deaths.

[Lewis]

The real Boris Johnson dying counts as a thousand deaths.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Dominic Cummings has five spare Boris Johnsons growing in his greenhouse.

[Lewis]

He has a load of lookalikes like Saddam Hussein. Two of them alternate shifts driving the bus past Carole Madwoman's house.

[Boydy]

It struck me yesterday that now would be a good time for a TTH werewolf game. One of you furloughed lot run one.

[Revolution]

My neighbour didn't have covid. Some other bacteria apparently. Leedsrevolution lives another day.

[niko_cee]

Well, I bet that's a relief for him and what's left of his spine.

[-james-]

One thing I've noticed, probably down to the dramatic drop in brain stimulus during the day, is that my dreams have become incredibly vivid. Feel like i'm spending a lot of my day dissecting whatever nonsense I dreamed the night before.

[Don]

My neighbour didn't have covid. Some other bacteria apparently. Leedsrevolution lives another day.

:D

In the words of Waff/Baz, get the fucking pubs open.

[Revolution]

Well, I bet that's a relief for him and what's left of his spine.

Dont give a fuck about him. It's a relief for me who went round to help. Too late for him, no need to take me down with him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Either Sainsburys has really relaxed their social distancing policies or the person in charge of letting people in was shit today.

Easily the most amount of people I've encountered whilst in the supermarket and there were a couple of aisles which had way too much people in them and people didn't know what to do.

Also, it's absolutely pissing it down here.

[Luca]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/g9kzks/id_watch_these_coronavirus_protests_for_hours/

This video is tremendous. "It's not a virus...it's political science!"

[Foe]

Either Sainsburys has really relaxed their social distancing policies or the person in charge of letting people in was shit today.

Easily the most amount of people I've encountered whilst in the supermarket and there were a couple of aisles which had way too much people in them and people didn't know what to do.

Also, it's absolutely pissing it down here.

I mean surely it’s down to them to realise they should keep their distance. You can’t police it forever, people need to police themselves if they care about it.

Definitely an increase in activity though. I’ve noticed it on my wanders, youths out kicking a ball about, older folk chatting in gardens and even saw a couple today call on someone for a visit.

Not that I give a shit, but I imagine there’s a large proportion of the population taking satisfaction from reporting others.

Also, there’s corona in the care home where my nan is. She’s not had a clue who I was when I’ve visited the last few years but still a little unnerving. :(

[Spoonsky]

That whole subreddit is a gold mine right now.

[Adramelch]

Football and rugby are a no-go until September in France.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We've now opened up testing to anyone who has to leave home for work. I wonder if they'd let me qualify under those rules.

Oh, and looks like the bosch are having to re-tighten their lockdown. Strap in boys.

[bruhnaldo]

Basically we've decided to let everyone die for the economy, so, this shit (unlike my life which I will soon take) is going to go on until 2022.

[Adramelch]

I mean, what did they expect would happen? Magically the infection rate would remain the same even though there's a lot more interactions between (possibly asymptomatic) people?

[Boydy]

Basically we've decided to let everyone die for the economy, so, this shit (unlike my life which I will soon take) is going to go on until 2022.

Bruh. :(

[Bam]

Oh, and looks like the bosch are having to re-tighten their lockdown. Strap in boys.

That should put the Bundesliga to bed which should therefore put pressure on the Premier League to end our season. Victimpool don't win the league and we all have a good laugh!

:youpi:

[ScousePig]

Or they win it without having to set foot on the pitch again.

[Bam]

Nah. Season is null and void, they get fuck all. Leeds also getting shafted for the double whammy.

[Shindig]

Yeah, nobody will be miffed if they just hand it to them. It's not like they haven't earned it. Relegation and promotions will all just be frozen. I can't see anything restarting now. Especially with FIFA saying, "Fuck it. Just think more about next season."

[Jimmy Floyd]

What will actually stop them restarting is the negative PR and brand damage if they attempt to.

[Bam]

Do we hand the FA Cup and CL to whoever we think deserves it also?

[Don]

I mean, what did they expect would happen? Magically the infection rate would remain the same even though there's a lot more interactions between (possibly asymptomatic) people?

Ya, I don't get why the scientists talk of reducing the R when the intrinsic value of the R for the virus remains at 2.6 (or whatever) and bounces back up to that as soon as Greggs opens their door. Is this understanding fundamentally wrong? Because if not, it's essential this is explained to the public so they understand there's no way out of this before a vaccine. BBC News had them showing the R number as some sort of gameshow gauge which went up and down and we could ease the lockdown and only increase it to 1 if we're careful. Fuck off, mate, it's taking 2.6 people with it, it doesn't care for your shit political strategising and telling mongs to give each other space as if that's gonna be adhered.

Also, vaccine comes out, what actually hapens at that point. I don't want to go on some anti-vaxxer vibe bit they won't make it compulsory will they? But then if they don't, what prevents it crushing the healthcare system again? Compulsory for the infirm?

[Shindig]

Do we hand the FA Cup and CL to whoever we think deserves it also?

Yes, give the FA Cup to Newcastle. We've really earned it through our amazing, watched-by-all televised cup ties.

[Bam]

Yes, give the FA Cup to Newcastle. We've really earned it through our amazing, watched-by-all televised cup ties.

:D

[ScousePig]

Nah. Season is null and void, they get fuck all. Leeds also getting shafted for the double whammy.

Coventry for the hat-trick, I guess.

[Spikey M]

And Southend stay up. :drool:

[ScousePig]

What will actually stop them restarting is the negative PR and brand damage if they attempt to.

What about the financial and contractual implications? If they decided to continue this season in say September, or next Easter or whatever, there will be all that on top of anything else.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What about the financial and contractual implications? If they decided to continue this season in say September, or next Easter or whatever, there will be all that on top of anything else.

Concern number one is to keep the gravy train on the tracks in the long run, and if they wail and gnash their teeth about restarting any time soon, or short-term money concerns, there's a very good chance it could derail completely amid a negative publicity storm. You saw what happened a month ago when they started furloughing junior staff, and Garies Lineker and Neville had to work overtime going through the entire quote-tweet emoji handbook to keep the bhajis on the trolley then. They even wheeled out some ghost author writing under Wayne Rooney's name to do a SEETHING column.

If they start trying to claim themselves as a special exemption to lockdown while everyone's granny is expiring in care homes, and before schools and offices are back, they'll be fucked for years. People remember.

[ScousePig]

There's a bit of that now, as football has gradually crept back onto the scene, at least as much as is feasible.

I keep expecting some kind of announcement, but what you say is probably sound justification for why it hasn't come. But in all honesty, would a negative publicity storm really have that much of an effect in the medium/long-term?

[Jimmy Floyd]

It would. Being hardcore football fans, it's easy to forget that the money bubble they have generated for themselves is largely on the back of two things: 1) oil states laundering, and 2) general public buying Sky Sports subscriptions. Even if 1) continues (which is by no means certain), 2) is seriously threatened already by the pandemic as people are having to cut back on luxuries - not that there's any sport on anyway - and how quick will they be to dunk sixty quid a month back into a Sky box once this gradually comes to an end? How quick will the gingerly re-opening pubs be to pay 18 grand or whatever it is for their public Sky sub?

If the pay TV model that has ruled football for the last 20 years comes to an end, so will the Premier League's financial supremacy. Having an appearance of being grubby stinking fucks at this point would be fatal to that.

[Shindig]

The TV bit's even more prescient if, as it has been rumoured, the rest of this season goes free-to-air.

[Spikey M]

I'd be all for finishing the season if the games were free to air. The players safety isn't really an issue when they're all attending each others gangbangs anyway.

[Lewis]

Could that Dominic Cummings story have got any better? Turns out yes it could (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-28/top-aide-to-u-k-s-johnson-pushed-scientists-to-back-lockdown):


Boris Johnson’s most powerful political aide pressed the U.K.’s independent scientific advisers to recommend lockdown measures in an effort to stop the spread of coronavirus, according to people familiar with the matter... Speaking on condition of anonymity because the meetings are private, the people said Cummings asked why a lockdown was not being imposed sooner, swayed the discussion toward faster action, and made clear he thought pubs and restaurants should be closed within two days. They then were.

:lol:

[phonics]

Did those anonymous sources that said Dominic Cummings was a top lad happen to be Dominic Cummings and Dominic Cummings?

[Lewis]

Possibly. He's everywhere and anywhere.

[Yevrah]

Interesting that your hero held the same opinion as me. One that IIRC you weren't particularly onside with at the time.

[Lewis]

I wasn't. I'm lolling at everyone chimping out to the original story by assuming he would have influenced them in the opposite direction.

[John Arne]

Schools reopen on Monday over here, with each kid given 9 reuseable cotton masks that they must wear until further notice.

Four day weekend from tomorrow - it's going to be interesting to see if people flock to the beaches, malls and restaurants, or whether they just stay put for a couple more days.

[Queenslander]

Schools reopen on Monday over here, with each kid given 9 reuseable cotton masks that they must wear until further notice.

Four day weekend from tomorrow - it's going to be interesting to see if people flock to the beaches, malls and restaurants, or whether they just stay put for a couple more days.

Missus kid went back on monday as schools are open to anyone with a job that cant stay home. Temp gun every morning to see if the kids are healthy.

[Magic]

Schools reopen on Monday over here, with each kid given 9 reuseable cotton masks that they must wear until further notice.

Four day weekend from tomorrow - it's going to be interesting to see if people flock to the beaches, malls and restaurants, or whether they just stay put for a couple more days.

As if kids are going to abide by that.

[Spikey M]

They should put some kind of adult in charge of each class or something.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The columnists' coffee club relationship with Deadly Dom is endlessly funny. He is the devil figure that they need in order to keep their cosy profession afloat, in the face of its utter irrelevance, but the only problem is that he is consistently correct about everything. He absolutely loves winding them up too, with his shabby clothes (the horror!), lol pronouncements and the fact that he has read things not written by one of his friends.

To be honest, I would want him in my corner in any difficult situation (newspaper columnists do not face difficult situations).

[Queenslander]

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[Kikó]

Chinese scientists reckon this is going to keep coming back https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-28/virus-is-here-to-stay-and-likely-seasonal-say-china-scientists

[Yevrah]

Have we been able to establish definitively if you have any immunity after catching it? If not, and given it's been around for 5 months now, why not?

[Kikó]

Wouldn't it be the same reason we aren't immune to the cold or flu?

[Yevrah]

Wouldn't it be the same reason we aren't immune to the cold or flu?

Maybe. But it just seems quite woolly in terms of information that's out there, or at least that I've seen. I'm no scientist..., but I would have thought within 5 months it would have been possible to ascertain if there is any immunity or not.

And I think it's important, as if there isn't any we truly are fucked as a country compared to many others.

[Ian]

The thing I read yesterday said nobody's confident about making any statements on immunity because there aren't enough examples of people who've supposedly had it twice where the initial diagnosis can't be properly verified.

You'd think we should be a bit closer to that being confirmed one way or the other though if there's testing that does actually work.

[Spikey M]

There's a Netflix 'Explained' show on Coronavirus and within that they said that we are immune to literally every other Coronavirus for 1-2 years after having them.

We're gonna need that Vaccine and it'll need updating every winter.

[niko_cee]

Most people don't really need to be immune to this, on a personal level, any more than they need immunity against the common cold. If it's not going to go away and we're going to continue shitting the bed about it then we'll just have to face the fact that all the oldies are going to have to be locked up indefinitely and/or we (and they) just live with it (or don't).

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yep. In the end we will just have to get on with it. The question is how long people are prepared to go on having human life on hold before that point. Some of them seem so hysterical that it could be quite a long time.

[Spikey M]

We're talking about a virus that is much worse than the Flu and hospitalises 20% of people. Not all of which are old people.

You can't just say 'fuck vaccines', Pensioners, asthmatics, and the rest of you sickly cunts can stay at home. I'm off to Magaluff.

Non sickly people live with sickly people and young people live with old people. If there's no herd immunity, immunised or otherwise, and we try to move back to normal then a fuck tonne of people will die and the NHS will be fucked.

[Baz]

How are people saving money during lockdown? Shopping was £130 this week. It’s normally £70 cos I eat two nights a week at my parents, and they feed my daughter three full days. Skint, man.

[Magic]

There's a Netflix 'Explained' show on Coronavirus and within that they said that we are immune to literally every other Coronavirus for 1-2 years after having them.

We're gonna need that Vaccine and it'll need updating every winter.

'We' are not, unfortunately. By the time I'm classed as old and vulnerable it'll all be over. :drool:

[Magic]

How are people saving money during lockdown? Shopping was £130 this week. It’s normally £70 cos I eat two nights a week at my parents, and they feed my daughter three full days. Skint, man.

My avg spend on my credit card was £2,000 a month. It's dropped to about £500. :(

[Ian]

Spikey I think you're really underestimating how much people want to be able to go and buy a Whopper and frankly I think you're being pretty selfish with your outlook on this.

[Baz]

Nope. Big Mac 4 lyf

[Spikey M]

How are people saving money during lockdown? Shopping was £130 this week. It’s normally £70 cos I eat two nights a week at my parents, and they feed my daughter three full days. Skint, man.

Easy. We're not doing anything. Normally, my wife takes the kids to loads of groups, my daughter has dancing and swimming lessons, I have my gym membership, we aren't going out to farms, zoos and soft plays at the weekends or eating lunch out. I also haven't needed petrol for over a month.

My wife is working more too... which I'm not so keen on.

Our food shops have gone up. Electric and gas will follow, but we're tucking away a fair bit into savings at the moment.

[Spikey M]

Spikey I think you're really underestimating how much people want to be able to go and buy a Whopper and frankly I think you're being pretty selfish with your outlook on this.

I don't doubt it, and I think we'll come out of lockdown too early and trigger a second wave. Besides, such people should be aspiring for BigMacs anyway.

[SvN]

We're spending a fortune on alcohol.

[Spikey M]

We're spending a fortune on alcohol.

I've had to force myself back onto weekends only. I think I drank every night for about 3 weeks at one point.

[Ian]

At least in these tough times some of us can agree that Whoppers are rubbish.

And I'm also trying to make a point of only drinking as I normally would and otherwise spending a stupid amount less money than I normally do.

[niko_cee]

We're talking about a virus that is much worse than the Flu and hospitalises 20% of people. Not all of which are old people.


Depending on how you define 'old', statistically speaking they are.

'Hospitalises 20% of people' also sounds both hysterical and factually inaccurate, but whatever.

Other than the return of sport, and I'm not even all that sure about that seeing as it's as much (if not more) of a burden on the soul as it is a pleasure, I'm dreading the end of lockdown. I love it. Never having to go out and do things is brilliant.

[Don]

You can't just say 'fuck vaccines', Pensioners, asthmatics, and the rest of you sickly cunts can stay at home. I'm off to Magaluff.

Quoted for posterity when everyone literally says that by next summer when people realise the world cannot function by sacrificing itself to tag a couple extra months on Margery's shit life which her own kids cared so little about they stuck her in to a random house to be spoonfed by some Eastern European.

If the vaccine doesn't look like being the clear end, they simply start pouring resources into pitching up tents and asking The King of Ventilators for some help. People also start accepting they don't have some divine right to being kept alive in the face of disease and stop living like filthy mongs eating shit and doing fuck all exercise.

[John Arne]

Have we been able to establish definitively if you have any immunity after catching it? If not, and given it's been around for 5 months now, why not?

Vietnam has just had 8 cases of people who were positive, then test negative, but have now tested positive again. However, I believe that is due to the test being a viral test, rather than a something-else test.

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnam-asks-recovered-covid-19-patients-to-stay-on-at-hospitals-4091900.html

[Spikey M]

Depending on how you define 'old', statistically speaking they are.

'Hospitalises 20% of people' also sounds both hysterical and factually inaccurate, but whatever.

Other than the return of sport, and I'm not even all that sure about that seeing as it's as much (if not more) of a burden on the soul as it is a pleasure, I'm dreading the end of lockdown. I love it. Never having to go out and do things is brilliant.

You're right on the 20% point. It's 20% of people that have been tested, which granted, the majority are not.

[John Arne]

As if kids are going to abide by that.

They will. Kids here a noisy nose-picking little cunts, but they are generally law-abiding noisy nose-picking little cunts.

https://gyazo.com/dc2db4b49147b73fae70bd875db70d68.jpeg

[Queenslander]

They will. Kids here a noisy nose-picking little cunts, but they are generally law-abiding noisy nose-picking little cunts.

https://gyazo.com/dc2db4b49147b73fae70bd875db70d68.jpeg

:cool:

[Magic]

The speccy middle one is TOUCHING HIS FACE.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSGLQoPnZJ-6TgTQPeoDFCXPjqHYxIbykT8XvugJe5sej_Uro2y&usqp=CAU

[Lewis]

I've been loving it all up to now, but it's raining again today, so I won't get a mooch in, and I find that a bit annoying. Once we're out we're out. The idea that they could recall us in the bad weather is mental.

[Andy]

I've been loving it all up to now, but it's raining again today, so I won't get a mooch in, and I find that a bit annoying. Once we're out we're out. The idea that they could recall us in the bad weather is mental.

Horrible today, I went out for 3.5 miles and got soaked, glad I went out though feel a lot better for it.

Hopefully nicer again for the weekend.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have a 5km mooch circuit and did it in the rain last night, after a day's work it is absolutely brutal. It does take in such sights as a care home full of corpses, Hampton Court Palace, and a poncey cafe/bakery which has converted itself into selling 'sourdough and fresh eggs, one customer at a time'. Surrey will never change.

[Lofty]

My in laws are going for a test tomorrow because they reckon the test tells you if you have already had it, that's not right is it?

[Baz]

My in laws are going for a test tomorrow because they reckon the test tells you if you have already had it, that's not right is it?

Nope.

[Spikey M]

My in laws are going for a test tomorrow because they reckon the test tells you if you have already had it, that's not right is it?

Not unless they know somewhere you can get the antibody test. How are they getting a test just because they fancy one?

[Waffdon]

You can sign up and go to Edinburgh airport for one.

[mugbull]

I'm with Jimmy on weather moods. I feel much happier about staying in and not having fun if the weather's shit, and I can focus on schoolwork way more easily

[Lofty]

Not unless they know somewhere you can get the antibody test. How are they getting a test just because they fancy one?

Over 65 innit.

[Don]

My in laws are going for a test tomorrow because they reckon the test tells you if you have already had it, that's not right is it?

:D

You have to lol at how shit the comms from the government have been on this.

[Yevrah]

Bar refusal of treatment if until I do it, I can't think of any circumstances in which I'd actively want a test that only tells me if I currently have it.

[Boydy]

Bar refusal of treatment if until I do it, I can't think of any circumstances in which I'd actively want a test that only tells me if I currently have it.

If you had symptoms would you not want to know if it was coronavirus or just something else?

[Yevrah]

If you had symptoms would you not want to know if it was coronavirus or just something else?

Not really. What would I do with that information?

[Boydy]

Not really. What would I do with that information?

Hope you have immunity afterwards?

[Spikey M]

Panic.

[Lofty]

Wouldn't be surprised if half the OAPs who think this end up spiking a load of new cases congregating in queues for testing they didnt need.

[Yevrah]

Hope you have immunity afterwards?

Until it's clear as to whether I would it doesn't change anything.

[Andy]

Not really. What would I do with that information?

Once we are out of lockdown it's the difference between carrying on as normal or you and your household isolating for 14 days.

Right now it does seem strange to bother, unless it's data driven and being used behind the scenes by the scientists and advisors.

[Andy]

Wouldn't be surprised if half the OAPs who think this end up spiking a load of new cases congregating in queues for testing they didnt need.

From what I've read you stay in your car waiting and dont really see anyone.

https://twitter.com/mojitoBaB/status/1254459975960858637?s=19

[SvN]

I definitely want the anti-body test when it becomes available, assuming it's accurate. I reckon I had a mild case of it about a month ago.

[Yevrah]

Once we are out of lockdown it's the difference between carrying on as normal or you and your household isolating for 14 days.

Course. I was basing the point on where we are now.

[Yevrah]

The biggest study of Covid-19 patients in the UK shows a third admitted to hospital have died.

Just under half have been discharged, with the rest still being treated.

Prof Calum Semple, the chief investigator from the University of Liverpool, said the "crude hospital fatality rate is of the same magnitude as Ebola".

He said around 35-40% of hospitalised Ebola patients die.

"People need to hear this... this is an incredibly dangerous disease."

Cheering stuff.

[Lofty]

From what I've read you stay in your car waiting and dont really see anyone.

https://twitter.com/mojitoBaB/status/1254459975960858637?s=19

Also heard the opposite of large queues so people nipping out of the car to nearby shops.

[Spikey M]

Cheering stuff.

It's shit, but you also have to factor in that literally everyone that gets Ebola is hospitalised (or dies in their shack). The vast Majority of people that get this, can't even be sure they have it. Some get no symptoms, some think it might be a cold or the flu.

I would have CoronaVirus once a month for a year over getting Ebola once. It's ridiculous to compare them.

[Adramelch]

Most studies give estimates for the mortality rate to be around 0.5% or so. The virus itself is not super deadly (1 in 200 people is still fairly rough though), it's just that it spreads like wildfire. The comparisons with ebola are silly.

[ScousePig]

How are people saving money during lockdown? Shopping was £130 this week. It’s normally £70 cos I eat two nights a week at my parents, and they feed my daughter three full days. Skint, man.

Petrol is the main one for me. 100 miles a week for work, nearly 200 miles up to Sunderland and back every other week, plus half the away games. I haven't put any petrol in since lockdown. I was also spending £50 a month playing football.

Shopping wise nothing much has changed; the main difference being we're having to remember everything in our one big shop of the week, whereas before I'd be nipping in for bits a couple of times a week.

[ScousePig]

Never having to go out and do things is brilliant.

It's hardly a surprise to me, but being able to work from home (online learning with the kids, more or less picking my own hours) and only leaving the house for exercise and a bit of shopping more or less suits me to a tee. Going into school for a little bit of normality also keeps things ticking over nicely.

[ScousePig]

I have a 5km mooch circuit and did it in the rain last night, after a day's work it is absolutely brutal. It does take in such sights as a care home full of corpses, Hampton Court Palace, and a poncey cafe/bakery which has converted itself into selling 'sourdough and fresh eggs, one customer at a time'. Surrey will never change.

We have loads of routes, both running and walking. Headingley and Kirkstall Abbey are the 'sights'.

[Waffdon]

Wetherspoons planning on reopening June/July.

Offt

[Bam]

Wetherspoons planning on reopening June/July.

Offt

They can plan what the fuck they like, unless the Government give them the green light they have no chance. If they go against it they will have there licences revoked.

[Danny]

That would be for the greater good

[Jimmy Floyd]

I once went to the South Croydon 'spoons before 9am on a Sunday, and let me tell you it contained some interesting fellows indeed.

[Adramelch]

Russia's numbers seem to have slowly started to explode.

[Manc]

The mother (60) has been self isolating after a resident tested positive in the care home she works. Relieved to report she is in the clear despite wiping his arse.

[Spikey M]

Russia's numbers seem to have slowly started to explode.

They're always 1 step behind the Americans.

[Spoonsky]

Has the UK really surpassed Spain and France for deaths? That's some come-from-behind effort.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Brazil are coming fast as well.

[Shindig]

I was secretly hoping most of the care home patients were transferred into hospitals before death.

[Giggles]

Not really. What would I do with that information?

Crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside.

[Adramelch]

Has the UK really surpassed Spain and France for deaths? That's some come-from-behind effort.

Wouldn't be surprised if they surpassed Italy soon as well. I'd guess there's more care home death reports incoming (and they've been having more hospital deaths than them anyway).

[Yevrah]

As was discussed at the time, we left the lockdown too late.

Ultimately it may not have a huge impact on the final toll as other incompetence will probably come to the fore, but we've lost more lives by this stage than we needed to, no doubt about that.

[Yeldoow]

https://www.ft.com/content/0ed8ea34-ebc5-4425-b86a-7a29447de57b

Financial Times reckons we're up to about 47,000.

[Spikey M]

Financial Times reckons I'm about to pay to read that shit.

[Shindig]

As was discussed at the time, we left the lockdown too late.

Ultimately it may not have a huge impact on the final toll as other incompetence will probably come to the fore, but we've lost more lives by this stage than we needed to, no doubt about that.

On the plus side, I do think we'll hold on to the lockdown for longer. We have something the other countries don't: A leader who wound up in intensive care. Heck, #extendthelockdown is trending.

[Yeldoow]

Financial Times reckons I'm about to pay to read that shit.

I can't link to it without the paywall but if you Google it you can read it without paying for it.

[John Arne]

The numbers.

Sorted by total deaths.

https://gyazo.com/7ff3577f3128ef2ac17428658c62aa4c.jpeg

Sorted by Deaths per 1m pop

https://gyazo.com/e59709e7b9311772b2bc77b2c949a75c.jpeg

[Queenslander]

How good are us Asians.

[John Arne]

How good are us Asians.

https://giphy.com/gifs/editingandlayout-the-office-high-five-5wWf7GW1AzV6pF3MaVW.gif

How do you post GIFs? Can we even post GIFs?

Anyway... Imagine a gif of a high five

[John Arne]

Giggles has just called me, and asked me to tell you "you're not Asian".

[Queenslander]

https://giphy.com/gifs/editingandlayout-the-office-high-five-5wWf7GW1AzV6pF3MaVW.gif

How do you post GIFs? Can we even post GIFs?

Anyway... Imagine a gif of a high five

Im crap at gifs as well.

/

[Queenslander]

Giggles has just called me, and asked me to tell you "you're not Asian".

:D

[Queenslander]

And all without level 4 lockdown. Lol


Coronavirus recovery: ACT becomes first state or territory to be free of known cases of COVID-19
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-30/coronavirus-eliminated-in-act-no-known-covid-19-cases/12201088

[niko_cee]

Aye, the ACT is such a boring shithole even a pandemic virus doesn't want to stay there for any length of time.

[Queenslander]

That is true.

[Baz]

Does anyone think this virus was man-made?

[Giggles]

Does anyone think this virus was man-made?

Yes. It was developed on the nazi base on the moon.

[Baz]

Yes. It was developed on the nazi base on the moon.

It’s Eric Traub/Plum Island all over again.

[Spikey M]

Does anyone think this virus was man-made?

Novak Djokovic probably.

[Kikó]

Yes. It was developed on the nazi base on the moon.

:sherlock:

[randomlegend]

Does anyone think this virus was man-made?

I don't know/understand the details, but apparently you can tell by analyzing the genetic code that it's definitely not man made.

We're starting planning for getting back towards normal at work, which feels a bit weird.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Thinking this is man-made is 'Paul is dead' level conspiracy thinking, given the same thing has happened repeatedly throughout history including when genetic engineering was just a twinkle in the blacksmith's eye.

Hasn't stopped 3 of my 4 managers at work circulating viral videos claiming it's a Chinese plot though (the other one is Russian and thinks the Salisbury Two were framed by MI5).

[SvN]

You say that, but have you compared the facial structures before and after the switch?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Next you'll be telling me John Lennon is dead.

[Spikey M]

Imagine.

[Manc]

Nobody told me.

[Lewis]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-bame-health-workers-should-be-removed-from-danger-says-royal-college-of-surgeons-11980929

Unlucky Randrew.

[Foe]

Project human shield didn’t take off in the NHS then.

[Giggles]

What is BAME? They toss it around there like it should be second nature to just know.

[Baz]

What is BAME? They toss it around there like it should be second nature to just know.


Blackies, Arabs, Muzzies, etc.

[John]

Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic. It's one you probably should know, it's been in common use for years now.

[ScousePig]

At least cancer doesn't discriminate.

[Yevrah]

Watching the press briefing tonight, I still can't get over that after all we've done the R0 is still between 0.6 and 0.9. If the aim is to keep it below 1 as this conference suggests, surely the only way to do that is carry on as we are? Yet, somehow, Boris is talking about a plan to relax restrictions which he'll unveil next week.

Why does seemingly nothing we do in regards to this virus make sense?

[Spikey M]

At least cancer doesn't discriminate.

It discriminates against, smokers, drinkers and drug users.

It discriminates against cool people.

[Spoonsky]

I think BAME must be a UK thing. We've got BIPOC here.

Idk about in the UK but if you say "Asians" here everyone thinks of Chinese and Koreans and not Pakistanis.

[Spikey M]

Bipolar Children?

[bruhnaldo]

Is "non-white" just not an option? Yesterday I heard "MENA" for the first time as well.

[Spikey M]

Is "non-white" just not an option? Yesterday I heard "MENA" for the first time as well.

It is if you're a massive racist.

[Kikó]

Is "non-white" just not an option? Yesterday I heard "MENA" for the first time as well.

Wtf is wrong you ??

[Pepe]

The options in the census are really weird. I had to choose "other" and write in "Mexican". :harold:

[ScousePig]

Makes sense. Where do you live?

[Spikey M]

Mexico.

[bruhnaldo]

It is if you're a massive racist.


Wtf is wrong you ??

huh???????? Is it not just different ways of encompassing "POC" ? I really wasn't trying to be offensive I apologize if it came off that way, honestly.

[Giggles]

Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic. It's one you probably should know, it's been in common use for years now.

I’d say it’s a UK only thing. Probably not enough here for it ever to be used. They’re all just “the foreigners”.

[Pepe]

Makes sense. Where do you live?

U S of A.

[Pepe]

POCs.

[Spikey M]

huh???????? Is it not just different ways of encompassing "POC" ? I really wasn't trying to be offensive I apologize if it came off that way, honestly.

I call Women 'Non-Men' myself

[bruhnaldo]

I call Women 'Non-Men' myself

Is it sexist to label women "non-men" now? I can't keep up.

[Lewis]

It is a bit stupid reducing them all to 'BAME' status. The average Indian and Chinaman in this country earns more than a normal person, so treating them all as some disadvantaged non-white lump goes some way towards rendering the concept meaningless. Especially when their getting on reduces their influence within the lump, because all of the attention goes elsewhere (see also: West Africans vs the rest of their supposed 'B' ethnic group).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bruh's great-Grandad took part in the Rosewood Massacre, racism is in his blood.

And sexism too it seems.

[John Arne]

Reuters on the Vietnam response

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vietnam-fight-insi/after-aggressive-mass-testing-vietnam-says-it-contains-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN22B34H



Vietnam has been helped, experts said, by the combination of its authoritarian leadership and its open market economy, and a population with a memory of previous epidemics ready to cooperate.
“It is organised, it can make country-wide policy decisions that get enacted quickly and efficiently and without too much controversy,” said Guy Thwaites, director of the Oxford University Clinical Research Unit in Ho Chi Minh City. Thwaites’s laboratory has been helping to process tests.

Thwaites said the number of positive tests processed by his organisation’s lab was in line with government data. He said the hospital where he works on the wards – Ho Chi Minh City’s 550-bed Hospital for Tropical Diseases, serving a population of 45 million people in southern Vietnam – had not admitted any additional cases not reflected in the government’s numbers.
“If there was ongoing and unreported or unappreciated community transmission, we would have seen the patients in our hospital. We have not,” he said. Thwaites said his organisation’s lab increased capacity from being able to do around 100 tests a day to around 1,000 a day.

Managers of 13 funeral homes in Hanoi contacted by Reuters said they had seen no uptick in deaths. One said requests for funerals had gone down during the country’s lockdown, now lifted, because of the reduction in traffic accidents, one of the biggest killers in Vietnam.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The authoritarian leadership is a huge factor.

All of our political parties are liberal and public opinion is 98% liberal. You can tell just from Boris's rhetoric that even the most basic curbs on liberty for this cause him existential angst.

[Spoonsky]

The options in the census are really weird. I had to choose "other" and write in "Mexican". :harold:

Isn't it something like "White (latino)"? I never understood that.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States


The most recent United States Census officially recognized five racial categories (White American, Black or African American, American Indians and Alaska Native, Asian American, and Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander) as well as people of two or more races.[2][3][4] The Census Bureau also classified respondents as "Hispanic or Latino" or "Not Hispanic or Latino", identifying Hispanic and Latino as an ethnicity (not a race), which comprises the largest minority group in the nation.

It's a clusterfuck.

[Spoonsky]

I didn't realize there were more Latinos than blacks in the country.

Texas is going to turn blue in about a decade and, barring some serious vote suppression (which isn't unlikely), there will never be a Republican president again.

[Pepe]

Isn't it something like "White (latino)"? I never understood that.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States



It's a clusterfuck.

Yes, as a latino, I think that they want you to choose white, which fuck off, or native american, which is even more lol.

[bruhnaldo]

It is strange because they make Native American seem like "any descendant of any native tribe of the Americas" despite that seemingly never having been the case?

[Lewis]

I read once that 'Latinos' are much more susceptible to just getting melted into 'white' than you would think. The basic premise was that after a generation or so they all get jobs, stop speaking foreign, and have kids with white people. Therefore, the actual blue threat in Texas is all the stupid cunts who move there from banana republic pinko states like California and then promptly vote for the things that priced them out of it.

[Pepe]

I read once that 'Latinos' are much more susceptible to just getting melted into 'white' than you would think. The basic premise was that after a generation or so they all get jobs, stop speaking foreign, and have kids with white people. Therefore, the actual blue threat in Texas is all the stupid cunts who move there from banana republic pinko states like California and then promptly vote for the things that priced them out of it.

That's all true.

[Lewis]

It complicates the impending race war a bit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I didn't realize there were more Latinos than blacks in the country.

Texas is going to turn blue in about a decade and, barring some serious vote suppression (which isn't unlikely), there will never be a Republican president again.

Didn't the south always used to be blue? Everything goes in cycles.

In England we've just had a swathe of 100 year old Labour seats going Tory, because stuff changes.

[mugbull]

China's government news channel twitter account just put out this comedy


https://twitter.com/XHNews/status/1255734356728922113?s=20

[Boydy]

:lol:

[Pepe]

Beasted it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

[Baz]

It surprises me that everyone is jumping on the ‘lol idiot trump’ bandwagon, yet so many seem to think Boris is doing a good job. :cab:

Today he boasted about avoiding 500,000 deaths, despite his suggestion of “herd immunity” (while ignoring the advice of many, many professionals) being the only surefire way to achieve such numbers. Well done, Bojo, lad - well done on achieving that purely by ignoring your own plan.

And he can get to fuck with all his “god bless the NHS” bollocks too. Mr Private Healthcare, who six months ago was the NHS’ biggest threat, praising immigrant NHS workers for saving his life. :wanker:

[randomlegend]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-bame-health-workers-should-be-removed-from-danger-says-royal-college-of-surgeons-11980929

Unlucky Randrew.

The NHS would literally collapse if they did that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Why are non-white doctors hit harder? Is it just that they have bigger families so have more chance of infection at home?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-52486066

Two women ignored lockdown advice and travelled 50 miles to have a barbecue "in the rain" on Blackpool Promenade, said firefighters.

Why?

[Spikey M]

Stupid fucking Non-Men.

No-man. No-man works better.

[Adramelch]

At the current rate the US are looking at well above 100k deaths. Probably closer to the 200k mark.

[Shindig]

It surprises me that everyone is jumping on the ‘lol idiot trump’ bandwagon, yet so many seem to think Boris is doing a good job. :cab:

Today he boasted about avoiding 500,000 deaths, despite his suggestion of “herd immunity” (while ignoring the advice of many, many professionals) being the only surefire way to achieve such numbers. Well done, Bojo, lad - well done on achieving that purely by ignoring your own plan.

Yeah, the bed's been royally shat. The slowness of testing, not closing our borders, isolating symptomatic people but not testing them, not publishing the care home deaths, etc.

[Don]

Did I hear right that daily UK tests were 81K today? If they pull it off tomorrow I'm going on a Twitter rampage that'll make Waff look meek.

[Magic]

Lidl was back to normal today. :drool: