The little things in life that fuck you off

[Yevrah]

Between that (done properly) and deep faking it maybe impossible to tell what's reality in time.

[Giggles]

Don’t they have that thing where assistant can ring places and book things for you (if they didn’t scrap that like everything else they do) with fairly natural sounding AI doing the talking. Probably uses that.

Edit - Google Duplex.

[Lofty]

Probably an Indian using a this (https://www.sanas.ai/) and a shit VoIP with lag.
Indians taking all the robot's jobs.

[Baz]

Between that (done properly) and deep faking it maybe impossible to tell what's reality in time.

Have you seen podcast.ai ?

And entirely fictional podcast episode with Joe Rogan and Steve Jobs, created by AI.

[Spikey M]

Not sure where else to put this, but here will do because the BBC are cunts.

I'm in Turkey and want to watch Match of The Day but forgot that the BBC didn't allow this. Assuming I need a VPN, but I've never used one before. Anyone got any recommendations? Phone friendly please.

[Ben]

Mullvad. €5, no contract, no logs, completely anonymous.

[Spikey M]

Cheers, I'll have a look.

[Giggles]

You’re on holidays and you want to watch todays match of the day? One of the grimmest Saturday lineups since the sport began in 1992.

[Spikey M]

There are better options available, but the kids are asleep and leaving them to it went out of fashion when the McCann's went out for Tapas. There are an alarming number of Germans here too.

[Lewis]

Gutted about iPlayer. Hope you can at least get your full English tomorrow morning.

[Spikey M]

Gutted about iPlayer. Hope you can at least get your full English tomorrow morning.

I also used toilet paper instead of my hand earlier. Proper Little Englander.

[Spikey M]

Mullvad. €5, no contract, no logs, completely anonymous.

Internet is too shit for streaming. :happycry:

Can someone live-post me a blow by blow please?

[Danny]

I also used toilet paper instead of my hand earlier. Proper Little Englander.

Did you try the 3 seashells?


Internet is too shit for streaming. :happycry:

Can someone live-post me a blow by blow please?

Keep an eye on Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/

should be up soon and wouldn’t have to live stream it.

[Ben]

Did you try the 3 seashells?.

What a film. :cool:

[Giggles]

On my way home from a job this evening I got a pizza from a place dodgy enough looking that I should have known better. I’ve been up 4 times in the last two hours with exploding arsehole and I’m afraid to sleep :uhoh:

[igor_balis]

On my way home from a job this evening I got a pizza from a place dodgy enough looking that I should have known better. I’ve been up 4 times in the last two hours with exploding arsehole and I’m afraid to sleep :uhoh:

Feel your pain, I gambled on an Asda deli counter classic the other day. It was like 8pm and had been reduced to 30p so prob sat in questionably refrigerated conditions for hours. I also drenched the chips in some scotch bonnet sauce. Was rotating between lying on the sofa in my dressing gown watching YouTube and pissing out of my arse (not on the sofa)until about 5am.

[igor_balis]

Still enjoyed the pizza though and will almost certainly make the same mistake again if I see one reduced to below a quid.

[Giggles]

The same way I’ll probably get a kebab from the same place later in the week as it’s so much handier than anywhere else.

[Boydy]

https://i.imgflip.com/40j3nw.jpg

[Lewis]

Feel your pain, I gambled on an Asda deli counter classic the other day. It was like 8pm and had been reduced to 30p so prob sat in questionably refrigerated conditions for hours. I also drenched the chips in some scotch bonnet sauce. Was rotating between lying on the sofa in my dressing gown watching YouTube and pissing out of my arse (not on the sofa)until about 5am.

He's right into his Scovilles this lad. Asks for specific sauces in restaurants knowing they won't have it. Tabasco? Go on then I'll just use half the bottle!

[igor_balis]

Yes lad. Apparently pepper spray is about the same scoville rating as a Carolina reaper so if you could grab me a bottle next time you're preparing to murder prostitutes I'd appreciate it mate, saves awkwardness when the gimp in Wetherspoons tries to fob me off with sriracha!

[Spikey M]

Turkish night last night, so +1 for the pissing out of my arse crew.

[Don]

Stick to sheperd's pie, lads.

[Spikey M]

Your mums pie has taken out more than a few lads, lad.

[randomlegend]

Stick to sheperd's pie, lads.

I'd have thought you'd be against having your prospective sexual partners removed from the pool.

[Don]

Those two efforts are so shambolic :D

[Disco]

It makes no sense either, half of middle eastern cuisine starts with greasy mutton of some sort.

[Spikey M]

And we're back to Taz's mum again.

[randomlegend]

And therefore Taz's sexual partners.

[Shindig]

Taxi firms that mix your booking with someone else's.
Taxi firms that use long-dead shops as landmarks.
Bus timetables post-covid. They're merely a suggestion.

2 hours later and I'm finally home.

[Ben]

Is "on the weekend" actually grammatically correct or is it another Americanism that's crept in? I'm noticing it more and more but I was sure us proper exponents of the English language used to say "at the weekend".

[igor_balis]

On the weekend I can just about live with but if proud Brits start using the singular form for bands and football teams I'm joining Veritas.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm sure I've already started hearing it creeping into football. A dying sport.

[niko_cee]

Isn't the singular form actually the correct way in English 'Manchester United is' etc? I'm sure I was told this when I moaned about the Australian coverage of 'The EPL' [ugh] years ago. Still obviously sounds horrid.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Aston Villa is a football club.
Aston Villa are winning 2-0.
CORRECT ^^^

Aston Villa are a football club.
WRONG ^^^

Aston Villa is winning 2-0.
NAPALM REQUIRED ^^^

[Baz]

Man U is my team

[niko_cee]

Aston Villa is a football club.
Aston Villa are winning 2-0.
CORRECT ^^^

Aston Villa are a football club.
WRONG ^^^

Aston Villa is winning 2-0.
NAPALM REQUIRED ^^^

Where does Man United is 6th in the ladder after round 12 sit?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Where does Man United is 6th in the ladder after round 12 sit?

Somewhere between Trump's 6 January coup, and the Trail of Tears.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I know multicultural Britain and our new prime minister, etc, but these pricks doing fireworks for hours until late on a Monday night can fuck right off.

[Disco]

On Saturday a friend of mine referred to the whistle as the 'buzzer', I almost threw him out.

[Yevrah]

I know multicultural Britain and our new prime minister, etc, but these pricks doing fireworks for hours until late on a Monday night can fuck right off.

They're still fucking going off round here.

[Baz]

Realised my Steam library has FM12 to FM23. I've legally owned every version of the game since CM3 so I guess I just didn't activate them on Steam.

Anyway, yesterday, out of curiosity I checked the prices of Steam keys for the games earlier than 2012. For some reason 2009 and 2010 are about £60 each. 2011 was less than £3.50 though. Figured I might as well buy it cos as previously covered on here, I love squandering money.

The key didn't work, saying it had already been claimed. Created a ticket with Eneba which needed three specific screenshots, and the key was replaced. Also didn't work. Now raised another ticket. For a game I won't even install. Shouldn't have bothered.

All worth it for the Reddit upvotes when I post a screenshot of FM11 to FM23 in my Steam library though. :baz:


Actually I've just checked Mike's Steam library and he has 2009, 2010 & 2011 in his, so I bet he activated our copy on his account, being the eldest and all, and I just played those ones via his account. Was a different way of life back then, eh!

Maybe I'll borrow a screenshot off Mike for those Reddit upvotes...

EDIT: Mahow skipped FM12, pass it on.

[Ian]

Are Eneba one of the iffy ones funding credit card fraud? If so then, well, y'know.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Realised my Steam library has FM12 to FM23. I've legally owned every version of the game since CM3 so I guess I just didn't activate them on Steam.

Anyway, yesterday, out of curiosity I checked the prices of Steam keys for the games earlier than 2012. For some reason 2009 and 2010 are about £60 each. 2011 was less than £3.50 though. Figured I might as well buy it cos as previously covered on here, I love squandering money.

The key didn't work, saying it had already been claimed. Created a ticket with Eneba which needed three specific screenshots, and the key was replaced. Also didn't work. Now raised another ticket. For a game I won't even install. Shouldn't have bothered.

All worth it for the Reddit upvotes when I post a screenshot of FM11 to FM23 in my Steam library though. :baz:


Actually I've just checked Mike's Steam library and he has 2009, 2010 & 2011 in his, so I bet he activated our copy on his account, being the eldest and all, and I just played those ones via his account. Was a different way of life back then, eh!

Maybe I'll borrow a screenshot off Mike for those Reddit upvotes...

EDIT: Mahow skipped FM12, pass it on.

I think that's the year I took to the seas as a pirate.

[Shindig]

My CM/FM route is spotty.

CM2, CM2 European Leagues, CM00-01, CM01-02, FM 2005, FM 2013. That's it. Part of me wants to check out 2005 again before they settled on the stuff they've been pumping out for the last decade.

[randomlegend]

Realised my Steam library has FM12 to FM23. I've legally owned every version of the game since CM3 so I guess I just didn't activate them on Steam.

Anyway, yesterday, out of curiosity I checked the prices of Steam keys for the games earlier than 2012. For some reason 2009 and 2010 are about £60 each. 2011 was less than £3.50 though. Figured I might as well buy it cos as previously covered on here, I love squandering money.

The key didn't work, saying it had already been claimed. Created a ticket with Eneba which needed three specific screenshots, and the key was replaced. Also didn't work. Now raised another ticket. For a game I won't even install. Shouldn't have bothered.

All worth it for the Reddit upvotes when I post a screenshot of FM11 to FM23 in my Steam library though. :baz:


Actually I've just checked Mike's Steam library and he has 2009, 2010 & 2011 in his, so I bet he activated our copy on his account, being the eldest and all, and I just played those ones via his account. Was a different way of life back then, eh!

Maybe I'll borrow a screenshot off Mike for those Reddit upvotes...

EDIT: Mahow skipped FM12, pass it on.

I've got them all from 2009 to 2022 except 2011.

[Baz]

Are Eneba one of the iffy ones funding credit card fraud? If so then, well, y'know.Oh? No idea. I’ve sorted my Gamepass from there previously without problems. Anyway they’ve refunded me and I’ve just got it from Gamivo instead. Worked first time. :)


I've got them all from 2009 to 2022 except 2011.
Fill your gap: https://www.gamivo.com/product/football-manager-2011 (Don’t use Top Gun Gaming.)

[Ben]

I don't feel like I'm older than others on here but my history is somewhat more aged. I had CM2 right through to FM08, then FM12 and FM13. I got the demo of a newer one (I want to say 17) but it had jumped the shark for me by that point.

[Baz]

I had CM97/98 on a dodgy "Blobby (https://archive.org/details/blobby48_cracked)" disc that my Dad got from work (and previously a dodgy copy of CM on Amiga). CM3 was the first time we bought it legit and haven't missed a version since.

Funny how 01/02 remains king, by a laughable distance.

Christ seeing that list of games on Blobby 48 is a nostalgia overload.

[Ben]

Funny how 01/02 remains king, by a laughable distance.

Especially because you can edit the fuck out of it. One little notepad file patched to the .exe and the player development issues are fixed. Shame FM23 doesn't have that capability.

[Ian]

I think after 2008 or 09 I realised what a scam buying it every year was so and went down to every other until my last one, 2015.

[Boydy]

I had CM97/98 on a dodgy "Blobby (https://archive.org/details/blobby48_cracked)" disc that my Dad got from work (and previously a dodgy copy of CM on Amiga). CM3 was the first time we bought it legit and haven't missed a version since.

Funny how 01/02 remains king, by a laughable distance.

Christ seeing that list of games on Blobby 48 is a nostalgia overload.
Wasn't 97/98 one you could install and then you didn't even need the disc?

[wullie]

I've got 12 to 23 in the Steam library along with five Touch versions I didn't realise were there. One year I got it 'free' along with every Sega game available on Steam so I've got a big old list of things I've never given a look at. I assume you can't pass on games you haven't started but if you can, anyone who fancies 10 Warhammer games that all appear to be the same is in luck.

[Baz]

You can do family share. Basically you swap login credentials and login to each others account on your own respective computers, activate Family Share, then log back into your own account and you can play each others games forever (but not at the same time), is how I understand it.

Me and Mike are gonna set it up soon. My Steam library has 339 games in. :wtf:

[Gray Fox]

Discord.

I've changed phone and obviously forgotten the password to my account. I did set up SMS recovery thankfully so I use that. Sends me a code to enter. I enter the code and error, we've now sent you an email with a link to click. I go via that and it gets me to the point of inputting the code again. Invalid code, please use one of your 2FA backup codes.
No big deal, I've still access to the desktop version so they must be in there. Ah yes there's a button to view the codes there so I click it.

Please enter password to view them...

[Boydy]

I have health insurance through work. Because we're a fairly early stage startup, it only got set up at the start of this month.

My shoulder's been sore recently so I was going to go see a physio. I realised instead of paying for it out of my own pocket I could probably get it through the health insurance. So I submitted a claim last week. Apparently because it was so close to the start date of the insurance, they need me to get my GP to sign a form to essentially prove it's not a pre-existing condition. Of course they do, the shyster fucks.

So I called my GP surgery about ten minutes ago to book an appointment. I'll have to print out the form and take it to him to get him to fill it in so I'll have to take a half day off work and go there (my GP is still back home as I never changed to one in Belfast because you have to wait about a month for an appointment in Belfast). But I can't get an appointment straight off back home these days anyway. You have to have a call with the doctor first. Fine, whatever. But then on the phone I'm told I'll have to call back in the morning because all the phone calls are booked for today. "That's okay, it doesn't have to be this afternoon, can you just book me in for a call tomorrow?", I ask. "No, we can't do that." What? You can't book me in for a fucking phone call tomorrow? I'm pretty sure you fucking could, you useless cunts.

So now I have to call tomorrow morning to sit on hold for god knows how long to be able to speak to the GP on the phone tomorrow afternoon at some point instead of them just taking a fucking booking now.

What is this kafkaesque bullshit.

It'd be easier to just go to the physio directly and pay for it myself but I don't want to let the insurance cunts get out of paying.

[Lofty]

The icing on the cake will be the cheeky cunts will have already adjusted your next premium even if you don't claim now.

[Boydy]

Work pays for it, not me so I'm not arsed about that.

[Don]

That's just state of NHS now, innit. BUPA do me solid for any claims, they cba with looking to jew you in my experience.

[Giggles]

A claim generally won’t kick your premium in the same way car insurance or something does anyway.

[Lewis]

Well, well, well, well, well... Private health insurance. Nothing's too good for the workers.

[igor_balis]

Prob a good thing on balance, but I think I'm gonna have to knock drinking completely on the head. I'd always had intermittent bouts of Asian flush when I drank certain things/too much, but I've been getting full tomato face after half a can recently, with associated itchiness and generally feeling washed out and headaches and shit.

[Spikey M]

The Oxbridge communist having private health insurance. :harold:

[Giggles]

Only a mong wouldn’t have it in fairness.

[Yevrah]

The Oxbridge communist having private health insurance. :harold:

Somewhere on the spectrum of turning a labour voter into a tory one that, you'd imagine.

[Pepe]

My shoulder's been sore recently

Stop jerking off so much lololol.

[Boydy]

Well, well, well, well, well... Private health insurance. Nothing's too good for the workers.
Nothing is too good for the workers, you're right.

The Oxbridge communist having private health insurance. :harold:
Yeah, my work pay for it. It's included, I didn't ask for it.

Somewhere on the spectrum of turning a labour voter into a tory one that, you'd imagine.

I wouldn't even vote for the current iteration of the Labour party if I had a vote in a constituency where they stand so I don't think there's any danger of me voting for the tories in my lifetime.

[Lewis]

You should have refused it, like when Henners used to make his work put his pension into ethical investments.

[igor_balis]

Somehow ended up following this absolute sket from cov on Snapchat years ago, and I love her stories where she's just talking about the 5 black men she shagged that week and talking about booking hotels to do loads of coke with her friends etc. Well I genuinely accidentally screenshoted with my drunk fat fingers while she was shaking her fat arse and got a shit load of voice notes shouting at me, as I tried and failed to convince her that I genuinely just mushed the keys by mistake.

[igor_balis]

To clarify, I don't think she's more of a sket cus she shags black men, it's just that she's one of those weird fetishising weirdos. She's basically


https://youtu.be/T6Wmw7-nEgs

[Offshore Toon]

Classic. :cool:

[Giggles]

No idea what a sket is, nor do I want to, but like fuck was it an accident.

[Spikey M]

You have the screenshot and yet here we sit pictureless. Disappointing.

[igor_balis]

No idea what a sket is, nor do I want to, but like fuck was it an accident.

Mate she posts videos of her fat arse every fucking day, why would I need to take a grainy screenshot.

[randomlegend]

Given she does that why would she care?

[igor_balis]

Given she does that why would she care?

I honestly have no idea. When she was talking about getting the bags in for her and her mate to get fucked up she posted a screenshot of the hotel booking confirmation, including her full name and the hotel name and room etc. I'm willing to consider that's she's just a bit of an idiot, and I speak with real authority on being an idiot.

[Lofty]

What the fuck is that music video :D

[Offshore Toon]

It's the white girl yardie, the girl with the tight pussy.

[Ben]

Work colleagues who email you then immediately walk into your office asking if you've seen their email and if you'd not mind replying to it ASAP.

[Pepe]

Women with male names. Mason, Harper, Riley, Hunter, Cory, Charlie. Fuck off.

[Queenslander]

Anyone for cheesy stuffing?

https://i.ibb.co/5xYPhRn/p-Iu-Hwgoadv-FZ5-G8g-Jb-Jjvt-Sa-Ez-J19-Vb-Cq5-Lf-H-SFtno.webp (https://ibb.co/3YfnmCM)

[Ben]

Forget the stuffing for a moment, a chicken roasted with a Marmite glaze is tremendous, so I imagine it's similarly good with your Vegemite.

[Queenslander]

I must try it then minus the cheesy stuffing.

[Boydy]

Women with male names. Mason, Harper, Riley, Hunter, Cory, Charlie. Fuck off.
All those names can fuck off tbh, male or female. (Assuming they're actually called Charlie instead of Charles, if it's actually Charles that can stay.)

[Spikey M]

Irish people don't get an opinion on names until they stop making up catfish names like "Sheblinoi" and lolling when people don't realise it's pronounced "Kate".

[randomlegend]

We had an Aoibhinn at uni. Pronounced Ay-veen obviously

[wullie]

My daughter's friend at school is Caoimhe, pronounced Keeva. There's going to be a lot of guesswork on the cards when she has a birthday party.

[Boydy]

You guys know Irish is a different language, right?

[randomlegend]

Give me a name in most languages which use the PROPER alphabet and I can make a good stab at pronouncing it correctly.

Irish they are just nonsense.

Tell your lot to sort themselves out Boydy. I'm not having it.

[Spikey M]

You guys know Irish is a different language, right?

And, just like the Welsh, they fucked it up.

[Ben]

Celtic languages are quite cool. They branched off on their own early doors and kept to themselves. We kept getting invaded so we've got all the Scandinavian/Romance/Latin influences.

[Giggles]

You guys know Irish is a different language, right?

It also doesn’t use the same alphabet as English.

[Ben]

Do you speak Irish? I work with a few lads from Donegal and they speak it amongst each other. It's pretty rare, as a first language particularly, isn't it?

[randomlegend]

It also doesn’t use the same alphabet as English.

Letters look the same innit.

[CJay]

Letters look the same innit.

There's no v or y or z or w (maybe a few others too), hence common combinations such as bh and mh.

I studied until the age of 18, but have never had to put it into practice since then.

[Spikey M]

Listen lads. Don't come in here with your reasons and knowledge, it's foreign and strange and scary. To paraphrase Taz, leave us to our Shepherds Pie.

[wullie]

We had an Aoife at work, before she got to actually tell people how you pronounce it my favourite guess I heard was OYFF

[randomlegend]

My brain tricked itself into reading Hermione as being spelt Hermoine (pronounced Her-moyn) for about the first four Harry Potter books.

[Giggles]

Letters look the same innit.

They look the same in an awful lot of languages.

[Baz]

I had the massive misfortune of being in the Trafford Centre at 11am. Amazing how many people seemingly can't stay silent without standing still. Weirdos.

[Gray Fox]

Discord.

I've changed phone and obviously forgotten the password to my account. I did set up SMS recovery thankfully so I use that. Sends me a code to enter. I enter the code and error, we've now sent you an email with a link to click. I go via that and it gets me to the point of inputting the code again. Invalid code, please use one of your 2FA backup codes.
No big deal, I've still access to the desktop version so they must be in there. Ah yes there's a button to view the codes there so I click it.

Please enter password to view them...

Had a light bulb moment with this. Went onto Discord on the browser and it logged me straight in. I thought well that must mean that somewhere my password is saved. Went into the passwords section of Chrome and copied the one down for Discord there into my phone app and bingo. We have sign in.

[Boydy]

Forgot to leave the fucking bin out last night. Cunts were there at the crack of dawn today, of course, so I'd missed by the time I realised this morning.

[Baz]

Always the way. When you put it out the night before they don’t come til the afternoon and Storm Jedward has twatted everything all over your street.

[Giggles]

Some cunt had put a bag into mine a few weeks ago when I left it out the night before.

[Baz]

I don’t have a problem with that to be honest.

[Shindig]

Aye, as long as it's not full when you want to put your own stuff in.

[Giggles]

Unless you pay by weight, which I do. I just fucked it in the ditch across the road, so hopefully they left some identifying details in it.

[Giggles]

I don’t have a problem with that to be honest.

Scummer.

[phonics]

Pay by weight? What?

[Disco]

They weigh everyone in the street and charge the fatties more, stands to reason they must eat more/make more rubbish.

[Shindig]

I knew a bloke who dumped his bags in the public bins on the street. If you're paying by weight, you could FIGHT THE SYSTEM by doing that.

[Ben]

I suppose in the middle of nowhere it will work fine. The system probably wouldn't function as well in Hackney.

[Jimmy Floyd]

When I walk down the road and cross the bridge from Surrey into the London borough of wherever it is (Richmond, probably) they put their rubbish out in open plastic tubs, rather than bins. Glad I live south of the river, or all the neighbours would know exactly how much cheese I get through.

[Lewis]

The flats round here don't have enough bins for the occupants, so people leave bags next to the bins, and seagulls/foxes tear them open. Throw a bit of wind in and half the town ends up looking like a favela.

[Disco]

I knew a bloke who dumped his bags in the public bins on the street. If you're paying by weight, you could FIGHT THE SYSTEM by doing that.

The local tip once tried to charge my dad to get rid of some bathroom tiles and he took them home and spent months putting a few in each regular bin bag, if they weighed his rubbish I reckon he'd have been using public bins for years.

[Giggles]

I knew a bloke who dumped his bags in the public bins on the street. If you're paying by weight, you could FIGHT THE SYSTEM by doing that.

I don’t want to fight the system, I want to just pay for my own rubbish.

[Giggles]

Pay by weight? What?

It’s hardly a mind blowing concept. The more rubbish you dump, the more you pay. Unless it’s recycling which is a fixed price for the year.

[Spikey M]

It's completely new to me. I don't think we have anything like that here.

How do they weigh it and know who to bill for each bin? Assuming they scan something and the hooks that lift the bin also weigh it?

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's Ireland, everyone knows who everyone else is.

[Giggles]

It's completely new to me. I don't think we have anything like that here.

How do they weigh it and know who to bill for each bin? Assuming they scan something and the hooks that lift the bin also weigh it?

The lorry scans and weighs the bin as it lifts it.

Edit - or yes, begorrah etc for Jimbo.

[Yevrah]

I've never come across such wizardry either, but when you think about it it's a much fairer system and a piece of piss to administer one would imagine.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Our local councils couldn't come within 100 miles of administering that.

[Giggles]

Yours is probably a lot cheaper because it isn't done. It's all privatised here (apart from Dublin city council). They all have cameras on the trucks too where you'll get a warning notification on the app with a photo if anything is picked up in the recycling bin that shoudn't be there.

[Ben]

We just get a naughty boy sticker on the bin and they leave the whole thing unemptied.

[Ian]

All the houses round is have four bins for general waste and then different sorts of recycling. The shared bins for our flats, however, only come in two varieties but are picked up by the same bin men on all the same days so round here at least the whole thing is clearly a bit of a sham.

[Baz]

On green bin (garden waste) days the bin men just pour the other sorted recycling containers (one for cardboard and glass, another for paper and another for plastic and tins) into the green bin anyway, before the lorry dumps it all in the back. Why waste our time?

[Giggles]

On green bin (garden waste) days the bin men just pour the other sorted recycling containers (one for cardboard and glass, another for paper and another for plastic and tins) into the green bin anyway, before the lorry dumps it all in the back. Why waste our time?

Like most climate shit, because we're forced to.

[Lewis]

Our local councils couldn't come within 100 miles of administering that.

They would pull out all the stops for bins. Remember them using anti-terror legislation to enforce the rules like some high New Labour parody bit?

[Raoul Duke]

We don't have binmen in the Netherlands. You have to walk your rubbish to a street bin a whack it down the hatch. Shambles of a country :moop:

[Lewis]

In theory there is a lot to be said for having a big bin at the end of the street, but only if they get emptied once a week, otherwise you end up like Brighton with an exploded landfill on every street corner.

[Raoul Duke]

It's mostly ok, but it's not well organised in parts. Like we have bin/paper/plastic nearby in one location but then glass is the opposite direction

[Kikó]

Most of the houses around me seem to have communal bins as well which are collected weekly. Except for glass which you need to find a bottle bin nearby. The homeless here are constantly picking into the bins because it contains free money with cans and some glass being worth a few cents.

[Giggles]

Most of the houses around me seem to have communal bins as well which are collected weekly. Except for glass which you need to find a bottle bin nearby. The homeless here are constantly picking into the bins because it contains free money with cans and some glass being worth a few cents.

You should send the servants out to hose the lower scum.

[niko_cee]

A real zinger.

[Giggles]

A real zinger.
It’s late

[Kikó]

I'm not really sure why you think I'm so rich. I've got a well paid job but so do many people on this forum. Not like either of my parents have a pot of cash - my dad's a glazer and my mum's unemployed. My grandparents were working manual labour jobs, I have no silver spoon.

[igor_balis]

You just have to accept your assigned TTH character, even if it's an exaggeration/fabrication. It's like wrestling, but better.

[niko_cee]

Just makes it all the worse how you laud it over the common folk now YOU MONSTER!

[Giggles]

I'm not really sure why you think I'm so rich. I've got a well paid job but so do many people on this forum. Not like either of my parents have a pot of cash - my dad's a glazer and my mum's unemployed. My grandparents were working manual labour jobs, I have no silver spoon.
You may not be rich, or have had any silver spoon, but you act like you have. There’s lots of big shots around the place but if you’re always looking down on people then there will never be anyone to catch you on the way back down to meet them.

[Kikó]

Sorry, need to get back hosing the poor. Please arrange a rendezvous with my pa if you want to discuss further.

[Kikó]

You may not be rich, or have had any silver spoon, but you act like you have. There’s lots of big shots around the place but if you’re always looking down on people then there will never be anyone to catch you on the way back down to meet them.

If you say so.

[niko_cee]

Profound shit.

[Giggles]

Profound shit.

Are you on the payroll?

[Lofty]

You just have to accept your assigned TTH character, even if it's an exaggeration/fabrication. It's like wrestling, but better.

Million Dollar Man, Keeks Diabase

[Waffdon]

We don't have binmen in the Netherlands. You have to walk your rubbish to a street bin a whack it down the hatch. Shambles of a country :moop:

Really? My biggest takeaway from Amsterdam the other month was the binmen still working at 10pm at night at the weekend. Unless they only pick up the rubbish in the main touristy bits.

[Spikey M]

my dad's a glazer

Malcolm?

[Offshore Toon]

I see both sides of the Giggles-Kiko flirting, but Kiko thinking it's about him being "so rich" shows the level of detachment.

[Disco]

Malcolm?

Doughnuts.

[igor_balis]

Just tentatively asked on the Zealand discord if people are still giving FM 22 suggestions. I get "yeah, if you tell us what you need help with", and notice I can only message every 10 minutes in that discord. I feel like Homer after asking your man if he's REALLY head of the kwik-e-mart.

[Kikó]

I see both sides of the Giggles-Kiko flirting, but Kiko thinking it's about him being "so rich" shows the level of detachment.

Tell me more crypto bro

[Raoul Duke]

Really? My biggest takeaway from Amsterdam the other month was the binmen still working at 10pm at night at the weekend. Unless they only pick up the rubbish in the main touristy bits.

Probably around the centre, but out where I live(d) they would just pick up the big communal bins. Nowhere I knew of had it's own bin

[Jimmy Floyd]

The office at work has been whizzed around and among the new things is a radio. Slightly annoying when I'm trying to work but that's not the main issue. The main issue is that it's 10.16am and I've already heard Maria Carey's fucking shit Christmas song twice. Why the fuck can't they play anything good? That song is fucking dogshit.

[Giggles]

Whatever station the accountant plays here is on a full blown Oasis buzz this morning. Champagne Supernova is the 5th in a row.

[SincereTheRebel]

I usually control the radio in my office. I put it straight on Kerrang. No messing

[Lofty]

Isn't there one that guarantees no repeats?

[Gray Fox]

Absolute Radio has no repeats between 9am and 5pm and plays a decent variety of stuff that should appease all. Problem being is if you have it on every day, you soon notice it's just the same set of songs on shuffle, but in a different order tomorrow.

We've a radio in our place and it sounds like Jim is being subjected to the hellish Capital or Signal 1.

We ended up having a voted on radio rota. Different station every day of the week.

[Ben]

Surely someone can just log in their Spotify these days.

[Gray Fox]

Yes, but then The Arab will undoubtedly decide he is the office DJ and it'll be his playlist.

[Ben]

Fair.

[Disco]

Ask them if they've applied for an entertainment licence.

[Offshore Toon]

If its not on Radio 6 or a decent local station then you work with mongs.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think it's on Heart or some similar purveyor of 2000s hits, interspersed with the blandest Christmas classics (already had 2x War Is Over as well).

Cry me a river.

[Ben]

Times like this I enjoy having my own office (in fact, there's never a time I don't), which on a construction site is incredibly rare.

[phonics]

6Music is the best radio station and its not even close

[Dquincy]

Times like this I enjoy having my own office (in fact, there's never a time I don't), which on a construction site is incredibly rare.

Site manager? QS? Contracts Manager?

[Danny]

Home for the first time in a while and went to ADSA so I could pig out on shit I haven’t seen in forever. What the fuck happened to boost bars? Bought a pack of them and they were tiny.

[Shindig]

Maybe you just got got taller?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Most chocolate bars can only be seen under a microscope now.

[Shindig]

I heard from a bloke at work that the industry's reeling from a cocoa after the Chinese got really into chocolate.

[Lewis]

It's the government sugar targets bullshit. Companies can't 'reformulate' their products without ruining them, so they just make them smaller.

[phonics]

Lol fuck off. They make them smaller because it increases their profits.

[Lewis]

Most other things haven't shrunk and increased in price at the same rate as chocolate over the years (at least not until very recently), so obviously sweets are where the real margins are. There was meant to be an updated report published last year, but I can't find it, so have a read of the government report (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/709008/Sugar_reduction_progress_report.pdf) on case studies (appendix four). Under Mondelez, which owns Cadbury, who make the Boost bars in question:


Portion size reduction of seven multipack bars sold in discounters, independent and high street stores was completed, products ranged from 25.6g to 54.4g before, compared with 20g to 40g after reduction. The portion size of two multipack bars sold in grocery channels was also reduced, ranging from 38g to 54.4g before, compared with 32g to 47g after reduction... Prior to the 2015 baseline, as part of the chocolate industry's commitment to ensuring all single serve chocolate confectionery products are under 250kcal/serving, Cadbury Bar and a Half products were delisted.

I'm sure they're happy to squeeze a bit more money out of things, but they're not just making them smaller off their own bat.

[phonics]

And yet the companies profit margins have gone up since the Sugar Tax. Weird.

[niko_cee]

Isn't that because they just charge the same for the now smaller bar? That doesn't alter [or provide] the reasoning for the shrinkage in itself.

[Spikey M]

Fuck chocolate, crisps shrinkage is where we should be focusing our outrage.

[SvN]

I had a bag of Walkers Baked a few days ago, and there were probably less than 10 crisps in there.

[Baz]

I once saw on Secret Eaters where a woman poured one bag into another before taking the well-stocked bag into the living room to eat. At the time I was like lol fat knack or what, but everytime I have a bag of crisps, I wish I’d done it.

[phonics]

I had a bag of Walkers Baked a few days ago, and there were probably less than 10 crisps in there.

That'll be all the sugar in there. Definitely not profiteering.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's either profiteering or it's maintaining a profit margin in the face of rising costs, depends on your approach to business.

They've probably found that people prefer product shrinkage to price rises.

[Ben]

I'll happily pay £1 for a real size Snickers over 60p for the modern day version that would pass for a Mini that you'd get in party bags as a kid.

[Manc]

Any adults consuming milk chocolate should be put on a list.

[SvN]

I'll happily pay £1 for a real size Snickers over 60p for the modern day version that would pass for a Mini that you'd get in party bags as a kid.

https://assets.sainsburys-groceries.co.uk/gol/6831990/1/640x640.jpg

[phonics]

It's either profiteering or it's maintaining a profit margin in the face of rising costs, depends on your approach to business.

They've probably found that people prefer product shrinkage to price rises.

It's not like this happened 2 weeks ago. It's been going on for years. It's profiteering.

[Spikey M]

It's not as if you can only profiteer by shrinking your product. There will be all sorts going into these decisions, profiteering included.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Costs are always rising. Even if the ingredients stayed at the same level (which they probably don't), fuel and labour are basically always going up, but the price people are willing to pay for their chocolate will rise much more slowly.

Nestle, if you're reading this, my wage demands are very reasonable. I just need a full villain-style lair in the Swiss mountains on top.

[wullie]

Irn Bru was ruined by the sugar tax, but now as the Xtra one tastes the same as the regular one you save on the calories. My hips look fabulous now, thanks Boris

[Foe]

Irn bru xtra is great.

I still have a can of original recipe irn bru that went out of date in 2019. Going to be a wild day when that finally gets busted open.

[phonics]

Costs are always rising. Even if the ingredients stayed at the same level (which they probably don't), fuel and labour are basically always going up, but the price people are willing to pay for their chocolate will rise much more slowly.

Nestle, if you're reading this, my wage demands are very reasonable. I just need a full villain-style lair in the Swiss mountains on top.

Why are people so willing to defend corporations. They’re not your friends.

“Five years ago a regular packet was 35g — 1g more than today — and cost 42p. Squares — also made by Walkers — have risen from 42p to 55p while the bags have dropped from 35g to 27.5g.”

The price has gone up. The amount of stuff in the bag has dropped. It’s profiteering. Simple as.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Walkers Squares aren't a human right. Either pay what Lineker wants for them, or buy a product you consider better value.

[Boydy]

Why are people so willing to defend corporations. They’re not your friends.

“Five years ago a regular packet was 35g — 1g more than today — and cost 42p. Squares — also made by Walkers — have risen from 42p to 55p while the bags have dropped from 35g to 27.5g.”

The price has gone up. The amount of stuff in the bag has dropped. It’s profiteering. Simple as.

What is this quote from?

[phonics]

‘They’re not profiteering they’re simply adjusting to rising costs’

*Shows proof they are*

‘Doesn’t matter. Cut out the crisps then fatty’

The conservative mindset in action.

[phonics]

What is this quote from?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3181034/crisp-rip-off-uncovered-as-food-firms-chip-away-at-our-favourite-treats-so-much-hula-hoops-dont-even-fit-on-your-fingers-any-more/amp/

[Danny]

Maybe I should have just cried into the pack of remaining bars rather than complain :lol:

On another note mint clubs are still quality.

[Ben]

Walkers Squares aren't a human right. Either pay what Lineker wants for them, or buy a product you consider better value.

You're close to crossing the line here mate. Salt & Vinegar Squares are an unbelievable snack. Well, two packs are an unbelievable snack nowadays.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If 'profiteering' is attempting to make a profit on the goods then yes, they're profiteering.

[Pepe]

How dare they.

Just stop crisps.

[Spikey M]

Why are people so willing to defend corporations. They’re not your friends.

“Five years ago a regular packet was 35g — 1g more than today — and cost 42p. Squares — also made by Walkers — have risen from 42p to 55p while the bags have dropped from 35g to 27.5g.”

The price has gone up. The amount of stuff in the bag has dropped. It’s profiteering. Simple as.

I don't think anyone has said that price hasn't gone up or that the serving hasn't shrunk, so I'm not too sure what you think this proves?

The same change in price and serving could also be in response to increased cost of production and distribution.

To prove that this is "profiteering. Simple as" you would have to show that their profit margins mirror the cost cut of shrinkage and the price increases. Which it obviously won't. Because nothing is that simple.

It wouldn't surprise me if they've managed to nab some extra profit along the way, but if you were to check (which I won't) I imagine they're largely tracking inflation. Just spreading it between shrinkage and price increases.

[phonics]

If 'profiteering' is attempting to make a profit on the goods then yes, they're profiteering.

10 minutes ago you were saying the brave corporations were trying to do all they could in the face of rising costs. As soon as that’s disproven you’ve decided to pose the argument as ‘any profit is evil’

It’s pathetic. Just say ‘I was wrong’ it’s not that hard.

[phonics]

I don't think anyone has said that price hasn't gone up or that the serving hasn't shrunk, so I'm not too sure what you think this proves?

The same change in price and serving could also be in response to increased cost of production and distribution.

To prove that this "profiteering. Simple as" you would have to show that their profit margins mirror the cost cut of shrinkage and the price increases. Which it obviously won't. Because nothing is that simple.

It wouldn't surprise me if they've managed to nab some extra profit along the way, but if you were to check (which I won't) I imagine they're largely tracking inflation. Just spreading it between shrinkage and price increases.
I already mentioned that their profits have increased earlier in the thread. In that time they also relocated to Switzerland for massive tax breaks. It’s just real life. Corporations aren’t your friends and sucking them off is such a weird way of looking at the world.

[Spikey M]

I already mentioned that their profits have increased earlier in the thread. In that time they also relocated to Switzerland for massive tax breaks. It’s just real life.

And proved that it's related to this in particular? Not expanding into new markets? Rolling out new products, etc?

[Jimmy Floyd]

10 minutes ago you were saying the brave corporations were trying to do all they could in the face of rising costs. As soon as that’s disproven you’ve decided to pose the argument as ‘any profit is evil’

It’s pathetic. Just say ‘I was wrong’ it’s not that hard.

They're not trying to 'do all they can', they're trying to make money. Which is why they exist.

Wikipiedia describes profiteering thus:


Profiteering is a pejorative term for the act of making a profit by methods considered unethical.

If so, then to be profiteering on crisps they'd have to be lying about what goes into it.

[Spikey M]

People just want this stuff to be black, white and simple. Evil big business skinning the poor man. But it's nonsense. These companies run tight margins and try to deliver profit and keep customers happy. If they don't, then the share holders and the customers go elsewhere. It's not just a case of "GAHAHAHAHAHA I'm stealing 2 crisps a year from your multipack and pocketing the extra 2.3p per kilogram because all of our costs magically stay the same GAHAHAHAHA"

[Foe]

To be honest, I was more upset they changed the shape of the mint aero, than the fact there’s definitely less of it.

Also RIP ricycles. I’d pay £4 a pack for them, just bring them back :(

[Foe]

And for what it’s worth, I would imagine if I was to get a job in an industry such as that I’d be doing these exact cost optimisations.

The world has evolved technologically and that’ll help them run simulations to find an effective price point and portion size.

[SvN]

We should have a thread on food items that don't exist anymore. I'm still devastated they discontinued Heinz beef soup.

[phonics]

They're not trying to 'do all they can', they're trying to make money. Which is why they exist.

Wikipiedia describes profiteering thus:



If so, then to be profiteering on crisps they'd have to be lying about what goes into it.

This entire topic was started by Lewis saying the sole cause of chocolate bars being smaller now is because of the sugar tax. That's absolute bollocks and always has been. I've pointerd that out over and over again across multiple industries and now we're here.

And just FYI Walkers have had several ads banned for being misleading so yeah I'm also right on that one. Sorry.

[Boydy]

This entire topic was started by Lewis saying the sole cause of chocolate bars being smaller now is because of the sugar tax. That's absolute bollocks and always has been. I've pointerd that out over and over again across multiple industries and now we're here.


That's not what he said at all. He said sugar targets and didn't say it was the sole cause. There is no sugar tax on food, that's only on soft drinks.

[igor_balis]

I definitely hate how they fucked up all the fizzy drinks. Instead of removing all the delicious sugar from them to protect the absolute pondlife who drink 4 litres a day, they should have let me do an outreach campaign explaining the benefits of being all poncy guardian reader about it, and keeping them as an occasional treat.

[Yevrah]

Corporations aren’t your friends and sucking them off is such a weird way of looking at the world.

I feel your pain, this was particularly bizarre to me during the pandemic. Any criticism of or aspersions cast over the companies involved was met with the moronic chimes of BIG PHARMA!!!! LOL WUT AH BIG PHARMA!!! and even more bizarrely by the same people who'd be going in on McDonalds etc in a heartbeat.

[Pepe]

I don't think that corporations are my friends or anything, but also lol at 'corporations are EVIL!!!!'. If they want to cut their portions in half and increase their prices tenfold then so be it. I can always choose to not buy their shit.

[Lewis]

Why are the chocolate companies all-in on profiteering when loads of other things have (until recently) barely increased in price in a decade?

[Kikó]

Big confectionary have got big pharma on payroll

[Shindig]

I've seen Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I know exactly what Cadbury is up to.

[Ben]

McDonald's could literally cut their menu down to double cheeseburger and chips and charge £10 for the privilege and all the wankers will still back up onto the roundabout waiting in the drive-thru queue. They know their audience.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You should see the London ones on Friday and Saturday nights. They're like a cultural mecca for black and wannabe-black youth. Not sure they even order anything. They just want to be there.

[Shindig]

Maybe that's where the drugs live?

[Kikó]

phonics

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Maybe I should have just cried into the pack of remaining bars rather than complain :lol:

On another note mint clubs are still quality.

Speaking of clubs. I picked up some Salted Caramel ones yesterday (never seen them before) and they're banging.

[Ben]

Gold bars are the king of things in the small rectangular biscuit category.

[Spikey M]

Nope. Orange Clubs.

[Foe]

Nope. Orange Clubs.

That’s not even the best flavour of club bar.

For shame.

[Giggles]

Nope. Orange Clubs.

Have a long hard look at yourself.

[Giggles]

Gold bars are the king of things in the small rectangular biscuit category.

Chocolate butter biscuits.

[John Arne]

Man, I miss Club biscuits.

[Lofty]

I just got accosted by a charity mugger whilst on my way for a shit, no mean feat in my own home. Annoyingly he had something in his hands the same solour as Evri's livery so I opened the door and then had to politilely wait for his spiel to get to the money part and claim I am skint.

[Spikey M]

I just say "no thank you" and close the door.

[Ben]

"I'm going for a shit mate" should have scared him off a return visit. At 6'8" or whatever your shits must be massive.

[Boydy]

I just got accosted by a charity mugger whilst on my way for a shit, no mean feat in my own home. Annoyingly he had something in his hands the same solour as Evri's livery so I opened the door and then had to politilely wait for his spiel to get to the money part and claim I am skint.


They have always done it. Have you moved recently Boyd? They target the low income neighbourhoods apparently.

:harold:

[Spikey M]

:D

[SvN]

We have a Jehovah's this morning, which I haven't had in years. I didn't realise they were still doing it. Felt like a proper 90s throwback, where it was so common that my mum put up a sign on the door saying "No Jehovah's Witnesses please".

[Ben]

At least those folk do cult properly.

[Boydy]

We have a Jehovah's this morning, which I haven't had in years. I didn't realise they were still doing it. Felt like a proper 90s throwback, where it was so common that my mum put up a sign on the door saying "No Jehovah's Witnesses please".
I got a handwritten letter from them a while back. I assume they switched to that during covid times. Must be back on the doors now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Beats the fake handwritten letters I get from Lib Dem council candidates. Sign me up.

[Lewis]

:harold:

DONNED Beano lad.

[Lofty]

It was more the fact I was on my way for a shit at the precise moment he was at my front door (visible through the window). I live in Leyland, it's all low income neighbourhood here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Should have let out a fart whilst making eye contract.

They'd have ran away. The wetter it was the faster they'd have run.

[randomlegend]

I got a handwritten letter from them a while back. I assume they switched to that during covid times. Must be back on the doors now.

We got one of those too! It was like two A4 sides. Completely fucking insane.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Continuing on the theme of shit radio. Heart (which is always on in my office) continually plays this song 'Never Gonna Not Dance Again'. It sounds old to me but in fact is brand new and by Pink, released in November. It's just been played for the third time since 8.30am today, as it is every day.

I thought well, this must be a MASSIVE current hit to be getting this much airplay, so looked up the charts. Now, having looked at the charts (with years old songs like Tom Odell - Another Love being in the top 20), it seems that the charts don't work in quite the same way that they used to, presumably thanks to streaming and the effects of crossover media. However, having been released just a month ago, this Pink song is currently charting at 75, and peaked some weeks ago at 46. In other words, it's not a big song at all.

So why are Heart playing it so relentlessly? Does it just speak to their particular (tragic) audience, or have the record company paid them £100 billion to keep pushing it in the hope that the top 40 may yet happen? Or is chart position no longer any guide at all as to how popular a new song is?

[phonics]

Chart position is worthless now since it’s based on streams so the top 30 or so is just every song on the new Taylor Swift/Drake/BTS album.

[Disco]

So why are Heart playing it so relentlessly? Does it just speak to their particular (tragic) audience, or have the record company paid them £100 billion to keep pushing it in the hope that the top 40 may yet happen?

Is is not the other way around, don't radio stations licence music from the record companies/whoever? In which case new shitty music is much more affordable than anything anyone actually wants to listen to/go out and buy.

[Spikey M]

Chart position is worthless now since it’s based on streams so the top 30 or so is just every song on the new Taylor Swift/Drake/BTS album.

If I remember rightly, when Ed Sheeran released his last album he temporarily occupied every spot in the top 10. :D

[Shindig]

Taylor Swift managed that a couple of months back during here whole, "I'm going to re-record all my songs because of legal reasons' phase.

[niko_cee]

If I remember rightly, when Ed Sheeran released his last album he temporarily occupied every spot in the top 10. :D

They changed the rules didn't they, so 1 artist could only ever have 3 in the top whatever? I read this on the BBC recently for some reason or other. Good old Ed got round it though as it didn't count 'collaborations' so he still had 9 in the top 30 or something daft like that at some point.

[igor_balis]

The only chart worth a damn these days is Mike Reads heritage chart on talking pictures TV. The latest releases from the likes of dollar and the corgis, arbitrarily ordered by the former radio one DJ himself. Here's the latest one:

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/600d7e223c156d341b5493e5/1670141031157-PTZ5TV0NRBA3DDZR3MIX/Heritage+Chart+-+Week+124+-+04+December+2022.jpg?format=1000w

Quality, that.

[igor_balis]

This is t'paus latest effort


https://youtu.be/QYONpp0r-A8

[Jimmy Floyd]

The only chart worth a damn these days is Mike Reads heritage chart on talking pictures TV. The latest releases from the likes of dollar and the corgis, arbitrarily ordered by the former radio one DJ himself. Here's the latest one:

Quality, that.

I used to get this retweeted into my twitter timeline for reasons too byzantine to go into. At the time it was hosted by Read's online radio vehicle which he subsequently seemed to fall out with / get sacked from. Even then, I assumed it was based on some kind of actual sales data. Is it really just the great man himself (who I have met, lol) putting things in the order he fancies? Spectacular if so.

Limahl, ex lead singer of Kajagoogoo, had a very long run at the top at that time.

[igor_balis]

I used to get this retweeted into my twitter timeline for reasons too byzantine to go into. At the time it was hosted by Read's online radio vehicle which he subsequently seemed to fall out with / get sacked from. Even then, I assumed it was based on some kind of actual sales data. Is it really just the great man himself (who I have met, lol) putting things in the order he fancies? Spectacular if so.

Limahl, ex lead singer of Kajagoogoo, had a very long run at the top at that time.

I think there's a voting system used but I'm pretty sure he has the final say, lol.

[Gray Fox]

Took the oldest child to her first concert in Manchester. Not ideal time of the year but the bands we wanted to see only come over every few years and both were on the same card so we went.

Train there was half an hour delayed and when it did turn up I was basically able to take a single step in from the door and that was it for room. Crammed in like sardines. Coming back was a little better. Reasonably full seating wise, but then we hit Stoke. As we pulled in there was a group of 20+ women all travelling together who piled onto our carriage and there was the comical situation of them taking up the entire walkway from one end to the other.

God speed to anyone travelling by train as it gets closer to Christmas.

[Lofty]

No-one uses the trains anymore though due to covid, that's why we need to destaff the rail and reduce services :D

[Shindig]

At least it turned up. The last night bus I waited for decided to cancel at short notice.