UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

[Lewis]

It is really weird how you're SO desperate to downplay and deflect on their behalf. You come across like you care more about the Conservative party than your own family.
Lewis obviously.

I've been calling him and his government shit for ages, so you're not really paying attention if you think I'm overly invested in him or the Conservative Party. I just 1) don't really care [and can't personally judge]; and b) think a lot of the roaring and seething about it is disingenuous.

[Lewis]

I mean. Really. No doctors socialised after their shifts finished on hospital grounds? Nobody, in the whole entire organisation? For over a year? And if they did the hospital would have exposed and sacked them and had them struck off?

[randomlegend]

I mean. Really. No doctors socialised after their shifts finished on hospital grounds? Nobody, in the whole entire organisation? For over a year? And if they did the hospital would have exposed and sacked them and had them struck off?

I never saw it. I know of nobody who was involved in it or has any knowledge of it happening.

Yes I absolutely believe I would have been struck off if I'd done that.

[-james-]

I never saw it. I know of nobody who was involved in it or has any knowledge of it happening.



:loser:

[Pepe]

As if anyone followed all rules all throughout.

[Lewis]

They didn't even strike that doctor who pulled a baby's head off. As if they're ending you over a staff room social you mentalist.

[Mellberg]

Completely lost the plot going after future Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer like that. Works better when you slip it on the front pages of your mates' jizzrags, Bozza.

[niko_cee]

Half expecting Boris to come out and say he can't have been at X, Y or Z party as he was busy carding a 27 round Wentworth with Kim Jong Un [backed up by Nadine Dorries shouting "The Prime Minister doesn't lie!"]. Like the precariousness of civil society, as highlighted through the lens of the pandemic, this is all very tinpot dictatorship sort of stuff.

[Ben]

As if anyone followed all rules all throughout.

Caveat being Boris and his pals made the rules. Going on TV to tell us all to stay at home blah blah blah, then not one hour later lording it up at No. 10.

It's the complete hypocrisy and belief they're above all the rules that's scandalous, not the act of having a swift half with your work buddies.

[Shindig]

The gall to do it after a couple of weeks on the ward, too.

[Yevrah]

Jim's mostly right for me, the biggest problem with this whole affair and Boris' leadership to date is that he's an habitual liar and he's not even very good at it.

[Spikey M]

He's just a fair weather leader. When the times call for Rugby tackling small children, riding zip lines and pretending you invented the bicycle, then he's all over it and he will make people laugh along the way.

When the times call for strong and sensible leadership - like during a pandemic, economic difficulties, soaring inflation and Russian war drumming - then the cunt is massively out of place.

[Lofty]

Never mind all the dodgy Russian links he has whilst talking a good game about Ukraine.

[Giggles]

I still can’t believe he’s hanging in there. The biggest indictment ever on France is that they don’t own you (and us) by now.

[Spikey M]

He'll go in April or May after the NI hike and the gas bills going mental. Then they can just blame it all on him and move on.

[Ian]

And then another horrible cunt will come in and they'll still keep running everybody but the fabulously wealthy into the ground and keep saying "Haha those pesky previous governments eh? Better vote us in, we'll definitely fix it."

[Jimmy Floyd]

I still can’t believe he’s hanging in there. The biggest indictment ever on France is that they don’t own you (and us) by now.

Just be thankful you're moored next to us and not them. Instead of sectarian division and deep-seated bitterness, you'd have beheadings and pastries.

[Giggles]

In think I’d take the beheadings if I could have pastries over your sectarian divides and bitterness. There’s not enough beheadings here actually.

[niko_cee]

By pastries he means patisserie.

So pies, pasties and all of their brethren would be out. Fuck that for fraternité.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/05/give-me-back-my-200000-major-donor-tells-tories?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

This is a phenomenal story, as I suppose one would expect from something that starts with the words 'Controversial telecoms mogul'.

[Ben]

It's wild that donors can just buy time with the PM and it's completely accepted.

[phonics]

Yes political corruption is bad but ‘ and a “magical show” by former defence secretary Penny Mordaunt, who once worked as a magician’s assistant.’ Is incredible.

[Lofty]

I can only assume that 'magical show' is slang for sex.

[Shindig]

All this to ask Boris what his favourite colour is.

[Spikey M]

Purple. Specifically the purple of cold pensioners.

[Shindig]

"I bloody love Prince. Did you know he was black?"

[Kikó]

I can only assume that 'magical show' is slang for sex.

A romp I think it's normally called

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60289339

Boris Johnson told his new director of communications Guto Harri, "I will survive", by singing him lines from the Gloria Gaynor song as he appointed him to the post.

Mr Harri told Golwg 360 that after exchanging lines from the 1970s disco hit, and "a lot of laughing", he and Mr Johnson "sat down to have a serious discussion about how to get the government back on track and how we move forward".

:drool:

[Ben]

:facepalm:

[Pepe]

There better be a video of that.

[Lofty]

Apparently Starmer was mobbed by protestors with a noose shouting 'paedo protector' this afternoon, so that bodes well for Labour's already slim election chances.

[Ian]

In a tweet, Prime Minister Boris Johnson condemned the "absolutely disgraceful" behaviour directed at Sir Keir

He's a fucking laugh, isn't he?

[Shindig]

Kier's an ex lawyer. It would be very nice of him to dig up as much shit on Boris and make this personal as fuck.

[niko_cee]

The thing I don't get about this whole Savile thing (really thought he was Saville, apologies to Lord Saville I guess) is that didn't he perpetrate most of his crimes under the watchful eyes of consecutive true blue Tory governments, and, perhaps I'm wildly off the mark here but he always struck me as someone who would have been/was a big fan of Thatcher. Seems a strange hate figure to bring to a partisan bunfight.

[Shindig]

Absolutely. Thatcher would've reminded him of his mother. To be honest, the 'he's a paedo' crew will just move on to Bradford or something else that happened on his watch with the CPS.

[Lewis]

It's a bit of a stretch to think Piers Corbyn and his loitering mong mates take their talking points from the Prime Minister. They were shouting about Julian Assange as well. It's probably good for a few weeks' moral panic though, so maybe they can have another nibble at online anonymity in response.

[Kikó]

Good job Lewis is here to protect his mate.

[Kikó]

Although at what point is Piers Corbyn going to be thrown into prison for his constant incitement?

[Lewis]

So I'm right then.

[Jimmy Floyd]

FBPE twitter coming out en masse (including notable figures) to parrot Kremlin lines in order to try and make Liz Truss look bad is the clearest sign yet that their heads have all completely departed the building.

[Ben]

Truss needs no help in that department.

[Lofty]

To paraphrase Joe Pesci in Goodfellas 'now this is a woman that could fuck up a cup of coffee.'

[Jimmy Floyd]

You might think she's useless (and she is) but taking the moral side of Sergey Lavrov against her is absolutely laughable.

[Boydy]

I thought FBPE sorts hated Russia? Don't they blame Russia for Trump and Brexit?

[niko_cee]

Even if they did, they hate [independent] Britain more, in all likelihood.

Is this Truss's Iron Lady play?

I've not seen or read much about it, but her 'explosive' style is probably quite well suited to dealing with mooks like Lavrov [there's no real point talking to them].

[Ben]

Yeah but Tories worser.

[Ian]

So what have their baddies said to our baddies that has got Twitter agitated?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Liz went over there and told them to stop preparing to invade Ukraine, they told her to fuck off, then for some reason they did a joint press conference in which Lavrov started seething, calling her names and then stormed out.

I'm not sure either country gained much from it but I honestly didn't think the FBPE crowd would be cheering the Putin regime on from the rafters.

[Ian]

Cretins gonna cretin.

That can apply to both Truss / their lad and the Twitter people.

[Boydy]

Cressida Dick going now.

[niko_cee]

Her and Khan walking side by side is quite the sight. Midget attack!

[Jimmy Floyd]

Look forward to the tug of war between Sadiq trying to appoint some joint-smoking hippy and Patel trying to appoint someone with experience in the Waffen SS. Will make for a splendid police service I'm sure.

[Ben]

I think ultimately the Home Secretary has the say, despite Sadiq’s flexing.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The London mayor (small m) is never more of a pompous oaf than when it comes to the Met chief's job. Boris was the same.

Must be as close as it comes to an impossible job. Crime goes up, you're shit at your job. Crime goes down - as in this case - you'll get caught in a political shitstorm anyway. Happened to the last five or six of them in a row.

[Boydy]

BBC News - Russia-Ukraine crisis: UK nationals told to leave Ukraine
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60355311

:uhoh:

[Manc]

How have they just got troops chilling in Moldova?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Moldova is a puppet state, as is Belarus.

It seems like a massive and costly faff for Putin to get this done. Would think he would lose hundreds or even thousands of troops doing it.

[Ian]

Is that something he would give even one fuck about?

I just assume Russia still has their attitude of "ATTRITION? Lol. Mate, you know how many farmboys we have back here? You can't kill all of them."

[Lewis]

This is such a stupid thing for the West to be involved in. Russia has more than a reasonable case on not wanting [The] Ukraine moving any closer to NATO structures, and we are in no way capable or willing to force the issue if it comes down to it, which means that we are basically pushing them into the worst case scenario. Meanwhile, we're taking our eye off the Yellow Peril. The shifty French seem to have a better grasp of this than we do, but we can still lol at the pathetic Germans.

[Shindig]

You're saying the man who avoided a covid test 'in case they take my DNA' has a better grasp on this?

[Jimmy Floyd]

What is Russia's case for Ukraine not being able to do what it wants?

[Mellberg]

Russia is such a fucking backwater shithole. Prepare the nukes. It's only MAD if they can get Tsar Bomba II to clear Latvia.

[Lewis]

What is Russia's case for Ukraine not being able to do what it wants?

The one America made during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Not 'fair', but such is life in the sphere of influence.

[Mellberg]

There are similarities, but the main difference is we're no longer a savvy Soviet Navy Officer away from World War III.

[phonics]

The reason for all this is the same reason for everything. I worked for DuPont when Crimea happened. We lost IIRC 2.7 billion from that because of border shite. They don't want to sanction Russia because of money, they don't want Russia to go to war because that would also be money. That's it. The only reason.

[Lewis]

Hang on which course makes the most money?

[Giggles]

When does the nuking start?

[phonics]

Hang on which course makes the most money?

They're already making money hand over fist, they just don't want change. It's the classic gangsters not wanting war between two minor capos because it causes more headaches than cash.

[Lewis]

But all parties are trying to change things.

[phonics]

You assume that NATO, Ukraine, and corporations are linked?

Corporate prefers the status quo is all I said.

[Shindig]

Follow the triangles.

[Lewis]

You assume that NATO, Ukraine, and corporations are linked?

Corporate prefers the status quo is all I said.

I don't, but this guy does:


The reason for all this is the same reason for everything. I worked for DuPont when Crimea happened. We lost IIRC 2.7 billion from that because of border shite. They don't want to sanction Russia because of money, they don't want Russia to go to war because that would also be money. That's it. The only reason.

[phonics]

I'm not sure what your point is. The push back would be nowhere near as hard if it wasn't for Corporate interests just as it wasn't before the Gas pipeline got threatened last time.

[Lewis]

What 'push back' against what? Against Russia? Wouldn't anti-war corporations be better off just appeasing them then? If so, how are they the 'reason for all of this'?

[phonics]

What 'push back' against what? Against Russia? Wouldn't anti-war corporations be better off just appeasing them then? If so, how are they the 'reason for all of this'?

We're literally in appeasement mode right now which is why sanctions haven't been placed and if they are will be placed on individuals not the state. I said the reason for major push back against war which is far more stringent than we saw in Crimea is because they have more to lose. Whats so difficult to understand?

[Lewis]

We're sending Ukraine serious weapons, shit talking Russia, and apparently putting a whopping sanctions package together. It's not a particularly clever set of policies, but it isn't appeasing them. If we were appeasing them we would have guaranteed what they want and their troops would be moving away from the border, but the opposite is happening.

[Spikey M]

Can't we just give the Arabs a couple of fighter jets for a knocked down price on their gas? I'm the wrong side of 40 for a conscription call up for World War 3 right now.

[Spikey M]

Phonics worked for DuPont? Don't ever try to take the moral high ground again lad.

[Don]

Any chance the war will mean a move back to WFH? :drool:

[Spikey M]

WFBombshelter.

[Giggles]

What do DuPont do? My cousin works for them after they bought a crowd called FMC he used to work for. I always thought it was something to do with cement, which I never had down as morally wrong.

[Kikó]

Watch 'Dark Waters'.

[Giggles]

Those conspiracy documentaries aren’t my bag really. They all tend to be very samey.

Edit - I see now it’s an actual film.

[Spikey M]

Those conspiracy documentaries aren’t my bag really. They all tend to be very samey.

It's not a conspiracy. They lost a court case and are paying for medical treatment to this day.

[Giggles]

Yeah I seen it was a real film after (though the name really screams conspiracy doc).

Are there many companies anywhere not polluting anyway? I definitely wouldn’t be making just one the big bad enemy.

[Spikey M]

Watch it

[Giggles]

I fucking ave you.

[Lewis]

There was also John du Pont, the Foxcatcher freak, and he isn't even the worst one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_and_sentencing_of_Robert_H._Richards_IV).

[Mellberg]

Suspended sentence for noncing his own three-year-old. Another one to be sold to the 4chan army. Stop shooting up schools, kids. I have something worthwhile for you.

The judge can join him, the over-priveliged paedo sympathiser.

[phonics]

Phonics worked for DuPont? Don't ever try to take the moral high ground again lad.

I think I've been quite open that I worked for EvilCorp Ltd for some time.

I worked in Corporate Comms when that nonce got in the news. We outsourced all our social media to India for a couple of months so I barely had to do any work :drool:

DuPont runs Delaware, there's a reason it's where you go to hide your shady lawsuits and fake money laundering companies.

[niko_cee]

Joe Biden's Delaware.

[Giggles]

Brexit unsupportive Joe Biden.

[niko_cee]

Not sure Brexit has much to do with Biden's attitude towards the UK.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is my absolute favourite kind of heads-have-gone tweet.

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Fuck, you're right, Armando, I imagine the world's international affairs professionals and the people of that and neighbouring countries had completely forgotten about Taiwan until the executive producer of Time Trumpet did a tweet.

[Lewis]

The top theory of the week has been that Russia has brought this forward to help move the news cycle on from their man Boris Johnson and his cake problems.

[Shindig]

"Lads, we really want to keep that gold medal."

[Lofty]

My home town MP doing a 'Diane Abbot':

https://i.ibb.co/X2Q4r3F/FB-IMG-1645092361929.jpg

[Manc]

Was expecting a blackface effort.

[niko_cee]

This story (https://uk.yahoo.com/news/labour-mp-urges-government-reconsider-200750673.html) covers so many seethe angles it's almost beautiful.

Wanton expenditure to enrage the anti-royalists [although I guess they have a better £12m to moan about at the moment], an inner city [yeah, ok Brent] halfwit MP calling for the money to be better spent on preventing the further spread of covid to piss off the right-minded, the fact they are going to translate it into Irish to piss off Giggles, it's got it all.

[Giggles]

Translating it into Irish is going to piss off the GS’s of the world a lot more.

[Spikey M]

£12 million is basically nothing when it comes to the amount of money we waste. Rather than funding HS2, Furlough and those National ID cards we could have eradicated poverty worldwide / rebuilt the empire. #RuleBritannia

[niko_cee]

39? (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-60451845)

It's not just African footballers and Pakistani cricketers I guess.

[Magic]

Vaccines. :drool:

[niko_cee]

The assiduous omission of any possible cause screams suicide.

[Boydy]

Yeah, I'm fairly certain it was suicide.

[Spikey M]

Considering the last few years, the DUP suicide rate is surprisingly low.

[Giggles]

Interbreeding is also a big thing up there.

[Ben]

MPs will get a £2,212 pay rise on 1 April, seeing an MP's basic salary go up to £84,144 a year.

The 2.7% rise will come in the same week that millions of workers see their wages hit by a National Insurance increase.

:harold:

[Kikó]

Maybe they shouldn't have voted for cunts.

[Ben]

Word.

[Lewis]

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Turns out John Bercow is class.

[niko_cee]

Since when has David Cameron had an HGV licence?

[Ben]

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The crowd were referencing the events of five months ago, which saw Conservative MPs block a bid to outlaw ‘fire and rehire’.

[Ben]

Rishi has cut fuel duty by 5p effective 6pm tonight. I bet my house on fuel prices not being 5p cheaper when I tank in the morning. Just more profit for the boys. Also I hope they don't gradually put this 5p back on because the rules on red are changing massively next month, meaning a lot of businesses now need white, so the duty income will go up massively anyway.

Also income tax going from 20% by 19% by 2024. :facepalm:

NI threshold going up £3k which helps the lower paid. Less facepalm.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rishi has cut fuel duty by 5p effective 6pm tonight. I bet my house on fuel prices not being 5p cheaper when I tank in the morning. Just more profit for the boys. Also I hope they don't gradually put this 5p back on because the rules on red are changing massively next month, meaning a lot of businesses now need white, so the duty income will go up massively anyway.

Also income tax going from 20% by 19% by 2024. :facepalm:

NI threshold going up £3k which helps the lower paid. Less facepalm.
https://news.sky.com/story/asda-to-reduce-fuel-prices-by-6p-per-litre-today-following-cut-in-fuel-duty-12573391

Asda are doing it.

[Ben]

Reducing by 6p shows how much more profit they've been holding onto recently. Oil makes up only 35% of the cost of petrol. :eyemouth:

[Lewis]

It's all fuel duty isn't it? That's how they reduce it, although I'm not sure it's the most effective use of six billion quid if your intention is to help as many people as possible. They would have been better off reducing National Insurance further or servicing the borrowing for a giant handout to landlords and pensioners. Another stamp duty holiday perhaps, or quadrupling the winter fuel allowance.

[Ben]

57% goes to Her Majesty, yeah.

And you're right that they're massively hitting themselves in the pocket but only saving us £2 a pop at the pump. But once again the optics from this will be good, which is all they seem to care about. Brain dead Government.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was going to do a lame gag about how they should cut VAT on stannah stairlifts and walk-in baths, but I see those things are already VAT exempt.

Landline phone installation? Werthers Originals? There can't be much left on the shelf.

[Ben]

I was going to do a lame gag about how they should cut VAT on stannah stairlifts and walk-in baths, but I see those things are already VAT exempt.

Of course they are. :D

[Lewis]

Oh yeah, they will get their triple lock increase. Solar panels being VAT-free might be interesting. I have a top floor flat. Could I get them just for me, or would everyone have the right to cry about me ballin' off 'their' roof?

[Shindig]

Speaking of VAT, remember when it used to be 15%? Still, thanks for the income tax break, Rishi.

[Ben]

The service station I drive past to and from work was 181.9 this morning, and 185.9 on my way home. So even if they knock off the 5p tomorrow, they're still going to make 4p more than they did this morning. Capitalism is a scam.

Having said that, it doesn't really matter what fuel duty is. This whole kerfuffle can be blamed on the Tories stretching back to that shite Cameron coalition. Absolutely no long term economic strategy and campaigning for silly shit like Brexit completely tanked The Queen's Sterling from pretty much 2:1 against the USD to 1.3:1 today. Oil is bought in dollars so that is the problem; it hit $140 in 2008 and consistently $120 in 2011 and we still paid below £1.50.

[Lewis]

You haven't got two dollars for a pound since 2007, and that was hardly a stable exchange rate. We haven't had a pro-growth government since John Major was in office, so, as terrible as the coalition were, the problems facing the country never started with them.

[Boydy]

The automatic petrol station near me was still at 174 for diesel this evening. It was that last week as well. It's higher than the other petrol stations around too for some reason, despite them presumably having less overheads since they don't have any staff or anything.

[Ben]

My point stands that Dave onwards have basically added 25p a litre on fuel due to exchange rates on oil and tertiary costs of production rocketing thanks to destroying our standing globally and selling off every asset they can.

[Boydy]

You haven't got two dollars for a pound since 2007, and that was hardly a stable exchange rate. We haven't had a pro-growth government since John Major was in office, so, as terrible as the coalition were, the problems facing the country never started with them.
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[Lewis]

He made everything worse and should be hanged.

[Boydy]

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:D

Ffs

[Spikey M]

My takeaway of the last few years has been that, ultimately we're a dying empire desperately clinging onto relevance in a world that doesn't really need us. We probably need to get used to things getting worse.

[Boydy]

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Now I'm no fan of Keir Starmer and his New Labour cosplayers but how the fuck is the current government not extremely unpopular?

[Ben]

Recency bias. Boris gets a pass on his two years of corruption and incompetence because there's a war going on and he's perceived as being tough (he isn't) on Russia.

Blows my mind as well but remember all those silly cunts you encounter every day have the same voting power as you and I.

[Luke Emia]

At this point Putin has saved Boris massively he was in a death spiral before the war started but the last four weeks nothing else has been on the news. No one is even asking now if he has been fined over the 'parties' and I get the distinct impression that it will all be swept under the carpet.

I think the problem with Starmer is that he just waits for the Tories to make mistakes give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. There is never anything related to potential policies or what they would do if they were in government. This morning on the radio I think it was David Lammy being interviewed and the interviewer said something along the lines of 'you don't agree with cuts to Universal Credit, you don't agree with increase in the national insurance, you think the government should be doing more with the cost of living.' but there are never any actual even floating of ideas of what they would do to make things better.

All the while Boris knocks 5p off a litre of fuel and plays to the retards who save £2 on a tank of fuel and think that's a good thing. What would be better is saying we perhaps wouldn't do that but we would use that extra money that is being generated to invest in sources of fuel that aren't so reliant on the world economy because everyone would be better off in the long term if we did that. It's not even as if you have to cost it, it's just showing that you are thinking differently to the current shower of shite.

[Lewis]

At its most basic level, the Conservative Party at least pretends to want to lock up criminals and sort immigration out and whatever else Brexit-inclined voters care about (Brexit as well). The Labour Party doesn't.

[Luke Emia]

At its most basic level, the Conservative Party at least pretends to want to lock up criminals and sort immigration out and whatever else Brexit-inclined voters care about (Brexit as well). The Labour Party doesn't.

I'm not some kind of leftist nut but it has been shown that just locking up criminals is not the answer helping them get out of any spiral that they are in is the answer.

As for immigration I never understand why it's so important who gives a shit where people come from as long as they work? I'd much rather have a party in charge who wanted to deal with the actual problems in the country like shit infrastructure, the massive black hole that is the NHS and making it so that people aren't so reliant on benefits to live day to day. I say that as someone who has voted Tory in the past and who will probably vote Tory in the future once my MP isn't Liz Fucking Truss.

[Shindig]

"Nah mate. Then it doesn't feel like BRITAIN ANYMORE." <slams pint glass>

[niko_cee]

Not sure the labour party is ever going to be the solution to 'the massive black hole that is the NHS'.

But then not sure any political entity is, or ever will be now.

As with everything we can just blame it on the 24 hour news cycle/Tony Blair.

[Spikey M]

The country is deeply, deeply fucking stupid and have a memory about 2 weeks long. We will be stuck with this shower of cunts for the foreseeable.

[Shindig]

Every country kind of is. I was chatting to erm ... I think he was an SF Port Authority bloke and he was giving me his hot take on Putin's war.

"He wants THE TECHNOLOGY. Just like Trump was after THE TECHNOLOGY."

So my conclusion is everyone really wants that jetpack.

[Lewis]

I'm not some kind of leftist nut but it has been shown that just locking up criminals is not the answer helping them get out of any spiral that they are in is the answer.

As for immigration I never understand why it's so important who gives a shit where people come from as long as they work? I'd much rather have a party in charge who wanted to deal with the actual problems in the country like shit infrastructure, the massive black hole that is the NHS and making it so that people aren't so reliant on benefits to live day to day. I say that as someone who has voted Tory in the past and who will probably vote Tory in the future once my MP isn't Liz Fucking Truss.

No party wants to deal with the actual things dragging the country down because of cost and NIMBYs, and they're both generally committed to pissing money up the wall on whatever the newspapers are onto that week, so you're left with crime and immigration (and Brexit loose ends like war with Ireland) being the most obvious dividing line between the two.

[Shindig]

And some problems are a bitch to fix, even when you think there's a fix available. Take San Francisco's approach to the homeless shitting in the street. So they put up plenty of public toilets that are free to access. That'll stop them and save them precious water from spraying the sidewalks down.

They still shit in the street. They still have to hose the streets.

[Spoonsky]

Every country kind of is. I was chatting to erm ... I think he was an SF Port Authority bloke and he was giving me his hot take on Putin's war.

"He wants THE TECHNOLOGY. Just like Trump was after THE TECHNOLOGY."

So my conclusion is everyone really wants that jetpack.

Not sure the US is a great example in proving that every country is stupid, tbf. That one has been known for a long time.

[Shindig]

Look at TTH, though. Queensland has his bogans, John Arne has his Asian authoritarian supervillains, Jimmy has the Irish tractor mob and the South Korean weirdos, etc. Globally, everywhere is thick. It's not a nationality thing, it's a mentality.

[Boydy]

Anyone actually seen any filling stations that have reduced their prices (other than supermarkets as I wouldn't put their shite in my car)?

I'm back home today and thought it might be cheaper to fill up here than in Belfast but everywhere seems to be as expensive if not more so.

[Ben]

Asda did by 6p. Shell have by 3p but they put it up 5p yesterday morning in anticipation so really they didn't. BP just played the complete ballbags and left it as is. No other experience thus far.

Once again, bullshit.

[Giggles]

They’re all around 10-15 cent lower here that the height of it.

[Lofty]

Isn't the supermarket fuel inferiority theory proven false?

[Ben]

Yeah. It's all the same. Although your "premiums" at BP etc. do have extra additives to cleanse your fuel pump and other things. Worth it once in a while for a diesel for example.

[Boydy]

My dad's worked in the motor trade for years and says it's always causing problems and told me to stay away from it. :sorry:

[Ben]

It’s a myth. It’s not like supermarkets are capable of producing their own fuel, it comes from the same place. People are wary because it’s cheaper but that’s just because supermarkets are able to use fuel as a loss leader to get you in their shop.

[Lofty]

The same way Tesco were giving it large about not increasing their mobile airtime plan prices in line with RPI like the other providers.

[Boydy]

It’s a myth. It’s not like supermarkets are capable of producing their own fuel, it comes from the same place. People are wary because it’s cheaper but that’s just because supermarkets are able to use fuel as a loss leader to get you in their shop.
You've just said BP etc have extra additives so it's clearly not the same end product that goes in your car.

[Lofty]

The supermarkets aren't shitting in their supply though.

[Elbastido]

You've just said BP etc have extra additives so it's clearly not the same end product that goes in your car.

He said the premium fuels have extra additives, not the regular fuels. The regular fuel is the same whether it's at a supermarket or a normal filling station.

[Kikó]

Supermarkets shit in their petrol according to one of my sources.

[Ben]

He said the premium fuels have extra additives, not the regular fuels. The regular fuel is the same whether it's at a supermarket or a normal filling station.

Yeah this, cheers.

[7om]

Down to 1.59 at Exeter Saisnbury’s now. Can’t wait to fill my car with poo fuel.

[Waffdon]

1507678813345431556

Jimmy will love that

[Shindig]

Must've been a real struggle to find a 4ft wife.

[Lofty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-60925885

Doubt they get reelected as a trans tory.

[Lewis]

He sounds like a mental case.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60941902

:lol:

[Ben]

Fuck off Rishi. Your family deals with Russians so they’re absolutely fair game.

[Boydy]

1513603624164859918

Oh dear.

[Lewis]

I came here to post that. I'm not sure whether the loyalty or the argument is funnier.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The mindset these people have is extraordinary. You can well see how all the perves got away with it for decades.

[Ben]

I was thinking it was ex-cricketer, ex-Pakistani PM Imran Khan for a minute.

[Ben]

Priti Patel tries to blame Labour for fuel shortages. (https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/priti-patel-fuel-shortages-labour-b2055390.html)

Well, the police already have powers to remove protesters so this is pathetic.

[Spikey M]

I was thinking it was ex-cricketer, ex-Pakistani PM Imran Khan for a minute.

"They all look the same to me" :nono:

[Luke Emia]

So Boris broke the law then. So did the midget.

[Yevrah]

Have we ever had a PM who has broken the law while in office?

[Disco]

I would imagine most of them.

[Spikey M]

Tony Blair for one.

[Boydy]

Tony Blair for one.
Was gonna say this. :D

[Yevrah]

I would imagine most of them.

And were caught while still in office? Obviously they all speed, hence the M40 having no cameras on it.

[Luke Emia]

I think he might just be able to see it out because it's kind of gone away from the front pages. Depends how much the press want to go after it I suppose.

But anyway technically he's lied to parliament. Which we all knew anyway so he should resign. But, he won't so the Tories will have to get rid of him and I'm not sure they will.

[Spikey M]

It's over. Nobody cares about that any more. Ukraine to the rescue.

[Ben]

People caring or not shouldn't matter. Breaking the law should be an automatic ousting, even if the guy was 100% in the opinion polls.

[Ian]

I see Sunak had categorically denied being at any of them as well.

So that'll be another case where lying to the Commons will be deemed more acceptable than calling somebody a liar in the commons, I assume?

[Yevrah]

People caring or not shouldn't matter. Breaking the law should be an automatic ousting, even if the guy was 100% in the opinion polls.

Completely agree. There are standards and said standards should be met. Provably breaking the law and being fined for it while in office should be an instant dismissal.

[Spikey M]

People caring or not shouldn't matter. Breaking the law should be an automatic ousting, even if the guy was 100% in the opinion polls.

Shouldn't but will. He will bluster his way through some questions at PMQ, send some poor lamb to talk to the BBC and it will all be forgotten by this time next week. Democracy and our entire political system are bullshit.

[Manc]

Democracy. :harold:

[niko_cee]

The idea of sending asylum seekers to Rwanda for processing is surely a wind-up?

[Lewis]

The logistics of it sound difficult, especially to Rwanda, but offshoring this stuff is a tremendous idea if we insist on preserving the legal order that makes catapulting people straight out increasingly impossible.

[Ben]

Nothing about this is a tremendous idea. Using Albania was bad enough, but fucking Rwanda? We'd be sending most refugees further than where they've travelled from.

It's absolutely incredulous how racist the non-white daughter-of-immigrants Home Secretary is.

[Lofty]

I thought it was April Fools Day, Brass Eye stuff this.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The soft left view at the moment seems to be that we should welcome all immigrants at all times. Good luck running public services on that basis.

[Ben]

Not sending them to Rwanda =/= opening the floodgates.

[Ian]

I bet you didn't want Priti drowning them with wave machines either Ben. No pleasing some people. :nono:

[Shindig]

Man, that'd be a good plan if we get some Olympic surfers out of it.

[Luke Emia]

£2 million per person they were saying on the radio last night. I hope to god that isn’t correct because if it is that is pure madness.

[Kikó]

Welcoming immigrants is completely different to processing asylum seekers. Something like 8 out of 10 claims are lawful asylum claims so we're talking about a minority. As ever, the government are more interested in marginalising the most desperate and making a packet for crime by removing the ability to get her in a safe and legal way.

[Queenslander]

£2 million per person they were saying on the radio last night. I hope to god that isn’t correct because if it is that is pure madness.

It costs us $4.3 million per brown fella on Nauru.


These contracts are handed out by Peter Dutton to his mates.

[niko_cee]

I never really get those stats. Is it total cost set against those actually allowed in [ie very few], or is it the actual cost of processing ever individual?

[Queenslander]

I never really get those stats. Is it total cost set against those actually allowed in [ie very few], or is it the actual cost of processing ever individual?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/07/cost-of-australia-holding-each-refugee-on-nauru-balloons-to-43m-a-year

[Lofty]

If this means Arsenal can gouge enough to buy a top striker out of their next sleeve sponsorship renewal I'm all for it. Kagame could even put that in the contract :drool:

[Luke Emia]

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/nov/07/cost-of-australia-holding-each-refugee-on-nauru-balloons-to-43m-a-year

So looking at that you can't imagine Rwanda will be doing it any cheaper and that would tend to back up the costs that are being banded around.

Makes you wonder how many people are going to be sent there hopefully its 175 a week and we can work out what happened to the £350 million.

[Queenslander]

So looking at that you can't imagine Rwanda will be doing it any cheaper and that would tend to back up the costs that are being banded around.

Makes you wonder how many people are going to be sent there hopefully its 175 a week and we can work out what happened to the £350 million.

Works that way down here.

Wait until your Government does this https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-06/biloela-family-speaks-on-fourth-anniversary-of-start-of-ordeal/100885888 over a clerical error.

[Lewis]

If cost was the point you wouldn't have any border controls, which is ultimately what a lot of politicians want.

[Queenslander]

We also left 124 Middle Eastern blokes on PNG to fend for themselves.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-06/australia-stop-processing-asylum-seekers-in-png-manus/100517926

[Luke Emia]

If cost was the point you wouldn't have any border controls, which is ultimately what a lot of politicians want.

When there is fuck all in the pot at the minute with massive amounts of infrastructure problems in the country as well I'd say spunking money away on vanity projects like this because a proportion of people in the country don't like others with brown skin is a bit fucking mental.

[Lewis]

We can deduct it from international development spending when their positive contribution to Rwanda becomes clear. 4D chess is back baby.

[Waffdon]

1516542722034872324

Do people actually sound like that or is he at it :sick:

[Ben]

He's got to be a parody, I'm convinced.

[Ben]

Macron back for another term. 28% of voters abstained, which is mental even for France. But that's what happens when insecure clown is your best choice.

[niko_cee]

The French system is so daft, but it'll be fun in a few years when it [finally] throws up a Le Pen [III?] v the communists presidential run-off and everyone shits the bed. They'll probably reform it at that point.

[Waffdon]

1520045072938672129

:lol:

What a party

[Yevrah]

It's a classic case of what happens when the leader of any organisation is a weak and shit one.

[randomlegend]

Is it? So if you had a shit boss you'd start wanking in the office?

[Kikó]

Yes.

[Ian]

So that's why she hates you.

[Spikey M]

:D

[Kikó]

Cole and Yorke are back.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Life imitating art again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKH9ECC_Qa4

[Boydy]

So that's why she hates you.
:D

Nice.

[Ian]

I see the porn MP (more like Member of Porniment amirite) opened it "in error."

Love the wife (who, to be fair, I sympathise with) saying "It takes two to tango" because "There must be women posing for all this."

The fuck are you talking about? :D

[Spikey M]

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article25653491.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/2_2085dd6447c7670291acd2c506e5a9d9541f206e.jpg

[Kikó]

Maybe if women didn't do the porn then her husband wouldn't watch it? They're really reckless in what they do, how could he not watch it?

[Ian]

Maybe I should just start saying "Well, it takes to tango" any time I'm caught doing something wrong or have need to defend a fucking cretin.

[Yevrah]

I'm not familiar with much of this man's work, but judging a book by its cover looking at porn while working appears to be seriously on brand for him.

[Alex]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686


Neil Parish has told the BBC he is resigning as an MP after admitting he watched pornography twice in the House of Commons.

Mr Parish - the MP for Tiverton and Honiton in Devon - said it had been a "moment of madness" and "I was not proud of what I was doing".

He said the first time was accidental after looking at tractors, but the second time was deliberate.

:D

[Ian]

Jimmy Floyd as our subject matter expect on tractors please confirm how easy it is or is not to accidentally look at some slag taking it up the shiter when you meant to be looking at agricultural machinery.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've seen porn with naked ladies draped over a John Deere so I believe him.

[KIR]

The little creep peering over his shoulder at his phone and grassing him up is worse than him.

[Kikó]

Hi Harold.

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah the guy's faultless. First the women forced him into watching grot and then he even had to face some repercussions. Whatever next?

[Spikey M]

It's Angela Rayners fault for wearing that skirt.

[Lofty]

Ange needs to get her baps out in the commons in the name of feminism or some shit.

[Ian]

It's Angela Rayners fault for wearing that skirt.

It's a wonder old Boris has been able to do his job at all what with all these lefty feminists just insisting on having vaginas. I mean sure they haven't got them out but you know they're there and that's bad enough really.

[Spikey M]

Angela Rayner, Diane Abbot, John Deere heavy farm equipment. There's only so much stimulation a red blue blooded man can take.

He should be Knighted for keeping his trousers on if anything.

[Ian]

Porn MP has resigned. Sticking to his claim saying the first time was an accident when looking at tractors. :D Says the second time was intentional but a "moment of madness."

Just one big moment of madness, though split over several shorter sub-moments.

[niko_cee]

If he resigns does this mean we won't get a REPORT on it?

I'm intrigued as to both the tractor porn link, and the, for want of a better term, level of porn we're talking here.

Imagine not even sitting in the back row of seats.

[Lewis]

Cole and Yorke are back.

:lol:

[Spikey M]

If he resigns does this mean we won't get a REPORT on it?

I'm intrigued as to both the tractor porn link, and the, for want of a better term, level of porn we're talking here.

Imagine not even sitting in the back row of seats.

It will either be the most vanilla stuff possible, or the most deviant stuff possible. There is no in-between with these people.

[Ian]

Search for: "missionary with the lights dimmed"

[Lofty]

12 immigrants gangbanging an Angela Rayner lookalike, obviously.

[niko_cee]

Link?

[Spikey M]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10771233/Tory-inquiry-finds-source-Basic-Instinct-story-Westminster-Angela-Rayner.html?ito=native_share_article-top


According to one of the MPs, she told them that during PMQs she liked ‘to do my Sharon Stone trick. I cross and uncross my legs and give him a flash of my ginger g******’

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Shindig]

Phwoar.

[randomlegend]

Was wondering what the starred out word was - gash was the only thing coming to mind but if they were being accurate with the number of stars then it didn't fit.

Turns out it was "growler", which is infinitely better :D

[Spikey M]

I'm giving it a 1% chance of being true, but I really, REALLY, hope it is. It's been a strong couple of years for funny political moments, but the last month might have been the peak.

[Spikey M]

This Windfall Tax everyone seems to want is a nonsense, isn't it? Surely the companies would just increase their prices to cover whatever they get taxed? Am I missing something?

[Ben]

Well BP are currently charging us to cover them having to ditch Rosneft. Petrol at their pumps is at least 5p overpriced at the moment, which in turn is allowing the supermarkets to run a higher profit margin than they usually would.

[Spikey M]

It's a racket. All big business is. There is nothing that can be done to them that wouldn't end up being paid for by us Plebs.

[Boydy]

Nationalisation.

[Ben]

:drool:

[Spikey M]

I don't think more Civil Servants is the answer. And which of our current lot would you want in charge of our oil supply? I suppose Rees-Mogg is the obvious choice, considering he already looks like a Victorian Tycoon.

[Ben]

One of the big positives of nationalisation is that it won't be the Tories doing it, so Rees-Mogg can just cry in the opposition benches.

[Boydy]

It won't be the current Labour lot either, the useless twats.

[Spikey M]

One of the big positives of nationalisation is that it won't be the Tories doing it, so Rees-Mogg can just cry in the opposition benches.

That would involve Labour being elected, which isn't going to happen while they're being useless / The SNP exists.