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Kikó
30-03-2020, 04:50 PM
First time I saw it used was at my last place but apparently it's pretty common in Banking. Usually used when they put contractors into a forced absence (end of year cost saving).

Sir Andy Mahowry
30-03-2020, 05:03 PM
It's common in prison.

Usually to let prisoners leave to attend a funeral.

bruhnaldo
30-03-2020, 05:07 PM
/ˈfərlō/

Foe
30-03-2020, 05:35 PM
Oil price is looking a bit ropey :uhoh:

SvN
30-03-2020, 06:47 PM
Apparently it's an American term.

bruhnaldo
30-03-2020, 06:51 PM
So stop using it!

Magic
31-03-2020, 09:59 AM
I've got a call today with my prospective employer to discuss my onboarding and other things like furlough, holidays, car, laptop, etc, before submission of my notice tomorrow. :drool:

Trust me to be put on furlough as the same day as being put on gardening leave, FFS.

Magic
31-03-2020, 01:40 PM
Glorious phone call earlier. Notice being handed in tomorrow. :drool:

Lewis
31-03-2020, 03:54 PM
I nominated myself for an in-year reward before Christmas, and my line manager tried pushing it today, but apparently our overall manager blocked it because of how I 'conduct myself'. There is nothing work-related to complain about, because I do my work and then all of the shit that other departments send me; but apparently things like glazing over in meetings and then lolling out loud at 'e-mail-free Fridays' counts as not buying into the departmental way of doing things. This is Mark and Faggotgate all over again.

This appears to have been approved, despite telling them I'd rather not have it if it meant suiting up and shaking Mr McMahon's hand, so I've obviously double-swerved the lot of them. #governmentexpert

Shindig
31-03-2020, 03:55 PM
Your speech is already written, right?

Lewis
31-03-2020, 04:02 PM
This is hardly the time for the government to be shedding its top experts.

Foe
31-03-2020, 04:54 PM
This appears to have been approved, despite telling them I'd rather not have it if it meant suiting up and shaking Mr McMahon's hand, so I've obviously double-swerved the lot of them. #governmentexpert

What sort of reward are we talking here? Significant enough that you’re surprised it was approved?

Energy companies culling contractors all over the shop. Being staff :cool:

Shindig
31-03-2020, 05:00 PM
Social distancing at work now seems to extend to the rather sensible notion you should move desks. For us that means dragging all our desktop units with us. :moop: We used to be able to work everywhere in the office. Now we're tied to machinery.

Lewis
31-03-2020, 05:02 PM
It was only a few hundred quid (after tax/student loan increase), which was why I felt able to act the big man over it. I would probably have wound it in if it was worthwhile.

Foe
31-03-2020, 05:09 PM
It was only a few hundred quid (after tax/student loan increase), which was why I felt able to act the big man over it. I would probably have wound it in if it was worthwhile.

Yeah that’s not bad man, congrats. Buy a house in hull with that.

Lewis
31-03-2020, 05:10 PM
Post-LOCKDOWN TTH Meet fund.

Magic
01-04-2020, 02:38 PM
Handed in my notice over video call. Embarrassing tbh, MD told me he didn't understand why I was moving, my new company is shit, would never expect any of his guys to end up there etc. Guess that makes me even more confident I've made the right move.

:)

Shindig
01-04-2020, 03:33 PM
You know shit's serious when the NHS are offering secondments to our staff.

Baz
01-04-2020, 03:39 PM
Been told today that I won’t be getting redeployed. I’ve plenty of work to do until the second week of April and then I’m full embracing the piss-take territory a lot of my colleagues have been flouncing in for these past few weeks.

Foe
01-04-2020, 08:12 PM
How was working in the office Jim?

Or did you manage to convince you knob of an MD otherwise?

Jimmy Floyd
01-04-2020, 08:20 PM
No, I'm still there, now every day again. So many people have been furloughed that it feels a bit safer now, it's four people in a 20 man office setup. Would still rather be at home but if this is what it takes to have an income then so be it.

'Born survivor', as one of my mates rather presumptuously put it.

Shindig
02-04-2020, 09:33 AM
With the India lockdown a chunk of our skeleton crew are being drafted in to sub for the offshore guys on another contract. I'm sure that's just what you need when claims are at a high. :moop:

mo
02-04-2020, 10:20 AM
One of our headteachers (yeah we have two, don't ask) has announced he's off for pastures new today. I guess there is no ideal time to announce this but in a time of massive uncertainty in schools, not knowing what our leadership model looks like is another straw removed from the game of life that is Kerplunk.

Magic
02-04-2020, 11:25 AM
My work is now saying my 'OFFICIAL CONTRACT' I signed when I joined 6 years ago says I only need to give 1 weeks' notice, not 1 month like the HR online dashboard (which was an admin error). It was changed to 1 month in 2015 and they didn't issue me a re-vised contract.

Now they say my end date is 8th of April, and after that I can't use the car and I won't be paid (even though my wage is being paid by HMRC). I asked if they couldn't just say I handed in my notice on the 23rd so I still get furlough and they refused.

WOW.

Ian
02-04-2020, 11:32 AM
Surely a week is the minimum notice period, not the maximum? When I left my last job I handed it in earlier than I needed to just so it was absolutely clear that I was definitely fucking off and when it was happening.

Magic
02-04-2020, 11:33 AM
It just says 'If you wish to terminate your employment you must give 1 weeks' notice in writing'.

Also my restrictive covenant says:



You shall not, after termination of your employment, use the name of the company or any group company in any advertising or promotional material
You shall not, for a period of 3 months after the date of termination of your employment, howsoever occasioned, including breach by the company, either directly or indirectly, in relation to any like or similar business to that carried out by the company:

Within a 10 mile radius of your normal place of work be employed or engaged in the service of any employer or person or persons concerned with any like or similar business to that carried out by the company, or
You will not set up, whether alone or in partnership or as a director of a limited company any like or similar business within a radius of 10 mile of any company locations at which you have been employed within the last 12 months without the written consent of the company, or
Canvass or solicit, deal with or entice away from the company any customer or supplier of the company or any group company with whom you have had contact or dealings within the 12 month period prior to the termination of your employment, or
Approach any employee of the company or any group company with whom you have had contact or dealings within the 12 months period prior to termination of your employment, with a view to enticing them away or employing them



Does the bit that says 3 months not invalidate the bits that say 12 months? :cab:

Giggles
02-04-2020, 11:44 AM
In fairness, you’re leaving. I wouldn’t expect anything from any company you’re leaving.

Magic
02-04-2020, 11:45 AM
In fairness, you’re leaving. I wouldn’t expect anything from any company you’re leaving.

I'm not, the government is paying my wage. This is pure 100% sour grapes.

Boydy
02-04-2020, 11:52 AM
So they're fucking you over and you'll have no pay for three weeks of April?

Giggles
02-04-2020, 11:52 AM
To use the car and all or to even keep you on the books longer than they want to. Why would they bother doing anything when you’re off?

Raoul Duke
02-04-2020, 12:01 PM
They're obviously going to bin you off ASAP.

This is why you should never be loyal to an employer - they will happily piss on your shoes and tell you it's raining when it suits them

Magic
02-04-2020, 12:10 PM
So they're fucking you over and you'll have no pay for three weeks of April?

Yes, even though they aren't even paying my wages for that period.

Spikey M
02-04-2020, 12:49 PM
Shindig can you sort out some sweet Universal Credit for my man?

Shindig
02-04-2020, 12:52 PM
Nope. I don't work UC.

Spikey M
02-04-2020, 12:56 PM
What can you hook him up with?

Shindig
02-04-2020, 01:00 PM
Baz's affiliate links.

SvN
02-04-2020, 01:01 PM
I don't know what you expected Magic. Obviously the discrepancy between a month and a week is annoying, but your employers have always sounded like cunts. Based on your MD's reaction, they're quite obviously not going to help you out, even if it's no skin off their nose.

Jimmy Floyd
02-04-2020, 01:02 PM
If they changed the contract in 2015 why is that not valid?

Spikey M
02-04-2020, 01:03 PM
The only real option here is to fuck shit up as much as possible before you leave. Put some key customers noses out of joint, cancel some sales, don't renew any existing deals coming to an end.

DAMAGE MAXIMISATION.

SvN
02-04-2020, 01:04 PM
Because he wasn't issued with an updated contract, from the sounds of it.

Magic
02-04-2020, 01:11 PM
Because he wasn't issued with an updated contract, from the sounds of it.

Yep. And the ONE MONTH 'mistake' in my HR portal isn't valid. So is the entire HR portal invalid then? Why didn't they issue me with a new contract? I've had three different jobs...

Yes damage maximisation. I'm touting our downstream dealers now to become re-sellers at my new place. And I'm letting my key accounts know I'm leaving. :)

Manc
02-04-2020, 02:11 PM
Mad Men tactics.

Jimmy Floyd
02-04-2020, 02:13 PM
If they admit a contract existed at a certain date, does it matter whether or not you were issued with it? Sounds like clear bad faith to me, but I guess they think you won't sue them for three weeks' pay.

Magic
02-04-2020, 02:15 PM
LOL our MD is contacting my downstream channel and trying to find out what we were working on, then telling them at the end I'm leaving and I'll be on gardening leave from Monday...I know this because they are telling me. What a foolish man. :)

SvN
02-04-2020, 02:18 PM
If they admit a contract existed at a certain date, does it matter whether or not you were issued with it? Sounds like clear bad faith to me, but I guess they think you won't sue them for three weeks' pay.

It's one of those that you could easily argue, but it's a bit of a grey area I'd say. Plus, we don't know the circumstances - how did the contract exist? Was it for all other people at his level? Did a manager mention the new notice period verbally?

Either way, the fact that he wasn't issued with a new contract shows what a shambles they are as a company.

Shindig
02-04-2020, 03:29 PM
Another week off. They're wanting to ramp up bringing people back though now that we're getting people poached for the other side of the building.

Boydy
04-04-2020, 02:27 PM
Our CEO suggested some sort of online social distslancing get-together the other day. He's booked it for this evening (afternoon their time as him and three others are US-based). I wasn't particularly keen on the idea but then he said it would have a 'gameshow format' and I thought maybe a quiz and that'd be fine as I love a good quiz. He's sent through some scorecard thing with 'best drink', 'best drink presentation' and 'best joke' so now I'm expecting some lame 'ice-breaker' style bullshit.

Fuck's sake.

Giggles
04-04-2020, 02:34 PM
Companies should just leave people alone once they’re doing their work.

Spikey M
04-04-2020, 02:35 PM
Before we started working from home our manager floated the idea of 'lunch time group skype calls'. We lol'd at the time, but apparently not enough for her to get that it was a big no.

She tried to get it going twice at first. Nobody answered, so we received a shirty email later in the day about keeping morale up within the team and helping to prevent loneliness. Then 2 people replied asking why that couldn't be done during working hours and she's dropped it all together now. Loneliness. :cool:

Jimmy Floyd
04-04-2020, 03:14 PM
We had some sitcom-esque antics yesterday. Our owner, having furloughed about 50% of the workforce in 24 hours, then sent out an email out to the surviving staff that he and the two other directors with stakes in the company would be taking 20% salary cuts (not likely to get the bailiffs sniffing, but whatever).

Hours later, the chief exec of the Houston branch replies to all on that email and pompously declares 'I, too, will be...'. 15 more minutes elapse, and another email comes in. This time it's the US sales director also volunteering for a 20% pay cut. By this time our MD has come into the now near-empty office shrieking a pained cry asking what is going on and why all these people are volunteering pay cuts all of a sudden. Literally as he's speaking, another email pops in - the director in Miami has taken a pay cut, too, leaving our humble MD as the last one not to have done so.

A couple of people start lolling at him, and he stomps off back to his office with the parting shot 'I'm not rich, you know. I've got a family to feed'. As of now he still hasn't joined them. I hope he doesn't, to be fair, the yanks are all idiots for doing it.

Foe
04-04-2020, 03:20 PM
Working from home extended until mid may.

Also, our yearly pay rises deferred by a few months which is annoying but understandable.

Someone on yammer (eurgh) offered to return her bonus (pre tax) to the company. Just a regular employee too. Moron.

Boydy
04-04-2020, 09:12 PM
Our CEO suggested some sort of online social distslancing get-together the other day. He's booked it for this evening (afternoon their time as him and three others are US-based). I wasn't particularly keen on the idea but then he said it would have a 'gameshow format' and I thought maybe a quiz and that'd be fine as I love a good quiz. He's sent through some scorecard thing with 'best drink', 'best drink presentation' and 'best joke' so now I'm expecting some lame 'ice-breaker' style bullshit.

Fuck's sake.
Fell asleep and missed the start of it so didn't bother joining.

Giggles
04-04-2020, 09:15 PM
“Not a team player”.

Don
04-04-2020, 09:26 PM
That Jimmy story has tickled me.

And on the topic of non-work related shit, godbless the geezer in my team who does a weekly quiz on whatsapp to keep some sort of connections going. I miss the non-work related chat in the office which is not something I ever thought I'd say.

Shindig
06-04-2020, 04:05 PM
They're finally allowing us to take gear home and work. I might ask to go for that instead of sitting around waiting to be put on the rota.

Manc
07-04-2020, 02:24 PM
I've been let go. :facepalm:

Boydy
07-04-2020, 02:31 PM
I've been let go. :facepalm:

Shit. What were you doing? Were you let go because of the coronavirus and lockdown? Could they not furlough people?

Don
07-04-2020, 02:51 PM
I emailed his boss to say he was an associate of Waff.

Manc
07-04-2020, 03:23 PM
Facilities management. Last in first out.

bruhnaldo
07-04-2020, 03:51 PM
Sorry bub.

Shindig
08-04-2020, 12:24 PM
I've got a date for coming back into work. Not next week but the week after. YAY! I've decided not to do the working from home stuff because I've got very little faith in the stuff working. Back in on payday. :cool:

Ian
09-04-2020, 07:19 AM
My work have announced some furloughing and temporary pay reductions for three months but nothing that affects me. The highest earners are taking the bigger salary hit.

Kikó
09-04-2020, 08:19 AM
My wife is now in furlough which is pretty cool as they're topping up her salary.

Had to have a chat with my boss the other day around what we should do with the contractors. Seems a few are being binned.

Andy
09-04-2020, 08:29 AM
My furlough pay is based on my average pay over the last 12 weeks rather than my basic salary which is a relief.

Jimmy Floyd
09-04-2020, 10:01 AM
My lot are already talking about bringing a couple back off furlough because demand is at 50% of normal, and not the 20% they anticipated. I lolled.

SvN
09-04-2020, 10:03 AM
It's weird, we've had a surge of leads come through over the past week, which is the last thing I anticipated. If even a few of them lead to something, I'll probably need to get people back by May.

Boydy
09-04-2020, 10:11 AM
It's weird, we've had a surge of leads come through over the past week, which is the last thing I anticipated. If even a few of them lead to something, I'll probably need to get people back by May.

I thought you said your lot were working from home?

Jimmy Floyd
09-04-2020, 10:14 AM
The way this scheme works, the most efficient way to go about it from a CEO's point of view is to furlough absolutely everyone you possibly can, and then you can bring them back later if it proves you need them. Probably can file that reality under 'unintended consequences', but that's how it will work for most companies.

Presumably that's how Daniel Levy, Liverpool etc got caught in a PR storm, as they just made sense of the scheme that way and didn't see the bigger picture (as bottom line men often don't).

SvN
09-04-2020, 10:22 AM
I thought you said your lot were working from home?

The few of us that are still working are. The others are furloughed (on full pay, I might add #clapforSvN)

Boydy
09-04-2020, 10:22 AM
Ah right, fair enough. Decent of you to do it on full pay.

:clap:

Edit: Forgot that was a real smiley on here and now it just looks really sarcastic. :D

Spikey M
09-04-2020, 10:24 AM
Nice to see you making use of that loan WE gave you.

SvN
09-04-2020, 10:26 AM
I was thinking of using the £10k grant to buy a full size snooker table and putting it on Twitter with the #thanksHMRC hashtag.

Jimmy Floyd
09-04-2020, 10:26 AM
The clap emoji (or the Sir Henry Winter clap, as it should be known) should be taxed at 100%.

Raoul Duke
09-04-2020, 12:29 PM
I've got a potential whole load of ballache with regards to moving to Amsterdam. Firstly due to the pure logistics of it all and second in relation to the tax set-up (they have a 30% tax rate for foreign hires). I think it looks ok, but won't know until it's confirmed.

I think I'll be working remote here for some part of it and then look to move over once we're allowed to move..before inevitably getting locked down in NL once WAVE TWO happens :moop:

randomlegend
09-04-2020, 01:33 PM
We're getting so much free food in paeds atm, and doing less work than we've ever done.

We got delivered a load of Thai food and dominos during my last shift. Today we've got about 50 Easter eggs, cream eggs, packets of cookies and they've just turned up with a lorry load of kettle chips.

Spikey M
09-04-2020, 02:19 PM
Well I wont be clapping for you fat slags tonight.

Shindig
09-04-2020, 02:21 PM
"I'll make sure the kids get those."

Ian
09-04-2020, 02:29 PM
Bet Randrew wouldn't eat Easter Egg chocolate anyway.

Sir Andy Mahowry
09-04-2020, 02:33 PM
Not unless it was at least 73% cacao picked by a 12 year old slave from Ecuador.

randomlegend
09-04-2020, 02:53 PM
Bet Randrew wouldn't eat Easter Egg chocolate anyway.


Not unless it was at least 73% cacao picked by a 12 year old slave from Ecuador.

Trufax

Shindig
09-04-2020, 03:04 PM
Do they send you a picture of the kid each month?

John
09-04-2020, 05:06 PM
Do they send you a picture of the kid each month?

You're mixing him up with Magic.

Spikey M
09-04-2020, 05:55 PM
I did wonder what the fuck he was going on about.

Jimmy Floyd
15-04-2020, 09:04 AM
I have never known work be as stressful as this. Demand for our parts is basically unchanged (maybe slightly down, but not hugely) and we're running on like 1/4 of the staff. Those of us still here are getting absolutely battered and quite fraught. The phone never stops ringing and customers expect the same service as normal (impossible). Some French cunt, sorry, some Frenchman was just on the phone crying about delivery times being a day slower on average at the moment. Yes, mate, they fucking are.

My furloughed team members have a whatsapp group going, half of which is complaining about being bored, and half of which is asking me what's going on and looking for hints they'll be brought back soon (they won't be). I haven't got a clue what to say to them.

Meanwhile David fucking Brent keeps coming into the office for what he imagines to be morale-boosting pep talks about how he watched Walking Dead last night and his wife cut a tree down without asking him. Just fuck off mate.

Spikey M
15-04-2020, 09:12 AM
Stop meeting demand Jim. Leave the phone ringing, let your processing time drop, etc. You're being taken for a cunt. There's no reason you can't have the full token of office staff working from home aside from 'the fee' for call forwarding. Force his hand.

Foe
15-04-2020, 09:15 AM
Yeah, it’s a mare. Don’t drive yourself to shit storm to protect company margins.

If the system has to start failing for them to realise there’s an issue you have to let it fail if reporting it isn’t working.

This isn’t the time for work to be giving you a mental health issue.

Take a step back. Call your MD a cunt and work at your usual pace.

Magic
15-04-2020, 09:35 AM
Got my exit interview today. I don't want to speak to them. They cut my mobile off even though they knew I had no personal one.

Giggles
15-04-2020, 09:43 AM
If you don't need the reference then don't show. Let them think you will though, obviously.

Magic
15-04-2020, 10:33 AM
I was extra nice and said they were amazing. This will lull them in to a false sense of security. :drool:

Giggles
15-04-2020, 10:34 AM
I was extra nice and said they were amazing. This will lull them in to a false sense of security. :drool:

You bottled it you mean.

Spikey M
15-04-2020, 10:35 AM
Good feedback. That's them told.

Magic
15-04-2020, 10:38 AM
Why would I help them sort their problems? This is far more insidious.

Kikó
15-04-2020, 10:42 AM
I had an interview for a role in Frankfurt yesterday. Think it went reasonably well. Find out next week if I'm in for a second interview.

Spikey M
15-04-2020, 10:54 AM
Why would I help them sort their problems? This is far more insidious.

You don't. You just call them a sack of shit and don't go into the hows and why's.

SvN
15-04-2020, 10:57 AM
If you haven't realised that Magic is a massive pussy by now, then you never will.

Ian
15-04-2020, 11:07 AM
"lull them into a false sense of security. :drool:"
"far more insidious."

:D

Calm down man, you're not exactly bringing down a megacorp here.

Didn't even tell them I still have a notepad I got out of the stationary cupboard before I left the office last. 1-0 to Magic, methinks!

Magic
15-04-2020, 11:15 AM
I take the wins where I can.

Spikey M
15-04-2020, 11:20 AM
This is a capital, bold, underlined L.

Giggles
15-04-2020, 11:29 AM
"In my last ever contact with them after they took my car and cut off my phone I told them they're great".

I feel for them at this trying time.

SvN
15-04-2020, 12:57 PM
Yeah but he was lying - he really thought they were mean, so needless to say he's had the last laugh.

Pepe
15-04-2020, 01:09 PM
What a donning you provided, Magic. True man of the people.

Jimmy Floyd
15-04-2020, 01:42 PM
My boss thinks Whatsapp is called 'What's Up'. Just properly pissed myself laughing at that, I think out of sheer emotional release.

Ian
15-04-2020, 01:47 PM
:D

niko_cee
15-04-2020, 03:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-1basQhX8

Baz
15-04-2020, 05:10 PM
Thinking about Magic getting on the bus (they took his car off him) crying and then going home to literally get bummed off his girlfriend makes me laugh.

randomlegend
15-04-2020, 05:17 PM
I can't even understand in what way Magic thinks he won.

Baz
15-04-2020, 05:20 PM
If work is that bad you’d rather just save yourself the effort and distress of telling them and instead just think sod it and leave “on good terms” because you’re completely done with the company and never want to think about your time working there ever again.

Raoul Duke
15-04-2020, 05:34 PM
At least take a shit in the kettle and stick it on before you walk out the door

Spikey M
15-04-2020, 05:35 PM
He probably gave them all passive aggressive blowjobs on the way out. Teach them to mess with The Custard.

Manc
15-04-2020, 05:35 PM
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/furlough-scheme-cut-off-date-extended-to-19-march

I now qualify for this. Likelihood of my employers rehiring+furloughing me in the midst of an appeal to terminate my previous contract? :moop:

7om
15-04-2020, 05:37 PM
I naively was completely honest on the exit interview from my first job out of uni. It ended up with my boss losing her rag and screaming that she "wanted me out". A week later she gave me a lovely card signed by all the staff. Yeah, she was a bit odd.

Ian
15-04-2020, 05:42 PM
My last job never even did my exit interview. I assume they knew exactly what my answer was going to be but didn't much fancy hearing me actually say it.

Jimmy Floyd
15-04-2020, 05:49 PM
The Koreans didn't give me an exit interview. I would have told them all about the benefits of herd immunity and how contact tracing was a bad idea.

Shindig
15-04-2020, 05:50 PM
And then left the interview five minutes early.

Baz
15-04-2020, 05:56 PM
My last job never even did my exit interview. I assume they knew exactly what my answer was going to be but didn't much fancy hearing me actually say it.I’ve never had one and am on my 5th job. :cab:

Magic
15-04-2020, 07:28 PM
I won.

Ian
15-04-2020, 07:36 PM
You donned 'em, mate. :console:

Shindig
15-04-2020, 07:43 PM
I mean, you can't really lose unless your new job is completely shite.

Offshore Toon
17-04-2020, 09:05 PM
Starting a three month contract on Monday. The plan is to eventually work from home, but in the short-term I'm excited to find out how offices are organising use of toilet and kitchen space.

Shindig
17-04-2020, 09:37 PM
1. Block out the middle urinal.
2. 1 in 1 out kitchen policy.

Probably. I really, really hope I can find an excuse to get some lunch in town. Probably end up having to bring my own bait and find a corner.

Jimmy Floyd
18-04-2020, 12:18 AM
I'm just not using the kitchen, and I'm going to a toilet on the other side of the building which nobody else is currently using. I bring in 4 litres of water a day to get me through.

Don
18-04-2020, 12:31 AM
Is that to bathe in?

Luca
18-04-2020, 09:44 PM
It's to spray people who come near him.

Shindig
18-04-2020, 09:49 PM
If the Cooplands van is still turning up at lunchtime, I'll be so fucking chuffed.

Jimmy Floyd
18-04-2020, 11:01 PM
The van at ours is still coming. His dixie land siren sounds a little melancholy, if truth be told.

Shindig
19-04-2020, 08:54 AM
Ours just honks madly. If I hear it, I'll be straight down.

Jimmy Floyd
20-04-2020, 02:54 PM
It's only Monday, but I am already a completely spent force.

At the start of this, work was OK - whether all in the office or on rotation, our team had a good togetherness. Since they all got furloughed on 1 April, it just feels like a solitary treadmill, day after day, each day busier than the last, with the only thing to work towards being the chance to go home and sit on the sofa for two days at the weekend.

I still don't know if this is better or worse than being furloughed either. The mortgage says better.

Ian
20-04-2020, 03:05 PM
That sounds pretty grim.

Foe
20-04-2020, 03:07 PM
Seriously, take heed of the previous advice.

Knocking your pan in so you’re struggling personally is not the solution. Do what you can, accept defeat on some aspects and keep yourself healthy.

What you’re describing is shit from the company but you play a part too. You need to say no. Otherwise you’ll end off with stress related illnesses.

My work was brutal the last 4 weeks, the last two in particular I was also covering my boss and it was torture. Decided this week will be a significantly lighter week. Ignoring non urgent calls and requests to stick within my working hours and have a “low stress” week.

Jimmy Floyd
20-04-2020, 03:32 PM
In sales it's a choice of either doing the job or not. Logic suggests I need the company to do as well as possible at this point, so I try as hard as I can. In this situation I don't think I can just turn up and go through the motions. It's also better to have something to get stuck into than not.

The problem is more the isolation and feeling that there is absolutely no end in sight. By the time everyone comes back I will be fucking knackered.

I can tell that the very few other people here (1 purchasing lady, 1 shipping lady) are feeling it as well. My line manager is working from home and the MD is in the office. Other than that it's a mausoleum, albeit a pretty profitable one.

Spikey M
20-04-2020, 03:41 PM
You can do your job without killing yourself surely? Work at your normal pace. If customers fall through the cracks because there's nobody else there then so be it. I'd be laughing my arse off if I was sat at home being furloughed whilst you ran yourself into the ground for a few extra hundred quid.

SvN
20-04-2020, 03:42 PM
Bear in mind that if things are ticking along fine with a skeleton staff, they'll probably never bother bringing the others back.

Spikey M
20-04-2020, 03:47 PM
The fucker is probably already looking at Yachts.

Jimmy Floyd
20-04-2020, 03:50 PM
It's a difficult one to predict. The way we do business, we sell to two types of customer: people whose engines are carked and need them back up ASAP, and people who stock parts for resale. The latter are the profitable side of it and it's they who are down in terms of revenue (I suspect, but in this company there is zero chance that anyone would ever let me see any relevant figures. I keep my own figures, but that only covers my personal territories). The wheel kickers are still all up and running and their engines are still breaking down, which keeps our workload high but means that our staffing costs are probably a lot more acute than they might have been.

We are normally a 50 person operation and currently only 20 of those are working, 14 of them in the warehouse. I don't think they can downscale THAT much, even if a couple of the more useless corpses do fall by the wayside.

Foe
20-04-2020, 03:59 PM
End of the day though, you need to look after you. That’s the reason for going to work on a fundamental level. Unless you’re paid enough to mitigate the health issues stress can cause (and for me, that figure is well into six figures which would mean a very early retirement) then it’s not worth it.

How’s your eating? Reckon couple shite diet and your working conditions and it’s tatties.

Also, the oil price is very much :cry:

Lewis
20-04-2020, 05:31 PM
Don't look now.

Shindig
20-04-2020, 07:17 PM
We're probably about a third full. I've already had to move a desk over which is fine. It's so bloody dull, though. Durham is silent now and the roads are so quiet the roadworks at Neville's Cross are a quaint inconvenience. Was a bit miffed to immediately be put on the phones but the normal work has slowed down. I don't think I realised how important it is to send people in for assessments. It slows right down to a trickle when it's just telephone assessments. They're quick calls, too which I don't mind.

Still, walking around town is some last man on earth shit. I can't recall seeing a bus carrying any passengers and there is no rail services. And life without Greggs is .... like, I'm saving money but eating the most boring shit I can grab.

Offshore Toon
20-04-2020, 08:59 PM
Social distancing in an office is alright, you know. Definitely better than normal. There was nothing I did today that required me to be in an office, though, and I bet you it's the same tomorrow. I'll be back working from home by next week I reckon.

Jimmy Floyd
21-04-2020, 05:42 PM
My MD managed a new low for fucking vapid people skills this afternoon.

He was through for another one of his 'friendly' chats with me and the shipping manager, and we were talking about how things were still surprisingly busy and my markets had already taken £100,000 this month despite everything (we normally look for 150-200k in a month, so given covid and the fact that everyone is furloughed, it's going pretty well).

'Problem is,' he says, '(Jim) can sit there all day, make 20 deals and take £100,000 all he likes, but that's not where the company margin is. Now, when I do a big job for the Saudis...'

I don't think he meant it to come across like that, and it's undoubtedly true, I just think he has the people skills of a cup-a-soup. It's honestly not what you should be saying to your staff, ever, but especially not when you need them motivated.

Foe
21-04-2020, 06:00 PM
Still think knocking your pan in to the detriment of your health is worthwhile?

I’m getting tired of working from home. Sitting at a dining room chair is brutal. Going to speak to my boss about a desk and computer chair.

Raoul Duke
21-04-2020, 06:04 PM
There'll probably be a fair few becoming free soon, so you should be in luck

Shindig
21-04-2020, 06:27 PM
I got the 'Hey, you can work from home, you know?" email today as well. I've not got the setup for it plus I'd diminish my role a bit. I've never loved working on the phones but I can tolerate the covid-related phone bollocks. Plus it has a direct influence on the other work we do, now that those are almost all the assessments we'll get to carry out.

Danny
21-04-2020, 06:35 PM
Still think knocking your pan in to the detriment of your health is worthwhile?

I’m getting tired of working from home. Sitting at a dining room chair is brutal. Going to speak to my boss about a desk and computer chair.

I am lucky I had a set up at home that was probably better than most people I work with. Some of them had to take a single monitor home to hook up to their laptop. No chance I would be able to do that.

Jimmy Floyd
21-04-2020, 06:47 PM
In my three days working from home, I could do about five hours on a dining chair but then had to retreat to the sofa. Office chairs are underrated things.

Offshore Toon
21-04-2020, 06:59 PM
Was very close to working from home again today. The people I'm reporting into told me I could work from home if I wanted to, so I went to my client manager and we agreed it would be best to work from home. I then okayed it with another person I'm working with, and we were all set. Just had to run it past one person that I'd never heard of who has blocked it 'until I get to grips with the role'. A role I'm more than qualified to do and I'm only helping them because of corona. Eeeediyat. But tbh I don't mind the office. Music is worse, but I eat less.

SvN
22-04-2020, 08:25 AM
In my three days working from home, I could do about five hours on a dining chair but then had to retreat to the sofa. Office chairs are underrated things.

About a year ago, the chair in my home office broke on a Thursday, and I did a single day working on a shit plastic chair on Friday, before my new one arrived Saturday.

It knackered my back up for months. It's still not 100% now, but it's a lot better since I spent a fortune on a new mattress.

Boydy
22-04-2020, 08:55 AM
I've got this (https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/millberget-swivel-chair-bomstad-black-70339413/) from Ikea and it's pretty great for the price.

Jimmy Floyd
22-04-2020, 08:58 AM
If I was ever going to spend a significant amount of time working from home, I reckon I'd go johnny big balls and put several hundred quid into one. Must be worth it in the long run.

Baz
22-04-2020, 09:10 AM
CBA working now. Got invoices coming out my arse. Not being able to print anything is making things very hard and having to do all my work on my small laptop screen is a pain!

Two people from my team are being redeployed so I should be grateful, I guess, but it’s very annoying atm.

Jimmy Floyd
22-04-2020, 09:13 AM
Could you not take your office PC home? Even our company, with its 1970s working practices, arranged for people to take extra screens home or in one case even their whole setup.

My team whatsapp group, which had been quite active in the initial stages of the furlough era, has now been completely silent for ten days. It's so awkward. I can't really reignite the chat as they're probably all bitter that I was the one kept on.

Boydy
22-04-2020, 09:27 AM
Turned the sound off for notifications on Teams.

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Ian
22-04-2020, 09:56 AM
We've not got the full details yet but my work are apparently going to rotate who's on furlough, which I actually think is pretty fair so long as there are no other implications of that (I can't see any on the Government website but it may be me being dim.) Basically so that a) nobody's getting out of touch with not being at work for potentially months on end and b) so it doesn't feel like the furloughed staff are basically just being set up for redundancy. No idea if it's likely to affect me but I wouldn't feel so bad about it now. Assuming their reassurances count for anything of course.

Jimmy Floyd
22-04-2020, 10:07 AM
Pretty sure they're allowed to do it as long as each period is minimum three weeks.

Ian
22-04-2020, 10:09 AM
Yeah that was my understanding and despite some random articles saying it's a no go I couldn't find anything on the government website to contradict it.

SvN
22-04-2020, 10:17 AM
My team whatsapp group, which had been quite active in the initial stages of the furlough era, has now been completely silent for ten days. It's so awkward. I can't really reignite the chat as they're probably all bitter that I was the one kept on.

Surely they're the lucky ones? Getting months off at 80% pay is a pretty sweet deal.

Baz
22-04-2020, 10:37 AM
Could you not take your office PC home? Even our company, with its 1970s working practices, arranged for people to take extra screens home or in one case even their whole setup.

My team whatsapp group, which had been quite active in the initial stages of the furlough era, has now been completely silent for ten days. It's so awkward. I can't really reignite the chat as they're probably all bitter that I was the one kept on.
Probably could have but the buildings now shutdown.

I could plug it into my own monitor but I begrudge it. Will probably end up doing it, depending on how long this lasts.

Magic
22-04-2020, 10:42 AM
I've heard absolutely nothing from my new employers about the strategy for onboarding me. I start on the 1st.:harold:

Jimmy Floyd
22-04-2020, 11:05 AM
Surely they're the lucky ones? Getting months off at 80% pay is a pretty sweet deal.

They obviously don't think so based on what they were saying. In particular one of the guys who's been here longer than me sounded very miffed about the fact that he went and I stayed.

It's probably one of those situations where each party think they have it worse, but I'm pretty sure I actually do.

Raoul Duke
22-04-2020, 11:17 AM
One day I'm going balls deep on an office chair, specifically a Herman Miller and probably the Aeron Precision: https://www.wellworking.co.uk/chairs-c2/precision-c24?gclid=CL3Hvqfa-8QCFSYTwwodAgYA_Q :drool:

The rule holds firm: spend on quality for shoes/sofas/chairs and beds - you're always in one of those things and it will fuck up your shit if you cheap out on something dreadful.

Don
22-04-2020, 11:44 AM
Work on your core and save the money. My 8-pack has no problems with these badboys:

https://www.oakfurnituresuperstore.co.uk/oak-dining-furniture/dining-chairs/leather-dining-chairs/cavello-charcoal-grey-chairs-18571?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIl_Pe9Pn76AIVt4BQBh1W5w5jEA QYDyABEgKSLPD_BwE#options=color:448;seats:2

Andy
22-04-2020, 11:44 AM
Surely they're the lucky ones? Getting months off at 80% pay is a pretty sweet deal.

Indeed, I'm living a pretty good life right now.

Kikó
22-04-2020, 11:51 AM
Work on your core and save the money. My 8-pack has no problems with these badboys:

https://www.oakfurnituresuperstore.co.uk/oak-dining-furniture/dining-chairs/leather-dining-chairs/cavello-charcoal-grey-chairs-18571?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIl_Pe9Pn76AIVt4BQBh1W5w5jEA QYDyABEgKSLPD_BwE#options=color:448;seats:2

8 pack :happycry:

Foe
22-04-2020, 01:08 PM
Surely they're the lucky ones? Getting months off at 80% pay is a pretty sweet deal.

*nice weather summer months off...

Jimmy Floyd
22-04-2020, 01:10 PM
As soon as I get a week off, or even 2 days off, I am going to the hottest legally travellable place at that time and lying near a body of water all fucking day.

Waffdon
22-04-2020, 01:35 PM
Surely they're the lucky ones? Getting months off at 80% pay is a pretty sweet deal.

100%. All I hear about is how I’m lucky I’m working and have something to do. Working on a laptop instead of a dual monitor set up in your bedroom is fucking awful.

Gimme dat 80% pay. I’d still save more than I miss out on with no travel, paying for lunch and getting pissed every weekend.

Josh
22-04-2020, 01:46 PM
Isn't it up to 2500 in the UK though? So if you earn over 37,500 you're actually going to be receiving less than 80% pay. I'm sure there's plenty of families in that situation where they're pretty fucked and they'd much rather be working.

Waffdon
22-04-2020, 01:53 PM
Aye but I’m a lazy shit not earning that money. Fuck ‘em

Andy
22-04-2020, 01:54 PM
Isn't it up to 2500 in the UK though? So if you earn over 37,500 you're actually going to be receiving less than 80% pay. I'm sure there's plenty of families in that situation where they're pretty fucked and they'd much rather be working.

Yeah, £2500 max. I think that's why they've bought in the mortgage and loan breaks etc.

I'm getting £490 take home per week, if that was the sole income for a family it wouldnt go far if you had loads of outgoing or debt.

Lewis
22-04-2020, 01:54 PM
The civil service position is that you can have a shit chair until you're crippled by it, and then they'll shell out about four grand for a special needs support chair and one of them jazzy standing desks. Where I work used to have an actual midget (before my time), and his lol little midget chair is still floating around the office. I used it for a day a while back, and because you have to support yourself on it rather than sludge into it, it would probably do people some good to use them.

Smjffy
22-04-2020, 02:11 PM
I get 0% until the wankers change the dates on the JRS, just to rub salt in the wounds, I've discovered I won't even get UC until June as the payment I got on March 27th (all £440 of it!) means I've earned too much for UC.

Or in simple terms, I have £10.85 in the bank and about £60 on me and this has to last until June 9th. :D

Get fucked, Rishi.

I'm hoping it will change as we are putting a lot of pressure on the treasury to sort it but the crafty bastards will no doubt make another change that makes zero change, some suggest as many as 400,000 to 500,000 in hospitality alone in the same position as me but some can't claim UC as partners still work etc. It doesn't help that the season literally starts from March to October so that's a lot of lost earnings.

Add in that the public were told to stay away, then add in that we were closed down before lock down was even a thing, then add in that I'd worked nearly three weeks for new employer before the Job Retention Scheme was even a thing. Then add a small dose of Rishi saying he can't include everyone because fraud, hence the RTI date....let's forget the emails with employer, the signed contract, the wage slip and the fact it shows on my government tax thing...what more proof could one need?

I'm at the point where I just think pfft, whatever but a career in crime might be the next step. Mellin v2.

Luca
22-04-2020, 03:28 PM
I've heard absolutely nothing from my new employers about the strategy for onboarding me. I start on the 1st.:harold:

I hear Amazon is hiring delivery drivers.

SvN
22-04-2020, 03:30 PM
I get 0% until the wankers change the dates on the JRS, just to rub salt in the wounds, I've discovered I won't even get UC until June as the payment I got on March 27th (all £440 of it!) means I've earned too much for UC.


They've already changed it, why are you so sure they'll change it again? With the scheme now being live, I'll be surprised if they do backtrack and change the date again.

If they change the date to be after the scheme was announced, it's going to open up a huge opportunity for fraud. I can't see it happening.

Smjffy
22-04-2020, 03:45 PM
They've already changed it, why are you so sure they'll change it again? With the scheme now being live, I'll be surprised if they do backtrack and change the date again.

If they change the date to be after the scheme was announced, it's going to open up a huge opportunity for fraud. I can't see it happening.

Because the change was bullshit and barely actually changed anything, only a small percentage benefited from it. Essentially anyone who started work after February 28th and got paid before 19th will be OK so if you were paid weekly you'd be fine but those paid monthly (pretty much most) are excluded.

I am semi confident it will change or something else will be offered based purely on where we were when it started to where we are now. The first change wouldn't have happened had we not been campaigning for it, which is why so many of us know that the change was no change at all. Now we've had numerous MP's write to Rishi detailing why it's wrong, media have now been sniffing and the last week in particular we've seen a huge increase there as more and more find out that they aren't actually eligible. Thousands upon thousands of us have enough proof to show it's not fraud, signed contracts, payslips, correspondence etc. Hell, in my case I'm still living in staff accommodation as of right now.

SvN
22-04-2020, 04:32 PM
I don't know about it being bullshit, they estimate that it allowed an extra 200,000 people to claim, which feels significant to me. I hope for your sake they change it, but I'm doubtful.

Smjffy
22-04-2020, 04:45 PM
I don't know about it being bullshit, they estimate that it allowed an extra 200,000 people to claim, which feels significant to me. I hope for your sake they change it, but I'm doubtful.

The 200,000 has already been proven not to be true as far as I recall and merely clarifies the rules as opposed to changing them. Technically I and many others like me are included in that 200,000 number but it simply isn't true as employers can't furlough me, last employer won't because they feel iffy about it (that was Rishi Sunak's suggestion...which sounds pretty fraudulent to me, the fucking irony! lol)

I am optimistic by nature and for some reason we've attracted a good number of actual employers into the group recently, even my own asked only today to be added so I sense something might be brewing.

I hope for my sake it is too or I might have to ask for a whip around come May. :D

Shindig
22-04-2020, 06:32 PM
As soon as I get a week off, or even 2 days off, I am going to the hottest legally travellable place at that time and lying near a body of water all fucking day.

I'll settle for London at this rate.

Today was horrible at work. We have nothing and it drags more than usual.

Giggles
22-04-2020, 07:13 PM
As soon as I get a week off, or even 2 days off, I am going to the hottest legally travellable place at that time and lying near a body of water all fucking day.

But a paddling pool.

Foe
22-04-2020, 08:56 PM
I'll settle for London at this rate.

Today was horrible at work. We have nothing and it drags more than usual.

You were frothing at the mouth to get back to work and now you’re complaining it’s quiet?

I’m telling you these furlough folks are winning here (those getting 80% of their normal pay, not those who are on substantially more and getting fucked).

I was in three different teams calls for 6/8 of my working hours today. Brutal.

Reckon I’m average a packet of chocolate digestives every 2 days.

Shindig
22-04-2020, 08:58 PM
I've broken into a packet of Hobnobs. They'll not survive the rest of the week.

Smjffy
22-04-2020, 09:16 PM
Standard McVities Hobnobs, home made honey comb then smother in white chocolate.

Do it, Shinners. It's a completely different spin.

John
22-04-2020, 09:47 PM
Standard McVities Hobnobs, home made honey comb then smother in white chocolate.

Do it, Shinners. It's a completely different spin.

Yep, Shinners has always struck me as the sort of man who could make his own honeycomb but just didn't for whatever reason.

Smjffy
22-04-2020, 09:52 PM
If only there was a website you could use where you could ask it a question and it provided an answer. "How do you make honeycomb?" That would be awesome.

Ian
22-04-2020, 10:04 PM
https://www.honeycomb.net/

Well they were no help at all.

Disco
22-04-2020, 10:12 PM
Unless you're a bee nobody is making homemade honeycomb.

Jimmy Floyd
22-04-2020, 10:13 PM
Isn't it bees that make honeycomb? Or is the sugary shite inside a Crunchie also called that? I hardly eat sweet stuff.

Shindig
23-04-2020, 05:58 AM
Yep. Not a huge fan.

Spikey M
23-04-2020, 07:11 AM
I tried to make honeycomb once. It's harder that you'd think. The cooking time difference between not done and burnt is about 0.0003 seconds.

Kikó
23-04-2020, 07:31 AM
You were frothing at the mouth to get back to work and now you’re complaining it’s quiet?

I’m telling you these furlough folks are winning here (those getting 80% of their normal pay, not those who are on substantially more and getting fucked).

I was in three different teams calls for 6/8 of my working hours today. Brutal.

Reckon I’m average a packet of chocolate digestives every 2 days.

This. The wife is on furlough and getting work topping up the remainder. She has had to become a 60s housewife but it's better than working.

Yesterday was hellish for work, about 5 hours sat on calls. Fries your brain /5GMAST

Jimmy Floyd
23-04-2020, 08:27 AM
MD has been in the office this morning commenting how with 12 warehouse workers instead of 25, the figures suggest we are 'much more productive per person'.

And so it begins.

Raoul Duke
23-04-2020, 09:05 AM
MD has been in the office this morning commenting how with 12 warehouse workers instead of 25, the figures suggest we are 'much more productive per person'.

And so it begins.

You should mention that also things are running smoothly with only 50% of the management team in too :sherlock:

niko_cee
23-04-2020, 11:56 AM
Didn't the same thing happen after the banking crisis when all the big banks realised they made record profits after sacking half of their time-waster workforce? Or was that just on the back of having access to vast amounts of essentially free money to mark up and move on? Either way, they went back to rehiring eventually.

Jimmy Floyd
23-04-2020, 12:45 PM
Our place has a weird obsession with chasing turnover/relative size in the marketplace as opposed to overall margin, so that will need more people to re-establish - although it does help that several of our biggest competitors are Italian, and also useless, if indeed those two things are to be treated separately.

Don
23-04-2020, 12:59 PM
Your deteriorating mental welfare has really lead to some tremendous writing :D

Jimmy Floyd
23-04-2020, 01:16 PM
But a paddling pool.

If this is to be the future of leisure time then I can think of better uses for a hose pipe.

Lewis
23-04-2020, 01:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROxaZEvi1D4

Too right.

Giggles
23-04-2020, 06:05 PM
If this is to be the future of leisure time then I can think of better uses for a hose pipe.

I can’t think of anything better. Maybe less neighbours.

Shindig
23-04-2020, 06:12 PM
I've pulled the trigger on working from home. The bosses seem to be really pushing for it, probably to prevent illness tearing through the office. Something tells me that'll be my life for the rest of the year.

Andy
23-04-2020, 06:52 PM
My wife was told today unless something drastic happens they think she will be working from home for the rest of the year.

Going to be a shock when she has to start getting up at 6 for a commute to London after 9+ months of getting up at 8.45 to start at 9.

Jimmy Floyd
23-04-2020, 06:57 PM
I'd be surprised if there isn't a permanent widespread move towards significantly more working from home now (there would have been anyway, but much more gradual).

mugbull
23-04-2020, 07:06 PM
I'd be surprised if there isn't a permanent widespread move towards significantly more working from home now (there would have been anyway, but much more gradual).

I think in the short-term post corona it’ll have the opposite effect. It’s pretty horrendous and most people will be glad to just go somewhere

Andy
23-04-2020, 07:06 PM
I'd be surprised if there isn't a permanent widespread move towards significantly more working from home now (there would have been anyway, but much more gradual).

Indeed, got to be good for the country as a whole. Spread the money/wages around the country rather than just places close to London.

Foe
23-04-2020, 07:14 PM
I'd be surprised if there isn't a permanent widespread move towards significantly more working from home now (there would have been anyway, but much more gradual).

I’m an employee rep and I reached out to my organisation for feedback and there’s an overwhelming desire to keep flexible working in some form. It’s horrible for me because the programs use are slower than sin away from the office and I need to work collaboratively more than MS teams can provide.

I think there will be a shift.

Shindig
23-04-2020, 07:20 PM
It's fine for those that don't want their role to change. Like the guys wanting to retire in a couple of years. I'm not sure how I'd take to it as a permanent fixture but I'd probably look elsewhere if it got too dull. Unless this disease never leaves.

Jimmy Floyd
23-04-2020, 07:24 PM
I think in the short-term post corona it’ll have the opposite effect. It’s pretty horrendous and most people will be glad to just go somewhere

I'm really thinking from a business point of view rather than anything else, but you could be right.

Foe
23-04-2020, 07:41 PM
It's fine for those that don't want their role to change. Like the guys wanting to retire in a couple of years. I'm not sure how I'd take to it as a permanent fixture but I'd probably look elsewhere if it got too dull. Unless this disease never leaves.

Yeah there’s a balance. There will be business who might push it to reduce rent, and employees who push it for flexibility and cost savings (also, some selfishly so they can slack).

However there’s plenty who won’t want it. Those who live alone for example, could become a complete recluse.

I’d be surprised if we didn’t end up with some functions having flexibility to work from home part time, maybe even just every Friday or something.

Lewis
23-04-2020, 07:50 PM
The conditions will never be better for canning high-speed rail, so hopefully that gets put back up for review.

Lofty
23-04-2020, 09:30 PM
My mate works IT for a big company and has been instructed to work from home until next year. I am with Jim on furlough, it's all gravy now but every day this goes on the chances of their jobs existing after diminish, particularly if the employers trying to weather the economic shit storm that follows work out they don't need them. I'd rather fry my brain with spreadsheets every day til it is over than toss it off for 12 weeks then see my career drift down the shitter in the worst jobs market in 200+ years.

Jimmy Floyd
23-04-2020, 09:56 PM
Exactly that and well put.

It's a slog but at least I know where I am. When this started and I became the Chosen One, my boss said 'You do still want to be working, don't you?' 'No' is never the correct answer to that question, unless you're seventy.

Kikó
24-04-2020, 08:14 AM
We've started the discussion on "workforce of the future" internally which is all about can we move towards a more work from home friendly model. We really don't have the collaborative tool set at the moment to do it and I want them to actually give me a work laptop rather than weather mine. I'm loving wfh.

Mike
24-04-2020, 02:00 PM
Back in next week. Apparently the number of kids coming in is way up, I’m in 5 days. The head said he’ll try to keep it so you’re down for a week then off for 3 but if numbers keep going up might not be able too. Apparently they’re more challenging children in now too.

Be good to have a more normal week though, see people and stuff.

Jimmy Floyd
27-04-2020, 01:45 PM
Today is a terrible day at the office and really the only choice left is who to murder first: my boss; my largest German customer, Torsten von Boring; or a high street full of people. Probably not the latter, as there fucking isn't one available, so Torsten's getting the cruise missile straight into his meaty bockwurst.

mo
27-04-2020, 02:27 PM
cruise missile straight into his meaty bockwurst.

Is this a threat or a come-on?

Magic
27-04-2020, 03:40 PM
I start my new job on Friday and I haven't heard a thing. :D

Jimmy Floyd
27-04-2020, 03:45 PM
Send them an email saying 'Just to confirm, I am ready to start on Friday as per xxx, please let me know anything I will need to know in advance. Look forward to commencing.'

Mike
27-04-2020, 03:46 PM
Hurt my back doing that Joe Wicks workout. Moaned all morning but managed to play tennis this afternoon. They have new work for the kids too, they do an hour in the morning and an hour in the afternoon, so was nice to do something normal at work too.

Danny
27-04-2020, 03:47 PM
Send them an email saying 'Just to confirm, I am ready to start on Friday as per xxx, please let me know anything I will need to know in advance. Look forward to commencing.'

Woah woah woah. That’s way too proactive.

bruhnaldo
27-04-2020, 04:56 PM
Jimmy actually spelling it out for him

Kikó
27-04-2020, 05:48 PM
Send them an email saying 'Just to confirm, I am ready to start on Friday as per xxx, please let me know anything I will need to know in advance. Look forward to commencing.'

Heh. Reminds of me of our India dev today who is learning how to code a chatbot. My London guy said the answers for the questions are on confluence so just bring them into the tool for the q&a. Sent me feedback today saying the India guy is learning well but "needs to improve on attention to detail".

The bot had been programmed
"For Outside business interests, a message should be sent to the relevant compliance officer. [PLEASE CHECK ON WORDING WITH JUDITH]"

Nailed it.

Magic
27-04-2020, 05:59 PM
Send them an email saying 'Just to confirm, I am ready to start on Friday as per xxx, please let me know anything I will need to know in advance. Look forward to commencing.'

It's too needy. I am drafting an e-mail to send them on my first day.

"Hello?"

Jimmy Floyd
27-04-2020, 06:00 PM
It's not needy, it's professional. This isn't dating. They've probably forgotten you exist and need reminding.

bruhnaldo
27-04-2020, 06:03 PM
"too needy" holy fuck

Spikey M
27-04-2020, 06:15 PM
It's too needy. I am drafting an e-mail to send them on my first day.

"Hello?"

Too needy. :D


You're such a cuck. You'll be watching your new mrs getting seen to from the wardrobe in no time.

Ian
27-04-2020, 06:45 PM
He'll be wanting to tread carefully. He's already caused the liquidation of one company this month with his devastating put downs.

Shindig
27-04-2020, 06:56 PM
Y'know, I think I'd like working in the same office as Magic but not the same team. Our anxiety steampot went off on one before because we've been told we can have tomorrow off. There's not much work in, there's a big push for social distancing so I'll take a bonus day off. He turns to me and says, "I don't know what to make of this news." and then starts moaning and asking around for second opinions like we're being sacked.

SvN
27-04-2020, 07:24 PM
Reminds me of one of my guys. When I told him he was being furloughed (on full pay, I might add) he said he'd have to speak to his wife before he would agree to it. I don't know why he thought he had a say in it.

Boydy
27-04-2020, 07:30 PM
Can we also take a minute to lol at Magic driving his company car all the way back to his former employer and then getting a hire car to drive home?

Giggles
27-04-2020, 07:30 PM
Can we also take a minute to lol at Magic driving his company car all the way back to his former employer and then getting a hire car to drive home?

On a Sunday.

As if they hadn’t enough of a laugh after the exit interview. A slug has more of a spine.

Offshore Toon
27-04-2020, 08:41 PM
It's all an act, don't you see? Magic was, is, and will always be, the ultimate embodiment of modern culture.

Magic
27-04-2020, 08:47 PM
Can we also take a minute to lol at Magic driving his company car all the way back to his former employer and then getting a hire car to drive home?

Wait until I post what they sent me back home in...:D

Giggles
27-04-2020, 08:48 PM
Wait until I post what they sent me back home in...:D

I’m going to guess at it having a sliding door.

Boydy
27-04-2020, 09:08 PM
A company branded Fiat 500.

Magic
27-04-2020, 09:12 PM
I’m going to guess at it having a sliding door.

Correct.

Magic
28-04-2020, 09:20 AM
I'm just going to phone them today from my partner's mobile. No emails.

Ian
28-04-2020, 09:28 AM
Why not from your mobile?

John
28-04-2020, 09:44 AM
The Vodafone shop isn't open during lockdown.

mo
28-04-2020, 09:46 AM
Why not from your mobile?

His work took it.

SvN
28-04-2020, 09:48 AM
I thought it was so they couldn't screen his call and not answer :D

Ian
28-04-2020, 09:56 AM
I thought it was so they couldn't screen his call and not answer :D

This was where I went too.

"No emails, I'm not leaving a trail!"

Jimmy Floyd
28-04-2020, 09:58 AM
Reminds me of one of my guys. When I told him he was being furloughed (on full pay, I might add) he said he'd have to speak to his wife before he would agree to it. I don't know why he thought he had a say in it.

Probably because before it happened to them, approximately zero per cent of people understood the furlough scheme.

SvN
28-04-2020, 10:06 AM
Probably because before it happened to them, approximately zero per cent of people understood the furlough scheme.

Probably. I did try and explain it, why it was happening, and that their job wasn't at risk (quite the contrary), and everyone else seemed to understand. I still found his response amusing.

Shindig
28-04-2020, 10:10 AM
Our bloke at work had his meltdown after we'd already had an early finish on Friday because of ... lack of work.

Magic
28-04-2020, 11:38 AM
They called me. :cool:

John
28-04-2020, 04:39 PM
They called me. :cool:

What on?

Smjffy
28-04-2020, 04:49 PM
It's always nice when your local MP listens.

Dear smiffy

Thank you for your email about the new starter furlough issues.

I signed EDM 377 last week and have been consistently clear in my support (https://www.facebook.com/MarkTamiMP/posts/10158202123661558?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARCG3ypOb7jBu4 vt2sXNwg7BY1a8pvphi6TmD9tr-mgNM8ugI2SpKQq3ZrIMMx6Gr7sPxJGK8GgbSOUM7vEHRrXV5sD zXuV-fI-vpTFB3vBNb1nx_TdLMxtMLgzan2I2bWNCYKuYGUbEs5DSYj2OM _pNebI0XktE4pdOWkqJRcdWlHCDK7rdBR7zZ1oHAgrlKg3gQX7 MmiwonCxR3qbmot_JVsrfISq0ho_-KTjHlDRZgeh4akpulApy6772hB8B1ADLHr5o7AecK2XaB7BSDi q1jrfOPJQvXyRaJgbYCbgAL05kb6wKxKxQCMiSXE_eh3OdosQ2 3CBdMK5leA&__tn__=-R)for people caught in the Chancellor's furlough trap. I have written to the Chancellor about this issue and continue to call for a fair system that guarantees people's livelihoods.

I have also written to the Chancellor about this matter, and you can read my letter here (https://www.facebook.com/MarkTamiMP/photos/a.74256601557/10158136739736558/?type=3&theater).

If there is any specific advice that you need regarding your benefit entitlement please feel free to contact my office on ---. I would like to offer my best wishes at this challenging time.

Yours sincerely,

Mark Tami

That was nice.

Anneliese Dodds sent a letter today undersigned by 36 MP's, Jeremy Corbyn amongst them, Jeremy Vine highlighted our campaign, Carol Vordoman has highlighted it. We're gaining traction.

I'm not going to lie chaps, this has been one of the hardest periods of my life. I've been to some shitty places before but I have never had everything taken away from me overnight. I have literally been eating every other day since the 19th April because I was running out of food and not a single penny to my name.

The stress has been insurmountable I've got to be honest. Fuck Covid, I've been having an invisible fight with the Chancellor more than anything during this pandemic because there's hundreds of thousands of us in my position.

I don't want to get too ahead of myself because yesterday's Economy update just floored me but today has been the best day in a while.

I feel blessed thanks to someone (you know who you are) and now I continue fighting for myself and for the masses amount of people who have been royally screwed over by this scheme.

Hope you don't mind me posting in here. Just, you know, it's hard and I've kept it in too long. I daren't tell my family the situation that I've found myself in because it would put undue stress on them too. I'll remember these days for as long as I live.

Magic
28-04-2020, 05:18 PM
What on?

My shit company couldn't manage to divert my mobile properly so I can still receive calls.

Don
28-04-2020, 05:23 PM
I did say name me in the post but anyway, you're welcome mate.

Mike
28-04-2020, 07:02 PM
Skipped Joe Wicks today so no further back injuries. Played tennis and badminton for most of the day, along with making sure a lad with some behavioural issues behaved. It’s meant to rain tomorrow, which would suck so much as being able to just go out has been so useful.

It’s fun, I miss my actual job though. They’re apparently upping the amount of work they’re making the kids do before all the fun stuff though.

Giggles
29-04-2020, 07:17 AM
I was on a site yesterday til 7, which meant I wasn't home til nearly 9 last night, and they've rang me this morning at 7:16 the cheeky cunts. I think I could do with some self isolation.

Magic
29-04-2020, 09:55 AM
What I had:

https://i.ibb.co/3yzcKLL/IMG-20200426-131633-resized-20200428-124037823-1.jpg

What they gave me:

https://i.ibb.co/FWddfvS/IMG-20200426-200140-resized-20200428-124014237-1.jpg

What I am temporarily driving:

https://i.ibb.co/JR5gFXm/IMG-20200426-WA0016-resized-20200428-124057574.jpg

They've still not picked THE BUCKET up, so it's costing my company money every day it hides down the street from my house. Passive aggressive. :drool:

Magic
29-04-2020, 09:58 AM
Anyway my new company phoned me yesterday, told me they'd been working on a new remote onboarding 3 week plan for me over the past couple of weeks. I'm getting my lappy and mobi today, for starting on Monday. This will be weird as fuck.

The guys are dead nice, had a barrage of emails and calls yesterday to sort out my personal mobile number as well (which my old company had diverted) and they've organised a dual SIM phone for me. They seem like a really great bunch. :)

Fuck my old place to the ground.