Coronavirus Death Thread

[Yevrah]

So after being harassed (two messages and two emails with the threat of phoning me if I did not comply) into filling in some shitty online tracing form which bothered me for things like "what is your NHS number", "when did you have your vaccine" - do you not already have these things from the passenger locator form, you arse holes? I was guilted into taking a PCR test, my second in a week. Result has just come through and I don't have COVID. Surprising.

My mate who was on the same flight back as me but at the other end of the plane (due to us both outright refusing to give Ryanair more money to choose a seat) was not contacted, so if it was the flight that triggered this and they do it on the basis of how close you are to the infected person (within x rows) I am livid - I sat on that plane with a mask on the entire time, with an empty seat next to me and spoke to no one. Shambles.

[Shindig]

You really don't take minor inconveniences well, do you?

[Giggles]

That's what I was thinking too, it's a PCR test not a fucking kidney donation :D

I suspect it's just more a defiance thing than anything though.

[niko_cee]

There was an interesting stats/Spiegelhalter thing the other day about why a 'confirmatory' PCR test is a bit of a waste of time and the idea that they are 'the gold standard' of testing is a bit misplaced. You probably shouldn't need one if you've already been tested related to travel and have a negative LFT.

[Giggles]

But he does need one, because he's been told to get one.

[niko_cee]

And that's fine, but is also probably a waste of resources in terms of his time, the person doing its time, the lab processing its time and the government paying for its money.

The point was we should probably move to a model where fully vaccinated people, displaying no symptoms should probably be required to take an LFT rather than a PCR if deemed a close contact etc, and the result of that test should be deemed sufficient (be it positive or negative).

[Don]

That's a good doggy. Obedient little bitch.

[Spikey M]

Eric Djemba-Djemba.

[Kikó]

Good call.

Lee Hendrie.

[Boydy]

You really don't take minor inconveniences well, do you?

:D

He's such a Karen.

[Yevrah]

Those of you focusing on the minor inconvenience to me of this are doing it wrong. That is a pain, but obviously only temporary, whereas the bigger issue is the colossal waste of money this all is, that if you need reminding (and it seems you do) we're all paying for.

The test centre I went to was the most overstaffed place I've ever seen in my life, which on the one hand I have to give kudos to for the organisation of but on the other that comes at a ridiculous cost. A cost that manifestly (as our test and trace efforts have done the square root of fuck all in this pandemic) is clearly not worth it.

Nobody should be summoned to a test centre with the threat of a 10 day isolation front and centre of the summons (which isn't even a thing anymore) on the back of sitting on a plane with a mask on, let alone if they've been double jabbed. But if you're all fine with that and enjoy doing things for the sake of them, at obscene cost, then it must be me with the problem.

[Manc]

Lee Sharp.

[Yevrah]

Oh and before yesterday I assumed the hospitality industry and others were struggling for staff due to 'free' rent and Furlough monies, I now suspect their target market is earning double what they would ever offer standing around in a car park drinking tea and moving the occasional cone.

[Giggles]

Lee Sharp.
Karen Sharp.

[Kikó]

They're not paying double to stand in a car park. These centres are staffed by people on minimum wage.

[Yevrah]

It's because it's now widely accepted that the vaccination is pointless IIRC.

The vaccination is a brilliant, brilliant thing. I wish as a society we would trust in it more. A wish I aim at both the Dons and Magics of this World as well as those who seem hell bent on keeping this testing and restrictions shit show going. Boosters aside this is done, so can we pur-lease move the fuck on.

[Spikey M]

You know who wasn't on minimum wage?

Steve Bruce.

[Kikó]

Good manager IMO.

[Lofty]

I think the vaccination itself is worth it but the problem is there seems to be little upside beyond the medical in terms of what happens afterwards, and the booster is a PR disaster because it plays into the anti-vax line of 'aha now they want you to have continuous vaccinations'.

[Yevrah]

They're not paying double to stand in a car park. These centres are staffed by people on minimum wage.

Fair point. Upon further investigation it's £10 an hour to move cones and £13.50 an hour to improve people's deep throat reflexes + whatever the agencies are creaming off the top - which I realise doesn't go to the poor sods standing in the cold, but does add to the overall cost of this massive waste of time and money.

[Yevrah]

You know who wasn't on minimum wage?

Steve Bruce.

I think I said it in the other thread, the man is a genius.

[Ian]

I'm sure the anti-vaxxers, like any good conspiracy cretin, would twist it either way. "Oh, we don't need boosters so we've just magically created a vaccine that's perfect and will work forever yeah? Yeah, pull the other one mate! #scamdemic"

"Alright, let's have boosters then."
"Aha!"

[Spikey M]

so can we pur-lease move the fuck on.

The only way that's ever going to happen is if everyone Alan Smiths the fuck up about it. Stop talking about it. Stop thinking about it. Don't have a test unless you absolutely have to and if you do, do the postal one so any inconvenience to you will be basically zero.

Alot of people are already doing this and as time moves on more will join. Forget about the rest of them. And definitely don't spend your time worrying about how this Government spends money. This is the tip of a massive, fuck off, crooked Iceberg but the masses don't care so it isn't going to change. Treat Covid the same way. Imagine it's Stephen King's IT. Ignore it and it goes away.

[Yevrah]

I'm sure the anti-vaxxers, like any good conspiracy cretin, would twist it either way. "Oh, we don't need boosters so we've just magically created a vaccine that's perfect and will work forever yeah? Yeah, pull the other one mate! #scamdemic"

"Alright, let's have boosters then."
"Aha!"

As dumb as the anti-vaxxers are the real ire should be directed at the fear mongering wankers who thankfully have been starved of oxygen of late, but used their actual scientific roles/qualifications or quasi ones to borderline deny the existence and effectiveness of the vaccine and all from a position of reasonable power and influence.

My plan to be in charge of everything is not going well, but if there's an uptick on that front Pep as my 'lord of all science' will stop this shit from ever happening again.

[Giggles]

The only way that's ever going to happen is if everyone Alan Smiths the fuck up about it. Stop talking about it. Stop thinking about it. Don't have a test unless you absolutely have to and if you do, do the postal one so any inconvenience to you will be basically zero.

Alot of people are already doing this and as time moves on more will join. Forget about the rest of them. And definitely don't spend your time worrying about how this Government spends money. This is the tip of a massive, fuck off, crooked Iceberg but the masses don't care so it isn't going to change. Treat Covid the same way. Imagine it's Stephen King's IT. Ignore it and it goes away.


Doing the ostrich won't make it disappear.

[Kikó]

It's how we got rid of the plague.

[Spikey M]

Doing the ostrich won't make it disappear.

It's not going to disappear either way. We have a vaccine, everyone that is going to get it has done so. Now we get on with life.

[Yevrah]

It's not going to disappear either way. We have a vaccine, everyone that is going to get it has done so. Now we get on with life.

Yep. Whatever deaths we get from this thing from here on in (and I appreciate they will decline further with better treatments) sadly need to be put down to 'shit happens'.

[Boydy]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/18/30/3d183053d6e68b46c120bafe8aa6a03a.gif

[Giggles]

Yep. Whatever deaths we get from this thing from here on in (and I appreciate they will decline further with better treatments) sadly need to be put down to 'shit happens'.

Sick RIP on the bottom of this and they could replace condolance cards. Happy days.

https://image.posterlounge.ie/img/products/690000/684096/684096_poster_l.jpg

[Giggles]

I even made up the inside for you.


https://i.imgur.com/Rj5w2ug.jpg

[Yevrah]

Loving your work. I can feel a position in the Yevstration coming on.

[Spikey M]

Is there a "Should have had the vaccine, you daft cunt" range available?

[niko_cee]

Get a promotional range of poppy facemasks made up with Ours Is Not To Reason Why marked up on them. 2 birds and all that.

[Shindig]

Aren’t we mostly at the shit happens stage? We’re still testing but life is about as 2019 as it’ll get.

[Giggles]

I got a letter today to self isolate until Wednesday and a phone call an hour later to self isolate until Sunday. Top work there HSE.

[Queenslander]

Heads have gone.

https://i.ibb.co/Np5ScjD/281bc726cb3f072777c94df732e45543.webp (https://ibb.co/k0j1N8b)

[Giggles]

I just got the text for the booster due to my "weak immune system".

[Don]

:happycry:

[Giggles]

It's news to me, especially as I don't have a GP.

[Don]

It ain't news to us, lad.

[Giggles]

Was it you who told the Health Services Executive to book me a booster then my little rag headed friend?

[Boydy]

It's news to me, especially as I don't have a GP.
You don't have a GP?

[Giggles]

You don't have a GP?

Moved house, cancelled the one where I used to live but haven't got around to signing up to a new one here.

[Manc]

Don't bother. Absoutley clueless.

[Spikey M]

Second. Phone 111 and a minimum wage bod can Google the solution for you instead. Probably quicker than my GP too.

[Giggles]

I’m assuming someone doesn’t need to go for a booster if they’ve had it anyway.

[niko_cee]

There's probably a minimum time between having it and receiving the booster (as was the case with the initial run).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Booster is at least 6 months after the second.

[Giggles]

6 months under normal cicumstances, but someone surely wouldn't go for one soon after testing positive I'd say. The 6 months probably shouldn't be taken as set in stone as you're saying it there.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, but I meant in terms of having covid. Isn't it like 28 days after or something.

[Spikey M]

Supposedly, but I had mine within 28 days of testing positive. They weren't fussed.

[Giggles]

You've to wait 6 months here. Strange there's such a big difference, though before the first pair and after the first pair probably change things.

[Bam]

Was it you who told the Health Services Executive to book me a booster then my little rag headed friend?



:henn0rz:

[Giggles]

I got a letter today to self isolate until Wednesday and a phone call an hour later to self isolate until Sunday. Top work there HSE.

I've decided to stop quaranting today, show work the letter that says Wednesday, and get some Christmas shopping done.

[Yevrah]

Talking of Christmas shopping...


The government has updated its Covid testing guidance, recommending that people in England take a rapid lateral flow test before going to high-risk places
This includes spending time in crowded areas such as busy shopping streets, or when visiting vulnerable people

I'd do the latter, but I don't know anyone vulnerable to this now (the NHS did enough on its own to help kill the last one in the family that was), but there is not a cat in hell's chance the former is happening.

[Manc]

You live for this sort of bollocks.

[Yevrah]

You what?

[Giggles]

Talking of Christmas shopping...



I'd do the latter, but I don't know anyone vulnerable to this now (the NHS did enough on its own to help kill the last one in the family that was), but there is not a cat in hell's chance the former is happening.

Taking a step back from outrage, would it be that hard to do?

[niko_cee]

Wouldn't be that hard for everyone to slip the NHS a few extra quid everyday, if that's the criteria for doing things now. Probably more worthwhile as well.

[Yevrah]

Indeed. This, "it's not that much of an inconvenience" is seriously odd to me. Prior to this I thought most in the West agreed that totalitarianism was bad, but (what should be) post it all, it appears loads of people are still gagging to be told what to do by the state.

[Don]

Oh how we lolled off vaccine passports on page 32. Page 750 has everyone out in the streets hunting toddlers who managed to escape the jab.

[Spikey M]

Owen Hargreaves.

[Boydy]

Totalitarianism :D

[niko_cee]

Aye, it's a bit strong, but the point is surely that this is about as good as it is going to get with covid. High vaccination rate, boosters rolling out, highly effective treatment available, so we have to ask is this how we want things in perpetuity?

[niko_cee]

It's not going to go away.

[Spikey M]

Not while everyone is so determined to drone-on about it constantly, no. I beg you lads. Just crack on and ignore it. :happycry:

[Kikó]

We're going back to encouraged WFH tomorrow and the 3G system here which means you need to be fully vaccinated, recovered or tested that day to be in the office.

[Don]

Would be an awful shame if we had to return to WFH for the remaining 30 or so years of my working life.

[Spikey M]

When I said "crack on and ignore it", I obviously only mean up to a point. WFH must remain to keep us all safe.

[Giggles]

FH you mean.

[Pepe]

Posting From Home.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think we can agree to an arrangement whereby you lot can work from home, but I get paid more than you to do the same job because of my commuting costs.

[Pepe]

What about my electricity/internet bill?

[Spikey M]

On the contrary, what with all the Electric and Internet you lot get for free.

Edit: Pepe :cool:

[Spikey M]

Don't get any fancy free milk powder either. :(

[Pepe]

:lol:

[Manc]

Back in the office and mask uptake appears to have skyrocketed. Heads. Have. Gone.

[Giggles]

Should never have dropped off really seeing as it’s a light bit of cloth. It’s not as if someone is being asked to wear a suit of armour. A good few filthy cunts should be wearing them regardless of covid.

[Don]

It's not that hard, is it? :pards:

[Kikó]

We had to show our covid status to get into the office today and mask wearing away from the desk is compulsory.

[Disco]

We have one mask left in the company, and she wears one to hide the false tooth she doesn't like wearing. Been that way for months.

[Lewis]

We had to show our covid status to get into the office today and mask wearing away from the desk is compulsory.

https://i.imgur.com/RPeIUyc.png

[Magic]

We had to show our covid status to get into the office today and mask wearing away from the desk is compulsory.

:harold:

[Yevrah]

It's all fine, life's basically back to how it was in 2019.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

NHS tracing has tagged me (I assume someone on the plane back from Poland tested positive). Filled out the form and it says I don't have to isolate but I should get a PCR test.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm making plans to enter 'Metropolitan France' (someone has to) and it seems that we are the only European country still on Manu's amber list.

lol at the French.

[Pepe]

I will be in France in December.

TTH meet incoming?

Lol at the fucking vaccine passports. Apparently the booster will be mandatory starting in January. France. :harold:

[Yevrah]

NHS tracing has tagged me (I assume someone on the plane back from Poland tested positive). Filled out the form and it says I don't have to isolate but I should get a PCR test.

Having complied with this nonsense once, I can safely say I wouldn't again in the same circumstances (which are having no reason to believe I'd been exposed enough to anyone to catch COVID).

[Spikey M]

The Mrs was bending my ear about taking the kids to Disneyland (World? Whatever.) next year the other day. Which I was considering, but they can fuck right off if there's a load of isolating bollocks involved.

[Yevrah]

I will be in France in December.

TTH meet incoming?

Lol at the fucking vaccine passports. Apparently the booster will be mandatory starting in January. France. :harold:

If you ever want to go on holiday again they're basically going to be mandatory in the UK too.

[Yevrah]

The Mrs was bending my ear about taking the kids to Disneyland (World? Whatever.) next year the other day. Which I was considering, but they can fuck right off if there's a load of isolating bollocks involved.

There isn't, as long as you've been double jabbed (+ probably boosted by whenever you go next year), the text threats just make it look like there is.

[Pepe]

If you ever want to go on holiday again they're basically going to be mandatory in the UK too.

They will probably be mandatory in my job soon too. Then again, the vaccine is supposed to be mandatory (either that or weekly testing), but I have yet to provide proof that I got it and I have yet to be fired.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Having complied with this nonsense once, I can safely say I wouldn't again in the same circumstances (which are having no reason to believe I'd been exposed enough to anyone to catch COVID).

I think this is it really, I've booked a PCR test to be delivered but the chance of me having it has to be really low.

[niko_cee]

Some top tier crowing in The Telegraph this week. They really can't help themselves. Covid comment of the week has to go to the German Health Minister though with his The whole population will soon be either “vaccinated, recovered, or dead” effort.

:D

[Giggles]

France > most countries.

[Spikey M]

They hate rules and love protests so I'm surprised you think that. Or is being Anti-Britain an over-riding shortcut to the top?

[Luke Emia]

Variant of concern klaxon…

[Shindig]

Extend the Greek alphabet.

[Manc]

Botswana you say.

[Spikey M]

I predicted A Covid-Ebola mutation over a year ago. :cool:

[Don]

I've lost a couple more geezers to the antivaxxer community. We're not talking about the highly educated and intelligent debate of the sort me and Magic present, no, unfortunately this is GB News, telegram channels called Tommy Robinson News and gems like this:

https://i.ibb.co/QKcbw8y/Screenshot-20211126-084428-Whats-App.jpg

I don't mind them pointing to the 3m adverse drug reactions logged for the vaccine and factual (if lacking context) shite but don't fucking create straight up fake data ffs. That blue line isn't even accurate but the yellow line doesn't go above something like 0.2 :D

On the plus side, it's really promoted the beautiful game amongst these cretins. Every player collapse is now flagged. Fabrice Muamba they've done you proud :happycry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Variant hokey cokey forever is an utter nonsense way of approaching human affairs.

[Kikó]

I've lost a couple more geezers to the antivaxxer community. We're not talking about the highly educated and intelligent debate of the sort me and Magic present, no, unfortunately this is GB News, telegram channels called Tommy Robinson News and gems like this:

https://i.ibb.co/QKcbw8y/Screenshot-20211126-084428-Whats-App.jpg

I don't mind them pointing to the 3m adverse drug reactions logged for the vaccine and factual (if lacking context) shite but don't fucking create straight up fake data ffs. That blue line isn't even accurate but the yellow line doesn't go above something like 0.2 :D

On the plus side, it's really promoted the beautiful game amongst these cretins. Every player collapse is now flagged. Fabrice Muamba they've done you proud :happycry:

It's real data but the devil is in the detail.

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[Yevrah]

You have to wonder what the hell the ONS are doing using an age range of 10-59 for, well, anything.

[Magic]

I'm not getting the vaccine again lol.

[randomlegend]

Nobody cares.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I see the border idiots are back. One group of people want open borders for migrants and closed borders for covid. Another group of people want closed borders for migrants and open borders for covid.

Both groups should be locked down and prevented from communicating with the outside world.

[Yevrah]

The response to this new variant from people who really should know better has been utterly ridiculous. No proof these mutations are bad, no proof the vaccine doesn't work against it, no proof it's any more deadly. Yet somehow, the sky is falling.

[-james-]

You have to wonder what the hell the ONS are doing using an age range of 10-59 for, well, anything.

ONS data has more strata than that and is freely available for anyone who wants to download it and perform dishonest statistics. They've just collated age groups and removed people who die due to age related effects.

[Lewis]

Closed borders for everyone without a blue passport. Problem - problems - solved.

[Don]

Maybe my cursory glance at the excel was wrong but it looked like it was plain wrong rather than misleading.

Either way, London meet tomorrow boys. Magic and I are laying on a fine spread:

https://i.ibb.co/bmnnzMq/IMG-20211126-WA0027.jpg

[Spikey M]

That's a prime slice of gammon to the bottom left.

[niko_cee]

Variant Omicron [Persei 8] has landed.

[Raoul Duke]

We're pretty much shutting down everything again :moop: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/11/the-netherlands-will-shut-down-from-5pm-to-5am-apart-from-essential-services/

[Yevrah]

Haven't the Dutch fully vaccinated over 70% of the population? We are truly running mad with this thing now.

[Shindig]

Yep. I don't get it.

[Don]

Yev, any dietary requirements for tomorrow?

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's got to the point now where entire political classes in most countries are locked into 'Well, we have to do something' mentality. It's almost like a shit approach to game theory. Take banning flights from southern Africa. The variant is going to get here. Everyone knows it's going to get here. Banning flights from southern Africa is not going to have any impact on whether it gets here or not. There is no greater risk in allowing flights than there is in banning them. Yet here we are - because the fear of being blamed for not acting is worse than the fear of being blamed for acting unnecessarily. This is rational in terms of politicians saving their skin, but absolutely nonsensical in terms of policy.

It's almost like the manager-itis that was mentioned in the jobs thread.

[Shindig]

I'm not sure about that. The last South African variant didn't make a dent over here.

[Spikey M]

I enjoyed this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59434196

You have no chance Chrissy babes.

[Don]

Surely banning flights and possibly delaying its arrival is pretty significant less than a month before all you gammons get together to rub dry Turkey meat into eachother's anuses, no?

[Shindig]

Food doesn't go in there, silly.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Surely banning flights and possibly delaying its arrival is pretty significant less than a month before all you gammons get together to rub dry Turkey meat into eachother's anuses, no?

What are they going to do with that time? It will make no difference.

[Don]

Giggles will have his 8th jab by then and RL and buddies actually get called into work after December.

[Queenslander]

Another cracking protest in Melolbourne today

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/vaccine-mandate-protests-planned-across-australia-featuring-pauline-hanson/news-story/f7ee8a4851b41fbccbaa89134c1afb86

[Spikey M]

What are they going to do with that time? It will make no difference.

Get as far through winter as possible is probably the thinking.

[Lewis]

Skipping 'Xi' in the alphabet naming strategy is pretty lol. Also, read elsewhere - won't southern Africa be throwing up variants for the rest of time, seeing as half of them have HIV and will struggle to reach any sort of lasting herd immunity?

[Disco]

You know this is almost done when the new variants sound like teams from the Apprentice.

[Yevrah]

Skipping 'Xi' in the alphabet naming strategy is pretty lol.

They haven't, have they? :D

What a shower of puppet shit the WHO truly are.

[7om]

Agree with Jimmy. Banning flights from a handful of countries is completely pointless. I'd bet good money that the variant is already here but we have to be seen to bedoing something - no matter if its actually effective or not.

[Yevrah]

I'd be the first to call bullshit, but I can sort of see the logic here. Christmas is four weeks away and banning people coming in directly with it will slow the spread, while obviously not stopping it.

On being seen to be doing something, I think businesses are guilty of that, but governments have gone way past it - if ours was bothered about seen to be doing something they'd have listened to the loud calls to bring more restrictions from the vaccine denying mentalists back when cases started going up months ago.

[Spikey M]

I highly doubt Christmas is a consideration beyond the increase in travel that comes along with it. They probably have one eye on a potential lockdown to come, depending on how serious a problem the Kang and Kodos VARIANT turns out to be.

The thinking will be that having to lockdown now will probably see us back in lockdown by March. Where as, if we can string this out until January or February, we will probably get away with just the one lockdown as we know Covid looks after it's self in the warmer months.

That said, is there even any evidence that this is a VACCINE AVOIDING VARIANT yet? I've seen speculation, but nothing definite.

[Yevrah]

That said, is there even any evidence that this is a VACCINE AVOIDING VARIANT yet? I've seen speculation, but nothing definite.

I'm yet to see any tangible reports that it's more deadly or spreads faster or beats the vaccine, or anything really. It has more mutations, but that's what viruses do, no?

[Shindig]

Well, the Dutch have collared 60 positives from 600 passengers so far. Our numbers seem to wobble pretty regularly, like a pulse. We should be alright, especially given we've boosted 15 million of the people most likely to die from it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

There won't be any more lockdowns unless the bodies are about to start piling up - which is currently a long, long way from happening.

The European lockdowns are unbelievably over-cautious.

[Spikey M]

I'm yet to see any tangible reports that it's more deadly or spreads faster or beats the vaccine, or anything really. It has more mutations, but that's what viruses do, no?

Yep. I'm seeing lots of drama and the stock market has shat its pants but I'm a bit confused as to why this variant has people freaking out more than the others have.

[Spikey M]

There won't be any more lockdowns unless the bodies are about to start piling up - which is currently a long, long way from happening.

I can only imagine that's the concern with this variant, but I'm not seeing anything that indicates that this should be the case. The more I look, the more it seems like panic for panics sake, with statements like "it's bad, but not a disaster... YET!". Nothing on what they actually think is going to happen though. Meh.

[Pepe]

Viruses want to spread, so as time goes they tend to become both more contagious and less deadly.

[John Arne]

Can't help but think that the focus needs to switch from 'let's give boosters to those already vaccinated', to 'let's try to at least vaccinate everybody in the world first'.

[Kikó]

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[Pepe]

Ignore the media. Listen to Twitter.

[Shindig]

Can't help but think that the focus needs to switch from 'let's give boosters to those already vaccinated', to 'let's try to at least vaccinate everybody in the world first'.

One of these is considerably more difficult. It's a hearts and minds thing on top of a logistical nightmare.

[Boydy]

Two cases found in the UK now.

[Yevrah]

Surely anyone who has been paying even the slightest bit of attention would know this isn't going to take us back to square one. And to add, even the BBC aren't saying that.

[Spikey M]

Surely anyone who has been paying even the slightest bit of attention would know this isn't going to take us back to square one. And to add, even the BBC aren't saying that.

It depends who you're paying attention to though. There's people out there whose only source of news is the Express ffs. So for them this is very much back to square one, and it's all Camilla's fault.

[Lewis]

In slightly more upbeat news, my November electricity bill is almost double the previous month.

[randomlegend]

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Senior vaccine scientist and furry. Interesting combo.

[Spikey M]

In slightly more upbeat news, my November electricity bill is almost double the previous month.

Someone I know has had their Direct Debit put up to nearly £300 a month. I have no idea how it's possible unless he has some serious arrears, but I did lol.

[Lewis]

Last week I found out my friend has been paying the estimated bills they send you for years. I was distraught.

[Yevrah]

Someone I know has had their Direct Debit put up to nearly £300 a month. I have no idea how it's possible unless he has some serious arrears, but I did lol.

Jesus. Even with a hot tub mine's not anywhere near that.

[Shindig]

I'm £100 up on mine. That's probably going to take a sharp turn.

[Yevrah]

Self isolation back when travelling into England until a negative PCR test is obtained.

RIP my IAG shares.

[Spikey M]

Masks back in shops lol

[phonics]

Self isolation back when travelling into England until a negative PCR test is obtained.

RIP my IAG shares.

That already exists? I've flown back and forth multiple times this month and had to do a test on Day 2 each time.

[Yevrah]

It's alright, life's more or less the same as it was in 2019 and these are just minor inconveniences.

[Spikey M]

That already exists? I've flown back and forth multiple times this month and had to do a test on Day 2 each time.

You have to isolate until you get the result now.

[phonics]

Masks back in shops lol

I'm in Malvern which is full of olds so I've been doing this anyway.

My life impacted not one jot :cool:

[Yevrah]

That already exists? I've flown back and forth multiple times this month and had to do a test on Day 2 each time.

It doesn't. You need to do a day 2 lateral flow test now and with no isolation.

[phonics]

You have to isolate until you get the result now.

Turns out I'd misread the instructions and had been doing that anyway.

[Spikey M]

Turns out I'd misread the instructions and had been doing that anyway.

:D

[Yevrah]

What is the actual science on the additional protection granted by the booster? I'm smelling SCIENCE at this briefing.

[Spikey M]

This will have done wonders for the Team WFH members that have been dragged back into the office. I'm buzzing for you lads. :cool:

[-james-]

What is the actual science on the additional protection granted by the booster? I'm smelling SCIENCE at this briefing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381571068579676171/913079998770970684/FE8-V87XMAE6r3j.png

[Yevrah]

I don't mean to sound like a dick (and I should have been clearer), but I'm not interested in case numbers. Nobody should be at this point.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've never seen a bigger overreaction to anything in my life. These are weak, scared people.

Just get the fucking boosters done and on we go ffs. Travel restrictions/rules are a complete 100% destructive waste of time.

[Yevrah]

I've never seen a bigger overreaction to anything in my life. These are weak, scared people.

Just get the fucking boosters done and on we go ffs. Travel restrictions/rules are a complete 100% destructive waste of time.

Not helped by the questions from all the journalists seemingly coming from people who're more scared/want to scare people. Utter clusterfuck.

[-james-]

I don't mean to sound like a dick (and I should have been clearer), but I'm not interested in case numbers. Nobody should be at this point.

There's a similar one for hospital admissions, and presumably there will be one for deaths as well.

If you've had two jabs, why would you be against the booster?

[Yevrah]

There's a similar one for hospital admissions, and presumably there will be one for deaths as well.

If you've had two jabs, why would you be against the booster?

I'd rather we moved on from all this shit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not helped by the questions from all the journalists seemingly coming from people who're more scared/want to scare people. Utter clusterfuck.

The worst thing is that a lot of people will be scared, because why wouldn't they? The media industry is completely broken.

[-james-]

I'd rather we moved on from all this shit.

It would indeed be nice if the virus was not still knocking about.

[Yevrah]

It would indeed be nice if the virus was not still knocking about.

The virus will be knocking about for all our lifetimes.

[-james-]

The virus will be knocking about for all our lifetimes.

Will that not impede your plan to simply move on?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Oh no, a virus!

Time we all grew up I think.

[Yevrah]

Will that not impede your plan to simply move on?

We should be treating this like winter flu now. That is the moving on I'd love to see.

[-james-]

We should be treating this like winter flu now. That is the moving on I'd love to see.

I imagine that's what will happen, but I can't see the harm in erring on the side of caution and jabbing as many people as possible this winter.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can't see the harm in erring on the side of caution

The problem is when this logical line gets followed through. Nobody has any sense of perspective.

[Yevrah]

I imagine that's what will happen, but I can't see the harm in erring on the side of caution and jabbing as many people as possible this winter.

Caution against what by jabbing as many people as possible? Jab all the vulnerable people + anyone who actually wants one (to appease the bed wetters) and we'd be fine.

[Yevrah]

Another rent a gob fear mongering SCIENTIST on the news talking absolute shite. We're in for a tidal wave of these chancers coming out of the woodwork again, aren't we?

[Magic]

Everyone that got a booster. :harold:

[Kikó]

German heads are gone watch: we have to do a lateral flow test to get into a restaurant which we have to do outside before we go in.

[Yevrah]

German heads are gone watch: we have to do a lateral flow test to get into a restaurant which we have to do outside before we go in.

Not as bad, but when I was in Italy last weekend I had to have someone follow me around and serve me my food at every buffet offering.

[Kikó]

Brilliant, I thought my plastic glove mask combo in Greece was over the top but that takes the biscuit.

Looking forward to gagging outside.

[Lewis]

I give it three days before shops have got one way systems back in. Luckily I declared the pandemic OVER at work weeks ago and took it upon myself to pull all the floor markers up.

[Spikey M]

I imagine that's what will happen, but I can't see the harm in erring on the side of caution and jabbing as many people as possible this winter.

Can you use your excel skills to plot some kind of chart showing the level of caution involved in making 60 million people wear masks and everyone catching a plane isolate because 2 sick people have been found?

[-james-]

Can you use your excel skills to plot some kind of chart showing the level of caution involved in making 60 million people wear masks and everyone catching a plane isolate because 2 sick people have been found?

Scotland never stopped wearing masks, and when I've been in England it's felt like the majority have worn them on public transport and in shops. I don't know why they changed the rules in the first place.

On the travel rules, I have no idea tbh. It's easy enough to dodge it all if you care enough.

[Pepe]

The virus will be knocking about for all our lifetimes.

True. It will become endemic.


We should be treating this like winter flu now. That is the moving on I'd love to see.

I would like to see that too. With that said, we have not reached the level of people vaccinated + people previously infected that will allow for that*. As someone said upthread, we should be more concerned about vaccinating more people than giving boosters, but here we are.

I attended a talk by the QE Nicholas Christakis not too long ago, where he predicted that we have one more year of this shit. I am willing to believe him, unfortunately.

*By allow, I mean for governments and health organizations to stop shitting themselves.

[Pepe]

And once we're done with this, inflation, etc. will come in. Should be a fun next several years.

[Shindig]

Yeah, this will take a while to shift into a bland illness.

[Magic]

Scotland never stopped wearing masks, and when I've been in England it's felt like the majority have worn them on public transport and in shops. I don't know why they changed the rules in the first place.

On the travel rules, I have no idea tbh. It's easy enough to dodge it all if you care enough.

And vaccine passports and yet it hasn't made a blind bit of difference.

[Spikey M]

Scotland never stopped wearing masks, and when I've been in England it's felt like the majority have worn them on public transport and in shops. I don't know why they changed the rules in the first place.

On the travel rules, I have no idea tbh. It's easy enough to dodge it all if you care enough.

I'm not particularly arsed either way, it just made me lol to hear it described as "caution". It's like bleaching the cutlery and calling it washing up.

[-james-]

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HTH x

[Manc]

Nice to see Giggles branching out.

[Kikó]

2G+ regulations mean you get the negative of on the spot lateral flow tests but positive of not wearing a mask again in the restaurant. It's relatively ok as a compromise.

[Giggles]

Nice to see Giggles branching out.

Nice to see someone speaking sense. Enough cunts going around with half a breakers yard in their face and they couldn’t possibly wear a mask.

[Alex]

I'm going abroad for a few days on Friday and paid for a fucking lateral flow test to take when I returned which came today (mainly just so I could get the reference number sorted out for the "passenger locator form" or whatever it's called, one less this to do and all that) which is now effectively useless to me. I mean it was only £25 or something, but I'm sure they won't be offsetting that against the cost of the PCR test I am now meant to do after he dropped this rule change out of the blue.

Realistically, what will happen if I just ignore any request to do the PCR test when I return to the country? I'm guessing nothing. I'm leaning increasingly towards that course of action to be honest. Fuck all this now.

[phonics]

I didn't bother doing mine once and they didn't send anyone round. They're not paying test and trace people anymore so there's no-one to narc on you.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm going abroad for a few days on Friday and paid for a fucking lateral flow test to take when I returned which came today (mainly just so I could get the reference number sorted out for the "passenger locator form" or whatever it's called, one less this to do and all that) which is now effectively useless to me. I mean it was only £25 or something, but I'm sure they won't be offsetting that against the cost of the PCR test I am now meant to do after he dropped this rule change out of the blue.

Realistically, what will happen if I just ignore any request to do the PCR test when I return to the country? I'm guessing nothing. I'm leaning increasingly towards that course of action to be honest. Fuck all this now.

Likewise (for work). It's a load of absolute panic station bobbins.

You don't have to do the test but you do need to get the code.

[Lewis]

1464668167586918406

HTH x

Everything wrong with Britain in that tweet there.

[Luca]

Skipping 'Xi' in the alphabet naming strategy is pretty lol. Also, read elsewhere - won't southern Africa be throwing up variants for the rest of time, seeing as half of them have HIV and will struggle to reach any sort of lasting herd immunity?

All the variants are Xi variants when you think about it…

[Lewis]

When you CHINK about it. :youpi:

[Yevrah]

:nono:

[Yevrah]

Everything wrong with Britain in that tweet there.

There seems to be a worrying number of people these days, including some on here, who seem to have no problem with doing things for the sake of them.

[-james-]

There seems to be a worrying number of people these days, including some on here, who seem to have no problem with doing things for the sake of them.

How do you mean?

[Yevrah]

How do you mean?

Face masks, pointless testing and isolating. Far more people than should be the case seem to be all for it. "It's only a minor inconvenience".

And I have no problem with inconvenience when it's worthwhile, hell I spent a year indoors and that was fine, but to still be doing this shit now when we've just seen the most successful vaccination programme in all of human history and we've booster jabbed however many millions more is a bit batshit to me.

[Baz]

I’m confused. Lateral flow tests are free from pharmacies. Why are you paying for them?

[Shindig]

PCR's are needed for travel. They aren't free. Then again, travel's mostly a luxury.

EDIT: Actually, scratch that. Day 2 testing means you can just turn up at a testing centre and get it done for nowt.

[Jimmy Floyd]

For day 2 lateral flows for travel (RIP those) you have to buy one with a code, the free ones aren't allowed. Same for PCRs.

[Shindig]

Ah, that's a shitter. You need a 16 digit code to pick up lateral flows from pharmacies now. Not that it stopped me picking up some yesterday.

[Lewis]

There seems to be a worrying number of people these days, including some on here, who seem to have no problem with doing things for the sake of them.

That and the twee-ness of it all. Throw in doing it all for ungrateful pensioners and the shit health service and we've got enough for the national headstone.

[Yevrah]

Fuck.Ing.Hell.


Dr Angelique Coetzee, the South African doctor who first spotted the new Covid variant Omicron, says the patients seen so far have had "extremely mild symptoms" - but more time is needed before we know the seriousness of the disease for vulnerable people.

[Yevrah]

https://i.postimg.cc/NGyGssZ0/breaking.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Good of the BBC to give that the prominence you'd expect to see after a terrorist attack that killed many peoples.

[Spikey M]

We're in a right Omicron Persei St8.

[Don]

The symptoms of all them have been mild, don't start fucking trying to play it cool now, you soft shites.

[Spikey M]

Can you scent your own farts yet?

[Don]

Not really.

[Alex]

https://i.postimg.cc/NGyGssZ0/breaking.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Good of the BBC to give that the prominence you'd expect to see after a terrorist attack that killed many peoples.

What a fucking ridiculous state of affairs this really is.

[Shindig]

They've since left the country which is fun.

[John Arne]

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[Lewis]

Stop shoving bats up your arse and we'll consider shipping some vaccines.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This tweet has properly triggered me:

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Her kids must be wrecks.

[Yevrah]

That's a Prof of Public Engagement in Science no less Jim.

These people are dangerous and I fucking knew they'd all be out of their hideouts, disgracing actual science left, right and centre.

[phonics]

Note: Yevrah is mad about SCIENCE because he knew better and also mad about absolute randoms with large audiences using SCIENCE to fear factor people into being scaredy cats.

[Yevrah]

Jim posted the link, but you keep being obsessed with me.

[phonics]

Lol.if you’d like to know the difference. Jim clearly finds these people Laughable. You find them dangerous and a sign of things to come.

[Yevrah]

Obsessed.

[phonics]

Only because I think you’re better than this my man. That’s literally the only reason. If dquincy said the same things I wouldn’t reach the same way dude.

[Kikó]

At least the resistance are here.

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[Spikey M]

Fuck sake :D

[Luke Emia]

Supposed to be skiing the last week of January. TUI may as well cancel it now and give me my money back.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm supposed to be going to a selection of European countries next week for work, I've ordered an eight-pack of tenterhooks to get me through this week.

[Spikey M]

6 Omicron scums in Scotland. Rebuild the wall ffs.

[Kikó]

I'm supposed to be going to a selection of European countries next week for work, I've ordered an eight-pack of tenterhooks to get me through this week.

This sounds fun. You should do a thread.

[Bam]

Only because I think you’re better than this my man. That’s literally the only reason. If dquincy said the same things I wouldn’t reach the same way dude.

You really are a pathetic cunt, dude.

[Spikey M]

:D

[7om]

Yevrah any updates on the SCIENCE t-shirts?

[Spikey M]

He's still on the naughty step thinking about what he's done.

[Magic]

Unscheduled ANNOUNCEMENT from the turdgeon. She's loving it.

[Yevrah]

He's still on the naughty step thinking about what he's done.

:D You know I'm right though. This is all absolutely mental and there are people who really should know better, lots of them, doing their best to keep the shambles going.

It's a shame any organised opposition to it seems to start and end with complete loons like those in Kiko's link.

[Spikey M]

The whole country has decended into wing nut lunacy on both sides. I suppose it's no surprise Covid has gone the same way.

Lewis was right when he tabled banning all American news coverage.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can't remember if I've made this hot take already on here or only 'IRL', but my week in Spain recently really hit home how exposed we are to the absolute tidal wave of cultural bullshit that floods over from America. Non-English speaking countries are so much better insulated and free to continue doing their own thing.

Take this 'Rittenhouse' thing recently. Why do we care? Why was it in our news? Nothing to do with us.

Netflix doesn't help either.

[randomlegend]

I've ordered an eight-pack of tenterhooks to get me through this week.

Oooh that is a beautiful line.

[Pepe]

Prof of Public Engagement in Science :lol:

Talk about stealing a living.

[Spikey M]

Isn't that what Dawkins used to do? Albeit for a University rather than the government. If so, I guess obsessing over unimportant shit in an irritating tone must be in the job spec.

[Pepe]

Yes. A position that was created just for him. He was also stealing a living in that position.

Also, that woman is also doing it for a university, hence the "professor".

[Yevrah]

Prof of Public Engagement in Science :lol:

Talk about stealing a living.

It's brilliant, isn't it? Gets to talk with perceived authority about things while being an absolute chancer.

[randomlegend]

It's brilliant, isn't it? Gets to talk with perceived authority about things while being an absolute chancer.

Sounds like us lot.

[Pepe]

What is our perceived authority?

[Pepe]

I am ok with her talking about whatever the fuck she wants, even if it is complete nonsense. That kind of position, however, is complete BS. Then again, academia has tons and tons of people who are just there so that their name is associated to the university and contribute fuck all.

[Kikó]

Research on that yourself looser.