UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

[Jimmy Floyd]

Why is Corbz touring safe seats in the north east today?

:sherlock:

[Spoonsky]

What effect do you all reckon these attacks will ultimately have on the result of election?

[Lewis]

Under normal circumstances you could make something of government cuts to the police (not that there is actually anything in it), but having your top team consist of life-long terrorist sympathisers more than likely cancels that potential advantage out.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The attacks will have no effect on the result. The only way they would is if one of the leaders had an absolute meltdown like Aznar in 2004, which wouldn't happen here because the message control is so tight.

[Magic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt7lWRtfve8&feature=youtu.be

:D

[Kikó]

Diane Abbott on sky last night was her usual terrible best. I'm not sure why she couldn't just say 1) I haven't read the Harris report or 2) say she can't remember the specifics (they probably are summarised loads of documents daily). Instead she just flounders and ends up looking like the idiot she is.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Exactly, if she just says 'I haven't read it' then the worst that could happen is Dermot says 'why hasn't the Shadow Home Secretary read a report!!!?!!' and no one gives a shit.

[AyDee]

Need Labour to get backed in on Betfair. Because I assume, if the general consensus on here is that the Conservatives will achieve a greater majority, then there's probably not too much value in Tories o370.5 seats @ 2.18. Although perhaps it should be under evens so there is a bit of value.

Hoppefully it will drift a bit more.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I would put the handicap at about 370-373 (though the only money I have on is a small amount on bigger Tory wins).

The best value I can see out there is Tory majority (full stop) at 1.23. In my view that is a certainty. I just don't have enough cash to really make the bet worthwhile.

The various 'Lib Dems to do terribly' bets are quite attractive too.

[Magic]

What even is Tim Farron and how on earth did he become leader of the Lib Dems?

[AyDee]

I would put the handicap at about 370-373 (though the only money I have on is a small amount on bigger Tory wins).

The best value I can see out there is Tory majority (full stop) at 1.23. In my view that is a certainty. I just don't have enough cash to really make the bet worthwhile.

The various 'Lib Dems to do terribly' bets are quite attractive too.

Yeah, so little to no value then. I suppose these events are best to bet on 'in-play' once you can start to have a clearer picture on vote patterns and can extrapolate for the rest of the country. I doubt the market would be anywhere near as incompetent in reacting at they were when Trump was elected, sadly.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sunderland South should be a very useful seat to declare first, if indeed it does. Labour will hold it, but UKIP were second last time and if there's a big transfer of the vote from UKIP to Tory then it'll be time to invest in Theresa May's strong and stable leadership in the national interest.

[Magic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IsbT--C3Io

OK so I thought the song was a pisstake but it's his genuine election song, apparently.

[-james-]

The Tory seats line was 385.5 or higher with most books two weeks so if you subscribe to the theory that the labour surge is being exaggerated then there's most likely value in it now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't necessarily think it's being exaggerated but I do think it isn't going to work well for them in terms of seats. I'm going to cover 100-124 probably later today or tomorrow unless the market smells the coffee. Quite relaxed about a bit of red on 75-99.

[Lofty]

I reckon Barrow will go Tory, like Copeland before it. A lot of industrial backwaters are actually isolated and racist, so Jez's love in won't play aswell (even though the Tories hate the very idiots voting for them there).

[GS]

https://order-order.com/2017/06/06/corbyn-addressed-hundreds-of-al-muhajiroun-members-at-rally/

Peacemaker.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Right, I've dabbled.

http://i.imgur.com/VUe3bgs.jpg

Slight bottle job with a small saver on 75-99 but I'm quite happy with that going into Thursday.

[Lewis]

What does that mean?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The green ones are scenarios in which I win money, and the red ones are scenarios in which I lose money.

[Lewis]

If you started thinking of losses as 'x amount of hours working for Koreans', would you be less likely to gamble?

[Jimmy Floyd]

That's just under two days, after tax. Quite expendable.

[Shindig]

I've gone off a daft Labour victory now because Diane Abbott would wind up as his deputy PM.

[GS]

She has to be the least qualified person ever put forward for major office.

https://order-order.com/2017/06/06/diane-abbott-apparently-duped-alleged-email-prankster/

I mean, for fuck sake.

[GS]

Diane Abbott on sky last night was her usual terrible best. I'm not sure why she couldn't just say 1) I haven't read the Harris report or 2) say she can't remember the specifics (they probably are summarised loads of documents daily). Instead she just flounders and ends up looking like the idiot she is.

I've just had a chance to see this. Good fucking grief.

[Yevrah]

Is it this one?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ2l8Cs-Lc4

I'm only a couple of minutes in but was already struck by this.

"Have you spoken to any Extremist Muslims"

"I have a Muslim community in Hackney who're all horrified by these attacks"

"But there's an ideology out there, so isn't it worth talking to some to find out more about it, as Corbyn has done"

"I have a Muslim community in Hackney who're all horrified by these attacks"

Nope, not having that.

Now I've never even been to Hackney, but as sure as I have a hole in my arse there will be some Muslims in Hackney who weren't remotely horrified by the attacks.

[Yevrah]

Fucking hell.

What the fuck is she doing? Does she even want to win?

[Reg]

That is the most bizarre complaint you could possibly conjure up after watching that, Yev. She's an awful speaker.

[Yevrah]

That is the most bizarre complaint you could possibly conjure up after watching that, Yev. She's an awful speaker.

I was commenting on it as I was watching it and that was the first thing that stuck out. Having now seen it all things obviously got far worse and she is absolutely dreadful, but I'm still not having that line being peddled. It's manifestly not true.

[Dark Soldier]

Cannot wait for another Tory term fucking buzzing gonna be a great laugh lol

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Right, I've dabbled.

http://i.imgur.com/VUe3bgs.jpg

Slight bottle job with a small saver on 75-99 but I'm quite happy with that going into Thursday.

What site are you using?

[Lewis]

Paul Mason, whose elevation to the role of public intellectual sums up the decline of the left (and I suppose the entire political process) better than most things, reckons that the Conservative Party are making a point of lolling at Diane Abbott to woo racists.

[Pepe]

If THE MEDIA is anything to go by, racists are the largest voter demographic everywhere, so that is a smart move.

[Boydy]

Paul Mason, whose elevation to the role of public intellectual sums up the decline of the left (and I suppose the entire political process) better than most things, reckons that the Conservative Party are making a point of lolling at Diane Abbott to woo racists.

They absolutely are.

[Boydy]

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:D

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[niko_cee]

What's happened to John McDonnell in this campaign? And why haven't they stuck Abbott wherever they've hidden him? Slough apparently.

[Lewis]

They absolutely are.

So what she isn't completely useless?

[Boydy]

She's not great but she gets so much more stick for any mistakes she makes than any white male Tory does.

[Dark Soldier]

So what she isn't completely useless?

All politicians are fucking useless, tbh. We've just slipped into the Yank bubble of bullshit before fucking facts. I'm on some work course at the moment and holy shit its insane how a fuckload of the populace are incredibly thick. Serious retard level.

[Pepe]

That Theresa May interview someone posted not that long ago wasn't much better.

[Lewis]

She's not great but she gets so much more stick for any mistakes she makes than any white male Tory does.

I can't think of a white male Conservative who not only fucks up every interview they do, but does so because of their misplaced arrogance. Boris Johnson is the nearest, and he gets plenty of shit. It just gets balanced out by the people who respect him as a chancer, which is a pool of goodwill she has never created for herself.

Anyway, the amount of grief Theresa May has been getting over the past few weeks, with her clear discomfort/uselessness being lolled at in ways that when it was Ed Miliband (or Gordon Brown) everybody was bealing over, more than matches people lolling at Abbott making a twat of herself.

[GS]

Abbott is also effectively being put forward as the next Home Secretary - it carries a much higher degree of scrutiny than if she was just some backbench MP lolling her way through every interview.

That she fucks up every single public appearance she has doesn't mean that broadcasters should stop interviewing her or pundits highlighting her errors. The question is why she's the shadow home secretary to begin with, and "everyone else refused to serve Jez" wouldn't be a justification for going 'easy' on her.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They're highlighting Diane Abbott because she'll be showing up in focus groups as off the scale negative reaction from voters (in the same way they highlight Corbyn being a retard, and Labour accuse everyone they don't like of being in bed with Farage).

Paul Mason claiming racism only serves to rally the existing Twitter support, so I'm not sure what his game is.

[GS]

Paul Mason was presumably a repressed communist for the duration of his spell with the mainstream media, and now all the Stalinist nonsense is erupting in one big go. A bit like someone shaking a bottle of coke and ripping the lid off rather than turning it slowly to release it bit by bit.

What confuses me is why he's given the time of day by broadcasters - it's not as if he understands nuance.

On Abbott - her fuck up on police numbers was showing heavily in focus groups, and it clearly had huge cut through to your average voter. You have to start from a base that everything the Tories do under Crosby is underpinned by cold logic and strategy. Nothing they do hasn't been thoroughly tested beforehand.

[GS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBqwiktUAAAbFSR.jpg

They've gone for it.

[Magic]

She's said she'll modify human rights laws too. Well won the racist vote.

Also Abbott might be terrible at interviews but is she a good politician?

[GS]

She's not, no. As below:

http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Screen-Shot-2016-07-02-at-10.23.18.png

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's such a weak story.

[Yevrah]

What did Corbyn supposedly say at that rally?

[Shindig]

She's said she'll modify human rights laws too. Well won the racist vote.

Also Abbott might be terrible at interviews but is she a good politician?

I'd suggest not. I mean, it's clouded by the fact she's previously been in a relationship with Wor Jez. That'll tarnish any role she's handed. Forever.

[Yevrah]

It shows what a mad world we live in where Diane Abbott can't be accused of being useless without accusations of racism being thrown around - She's crap and weak so she's bound to be called out as such.

In fact I can't remember a time when front line politicians were this shit. It's an atrocious state of affairs, across all parties.

[GS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBq420mWAAApIs-.jpg

Lol.

[niko_cee]

The thing about Abbott (who I have little knowledge of beyond This Week) is that she just comes across in a terribly condescending way, without any discernible reason as to why. Emily Thornberry is similar (although I presume she has an education of some sort), so perhaps there's a running theme.

The wife's postal vote never arrived (or more likely has been cast several times for Our Emily) which is quite amusing although it's a waste of time constituency and she'd have voted for her anyway.

[GS]

What did Corbyn supposedly say at that rally?

Hard-left Labour leader Mr Corbyn issued a fiery anti-Israel diatribe at the pro-Palestine rally.

He said: “When the US and Britain give lectures to Iraq and others about UN resolutions, Israel is in breach of more than all the other states put together.”

Police said at least 8,000 people attended the protest on May 18, 2002. An account in the Weekly Worker read: “Al-Muhajiroun chanted, ‘Skud, Skud Israel’ and ‘Gas, gas Tel Aviv’, along with their support for Bin Laden.

“Two would-be suicide posers were dressed in combat fatigues with a ‘bomb’ strapped to their waists.

This section accounted for no more than 200-300, but they made a noise far out of proportion to their numbers.”

The flag of Lebanese militants Hezbollah — who Mr Corbyn once welcomed to Parliament as “friends” — was also waved.

Founded by Omar Bakri Muhammad in the 1980s and later led by Anjem Choudary, al-Muhajiroun was outlawed in 2005 for glorifying terrorism.


You get the impression he's just a bit thick, really.

[Henry]

So some dodgy people showed up at a rally where Corbyn said nothing unreasonable. Big deal.

Decent people don't read The Sun anyway.

[Shindig]

In fact I can't remember a time when front line politicians were this shit. It's an atrocious state of affairs, across all parties.

This is what happens when a generation of budding politicians bin it off for a consultancy role in some Arab state.

[niko_cee]

Were but that the threshold for voting.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, those Sun and Mail front pages really aren't on.

[Lewis]

The Mail one is.

[GS]

They're both fair game. None of this is a secret, it's just a case of whether you're prepared to vote for them despite it. The IRA alone justifies the Mail one.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Sun one is a crap story, the Mail one is more of a non-specific character assassination.

[GS]

It's only a character assassination in the sense that the three of them loaded all six barrels of the gun, gave it to the newspapers and dared them to pull the trigger. None of the "apologists for terror" line that has been pushed for the past number of weeks / months / years is remotely unfair, despite attempts to rewrite history.

[Boydy]

The thing about Abbott (who I have little knowledge of beyond This Week) is that she just comes across in a terribly condescending way, without any discernible reason as to why. Emily Thornberry is similar (although I presume she has an education of some sort), so perhaps there's a running theme.

The wife's postal vote never arrived (or more likely has been cast several times for Our Emily) which is quite amusing although it's a waste of time constituency and she'd have voted for her anyway.

Are you implying there that Thornberry is educated but Abbott isn't?

[Mellberg]

Those front pages are a disgrace.

[ItalAussie]

They could digitally edit Corbyn into a graphic image of him sodomising a cabbage, and GS would probably find a way to call it "fair game" :D

[Kikó]

The thing about Abbott (who I have little knowledge of beyond This Week) is that she just comes across in a terribly condescending way, without any discernible reason as to why. Emily Thornberry is similar (although I presume she has an education of some sort), so perhaps there's a running theme.

The wife's postal vote never arrived (or more likely has been cast several times for Our Emily) which is quite amusing although it's a waste of time constituency and she'd have voted for her anyway.

The lib Dems might be coming up the rail here.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Those front pages are a disgrace.

I don't think the Mail one is. Bit close to the bone for the more ardent JC cultists, perhaps.

[niko_cee]

Are you implying there that Thornberry is educated but Abbott isn't?

I'm saying I know Thornberry was a lawyer of some sort (possible source of acute smugness) whereas I have no idea why Abbott is so patronising.

[Henry]

They could digitally edit Corbyn into a graphic image of him sodomising a cabbage, and GS would probably find a way to call it "fair game" :D

He'll also simultaneously maintain that the right wing media have no responsibility for attitudes towards Labour and Corbyn.

[Magic]

Watch us lot vote SNP again. :face:

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've got SNP as broadly -10% of the vote from last time out. More would be quality scenes.

Robertson's seat is by no means safe and I'm not even certain Alex Salmond's is 100% nailed down.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Curious to see how many seats they'll lose. Wishart, Nicolson and Robertson getting the boot would be wonderful and pretty realistic. Salmond will be highly unlikely, unfortunately.

[phonics]

Abbotts been replaced due to 'ill health' by someone else I haven't heard of called Lyn Brown.

[Kikó]

This could win the election.

[Mellberg]

Brilliant news.

[Mellberg]

I don't think the Mail one is. Bit close to the bone for the more ardent JC cultists, perhaps.

The Sun is on it's content alone, but they both are combined as it's yet another blatant shameless attack simply designed to suit vested interests. Free press, my arse.

[Henry]

Abbotts been replaced due to 'ill health' by someone else I haven't heard of called Lyn Brown.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's anxiety or depression or something like that, specifically brought on by not being able to handle the campaign and subsequent coverage thereof.

[Mellberg]

If she is actually ill, I'd wager that's exactly what it is.

[GS]

They could digitally edit Corbyn into a graphic image of him sodomising a cabbage, and GS would probably find a way to call it "fair game" :D

The Mail is entirely fair game based on what they actually said and think. Again, their statements (actual words, not inferences by people who don't like them) on the IRA mean they can't complain.

I would also say that many people may be less tolerant of their cuntery if they'd grown up with the IRA bombing campaign.


He'll also simultaneously maintain that the right wing media have no responsibility for attitudes towards Labour and Corbyn.

What, like when the right wing media broadly supported New Labour? Your apparent belief that what Jez said and thought prior to 2015 has no relevance is absurd.



The Sun is on it's content alone, but they both are combined as it's yet another blatant shameless attack simply designed to suit vested interests. Free press, my arse.

By citing things they've actually said and things they've actually done over many years. Shameless.

[phonics]

That Mail article goes on for 13 (thirteen!) pages by the way.

[Henry]

What, like when the right wing media broadly supported New Labour?

Exactly like that.

[phonics]

Exactly like that.

GS is unable to comprehend politics when you don't think of it like supporting a football team.

[John]

Henry would have been loving it at the time if the papers were full of anti-Tory sentiment. Use the phrase 'Tory scum' in his presence and you'll make a friend for life.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Sun is on it's content alone, but they both are combined as it's yet another blatant shameless attack simply designed to suit vested interests. Free press, my arse.

Both sides attack the other through the press. Having a long history of being pally with various dodgy people is a very fair attack line on a lineup of people who want to be PM, Chancellor and Home Secretary. These aren't the people their supporters want them to be.

Free press is literally what that is.

It's also funny (as I think Danny Finkelstein pointed out the other day) when JC supporters cite people sharing text and videos of him speaking and doing things as a smear, or indeed a 'blatant shameless attack'.

[GS]

GS is unable to comprehend politics when you don't think of it like supporting a football team.

No, I think the press picking a side is fair game. You don't have to buy the newspaper if you don't like the editorial line.

[Jimmy Floyd]

For political balance, there's a video of Andrew 'Thrasher' Mitchell doing the rounds not knowing what the minimum wage is. He must be up there with the biggest bellends in parliament.

[Henry]

Must we go through yet again the distorting effect that concentrated corporate ownership has on the "free press"? It's all very well saying that people don't have to buy it, but the business model (based on advertising, not sales) is set up so that a paper that isn't peddling a pro-corporate line (to one extent or another) cannot survive.

Fortunately, there is at least some sign of people getting wise to this. It is astonishing that Corbyn's Labour is where they are given the vitriol that they are attracting from the establishment. They're terrified.

[phonics]

Whenever a name comes up here that I don't recognise I immediately do a Google Image search to see if that jogs the memory. Most of the time it doesn't but 95% of the time my reaction is 'What a smug cunt'

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02329/mitchell_2329848b.jpg

What a smug cunt.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Must we go through yet again the distorting effect that concentrated corporate ownership has on the "free press"? It's all very well saying that people don't have to buy it, but the business model (based on advertising, not sales) is set up so that a paper that isn't peddling a pro-corporate line (to one extent or another) cannot survive.

The mistake you're making is thinking that this stuff has any effect at all. It has none, much like most of the noise that has been discussed in this thread. It's a convenient excuse for when lefties lose (again) to blame the Great Satan of the press. It also betrays the fact that you don't think voters are capable of thinking for themselves.

Murdoch backs winners, not the other way round.

[Kikó]

If you think the constant messages of Murdoch and Dacre has no effect then you give the populace more credit than it deserves.

That's why we have such an issue with issues that are minimal like benefit fraud and uncontrolled migration.

[phonics]

I do love the idea that 'Newspapers have no influence' if they had no influence, I doubt billionaires would be so willing to lose money hand over fist running them.

It's the same as Facebooks 'We have no influence' when their entire business model is based on the very idea that it does have influence.

[Henry]

The mistake you're making is thinking that this stuff has any effect at all. It has none, much like most of the noise that has been discussed in this thread. It's a convenient excuse for when lefties lose (again) to blame the Great Satan of the press. It also betrays the fact that you don't think voters are capable of thinking for themselves.

"Voters" are a diverse bunch. There is an effect on at least some of them. Do you think that people form their political views (however undeveloped those may be) ex nihilo? How do you think they even know who Teresa May and Jeremy Corbyn are in the first place?


Murdoch backs winners, not the other way round.

All other things being equal (where you have two Tory parties, hi Tony!) that may be the case. But it's obviously not the only consideration.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you think the constant messages of Murdoch and Dacre has no effect then you give the populace more credit than it deserves.

That's why we have such an issue with issues that are minimal like benefit fraud and uncontrolled migration.

You clearly give them no credit at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

"Voters" are a diverse bunch. There is an effect on at least some of them. Do you think that people form their political views (however undeveloped those may be) ex nihilo? How do you think they even know who Teresa May and Jeremy Corbyn are in the first place?

There are plenty of other outlets (not least the Mirror and Guardian, and pretty much all social media) which put across the opposite viewpoint.

[Kikó]

You clearly give them no credit at all.

Definitely. I only need to listen to my mum and step dad to know the influence of the papers they read.

[phonics]

When was the last political assassination (prior to Jo Cox) in the UK? My Dad (hates Jezza, used to live in his borough back in the 70s or 80s) said that if he wins there's going to be a Stalinesque purge where they actually murder each other. Sounds brilliant.

[Shindig]

Abbott stepping down due to to mental health issue.

Back onboard.

Ian Gow, 1990. Done in by the Provisional IRA, phonics. Take the Irish out of the equation and you're left with Spencer Perceaval.

[GS]

Yes, the IRA killed four MPs in different attacks and nearly took out the entire British cabinet in the Brighton bombing.

[phonics]

Boring. Even Japan has better assassinations than us and they only murder about 3 people a decade.

[phonics]

I'm going to make it canon that the bloke who died wanking himself off with the orange in his mouth was set-up by MI5. Much better.

[Henry]

There are plenty of other outlets (not least the Mirror and Guardian, and pretty much all social media) which put across the opposite viewpoint.

Right, so maybe you can show the the equivalent front pages from the Mirror and Guardian today?

[Mellberg]

Think the Guardian is running with "May - spineless coward who looks like the ghost of a badger's arse".

Mirror has gone with "May the Jihadi supplying Saudis with weapons whilst making police cuts".

[phonics]

Right, so maybe you can show the the equivalent front pages from the Mirror and Guardian today?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBrEtWAXgAA_8iC.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBqwWuUXoAAZULN.jpg

[Jimmy Floyd]

That's the joy of a free press.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Con maj persists in being 1.23 on Betfair. Not a bad 24 hour RoI if you have 20 grand lying around.

[Henry]

That's the joy of a free press.

Not really quite as hysterical though, are they?

[GS]

Legitimate social care reform packages aren't quite as odious as supporting the IRA, to be fair.

[phonics]

Yeah they're much more balanced with other labour politicians.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/30/article-2439593-1869B7C000000578-761_638x423.jpg

[Lewis]

I bet they wished they had saved that one for now.

[Magic]

Wow I've just seen a raft of SNP supporters saying they're going to be voting Labour to ensure the Tories don't get in again.

The end of the NATs? :drool:

[John]

One of the most rabid nationalists I know posted that she was thinking about voting Labour because their manifesto was 'the most socialist in [her] lifetime'. She was absolutely ripped to pieces by all her super nationalist friends. They still take any criticism of the SNP, even if it's only implied criticism, as a personal attack on them and their entire identity. It remains a cult, albeit more like Jonestown when the drinks were being poured than when they were franchising all over the place.

[Pepe]

The press has no influence. :D

Also, seems like your press is even more disgraceful than the American one, and that is saying something.

[phonics]

The press has no influence. :D

Also, seems like your press is even more disgraceful than the American one, and that is saying something.

Our papers are worse, our TV is better.

[Pepe]

Our papers are worse, our TV is better.

Sounds about right.

[Pepe]

What are some good, independent UK journals?

[Magic]

What are some good, independent UK journals?

The Independent.

[phonics]

Peter Oborne's probably the only 'independent' one I can think of.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Wow I've just seen a raft of SNP supporters saying they're going to be voting Labour to ensure the Tories don't get in again.

The end of the NATs? :drool:

I don't think that logic works in any Scottish seat, so lol at them.

[Lewis]

He's gone a bit off the Islamic deep end over the past couple of years.

[Magic]

I don't think that logic works in any Scottish seat, so lol at them.

I'd laugh if it resulted in a few sneaky Tory seats.

[Pepe]

The Independent.

Owned by a Russian oligarch. :D

[phonics]

Also no longer a newspaper.

[Pepe]

Online only is ok.

[Magic]

Spikey #that'sthejoke img plz.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Also, Abbott isn't ill, she's been spiked by Seumas Milne (too late though).

[John]

our TV is better.

On the whole, yes, but I'm not sure even the Americans have anyone as openly and defiantly hateful as Kay Burley regularly doing their news.

[phonics]

On the whole, yes, but I'm not sure even the Americans have anyone as openly and defiantly hateful as Kay Burley regularly doing their news.

http://media.salon.com/2015/10/hannity-1015.jpg

[Jimmy Floyd]

The thing nobody picks the Americans up on enough, particularly TV Americans, is how fucking stupid their hair is. I mean look at that.

[Magic]

http://media.salon.com/2015/10/hannity-1015.jpg

He's a cunt to us, but to them he's just a NEWSCASTER.

[Lewis]

Owned by a Russian oligarch. :D

In his defence, he only bought it (and the Evening Standard) to get invited to parties.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Hallam_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elec tions_in_the_2010s

I think Cleggers losing his seat is very much ON, but at the same time I'm not sure if I want it to happen, as he'll then start a sparkling punditry and possibly TV presenting career.

[GS]

You'd expect it would go as Corbyn is basically the receptacle for the seething student protest vote.

It would be hilarious as his "extreme Brexit" bollocks would just be dismissed with "but you couldn't even persuade your own constituents, Nick, mate".

Robertson is the one I want to see lose his seat. Salmond won't, unfortunately.

[Lewis]

In less enlightened times he would have been nailed on as our next European Commissioner, so lol.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I reckon Salmond will be bloody close.

Farron going is the big prize but less sure about that.

[GS]

The Tories didn't go after Farron's seat in 2015 because it was geographically too much of an effort for the bussed in activists.

He might lose, but he has a 9K majority and does the local TV / press well. He'll cling on.

Norman Lamb is definitely vulnerable, too. Sarah Olney is useless, but it takes a bit of neck to put Zac Goldsmith up again.

[Lewis]

According to the Gina Miller Party, which has raised £413065 off of wallies, the best anti-Brexit vote where I live is Labour, who in 2015 trailed the Conservative MP by a mere twelve thousand votes. Brilliant website love.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Vince will be back in Twickenham (or if he isn't, then lol) and Ed Davey may win back Kingston, but on the other hand Tom Brake should be out on his arse in Carshalton.

Richmond Park is a bit of an unknown but I imagine the fish-faced cow will hold on.

For other SW London middle class wanker seat news follow my tumblr.

[GS]

Vince will be the new leader. Davey will struggle to get back. There's 4,300 kippers in Kingston. He might get some tactical voting from the reds, but it looks uphill.

I wouldn't object to some Lib Dems getting back in in Scotland, if only to shaft the SNP. Swinson looks probable.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Had a leaflet at home today saying ONLY THE LIB DEMS CAN TAKE THIS SEAT FROM DOMINIC RAAB - LABOUR CAN'T WIN HERE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esher_and_Walton_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elec tions_in_the_2010s

Printing those surely the biggest waste of money in electoral history.

[phonics]

*googles Dominic Raab*

http://evolvepolitics.iubc3wu.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/dominic-raab.jpg

2 for 2 today.

[Henry]

I don't have a vote at the moment but I have persuaded at least two people to vote SDLP on the anti-Tory ticket, as their MP's would align with Labour.

[John]

Had a leaflet at home today saying ONLY THE LIB DEMS CAN TAKE THIS SEAT FROM DOMINIC RAAB - LABOUR CAN'T WIN HERE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esher_and_Walton_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elec tions_in_the_2010s

Printing those surely the biggest waste of money in electoral history.

Baron Badger. :D

The Rainbow Dream Alliance from 1997 sound like a fun bunch.


The group originated in the 1980s as the Rainbow Alliance of several small groups, founded and led by Rainbow George Weiss, which Weiss says was after he was contacted by "an extraterrestrial soulmate called Sterling Silver".

The renamed Vote For Yourself Dream Ticket party stood Weiss as its candidate in all four Belfast seats in the 2001 UK general election, pledging to rename Britain and Ireland as the "Emerald Rainbow Isles", to replace the currency with the "Wonder", made up of 100 "gasps",[2] to make utilities, healthcare and education free, and to cancel all debt.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My brother, who lives elsewhere in the country, filled out and sent in a postal vote for Baron Badger. Some people.

[Lewis]

The only leaflet we have had is a Labour one, which the postman handed to me and said 'There you go, straight for the bin' (although the Conservatives have a few signs up). During the referendum we were getting one every couple of days.

I'm going with 44-ish against 34-ish for tomorrow (which is about what ICM have been showing all along isn't it?), and for everyone to realise that the WORST CAMPAIGN EVER was actually a solid success, and that the only actual idiots were those expecting a twenty point win.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't really care what the share is. Labour could pile up 95% in East Ham. All about the seats.

[Waffdon]

I'd laugh if it resulted in a few sneaky Tory seats.

That's exactly what will happen.

[Lewis]

https://s16.postimg.org/t2yrp7wut/DBvu_U_p_Xc_AACqu_Q.jpg

:lol:

[Jimmy Floyd]

I lolled.

[Boydy]

I sighed and rolled my eyes.

[GS]

"If it wasn't for the last minute smear campaign..."

[Pepe]

That's National Enquirer levels of shit. :D

[Kikó]

Fuck off Murdoch.

[GS]

It's a classic of the tabloid genre. Like this fine effort to stop the reds ruining the economy in 1992.

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/sun11.jpg

[Henry]

The Sun continues to disgrace itself.

You've got an IQ in single digits if you take any notice of them. But unfortunately there are a lot of stupid people about.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is what I've got.

Con 376
Lab 198
SNP 44
LD 10
Plaid 3
Other 19

Con maj 102.

[Magic]

This is what I've got.

Con 376
Lab 198
SNP 44
LD 10
Plaid 3
Other 19

Con maj 102.

You're going to lose all your money, cunt.

[Lewis]

The best Sun tweets are the IRA/terrorist ones. The first reply is a picture of the Hillsborough front page. The second is 'it was thirty years ago get over it'. The third is the Hillsborough front page. The fourth...

[GS]

The final polls are all pointing to comfortable Tory majorities. ICM +12, Comres +10, even the YouGov poll which was previously suggesting a hung parliament has, mysteriously, managed to coalesce around a 'standard' gap of at least +7 and would yield a majority of 50.

A three figure majority looks possible here, if you consider the usual 'Labour polling bias', its concentration in safe seats, and Corbyn's alleged toxicity on the doorstep outside London. The May/Corbyn visits certainly support this, as do numerous 'on the ground' reports from Labour Uncut and the New Statesman - neither of which can really be dismissed as unsympathetic to Labour.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

This is what I've got.

Con 376
Lab 198
SNP 44
LD 10
Plaid 3
Other 19

Con maj 102.

That would be dandy.

Anything between 75 and 124 and I'll be £300 up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think it will be between those two (or maybe just below 75 if Jezza has a great day). 125+ would need the likes of Bolsover to come into play, which would be lol but probably unrealistic.

[Lofty]

Gonna be lol watching all these tits who voted Tory cry about not being able to afford healthcare over the coming years.

[Kikó]

I'm going to be voting labour for the first time.

[Magic]

How the fuck are you getting 40odd more Conservative seats?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Gains from Labour (and about 3-4 from the SNP).

[Magic]

What makes you think the shambolic Tories will gain labour seats??

[Lewis]

His eyes and ears.

[Magic]

Mine must be broken then.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

What makes you think the shambolic Tories will gain labour seats??

Is that a wind up?

[Magic]

I've seen enough biased propaganda this week to know this election result inside out.

[Offshore Toon]

I'm gonna vote for Labour too. It's worth a shot, ey.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think Corbz and the boys will nab Pavilion. RIP Caroline.

[-james-]

I think Corbz and the boys will nab Pavilion. RIP Caroline.
17/1 worth a go then?

[Offshore Toon]

I think Corbz and the boys will nab Pavilion. RIP Caroline.
I don't know anybody voting Green, but I never have whilst I've been here. The Green vote appears to be the actual residents, as opposed to the students.

Plus, the Labour candidate is a total joke.

[Ian]

Just learned that the 'Cannabis is Safer Than Alcohol" party aren't running in my bit this time. RIP in pieces, lads.

[Offshore Toon]

We got a flyer through from some independent right-winger promising to make sure we leave the EU. He's definitely in with a chance of getting my vote tomorrow. Who doesn't love the underdog?

[Jimmy Floyd]

17/1 worth a go then?

Oh yeah. I'd have it like 2 or 3/1. Labour seat in a two party squeeze election and Brighton seems like the sort of place that would love the commie cock.

Listen to Offshore though if he has any local knowledge that I don't have. It must be said I know someone in Sussex (not there, but still) who is a Tory/Green swing voter so odd things do happen.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I voted for Theresa May's local candidate this morning for strong and stable leadership in the national interest. Really brought a tear to my eye in the polling station. Van man, young mother, some sort of Alan B'stard lookalike pinstripe man, and me, all doing our duty and voting Conservative :drool:

[ScousePig]

Are we expecting any old faces to grace us with their presence today/tonight?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hopefully dela appears saying that only the Lib Dems can win a majority from here.

[phonics]

Someones put a grand on the Greens to win...

[Jimmy Floyd]

To win what?

[phonics]

A majority.

[Spikey M]

Does it matter what? Unless it's 'a seat in Brighton' they're losing it anyway.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Are they even standing enough candidates to do so? Top bet, that.

[phonics]

Only 1,000 to 1. You could get better odds on Leicester winning the league.

[Kikó]

I bet £1000 at Ladbrokes for Tony Blair to be prime minister on the 1st July. 500/1.

Paul Nuttel is 1000/1.

[phonics]

Parliawint is the best account on Twitter

855530228919279618

Perfection.

[John]

The worst thing you've ever posted.

[Henry]

These are good.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAN1AQkUAAES25I.jpg

https://www.totalpolitics.com/sites/www.totalpolitics.com/files/450x338xukkk87496081359720,P20,P28003,P29.jpg.page speed.ic.VWDnPnR1gh.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBGIATGXYAEkJUI.jpg

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ukipstarrypledge.jpg

http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ELECTION_LEAFLET_DN02.jpg

[Magic]

Parliawint is the best account on Twitter

855530228919279618

Perfection.

:D

Do you genuinely laugh at stuff like that? Fucking freak.

[Ian]

I looked at that account in case that one was a shitter and I didn't so much as consider cracking a smile at any of them. What a load of shit.

[Kikó]

Best Twitter account about.

[Spikey M]

It's funny because he calls himself a silly name.

[Browning]

I'm sure my choice of Bercow or the Green Party is going to have massive implications one way or another...

[Boydy]

I wouldn't go as far as best account on Twitter but parliawint is great. You normies don't get it.

[Magic]

I wouldn't go as far as best account on Twitter but parliawint is great. You normies don't get it.

Probably the least surprising thing of this election, is that you also find that amusing.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't know what reddit is, so yeah.

[Magic]

https://www.facebook.com/bbcnewsbeat/videos/1811355348881315/

:D

He really is a massive cunt.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This 'bin the Sun' stuff is quality. Ladies and gentlemen, the British left.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

There's a chap on Twitter who filmed himself hiding 40 copies of The Sun behind the milk.

'lol'

[Jimmy Floyd]

They should hide it behind the Rustlers burgers and tins of own brand cider, that way no chance of potential Tory voters seeing it.

[Mellberg]

Just don't hide it behind the snooker balls, belts and lengths or rope whatever you do.

[Spikey M]

They should hide it behind the Rustlers burgers and tins of own brand cider, that way no chance of potential Tory voters seeing it.

You've never met one of Bamsters lot, have you? Rustlers burgers and cheap cider is pretty much the White Van Mans staple diet.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They're more into Ginsters and Red Bull in my experience, though my experience generally amounts to waving an overly cheery helloo at them as they walk their equipment through the orangery.

[Magic]

Is Twitter down or is it just my shitty PC/virgin accidentally blocking it?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Someone IN THE KNOW just told me Diane Abbott is on the sauce, hence everything.

[John]

There's a lovely picture doing the rounds today which claims Corbyn won the '2013 Gandhi Peace Award', while May is selling bombs to ISIS supporters. What he actually won was an 'award' given out by a dinky organisation with a Geocities level website, rather than the actual Gandhi Peace Award, winners of which are often also in the running for the Nobel.

[Lewis]

There seems to be a widespread belief that the things we sell to Saudi Arabia are then bussed directly to the Islamic State. And it's mainly believed by people who appeal for nuance in understanding what Jezza was doing at IRA funerals.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'd love to put those twonks in charge of foreign policy for a fortnight and see just what they managed to fuck up.

[John]

I told someone the other day that our first sale of arms to Saudi Arabia was under Labour in the sixties and it seemed to smash his world to bits.

[Pepe]

Voting on a weekday is a bit shit, no? No wonder only pensioners bother.

[Offshore Toon]

Voting on a weekday is a bit shit, no? No wonder only pensioners bother.
Is it Australia where everybody gets the day off? Great idea.

[phonics]

You also get fined for not voting.

[Henry]

There seems to be a widespread belief that the things we sell to Saudi Arabia are then bussed directly to the Islamic State.

There's nobody who thinks that, I'll wager,

[Offshore Toon]

I voted at half ten and the polling station was dead. Campus is mostly foreigners at the moment, though. That's a boost for the Greens, anyway.

[phonics]

Just seen something that DEFINITELY HAPPENED

872721174308024320

[John]

There's nobody who thinks that, I'll wager,

You'd lose that wager.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I voted at half ten and the polling station was dead. Campus is mostly foreigners at the moment, though. That's a boost for the Greens, anyway.

This might save Cleggers actually. Not sure it'll be enough for Julian Huppert though.

[Offshore Toon]

What time will be get an exit poll?

[Henry]

What time will be get an exit poll?

10pm apparently.

[Kikó]

Soon after the polls close at 10.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's usually on the bong isn't it?

Last time it was:

BONG
We are predicting a hung parliament, with the Conservatives the largest party
BONG
lolol
BONG
Lib Dems down to 12 seats
BONG
lolololololololol

[niko_cee]

Is it Australia where everybody gets the day off? Great idea.

They vote at the weekend and start counting about 4 days later.

I'm sure the exit poll had a Conservative majority last time, didn't it?

[Kikó]

Yes but even that underestimated.

[GS]

They vote at the weekend and start counting about 4 days later.

I'm sure the exit poll had a Conservative majority last time, didn't it?

No, they had the Tories at 316.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They vote at the weekend and start counting about 4 days later.

I'm sure the exit poll had a Conservative majority last time, didn't it?

From memory it had them just short of a majority - 315 or so. I was too busy jizzing myself to take full notes though.

[Henry]

The polls are showing everything from Tories +13 to Labour +3
Probably something like Tories +6 in that case as the most likely result, which I understand isn't that far from the status quo.

[Reg]

Voted Labour. Gone Labour - Green - Labour in my voting lifetime so far.

[Magic]

I hope all the YOUTH troll THE EXIT POLLS so it looks like a Tory landslide but is actually announced as a Labour majority.

:eyemouth:

[Spikey M]

I have never been asked, but I will lie if I ever am. Fuck the exit polls.

[Mike]

Just voted. My polling station is a pub
https://i.imgur.com/F5CvjG7.jpg

[Spikey M]

They should all be.

[Henry]

Bound to get a higher turnout.

[Mike]

I fully agree.
Turnout would sky rocket, especially if you couldn't get served until you'd voted.

It's genuinely the main reason I bother to vote and the only time I go the pub alone.

[Magic]

You'd have to have 6 pints before voting. #voteUKIP

[-james-]

I fully agree.
Turnout would sky rocket, especially if you couldn't get served until you'd voted.

It's genuinely the main reason I bother to vote and the only time I go the pub alone.

Are they still serving drinks? That's hilarious.

[Magic]

Just watched a video of some asian guy getting all his limbs hacked off then beheaded.

[Mike]

Are they still serving drinks? That's hilarious.

Yeah. You vote in the function room.

[Spikey M]

Just watched a video of some asian guy getting all his limbs hacked off then beheaded.

That's nice.

[Lewis]

What had he done?

[Shindig]

Voted this morning. First general election I've voted in. I'll be on the wrong side of history again but I've never known a government fuck me over. Yet.

I'm amazed electoral fraud isn't rife in this country. Name, address, here you go. If I knew a non-voter and their polling station, I could've fiddled.

[Pepe]

I'm amazed electoral fraud isn't rife in this country.

How do you know it isn't?

[Pepe]

Forgot the :sherlock:

[Pleb]

Plymouth still hasn't fucking bothered to give them postal votes which is fucking lol really considering they are a Conservative sector.

Three General Elections in a row I believe.

[Waffdon]

Voted this morning. First general election I've voted in. I'll be on the wrong side of history again but I've never known a government fuck me over. Yet.

I'm amazed electoral fraud isn't rife in this country. Name, address, here you go. If I knew a non-voter and their polling station, I could've fiddled.

Mental you don't need any ID.

[7om]

Some of the arseholes are getting the seethe in early today on social media and we haven't even had an exit poll yet.

[Pleb]

There's going to be some :drool: :drool: :drool: throwing around once that Big Ben dong hits.

[niko_cee]

Mental you don't need any ID.

Don't you need your voting card normally?

[Boydy]

You need ID in Northern Ireland.

[Magic]

What had he done?

Not sure. They looked like paramilitary types so could have been hardline Malaysians or some shit