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Dounikos in the Grand National.
£12.50 EW @ 40/1
In Jack we trust.
Waffdon
02-04-2019, 10:31 PM
My Antepost EW Lucky 63 for Aintree -
GN: Folsom Blue @ 41
Merseyrail: Bold Plan @ 17
Top Novice Hurdle: Brewin’upastorm @ 12
Topham: Ultragold @ 13
Doom Bar: Captains Inn @ 27
Melling: Aso @ 13
Returns £2.4m :cool:
I hope and think Tiger Roll smashes is though.
-james-
02-04-2019, 10:34 PM
The maximum any horse racing bet can return is a million, regardless of what the slip says.
Sir Andy Mahowry
02-04-2019, 10:58 PM
Waff is going to be seething when they withhold £1.4m of his winnings.
Waffdon
03-04-2019, 08:18 AM
The maximum any horse racing bet can return is a million, regardless of what the slip says.
I know, and it’s not going to win. Few places and wins will be lovely though.
bruhnaldo
03-04-2019, 06:01 PM
The maximum any horse racing bet can return is a million, regardless of what the slip says.
Really? Is that just a law or something?
-james-
03-04-2019, 06:20 PM
Just bookmakers covering their arses against some freak event. They all have it in their terms & conditions.
Waffdon
03-04-2019, 08:48 PM
I signed up to Sporting Bet for an offer and they’re after proof of identity - no idea why as never done it before. Trying to withdraw £200 odd but the issue is my Passport is out of date and no other proof of identity lol. This is great.
Does anyone know the minimum deposits and withdrawal amount for paddy power?
Either 5 or 10, I’d guess.
Waffdon
03-04-2019, 08:54 PM
Deposit is a fiver for sure
I tweeted them. Minimum withdrawal is a tenner.
I have a “risk free” £5 bet but I’ve gotta deposit a tenner, bet a fiver, then withdraw either the original £10, or the remaining £5+winnings. But if a bellend move. I wonder how many people will deposit a fiver and then not be able to get it back.
This is the link they text me if anyone has a pp account to check if you’re eligible: http://pdy.pr/LW5NSA
I signed up to Sporting Bet for an offer and they’re after proof of identity - no idea why as never done it before. Trying to withdraw £200 odd but the issue is my Passport is out of date and no other proof of identity lol. This is great.
Why would that matter?
It's still a government issued document.
It's not valid if it's expired. My mate has been refused entry to a club because of it.
It's a dickhead move, but not uncommon.
Waffdon
04-04-2019, 08:34 AM
Yeah I’ve been refused in pubs, for fags and for fucking red bull in the last few months. Surely they can’t keep the money I deposited though? They literally sent a message saying my passport was authorised when they initially asked for verification and then once I request money there’s a u turn.
-james-
04-04-2019, 09:21 AM
They can.
Getting a provisional for thirty quid or whatever it is is your best bet.
Waffdon
04-04-2019, 09:25 AM
Well that’s bollocks. How can they confirm the account and then when I win money they backtrack. I need to stick to the better known betting sites. Christ.
I won about $600 on a free bet with an American site about a decade ago and it took me 6 months to get my money. They used every excuse in the book. I had to provide my passport scan about 4 times, and then they tried saying the site was only for US nationals. Eventually I managed to speak to someone higher up who authorised it.
Waffdon
04-04-2019, 11:06 AM
Lol I just phoned as I’m off for Aintree anyway and ten mins later I’ve got it in my PayPal.
Mellberg
04-04-2019, 11:51 AM
Reminds me of the good old days :sherlock:
:cool:
We need a decent train to get on board. Fixed or legit. Not bothered.
Waffdon
04-04-2019, 11:59 AM
Kalashnikov NAP
Mellberg
04-04-2019, 12:31 PM
Bet365 50% back on EW singles.
Waffdon
04-04-2019, 12:52 PM
Kalashnikov :drool:
Would have won at Cheltenham if it wasn’t for the horse in front slide tackling him. Step up in trip does wonders.
Buveur D'Air really shagged me today.
Disappointed by the lack of value in some races.
Waffdon
04-04-2019, 06:00 PM
The Captain’s Inn at 50s on Paddy Power tomorrow (!!!!)
Waffdon
05-04-2019, 01:08 PM
Bryony Frost on ITV racing. End me now. Most sickening love affair in history.
I’ve pulled Outlander in the work sweepstake.
I’ll be annoyed if it wins cos the winner only gets £25 and it’s 66/1 or something daft like that. I sorted it out so probably could’ve cheated too.
I chose mine third last. Tiger Roll went second last. :(
Waffdon
05-04-2019, 08:09 PM
Tiger Roll at 5.5 now. Hopefully even more money ploughed on tomorrow and I’m all over him.
My sister has pulled out Lake View Lad while her partner pulled out A Toi Phil in their sweepstakes :D :|
niko_cee
06-04-2019, 07:08 AM
All each way:
£2 Rock the Kasbah
£1 Ultragold
£1 Captain Redbeard
£1 Magic of Light
£1 Outlander
Adios money.
If Tea for Two or Livelovelaugh place I shan't be happy.
B365’s offer (existing customers only) is pretty good. Half your stake back on all losing EW bets. I just bet £30 and they’ve already given me £15 straight back. :drool:
So I’ve a long list of horses, all EW.
£25 Dounikos (5 places) 40/1
a BS £5 acca that includes Jury Duty (5 places) 20/1
£1 Rathvinden (10 places) 9/2
£1 Monbeg Notorious (10 places) 33/1
£1 Blow By Blow (10 places) 50/1
£1 Step Back (10 places) 12/1
£1 Ultragold (10 places) 30/1
20p :cab: Noble Endeavour 40/1 (5 places)
£5 One For Arthur (6 places) 20/1
£5 Warriors Tale (6 places) 100/1
£5 Vintage Clouds (6 places) 11/1
£5 Outlander (6 places) 80/1
The bottom four are for the wife.
EDIT: stuck the £15 cashback straight into Tiger Roll EW (7 places) 15/4 because I genuinely believe it’s between Tiger Roll and Dounikos, accidents-aside.
Waffdon
06-04-2019, 12:21 PM
I want Tiger Roll to win so badly. Got £25 on the nose at 5/1. £5 ew on Dounikos, Go Conquer, Don Poli, Step Back and Jury Duty. Forecasts on too.
Got a lot of money riding on Poker Play in the first.
Spikey M
06-04-2019, 04:20 PM
Bless The Wings
Just a Par
Magic of Light
Live, Love, Laugh (:face:)
Tiger Roll
All £1 EW
Waffdon
06-04-2019, 04:32 PM
What a fucking horse
niko_cee
06-04-2019, 04:33 PM
Magic of Light.
:cool:
Looked magnificent throughout. Fuck the favourites.
Spikey M
06-04-2019, 04:34 PM
3rd year in a row we've turned a healthy profit off a tenner. :drool:
Boydy
06-04-2019, 04:34 PM
Had a fiver each way on Jury Duty but it fell. Didn't believe the hype about Tiger Roll but I should have got on board.
Jimmy Floyd
06-04-2019, 04:40 PM
Backing Tiger Roll at those odds would have been boring as hell.
Spikey M
06-04-2019, 04:40 PM
The fucking fivehead and eyebrows on that.
niko_cee
06-04-2019, 04:41 PM
Any ideas on 5th and 6th?
Spikey M
06-04-2019, 04:42 PM
Anibale Fly was 5th.
Waffdon
06-04-2019, 04:43 PM
One for Arthur sixth
Great ride from Russel. Picked his pockets throughout and poised at the perfect moment. Only £100 profit gained. Shocking price.
Jimmy Floyd
07-04-2019, 02:46 PM
Masters (I consider these value):
Molinari
DeChambeau
Spieth
Cameron Smith
SincereTheRebel
11-04-2019, 09:32 PM
Spurs are @10 to beat Man City away.
Spikey M
11-04-2019, 09:38 PM
And for good reason
Chess Player in the last at Ayr tomorrow. Get on it.
Waffdon
Trancemeister
13-04-2019, 06:23 AM
Juventus @ 2.10 & Barcelona @ 1,80 on Bet365. Definately making a double out of that.
Trancemeister
13-04-2019, 02:38 PM
Fucking hell Juventus losing to fucking Spal. What a joke.
SincereTheRebel
13-04-2019, 05:25 PM
Barcelona also drew 0-0. I'm guessing with odds like that, Ronaldo and Messi didn't feature.
niko_cee
13-04-2019, 05:31 PM
They've already won their leagues, and the games are in between champions league matches. I would be surprised if they weren't sending the under 13s out.
Gone for a big odds Lucky 63 with my last remaining pennies before payday on Thursday. :uhoh:
14:00 Windsor | Hello Girl @ 8/1
14:20 Pontefract | Vardon Flyer @ 25/1
15:30 Windsor | Korcho @ 11/1
16:10 Hexham | Quizzacle Nomad @ 20/1
16:30 Windsor | Monsieur Piquer @ 16/1
17:50 Pontefract | Gennaro @ 8/1
Stake: £3.78 (£0.03 x 126)
To return:£417,532.80
^ that returned £2.80 :lol:
Today’s bet on the Liverpool game:
No Throw In In The 1st 15 Minutes @325/1
Apparently Ballymena are throwing their game vs Crusaders today. :sherlock:
Boydy
27-04-2019, 09:47 AM
Where have you heard that?
Where have you heard that?A private betting group on Telegram :sst:
Boydy
27-04-2019, 01:17 PM
A private betting group on Telegram :sst:
What's the reasoning behind it?
-james-
27-04-2019, 01:30 PM
Tosh.
Well they’re winning 3-0 so :sorry:
(67th min)
EDIT: finished 3-0.
For the record, it was claimed a lot of the Ballymena players had backed Crusaders. :gs:
Waffdon
01-05-2019, 05:15 PM
Kemboy is some horse. Would have pissed the Cheltenham Gold Cup if the accident didn’t happen.
Was there a VAR call last night during the Spurs-Ajax game?
Apparently Twitter went bonkers because people's VAR bet didn't get settled or something over the ref not doing the VAR TV gesture on screen.
No. It only counts if he goes over. Just having them in his ear isn’t a review.
Well that's :D if anything.
Apparently Ballymena are throwing their game vs Crusaders today. :sherlock:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48128649
Ballymena awarded 3-0 win over Crues after David Cushley teamsheet error:sherlock:
https://i.imgur.com/QJuda5Z_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
:eyemouth:
3:50 at Warwick tomorrow
^ that horse won. Sadly those weren’t my bets.
Got this season-long bet hopefully coming in tomorrow:
https://i.imgur.com/hssI8ho.jpg
Boydy
11-05-2019, 01:48 PM
Hopefully City stick on 91.
Nice bet though.
-james-
14-05-2019, 06:01 PM
Eurovision semi final 1 scraps. Winners/top 3s won't be settled until Sunday, mind.
Poland NQ @1.7 large
Belarus Q @2.5 tiny
Finland Q @7 tiny
Serbia top 3 @4 small
Slovenia top 3 @9 tiny
Iceland win the semi @7 e/w (3 places 1/5 odds) small
Greece win the semi @2.5 small
Can’t believe you’ve not gone heavy on France.
-james-
14-05-2019, 06:40 PM
Lay lay lay.
Feel free to take it with a pinch of salt but the owner of Indianapolis in the 13:50 at York tomorrow placed a £1000 EW bet on his own horse earlier today. 28/1 on SkyBet, EW 4 places. 33/1 in some places. :sherlock:
Eurovision semi final 1 scraps. Winners/top 3s won't be settled until Sunday, mind.
Poland NQ @1.7 large
Belarus Q @2.5 tiny
Finland Q @7 tiny
Serbia top 3 @4 small
Slovenia top 3 @9 tiny
Iceland win the semi @7 e/w (3 places 1/5 odds) small
Greece win the semi @2.5 small
Poland not to qualify eh? :sherlock:
I'm here again to bore you about horses (the one two posts up came 6th I think, soz) but I assume some of you took advantage of the "money back as cash upto £20" that Skybet did over Cheltenham? They've an offer one at the moment for first race everyday of the Dante Festival (York) that isn't quite as good, so I've not made use of it all week until tomorrow.
The reason it's not as good as you only get your money back as cash if your horse comes 2nd or 3rd.
Tomorrow there is a horse called Lady Kermit running, who is way ahead of the pack in terms of Racing Post Ratings and speed figures. Obviously the favourite but 4/1 could net you one hundred smackers, off a £20 win bet.
I just can't see it coming 4th or worse.
(If you fancy a bigger gamble, Might Spirit 10/1 looks pretty good to me.) :gs:
I've backed Lady Kermit £20 to win @ 4/1
Also worth noting that some Skybet accounts have the same offer but upto £50, rather than £20.
tl;dr if you've got £20 to spare, it's worth betting it on Lady Kermit to WIN in the 13:50 race at York tomorrow.
Waffdon
16-05-2019, 08:56 PM
I wish there was more folk into horses on here so we could get a thread. I can only rely on discussing it with my 60 year old, noncey, manager lol.
John Gosden took a hammering today. Happy days.
Edit: Mighty Spirit looked decent considering how green it was when against Lady Kermit.
Waffdon
17-05-2019, 11:37 AM
On Lady Kermit on quite a few bets. Legiooo
https://i.imgur.com/WeRSwkO.png
We'll get you a subscription for your birthday
On Lady Kermit on quite a few bets. Legiooo:yn:
Mighty Spirit has been smashed from 16s to 6s, but I’m still confident in Lady Kermit. :uhoh:
I’m also on
Ice Age in the 14:10 Newbury @ 7/1 EW
Sea Fox in the 14:35 Newmarket @ 10/1 EW
Gumball in the 15:45 Newmarket @ 9/4 win
Neverbeen To Paris in the 18:40 Aintree @ 9/4 win (info was “dont back solo saxophone” so I reckon Skelton will be taking it easy, like Japan yesterday.)
Bluewood in the 20:40 Leopardstown @ 13/2 EW
14/1 EW double (was meant to be a Bromhead/Blackmore double but she fell off yesterday so might not ride) on
Judgement Day in the 18:50 Kilbeggan
Put The Kettle On in the 19:20 Kilbeggan
then gumball is also in an 40/1(ish) EW trixie with
Breathtaking Look in the 16:05 York &
Le Brivido in the 15:40 Newbury (Saturday)
Lots of pts out today! Lady Kermit to start off with a flyer would be sensational.
Ahh gtf
Lady Kermit came 3rd.
Money back from sky at least but I’d rather have £100 than £20
Waffdon
17-05-2019, 04:40 PM
Regret not putting hundreds on Stradivarius. How the fuck did it drift to 1.80.
A horse in foal (pregnant) died today from a fall. For fucks sake. :worried:
RIP Beyondtemptation.
SincereTheRebel
22-05-2019, 10:22 AM
A horse in foal (pregnant) died today from a fall. For fucks sake. :worried:
RIP Beyondtemptation.
The horse was racing?
The horse was racing?Yeah, over jumps too. Apparently it’s quite common. :cab:
SincereTheRebel
22-05-2019, 11:48 AM
Yeah, over jumps too. Apparently it’s quite common. :cab:
and women are asking for more time off for paterninty :face:
Jimmy Floyd
27-05-2019, 07:31 AM
Cricket World Cup (all odds from Coral)
NAP: Babar Azam to be Pakistan's top run scorer @ 2/1. This is ludicrous value. He is brilliant and the rest of them are a farce.
Also good value: Rohit Sharma to be India's top run scorer @ 7/2. Virat is Virat, but Rohit has been supremely effective at the top of the order in ODIs for a long time now and all things being equal he gets more balls to face than the great man.
Rohit (16/1) and Babar (20/1) also good value for top tournament runscorer, although I would have the lower priced guys like Kohli and Smith as well earned favourites. I'm on Babar each way for this.
Total tournament stumpings: OVER whatever the bookies lay down, in this case 14.5. This tournament is crawling with leg spinners.
Tournament winner: it really should be England or India, and both are well odds against so choose your weapon. However, if you fancy a shock I have been on West Indies for a long time at a much longer price than the 16/1 now available. They love turning up for a tournament and Gayle will want to go out on a high. Bowling slightly questionable, but isn't everyone's these days? You can also get Pakistan at 12/1 if you want to spend the next six weeks in a drug induced haze.
Top wicket taker: This ball doesn't swing, so I am dangerously going to discount Trent Boult and indeed New Zealand as a team. Instead, Jasprit Bumrah and his weird-angle exocets seem tempting even at short priced 14/1. For a longer each way punt, Jofra Archer and Rashid Khan at 20/1 apiece seem generous. In reality though, this market is a bit of a lottery.
And finally, player to hit most sixes: Chris Gayle at 5/1. The universe boss likes to print money and presumably spend it on a second stripper pole for his back garden, so I'll join him.
Good stuff.
I’m on this from what I posted in the cricket thread:
https://i.imgur.com/5g8J4EV_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
The horse won.
Offshore Toon
13-06-2019, 06:41 PM
I'm on the anti-Asia double in the women's World Cup. South Africa v China tonight and Scotland v Japan tomorrow at 50/1. Free money, boys. Lump on.
14:30 Hazapour 9/1
15:05 Guildsman 7/1
15:40 Mabs Cross 8/1
16:20 Shaman 11/1
17:00 Buildmeupbuttercup 13/2
17:35 Magic Wand 5/1
Double for tomorrow, both at Newcastle
3:30 Theatro
4:05 Bowerman
Both the favourites but for a very good reason. Double is about 6/1 at the moment.
I’m just waiting for Sky to price up cos that’s where my money is.
Smjffy
26-06-2019, 04:59 PM
A New Dawn is running now at Naas if you want some easy money, Baz.
A New Dawn is running now at Naas if you want some easy money, Baz.Was bloody close!
Good shout though.
Smjffy
26-06-2019, 05:08 PM
In The Present looked much better. He ran about a month ago and flopped pretty early.
Big Lachie @8 EW in the 18:10 then I'm running a mile. I hate the horses in the evening.
Waffdon
26-06-2019, 05:11 PM
I’ve made a decent amount of money these past few weeks on the dogs in the local Ladbrokes on a Saturday morning waiting for the missus. I have no idea about them but just following the earlier results of what traps done well (high/low) and if any late money comes in.
Started with a £5 on Saturday and won around £190. £5 single, £5 double and £20 single. Was a bit sick that I didn’t back a three or four fold
Smjffy
26-06-2019, 05:19 PM
Tell me you got on that one too, Baz.
Waff - I find I win more in the bookies than online and I'm a lot more reserved too which is pleasant but the amount of times I back a few horses that win a row then wish I had some sort of combination. The best I had the other day was a 5/1 and 6/1 finish 1st and 2nd. I had the reverse FC. :cool:
Only this left.
https://i.imgur.com/MbbEjtB.jpg
I had an 8 fold last week off a similar stake.
Adam Yates to win stage 6. 10/1
(Cycling) :youpi:
-james-
11-07-2019, 10:59 AM
EUROPA LEAGUE QUALIFIER ACCA BONANZA. These are value prices at the time of writing:
KuPS
Universitaia Craiova
Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Aberdeen
Kauno Zalgiris + handicap
St. Patricks vs Norrkoping u2.5
Neftci Baku
Molde
Cukaricki
Cricket World Cup (all odds from Coral)
NAP: Babar Azam to be Pakistan's top run scorer @ 2/1. This is ludicrous value. He is brilliant and the rest of them are a farce.
Also good value: Rohit Sharma to be India's top run scorer @ 7/2. Virat is Virat, but Rohit has been supremely effective at the top of the order in ODIs for a long time now and all things being equal he gets more balls to face than the great man.
Rohit (16/1) and Babar (20/1) also good value for top tournament runscorer, although I would have the lower priced guys like Kohli and Smith as well earned favourites. I'm on Babar each way for this.
Total tournament stumpings: OVER whatever the bookies lay down, in this case 14.5. This tournament is crawling with leg spinners.
Tournament winner: it really should be England or India, and both are well odds against so choose your weapon. However, if you fancy a shock I have been on West Indies for a long time at a much longer price than the 16/1 now available. They love turning up for a tournament and Gayle will want to go out on a high. Bowling slightly questionable, but isn't everyone's these days? You can also get Pakistan at 12/1 if you want to spend the next six weeks in a drug induced haze.
Top wicket taker: This ball doesn't swing, so I am dangerously going to discount Trent Boult and indeed New Zealand as a team. Instead, Jasprit Bumrah and his weird-angle exocets seem tempting even at short priced 14/1. For a longer each way punt, Jofra Archer and Rashid Khan at 20/1 apiece seem generous. In reality though, this market is a bit of a lottery.
And finally, player to hit most sixes: Chris Gayle at 5/1. The universe boss likes to print money and presumably spend it on a second stripper pole for his back garden, so I'll join him.
Any luck on these?
Obviously West Indies fucked it.
Adam Yates to win stage 6. 10/1
(Cycling) :youpi:I think he came 10th. Bad tip. :baz:
Jimmy Floyd
11-07-2019, 09:22 PM
Any luck on these?
Obviously West Indies fucked it.
NAP was a winner, Rohit was a winner, Jofra's probably placing each way. Stumpings died with the leggies' dreams, and Gayle didn't get it done.
I put all the returns on England to win today, doubled it :cool:
John Arne
21-07-2019, 05:35 AM
Saigon host Hanoi today. Hanoi will win.
John Arne
21-07-2019, 12:35 PM
Saigon host Hanoi today. Hanoi will win.
35 minutes gone.
Saigon 0-2 Hanoi
Offshore Toon
21-07-2019, 12:38 PM
What odds were Hanoi?
John Arne
21-07-2019, 02:24 PM
Full time.
Saigon 1-4 Hanoi
I may be privy to a bit of a scandal in the racing. Runs next Tuesday but not sure if it’s another handbrake job or the one they’ve been waiting for. Depends on the odds, I think. Hoping for 20s. :sst:
I may be privy to a bit of a scandal in the racing. Runs next Tuesday but not sure if it’s another handbrake job or the one they’ve been waiting for. Depends on the odds, I think. Hoping for 20s. :sst:Tomorrow is not the day. It’s 12/1 in a five horse race and they want it to come last.
Also...
https://i.imgur.com/TunNFmB_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Sir Andy Mahowry
29-07-2019, 10:07 PM
:harold:
Oh I should clarify it’s not mine. :dc:
SincereTheRebel
30-07-2019, 08:19 AM
No cash out option?
My friend had one of those last season where he picked a bunch of league and trophy winners. Barca for the Champions League let him down for £34k.
My friend had one of those last season where he picked a bunch of league and trophy winners. Barca for the Champions League let him down for £34k.Is he doing a similar one this year? :eyemouth:
Sky Bet has still got EFL league champions as 4 places I believe Baz.
Sweet. Fulham? :eyemouth:
Will definitely happen:
- Bolton relegated
- Bury relegated
- Juventus win Serie A
And very likely:
- Barcelona win La Liga
- Charlton relegated
- Salford promoted
- Celtic win SPL
Jimmy Floyd
31-07-2019, 10:28 PM
I always do a top five divisions thing. Settled on Man City, Sunderland, Forest Green and Fylde, just don't have a clue in hell about the Championship. Leeds are way too short, I might get involved in West Brom.
Smjffy
31-07-2019, 11:05 PM
I always do a top five divisions thing. Settled on Man City, Sunderland, Forest Green and Fylde, just don't have a clue in hell about the Championship. Leeds are way too short, I might get involved in West Brom.
I've gone Man City, Fulham, Sunderland and Leyton Orient.
Then an even more optimistic, Liverpool, Cardiff, Ipswich, Walsall, Wrexham and Chester which would make me a millionaire and I promise should it happen I shall buy TTH it's very own functioning football team in the lower leagues. . :drool:
I reckon Plymouth for League 2.
Jimmy Floyd
01-08-2019, 06:33 AM
I tend not to fancy relegated teams, the wind is not with them.
All depends on whether Jose Baxter turns up.
-james-
06-08-2019, 10:58 AM
The gambling documentary on iPlayer is an alright watch. Some comedian who was in a Ladbrokes ad has x amount of time to double his £7500. Speaks to four professional gamblers who all know what they're doing.
Ends up on the final day chasing his profit target on a a bunch of English 3pm kick off bets. Good one.
The court-siding bit makes me want to book a flight to Cape Town to watch a load of shit tennis, but you really would need an endless stream of bookmaker accounts. The greyhound punter must be fucking fuming that all his bets lost when he got to be on the telly. Not really sure what either of them gained out of going on it. The former especially, I'd definitely want to be keeping it hush hush and he's gone into pretty fine detail about what his process entails.
Smjffy
06-08-2019, 12:22 PM
If I had £7500 to play with I don't think I'd be doing the horses or the dogs. I'd be playing at much shorter odds, maybe over 0.5 goals only. It's a decent enough watch but not that informative.
-james-
06-08-2019, 01:41 PM
Why shorter odds? Are prices more likely to be wrong?
You're making the mistake that Smiffy has a clue what he's talking about.
I’d do this:
https://i.imgur.com/4zVdYuz_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Smjffy
07-08-2019, 03:19 PM
You're making the mistake that Smiffy has a clue what he's talking about.
Cluj v Celtic tonight, 0.5 goals is 1/9, £7500 on it means a good £800 profit. Much safer than dogs or horses. :sorry:
Jimmy Floyd
07-08-2019, 03:58 PM
Unless a dog or a horse was 1/9.
Sir Andy Mahowry
07-08-2019, 08:50 PM
I’d do this:
https://i.imgur.com/4zVdYuz_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
5th for anyone wondering.
I had £5 E/W on the useless thing.
Smjffy
07-08-2019, 10:14 PM
Unless a dog or a horse was 1/9.
You still wouldn't as it could all be over within minutes. At least with the overs on football you get 90 minutes to secure the goal. It takes just one wrong bounce with the dogs or a dodgy jump with the horse.
1/9 on a horse is far more risky than 1/9 on a goal being scored for me. I've seen enough horse racing to know it's suspect as fuck and enough of those short price favourites have faltered.
-james-
07-08-2019, 10:44 PM
1/9 is 1/9.
There were 22 0-0 draws in the premier league last season. Works out about 1 in 23. The average odds for a 0-0 draw this weekend are about 11/1.
Just watched the documentary.
Fucking nuts. No chance in hell I would ever courtside or whatever the fuck that is called.
Just watched the documentary.
Fucking nuts. No chance in hell I would ever courtside or whatever the fuck that is called.Doing his nuts on a Haslam horse :lol:
If only he checked his stats; Haslam would be 1/16 track last 2 years :loser:
SincereTheRebel
08-08-2019, 10:37 AM
Dybala to PSG @8
SincereTheRebel
10-08-2019, 03:03 PM
Im doing acca's again. I have a fivefold with three results in. Last results are Portsmouth to win and Ajax to win by two goals or more for £107
Boydy
10-08-2019, 03:12 PM
Stuck a fiver on Bournemouth, Burnley, Watford and West Brom. Returns about 100 quid. All drawing 0-0 at half time except Watford who are losing. :moop:
SincereTheRebel
10-08-2019, 03:22 PM
I was looking at Bournemouth at evens who seemed like good value but didn't add them in.
SincereTheRebel
10-08-2019, 03:37 PM
Everton red card.
Zaha on
To score next
@15
Offshore Toon
10-08-2019, 04:21 PM
I had City 4-0 and -2.5, then did a double of Brighton and Tottenham-Villa draw. Better fucking win because too often I go down the right path but fall at the last hurdle.
Offshore Toon
10-08-2019, 06:07 PM
Cashed out. Tottenham applying too much pressure. Cba with the stress.
SincereTheRebel
10-08-2019, 06:14 PM
Im doing acca's again. I have a fivefold with three results in. Last results are Portsmouth to win and Ajax to win by two goals or more for £107
Still on with Ajax winning 1-0 after 30 minutes
Everton red card.
Zaha on
To score next
@15
This failed.
Momentarily had a cash out of just under five hundred quid on a six team acca due to one of the teams I'd backed against getting a red card, but by the time I'd considered it Angers had scored and are now giving Bordeaux a right dicking. :moop:
SincereTheRebel
10-08-2019, 07:23 PM
Tadic makes it 3-0 to Ajax. I should be nice from here.
SincereTheRebel
10-08-2019, 07:51 PM
That is 97 to start the season nice from my original 20£
Offshore Toon
11-08-2019, 08:08 AM
Arsenal -2.5 for today @ 6.8. I know Arsenal are Arsenal, but Newcastle are really Newcastle at the moment.
John Arne
11-08-2019, 10:48 AM
Currently SLNA 0-0 Hai Phong. 46 minutes.
Full expect Hai Phong to grab a winner through some comical defending. #ItsAFix
SincereTheRebel
13-08-2019, 06:02 PM
Celtic, Porto & Ajax @3
niko_cee
13-08-2019, 07:53 PM
Going well so far.
SincereTheRebel
13-08-2019, 10:04 PM
Going well so far.
:cab:
John Arne
14-08-2019, 10:32 AM
This Friday's match fixing is brought to you by Danang FC....
Danang FC v Hanoi FC
John Arne
16-08-2019, 12:09 PM
This Friday's match fixing is brought to you by Danang FC....
Danang FC v Hanoi FC
Full-time.
Danang 1-2 Hanoi.
Cheers. Turned £25 into £52.50. :thbup:
-james-
24-08-2019, 12:39 PM
Any :sherlock: stuff round your way this weekend John Arne?
John Arne
24-08-2019, 02:35 PM
Any :sherlock: stuff round your way this weekend John Arne?
No match fixing in VL1 this weekend, however a game in V.League 2 tomorrow looks ripe for an envelope or two.
Phù Đổng - Bình Phước
-james-
24-08-2019, 11:32 PM
No match fixing in VL1 this weekend, however a game in V.League 2 tomorrow looks ripe for an envelope or two.
Phù Đổng - Bình Phước
Nice, I'll keep an eye on it. What's the nature of it? Have the home side given up for the season?
John Arne
25-08-2019, 03:51 AM
Nice, I'll keep an eye on it. What's the nature of it? Have the home side given up for the season?
Yup. Home side are cooked. Binh Phước outside chance of promotion.
Smjffy
25-08-2019, 04:05 AM
I just had the mother of all endings for a big return. Waiting for Real Salt Lake for three figures, chance after chance missed, as you do. 89th minute, a red card for the opponents. Too little too late I thought but alas, a goal in the 90th! Winner.
Or is it? Nope. VAR! Referee decides not to give it. Wanker. Crowd aren't happy. Neither was I. Goal ruled out. Then in the 96th minute, 2 minutes over the allotted time, a penalty! GOAL! Winner! Then the noise Bet365 makes when another goal has been scored...Oh no...I daren't look. I already felt sick after the disallowed strike, surely it can't be an equaliser.....
2-0. Phew!
No match fixing in VL1 this weekend, however a game in V.League 2 tomorrow looks ripe for an envelope or two.
Phù Đổng - Bình Phước:thbdn:
John Arne
25-08-2019, 01:14 PM
:thbdn:
Yeah, surprising result. From now on worth just sticking to the actual fixed matches. This was more of a punt.
Sir Andy Mahowry
25-08-2019, 01:15 PM
It probably failed as I was on it.
I can give a kiss of death to even a sherlocked game.
These odds seem generous so I’ve stuck a tenner on:
Paris St-G to win to nil; Ibrahim Sangare & Steven Moreira to be carded
250/1
Stake:
£10.00
Potential returns:
£2,510.00
Individually they’re 1/1, 3/1, 3/1.
(Paddy power)
SincereTheRebel
25-08-2019, 08:18 PM
These odds seem generous so I’ve stuck a tenner on:
Paris St-G to win to nil; Ibrahim Sangare & Steven Moreira to be carded
250/1
Stake:
£10.00
Potential returns:
£2,510.00
Individually they’re 1/1, 3/1, 3/1.
(Paddy power)
PSG currently winning 2-0 and sankhare has a card....
PSG currently winning 2-0 and sankhare has a card....
:henn0rz:
Unfortunately this Moreira seems very composed.
Sir Andy Mahowry
25-08-2019, 08:36 PM
I put £5 on it as well as another £5 on PSG to win 3-0, 3-1 or 4-0.
Slap the ref or something Moreira.
Sir Andy Mahowry
25-08-2019, 08:48 PM
Not available. These oddsboost things never are.
Annoyingly no PSG player is actually running at anyone, they're just playing one touch football and all Toulouse defenders are sat way off them.
Shucks.
How much did you win for the 4-0?
Sir Andy Mahowry
25-08-2019, 08:56 PM
Returned £16.25 including the £5 stake.
Smjffy
25-08-2019, 10:10 PM
Before I KO'd this morning I had stuck a fiver on a team that were 48/1 to win whilst drawing 1-1 at half time.....I couldn't make sense of it.
I don't know who Bilambil Redbacks are but they clearly surprised Tweed United 3 who won their previous match 12-1 or something daft.
Smjffy
25-08-2019, 11:03 PM
I wish I had a bet fair account right now. Stuck over 0.5 goals with ten minutes left for Carlos A. Manucci against Universitario, Carlos down to ten but strike in final seconds of the game. That won the single, also have it in a double with Corinthians for a decent return as well as single on Corinthians. So now I've backed the draw and a win for Avai. I've had to go big so I'm either walking away with £380 at a minimum, £535 in second place but the jackpot if Corinthians win is a solid £1100.
:drool:
I started with £14. :D
SincereTheRebel
27-08-2019, 09:08 AM
On Saturday, I put on a random £2 acca across multiple results over multiple days. Ive just checked and it is still on after 7 results. Final three results, I need Lyon to beat Montpellier away. Olympiacos @3 to beat Krasnodar away and Ajax to beat APOEL at home.
If it comes in, I win £251. No cashout available.
Edit. Lyon...
SincereTheRebel
28-08-2019, 07:34 PM
What odds can I get on Bolton staying up?
Trancemeister
01-09-2019, 09:36 AM
Celtic @ 3.10. Have they ever been that high in a scottish game?
Waffdon
01-09-2019, 09:53 AM
Not in a long while. Rangers have a great attack, on a high and Celtic’s defence is shite. Probably aboot correct. Rangers won’t get a better chance to win the league in a while.
Still, mon the tims
SincereTheRebel
06-09-2019, 08:38 AM
I created an eight-fold when I got back yesterday at around 6pm, but somehow I fell asleep and woke up with my phone on my chest at midnight. I went back and checked the results this morning and if I would have put it on. I would have won £151 from £5. :cab:
Ahh, aftertiming. I do miss diljeet.
Someone left work who likes horse racing and often goes to Cheltenham so my leaving present to her was £5 worth of antepost Cheltenham Festival 2020 bets. I even went to three different bookies to get the markets I wanted.
Arkle Chase - Draconian - 50p EW 33/1
Champion Bumper - Wide Receiver - 50p EW 33/1
Champion Hurdle - Saldier - 20/1
Supreme Novices Hurdle - Shishkin - 25/1
RSA Chase - Next Desination - 25-1
Ryanair Chase - Might Bite - 50/1
Lucky 15 £3
The bottom one could land 25k. :sick:
It's not after timing as he didn't win.
This thread needs more action.
Now I’m single again I’ve whapped a load of low stakes bets on to give 3pm some interest.
We’ve enough resident gamblers that to offset my shite tips.
I’ve gone for Charlton to beat Birmingham in my group bet club thing. Tell me why I’m wrong.
Waffdon
14-09-2019, 03:12 PM
Crewe are doing me over. Potentially QPR too if they keep going the way they’re going.
1-0 Birmingham. So I was wrong. Just don’t know why..
Rotherham was tremendous value today. I wasn’t on though, or else I’d have said earlier.
SincereTheRebel
14-09-2019, 05:46 PM
Marseille vs *Nice @4
Nice have won three from four so far. Marseille have only won won
PSV vs Barca @ 2 looks OK. Both at home.
Edit: Nice LOST. PSV and Barca both are clearly winning by three goals after 70 minutes
SincereTheRebel
17-09-2019, 09:16 AM
Shrewsbury Town @1.7 vs Southend United
Southend has not won any of their opening 7 league games.
Almeria @2 vs Girona
Almeria has won four out of the first five league games. Conceding one goal during that time
Coventry @1.61 vs AFC Wimbledon
Coventry are top and Wimbledon are winless in eight league games so far
Jimmy Floyd
17-09-2019, 06:54 PM
Gone for over 3.5 and both teams to score sixfolds in tonight's games. I love £2 interest accumulators of this type. You lose money but it's loads of fun to follow them, and just occasionally one comes in like a boss.
SincereTheRebel
18-09-2019, 08:22 AM
Shrewsbury Town @1.7 vs Southend United
Southend has not won any of their opening 7 league games.
Almeria @2 vs Girona
Almeria has won four out of the first five league games. Conceding one goal during that time
Coventry @1.61 vs AFC Wimbledon
Coventry are top and Wimbledon are winless in eight league games so far
All victories. Coventry with a last-minute winner.
SincereTheRebel
18-09-2019, 08:39 AM
Czech Republic
1. Liga
Teplice vs *Mlada Boleslav
Mlada Boleslav to win @2.4
Mlada Boleslav Draw No Bet @1.66
Teplice have not won in last five games. Boleslav have one loss in last five with three wins. Teplice have not won in the past ten meeting between both teams. 0 Wins, 6 wins, 4 losses.
×Lost
SincereTheRebel
19-09-2019, 02:40 PM
Gone with a random over 2.5 goals in 5 games including the Wolves one @12. Feyenoord away @3.3 vs Rangers looks good because Scottish football is shit.
Edi: Missed out by the Wolves game.
SincereTheRebel
06-10-2019, 08:12 AM
Roma vs Cagliari* @8.5
Roma have won the last four meetings, keeping a clean sheet in the past five. Only a point separates them in the table with Cagliari on good form. Winning the past two away games finds them in 7th place. I like these odds.
Edit: ended 1-1
-james-
06-10-2019, 02:56 PM
on City outright @2.5
SincereTheRebel
14-10-2019, 05:33 AM
Ukraine @3.7 vs Portugal.
Ukraine is in good form. Only conceded one goal so far in qualifying and top their group. Lost only two games since 2017. Portugal dontoolose to often either. Odds are generous.
Draw @3
Draw no bet @2.50
SincereTheRebel
15-10-2019, 08:27 AM
Ukraine @3.7 vs Portugal.
Ukraine is in good form. Only conceded one goal so far in qualifying and top their group. Lost only two games since 2017. Portugal dontoolose to often either. Odds are generous.
Draw @3
Draw no bet @2.50
Win. Ended 2-1 to Ukraine
Renwick 5/1
15:15 Huntingdon
-james-
18-10-2019, 02:41 PM
Anyone with a Skybet account fancy getting me on a bet? Mine's limited. Can transfer money right away.
-james-
18-10-2019, 02:59 PM
Never mind, I'm on.
https://www.oddschecker.com/tv/the-circle/winner
Paddy & Georgina at big odds are worth a stake.
edit: pulled everywhere worth staking now. Hills/Fred settling on public vote, not a bet there.
John Arne
18-10-2019, 04:02 PM
I can't access any betting sites at the moment, can someone tell me what Sanna Khanh Hoa are to beat Saigon FC tomorrow?
-james-
18-10-2019, 04:10 PM
I can't access any betting sites at the moment, can someone tell me what Sanna Khanh Hoa are to beat Saigon FC tomorrow?
Not priced up, from what I can see.
John Arne
18-10-2019, 04:18 PM
Although Khanh Hoa are bottom, Saigon FC are safe and ripe for a brown envelope.
Waffdon
18-10-2019, 09:41 PM
Flat season pretty much over tomorrow. Here’s my picks for Ascot tomorrow, hope you all become millionaires with me.
1.35 - Cape Byron EW
2.10 - Stradivarius will win, Mekong EW
2.45 - Star Catcher should win, Klassique EW
3.20 - Raising Sands EW, Veracious EW
4.00 - Addeybb
4.40 - Escobar EW
Trixie on Stradivarius, Star Catcher and Addeybb and then some sort of Yankees for the rest.
Flat season pretty much over tomorrow. Here’s my picks for Ascot tomorrow, hope you all become millionaires with me.
1.35 - Cape Byron EW
2.10 - Stradivarius will win, Mekong EW
2.45 - Star Catcher should win, Klassique EW
3.20 - Raising Sands EW, Veracious EW
4.00 - Addeybb
4.40 - Escobar EW
Done a £6.30 EW lucky 63 on the first horse mentioned for each race.
Also been sent this (https://www.reddit.com/r/sportsbetting/comments/djzoaj/over_25_goals_on_saturday_19th_october_2019/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) (by request) for over 2.5 goals today.
Waffdon
19-10-2019, 12:25 PM
The German 12pm is away to ruin it before it even started lol
Offshore Toon
19-10-2019, 01:29 PM
I've done six teams from that overs list and also done trebles on the outsiders for today's PL games.
Waffdon
19-10-2019, 03:08 PM
What a horrendous day on all fronts
Offshore Toon
19-10-2019, 05:05 PM
Aye.
Waffdon
19-10-2019, 05:20 PM
Crewe and Villa scoring late meant Forrest Green letting a two goal lead slip was more costly than I thought. Fuck sake.
Waffdon
19-10-2019, 05:57 PM
Veracious placed and Star Catcher/Escobar winning made it not too bad. Not exactly great though. Klassique looked good for a large part and Addeybb in second looked in with a chance.
Mon the National Hunt.
Smjffy
19-10-2019, 10:37 PM
I decided not to go on anything today after losing close to £500 in the last two weeks. Of course the bet I decided not to do went on to win. FML.
The bulk of the losses was attempting the stupid 0.5 goals again. :moop:
Offshore Toon
20-10-2019, 03:06 PM
I'm going for draw-LIV ht/ft. MUN have clear orders and they'll probs give it a good shot.
Waffdon
22-10-2019, 03:32 PM
Not sure how I don’t win on the football tonight. Bradford, Swindon, Bristol Rovers, Newport and Shakhtar all over priced.
Bradford, Swindon, Bristol City, Newport, PSG and Atletico 26/1
Then a few more acca’s with Exeter, Swansea, Crewe and Farsley Celtic thrown in.
-james-
22-10-2019, 04:05 PM
I'm on Brugge +1 and City -2 in the Champions League tonight.
Offshore Toon
22-10-2019, 04:54 PM
I'm on Dinamo Zagreb now then probably Galatasary and Red Star.
Waffdon
22-10-2019, 04:57 PM
How have Bradford drifted to 2.10 from 1.80. I wish I didn’t delete half my accounts and limit the ones I use. Fuck.
-james-
22-10-2019, 05:15 PM
Get a BetBull account if you've not already. One of the better bookies about at the moment.
Waffdon
22-10-2019, 06:02 PM
Is that not what all the football tipsters on Twitter is attaching their links so they get money? Backing odds of 1/3 etc? Yuck
Waffdon
22-10-2019, 06:14 PM
Nice of Shakhtar’s goalkeeper to ruin the first coupon already. What on earth was that :D
Fuck sake.
Offshore Toon
22-10-2019, 06:16 PM
4.75 for Zagreb was absurd. Even without the penalty, they've been the stronger side.
Offshore Toon
22-10-2019, 06:19 PM
I've cashed out. Shakhtar are gonna go all out here. I've sacked the Turks off to go all in on Red Star. Serbs are far more reliable in their lunacy.
Waffdon
22-10-2019, 06:50 PM
At least big Alvaro notched a winner to save three of the coupons. Remind me never to back Atletico again, especially in an early fucking kick off.
Sir Andy Mahowry
22-10-2019, 07:01 PM
Gone big on Gala or draw.
Sir Andy Mahowry
22-10-2019, 07:16 PM
Would be nice if Andone could finish.
Waffdon
22-10-2019, 08:45 PM
That went tremendously well. Holy shit.
Waffdon
08-11-2019, 04:31 PM
Both Dundee teams have scored in the last 7 meetings of the two teams in all comps.
The last 10 meetings have 42 produced goals.
Only 1 of the last 10 meetings has had less than 3 goals.
1.80 for over 2.5 goals is generous. Usually always a red card or penalty too
Cheltenham at home tomorrow is an absolute banker. Swindon have never won there, and in the last cup meeting between the two sides got done 5-0. It's free money.
Offshore Toon
08-11-2019, 08:51 PM
Am wi Waff on o2.5 from HT
Waffdon
08-11-2019, 09:43 PM
Both Dundee teams have scored in the last 7 meetings of the two teams in all comps.
The last 10 meetings have 42 produced goals.
Only 1 of the last 10 meetings has had less than 3 goals.
1.80 for over 2.5 goals is generous. Usually always a red card or penalty too
Least the penalty happened. Lolz. Should have been two red cards at least.
Offshore Toon
08-11-2019, 09:51 PM
You could have easily had three. Shame.
Waffdon
22-11-2019, 10:35 AM
I demand a train on Wycombe tomorrow at 2.40. What the fuck am I missing. Top of the league, best home form and against a mid table team with 5 points on the road.
-james-
22-11-2019, 10:52 AM
xG has them about as good as each other this season. Doncaster take more shots than anyone in the league, just been below average at converting. Quicker turnaround for Wycombe too who played 120 mins in the cup on Wednesday (most of it with 10 men).
Not saying who's right or wrong, just a couple of things you might have missed.
Waffdon
22-11-2019, 10:57 AM
Noticed the FA Cup which is fair enough, just think the odds are far too kind. Same with Huddersfield as well.
Bankers at Navan today.
11:30 Blackbow
12:00 Andy Dufresne
Get your life savings on the double. Free money.
Waffdon
15-12-2019, 11:12 AM
How could you be arsed backing a double at 1.61. Plus, it’s Irish racing. Avoid.
Waffdon
15-12-2019, 11:35 AM
Uh oh.
Waffdon
15-12-2019, 11:40 AM
Think Captain Guinness was winning regardless of the fall at the last tbh
How could you be arsed backing a double at 1.61. Plus, it’s Irish racing. Avoid.
Wise
Bankers at Navan today.
11:30 Blackbow
12:00 Andy Dufresne
Get your life savings on the double. Free money.
Pretty impressive 0/2 there. Remortgage time.
Waffdon
15-12-2019, 12:17 PM
Latest Exhibition finished 2nd to Abacadabras last month which just strengthens the latter and Envoi Allen’s form.
Don’t think anything touches either
My 286/1 outside 6 fold was a Newcastle equaliser away from coming in, and yet fucking Leicester deciding not to turn up against Norwich stuffs my normal accumulator. Was so close to a great day yesterday.
Sir Andy Mahowry
15-12-2019, 02:19 PM
I have £5 on United to win 2-0, 2-1 or 3-0
£10 on Martial FGS
£20 on Rashford AGS.
Sir Andy Mahowry
15-12-2019, 03:35 PM
https://i.imgur.com/5XNNSdO.png
Mason is a hero.
Smjffy
15-12-2019, 04:05 PM
Nice. I need an Arsenal draw now to complete a treble for today's Premier League fixtures. Unlikely but stranger things have happened. If they can get to half time with the scoreline level then I might cash out.
Pretty impressive 0/2 there. Remortgage time.
Let’s do it again, BUT BETTER!
Newbury 14:25 Papa Tango Charly
Ludlow 15:10 Seemingly So
31/1 EW double
Waffdon
25-12-2019, 10:18 PM
I cannot wait to waste lots and lots of pennies on the obscene amount of horse racing tomorrow. Football too of course.
John Arne
26-12-2019, 06:35 AM
Ah, pre-season match fixing. Through on goal, keeper lost, and the striker turns around.
https://gyazo.com/7d2dcb6be85bdcdcd0d76bc21c3186a1.gif
I cannot wait to waste lots and lots of pennies on the obscene amount of horse racing tomorrow. Football too of course.
https://i.imgur.com/PyfsZse.jpg
Can’t wait for the 15:05 at Kempton. Cyrname, Lostintranslation, Clan Des Obeaux and Footpad. :drool:
Bit early for me (Cheltenham first, innit) but 25/1 for Le Breuil to win the Grand National is crazy good.
Waffdon
24-01-2020, 12:30 PM
Put £1 on all 22 race meetings this afternoon and then 10p ew system bet on each card.
1/1 so far. All down hill from here. Done it last night, quite a few been back well.
Jimmy Floyd
25-01-2020, 12:33 AM
This is a random thought but for those who like politics bets, I would suggest Rebecca Long-Bailey to be Labour leader is current much, much too long.
Yevrah
25-01-2020, 12:45 AM
Over 4/1. Very interesting.
Why is Starmer odds on favourite? What's the logic that I need to believe is wrong?
Jimmy Floyd
25-01-2020, 01:24 AM
The reason he is a short priced favourite is an early YouGov poll of members giving him 46% first round and 63% in a run-off against RLB, however I would not take these polls taken three months out remotely seriously. Similar early polls in 2015 showed Andy Burnham pissing it.
Starmer is the logical choice for respectable society: obviously been preparing for this for a very long time, well-liked in Remain circles, a lawyer, part of the London liberal furniture for a good couple of decades. Has the most backing among Labour MPs. He looks a bit like a Prime Minister. Hugh Grant could play him in a film if he was prepared to put a weird wig on and adopt the aura of a shallow cunt. He's also done a Theresa May with great effectiveness by being on the inside throughout the Corbyn regime (thus proving his 'loyalty'), but not said or done anything meaningful for about two years. This would appear to make him a 'unity' candidate.
However, I just don't think the Labour membership is ready to give up on the Corbyn fruitcake dream just yet, and the one member one vote system really gives 'Becky' a shot. She's the only left left candidate and the true believers, having seized control of the party after decades on the sidelines, will not give it back to the smoothies easily. I think she's being understated in the centrist dad media mostly because that's what they want to happen, and if there's one thing we know about the centrist dad media from the last five or so years it is that they do not learn their lessons regarding their own groupthink.
I would have them neck and neck. Lisa Nandy has no chance, however much the remaining Blair sympathisers in the press want her to have one.
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