UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

[Spikey M]

Most Remainers and Leavers are pretty tied to their decision and resistant to anything that the other side offer in an attempt to change their mind. I've seen little from our MP's that Mark's them as much different.

[Yevrah]

As a collective, they're not interested in leaving at all. How is there any debate over that by now?

[phonics]

The majority of them are but that majority is split into several groups whereas ‘nah’ is obviously one combined block.

If you just had the headbangers on the Tory side and a couple of Labour (who let’s note have several leave mps up north and a pro-Brexit/anti-eu Leader)swap over to Mays deal, it would have passed.

[Spikey M]

And if your aunt had bollocks...

[phonics]

Her genitalia has nothing to do with the phrase 'the majority doesn't want to leave' being incorrect.

[Spikey M]

Then why do a majority keep rejecting the opportunity?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The majority of MPs didn't want to leave, but a large number are now pretending they are in order to save face/their jobs.

[phonics]

Then why do a majority keep rejecting the opportunity?

Because 'Leave' is not a binary option where as 'Remain' is. It's not that complicated to get your head around.

[Shindig]

The ballot made it very binary.

[Lewis]

They are as [non-]binary as each other. What is the European Union going to look like in ten years? The entire status quo argument is wank.

[Spikey M]

Because 'Leave' is not a binary option where as 'Remain' is. It's not that complicated to get your head around.

There was a vote on every single possible option after the 3rd rejection of the deal and none of them were accepted. Fuck being non-binary if you want to make something happen you are willing to be flexible.

How many bollocks does your aunt have at this point?

[mikem]

Wait? You all were not simply trying to prove Arrow’s Impossibility Theorem?

[phonics]

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lol

[Jimmy Floyd]

Change UK - The Independent Group have my vote sewn up. It'll be an exhilarating feeling.

[phonics]

Their branding looks so cheap.

[Spikey M]

PM Borris or PM Jezza. Christ.

[niko_cee]

PM Rory Stewart even more terrifying.

[Ian]

PM Bamster.

[Dave.]

PM Bamster.

:D

Fantastic.

[Lewis]

I've never been a Boris Johnson fan, but they probably need him at the minute as a sort of kill or cure candidate. Everyone else is either hopeless or would at the very least need some time to build their image up. 'Boris' is ready to roll.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It would be entertaining, if nothing else.

[Shindig]

Aye, and I think he probably sees it as his last chance to lead. Kinda like how May stepped forward.

[mugbull]

Of course Boris Johnson would become PM :D

I really cant wait for a return of establishment politics

[Yevrah]

Lewis, George Galloway is on This Week in his Super villain costume again.

[Lewis]

That's just his normal clobber, and now I'm having to listen to this SNP loser. Nehru jacket or go home.

[Lewis]

Well done Queenslander mate. Everyone SEETHING at you lot.

[Queenslander]

We have retreated south of the Brisbane river. Everything north is barren land.

[Shindig]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/16077/production/_107013209_054037564-1.jpg

I just imagine the fella / sheila on the left breathing heavily as he waits for a hug.

[Spikey M]

Glass houses

[niko_cee]

I like how Warringah is now a "wealthy Sydney seat". Yeah, it's not fucking Cabramatta but that's a bit of a transition in the last 15 to 20 years. How many independents got in and would they have swung it for Labor (sic) had they not made the div choice?

lol at Shorten.

[Magic]

I like how Warringah is now a "wealthy Sydney seat". Yeah, it's not fucking Cabramatta but that's a bit of a transition in the last 15 to 20 years. How many independents got in and would they have swung it for Labor (sic) had they not made the div choice?

lol at Shorten.

"I've been to Australia once, look at me"

[niko_cee]

I lived in that seat man, although they never let me vote for big Tone.

[Magic]

I lived in that seat man, although they never let me vote for big Tone.

Tell us more about your gap year that nobody cares about. Work on the set of Neighbours as a lighting assistant? Good for you.

[niko_cee]

Almost, Home and Away is the one the film round that way.

[Lewis]

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:harold:

[Queenslander]

Poor and racist voting against their best interests like we have seen in America. Bob Browns invasion caravan really backfired it seems.

Shame our environment is cooked.

Edit: The finger wagging from the powder puffs in Melbourne reminds of Hilary and her plebs finger wagging at the rust belt states.

[Spikey M]

I miss the days when the Brits and the Aussies could get together and lol at the Americans.

[Queenslander]

I miss the days when the Brits and the Aussies could get together and lol at the Americans.

New Zealand is a good neighbour to have atm.

[mikem]

The left may win an election somewhere if we could ever stop insisting that “people vote against their self interest.” No, people have been telling us what their interest is for decades with their votes. We’ve just decided to not care.

[niko_cee]

I rather assumed that comment was tongue in cheek.

[Lewis]

I just watched Rory Stewart claim that the future of politics is '[being] radical from the centre ground', and I would like to remind everyone that I said he was a complete whopper a decade ago.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd take that over Andy Burnham's 'aspirational socialism'.

[Queenslander]

The left may win an election somewhere if we could ever stop insisting that “people vote against their self interest.” No, people have been telling us what their interest is for decades with their votes. We’ve just decided to not care.


I rather assumed that comment was tongue in cheek.

It is a nice line to say to so called progressives who are quick dehumanise anyone who doesnt fall in line with their rigid world view.

The Melbourne lot need to pull their heads in if they want progressives and the Labor mob in Queensland to have a chance at keeping the LNP out of Govenerment up here.


Edit: Not only have they failed with their caravan they have also come up here and broken into slaughter houses and have occupied peoples private fucking property to protest.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I won't pretend to know anything about Aus politics, but them beating the exit poll is tremendous banter.

[Queenslander]

I won't pretend to know anything about Aus politics, but them beating the exit poll is tremendous banter.

Shorten lost most preferred PM polls. It still is a massive shock though.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm sure there are reasons for beating the polls in general, but the exit poll, if done properly, should never be far off.

[phonics]

The Milkshake thing and Prison Paul’s fear that, if he were to ever leave his house, he would be similarly milkshaked is very, very funny.

These lot always go from “we’ll fight them on the beaches” to “no, not the milk!” When they actually have to face confrontation.

[Disco]

It's almost like there are consequences for being a cunt.

[Spikey M]

The right are bigger snowflakes than the left these days. The OUTRAGE :drool:

[phonics]

Quite. They always cite freedom of speech when they actually mean freedom from consequence.

[Lewis]

When someone egged Jeremy Corbyn the other month the same lolol milkshake people were calling it domestic terrorism.

[phonics]

I didn’t even know he got egged so I’m gonna feel free to lol at prison paul.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Can only imagine how it would be getting commented on if it was done to someone like Sturgeon.

[Kikó]

Didn't Jez get punched with an egg rather than an egg thrown at him?

[Lewis]

He got it splatted on his head, which is an accepted form of egging somebody. He got egged.

[Offshore Toon]

Farage will be loving it. It wouldn't surprise me if it was staged.

[Shindig]

I'm just catching up with this. I'd praise the man but I've just seen him. It's the Street Fighter tee that makes it.

[Spikey M]

That passed me by as well (Corbyn getting egged), but would have been just as funny.

Only John Prescott has taken it like a man so far. :cool:

[niko_cee]

Punched with an egg!

:D

[Shindig]

Was the last EU election Farage was in the one with the plane crash?

[phonics]

That fucking nutter calling David Davies a Remoaner has made my week.

[Spikey M]

How can you be that BREXIT MATE and not know who David Davies is?

[Jimmy Floyd]

David Davies (Monmouth) is different to David Davis (Haltemprice & Howden). I think the former is a leaver but I can't think of anything else about him.

[Spikey M]

Ah. Well they shouldn't both be allowed to be MP's with names that similar. Twats.

[Lewis]

The actual best politician interacts with public skit of the week was Jess Phillips (who appeared to be feeling the strain of having not been on the telly for a few days) trying to tell one of those Muslim school protesters that he was giving the 'community' a bad name.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Liddo about to be interim PM, what a time to be alive.

[Lewis]

I don't see how there can be any sort of caretaker manager when they are all so wrapped up with her. I also agree with that bloke who reckons letting party members choose a Prime Minister isn't on, so they need to tell her to wait around for two weeks and stitch something up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm quite up for a gen-e-ral elekshun tbh. If it needs communism to break open the current shite then so be it.

[niko_cee]

Pretty sure that's the only way she's going to go, if it's triggered by her own party voting against her in a confidence vote. Even then she'd probably try to lol her way through a campaign as the unremovable leader. No matter what, she's taking the ship down with her. All souls lost.

[Shindig]

Ah. Well they shouldn't both be allowed to be MP's with names that similar. Twats.

Pitt the ELDER.

[phonics]

Nigel Farage can't get off his 'Brexit Bus' because it's surrounded with people holding milkshakes :D

[Spikey M]

:lol:

[niko_cee]

Andrea Leadsom has resigned.

It's not quite Geoffrey Howe, but I guess that's the world we now live in.

[Lewis]

She's just refusing to see the people who want to tell her to resign. Why didn't Margaret Thatcher think of that?

[Shindig]

"No one has wanted you to succeed more than I have."

You stood against her and moaned about her lack of children. :D

[phonics]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7M1crmXYAEURkz.jpg

The best part of this era is seeing all the people who pretended they were smart, logical people twisting themselves in knots to defend their political position.

MOCK ASSASSINATIONS.

[niko_cee]

Thank christ he isn't tasked with any sort of security detailing.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/9/9a/103_09.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20111123024504

[Lewis]

Sam Harris putting the intellectual into the INTELLECTUAL DARK WEB. I always figured the brief prominence of the professional atheist 'Four Horseman' crowd was a reaction to the [perceived] strength of the Jesus lobby during the George W. years, but it was just the precursor to that wasn't it? You could just see Christopher Hitchens being part of it, getting smashed on a Joe Rogan podcast and having a load of ironic prejudice go down like a lead balloon.

[Spikey M]

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All completely true. It's still funny though.

[Mike]

Just voted. As always I only voted because my polling station is in the pub and I get a pint after it :D

[Lewis]

I got my vote in for Nigel.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2ynrxpz.jpg

'Chin-ny! Chin-ny! Chin-ny!'

[Spikey M]

I didn't vote because I'm not a fan of wasting my time.

Ok, I am, but still. Fuck that shit.

[Disco]

I prefer to waste my time in the comfort of my own home.

[Shindig]

I was already passing on the way back from work. Can Theresa trigger a no deal brexit on her own?

[niko_cee]

Not really, unless she bombs Paris or something, I guess.

[Shindig]

War in Europe? That's crazy enough to work.

[Baz]

I didn’t realise Tommy Robinson is just a bloke on his own. Was weird just seeing his name at the bottom of the ballot paper.

I voted greens anyway, cos my wife asked me to. I don’t even know what I was voting for.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I bloody nearly voted Tory but then saw Daniel Hannan's name as the number one candidate and thought he could do with some more free time.

Ended up spoiling.

[Kikó]

Lib Dems here. Was a list of about 30.

[Lewis]

I bloody nearly voted Tory but then saw Daniel Hannan's name as the number one candidate and thought he could do with some more free time.

Ended up spoiling.

Yeah with a load of remain hashtags.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Change UK:
The Independent Group
Liberal Democrats

There, it's a haiku.

[Lewis]

I noticed that UKIP had a little 'Get Brexit done' (or something) slogan under their name on the ballot paper. Nobody else did, which seems like an oversight on their behalf.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I actually spoiled it by writing 'Change UK: The Independent Group' across a couple of the boxes, so hopefully they will spend hours campaigning for that to be counted as a vote for them, in which case they will deserve it.

[phonics]

I actually spoiled it by writing 'Change UK: The Independent Group' across a couple of the boxes, so hopefully they will spend hours campaigning for that to be counted as a vote for them, in which case they will deserve it.

Good to know I'm trendsetting after drawing knobs on my ballot during the Ed Miliband era.

[Yevrah]

A woman on Question Time claiming 1 in 3 kids in the UK live in poverty. :D

[Yevrah]

And why does Jo Cox need to be brought into the milkshake argument?

We shouldn't be fucking throwing milkshakes at people, that's the beginning and end of it.

[Boydy]

A woman on Question Time claiming 1 in 3 kids in the UK live in poverty. :D
https://www.childrenssociety.org.uk/what-we-do/our-work/ending-child-poverty/what-is-child-poverty

[Boydy]

And why does Jo Cox need to be brought into the milkshake argument?

We shouldn't be fucking throwing milkshakes at people, that's the beginning and end of it.

Because everyone's acting like a milkshake is a fucking terrorist attack by the left when an MP was literally murdered by a fascist during the EU referendum campaign.

[Yevrah]

https://www.childrenssociety.org.uk/what-we-do/our-work/ending-child-poverty/what-is-child-poverty


A child is said to be living in poverty when they are living in a family with an income below 60% of the UK's average after adjusting for family size.

Is a ridiculous measure.

EDIT: We (TTH) have had this argument before, so I know what the stats say, the definition is just wrong.

[Yevrah]

Because everyone's acting like a milkshake is a fucking terrorist attack by the left when an MP was literally murdered by a fascist during the EU referendum campaign.

Sorry, I should have added the context, which was people saying that throwing milkshakes could escalate to that.

[mugbull]

Gini is how you should be measuring this stuff anyway, 'poverty' is something you can parameterize however you want

[Lewis]

It's designed to be unsolvable (like the gender pay gap toss). If I inherited a billion quid from some long-lost relative in America the minute it hit my account thousands of kids would tumble into poverty.

[Spikey M]

Christ, what are you spending it on?

[Ian]

Turfing families out of their homes by the sounds of it.

[Giggles]

Just popped up on my phone that she's resigned. Was that not announced about a fortnight ago?

[Jimmy Floyd]

There was a great stat a while back about how every time Tony Blair makes a speech, 30 more kids drop below the poverty line.

[Yeldoow]

Can anyone explain what the point of her announcing that she's going to resign in two weeks time?

Why not just resign today? Either way she stays as PM until there is a new Tory leader.

What is she supposedly going to accomplish in the next two weeks as leader of the conservatives that means she needs to stay on for a fortnight before they can crack with the leadership contest?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Probably to buy time for someone to car bomb Boris Johnson.

[Disco]

I was hoping for a Mark Henry style retirement speech where she hauls off halfway through and powerbombs Bojo through the despatch box.

[Kikó]

It's so we have a pm when the great quiff arrives.

[Spikey M]

PM Borris meeting Tronald would deserve all the #WhitePeople tags Twiiter can throw at it.

Christ.

Come back Blair, you can bomb whoever you want.

[Giggles]

If Boris Johnson can end up as leader of your country then there's probably something to be said for having just let the Germans have it. There are not all that many thicket cunts walking this planet.

[Yeldoow]

It's so we have a pm when the great quiff arrives.

But even if she resigned today she'd still be PM for several weeks.

[Yevrah]

Jesus, even her leaving speech made her sound like a total tool.

[Shindig]

Can anyone explain what the point of her announcing that she's going to resign in two weeks time?

Why not just resign today? Either way she stays as PM until there is a new Tory leader.

What is she supposedly going to accomplish in the next two weeks as leader of the conservatives that means she needs to stay on for a fortnight before they can crack with the leadership contest?

The vote on her last deal is the 3rd.

[niko_cee]

It's not happening, surely.

[Yevrah]

What, she's not leaving?

[Spikey M]

The vote.

[Shindig]

It'll happen, it'll get voted down and then we're no further forward. Or it gets voted through and it was all a long ploy just to move May out the door. 3 fucking years, lads. We've got more of this shit to come.

[Yevrah]

Oh, well, in that case, of course not.

I genuinely don't know where we go from here. Without a general election and a complete annihilation of Tories and Labour I still can't see Brexit getting anywhere close to getting through.

[Lewis]

Boris 'Boris' Johnson could home in on NO DEAL and dare the rest of them to stop it.

[Yevrah]

It'll happen, it'll get voted down and then we're no further forward. Or it gets voted through and it was all a long ploy just to move May out the door. 3 fucking years, lads. We've got more of this shit to come.

May may have gone, but her 'deal' is still dogshit that nobody/not enough people liked or would vote for.

And on that note, a resignation effective in 3 weeks is ridiculous.

[Yevrah]

Boris 'Boris' Johnson could home in on NO DEAL and dare the rest of them to stop it.

I'm convinced no deal is actually the only way to leave, but he won't get that through. Hell, I'm not even convinced he'll be the next PM - he doesn't have the stomach to sort this shit out.

[Shindig]

How quick was your last house move?

[Yevrah]

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-prime-minister

He's evens, which is surely arse covering from the bookies. If they genuinely believed he was going to be he'd be a lot shorter than that.

At this point I'd fancy a few hundred on 'nobody' were it an option. Seemingly it isn't though.

[Lewis]

I'm convinced no deal is actually the only way to leave, but he won't get that through. Hell, I'm not even convinced he'll be the next PM - he doesn't have the stomach to sort this shit out.

If he doesn't ask Europe for another six months cocking about time it just happens at the end of October, so then it's on his party to crash the plane and/or destroy what remains of the system stopping it.

[Yevrah]

How quick was your last house move?

:D

Took longer than Dave's, I'll admit.

[Yevrah]

If he doesn't ask Europe for another six months cocking about time it just happens at the end of October, so then it's on his party to crash the plane and/or destroy what remains of the system stopping it.

Isn't no deal less popular in the commons than May's deal was? He won't have the balls/be able to ride that through.

[Lewis]

Is it less popular than an election and having Nigel Farage run a train through their majority?

[Shindig]

It's not balls you need. It's numbers. We simply don't have enough politicians that are anti-Europe enough to push for a no deal. Politically, we love Europe's money. Even Farage wants a deal.

[Yevrah]

That's my point. Without the numbers (support) he'd have to go it alone, which would take balls he doesn't have.

I don't even think he'd want the gig of PM at this point. The man's a coward.

[niko_cee]

It's now or never for him, is he going to be our Heseltine?

[Yevrah]

He could have had it before May and he bottled it then, why would this be any different? The situation's actually worse now.

[Shindig]

On her speech, did she really leave that abruptly after finishing her speech?

[Giggles]

On her speech, did she really leave that abruptly after finishing her speech?

That's the only bit I seen and it wasn't far off mid sentence.

[Shindig]

Aye, her voice broke and she went. I wondered if there was some BBC editing going on but I guess that's how she went. I can't say her heart wasn't in it.

[7om]

i was hoping for a mark henry style retirement speech where she hauls off halfway through and powerbombs bojo through the despatch box.

i got a lot left in the tank!

[Shindig]

Run for your lives. Michael Gove going for it.

[Ian]

I'm ruling out there being anybody going for it who despises humanity less than May, is there at least anybody even less competent so it'll be a "laugh"?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Gove is the comedy option, and also the best option. Can't imagine the faithful will vote for anyone who isn't Boris, although I'd have Leadsom as a dark horse.

[Spikey M]

Anyone but Hunt. Anyone.

[Magic]

Gove is the comedy option, and also the best option. Can't imagine the faithful will vote for anyone who isn't Boris, although I'd have Leadsom as a dark horse.

I'd like Leadsom just for the cunt factor. She'd definitely end Tory rule for at least a decade.

[Lewis]

She is alright really. She just gets a shit time of it for being an actual social conservative and having a bit of a grandma vibe about her.

[Magic]

She is alright really. She just gets a shit time of it for being an actual social conservative and having a bit of a grandma vibe about her.

She's a complete cunt. So yes an actual conservative.

[Jimmy Floyd]

lol at these results, and at Lady Thornberry doing a massive heel turn on telly. Seumas must be lobbing carrots at the TV.

[Yevrah]

I don't understand why people on here think Farage is toxic. He nails it time and time again.

I also don't understand how Thornberry is in still in politics.

[Giggles]

The fucking Greens have made big leaps in the local elections here, which can only mean more taxes for all. Great.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't understand why people on here think Farage is toxic. He nails it time and time again.

I also don't understand how Thornberry is in still in politics.

He nails it with his own people, but everybody else hates him. He is also a bit of a Euro election specialist.

[Yevrah]

He's got a lot of his own people and are there any politicians left who are liked by anyone other than their own people?

Doesn't sound like strong enough grounds for me. He gets results, like no one has (relatively) since Blair.

[Shindig]

It's telling that UKIPs losses are moving with Nigel's new lot.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Brexit gains are by more than the combined Tory/UKIP losses in every area, which will hopefully be suitably chilling for Labour.

[Lewis]

They need to be on 35% really, otherwise you can just call it the UKIP vote and crack on. You have to wonder who is still voting UKIP don't you.

[Spikey M]

Didn't the 'Fuck the EU' parties perform well even pre-referendum? Add in the anti-establishment feeling amongst the public and this was always going to be the outcome. I voted remain and, if I had bothered to vote this time, it would have been for anybody but Labour or the Tories, and I'm certainly not feeling particularly EU friendly.

[Shindig]

North East have their MEP's picked. Two Brexits and a Labour.

[Spikey M]

We have 3 Brexit, 2 Lib Dems, 1 Green and 1 Conservative.

Even split, really.

[Lewis]

It's still fifty/fifty isn't it? The Brexit Party, plus UKIP, plus half of the Conservative/Labour voters who want to leave but would vote for their colours if a paedophile was standing. And then vice versa with the Liberal Democrats and the Greens and people who want to remain. lol pastings for the main parties and the Nigel comeback aside we're not learning anything.

[Shindig]

Nah. Even with the Brexit lot going to Brussels, I can't see them exerting the right pressure to impact a Brexit deal.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You're right. The only things that will change it are: 1) Scotland voting itself and its self-pitying populace out of the country; or 2) some kind of external stimulus, like the Euro collapsing, or Putin invading Denmark, or another recession.

[Lewis]

Labour on ten per cent in Bolsover lmao.

[Lewis]

Why do they read them out and then do it backwards in the Welsh count?

[Spikey M]

Jimmy one of about 7 people voting for Change UK. Great career move that, guys.

[Lewis]

Martin Daubney is a geezer.

[Spikey M]

"Magid Magid"

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think almost everyone I know voted Lib Dem, except for those who voted Brexit. The Lib Dem message about Stopping Brexit was the best bit of campaigning they have done for years as they clearly understand that left/right is no longer relevant and now politics is very simply about Brexit (and its associated issues).

Labour and Tories are both anachronisms headed for the scrapheap unless they embrace the same facts pretty much immediately, and pick a side.

[Lewis]

Team Floyd coming behind the Yorkshire Party. :harold:

[Spikey M]

Will Jezza still be pushing for a General Election in the morning?

[Yevrah]

Hotting up nicely this.

Should get a meltdown around 2 I'd fancy.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Team Floyd coming behind the Yorkshire Party. :harold:

It's truly a wondrous moment to be alive. They've got their own spot on the election night graphics and everything. Gavin Esler!

[Lewis]

Why do the English Democrats bother? The only thing I associate them with is Garry Bushell, and it turns out he left them in 2011 (and has a blog (http://www.garry-bushell.co.uk/ontheblog.htm#.)).

[Yevrah]

Gary Bushell. :D

Hello the 90s.

[Lewis]

I saw him described as the thick man's Richard Littlejohn once and I don't think I ever saw him on the telly afterwards.

[phonics]

Wait... Ann Widdecombe is a politician again and she's running under the Brexit party?

[Yevrah]

He was probably the biggest victim of the internet. In a time where papers still needed tv critics the work was plentiful, after that, not so much.

[Lewis]

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lol

[Pepe]

:lol:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We have 3 Brexit, 2 Lib Dems, 1 Green and 1 Conservative.

Even split, really.

East side represent.

[Yevrah]

Widdecombe. :D

[Spikey M]

Labour really have been spectacularly thick to get themselves into this mess. Everyone (that bothers to vote) has an opinion on Brexit, and yet for the past 2 years they have tried to avoid having any official or clear position on it at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I imagine they will now embrace Remain and the evil tory Tories will embrace Brexit under a new leader, which will lead to an absolute mess of an electoral map as the old people continue to vote for who they've always voted for, and the others all switch.

[Shindig]

That share of the vote, lads. Second referendum ahoy.

[Spikey M]

Opposing The Government is the obvious option for, you know, The Opposition. Especially when you factor in Remainers being mostly Lefties. Sure they'd get the 'YOU'RE BETRAYING 15 MILLION PEOPLE' shit chucked at them, but 14 million of those were never voting Labour in the first place.

That the LibDems have managed to overtake them, after Nick fucking Clegg, is pretty funny.

[Raoul Duke]

If the Lib Dems had any kind of leader/charisma they'd be in with a chance of eating Labour

[Jimmy Floyd]

Do not underestimate Sir Edmure Davey.

[Shindig]

Finding out these exist was the highlight of the night for me.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5FV7_mWwAE2Urb.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4wSqXTWkAIVExg.jpg

[Lewis]

Did you see his interview with Victoria Derbyshire? The lad is a pleb, but fucking hell it's maddening.

'You don't have to like the joke, but...'
'Let me read you what people who aren't you have threatened female MPs with.'
'.....'

[Spikey M]

Finding out these exist was the highlight of the night for me.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5FV7_mWwAE2Urb.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4wSqXTWkAIVExg.jpg

What the...

[Shindig]

There's nothing worse than a person too thick to realise it. What's even better is Paul Joseph Watson joining UKIP and then voting for the Brexit party. :D

[phonics]

Change UK :D

[Yevrah]

Is Carl Benjamin's target market conspiracy theorist paedophiles?

Seems a bit niche.

[Lewis]

In what might not be the best endorsement of the platform, he was pretty uncontroversial as far as YouTube 'personalities' went before all of this. There is clearly a bit of idiocy in there amongst however many billions of hours he has recorded of his own voice, but not much that in its wider context hasn't come across TTH over the years, and it's all been a bit hysterical.

'In what context is rape funny?'
*any Jeremy Corbyn quote chosen at random*
'WHAT HE MEANT WAS...'

[phonics]

Lol fuck off at saying ‘Sargon of Akkad’ was quite reasonable. He was always a fucking nutter that hid behind the Sam harris logic and reason shite while just ‘trying to listen’ to outright Nazis.

He was an even worse form of Harold except he made the videos instead of posting them.

He’s literally banned from 90% of social media outlets for a reason. He’s a shitty little racist that’s spent the last 10 years being angry at women and brown people playing video games.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUP3zJcRwG0

It's the smugness that's the worst bit about him. No self-awareness, no hubris, humility or common sense. He probably still thought last night was amazing.

[Lewis]

From what I remember, his Patreon ban was pretty lol, and hasn't he only recently been banned from other things? The Harold comparison is pretty good insofar he is boring and thinks of himself as being a bit EDGY, but that's basically it. The idea that he is some major hate figure or 'fucking nutter' is the hysterical part.

[phonics]

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I love this ongoing strategy to ignore that the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act exists. Like the Conservatives are just going to say, "Ah go on then. Let's do one for the fun of it."

I guess it ties in with the rest of the plan to just assume it's still 1989.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There was a guy walking round Hitchin town wearing a jumper that said End Brexit (I think) with a giant EU flag in his hands.

[phonics]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7lfRJGW0AE3XGX.png

On the above discussion it's worth noting that the only people with boxes the size of Akkads are straight up white supremacists.

[Lewis]

Where as open white supremacists like Richard Spencer and Mark Collett have the same size boxes as Joe Rogan and that Google memo sperg. Top science.

[phonics]

Because neither of them regularly do online stuff. They do their organising offline/on Gab/Discord so it would be a bit weird for them to turn up there. There’s several nazis and white supremacists not on there. These are the ones that interact with each other. Am I talking to a bit of a fan trying to defend himself? because that’s how it comes across.

[Shindig]

Of course Andy Warki's the biggest. :D Fucking drama queen.

[mugbull]

I can see Lewis as a big Jordan Peterson fanboy

[Lewis]

Because neither of them regularly do online stuff. They do their organising offline/on Gab/Discord so it would be a bit weird for them to turn up there. There’s several nazis and white supremacists not on there. These are the ones that interact with each other. Am I talking to a bit of a fan trying to defend himself? because that’s how it comes across.

Yes, the box size reflects his relative popularity and the format of his content, so why post it with reference to 'straight up white supremacists' when it has so many views and formats on it? It's a ridiculous image.

I've called him a pleb/idiot/boring in each post, which I think proves my hysteria point if just not losing my shit over YouTube Harold counts as an endorsement.

[Henry]

If the Tory leadership contenders proceed along the path of a hard Brexit that they all seemingly have a hard-on for, and that brings down the government and forces a general election - in a situation where they are working from a support base of 9% then all of this might have been worth it. :drool:

[Henry]

Also, Laugh My Fucking Ass Off at Alistair Campbell, the piece of shit.

[Yevrah]

He's absolutely right though, Labour have been a complete fence-sitting shambles throughout all of this.

[Spikey M]

Also, Laugh My Fucking Ass Off at Alistair Campbell, the piece of shit.

How dare he use his personal vote inline with his views and be honest about it.

[Henry]

How dare he use his personal vote inline with his views and be honest about it.

He knew the rules. It's unreasonable to expect to be a member of one political party if you're going to advocate voting for a another one. Plus he's a massive cunt.

[Lewis]

He probably doesn't even care about Europe. He just sees it as a good way to make the Wankerati forget that he's a shithouse war criminal who ought to be shunned and/or hanged.

[Yevrah]

Can't recall your view on Iraq Lewis, out of interest, what is it?

[Lewis]

I didn't really have one in actual 2003, but whenever it was I started being arsed I was against it.

[Spikey M]

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[Lewis]

lol at Labour's Peterborough by-election candidate turning out to be yet another anti-Semitic crank. Paxton's Law remains undefeated.

[Shindig]

Should Jeremy Hunt just change his name now? It keeps happening.

[Lewis]

lol at these Team Floyd break-up stories. Should never have let Anna Soubry in lads.

[Lewis]

Hold the phone. She's the leader now. The leavers (lol) are going back being an informal 'independent grouping of MPs'. That was fun.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

6 of the 11 leaving, lol.

[Ian]

The Peterborough by-election looks to have been a laugh.

Has a UKIP dude with an eyepatch:
https://images-i.jpimedia.uk/imagefetch/c_fill,f_auto,q_auto:eco,w_1200/https://inews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/ukip1.jpg

The Monster Raving Loony Party
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And the Brexit guy took his defeat with all the good grace you'd expect and definitely not like a big manchild.

https://news.images.itv.com/image/file/1884277/stream_2.43367018.jpg

[Lewis]

It sounds like postal votes won it. Can't think why they would break for a 'critic of Israel'.

[Shindig]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48564722

An unexpected headline.

[Spikey M]

There's not an MP on the planet whose nose isn't fucked.

[Shindig]

Aye but I thought Gove had so little going for him drugs were out of his reach.

[mo]

Perhaps it was during his time on his late night topical talk show. Would explain a lot.

[niko_cee]

Surely all (well, most) the old etonian wankers must have taken industrial amounts of various substances over the years. I know Gove isn't one, but this story feels very much of the last millennium. Who cares?

[Spikey M]

It is odd. After Marijuana, Cocaine is probably the most readily available illegal substance about, and it ain't the Universal Credit mob driving the market.

[Lewis]

The average party member is something like a thousand years old, so they all probably think that they can knock each other with competing DRUG-TAKING SCUM stories.

[Yevrah]

I wish one of them would come out and say something along the lines of "Yes, I did take horse, I don't really regret it other than it being news now, but thankfully I had a good enough path in life for it not to become the issue it does for some".

They'd get brownie points with the wider public for that approach.

[niko_cee]

They'd certainly gain the votes of Brass Eye fans.

Probably not their main constituency though.

[Yevrah]

But do their main constituency really swallow that they're deeply, deeply sorry and they deeply, deeply regret it?

[niko_cee]

If it's old people I doubt they give a fuck as long as you don't threaten to take their homes off them to pay for social care or fuck with pensioner benefits. All about the bottom line with the old folk.

Anyone under 50 probably thinks little to nothing of it. Assuming there are Tory members under 50.

[phonics]

Hypocrisy politics is dead. No-one cares about anything but their side of the culture war winning.

[Boydy]

Remember when Diane Abbott having a tinny of M&S mojito on the overground was a big deal?

[Yevrah]

Remember when Diane Abbott having a tinny of M&S mojito on the overground was a big deal?

I remember it vaguely, along with Boris drinking on the underground no? Neither were hardly big deals though and nor should these things be.

[Boydy]

I don't remember anything about Boris drinking on the underground. The Diane Abbott thing was only a few months ago and was made a big deal of by the usual suspects in the press.

Taking drugs shouldn't be a big deal, really, no. But I'm fine with it being made one if it's about the same people who will implement policies that criminalise users who aren't as wealthy and privileged as them.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm starting to think that if the Tories elect Boris, he will be the final ever Conservative PM (at least in the party's current form). There are so many in the country who simply will not vote for a lazy cunt like him.

[Lewis]

This 'Rory Stewart' character Ed Miliband has been doing makes me lol. You can still tell it's him, obviously, but it's brought a bit of relief to proceedings.

[Spikey M]

I'm starting to think that if the Tories elect Boris, he will be the final ever Conservative PM (at least in the party's current form). There are so many in the country who simply will not vote for a lazy cunt like him.

He is bizarrely popular with the non-political amongst us. I think he'd get a decent amount of non-voters turning out for him.

[Shindig]

This 'Rory Stewart' character Ed Miliband has been doing makes me lol. You can still tell it's him, obviously, but it's brought a bit of relief to proceedings.

I thought it was Eddie Redmayne.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It won't surprise you to learn I am fully on the Rory Stewart train. Full steam ahead to some acclaimed BBC4 documentary series.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like Rory/Eddie/Ed.

[Lewis]

He's a pinko and a complete gimp.

[phonics]

It's quite funny that Jim has ended up becoming New Labour personified.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm absolutely miles away from New Labour.

My platform would be leave things alone and stop cunts from being cunts.

[Yevrah]

+1 for Rory.

Whether or not he’d actually be any good is a different matter, but he talks some sense.

[phonics]

I'm absolutely miles away from New Labour.

My platform would be leave things alone and stop cunts from being cunts.

We all become what we hate, embrace it.

[Spikey M]

Phonics outing himself as a Nazi there.

[phonics]

*ralph wiggum voice*

I ate the red pill!

[Jimmy Floyd]

Boris in the final two so you have to assume will win. He'll get into a Sepp Blatter mess where it becomes all about him.

Hard to say who his opponent will be but I hope it isn't Jeremy Hunt.

[Spikey M]

Anyone but Jeremy Hunt.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a top three from the first round of votes.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have yet to work out why Boris is suddenly this popular among MPs. It can't be any rational reason, so I presume they are all petrified of losing their seats and see his clownish approach as the only hope.

[Ian]

Is it anything more complex than that there is a certainly type of mongo who thinks he's funny rather than sinister so they're just hoping it'll get them a few votes short term, maybe eat a Brexit bullet for the party and then half of them will be gone anyway so sod the long term, right?