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[Yevrah]

That team is an abomination.

[SincereTheRebel]

That is bonkers

[Gray Fox]

So after having the steams open we finally got to dropping the Icons and then they said there'd only be 5 Icons per streamer. Given each guy had 30k+ viewers I knew it was dead in the water.

Turns out it was exactly as expected. I opened my Champs rewards and managed to get Skriniar and Costa and nothing else. All the hype has kinda deflated.

Gerrard looks to be 1.3m, which isn't too bad. David Villa is about 170k, but I probably wont do that one. Timo Werner is 430k and looks very good, but is he the best one to go for.

All in all again the players you want are way too expensive. Bale looks godly but 2m? Nah. As a Liverpool fan Gerrard is a big temptation for me, but I'll be doing his loan first to see how he plays.

[Yevrah]

Looking through now I'm distinctly underwhelmed.

The objectives are tedious and realistically what am I going to do with a CB Ibrahimovic that I can't link and who can't really defend? I also can't use any of my MLS Flashback players to get him, so frankly I have better things to do in life than spend hours grinding that and not having fun just to put him in an SBC. Gerrard is crap for a Prime Moments Icon (and I make you right Fox that we're going to be in April before the big guns land which I not likey) and the player SBC's aren't that appealing.

The Mega Pack FUT09 SBC is nice, but the pack weight is so low. 3% chance of a FUT Birthday player from an Ultimate pack, so I could see myself opening the 120 packs I have and not pulling a single one. But given that this is probably the last promo before TOTS I may hammer through them all next weekend on stream.

[Yevrah]

They need to give all special cards Icon based links and I'd be all over this stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That is a great idea.

[Yevrah]

I'd have it so special cards soft link to everyone and Icon cards strong link to everyone.

[Gray Fox]

This year has confirmed to me how EA think.

I've mentioned it before but there is a team improvement curve that the vast majority are stuck to. They want your team and coins to progress along this curve as the game goes on so that when a promo like this arrives, you're mostly looking at players that you want in your team. This will then lead you to getting involved.

The outliers to this curve are either people who have had disgustingly good pack luck as I have this year, or people like Yev who save pack mountains for the right promo.

We get the Icons they want us to have. For example, I can guarantee if I noted down the teams I faced this weekend, any Icon I see will be from an SBC we've already had in December. You see a lot of Ballack, Raul and Rijkaard. Crespo, Nedved and Butragueno too.
I can honestly say I've never faced Ronaldinho. I've faced R9 a total of 3 times. Pele maybe twice. You get the point. This is coming from a guy approaching a thousand games online. They don't want people who don't put thousands into the game to get a massively better team/players than the rest.

We're all on that curve and it's leading us right to TOTS. When TOTS hits or just before we'll get the top Icons, but then you'll be coming up against others on the same curve.

It's a bit annoying but the way to break it is to not play their SBC game keep your coins and don't fall into it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The in game stats for the major position change players are dogshit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Decided to do a quick single player draft to play tomorrow:

https://i.imgur.com/fXQ2VkE.jpg

I imagine that Van Dijk will be horseshit but I finally get to use TOTY Ronaldo and prime Eusebio (I'll probably start with Salah up top and then swap him and Eusebio with VVD coming on late).

[Yevrah]

I think VVD is going to feel like a bus.

Just hit 45k in Squad Battles, so that should be Elite 1 done for the week, which is nice as I'm away until Sunday now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His in game stats are horrific.

His only use will be coming on late and getting on the end of crosses. Coming in at 510k right now which is laughable for someone so limited.

[SincereTheRebel]

Lets be real here. Regardless of ehat team you have, it makes little diffetence do your overall rank. First WL i played, i finished gold one and 27 weekend leagues later with TOTY KBD and a gold Ronaldo, im still finishing gold 1. If i come acrosd a player better than me, he can use any card below 83, and i will lose.

[The Merse]

Went and got OP Lothar via the SBC, along with LW Mbappe and RW Griezmann and replacing Marcelo with FS Mendy. The end goal is 88 Vieira in for Kondogbia, which as I have 890k left and still around 2000 players, is something I could probably do now, and then eventually I’ll aim to upgrade Cavani to any TOTS he might get if higher rated, along with bringing back TOTY Marcelo in the long, long term.

[The Merse]

Lets be real here. Regardless of ehat team you have, it makes little diffetence do your overall rank. First WL i played, i finished gold one and 27 weekend leagues later with TOTY KBD and a gold Ronaldo, im still finishing gold 1. If i come acrosd a player better than me, he can use any card below 83, and i will lose.


And during those 27 weekend leagues, your opposition also upgraded their teams, never mind that a lot of the weaker players stopped playing.

[John]

The value of that VVD will be in pulling him back to CDM.

The CAM Douglas Costa interests me greatly.

[Danny]

Did Brandt because he was closing in on 100k.

https://www.futbin.com//19/squad/6287722

Probably going to get Alaba to run that for some fun games. Zuber and Ziyech will be on 7 chem.

Packed IF De Vrij to offset about 25% of the cost.

[thommo]

Good shout Danny, Brandt is tons of fun to play with. Seriously good all round.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That Vidal looks fucking quality.

[The Merse]

I can get him in on full chem to replace Kondogbia (who is on 8) too. I’d rather he had M/H, but it’d be a bit saving on Vieira and leave me a good 800k left over.

Griezmann RW makes me wish I’d done FB Juanfran at the time.

[Danny]

Absolutely no way for me to use him, so I wont be getting involved but that card looks very good.

[SincereTheRebel]

Dont do cards that dont fit your team. Ive done zlatan, tevez and mendy and none of them ever make starts. Bench warmers.

[Trancemeister]

Can't remember when I last pulled something higher than 84.

[Gray Fox]

Very first shot I hit with Gerrard on his debut.

https://i.gyazo.com/0eebf1268c89fa9984bfe0c3ddf89d65.jpg

[Danny]

I didn’t apply a chem style but he felt somewhat clunky for me. He scored with his first tough too though

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Does he feel like he's playing on ice?

[Danny]

No but his dynamic image has been updated

https://i.redd.it/ld7zdywlqxn21.jpg

[Gray Fox]

I'd ban you if I could.

[Danny]

:lol:

I knew I shouldn’t but I laughed at lot when I saw it on Reddit. I figured it was going to be and actual update/funny glitch

[Gray Fox]

He does feel clunky and noticeably slow. Even in the just 2 games I've used him.

However going forward his passing is spectacular and he will score if left unattended inside 25 yards. His positioning seems great too, always ready to receive the ball. Were this released in the back end of 2018 I'd do it no questions asked. But in a little over a month we'll be in May and everyone will have TOTS cards that will blast past him.

One thing I do dislike about these Icons is you don't get a significant enough discount for the Icon submission. It should be 50%+ of the requirement considering you're putting in 1m+ to most Icons.

Still, I now line up like so: https://i.gyazo.com/887a0eaed01c6838545ec8a848bb22af.png

I changed it from the 4-5-1 as if you're not the home team your opponent can catch your team in mid-shift to what you want to play. It also has everyone in almost the right place for my kick offs.

My issue is I feel like I've not upgraded in a long time. Other than Arias, Messi, Mbappe and Neymar, the rest are on 300 games played for me or more and the only reason Mbappe and Neymar aren't is because they've been bought and sold at times.

I'd like to upgrade the full backs. But I'm a little cornered in by who I can afford. I've 450k to hand and a fair wad of high rated untradeables I'd happily shove into an SBC.
The good thing for me is my LW, RW and CAM spots are completely interchangeable thanks to the Icons. I could play anyone in those positions. I've been really looking at that Werner because of this.

[The Merse]

Tempted to trade in a couple of icons for Ultimate packs via the OP Icon SBCs. It seems clear that EA have picked up on people hoarding Icons, expecting more needed for the OP ones, and instead are running with this multiple 89/90 requirements instead. I have 4 stored - Baresi (never played), Keane (will never play again, hasn’t since Xmas), Nesta and Campbell (both in B team playing 3 or 4 games a week and will be kept doing that until they go into the last Icon I want (if I can afford it otherwise).

It’s annoying. I’ve got 2.5m worth of Icons there and wish I’d kept the coins now.

[Gray Fox]

It's definitely snide the way they gave the impression Icons were a big part of other Icon SBCs. At the time I didn't do them because I thought Icons would drop in price, thus leading to future SBCs being cheaper, but they've properly turned the screw on people who did them.

Tonights offering should be interesting. They've shown so far that they like to price these SBCs about 200-400k or so below the price of one on the market. Given I'm 99% sure we're not getting R9, R10, Vieira, Pele, Maradonna, Gullit, Cruyff, Maldini, or Eusebio until TOTS hits, it leaves some interesting options. I'm not including Henry with those as even though I'd put him here, I don't believe EA see him as the same. Other than that we have the following:

Blanc
Best
Roberto Carlos
Henry
Lineker
Van Basten
Rivaldo
Figo
Yashin
----------------
Deco
Hernandez
Inzaghi
Laudrup
Lehmann
Litmanen
Moore
Schmeichel
Scholes
Shearer

At the time of typing, all above the line are on the market over 1m, whereas the ones below the line are below. Some considerably so. This is significant because we are now getting to the position where the Icon coming is going to be good value, or is going to be able to get in your team. It does however show we still have a little bit of shit to get out of the way.
As good as the likes of Scholes or Inzaghi etc were in real life, they don't translate well into game. I reckon we see Moore or Blanc tonight.

[Gray Fox]

We get Figo and a decent looking priced CAM Willian.

Big news is we get an 80+ rare gold 3 player pick upgrade SBC. I've done about 10. Hamsik, Zlatan, Miranda, 2 IFs and a couple 83s.

I'm really well set to do an Icon in the 1-1.5m range now and these birthday SBCs are looking very tempting. Especially Werner.

[Danny]

Did the SBC and pulled that Utrecht CB thats going for like 16k :cool:

[Yevrah]

That Figo upgrade is a disgrace again.

[SincereTheRebel]

That Figo upgrade is a disgrace again.

Like wtf. How is it even logical to put that SBC out?

[SincereTheRebel]

The 86-88 ratings can fuck off. How is the upgrade more expensive. SMH

[Gray Fox]

It's calmed down a bit, but the standard is 1.4m from scratch. The upgrade way is 1m almost bang on, so you are saving technically. But fuck me you're asking someone to pay 1 million coins to put the card up by 1 rating.

[The Merse]

Tonight has been mental. Started 10-2 at 10ish, and have faced nothing but god tier Elite types, all playing low depth but constant pressure, with red Messi's and Ronaldo's all over the shop. I've won 1 in 5 since.

[SincereTheRebel]

As i have Figo, i wouldnt exspected to put more than 300k more

[Gray Fox]

Bowing out at 14-2 after a weekend of sick kids at home.

I ended up completing Werner for the cost of 1 86 Kimmich. The rest was in the club already.

He's a hell of a lot of fun. I am noticing the lack of 4* skills, but he makes up for it by being so clinical. In the just 4 games I've used him he's scored 7 goals, including some from stupid angles.

https://i.gyazo.com/fa69277ff3002b34311d0e426a6980dc.png

He also beats Gerrard on fastest goal in both ways. Gerrard took a touch with his, yet Werners first goal for the club came with his first touch inside a minute.

[SincereTheRebel]

I understand what they are doing with the upgrades actually. The prime needs to drop in price drasticlly. But Zanetti upgrade which has been out for a while now, is still more expensive than the non-upgrade one.

[Yevrah]

If a decent icon drops this week I'll hammer all the packs this weekend coming.

[SincereTheRebel]

All icons are in packs already?

[Gray Fox]

Yeah every advertised Icon is in packs. Actually pulling one is another story. That's the one thing on FIFA I've left to pack. He means an SBC though.

How Merse pulled the same prime Icon within a couple of days of each other is beyond me.

[Yevrah]

Bad RVN is the only one I've packed so far.

I'm waiting until an Icon SBC for one I want so I can whack all the untradeable duplicate cards I pull into it.

[thommo]

I can't believe some of the pack pulls across TTH this year.

87 Aubameyang two weeks in has been my best pull all year in terms of price (sold for 280k).

[SincereTheRebel]

I got varane really early who i sold for like 200k. Got kante gold and kante fut champs. Got untradable pogba too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

NIF Ronaldo when he was 2.5m is probably my best.

Best untradeable TOTY Varane.

Not that great.

[The Merse]

Vieira in, after selling 600 players.

So, taking this Weekend side into TOTS -
https://i.ibb.co/SsHhYPv/Screenshot-2019-03-25-at-15-18-50.png

& this fun time B Team for every other DR game -
https://i.ibb.co/9T7f6Yr/Screenshot-2019-03-25-at-15-21-52.png

[Gray Fox]

That first team is disgusting and I never want to play you again.

[The Merse]

It’s been a grind.

It’s the result of all the effort, but I felt I need to do it now so I can relax a bit now. I’d like to add a TOTS Lala and bring back TOTY Marcelo before the game is truly over, but it’s a slog as it is now. The meta changing so many times as a result of it being based on mechanics which were horrible when abused and subsequently were nerfed makes this fifa one of the most infuriating. The most recent shift to school yard football - a front 4/5 piling onto the counter, all in central areas as opposed to actually needing to be in space, then back in place in and around their own penalty area, joining the gang that never left it, almost as soon as you win it back, makes for a pretty awful game. It’s one I won’t engage in, like the OP mechanics, I’ll just play a bit less and be relatively worse off in my results and rewards etc as a product of that.

[thommo]

Jesus, both of those teams are pretty insane. Anderson Talisca has been hit and miss for me so far, but when he hits, he's insanely fun to use.

I had a decent WL this time around, ended up 14-7 and it could have been better if not for two last minute winners conceded. Griezmann AGAIN just tearing it up, 29 goals and 10 assists in 21 games.

[Gray Fox]

I know what you mean Merse. The game was going great in December, but then they started changing what we'd be getting based on us getting prepared for upcoming promos and deliberately withholding stuff.
On top of that the game has changed how you need to play a good 3 times since the start. I remember coming in here when I first got on the game raging about not being able to score and everyone scoring from 25 yards. Instead of toning it down they've made timed shots from outside the box useless, so whats the point? Then we seemed to switch into the crossing meta, but that has died off a little and now we're to the drop back, lightning counter meta.

I've managed to remain consistent throughout but it's not been easy. At this point I've started looking at playing FM again instead, but this may be my only year to afford a proper top tier Icon without smashing money into it, so I'll carry on for now.

[thommo]

Flashback Esswein, and Prime Moments Blanc.

That Esswein brings back memories, I might do him just for fun.

[Gray Fox]

Low finishing, composure and stamina on that card as well as 3*/3* makes it a pass for me. It doesn't look as cheap as it should either.

Blanc is a different story. No TOTW needed in the 80+ squads and top one of 87 rated makes my head say 800k-900k.

[Yevrah]

Against my better judgement I've played 4 games on the Ibra objective and it's genuinely the worst thing in the world.

Game 1: 1-0 up and comfortable until my opponent brings on Carniball Hulk, Carniball Talisca and another player who has no right being available for this. I go 2-1 down after toiling and keeping him out for a while. I have no such players on the bench as I've gone into it in the spirit with which is was intended, but even worse as the second goes in the game freezes, crashes back to the menu and I have no time to respond.

Game 2: Go 1-0 down fairly early on to more Carniball based bollocks. Game freezes again and it's another loss. Obviously no quit while you're ahead and get the win glitch going on here.

Game 3: Bring on FFS Eder Miliatao, Carniball Weah and De Ligt almost immediately, but the guy is shit hot and beats me comfortably. Obviously he's using the OP Carniball players again, but he'd have beaten me anyway, so no real complaints here.

Game 4: 2-1 up and doing well, but the connection suddenly becomes as bad as it's possible to be without the game crashing out. My opponent doesn't seem to be affected and scores a winner in the 110th minute to take it.

I applaud EA for giving us cards to play for (even though they're a bit crap), but the way they've implemented getting them is so unbelievably shit.

[Yevrah]

That Esswein is overpriced toss and Laurent Blanc, despite being potentially good value as far as Icon SBC's go won't be worth whatever coins (or equivalent) he'll cost to get.

Another couple of cards that serve no-one, with better and more affordable alternatives already on the market.

[thommo]

I've just got on the Xbox and seen that Esswein needs 4 IFs to complete. Not a chance I'm bothering at that price, a card of that quality should be the same price the 89 UEL Falcao SBC was.

[Yevrah]

160k for Esswein.

3 star weak foot, M/M, bad Attack Positioning, Finishing and composure (admittedly the first two are less of an issue with chem styles).

Or you could just buy any of these:

https://www.futbin.com/19/players?page=1&xbox_price=10000-160000&position=CF,ST&sort=xbox_price&order=desc

EA have run mad.

[Gray Fox]

Considering it's a direct competitor to Werner, I don't get it. He's more, he's worse and he's untradeable.

It seems to be 900k for Blanc, which is a very nice price point if you don't already have an Icon defender. My issue with it is that TOTS is a smidge over a month away(mid-April if you believe some rumours) and you're going to have the tops leagues with defenders that will do the job just as well, but be cheaper and tradeable. The one thing this Blanc card does have is the links to everyone.

I could bring him in and it would allow me to change my back line around, but as before, is it worth doing so, so close to TOTS?

[John]

Someone should be losing their job for letting that Esswein into the game. He's never been good in reality and he was only rated about 78 on the iteration in which he was overpowered, so what exactly are they flashing back to?

[Yevrah]

I could bring him in and it would allow me to change my back line around, but as before, is it worth doing so, so close to TOTS?

My view would be definitely not.

900k will get you any TOTS defender you want, no?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Someone should be losing their job for letting that Esswein into the game. He's never been good in reality and he was only rated about 78 on the iteration in which he was overpowered, so what exactly are they flashing back to?

75.

But he was used by everyone, IIRC in that version only pace mattered.

Biabiany, Miyachi, Oduro, Pitroipa, Martins, Wynne (the 90+ pace CB from the MLS) etc were all kings.

[Gray Fox]

My view would be definitely not.

900k will get you any TOTS defender you want, no?

Hard to judge the price of them, but they'll be more common than TOTY and also not as good, so I'd suggest roughly half the value. Especially looking for those ROTW league bargains.
For example I reckon Robertson is a TOTS lock and would be a card I want, but I'd expect him to come in between 300-500k.

[Gray Fox]

I did a draft before because I was bored and ended up with this:

https://i.gyazo.com/5ff95dbf17f5b2885cfa243b857c141c.jpg

It was a lot of fun and reminded me why I love the attacking 4-3-3. High scoring games all over. I ended up winning the final 8-7 after extra time. It reminded me again just how good CR7 and Best were. Scholes was also surprisingly good.
It's also shown me again that I could use getting Ferland Mendy FFS into my team. Not that I'd know how to go about it. But that's one of the most fun drafts I've done.

[Yevrah]

Haven't done a team update for a while, so here it is.

https://i.postimg.cc/R06prZDy/team.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

With UCL Dembele and SBC Allan on the bench.

Sold a couple of players from the first team recently to maximise the coins and now up to 1.35m and still have 11 Toni Kroos' in the club, plus a fuckload of higher rateds and untradeable. I haven't checked, but barring the icon I reckon I could do one of the Prime Icon Moments SBC from what I have in the club. I like the look of LB Salah, so may cash in on Marcelo and bring him and a version of VVD in, but then I do love Marcelo and will get him back on 10 chem if I decide to keep him.

Stats at the moment:

https://i.postimg.cc/7ZCj49CK/Stats.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Could of course sell Mbappe, but he's phenomenal, so I doubt I will.

[Gray Fox]

This probably wont affect most in here but we have another Icon SBC on the way, probably on Friday. This one will reward you with any mid-tier Icon. Irritating the trading community has started buying up in preparation and those flashback cards are shooting up in price, as are any SBCs that require 84 and up squads.

Depending on the price this could be a goer. Say 400k and it's not much more than you would pay for an Icon off the market to submit, but you get the probably slim chance of taking one of the top dogs.


Yevrah how does that SBC Allan play? His standard card was in that draft I posted above and I brought him on at LCM every game and still loved him. He's still probably my favourite CDM that isn't an Icon.

[Yevrah]

I was just looking through the SBC's and wondered why they had risen so much.

Haven't played many games with Allan, but I like him a lot. He just seems to be everywhere and that's with no chem style and 5 chemistry off the bench.

[Gray Fox]

I don't see the Icon SBC being overly popular as no doubt they'll overprice it and it'll cost 600k or something.

I also can't believe you'd even consider selling Mbappe.

[Yevrah]

Only because I've used him and the proceeds will more than likely fund an entire top level Prime Moments Icon SBC from scratch.

I won't be using him at all, ever again, in 8-10 weeks anyway.

[Danny]

OP Shearer and FUTBday CAM Peresic

[Yevrah]

Think I'll do Shearer's loan, with a view to getting him this weekend.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

2*/3* is so off putting for me.

[Yevrah]

Yep.

It's a travesty that he's got a 3 star weak foot.

I suspect I'll use his loan, not like him and that will be that.

[Yevrah]

Shearer is, unfortunately, awful.

Played three legendary squad battles games with him in place of Raul in the team posted upthread. Scored 14 goals in total, but only one from Shearer and that was from a corner. He's so unbelievably immobile (even with an Engine) that he just kills attacks and can't control the ball well enough to get in or keep any sort of space.

[Gray Fox]

What I really wanted was to get home and see they've given us an overpriced Perisic and Shearer.

His Icon card does him no justice at all. I also got him as my loan from the weekly objective which is a disappointment.

[The Merse]

Might rinse the entire stock of <82 rates in my club through the various upgrades to 82-87 and 80+ picks tomorrow’s. There’s little value in them anymore and MM is hardly rewarding enough this year to worry about.

[John]

I made a common Ligue 1 team to win Naldo purely so I could recycle him into the SBC for Willian, but in the process I found out that Jovetic might be the best value striker in the game. It took me eleven games to win the seven necessary for Naldo, most of them against people with very good MLS teams. Jovetic got twenty four goals and thirteen assists, which is just silly.

[thommo]

I've been attempting the Naldo objective the past few nights, and in every occasion where I have gone behind, the game disconnects after 5-10 seconds. Now obviously my opponent is doing this to get the win towards the objective, but it is fucking irritating having multiple contracts and my time be used up just because some wanker has scored first and abused the system.

I've only got 2 wins so far, and on this evidence, I won't even fucking bother with Gervinho and Ibra.

[SincereTheRebel]

Online single matches and friendly seasons should not deplete contracts or stamina.

[Yevrah]

I've been attempting the Naldo objective the past few nights, and in every occasion where I have gone behind, the game disconnects after 5-10 seconds. Now obviously my opponent is doing this to get the win towards the objective, but it is fucking irritating having multiple contracts and my time be used up just because some wanker has scored first and abused the system.

I've only got 2 wins so far, and on this evidence, I won't even fucking bother with Gervinho and Ibra.

Same disconnection bollocks happened in the few games I had a go for.

[Trancemeister]

Really like this Birthday Sané card. Might actually buy him.

[Yevrah]

Yashin. Another icon no one should touch.

I see the upgrade is a monstrous piss take again as well.

This game is grinding to a halt at breakneck speed.

[SincereTheRebel]

The uogrades makes zero sense at all. What are they trying to accomplish? There must be something coming thst will drop icon prices dramatically.

[Yevrah]

210k+ for Doumbia as well.

Jesus fucking Christ.

[Yevrah]

The uogrades makes zero sense at all. What are they trying to accomplish? There must be something coming thst will drop icon prices dramatically.

There's nothing that could come that would reduce the price of the upgrades to make them worthwhile.

[Gray Fox]

I've used him in draft and he's actually quite incredible, however for the exact same price you can buy TOTY De Gea.

The De Gea is also taller and better at kicking and you could re-sell him. We are however slowly ticking away the shit ones they could give us.

[Yevrah]

Just to be clear, that's what I was getting at and not comparing him to Shearer in the shit stakes.

[Gray Fox]

If he were down around 400-500k I'd probably be doing it now(a goalkeeper with a hat!).

[The Merse]

Would be interesting to know why they’ve changed up the skill points in Divisions. I’ve been dropped into the top end of D3 this morning.

[SincereTheRebel]

Would be interesting to know why they’ve changed up the skill points in Divisions. I’ve been dropped into the top end of D3 this morning.

Maybe the player base has dropped off. I was 1980 skill spoints this week. Where does that put me now?

[Gray Fox]

They've only gone and readjusted the points required for being in each Division and significantly so. As an example, I'm on 2370 points, which was 1 win outside of Division 1 promotion.
With the new system Division 1 is now 1900 points. I feel like they've done this to bunch everyone back up again, but also to stop people like me, who pretty much don't play Rivals but because of the points from WL manage to pick up another set of good rewards without effort.

Speaking of rewards, nothing in this weeks for me. I'd have loved Depay as a red as I used to have him as a super sub at the start of the game. That 94 Hazard is tempting me however.

https://www.futbin.com/19/compare/341/20050

He compares very well to Messi, ending up better in almost every way. Significantly so in stamina and pace. Shooting wise there's not too much in it, though Messi takes that one with better finishing and long shots.

If I sell Messi, I'd have to get Neymar out to fit the LW position in, which would bring me back about 750k, to add to the 600k I already have. This has me wondering if I should do that(I used to use Hazard as CAM and do just as well) and bring in Hazard, or perhaps sell Messi and replace him with one of my plethora of attackers that sit on the bench. I could then sit on the coins until an Icon or TOTS hits.

[SincereTheRebel]

I got the RED Depay for my WL reward. He does not fit in my team though and will be bench fodder

[Gray Fox]

Best
Roberto Carlos
Henry
Lineker
Van Basten
Rivaldo

----------------

Deco
Hernandez
Inzaghi
Laudrup
Lehmann
Litmanen
Moore
Schmeichel
Scholes


The likelihood of something shit tonight is high. I do believe we're due a birthday card today. We haven't had a full back or anything from La Liga yet. Maybe a fullback Ramos?
Not expecting any miracles with the Icon either. Deco or Scholes would be my bet. Both are about 800k on the market too so if they came in cheaper than that it could be a decent investment.

[Gray Fox]

Okay for some reason we got CB Lukaku, but MALDINI.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You can now redeem WL entry up to 24 hours after the start.

Also, I've just noticed that Pogba got an IF yesterday, 92 HL :drool:

[Danny]

Actually l kind of tempted to do that Lukaku for shits and giggles.

[Yevrah]

If he could defend I'd have been all over him.

[Danny]

He has good defending and physicals for a forward, inc his stamina. Could work well on the prese but it will all go to waste if he is a useless lump overall

Someone explained the way his face stat works on Reddit. Not sure if it’s legit but if it is it’s quite interesting

https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/b6m2jm/futbirthday_lukaku_ingame_stats/ejlbw7n/

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It sounds like what they'd do, the cunts.

[Danny]

If you put a chem style on him on the Futbin app (not sure on the site) his defending gets a -12 :lol:

[Gray Fox]

Decided I would see how tedious Gervinho and Naldo would be to get(I've 0 interest in another Zlatan).

Gervinhos 8 wins was done in 9. The one being a guy scoring from kick off and leaving instantly. I seemed to go 2-0 up in every game and they'd quit.

Next was on to Naldo and his 7 wins took 10 games. During the first run I seemed to face people with Ligue 1 teams who only had Zlatan/Talisca as subs. The Naldo run I came up against Serie A teams. I had 5 people bring on CR7. Thankfully 2 of them did it too late to get back into it.


It seems Maldini is coming in at 2m on the nose. He's probably the best defender on the game but for me I couldn't quite do it yet. I already have TOTY Ramos and POTM VVD as a partnership which is fantastic, but I'm playing an 82 rated FUTMAS card at RB. So I think there needs to be fixed before I spunk 2m on a CB.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I didn't realise that Utrecht SBC is still mental and that price ranges were updated.

Just found a silver CB in my club from Utrecht and he went for 15k.

[Gray Fox]

We should be getting the "any middle Icon" SBC tonight.

There seems to be an expectation the Icons are ramping up and we'll get some massive ones to end the event, but I'm not so sure on that. At least we have seen the very top end ones are likely to cost 3m or so.

[SincereTheRebel]

There are currently 25 middle icons currenty valued above 500k out of the 73 icons in the game. Im sure it will be way overpriced.


:sorry:

[Yevrah]

How long are the FUT Birthday players in packs for?

I'm up to 162 now, so think I'll push for 200 and open them all tomorrow evening.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im sure it said 3 more days when i signed in yesterday. It came out last Friday for 10 days?

[Yevrah]

That would make sense. Cheers Sincere.

[Gray Fox]

Henry is here and looks expensive as fuck.

We also have an EoE Robben who looks brilliant but also very costly.

Milinkiovic-Savic as a RB, Boateng as CDM and Guarin as our objectives.

[Yevrah]

Mid tier icon too.

Which doesn't look dreadful, depending on what the market does.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

20 IF's and an Icon for Henry? Woof.

[Danny]

Two 87s on that Robben. Jesus. I’ll pass.

[Gray Fox]

I reckon 700k for Robben. Does look crazy good though.

As for Henry, I reckon 3m. I really dislike the way they've had all those cheap Icon SBCs to trick us into thinking we'll need multiple, then banged out duplicate high rated squads to jack the price up.
Henry has 2 x 86, 2 x 87, 2 x 88 and an 89. I think it's too much.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Middle icon is coming in early doors on Futbin at 387k which isn't too bad.

[Yevrah]

Middle icon is coming in early doors on Futbin at 387k which isn't too bad.

There must be something wrong, that's much much cheaper than I thought it would be.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There must be something wrong, that's much much cheaper than I thought it would be.

Even cheaper on the Xbone too.

I think it's because you only need 65 chemistry so you can use GK's and shit anywhere with very few links to do it.

[Yevrah]

Mid Tier icon going up and up all the time.

Henry is in at 3.5m. :nono:

Think I'll open the packs to build a mid tier icon tomorrow and then keep if he's good, or whack into another icon if he's shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'll be going hard on the 80 picks and 82-87 SBCs to make the Mid Icon.

[Gray Fox]

Well that's pretty much eradicated my hopes of getting a top Icon. If I cleared my club out for one now I reckon I could get about 1.5m of one done.

Even Merse might struggle with this one.

With that being said, I may well sell Messi and just set about fixing the holes in my team. Tonight has been quite disheartening.

[Yevrah]

Putting an overpriced low end icon SBC out which people did assuming multiple icons would be needed for the high end icon SBC's really was a scummy, scummy move on EA's part.

[Yevrah]

Toni Kroos is now up to 70k and I have 10 of him on the tradepile.

1.2m in the bank, 2m if I sell Marcelo to bring in LB Salah instead and 172 packs to open.

Decisions, decisions.

[Yevrah]

Oh and the Rare Players Pack weekly objective is easy to do at the moment as everyone is fielding crap squads in Rivals to complete the other objectives.

Just knocked in 15 goals towards it in three games.

[Danny]

Robben coming in at over 800k :lol: fuck off EA.

Saves me almost 40k in Alaba atleast. He will slot into my Bundes/Ajax team no bother.

[Gray Fox]

This was not the week to push me into Division 1. :moop:

85+ players are just going to rocket up for the rest of the game now.

[Yevrah]

It'll level out a bit when TOTS lands.

[Gray Fox]

I've just seen the SMS and Boateng cards require goals in rivals wins, not just games. That's going to be hell. 10 games each as well.

The CSL card also looks good, but they've not barred Icons or any other leagues. Expect insta subs of all your most hated players.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, I’m not bothering with any of those. It just isn’t fun.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

13 82-87's:

1: Viviano 83
2: William Carvalho 84
3: Hernandez 83
4: IF Schulz 84
5: Jarstein 82
6: Gueye 82
7: Rugani 82
8: Sarabia 83
9: Robertson 83
10: Rashford 82
11: Villa 82
12: Guardado 82
13: Strootman 83

What absolute shit.

[Yevrah]

4 packs in and that’s looking very good.

[Danny]

Thinking it might be time to clear out the decent cards I have stacked while they are high.

[Danny]

330k for the mid icon SBC isn’t too bad. About the same cost of the worst one.

[Yevrah]

It's over 400k now.

Ignore the 215k on Futbin as that's down to using the objective Fut Birthday cards.

Still, I think it's a good deal. If you're going to do a moments icon SBC and you don't have an icon going spare (as I don't really) then you're paying max 100k more to get a shot at a more than usable one and if you don't hit that you've got yourself a card for the SBC.

I was expecting it to cost 600k+

[Danny]

:face: just looked again. Showing at 185 on ps. Clearly someone fucking around. Was not that low when I posted.

[Gray Fox]

Messi and Neymar sold, so I'm now at 1.4m with 2 holes in my team.

I'm probably going to bring CR7 back because fuck it. However I thought I'd look at what else that kind of money could buy me.

Players of interest within my price range are Baby Cruyff, FFS Vinicius Junior, FB Mbappe, Prime Maldini, TOTY Varane, OP Desailly

Players just above my price range are Middle Vieira, Middle Cruyff, Baby R9.

I also notice TOTY De Bruyne is only another 400k away.

[SincereTheRebel]

I shoukd have TOTY KDB by next week.

[Yevrah]

Futmas KDB is up there among my favourite players in FIFA19, so his TOTY cars must be unreal.

[Yevrah]

https://mixer.com/Chemical_Locust

I'll be opening the packs today, but will be building some more first.

[Yevrah]

Opening them now, but it's put all the good ones at the front.

[Yevrah]

Right, change of plan. It's far too tedious building the packs as and when duplicates land so I'm gutting the club.

[Yevrah]

25 Player Pick Packs built and a shit load of 82-87 upgrade ones.

EDIT: All packs opened so far have availed:

Boards 12
Walkout 1
Hero 1

[Yevrah]

25 player pick packs:

1 x 86 Szczesny
5 x 84
5 x 83

Not great, but that'll be the first segment of the icon there or there abouts.

[The Merse]

Gray Fox

FB Mbappe is incredible. You’ll enjoy him. The extra dribbling and physical is noticeable.

Might concentrate on getting OP Henry in for the rest of the game. Reckon I need another million and some decent pulls over the next few weeks. This weekend is unlikely to produce much as I’m still in the process of moving, so expect to only have a few hours tomorrow to get some games in.

[Raoul Duke]

I'm going for the right-back SMS for my Serie A team. Think he'll be mega - he's an absolute unit, 4* skills and WF.

Also attempting to finish up the Serie A league SBC but will probably end up having to spend a billion coins on shit Empoli midfielders to get it finished :moop: 12/20 down so far

[Danny]

Ended up selling quite a few of my high rated regular golds while they are up.

Hoping they settle back down a bit after the mid icon sbc is gone but really there aren't any sbcs I am desperate to do

[Yevrah]

Figo as my mid-tier icon.

Which while I can't complain about, I can't really fit him in the team, but don't want to bin him. Grrr.

[Yevrah]

The packs went to shit after I opened the mid-tier icon one, which is a shame as I had about 30 of the best ones left.

Still, not a bad haul all in all. And FUT Birthday Meunier will go down nicely.

[Gray Fox]

Could have been worse I suppose. I'd defo bin him considering you have TOTY Mbappe in his spot.

I've been playing only Rivals so far in the hope of getting these objectives done, but good God it's like pulling teeth. I have 5/10 on SMS and 4/10 on Boateng.
I should be nearly done, but I've had 1 person quit after only Raul had scored and I've conceded 3 late goals, including one in the 95th minute to draw games after having scored with the required players.

I'm not quite liking the way my team moves now. I'm remembering why I switched it up to begin with. Raul is just a problem as he doesn't play well wide, but I want CR7 in the middle.
A lack of a natural CAM is hurting my team a lot.

Any way it comes to something when Champs would actually be a break.

[Danny]

Striker Ramos and OP Best. What nonsense. Any Ramos should be RB.

1112051889233760256

[Yevrah]

The requirements for the upgrade are criminal again.

[Gray Fox]

If that Best comes in around 1.5m I may well do that tonight. He'll probably be about the Best one I can afford.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Ramos requirements :cab:

86 rated squad with 1 IF and 2 Madrid players
85, 1 IF and 2 Spanish players
87, 1 IF and 3 La Liga players
85, 1 IF
87.

Coming in at 1.3m on Futbin right now, fuck me.

[Danny]

Nani tomorrow?

https://i.redd.it/uxiisypxsap21.jpg

[Gray Fox]

Van Basten and Nani would be meh.

Best coming in at 2m is very disappointing.

[Gray Fox]

After toiling away for a good 3 hours, I've only managed to add 2 more wins to the SMS objective.

Coming up against drop back 1 depth in fucking Rivals is seriously making me consider if I actually want to continue playing this game. I'm approaching 1,000 games played, which I'd estimate 90-95% of are online. The fun has been missing for a few weeks now if I'm frank.

[Yevrah]

It's turd isn't it. And it's such a shame, because without the drop back bullshit I think the game would be possibly the best they've made.

One could say if you can't beat them join them, but I've tried it and I hate playing that way.

Seriously though, sack off the objectives, your life will be better if you do.

[Gray Fox]

The final straw was my controller finally conked out as I was up having scored with Emre Can. That would have counted towards both players. Couldn't carry on now even if I wanted to.

[Yevrah]

Tried Birthday Salah and sold him as he’s not a patch on TOTY Marcelo. Those toty players are different gravy.

[Yevrah]

Blanc done and I’ve stuck a sniper on him.

[Gray Fox]

I'm assuming that's to up his agility and balance?

I love that about TOTY Ramos. Those agile fast attackers are a menace when they stop turn and change direction quick, but if I see it coming I'll have Ramos get the ball before he's finished stopping.

[SincereTheRebel]

The requirements for the upgrade are criminal again.

People must do them if they keep releasing upgrades like this. You are effectively paying double if you did the prime beforehand.

[Yevrah]

They are in a bit of a predicament because the cheaper you make it the more Prime versions in the market will rise in price, but then that’s their own stupid fault for introducing Prime Moments in the first place in a desperate cash grab attempt.

[Yevrah]

I'm assuming that's to up his agility and balance?

I love that about TOTY Ramos. Those agile fast attackers are a menace when they stop turn and change direction quick, but if I see it coming I'll have Ramos get the ball before he's finished stopping.

That was the idea. I might change it up, but thought I'd do that to start.

I also did the Socrates loan after you finished watching the stream and fuck me is he good.

EDIT: The other benefit of putting a Sniper on him was I now have two cb's with finishing over 80.

[Yevrah]

I'm tempted to do another mid-tier icon SBC as I'm going to need an icon for whatever beast rated icon I do later on down the line.

EDIT: Scrap that. There's so much shit in there that packing Figo the first time could actually be described as lucky, even though he's not very good.

[Gray Fox]

I saw 2 opened yesterday, both got Portuguese flags.

One was Eusebio, one was Deco. It really is luck of the draw and is only worth doing if you're happy to bin the shit one you get pretty much straight away.

[Gray Fox]

One other thing to note. Through my run yesterday I saw that new Robben in every team and he's scarily good. I'm going to do his loan.

[SincereTheRebel]

Playing Rivals and surprisingly, i unlcoked a RB savic which looks like a monster. Im now thinking of getting him into my team in midfield. I need to sell and buy a few players to make it happen.

[Gray Fox]

https://i.gyazo.com/b047cb4024a84bbf3c2071974c49807d.png

Posted on the FIFA Brazil Twitter page before it was taken down.

[Danny]

Interesting, so Nani and MVB leaked and now Cesc and Dinho.

Cesc probably has about 35 stamina.

[Danny]

Also FUTSWAPS expire today.

[Yevrah]

Cesc will be shit, but that Ronaldinho could be the one.

Spent a lot of time today selling shit. All 86-84's gone and a fair few consumables and now up to 1.8m. Kept the 88+'s and Kroos, but Ronaldinho may see those hit peak now.

I'm a combined 17 SBC's away from completing the major 5 leagues again. They're all the shitty ones left to do, but I do have a few of the silvers, so I think I'll do those and then gut everything I have left ready for TOTS.

[Yevrah]

First leak was right, it's Nani and van Basten. Not remotely interested in either of those.

[Gray Fox]

I'm still eyeing up Best. He's incredible in draft and if I sell up I can have 1.4m. I already have an Icon to give which takes the cost down to 1.6m.

All being said I'd want that R10, but with Henry being over 3m, he'll cost at least the same and good luck me getting that.

I'm tempted more by the fact that he should still be better than most TOTS players and will be in my team for the last 5 months of the game guaranteed.

The flip side says maybe do without CR7 for a few weeks and build on the 1.3m he brings. If I play to Rank 2 in Rivals/14 wins in Champs per week it's a guaranteed 100k a week assuming no pack pulls. I could end up pushing 2m for TOTS.

[SincereTheRebel]

Scenario



Team One - Current Team
https://www.futbin.com//19/squad/5893876

I want to make some changes. Basically ive got 2m coins and I want to buy TOTY KDB which is a lock. I must have him 100%. Now ive got Birthday Savic, I want to fit him into midfield. I also want to improve my CB (Cut off Sol). Ive got my eye on OP Cannavaro or Desially. I also wouldn't mind OP Petit either.


I can sell Figo for 900k, bring in RM Cancelo 89 and swap him with Savic RB 89. That would mean pushing Hazard LW 92 to partner Ronaldo as a striker and putting TOTY KDB into CAM. FUTBIN tells me as of right now, without selling anybody. I have an additional 1.6m on my trade pile giving me 4.6m in total.

I should probably prioritise cutting of Big Sol. He isn't great at all. Who should it be? Even though Cannavaro is short, I think he could work really well given I don't come across big forwards. Its short, nipple punks that twist Big Sol inside out.

[The Merse]

Oof, if that Fabregas becomes a real thing I may consider him just out of my love for the guy, but christ knows how I'd fit him in. Annoyingly, he'd be best in place of Lothar.

Finally got on for a couple of games and really enjoying the team again. Switching Vieira's chem style from Engine to Anchor has worked a treat. Not much noticeable difference to his dribbling/passing, but his defensive side seems ultra-beastly now.

SincereTheRebel
Never played with Cannavaro, but can vouch for Desailly. He's top notch.

[Gray Fox]

Doing the weekly objectives has I think, shown me how vital a CAM is to how I play. The mix of players who aren't natural there is like me putting square pegs in round holes.
Emre Can is also showing he is decent for a free card, but not really up to being in the team full time.

[The Merse]

9-1, though my record says 9-4 due to three successive dc's at 2-0 up each fucking time at the hands of my new isp/router (virgin). After turning my firewall and UPNP off it's looking good though.

Mbappe FB is mental. He makes a mug of full backs with such ease, and is the most fun card I've played with all year.

Also looking forward to the CSL challenge this week.

[Gray Fox]

I've just finished that up. Make sure to bring your 3 best super subs. There's no restriction on them aside from needing to start with 3 CSL players.

[John]

Birthday Sane is phenomenal. I got his loan card and played him up front and in ten games he finished with thirty two goals and twenty assists. Definitely buying him.

[Gray Fox]

I couldn't really get on with him that well, which probably confirms my preference to the smaller nimble attacker as opposed to a taller more bulky option. I feel much more at home with a Messi, Mertens or Hazard, than I do with say Bale.

Final game of the SMS challenge ticked off, which is now 2/3 of the birthday cards earned. Finished it off with a mighty defensive performance. I went 2-0 up and went on to continually hit him on the break. Sending Werner and Sterling in behind on a committed defence is great fun. Ended up winning 4-1 and received messages from my opponent straight away. Some how I was the noob despite just beating him 4-1.

I've 2 games left on Boateng, and so may use up the rest of the Sane loan in trying for him.

[John]

Sane seems like the best of both worlds to me. He's quite tall and solid, but also over ninety for agility and dribbling, with ball control almost there. Oddly, given his record, the biggest problem I found with him was some questionable finishing, but I'll stick a chem style on him to remedy that.

[Yevrah]

If he had a 4 star weak foot I’d have been all over him.

[Gray Fox]

Got through to 14-2 yet again and I've stopped. I lost my first game and then my penultimate game, so there was a 14 game streak in there.

Same results but felt like I had much less control in games. I created fewer chances but scored them more reliably. I had hate messaged off my last 4 opponents as well. All of them having a go for me spending money on the game and refuse to believe I haven't.

I'm hoping that they change up the reward structure for WL when TOTS hits. Unless that happens it's unlikely I'll try and push past Gold 1 again.

[SincereTheRebel]

What did you get for division 1, rank 1 before the change and how many rivals points did you need to reach it?

[Gray Fox]

I couldn't tell you. FUTBIN doesn't keep track of Div 1/2 points. But we can make an educated guess. It's currently on 14k for Rank 1, Div 1. The reset is at 8am Thursday, we've had 4 days since, so I'd estimate we're looking at 20-24k points for Rank 1.

It's very hard to tell because 3 divisions worth of players have just been lumped into one. Some will not want to play because of it and some will self relegate again. But I don't think that will offset the influx of new players.

The rewards themselves haven't changed though. It's 80k/1 mega and 1 ultimate/2 mega and 2 ultimate.

[SincereTheRebel]

I ask becuase after I played WL and a few games a week in division 3. I could get rank 1 with 18k points. Im now up to 16k points and wondering is it the same. Looking at FUTBIN previous weeks points totals. It increaes by aout 1500 per division it appeaers. You right though. The amount of players now in diviion 1, may increase or decrease the total. Will have to wait and see.

Div 7 - 11910 pts
Div 6 - 13800 pts
Div 5 - 15650 pts
Div 4 - 17740 pts
Div 3 - 18580 pts

[Gray Fox]

https://i.gyazo.com/53644ff450239991f4701b7bee2296c4.jpg

I really dislike being in Div 1. Quite often it's a close, competitive game, but that? Fuck that.

Thankfully I've got all the objectives done. I can finally take Emre Can out the team. The last German goal needed was this beauty https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/sniper-wolf-tp4/video/72285309

Not sure if I'm as sold on CR7 this time around. He great, but Werner plays much better as a striker. Also as I've mentioned before my preference is to the more nimble attacker.

[SincereTheRebel]

I havent come across any hyper teams in division 1 yet. I would have thought in the 40+ games Ive plyed this weekend. I would have been in division 3 by now, but ive been bouncing between 2050 and 1910 points during that time. I imagine playingon the weekend is easier, as the superstars are playing WL

[SincereTheRebel]

Has anyone used OP Cannavaro. I dont know who to get between him and OP Desailly? The agililty and balance looks amazing for a CB on OP Cannavaro. Would Desailly just be a slighlty better version to Big Sol?

[Gray Fox]

Is the loan still there for both?

I'd imagine Cannavaro to be great until someone brings Zlatan on for the 489713589th time and spams crosses.

[Danny]

Ok they really have smashed FUTSWAPS this time

IF Robertson
IF Pepe
FUTBD Meunier
FUTBD Costa
CL Griezmann
Base Icon Pack
IF Werner

[Gray Fox]

The IF cards are for buttons as well.

You'll need the full 14 for Costa and the base Icon. 7 for Meunier and 12 for TOTGS Griezmann.

They've given us a free one and the first one via SBC is out now. I can see the weekly objectives for this being a right bastard.

[Danny]

7 for Meunier is what I am going to head for

[SincereTheRebel]

Is the loan still there for both?

I'd imagine Cannavaro to be great until someone brings Zlatan on for the 489713589th time and spams crosses.

Loan is available for both. They will be partnered with VVD so there is a balance.

I forgot to redeem my swaps. The app didnt tell me either

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd love the basic icon pack but like fuck I'm going for all 14.

[Gray Fox]

Icon pack makes sense 3 times over.

1. You get the slim chance of one of the top ones, something usable. Vieira, R9, Eusebio, Pele, Maradonna etc
2. Should that fail, you get to submit that into an OP Icon SBC. For this you get a 100k pack back. You could pull anything from that.
3. Assuming 1 and 2 have disappointed you, you've now saved at the time of typing, 330k off the price of that OP Icon you wanted.

Take Blanc as an example. He's 1m on the nose and looks very good. He now is down below 600k. He requires no IFs in the 80+ squads either so you could tick him off slowly between now and the last week of April, when you eventually get the 14th token.

[thommo]

So I've been away from FIFA for a little bit after packing in the weekly player objectives last week, and I didn't bother with the Weekend League for the first time in about 3 months. Coming back on today I've seen the Mid Icon SBC with less than a day to go. I've never owned an Icon in any FIFA, normally due to my lack of decisiveness in choosing who I want for teams. So this has piqued my interest.

The requirements seem fair, 3 squads (84-86) all with an IF, and most of this I knew I had sitting in the club, wasting away. I spent about 175k picking up a couple of high rated players and IFs to fill out the squads. I was pretty excited to open it.... and then I saw the Portugal flag and my heart sunk a little.

And then...
https://screenshotscontent-d4002.xboxlive.com/xuid-2533274894873584-private/598ec009-1e96-46af-8069-80aa4cae07e6.PNG?sv=2015-12-11&sr=b&si=DefaultAccess&sig=HyQkSqJk4kFc7VGgWC6SaMaiV1gcoSmUyKa5B9QFPSs%3D

:rave:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Absolute cunt.

[Gray Fox]

GG Thommo!

[Gray Fox]

CR7 and Cancelo sold back on. Probably lost about 40k in tax, but it taught me what I needed to know, I can't quite fit him in yet.

Just under 1.4m to hand now and unsure if to go and replace players with some new ones, or just hold it. Given I know I'll be taking the base Icon, I've essentially 1.7m towards an Icon now.

The flip side is I wait and see what near 2m coins gets me in TOTS. This is the gamble in investing in a special card now. Their price will plummet if they're likely to get a card.
The market is a bit crazy right now as well. GG to Yev for stashing those Kroos. 20k proft per card if he got them a week ago. You can see the effect being had on the market via SBCs. Especially the higher end squad requirements. For example Socrates was nearly 500k cheaper to do a week ago. Baggio is the same. In fact all of those that were 1.2-1.6m have pretty much had 300k or so added on over the week.

This is similar to when we had TOTY but then they followed that right up with the unexpected FFS promo. Too many desirable SBCs in a short space of time needing high rated cards with no market replenishment. I'd expect some good pack luck for people for a week or two.

[SincereTheRebel]

Are there any SBC cards or weekly objectives you man regret not doing and cards that you wish you didnt do?

Should have done

Henrikh Mkhitaryan - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/17248/Henrikh%20Mkhitaryan/
David Luiz - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/19415/david-luiz
Dani Alves - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/17348/dani-alves
Allan Saint-Maximin - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/18174/Allan%20Saint-Maximin/
Alphonso Davis - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/18172/davies

Regret doing

Carlos Tevez - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/17562/t%C3%A9vez
Patrick van Aanholt - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/17502/Patrick%20van%20Aanholt/
Benjamin Mendy - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/19931/mendy


Tevez only gets subbed on whn im clearly winning games, which isnt very often. I thought Aanholt and especailly Mendy would play better than Alonso, but they just dont.

[Gray Fox]

Regret doing:

Flashback Dani Alves - This comes with a caveat. He was fantastic, but then they changed how the game played and now he's just too small and weak. Whenever I play with him my opponent will sub on Zlatan at LW and cross it.
Flashback Tevez - Has already been chucked into a newer SBC.
Flashback Torres - I couldn't help doing it, but unfortunately I don't find his card plays up to the stats.
Joelinton FFS - Another in the already gone list.

Beyond that I think I've shown good restraint on them.

Should have done:

Joe Gomez FFS - https://www.futbin.com/19/player/17746/Joe%20Gomez/ Liverpool look likely to have 4 of the back 5 in TOTS, Gomez in there would have finished off the set nicely. Didn't have the coins unfortunately.
Flashback David Luiz - I actually intended to do him if I remember rightly but had internet problems and then only got home 30 mins before he expired. Didn't want to risk losing my coins and not getting him.
Flashback De Rossi - I'm coming up against him a lot in Div 1 now and he's a right pain.
POTM Eden Hazard - By far my biggest annoyance. I just didn't have the coins. He's still a top quality card even now as well.



I will say I think Flashback Zlatan has ruined the Flashback cards for the rest of the year. His card is far too good. Essentially a TOTS card(I'm sure that's what it's based on too) and it was 150k or so at the time. Everyone and their dog did this is they had that spare and every SBC for a Flashback since has been quite overpriced.

[SincereTheRebel]

That Zlatan statement sounds true. Also I could add POTM Hazard to the list, as im now looking at his 94 IF which is only one more from his POTM

[Gray Fox]

His 93 card may be better to look at. It's likely to be easier to fit in due to being central and it's exactly the same as the POTM.

The problem I've got with special cards right now is that no one knows when TOTS is coming and he's likely to be in it. You've already seen the state of panic selling when a promo is announced ahead of time as well. I'd say his card is on par with Messi as a CAM, however he could halve in value in that time.

[SincereTheRebel]

At this point, im not that concered about losing coins. We are towards the end of game, and regardless of who Ive had in my team. I can only acheive Gold 1 in WL. We have had a lot of new cards and promos and I havent had the urge to put most of the players in my team. Its weird.

[Yevrah]

+1 for the PotM Hazard regret. I could have afforded him too I think.

[Yevrah]

Oh and as for the FutSwaps, that's a great selection and reinforces my earlier idea to do a pack only game next year. If it's possible to get icons doing that then it's seriously tempting.

If EA make the requirements really tough on the back of it then shame on them though. They should be rewarding people still playing at this stage, not pissing them off.

[SincereTheRebel]

We should have got new unique FUT SWAP cards. The Da Costa and Juan Jesus cards were excellent.


https://www.futbin.com/19/player/17536/Danny%20da%20Costa/
https://www.futbin.com/19/player/18489/Juan%20Jesus/

[Yevrah]

As was the Guilavogui.

It's a shame, but it appears they can't be arsed with that anymore.

[SincereTheRebel]

It was an great promo for people who are not that great at the game. It would be even better if they all soft link to each other.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think the only one I regret is The Hunter.

He's basically a poor man's version of Zlatan so there was no real point to it other than having a high rated card of his.

[SincereTheRebel]

I dont think iver ever come across that Huntelaar card in-game

[SincereTheRebel]

I could have prboably saved myself about 1m worth of untradeables if i didnt do all the SBC that had no business going to my starting 11. Shit, even Zlatan does not get much game time with me.

We need better stat tracking on the next game. I cant keep stressing that enough. Why when I look at my LLoris card, it says he has in over 200 games, 0 goals and 0 asssits. Pointless madness.

[Danny]

I will look through my SBC’s when I get home but I don’t think I regret any. Either they were dirt cheap and will be used in an SBC or I enjoyed the card for a while.

The Hunter leads the line in my Bayern/Ajax (won’t be getting Robben) that I have fun with so no regrets there.

I do kind of regret not doing Hazard but it would have bankrupt me at the time.

[Gray Fox]

Robben is incredible by the way, however 900k.

[SincereTheRebel]

Its somewhat like a past TOTY card. I understand why it is so expensive.

[Yevrah]

Tempted to sell all my Kroos' and other 88-90s now as if EA don't release the major icon SBC's before TOTS he's only going to go down.

[Yevrah]

As for Robben, I'd love to do him, but a) have Mbappe and b) can't get chemistry on him (to improve his passing and physicals) without a Dutch icon and the only one I'd really want is Gullit.

[Raoul Duke]

I'd have loved De Rossi and the high-rated Vrisaljko for my Serie A team. Also should have gone in for the Dutch kids from Ajax as they looked mega.

[Gray Fox]

You can still get De Ligt and he's only 300k or so. De Jong will likely get a TOTS card too.

[Danny]

I have MOTM De Ligt, RTTF Tagliafico, FFS De Jong, HL Ziyech and FB Hunter in my ‘fun side’.

Need to get that De Ligt upgraded.

[Gray Fox]

I've been looking at ways to improve my full back situation as it's easily my weakest point of the team.

Looking around at what's on offer there's really not a great deal of top quality full backs available. At LB, better than 86 Robertson there's only really Telles, Sandro and Marcelo.
Sandro is hard to link in unless I want to go and buy 91 Chiellini. Even then it messes up chemistry across my back line. If have to bring in my 88 red Donnarumma to make that work.
Telles UCL live card combined with Eder Militao FFS looks very tasty and as it's a perfect link, it wouldn't have to mess things up down the line.
In and scenario it looks like swapping Virgil and Ramos around looks the way to go. In doing that I could bring in Marcelo. The standard gold still compares well to Robertson everywhere bar pace, however there's always the TOTY option. He would cost 1m of my 1.4m budget though.


Looking across at RB, with Virgil switched the one that makes most sense is FFS Alexander-Arnold. He is 530k or so though, so for example the simplest solution of him and TOTY Marcelo wouldn't be available.
Gold Walker looks okay. Beyond that there's only really Aurier that would work.

I'd be interested to see how TOTY Ramos did at RB. He obviously has it all defensively and is pretty decent moving forwad, but I'm not sure I'd want to be making 1st minute subs.

[Danny]

Could you find a way to start 3-5-2 and get FUTBday Marcelo on the right?

Him and Ramos become the full backs and you go from there

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You could set up the changes so the change when you tweak the mentality but that means you effectively lose a game plan.

[Gray Fox]

Great shout actually Danny I've rocked this up quick.

https://i.gyazo.com/54326a690e241b50bc8a14da67e71197.jpg


That actually looks like it would work without changes. That comes out about 1.5m so I wouldn't be able to do it til Thursday, looks like it could well work though.

[Danny]

That looks good.

[Gray Fox]

Further tweaking shows I'd be pretty stuck with that at the back(has to be an EPL CB and the only 2 that aren't slow AF are Gomez and Walker). I could also replace the CAM spot with any German, Spanish or Dutch player and they'd be on 10 chem thanks to strong Icon links. Any EPL player would work too.

FB Sane would work there as would Havertz and Reus. Spanish options are Inaki Williams or Butragueno pretty much. As for Dutch there's the obvious Icons and maybe Depay but not much else.

[Gray Fox]

Ended up grabbing Walker and Marcelo last night. Walker for bang on 300k, Marcelo for 498k. I figured as both were out of packs, their price would rise by Thursday in case things don't work.
This new Marcelo card is pretty much the same in Defending and Physical but significantly better everywhere else. He could quite easily play any position on the pitch. As such I'm wondering if he's wasted at LB for now as he looks a killer CM. I seem to remember using TOTY Marcelo against maybe Merse at CM and he was a right pain for him.

In any case buying the two has left me with 570k. Because of the way the 3-5-2 connects up, any EPL or nation that matches my Icons player will fit in. This player would likely be my CAM. There's 4 EPL options I'm looking at.
First was Hazards 93 CAM card. Unfortunately I bought the wrong way around here and got Marcelo before I saw one for 580k on the market. Since then I haven't seen one below 610k. The next option is Salahs 90 card. With a maestro applied (https://www.futbin.com/19/player/17428/Mohamed%20Salah/?chem=maestro&pchem=10&schem=100) he becomes a 95 rated CAM. He is also very much within budget. Sane is pretty much the same in every way too. (https://www.futbin.com/19/player/20004/Leroy%20San%C3%A9/?chem=maestro&pchem=10&schem=100) The final option is Agueros 93 card but that's way out of my price range.

FB Marcelo would also work very well there but then I'm needing a LB again.

A wildcard for this could also be March POTM, which I'm surprised we haven't heard of yet. By my reckoning it's only between Sterling and Mane. It should definitely be the former but I believe both played centrally through the month.

I wouldn't mind giving a go at playing the 3-5-2 outright also as it has 3 things I love. 2 CDMs, a CAM and 2 strikers. No idea how to set one up though. Does anyone on here play one?

[Yevrah]

I play it Fox and I quite enjoy it. When I'm back on I'll let you know the instructions.

Marcelo is lethal for me at LM too.

[SincereTheRebel]

:drool:

https://i.ibb.co/L0C9VJ7/fgdfg.png (https://ibb.co/515sbnH)

In game, I move to a 41212(2) with Cancelo at RB and Savic as a CM and Hazard as a ST. I paid 2.1m for TOTY KDB and he is such a monster. Im not sure what chem style to use on him as a CAM. He looks great with a BASIC as his pace and agililty get a +5. SNIPER takes all his shooting to 99 and his dribbling to 98

I have the loan version of Cannavaro but I havent used him yet. Saving him for the last 10 games of WL. Surprisginly, I can afford to buy him off the market as it is 400k cheaper than his SBC :cab:

I still have about 1.5m of players to sell and another 1m in the bank as of right now so I still have room to improve.

Given how the game has gone for me so far regardless of who ive played in the team, is the new team really going to push me into elite 3?

[SincereTheRebel]

Im going to try and get all the FUT swap cards for the icon. There is an SBC out now for one fut swap card. We should have two so far?

[Danny]

Yeah, the freebie and the SBC

https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/b8590j/futswap_list_april/

[SincereTheRebel]

Yeah, the freebie and the SBC

https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/b8590j/futswap_list_april/

Nice. Hopeuflly I can keep on top of it. A free icon would be nice.

[The Merse]

Shit load of cunts turning up in singles with god squads for easy wins. I’ve beaten a few, lost to others as I can only really start 4 decent players from the CSL.

Prickish stuff, and they seem to revel in sending messages after the game moreso than champs/rivals. Clearly a field day for cunts.

[Gray Fox]

I find they somehow seem more angry if they win.

That being said I faced one guy who brought on TOTY Messi, Mbappe and Ronaldo. I ended up just playing keep ball and he couldn't defend properly. He was furious.

Rivals points update time and Rank 1, Div 1 is up to just over 22k points. I reckon 24k is a safe zone, so I'll try and play a few to get to that.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive used the Cannavaro loan card for a few games and he is great. I havent noticed his lack of height yet but he is defaintly better when it comes to interceptions. I took the 80k this morning as i manged to sneak rank one in division one.

Once I sell prime Figo for about 950k, I will buy Cannavaro and stick an anchor on him.

[Gray Fox]

I was playing last night and it felt like the game was in slow motion. The worst thing about bad gameplay is it seems to make your players more stupid. I had my VVD watch as the ball rolled by his foot across goal for a striker to poke in. Same game, Alphonso Davies managed to ghost through him and poke one in.

It also seems to affect passing and shooting, but making them seriously underpowered. It was quite an odd experience.

In any case I took my 80k and then from Gold 3 I got nothing in the packs, but 86 Forrest and 87 Milinkovic-Savic as my reds. I don't think that's too bad at all.

We've also been given a UEL moments Leon Bailey 87. Seems reasonably cheap at 110k so far, Mega pack and Prime Gold Players Pack back too.

[Trancemeister]

Russian golds are selling quite well.

[Gray Fox]

Playing this in Div 1 is really like pulling teeth. You either face 1 depth, drop back, or all out press. There's nothing inbetween. Everyone is out to abuse game mechanics and everyone will do La Croqueta spam from the corner.

Still beyond all of that by far the most irritating thing is when you user tackle someone, only for them to keep the ball. I like to 'break rank' with my CDMs to come out and put a tackle in. I can't tell you how many goals I've just conceded in games because they've kept the ball and now I have a gap in my defence.

[thommo]

I thought it was bad enough in Division 3. I won about 5 or 6 on the trot (not always scoring with the right players) and moved up from Div 4 to 3, and as the night wore on, I felt the opponents becoming better in skill level but more fucking infuriating in their style of play.

I agree whole-heartedly with regards to tackling someone yet not winning the ball back. I play the same way, wait for a heavy touch, then move up to make the challenge, but the amount of times the ball would still bobble through to his attacker was insane.

My night was summed up when I drew a game, despite being down to 10 men for 82 minutes. I went 3-0 up, slipped to 4-3 down, regained a 5-4 lead thanks to Werner, but my opponent equalised in the 93rd minute thanks to a cross and 25 yard top corner volley. Nothing I could do.

To make things worse, I'm not even done yet with the two objectives. I have 9/10 done for the Germans, and due to my idiocy, 8/10 on the Serie A players. I was certain it had simply said Italians and was using IF Balotelli up front, but I've missed out on at least a couple of wins, maybe more, that didn't count towards it. It was getting late and I was getting tilted and playing worse due to that. I'll hopefully finish it quickly once I'm home from work later.

[Gray Fox]

I'm moving very close to the if you can't beat them, join them, stage. The worst thing about it being in Div 1 is that it is now quite common to see not only Vieira, but Vieira and TOTY Kante combined.
Something I do need to work on is my finishing. I've fallen into the tendency of using low driven for everything. Even with the like of Raul or 91 Werner, if the body position isn't lined up straight, they're scuffing it even green timed.


thommo I don't suppose you have any form of Emre Can or Khedira at hand do you? If you managed a goal and win with either of those you'd get both objectives instead of trying to force it to one player at a time. If you're good at drawing penalties that can get you the chance you need to score with one.

[thommo]

I have the Carniball Emre Can, and he did score a couple of nice free kicks for me in big victories to help seal the win for the objective. It was just a couple of games where I won 1-0 or 2-0 with Balotelli scoring and I'd just assumed it was only Italian players so thought it was counting. Really fucking irritating to find out I'd just not read the objective properly at 2am this morning.

For finishing, I personally only use the finesse when 1-on-1 and looking to curl it round the keeper. Otherwise I leather it, and will look to hit it across the keeper. If I see my opponent likes to fiddle with the keeper positioning, I will just go near post all the time and it can lead to some comical finishes.

[Gray Fox]

One you need to add to your arsenal is the fake shot stop. If you're through and have time, knowing your opponent is moving their keeper, press B then A whilst letting go of the left stick. They move their keeper as you stop dead and you slot it into the other side.
It works because for some reason this year you can see when your opponent is powering up a shot or pass. It's almost always an instant rage quit too because of how stupid they feel.

If I could find a way to do the same against people who move their keepers out and catch corners, I'll be laughing.

[SincereTheRebel]

What tactic do you use to people who move their keepers at corners? I try and loft the ball over them but becuase they have moved their GK already, if the ball is delivered anywear in the box, they will come and catch or fist it away. Always using a short corner seems like a waste but is that what needs to be done?

[Gray Fox]

Short corner. If they close it down, a pretty quick lofted cross into the back post or pass to the edge of the box. If not, run it into the box.


Also some new data has been found in the network traffic that points to us getting limited ratings FUT Champs rewards reds. The one that was found limits you to an 83-86 rated player. This is good if they're going to scale it up the chain, so for example an Elite player gets a minimum of one 86+ or something. However I think this is just going to be to tone down people getting Silver 1/Gold 3 and picking up the best player in the TOTW whist people Elite 3 and up don't.

[SincereTheRebel]

I run this in game with everyone on full chem. First WL with Cannavaro. 30 games by saturday night.

https://i.ibb.co/BCT04vM/fgdfg.png (https://ibb.co/nLQx34J)

[Gray Fox]

I'd love to copy that, but I don't have that Alonso or De Rossi :(

[SincereTheRebel]

Hopefully it plays as well as it looks. I will keep you updated.

I've just noticed, that Festival 91 Lloris does not have the 'Sweeper Keeper' trait but his gold 88 card does according to FUTBIN. On FUTWIZ, sweeper keeper does not appeaer at all.

[Danny]

Wow

1114211128391884800

[Yevrah]

Had to happen at some point I guess given how many there are to go.

Cruyff looks disgustingly expensive. Laudrup and Moore dirt cheap.