UK General Election 2017 - 8 June

[Yevrah]

It is a shame he does also appear to be useless.

[Lofty]

It looks bad for Starmer when he is supoosed to be some kind of shit hot legal eagle rapier witted messiah being shown up by Mick Lynch just walking into rooms making people look like cunts with ease. Also the decision to order his MPs to avoid pickets today was comically tin eared.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's just playing the long game, people at the next election won't be voting on some industrial dispute from summer 2022. It's more of a risk to alienate the strike-haters, as they'll remember it and it'll be hammered home if he's on picket lines.

He'll probably win handily and then the left will start moaning at him again as if their interests would be better served by having Boris Johnson in charge forever.

[Lofty]

Possibly, but I'm not sure I would hold my nose and vote Labour right now (though I life in a safe Tory seat so it's irrelevant I suppose). Most Tory voters seem to hate him, the support Corbyn had has dried up and they have been getting pasted in by-elections on the whole. A couple of quippy head to head TV debates and Boris rides into a decade long premiership.

[Lewis]

Possibly, but I'm not sure I would hold my nose and vote Labour right now (though I life in a safe Tory seat so it's irrelevant I suppose). Most Tory voters seem to hate him, the support Corbyn had has dried up and they have been getting pasted in by-elections on the whole. A couple of quippy head to head TV debates and Boris rides into a decade long premiership.

Wo-hoah alright big man.

[Boydy]

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Good thread here on inflation and the supposed wage-price spiral.

[Ben]

There's no rich people if nobody is poor. Generation after generation the elite manage to convince the electorate that boosting minimum wage into "living comfortable" territory will torpedo the whole economy, when in fact it's just a threat to their own bottom lines and the majority lap it up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

People lap it up because they are mainly concerned with being, even marginally, better off than the people around them (which is also why socialism doesn't work).

The bigger threat to 'elites' will be when they allow regional towns to get sufficiently shit that crime starts rising in a big way, which (the crime bit anyway) I don't think has happened yet.

[Spikey M]

Can confirm. Next door just got a swish new garden set and I am seething.

[Lewis]

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Good thread here on inflation and the supposed wage-price spiral.

He blames supply chain disruption and profiteering for the inflation, and then suggests inflationary tax cuts and hoping the supply chains sort themselves out as the solutions. The planner's dilemma.

As a proponent of 'modern monetary theory' he should be advocating strict demand-sapping measures to control inflation right now; but he can't, because then he can't push his other policy goals, which is sort of the big hole in the idea. It's also why he skirts around the massive currency devaluation that tends to have some effect on prices. He might be literally the last person in the world worth listening to at the moment.

[Shindig]

People lap it up because they are mainly concerned with being, even marginally, better off than the people around them (which is also why socialism doesn't work).

Yep. It's why I never want to know what my colleagues are on. If we really want to soften that divide, you really have to breed a nation of young people who don't piss payday up the wall.

[Manc]

The entire audience (country) is out for Mick.

[Waffdon]

someone needs to kick Fiona Bruce’s head in.

[Waffdon]

That audience make Jimmy and Lewis look like right lefties.

[Waffdon]

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Fuck me hahahahaah

[Don]

Just looked at the polling numbers and fairplay if Starmer wants to keep silent tbf, I'll judge him once he's in power.

[Ben]

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Fuck me hahahahaah

Did anyone pick her up on the fact it's not the drivers striking? Doubt it. This post-truth world we are living in is horrendous.

[Ben]

Another two by-election losses for the Tories. Tiverton especially is a disaster. EDIT: Dowden resigned as party chairman at 5.30am this morning, just before he was due to go on the morning broadcast round. :D

Boris must be due another trip to Kyiv I reckon.

[Kikó]

Question time is a complete shit show.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The thing is that thanks to the confidence vote being too early, Boris can now limp on more or less forever like a wounded animal, unable to really do or accomplish anything, but clinging onto office, like a really shit vampire slowly sucking the British nation dry.

I reckon the entire cabinet could resign on him and he still wouldn't quit.

[Lofty]

As usual the whole thing (watching on catch up now, about half way through) isn't helped by the average person's understanding of the railway and how it works on a functional level, regardless of pay, conditions etc. Fiona definitely seems like she is keen to interrupt any answers Mick gives to stifle any forthcoming audience approval, though as noted there are a lot of angry people in the room anyway.

Dinosaur woman had crazy eyes. Mick could have probably rebutted her better but then you want to save your zings for the journos and MPs not anything that could be replayed as attacking a senile old woman. Lol at that tory woman getting out a Network Rail letter claiming it said something it didn't. I feel they could have had someone better on audience wise than the ticket office guy but it is what it is.

[Ben]

The thing is that thanks to the confidence vote being too early, Boris can now limp on more or less forever like a wounded animal, unable to really do or accomplish anything, but clinging onto office, like a really shit vampire slowly sucking the British nation dry.

I reckon the entire cabinet could resign on him and he still wouldn't quit.

There's talk that the 1922 will fuck off the 12 month rule before the summer recess. David Davis alluded to this in a speech last night, basically saying Boris has three months to save himself.

[Shindig]

But you've been running disruption stories all week. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61857007)

Privatise the BBC.

[Yevrah]

Best person on QT last night was the chap in the audience who ran a small business. Mick was solid, but the rest didn't seem to understand what World we're living in.

It took over 5 minutes discussing Boris Johnson for anyone (again an audience member) to point out that he's still here because no one else wants to put themselves forward for the gig at this moment in time.

[Lofty]

Small business guy was mega bellend. Comparing apples and oranges, I bet his multi skill work force version is asking someone to use excel instead of word not getting hit by a train because you were deployed somewhere you hadn't signed off prior.

[Yevrah]

I know nothing about how the train service actually functions behind the scenes (I'm Ye...), but when you compare the customer experience to that of, say, flying, it's a complete shit show. The latter is inherently far more dangerous and looks to be much more complicated logistically to pull off, but they manage it. Even simple stuff when training, like buying a ticket, is a joke. As one example, what the fuck is peak and off peak all about? It's the same sodding journey.

[niko_cee]

Not sure the customer experience of the airline industry is the best possible current comparison.

Ticketing should obviously be a lot simpler with rail fares though. There was a good comment years and years ago from, I think, one of Clinton's political bods about the use of focus groups to get into power and the danger of continuing to roll with them when it came to determining actual policy. I think the example was one of the various early New Labour rail disasters [Ladbrooke Grove] where public opinion on the issue of rail safety and more money for it went from 'don't give a fuck' to 'No.1 national priority' in the course of a day. Good luck with strategic planning if that's your model. We've obviously put that whole methodology on steroids for the past 25 years and the upshot seems to be mass failure of all major bureaucracies.

That said, on the rail disaster front, I also always wonder if we don't do too badly. Strikes me that the Germans, with all their efficiency and spending and whatnot seem to manage to have quite a few themselves that make it into the news on a reasonably regular basis.

[Lofty]

The ticketing system is a disgrace and should be streamlined. One of the major problems in my view from customer experience is train companies trying to replicate air travel experience. The difference being you generally have to behave on an plane and book your ticket in advance, it can't be oversold in theory. The railway is open access so anyone can board a train, and people can board a train even when it too busy to accomodate more passengers joining it. Which creates it's own problems.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Off-peak tickets are obviously an attempt to get people not to travel in rush hour and cram the trains to breaking point. The only flaw in that plan is that people actually have to turn up to work on time. I almost think they should get rid of it, as the people able to travel at 11am will be doing so anyway just to avoid the madness. Price is almost a non-factor.

I used to commute on the Waterloo to Woking line, which must be easily one of the busiest in the country, and it was absolute bedlam on a daily basis. I absolutely will not take a job commuting on a train again for my own sanity, and I don't care how many Bangladeshis drown from my resulting car fumes.

[Yevrah]

Off-peak tickets are obviously an attempt to get people not to travel in rush hour and cram the trains to breaking point. The only flaw in that plan is that people actually have to turn up to work on time. I almost think they should get rid of it, as the people able to travel at 11am will be doing so anyway just to avoid the madness. Price is almost a non-factor.


Indeed and this is my point. No one who doesn't need to is going to be getting on a train in rush hour. Even if it worked the other way around and the tickets were cheaper I doubt they would.

[Don]

Commuters' behaviours are almost entirely driven by price in this age of flexibility and donating kidneys for train fares. The first off-peak train is now the one getting sardined up.

Having peak and off-peak times is a sensible business model, what is far from sensible is breaking it down into regions, ticket types etc to such a degree that you have such a fragmented system even the workers can't make sense of it. I make the same journey 12 times a month. I'd wager around half of the tickets bear no resemblance to each other. It's beyond deranged.

[Lofty]

Also the average occasional rail user is even more stumped. They used to offer a ticket type called a duo which was for off peak travel allowing two people discounted return tickets as long as they travelled together. The amount of times I advised people travelling one way that the duo was cheaper than two singles and they told me 'but we aren't coming back' was staggering.

[Raoul Duke]

House of Cunts coming down now. Keith Starmer #herewego

[Magic]

:drool:

[Don]

Trust the Asians to bottle it and protect their own necks when the heat gets too much. As if this is even in his top 5 worst acts.

[Spikey M]

About fucking time, but the shameless cunt still won't resign.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bury the prick.

[Yevrah]

I was looking at the Pincher stuff earlier and thinking the whole thing is a genuine national embarrassment now. The Tories should be ashamed for bottling the vote, he's simply not fit to be an MP, let alone Prime Minister.

[Spikey M]

I'm looking forward to Lewis' justification.

[Gray Fox]

Those who dont know what Boris is like are expecting him to go.

This man is fully about himself, he’ll give not one fuck for the Tory party now. He’s going nowhere.

[Yevrah]

How long do they have to wait until the next vote of no confidence?

If they have any sense they'll be spending that period of time looking for someone who a) is good enough for the job and b) wants it, then push the button as soon as they can. If they don't they're going to lose the next election, with Starmer having done next to nothing to win it.

[Shindig]

Yeah, he never at any point looked like he'd go willingly. He has to be forced out through an election or unanimous party rebellion. He's miles off the latter.

[Kikó]

How long do they have to wait until the next vote of no confidence?

If they have any sense they'll be spending that period of time looking for someone who a) is good enough for the job and b) wants it, then push the button as soon as they can. If they don't they're going to lose the next election, with Starmer having done next to nothing to win it.

Unless they change the rules, it's 12 months I think.

[Lewis]

I read a thing earlier about MPs being asked by their constituents how many men they've molested recently, and I thought that might be the end of him. They won't want people sticking their noses too far into their other business.

[Ben]

I fancy Boris to call a general election over resigning. Then he’ll lose his seat completely in some absolute scenes.

[Spikey M]

I fancy Boris to call a general election over resigning. Then he’ll lose his seat completely in some absolute scenes.

It would be very Boris. I also wouldn't put it past him to make some kind of mental lie promise like 0% tax for 2 years just so he can stay.

[Lewis]

I'm not sure he would be allowed to call a general election solely as a means of shoring himself up. Unless one is due or it's over a matter of confidence in the government, the Queen would be well within her rights to tell him to fuck off and expect the Conservative Party to replace him.

[Yevrah]

The resignation letters. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62058236

Ouch.

[randomlegend]

Someone my wife works with is a lesbian and went with her partner to vote in the local elections the other week.

The Tory candidate approached them to try and convince them to vote for him. He initially addressed them as mother and daughter (which they obviously corrected him on) then when they informed him they definitely wouldn't be voting for him, he asked if they fancied a threesome.

[Yevrah]

Classy guy.

Talking of which, looks like Boris is furiously reshuffling the cabinet.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Surprised Bim has gone considering he's stood up heavily for Boris (and Theresa May before him).

[Yevrah]

Straw that broke the camel's back.

[Don]

Who the fuck is 'Bim'? It's an ethnic clearout. Fuck off, Kwasi, you gimp.

[Lewis]

Doing that on telly is low rent enough, but on 'Talk TV'? Sad.

[Yevrah]

Cabinet reshuffled, he's going to survive again. :D

[Lewis]

Andy Burnham executed by the Army. Patriots in control.

[Lofty]

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[Jimmy Floyd]

He won't resign for any reason - foolishly, as for every day he clings on, the more of an unserious figure he becomes on the historical record.

It is absurd that they couldn't organise themselves to do it last month. Dorries et al should be led outside and shot.

[Yevrah]

On the not resigning thing, I agree, but you have to wonder whether he isn't genuinely mentally impaired.

[phonics]

No he’s just an self infatuated arsehole.

[Yevrah]

No he’s just an self infatuated arsehole.

And the mentally impaired bit comes in if he thinks hanging on for what, the xth time now, is going to do anything for is reputation other than make it even worse.

[Lewis]

The type of people who get into these jobs (same with the people they surround themselves with) are inclined to think they can turn it around. Theresa May had to have her Brexit deal chucked back in her face repeatedly; George Osborne was leaking his leadership ambitions as David Cameron packed his furniture; Gordon Brown sat around trying to put a coalition together that didn't exist... David Cameron was the exception insofar as he was only ever Prime Minister as a hobby so didn't really care. The political diehards are all partially mental.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm not sure I'd describe Boris as a political diehard. He's seemed quite ill to me ever since he stopped being London mayor / since Marina kicked him out.

[Lewis]

I was thinking earlier what he could do in retirement and there can't be many options. He isn't sufficiently connected (or liked) for the corrupt 'advisor' roles, he can't just retire and get fat like Cameron, and you can hardly go back to writing lol Telegraph columns after being a crap Prime Minister. He might actually starve to death once the memoir advance has been pissed up the wall.

[Don]

You think he hasn't done enough favours for the rich and powerful to keep him comfy? The more crooked you are, the more success you'll have out of it.

[Shindig]

Boris Johnson's whole career has been about falling upwards. He has no idea how he got there and is probably terrified out what unemployment (or retirement, whatever) will bring. His wife is his carer and she's also conveniently retarded. All his jobs have been in the press or terrible books with his gormless face on the cover.

And he's American.

[Spikey M]

I was thinking earlier what he could do in retirement and there can't be many options. He isn't sufficiently connected (or liked) for the corrupt 'advisor' roles, he can't just retire and get fat like Cameron, and you can hardly go back to writing lol Telegraph columns after being a crap Prime Minister. He might actually starve to death once the memoir advance has been pissed up the wall.

The fashion for retards that have come a cropper is to pretend they believe in mental Conspiracy Theories and disappear down the Noel Edmonds Magical Cancer Box rabbit hole with Tronald, Hopkins and David Icke.

[Luke Emia]

He's like some kind of cross between T1 and a cockroach at this point. Whenever you think he is fucked he just carries on as if nothing has happened it just seems like this circus is going to carry on forever.

[Lofty]

Boris Johnson's whole career has been about falling upwards. He has no idea how he got there and is probably terrified out what unemployment (or retirement, whatever) will bring. His wife is his carer and she's also conveniently retarded. All his jobs have been in the press or terrible books with his gormless face on the cover.

And he's American.

He'll be fine, he will just charge triple what he used to on the after dinner circuit.

[Kikó]

He's like some kind of cross between T1 and a cockroach at this point. Whenever you think he is fucked he just carries on as if nothing has happened it just seems like this circus is going to carry on forever.

:D x

[randomlegend]

What is T1 referring to there? In my world it's either the eSports org or Tyler1.

[Luke Emia]

What is T1 referring to there? In my world it's either the eSports org or Tyler1.

Yeah that should be a T1000 but you get the idea.

[7om]

I don’t understand these politicians like Sunak. Why is the latest revelation enough for him to resign but the prior 3 years of corruption and lies was all fine and dandy? Why are they prepared to back the guy through such garbage but this is what pushes them over the edge? You’ve either got morals or you don’t and these resignations just look like more BS politics.

[SvN]

I don’t understand these politicians like Sunak. Why is the latest revelation enough for him to resign but the prior 3 years of corruption and lies was all fine and dandy? Why are they prepared to back the guy through such garbage but this is what pushes them over the edge? You’ve either got morals or you don’t and these resignations just look like more BS politics.

Because he thinks it's the perfect timing for him, career wise.

[randomlegend]

I don’t understand these politicians like Sunak. Why is the latest revelation enough for him to resign but the prior 3 years of corruption and lies was all fine and dandy? Why are they prepared to back the guy through such garbage but this is what pushes them over the edge? You’ve either got morals or you don’t and these resignations just look like more BS politics.

Rats leaving the ship when they perceive it's actually sinking.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I imagine grope enabling is a bit close to home for a lot of MPs.

[Lofty]

He must be desperate, 'but Jeremy Corbyn'

[Kikó]

Johnson is absolutely tragic.

[Lofty]

Javid sticking the knife in here.

[niko_cee]

Does health secretary count as one of the great offices of state or is that just home, foreign and chancellor? Can't have been many (or any) to resign twice from office under the same PM.

Country's probably better cobbling on under Johnson than letting Javid and Sunak (and their banker mates) run things.

The obvious answer is Prime Minister Jeremy Hunt. It will happen one day.

[Don]

The goblin they've got on Politics Live churning out the Corbyn line again :D This is pretty great scenes.

[Ben]

It’s a pathetic state of affairs for the Conservatives and therefore the whole country when Hunt is seemingly (by far) the best option as leader. That chancer raped the NHS.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The arch-boomer in our office is on a mad one today.

'I don't care what anyone says - I still love Boris'

'Rwanda's a beautiful country, amazing scenery. And you know, one of the people on the plane said they wouldn't have come here if they'd known they'd be sent there. So it's a good policy, doing its job.'

'Keir Starmer. It's disgusting. The beer, the curry. How dare he take Boris to task.' (when it's pointed out Keir leads the Labour party) 'Does he? I thought he was Conservatives.'

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

27 resignations now.

He can't last the week, can he?

[7om]

I actually don’t think he would ever quit. He will have to be forced out somehow.

[Yevrah]

It’s our version of Trump all this and no, he won’t go of his own accord. The man is missing the shame gene.

[7om]

Would Ben Wallace ever be considered a replacement for Boris? You never hear his name come up and yet he seems to actually be competent at his job and comes across well in interviews.

[phonics]

I saw a Sky News feed and it has a live ticker of resignations which was quite funny.

[phonics]

Would Ben Wallace ever be considered a replacement for Boris? You never hear his name come up and yet he seems to actually be competent at his job and comes across well in interviews.

Always came across as an absolute bluffer to me.

[Lewis]

Anyone but the white women being named.

[-james-]

Penny Mordaunt looks a right sort.

[Yevrah]

I saw a Sky News feed and it has a live ticker of resignations which was quite funny.

The BBC have it now too. 32 and counting. :D

[Don]

He was getting grilled to the point of mockery by the committee straight after PMQ. Some cunt even tested his knowledge of imperial units in what was a line of questioning straight off of twitter.

Credit where it's due, it often feels like these fuckers are bulletproof but this intensity of scrutiny is what separates this country from the true corruption countries. He's clearly feeling it too so at least we can take comfort in the fact it's shaving considerable time off of his worthless life.

[Yevrah]

Flicked it on now and he's getting absolutely shelled. The people grilling him are treating him with the respect of a junior minister too.

He looks ill and I genuinely think he's deranged.

[Don]

Christ, it's still going and with the same ferocity. Just get up, walk out and enjoy the peace, man.

[Yevrah]

33.

Apparently a group of cabinet ministers are waiting for him in number 10 to try and persuade him to resign.

[Don]

Chris Bryant is feasting. Have mercy.

[niko_cee]

Penny Mordaunt looks a right sort.

I think you could pay to go to dinner/wild swimming with her if you wanted a while ago.

[Ben]

This is excellent stuff.

[Yevrah]

It really is.

[Don]

They're running a train on his pert blonde ass.

[Yevrah]

I can't remember anything like this happening in my lifetime. Post letting 12 year olds have the gig, has it?

[7om]

Now he’s saying people have drink problems lmao

[Yevrah]

He is a complete mess. A lazy, incompetent, liar.

[niko_cee]

Quite funny when he walks into this meeting they've got lined up for him and summarily sacks everyone on the spot/has them marched out of the building.

[Don]

Now he’s saying people have drink problems lmao

Just an observation, mate.

[Ben]

He’s so deluded. The resignation ticker goes up one every time he says something. :D

[7om]

Is he mentally ill? I’m thinking he might be.

[Ben]

Top shithousery from Zahawi. Convinces Boris to make him Chancellor and now is in the delegation waiting to tell him to fuck off.

[Yevrah]

Having to change your own rules to get him out. :D

[Ben]

Sky News have just got a static camera on the door of No. 10 and it’s absolutely riveting television.

[Gray Fox]

He may no longer have enough support left to fill of the vacating MPs jobs.

[Lofty]

Penny Mordaunt looks a right sort.

She was prancing about in a swimsuit a few years back for tv.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How many total resigned under May? Did she ever have a 24 hour period as bad as this?

[Ben]

Nobody has. If he survives this long term then he’s actually superhuman.

[Gray Fox]

How many total resigned under May? Did she ever have a 24 hour period as bad as this?

Worst resignation record of any PM ever now, I believe.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, this is unprecedented, certainly in my lifetime.

When people have gone outside of an election previously they rarely wanted to but knew there was no way back. Seems Boris can’t quite grasp that part of it. Chuck in a botched vote of no confidence and the system, such that it is, falls to shit.

The idea that he could call a general election is where things get proper lol.

[Ben]

His humble bragging on the dinner circuit will be interesting.

[Yevrah]

Top shithousery from Zahawi. Convinces Boris to make him Chancellor and now is in the delegation waiting to tell him to fuck off.

Yep, really poor form. Would love to see Boris fire him tonight. Might as well string out the spectacle until the 1922 committee rip up the rule book.

[niko_cee]

Does the Prime Minister actually have any power himself without the support of his cabinet? He can't really go freewheeling in the style of a rogue POTUS, can he?

[7om]

This reminds me of the dying days of WCW. Bischoff in then he’s out. Now it’s Russo then he’s out then he’s back as a consultant. No, it’s neither of them, it’s now Kevin Nash. Now it’s Terry Taylor and Dusty Rhodes.

Ultimately, no cunt knows who’s actually doing what.

Fucking kill this shit, Vince McMahon style.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Does the Prime Minister actually have any power himself without the support of his cabinet? He can't really go freewheeling in the style of a rogue POTUS, can he?

Could he appoint loads of cabinet positions to himself / the last few loyalists? There must be precedent from the 1700s or something.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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That straight line :drool:

[niko_cee]

Could he appoint loads of cabinet positions to himself / the last few loyalists? There must be precedent from the 1700s or something.

I was thinking to myself, if there is some political no hoper MP who fancies a run at being Chancellor [and all the opportunities that stem therefrom in the aftermath of not being it anymore], then this is their time to seize the nettle. Bowl in, cut loads of taxes, do loads of other populist stuff, saunter out the greatest chancellor in history [after 3 days].

[KIR]

Would any PM have survived a Brext - Covid double whammy? I mean he's clearly shit but he has been dealt an extremely shitty hand, I bet he's gutted he didn't just wait for another few years for the job to become available again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Would any PM have survived a Brext - Covid double whammy? I mean he's clearly shit but he has been dealt an extremely shitty hand, I bet he's gutted he didn't just wait it out for another few years.

He's negotiated those two things pretty ok - the reason he's gone is because he's a dickhead.

[Spikey M]

Would any PM have survived a Brext - Covid double whammy? I mean he's clearly shit but he has been dealt an extremely shitty hand, I bet he's gutted he didn't just wait it out for another few years.

He's not in this situation because of either of those situations. People accept that it has been an exceptionally difficult few years.

He is fucked because he is completely incapable of telling the truth.

[KIR]

He's negotiated those two things pretty ok - the reason he's gone is because he's a dickhead.

I feel like if Covid never happens, "partygate" obviously never happens and his dickheadedness wouldn't have come to the fore as much. Covid probably cost Trump too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Again, that's not covid, that's him being a twat.

[Spikey M]

The geezer has more gates than B&Q. If Covid hadn't happened, he'd have been up to something else.

[Ben]

The electorate were on the whole quite satisfied with COVID and Brexit. If we were in an alternate timeline where they weren’t a thing I still think Boris would find another catalyst to disgrace himself with. He’s just a serial liar who in hindsight represented the worst road we could have gone down.

[7om]

Were people satisfied with covid? The vaccine rollout, sure. But the first six months of the pandemic were absolutely disgraceful. I don’t think people did accept the PPE scandals, test & trace not working and locking down too late.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Were people satisfied with covid? The vaccine rollout, sure. But the first six months of the pandemic were absolutely disgraceful. I don’t think people did accept the PPE scandals, test & trace not working and locking down too late.

I think they did (outside left wing media who hate him anyway). It was only the illicit parties when his numbers nosedived across the board.

[7om]

Maybe we’re to blame by having ridiculously low standards, then.

[niko_cee]

Yeah.

The 'right answers' on covid weren't any better than what was cobbled together.

Straight out utilitarian mass death was actually the best option, but they bottled that, well, sort of.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My observation was that all the way through the pandemic people just thought 'Well, maybe they got things wrong, but it was a shit job to have and we all would have got things wrong too'.

The only times they got hammered in the polls were the two instances - Barnard Castle and parties - when those in power were not following the rules that they had imposed on everyone else.

[Shindig]

Is there a Howard Wilkinson equivalent for Prime Ministers?

[niko_cee]

What's Guus Hiddink up to?

Avram Grant at a push [the nuclear button].

[Ben]

Were people satisfied with covid? The vaccine rollout, sure. But the first six months of the pandemic were absolutely disgraceful. I don’t think people did accept the PPE scandals, test & trace not working and locking down too late.

Not in my opinion. He was a disgrace at every step but I realise I, and we here, aren’t representative of the nation (remember rich old people make up a huge chunk of the electorate); the amount of mental gymnastics that went on to validate him shows he had the popular support until not that long ago.

[Gray Fox]

He's done okay in the eye of the public. The main counter is, it was all a shit show could anyone really have done better?

However now the toff buffoon act, that got him in, has worn out it's 'charm' and gone full circle. The public now can't stand the person.

[Lewis]

It's pretty embarrassing now. He could have survived yesterday (probably for the full twelve months), but today is irretrievable, so what is he hoping happens?

[Shindig]

He's hoping he can appoint Carrie to three cabinet positions.

[Lewis]

He could theoretically make himself all of the different ministers and appoint 'advisors' to do the legwork.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He could theoretically make himself all of the different ministers and appoint 'advisors' to do the legwork.

Could he ennoble himself and run it from the Lords? Worth a try.

[Lewis]

Why is Ian Blackford allowed a say in any of this when they have an almost identical predatory bender scandal going on in their own ranks?

[Spikey M]

He's both arrogant enough to think he's going down with the ship and stupid enough to not realise that he's actually the Iceberg.

I would say that this is the plan to rescue the rest of them and save the next election, but he doesn't have it in him.

[Yevrah]

It's pretty embarrassing now. He could have survived yesterday (probably for the full twelve months), but today is irretrievable, so what is he hoping happens?

3 hours with the cabinet and nothing. He’s genuinely ill.

[phonics]

He’s not ill. He’s just a dickhead.

[Yevrah]

He’s not ill. He’s just a dickhead.

I don’t say this to absolve him of any blame, I agree he’s an absolute dickhead.

[Lewis]

3 hours with the cabinet and nothing. He’s genuinely ill.

They're making CHANGING THE RULES into some big deal, which it isn't really. The current rules work on the assumption that the people concerned can read the writing on the wall, so, if they don't, they need to be tweaked according to circumstances.

[Spikey M]

They're making it sound like a big deal because it shows that Boris - and Boris alone - is the problem. The rest of them are just a great bunch of lads doing the Lords work. It's so transparent, but it'll probably work.

[Raoul Duke]

Paraphrasing a tweet, but: big fan of the 1922 crew changing the rules to vote again because they didn't like the result :henn0rz:

[Lewis]

It's a shame he can't just style it out like Wor Jezza and go to the membership. That could have been comedy gold.

[Ben]

He's done okay in the eye of the public. The main counter is, it was all a shit show could anyone really have done better?

The stuff that any PM would have faced is what the public have largely given him a pass on. It’s his extra curricular activities that will sink him.

[Luke Emia]

He’s sacked Gove now. He’s the only semi competent person in the whole cabinet(that doesn’t mean I like him just that he’s not a complete imbecile).

[Luke Emia]

How the fuck is he actually going to fill these 40 odd positions anyway?

[Boydy]

How the fuck is he actually going to fill these 40 odd positions anyway?

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[Luke Emia]

I see that useless cunt Liz Truss is still stuck up his arse as well.

[Lewis]

How the fuck is he actually going to fill these 40 odd positions anyway?

With the absolute dregs of the backbenches like Corbyn had to.

[Ben]

This will be the biggest shit show of a Government ever. All the competent ones are out. For the sake of the country I hope it doesn’t last long.

[phonics]

Gove asking to be fired instead of resigning is very funny.

[Ben]

Even Jacob Young has resigned, and that lad was born up Boris’ arse.

[Luke Emia]

With the absolute dregs of the backbenches like Corbyn had to.

He’s already on the dregs. Hancock is going to be back in at some point soon.

[Giggles]

Are the fans still really living off “something something Corbyn”?

It really is just like soccer these days.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This James Duddridge doing the rounds is the closest thing I've seen to Comical Ali since the great man himself.

"We're coming out fighting!" Amazing stuff. Why has he sacked Michael Gove? "Hahaha.. I don't know."

[Ben]

Comical Ali :cool:

[Lewis]

I didn't know who 'James Duddridge' was but I would have sworn this bloke was Middle Eastern.

[niko_cee]

I rather assumed Boris' play here was essentially a massive fuck you to all and sundry and blowing up the party, which will surely force a general election. Much as I want Prime Minister Hunt, a rushed rule change to allow another no-confidence vote, followed by a rushed election to appoint some mook everyone hates to be the Prime Minister really isn't going to wash is it [when the alternative would be 'bringing down the government'] which would lead to the general election they so desperately don't want. Someone really ought to be bringing a motion of no confidence in the government to add to the lolz.

[Ian]

Who's even left? Is it just Boris sitting somewhere in number 10 having a crywank while Dorries listens at the door?

[Shindig]

She's watching that wank.

[Boydy]

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[Spikey M]

I reckon he just wants to get sacked because if he quits he can't claim Universal Credit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Does he actually have anywhere else to live? Maybe that's why he's staying put.

[Don]

BBC News doing a piece on voters in Wiltshire or some cunting gammon hive. They interviewed 3 supporters who defended him. Average age 134.6. What a minute of TV that was, get it on the iplayer :D

[Ian]

Does he actually have anywhere else to live? Maybe that's why he's staying put.

"But I've just had the living room done up. :("

[Jimmy Floyd]

Speaking of gammon:

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[Lewis]

Piers Morgan having no fans on that channel proves what we thought about GB News. He was MASSIVE on ITV because people just stick any old shit on at certain times of the day, but nobody actually seeks it out.

Douglas Murray making Alastair Campbell storm off was top telly though.

[Manc]

One can only imagine what dirt Boris has on Burns.

[Ian]

That plus one of his shows was based around trying to get tears from celebrities which is proper tabloid bait.

[Lofty]

Bookies favourite for new PM, phwoar:

https://i.ibb.co/VmSs0rT/uktv-splash-heat-three-contestants-5.jpg

[Magic]

Zahawi. :harold:

[Shindig]

Donelan Gonelan. :D

[Spikey M]

Zahawi. :harold:

:D what a snake

[Luke Emia]

Why doesn't he just resign then? Or why did he even take the job in the first instance?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Zahawi didn't actually resign in his letter did he? Just told the PM to do so.

Think he might actually go now.

[Luke Emia]

He's done. BBC has it that he's going to resign. Good fucking riddance.

[igor_balis]

Rip

[Ben]

What a day.

[Kikó]

Worse than May.

[Yevrah]

Yep. Anything good or competently handled on his watch was down to Cummings and once he left it was shambles city.

[Ian]

Given the Tory trend of going "you thought they were bad, eh? Well check this cunt out" I dread to think who we have to look forward to next. A convicted paedophile, perhaps.

[Lofty]

Ian Huntley promises to get brexit done.

[Ben]

We are definitely in the worst timeline, it seems the money men have decided to throw their weight behind the kinky MILF rather than a good politician who will enrich them further.

[Lofty]

Zahawi didn't actually resign in his letter did he? Just told the PM to do so.

Think he might actually go now.

He has libelled Corbyn though the clown.

[Yevrah]

He's not leaving immediately. :D As I said with Corbyn when he pulled that shit, shambles.

[Ben]

Raab as caretaker PM would be almost as bad.

[Giggles]

He's not leaving immediately. :D As I said with Corbyn when he pulled that shit, shambles.

That just means he’s not leaving at all and is banking on riding it out. Genius move.

[Ben]

He’s resigning as Conservative leader today though, so unless he can convince them to re-elect him, he’s duty bound to step down as PM when a new party leader is in place.

[niko_cee]

Bojo's 2010 comment on the dying days of Brown doing the rounds is quite funny.

[7om]

Just how bad is Raab? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a politician who looks more dead behind the eyes than he does.

[niko_cee]

He's basically just Starmer.

[Ben]

Starmer is inoffensive. Raab wants to fuck off human and workers rights. Chalk and cheese.

[Cord]

I think we can all agree it's eminently sensible to allow a man who required an entire government to resign from under him in belated disgust at his repeated incompetence and lack of morals before he became even passingly acquainted with reality to stay in post for another couple of months almost purely, as far as I can tell, because he's too broke to arrange alternate accommodation.

Proper serious country stuff.

[niko_cee]

Starmer is inoffensive. Raab wants to fuck off human and workers rights. Chalk and cheese.

Sounds like you've been on the TUC cool-aid.

He just looks like a standard corporate lawyer type to me, so of course he's going to be antithetical to anything other than an 80 hour week over a minimum of 6 days. Working Time Directive? Are you having a laugh?

[7om]

Why are they assembling a completely new portfolio of ministers when Johnson is on the way out? Shouldn’t someone step in and stop him and leave it to the new PM? Him appointing all these new people just looks like he’s staying for the foreseeable future.

[niko_cee]

Has anyone done a downfall thing of this yet?

[Yevrah]

Why are they assembling a completely new portfolio of ministers when Johnson is on the way out? Shouldn’t someone step in and stop him and leave it to the new PM? Him appointing all these new people just looks like he’s staying for the foreseeable future.

As far as I understand it staying on while the Tories sort their shit out could mean he's in power until October, which would be ridiculous.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He has no intention of resigning. Even resigning itself is a play to avoid resigning.

[Boydy]

He'll probably get us into a war with Russia between now and October to avoid it.

[Boydy]

He has no intention of resigning. Even resigning itself is a play to avoid resigning.
Looks like Dom agrees:
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[Yevrah]

Plot twist. Love it.

[Ben]

Sounds like you've been on the TUC cool-aid.

He just looks like a standard corporate lawyer type to me, so of course he's going to be antithetical to anything other than an 80 hour week over a minimum of 6 days. Working Time Directive? Are you having a laugh?

Raab is on record for years saying he doesn’t support the Human Rights Act. I’ve not seen one hint from Starmer that he’s in that boat.

[Lewis]

All I can think of today is that time Vince McMahon taunted a British crowd about one day having a Prime Minister of 'Pakistani extraction'. They booed the fuck out of it. Be careful Conservative Party.

[Lewis]

Dominic Raab is sound as fuck, but he's a bit if a sperg so probably best in a secondary role. Once again, anyone but the white women.

[Spikey M]

He'll probably get us into a war with Russia between now and October to avoid it.

I was thinking exactly this a couple of months ago when he flew over for a "surprise visit" in the middle of Partygate.

[niko_cee]

Raab is on record for years saying he doesn’t support the Human Rights Act. I’ve not seen one hint from Starmer that he’s in that boat.

Isn't that more likely a jurisdictional thing?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have first hand experience of Raab and he's a slimy toad. Not as thick as he comes across, but I wouldn't trust him an inch.

[Dave.]

Is it just me or does Raab look like Agent Smith from The Matrix films? Stick a pair of sunglasses on him and you've got a great lookalike there.

[Boydy]

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:lol:

[Smjffy]

Johnson or no Johnson, I sense things will get worse before they get better (or as better as could be).

What a joke the whole thing has been but the movie will be stellar.

[Lewis]

All I can think of today is that time Vince McMahon taunted a British crowd about one day having a Prime Minister of 'Pakistani extraction'. They booed the fuck out of it. Be careful Conservative Party.

Absolutely rekt (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=142903754279542) us.

[niko_cee]

:D

Amazing.

[Alex]

"Mr. Churchill's flipping in his grave right now!"

:D

[Spikey M]

Joke's on him, they've had a black bloke and his ARCH NEMESIS Ol' Donny Trump since then.

[7om]

Ben Wallace currently favourite to be next PM. Told ya.

[Shindig]

I've never heard of him which, given the ones I have heard of, might be okay?

[Ben]

Could be worse I suppose. He’s gone from a nobody to a great politician in the eyes of many because he said a lot of anti-Russia stuff which always goes down well.

[Lewis]

He looks like what I imagine Floyd to look like now.

[niko_cee]

:D

Harsh.

[Jimmy Floyd]

De-age him by about 20 years and that's not far off really.

[Lewis]

Shave it off lad.

[Yevrah]

Alastair Campbell on QT.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Shave it off lad.

My head's too big to shave it off. Prince Albert (of Monaco, natch) is my long term vibe goal.

[Lofty]

Ben Wallace's only achievement of note is racking up the largest bar bill in the history of the Scots Guards at their officer's mess. Not sure how that plays with the electorate.

[Dave.]

Is it just me or does Raab look like Agent Smith from The Matrix films? Stick a pair of sunglasses on him and you've got a great lookalike there.

Just me then?:moop:

[niko_cee]

No, I can see it, although not Smith, one of the other ones [although when I look it up I think I'm sort of imagining it].

[Lewis]

Alastair Campbell is a legitimate psychopath and it's basically a safeguarding failure to be platforming him now. If we were a serious country he would have been hounded into necking himself a decade ago.

[Boydy]

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Fucking hell, just go to Ikea.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I might be out of touch vis-a-vis the cost of living crisis (furniture division), and I am definitely not one of these performative northerners who complains as loudly as possible about the price of literally anything, but three grand for a mirror? lol.

[Yevrah]

He's the PM and it's not even 'his' flat (is it?), if he weren't an incompetent liar I'd have no problem with that spend.

[Don]

Would love to own one of these furniture stores based in some leafy London billionaire hotspot. The prices they charge and the margins basically require them to sell one item a month.

[Ben]

All very nice round figures. One hell of a profit margin.

[Spikey M]

Would love to own one of these furniture stores based in some leafy London billionaire hotspot. The prices they charge and the margins basically require them to sell one item a month.

No amount of money is worth all the simpering and bowing you'd have to do to the sort of cunt you'd get turning up every day.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Rishi's announcement video is proper vomit-worthy shit. I'm fairly convinced he's a front for BJP interests, in the same way that half the Labour party (and Peter Oborne) are a face for Pakistani intelligence.

[phonics]

Rebuild the economy (that I’ve been in charge of for years)

[Spikey M]

Reduce taxes (That I put up).

[Lewis]

His big Punjabi hooter makes the start of the video look like what that trainspotter mong makes.

[Smjffy]

I just threw up in my mouth.

[Spikey M]

I see Sir Beer Korma has been cleared, which is a shame. A double resignation shambles would have been quality.

[Manc]

Rishi is some manlet.