General gaming discussion

[Disco]

Yeah you either get hit and die or (presumably, because I never managed it) get out like a normal mission for a slightly different ending. I'm not as forgiving of it as you though, I thought it a fucking awful thing to throw in at the end. I tended to approach the levels like little puzzles so it was particularly annoying not to be able to do that on the last (really cool) level.

[Ian]

I'll spoiler this in case anybody else has bought it:
The whole thing is a revenge thriller, dying to get revenge is in keeping with the sort of movie they're aping.

For me, I mean. I totally get why it'd piss you off and to be honest I'm not sure why it doesn't piss me off because I'm normally the first to rage at games for changing the rules as it suits them or for a final boss.

I hope I'm not turning into some "it's an artistic decision, maaaaaaan....!" dweeb.

I'm going to give it a go over the weekend but it occurs to me that given I'm not ever going to kill every enemy on that level I'm probably trying to kill way more than I actually need to.

[Disco]

Having seen both endings I'd agree with that, it felt like the right thing I just found it mechanically frustrating not having at least a courtesy checkpoint. One of those times I felt a game wasn't respecting my time, out of the blue as well because I was loving it up until that point.

[ItalAussie]

I really enjoyed doing the last level from scratch each time, to be honest. It didn't take me longer than one gaming session, and it meant that the early stage of each run was a well-oiled machine by the time I was done. There was something really enjoyable about absolutely nailing down the precise series of moves required for the early sequences, then wildly improvising as things get less familiar in the back half.

[Disco]

Randomized Link to the Past is so good, I had no idea this kind of thing was a thing.

[Boydy]

I bought Ronin. Not sure I like it.

[Dark Soldier]

The Golf Club 2 review:

Servers are beyond fucked. Tried for 30 minutes, couldn't even buy any new clothing. Quit.

10/10

[Boydy]

phonics and anyone else. Consolevania is back. I think you might have mentioned this to me before but I'm not sure. Is the only way to see to give them money via patreon?

[Ian]

I bought Ronin. Not sure I like it.

Really? Huh. Despite the differences I really had it down as a Likes Gunpoint = Like Ronin open goal.

[Boydy]

Really? Huh. Despite the differences I really had it down as a Likes Gunpoint = Like Ronin open goal.

I found the controls a bit weird. And the jumping cursor thing doesn't seem to be very good. Also I'm a bit crap at it.

[Shindig]

The Golf Club 2 review:

Servers are beyond fucked. Tried for 30 minutes, couldn't even buy any new clothing. Quit.

10/10

Fine and dandy on PS4. Jumped into the Free for All society, started a round and rage quit the second hole because I'm so shit at putting. The game did slow to a crawl when I switched my golfer's gender on my first day with the game, mind.

[Disco]

I found the controls a bit weird. And the jumping cursor thing doesn't seem to be very good. Also I'm a bit crap at it.

That annoyed me initially, especially as there's a tooltip explicitly telling you that the arc is a lie. If he knew that why not just code it properly?

[Dark Soldier]

Fine and dandy on PS4. Jumped into the Free for All society, started a round and rage quit the second hole because I'm so shit at putting. The game did slow to a crawl when I switched my golfer's gender on my first day with the game, mind.

I'm on PS4. If I go offline its fine, if I could play at like 10am it'd probably be fine. 6pm it was a fucking disaster zone.

[Mike]

phonics and anyone else. Consolevania is back. I think you might have mentioned this to me before but I'm not sure. Is the only way to see to give them money via patreon?
It's been pretty good too

[Ian]

That annoyed me initially, especially as there's a tooltip explicitly telling you that the arc is a lie. If he knew that why not just code it properly?

Isn't it only a lie when you make contact with other things? Like if you hoof an enemy into the air first? Otherwise I've found it pretty reliable, despite the warning from that tooltip.

[Boydy]

It's not even that. It seems to move around terribly when I'm trying to aim it and it's an absolute pain to get to point where I want. It's like I'm using a terrible mouse that barely works but I'm not because my mouse is grand for everything else.

[Disco]

Isn't it only a lie when you make contact with other things? Like if you hoof an enemy into the air first? Otherwise I've found it pretty reliable, despite the warning from that tooltip.

Either way it adds frustration in the place of challenge which is never good.

[Ian]

I quickly learned to ignore it when either enemies or those floaty ledges were involved but you're probably right, you shouldn't really have to do that.

[Shindig]

The Golf Club 2 also has a problem where it gets a little framey when judging your swings. I'll not put it down to my poor ability from ... everywhere but it definitely fiddles with your speed. Had my first disconnect before but the game tends to pick where you left off and I got back online after two attempts.

18.6 handicap. Room for improvement. Found the shot limit for my first time. I knew there was one but didn't realise it was +7. Fucking hell. Given how they supported the first one, what actually is new in 2?

[Dark Soldier]

Its always been around +7, 10-12 shots is the cap. Apparently there's a patch and server issues are much improved so I'll be jumping on when home in an hour or so.

[Shindig]

Awesome. I'm not complaining about the limit. More my ability to actually find it. :moop:

[Dark Soldier]

I'm using Tour clubs, that shows the huge difference between them both. Not had an over par round yet, but just played Little Brook at -8 and Denali at E. The physics, shot system and look of the game is much improved. Driving on Tour is nails as fuck but worth it, and the added spin on shorter clubs is a Godsend.

[Disco]

I bought Dragon Age 3 yesterday, I'll be interested to see if the criticism is as overblown as it was for the previous game.

I'm not sure I'll ever find out as I've given up part way through the opening mission, the controls are that bad. No click to move, no queueing abilities/orders, you can't rebind half the controls, and you have to hold down a button to attack something. If I wanted to play Mass Effect I'd have given myself a lobotomy and bought that instead.

Awful.

[Ian]

So HITMAN is better than Absolution was, thank goodness, but they've still not perfected the disguises. This guy knows most of the employees, I getcha, I like that addition. it makes sense. How does he recognise me from behind when I'm in my hazmat suit?

Really enjoying it so far though.


I'm not sure I'll ever find out as I've given up part way through the opening mission, the controls are that bad. No click to move, no queueing abilities/orders, you can't rebind half the controls, and you have to hold down a button to attack something. If I wanted to play Mass Effect I'd have given myself a lobotomy and bought that instead.

Awful.

I like 3 better than 2 but it's done the same as I've read about Andromeda and they've decided that what people want is a single-player MMO. I can't remember enough of it to say what I thought the shit stuff was, though.

[Disco]

I can't complain about the structure or missions as I've barely seen any, I bounced so hard off the atrocity of a control scheme that I doubt I'll ever go back.

[Ian]

I genuinely don't remember the controls bothering me but I think I was possibly just glad in the first instance that I wasn't playing as sodding Hawke.

[Disco]

It plays like it used to be a third person shooter, there's no way to play it as a tactical rpg like you could with the other two (the 'tactical' camera, brilliantly, doesn't work inside buildings). I couldn't even find an option to auto-pause at the start of combat at which point I realised it was just Mass Effect with swords rather than anything approaching the other two.

I didn't mind Hawke (the lady version at least), in fact I'd have been happy to have another game in the same style as the second. :gs:

[Shindig]

That Crash trilogy actually looks really nice. It's had actual work done to it. Looks easy as owt, though.

[Ian]

I'm enjoying Wolfenstein: TNO but these between-mission fetch-quests are a pain in the arse. It's all well and good having BJ mutter that he feels like he's "a damned errand boy" when he's given one of them but that knowing joke doesn't stop them being a shit idea. I just murdered four million Nazis and their little dogs, too, so maybe let somebody else do the legwork dickheads.

[Shindig]

Summer Games Done Quick is go.

www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick

[phonics]

881807677315309569

Well that's depressing

[Bernanke]

UK. :sick:

[phonics]

I watched my mate play it last night, fuck me it looked boring. Hold a direction and occasionally press x.

[wullie]

I never liked Crash Bandicoot, I tend to hate anything where you're running towards the camera. Too nervy and tense, or with Super Soccer on SNES just a load of shit.

[phonics]

Sometimes you go left!

[wullie]

Aw shit. The biggest platform exclusive launch of 2017 just got that little bit bigger.

[Pleb]

It's great but it's buggy as fuck :sherlock:

[Disco]

881807677315309569

Well that's depressing

What am I missing here?

[phonics]

That an HD remaster of a set of super shitty games, that probably cost a few hundred grand, had a better launch than one of the best looking and most innovative open world experiences of the year, that probably cost near to a hundred million.

Can't see a bean counter try to address that issue.

[Disco]

Were they shitty? I really don't know as I've never played them but they're certainly loved and have the advantage of many years of nostalgia, doubly so over something that has yet to move out of 'next big thing hyperbole' territory.

[John]

I loved the Crash Bandicoot games, but I prefer to leave things I'm nostalgic over in the past, in case they do turn out to actually be crap.

It's far from surprising, and not at all depressing, that a full remaster of them is selling well. And the amount of money they cost is so irrelevant it's actually stupid to bring it up.

[phonics]

Yes, ROI has never affected budgets in the video-game industry.

[John]

It's a remaster of a game that was already one of the best selling games on the console. Budget is utterly irrelevant.

[ItalAussie]

I loved the Crash Bandicoot games, but I prefer to leave things I'm nostalgic over in the past, in case they do turn out to actually be crap.
Yeah, I played the original again last year. It's possible the later ones might hold up better, is all I'm saying.

[wullie]

On the nostalgia tip, I've got a SNES mini pre-ordered for September. A lot of the times when you go back games aren't as good as you remember but watching the games I already know only F-Zero looks like it's aged badly.

[John]

I'll get on board the HD remake train when someone does Pandemonium!

[Boydy]

I watched my mate play it last night, fuck me it looked boring. Hold a direction and occasionally press x.

Is that not generally how platform games work?

I never liked Crash Bandicoot though. First game I had for the original Playstation and I was shit at it.

[Dark Soldier]

The Golf Club 2 is easily the best game of golf I've ever played in a videogame. The bounces, the hooks and slices, the way the ball rolls, the wind, the lie of the ball hampering your shot (if you're on a downhill lie it takes distance off, distance on if uphill). Its so much different to the first in everything bar putting, which is only slightly different.

Slowly mastering the tour swing, can get perfect/perfect tempo with the line in the cone now. Still hook/slice a little. Went -30 through four rounds on St Andrews earlier in 12mph+ winds.

HB have nailed it now the servers work.

[wullie]

The game with the biggest ratio of 'loved it then/hate it now' would definitely be Destruction Derby on PS1. I'm sure you only yammed into other cars in about two settings and that was it. I'm not even looking at videos to confirm it and ruin the memories.

[Disco]

Driving backwards was the way to win that game.

[7om]

Has anyone had a go on Pubg? There's a guy I watch on Twitch who plays it every now and then and it looks brilliant. The only thing holding me back is the idea of playing a shooter with a keyboard and mouse which I have no experience with. There's also apparently an aimbot hack going around but I haven't seen that in game yet.

Anyone played it / recommend it?

[Mike]

Me and Baz play it. It's utterly brilliant.
He's posted some videos of us playing (hiding in bathrooms and being useless)

[Lufcdanny]

The Golf Club 2 is easily the best game of golf I've ever played in a videogame. The bounces, the hooks and slices, the way the ball rolls, the wind, the lie of the ball hampering your shot (if you're on a downhill lie it takes distance off, distance on if uphill). Its so much different to the first in everything bar putting, which is only slightly different.

Slowly mastering the tour swing, can get perfect/perfect tempo with the line in the cone now. Still hook/slice a little. Went -30 through four rounds on St Andrews earlier in 12mph+ winds.

HB have nailed it now the servers work.

I picked this up Sunday night and have to say I am loving it too. The fact you went -30 on any course blows my mind. I was new to the game so expected it to be Tiger Woods with better graphics but the realism on this is fantastic. I finish most rounds 1 or 2 over or under. And its so refreshing to play a game that isn't just swing and win. I remember on tiger woods on the par fives using a driver on my 2nd shot from the fairway, try that on this and the results are comical.

Only thing I dont like so far (due to not understanding it) are the career mode and society. What's the benefit of leveling it? I know it lets you play more events over a season but you chose when the season is over so why not just keep doing new seasons with 4 events....

[7om]

Me and Baz play it. It's utterly brilliant.
He's posted some videos of us playing (hiding in bathrooms and being useless)

Do you use a keyboard and mouse?

[Dark Soldier]

I picked this up Sunday night and have to say I am loving it too. The fact you went -30 on any course blows my mind. I was new to the game so expected it to be Tiger Woods with better graphics but the realism on this is fantastic. I finish most rounds 1 or 2 over or under. And its so refreshing to play a game that isn't just swing and win. I remember on tiger woods on the par fives using a driver on my 2nd shot from the fairway, try that on this and the results are comical.

Only thing I dont like so far (due to not understanding it) are the career mode and society. What's the benefit of leveling it? I know it lets you play more events over a season but you chose when the season is over so why not just keep doing new seasons with 4 events....

The career mode and all that is for those who want to play a single player aspect. The real meat of the game is in the courses created by many fantastic designers, and joining societies. If you can't find any societies, sign up here:

http://tgctours.com/

and go to the forums, there's loads of them who welcome people of all skill levels. TGCTours mirrors the real life golf schedule too, play for virtual cash, world rankings etc so if you want to get involved in that aspect its worth it. Ya don't have to play every week, just whenever you want or can, 4 rounds a week. The TGC2 season kicks off at the end of this month. You do Q-School over six courses, get your score, submit it, and you're given a card from either PGA/Euro through to the amateur ranks of CCA through to Z. I'm on Euro, hence the -30. Was top 30 in the world at one point.

Going 1 or 2 over as a brand new player is impressive regardless of which clubs you use, TGC has always been the hardest console golf game around. If you're on PS4 feel free to add me (DorkSirjur), I'm around most nights/weekends and its easy to join into a round I'm on or vice versa.

[Ian]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/07/04/evil-genius-2-announced/

Well that's a welcome surprise.

[Lufcdanny]

The career mode and all that is for those who want to play a single player aspect. The real meat of the game is in the courses created by many fantastic designers, and joining societies. If you can't find any societies, sign up here:

http://tgctours.com/

and go to the forums, there's loads of them who welcome people of all skill levels. TGCTours mirrors the real life golf schedule too, play for virtual cash, world rankings etc so if you want to get involved in that aspect its worth it. Ya don't have to play every week, just whenever you want or can, 4 rounds a week. The TGC2 season kicks off at the end of this month. You do Q-School over six courses, get your score, submit it, and you're given a card from either PGA/Euro through to the amateur ranks of CCA through to Z. I'm on Euro, hence the -30. Was top 30 in the world at one point.

Going 1 or 2 over as a brand new player is impressive regardless of which clubs you use, TGC has always been the hardest console golf game around. If you're on PS4 feel free to add me (DorkSirjur), I'm around most nights/weekends and its easy to join into a round I'm on or vice versa.

Appreciate that, massive help. Is there any particular course designers to follow? Do you need to be in a society with a high amount of members and a high level? For example, if me and my mate are the only 2 members of a society will there be parts of the game that I'm missing out on? Yeah the -30 sounds unbelievable the way the game plays.

My favourite part of the game so far is how satisfying a birdie is on this. Ive got the odd eagle but you gotta play very well to even be in with a shout. I play on PC and after a quick google search it shows that courses are cross platform but doesn't say anything about playing cross platform or using your ghost.

[Dark Soldier]

Appreciate that, massive help. Is there any particular course designers to follow? Do you need to be in a society with a high amount of members and a high level? For example, if me and my mate are the only 2 members of a society will there be parts of the game that I'm missing out on? Yeah the -30 sounds unbelievable the way the game plays.

My favourite part of the game so far is how satisfying a birdie is on this. Ive got the odd eagle but you gotta play very well to even be in with a shout. I play on PC and after a quick google search it shows that courses are cross platform but doesn't say anything about playing cross platform or using your ghost.

For courses designers, the six best I'd list as:

Scarpacci (My favourite designer and a fantastic geezer)
ArticFury85
CrazyCanuck1985 (known for stunning courses, and Canuck, aka fucking crazy, greens)
Reebdog
TasteGW
theCLV (The best real course recreator out there)

Worth keeping a check on here too: http://tgctours.proboards.com/board/9/completed-courses

I'd also highly recommend St. Andrews and Magnolia currently, both amazing courses to play and fantastic version. You don't miss any parts of the game by not being in a society, or only having mates in one, bar winning more in game cash to buy frivolous shit, really. Most societies have weekly tournaments for fun, however.

A very quick tip I can give you is elevation/downhill. For every 3 feet of uphill, add 1 yard to your shot. So say its 165 yards 21 feet uphill, it'll be roughly 172 exactly to the pin (not including wind into the calculation). Do the same for downhill, so if its 220 yards down 30, its 210 yards to the pin exactly (give or take a yard or two on these estimations due to lie as well).

Putting, use the marker, always, it gives leeway on your putt. So a 15 footer up 10" is 25 feet of power or a little more. 30 feet down one foot will be 18 feet of power. Move the marker to the answer after doing the math, move it left or right due to break, then aim at the marker, not the hole. The marker will give you a 2-3 leeway on power so it allows the ball to drop a bit easier.

Wind, and the rest of the math is still up in the air as we all get used to it, but the math side won't be as important as TGC1 (math was everything in that game) due to the loft boxes being less exploitable.

[Dark Soldier]

Oh and the putting tips depend on green speed, which you can see above your putter in the top right. The higher the number, the faster the greens, 187 is fastest, so it putts like shit off a shovel, 101 is like treacle. Adapt to that, too.

[Lufcdanny]

Ill give them all a follow tonight and hopefully play through a few of the courses. Thanks for all that, a lot clearer now and I look forward to achieving my 30 under round tonight! Just didnt want to be losing out on things by being part of a society with only 2 people in it and stuck on level 3. Putting at first was an absolute nightmare, I was 4 putting on greens at one point.

[Dark Soldier]

I three putted from 7 feet yesterday :D Don't be thinking a score like -30 is a regular occurrence, I only worked my swing out yesterday.I'm mainly averaging about -4 or -5 a round.

[7om]

It took me about three hours and my PC almost went out the window, but I got my PS4 controller to work on Pubg and it's brilliant :drool:

Had a great game just now. Got down to the final 10 and I was hiding in a roadside hut. The circle closes in and I'm outside it so I make a run for it and there's a guy running alongside me at my 10 o'clock position. I get up close enough, couple of blasts with a shotgun and finish him off with a pistol. I then run into a house and make my way up to the first floor and there's a fucking guy hiding in there. He puts a few bullets in me, I return fire but he finishes me off and I finish 9th. My hands were shaking afterwards. This game is amazing.

[Dark Soldier]

Aye I can't wait for it to come out on the Xbox later this year, its about the only PC game I really wanna play.

[7om]

Aye I can't wait for it to come out on the Xbox later this year, its about the only PC game I really wanna play.

Yeah, the only reason I took the plunge is because it looks like it will take ages to come out on PS4. It really is top quality, though. The adrenaline rush is like no other game I've experienced.

[Patje]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/07/04/evil-genius-2-announced/

Well that's a welcome surprise.

Awesome. Loved the first one, shoving someone in a giant mixer for interrogation always counts as a win.

[Disco]

Yeah, the only reason I took the plunge is because it looks like it will take ages to come out on PS4. It really is top quality, though. The adrenaline rush is like no other game I've experienced.

Anyone wondering what all the Dayz hype was about back in the day, it was this x100.

[Mike]

Do you use a keyboard and mouse?

We do.

[Ian]

I'm watching a Let's Play of RE7 and quite enjoying it. Well, I'm actually watching my second playthrough because Game Grumps were doing the VR version but then stopped so I've picked up with "Two Best Friends Play..."

It doesn't make me want to play it myself but it looks a good game. The lighting / shadows are ace, even just looking at somebody else playing it.

[Dark Soldier]

I'm watching a Let's Play of RE7 and quite enjoying it. Well, I'm actually watching my second playthrough because Game Grumps were doing the VR version but then stopped so I've picked up with "Two Best Friends Play..."

It doesn't make me want to play it myself but it looks a good game. The lighting / shadows are ace, even just looking at somebody else playing it.

Its goes from exceptional after the first 2 hours to varying between bang average and very good for the rest. The opening is the closest we've had for a while to a proper horror experience in gaming.

Solid 8/10 as a whole though.

[Ian]

Yeah, I mean as soon as:

the goo-monsters start appearing it's already, like, "Oh it's just a monster shooty thing now." Not totally but those bits feel like it.

As you say though, the opening bit is superb.

[Ian]

On the flipside I've now watched the first part of Many a True Nerd doing The Evil Within.

It looks like utter shit. :D

[Dark Soldier]

I bought it for a fiver, quit within 15 minutes and gave it away. Yes, yes it is.

[Ian]

The best bit so far is that the character nearly gets his calf chainsaw'd off, somehow manages to outrun chainsawman down a corridor into a lift, and then when he emerges from the lift is FULLY HEALED and no longer limps. There's a sort of perverse curiosity in watching games where either the developers couldn't give a shit, were genuinely inept or were fucked over by other things.

[7om]

Anyone wondering what all the Dayz hype was about back in the day, it was this x100.

From the small amount I've seen of DayZ, isn't it pretty aimless? It just seems to be endless running with no actual goal. With pubg you're always forced to move towards the restricting play zone and so it forces engagement. I don't think I've been in a game that's gone over 30 minutes.

[Mike]

I have DayZ and PUBG and Battlegrounds is way more fun to play.

[Disco]

I meant the mod not the shit new one.

The tense encounters they're looking to re-create in these games were the ones we enjoyed in the mod, they were less frequent but the investment in your current character was much greater so they felt like they had more meaning. You can track the evolution of this stuff from the original Dayz mod (and other modes like Wasteland etc) through Battle Royale in Arma 2 & 3 right up to the recent spate of arena deathmatch things like Culling and Plunkbat.

[Dark Soldier]

Still got it lads


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcePG74e-kc

[Lufcdanny]

:drool::drool::drool:

I'm yet to get a hole in one but I imagine it feels glorious. Played a round yesterday and finished E through 17. Bogeyed the last to finish 1 over. Raging. Went straight to profile and purchased some ridiculous clothing and now I look like a clown on the tee.

Played an online course too and it was amazing, cant remember the name of it but it had the word Bear in it and the last hole green was in the shape of a bears face. (Sounds shit I know)

[Baz]

Wanna squad up sometime 7om?

Add me on teh steams.

[Dark Soldier]

:drool::drool::drool:

I'm yet to get a hole in one but I imagine it feels glorious. Played a round yesterday and finished E through 17. Bogeyed the last to finish 1 over. Raging. Went straight to profile and purchased some ridiculous clothing and now I look like a clown on the tee.

Played an online course too and it was amazing, cant remember the name of it but it had the word Bear in it and the last hole green was in the shape of a bears face. (Sounds shit I know)

Nice man, sounds like you're steadily improving. Took me about 2-3 months of playing TGC1 before I was consistently going under par, its rewarding when it all starts to click though.

[7om]

Wanna squad up sometime 7om?

Add me on teh steams.

Sure, although weekdays I'll only be on past midnight UK time. Weekends should be ok. What is your Steam name?

EDIT: Actually, I'm friends with Mike on there. I should be able to find you through him.

[Ian]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/07/06/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-import-nemesis/

Pretty sure I killed the one who was the biggest pain in my arse as soon as I got chance.

[Ian]

Steamworld Heist has saved me from one of those evenings where I've got loads of things to watch / play and didn't want to do any of them.

Cracking little game.

[Dark Soldier]

PUBG is essentially the greatest game ever

https://twitter.com/m0ron/status/882403175671619584

[Baz]

Sure, although weekdays I'll only be on past midnight UK time. Weekends should be ok. What is your Steam name?

EDIT: Actually, I'm friends with Mike on there. I should be able to find you through him.Ace. We often play Sunday evenings but not sure what time that is for you. Do you have Discord and a mic?

[Patje]

Steamworld Heist has saved me from one of those evenings where I've got loads of things to watch / play and didn't want to do any of them.

Cracking little game.

It's on my wishlist, though I'm thinking of getting it on the Ipad.

But yeah, looks ace.

[7om]

Ace. We often play Sunday evenings but not sure what time that is for you. Do you have Discord and a mic?

I have a PS4 headset but I've never tried it on my PC so I don't know if that'll work. Never even heard of Discord.

[John]

PUBG is essentially the greatest game ever

https://twitter.com/m0ron/status/882403175671619584

I love that. Might have to get it.

[Ian]

I have a PS4 headset but I've never tried it on my PC so I don't know if that'll work. Never even heard of Discord.

Discord is excellent. You should definitely use it for any PC multiplayering you may be doing.

[Ian]

The excellent Steamworld Heist has led me to have to make a surprising and very difficult choice.

Is Steamworld Heist's robot band better than Machinarium's?

[Shindig]

Do you have to find shitty instruments for your heist? I'm going to play / cheat my way through Deus Ex. It's sat there long enough and I need to know.

[Ian]

Finished Wolfenstein: The New Order. Really, really liked it. It's got a really weird clash of tones but they do a better job of tying it all together than you'd expect.

Interesting that they largely keep the weapons fairly straightforward, other than the magic laser thing that gets more and more powerful.

[Shindig]

Yeah, Blazkowycz going on about feelings and shit is real weird. Especially when he's saying, "Wake up, you're dead!" to Nazi Commandants.

[Ian]

One minute he's dual-wielding auto-shotguns against SUPERSOLDATEN and the next he's talking about shit that happened in his childhood. And yet because the animation on the characters is great and the voice actors aren't spewing ham everywhere it somehow hangs together. I don't think I'll bother with The Old Blood but I'm looking forward to The New Colossus, which I did not realise is the name of the poem that's on the Statue of Liberty's pedestal.

[Ian]

made a start on The Signal from Tolva and enjoying it so far. One bit in particular of note is an interior area where it has portal-type things that you wouldn't notice outwith scan mode but reposition you in the ship. In the first instance before you realise what's happening it has a slightly disorienting, bigger-on-the-inside type effect.

EDIT: Was just looking to see if any of the gaming channels I've started watching have a Let's Play of it. I was looking at the comments (I know, I know, I normally don't) and it says: "This game is like a borderlands clone with less polish to me."

I can only assume he hasn't watched any of the 40-minute video he's commenting on.

[Disco]

The thing I missed early on are the three little proximity bars that point you towards various types of goodies.

[Ian]

Thuwha? I'll need to keep an eye out for that.

See the lorebook in the gamefiles, am I better reading that before/after the game or doesn't it matter?

[Disco]

There are three little coloured bars on the HUD that fill up as you get close to signals, the red hexagon things, and normal loot/scrap. Either the game doesn't tell you what they are or I completely missed it, they're bloody useful when you're clearing out areas. The lorebook is absolutely not required reading but it does a nice job of framing what's going on. I think I read it when it was about half way through.

[7om]

Mike Baz

I've been trying to get my headset to work and I've realised I need a splitter to go into the microphone and audio jack which I'll buy off Amazon this week. If you want to squad up before this thing arrives, I'm fine with that but I won't be able to talk with you.

[Mike]

Sounds good. I'll let you know on Steam if we play. We are rubbish though, be warned.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tom is tragic at everything.

[7om]

Says the guy who almost slit his throat while shaving his head.

[Baz]

Sounds good. I'll let you know on Steam if we play. We are rubbish though, be warned.Speak for yourself. You don't call yourself w1ck3d_5k1llz without being amazing.

[Ian]

So I've done at least one run of all the Hitman episodes. It's a squillion times better than Absolution though probably not quite as memorable as Blood Money's better moments. But it does some really good stuff..... just not the dreadful, barely-there story. The disguises are good and work much better than the well-intentioned changes in Absolution, the levels largely look the business (though Colorado is reeeaaaally dull) and I think the Intel / Opportunities stuff generally works really well. I've done repeat runs of some of the other missions to raise my mastery and discover other routes and I suspect I shall be doing more of that in future. As well as whatever this 'escalation' stuff is about that I've not looked at yet.

I'm also loving The Signal from Tolva. I love the diary-type entries and research logs you find and how they give you a sense of what's going on without it being a real story (so far) as such. I love that the combat and enemy AI are robust enough to provide some really tense battles. I had one there where I ran into one faction, the Zealots, and was trying to fend a few of those off myself when a patrol of Bandits turned up behind me, forcing me to pop my shield and leg it for cover. But those factions don't like each other any more than they like me, so while I reloaded and let my shield / AOE ability recharge they knocked some lumps out of each other. Eventually it was down to two Bandits and me, with my health low. I took potshots at them to get them to waste their shield charge and after trying to circle me to no effect* they rushed me. So I crouched behind cover so they couldn't get a shot then popped my shield, ran at them head-on and hit my AOE blast ability which weakened them enough for me to finish them off. And because of those recharging abilities there's a proper ebb and flow to the lengthier battles as well. If you can trick them into using their shields with pot-shots then you've got some more options on your hands, though if you're outnumbered that doesn't always help. And your loadout will make a big different here too. Surprisingly deep and I'm loving it. The other robots basically carry on without you for the most part as well. I have had a few instances where I've been on higher ground scouting an area out and then heard a gunfight going on. Sometimes it's my faction fighting enemies, sometimes enemies fighting each other. Fun stuff.

* The AI is mostly fairly basic and it's hard to tell with some of it how much is accidental and they've hit upon something that works or whether Big Robot made the AI to behave like this intentionally. Your AI chums sometimes take really weird, circuitous routes when you're just mooching about and when you're being flanked it looks much the same so perhaps the pathfinding both in and out of combat is totally intentional. It works anyway, and makes the whole thing seem more complex than it possibly.

EDIT: Christ, dunno when the last time I wrote that long a post was.

[Disco]

Good innit, there's a big open area of the map later on that can turn into a huge shooting gallery.

[Ian]

I gather there's very little chance of it happening but co-op would be fun in this.

[Disco]

I read something when it dame out where they said they wouldn't be doing it, which is a shame.

[Ian]

Yeah, I know with Sir it came out after but I think they'd said they had it in mind whereas this they seem to be staunchly behind the line of having developed it as a single-player game. Which I'm fine with and I'm loving it, but crank up the difficulty or volume of the bots and there could have been some co-op good times to be had.

Also, this Steam card mining thing means I've had to turn off "x has started playing y" pop up notifications because of it having Mahow playing a different fucking game every two minutes. Or what feels like it.

[Shindig]

Well, I've completed the set and bought the Dark Souls 3 DLC. Still catching up with SGDQ. Breath of the Wild's up and comments are disabled which meant I had to manually find the start of the run. A minor inconvenience to avoid the abuse hurled at the transgender runner, I guess.

[phonics]

My flat mate has gone from calling me a geek for watching esports back when SC2 came out to watching people play Day-Z for multiple hours per night. At this point he probably consumes more video game tv content per day than I do and I watch everything that Giant Bomb and Polygon put out.

We're winning. Next year I'm going to try sit him down in front of SGDQ with games he likes.

[Dark Soldier]

Red tees :happycry:

http://i.imgur.com/tLqOJer.jpg

Think I've got the swing down now.

[Shindig]

I wish I could golf. At least I'm improving at Dark Souls 2. Might move into challenge runs soon.

[Mike]

Watch me and Baz be duffers on Battlegrounds live

https://youtu.be/S-mE4NGLSlI

[Ian]

I am 50% of their viewer base. :drool:

[Ian]

And now it's told me the stream ended right as they were in the middle of murdering some poor dude on his own.

[Mike]

Twitch streaming is better
twitch.tv/mikeakehurst

[Baz]

And now it's told me the stream ended right as they were in the middle of murdering some poor dude on his own.:D

We're going back in when Mike's internet has stopped pretending it's no good.

What's the live stream quality like? And can you tell whose voice is who?

[Mike]

Going back live now
http://twitch.tv/mikeakehurst

[Mike]

Pff its not letting me

I assume my flatmate is downloading :(

[Ian]

:D

We're going back in when Mike's internet has stopped pretending it's no good.

What's the live stream quality like? And can you tell whose voice is who?

Quality was okay. I only knew who was who because of who was in the chat window and saw me in there.

[phonics]

EVO finals are going now.

Tekken 7 is in the losers bracket and it'll be Smash Bros. and Street Fighter 5 to finish off.

[Lufcdanny]

Red tees :happycry:

http://i.imgur.com/tLqOJer.jpg

Think I've got the swing down now.

Out of interest what clubs do you use? I have been doing the career mode template seasons to improve and I'm getting there... Slowly. Definitely seeing improvements.

Finished a 4 round event on 12 under and the guy in second was 5 over. However only playing on Easy difficulty right now which seems realistic to my current standard. When I play the one round events on the harder courses with tough greens and strong winds the leader usually ends up on 2 or 3 over, and I'm about that level. Currently sitting in 3rd overall for the season with 5 events left. I am absolutely loving it, even if I am 10 over through 9, I can still watch out for the Frenchman in 1st and the American in 2nd and hope they are doing just as terrible.

Played a few courses with a mate last night and just discovered "Turn Play". Makes the online play so much better that I get to watch his shot and then he watches mine. Adds pressure to each hole instead of just trying to beat a score he has already posted.

[phonics]

EVO finals are going now.

Tekken 7 is in the losers bracket and it'll be Smash Bros. and Street Fighter 5 to finish off.

An American got to the SFV finals only to get smashed. Lol.

[Dark Soldier]

Out of interest what clubs do you use? I have been doing the career mode template seasons to improve and I'm getting there... Slowly. Definitely seeing improvements.

Tour clubs, and I use default bag apart from removing a wood and bringing in a GW which is a Godsend around the greens. I basically go 279yard Driver then a leap down to 245yards as my next club, but deloft that and you get some beautiful roll on it so I can hit the 250-270 yard range easily unless way uphill. Oh, forgot, I swapped a club or two for Hybrids too, very good clubs.

Red tees = Driveable par 4s aplenty with Tour clubs :D

I normally play off black tees but that was a Society event. Kudos on the improvement man, its a damn good feeling. Does the French guy have a surname of Zito or Fritto, perhaps? ;)

[Shindig]

An American got to the SFV finals only to get smashed. Lol.

Dunno when I'll catch up with those. I'll give SFV, Tekken, KI and ... whatever Neverrealm's are about. MK and Injustice, presumably.

[Mike]

Going back live now
http://twitch.tv/mikeakehurst

We're on now as long as my wifi holds up

[Shindig]

One more boss down in the Dark Souls II DLC. Aava's an alright scrap. Like Sif but if he was a tiger and smaller. They seem to have done a thing where durability really becomes a factor on bosses, though. This and Sinh had me readying alternative weapons in case my main didn't last the fight. I don't fancy doing Ancient Dragon. That is the worst boss in the series and beating him once was enough. I think you can farm the giants in Black Gulch for the fifth soul and then I'll take on Vendrick.

EDIT: They patched that out. From, you bastards. :(

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0n_9gM3DCc

Can't say I've had this happen to me ... but I want it to.

Also, Dark Souls now has a boss rush mod.

[Dark Soldier]

:youpi:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2e94GvKRTY

[Dark Soldier]

Got a PS4 Pro for £120. Love living in a shit area, some cunt nabbed three and four PSVRs, selling em off cheap. PSVR was £160 but aint worth it imo, despite the wow factor.

[Boydy]

How long before he steals it back and sells it to someone else?

[Dark Soldier]

Tbv he only steals from lorries and/or supermarkets. Used to get me brand new 360 games and sell 'em me for a tenner. Give him a list, the mad cunt.

[Boydy]

Oh, that's fair game then. I thought he was robbing houses.

[Disco]

Fair game?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fair game?

Fuck the corporations.

He's a modern day Robin Hood.

[Shindig]

They've probably put PS Plus up by a tenner specifically for that truckload. Victimless crime? Do me a favour.

[Mellberg]

Disco's in bed with the man.

[Shindig]

Psychonauts. It's good. Some god awful camera bollocks with one of the bosses but I'm at the Milkman level and the game has hit its stride.

[Ian]

So as well as bits and pieces of Many A True Nerd and my apparent quest to consume as much Game Grumps as possible I'm watching "Two Best Friends Play Resident Evil 7." Which is probably the way I'm happiest seeing it.

What other good Let's Play-type channels should I be giving a look?

[Pleb]

Achievement Hunter (https://www.youtube.com/user/AchievementHunter) can be good at times along with their LetsPlay channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/LetsPlay) which has other people use their network if your running out of ideas.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvBrn7sZ-hw

... this will end well.

[Disco]

Watch Car Boys.

[phonics]

I found Car Boys insufferably dull after a couple of episodes but I am enjoying the 'We go to hell' thing or whatever they're doing, mostly because I'm fascinated in this emulator that gives you a freecam inside an emulator and watching all the graphics tricks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf9g102WlBM

[Ian]

Tacoma is out, and at £15 my job for the weekend is to resist buying it.

[Disco]

I found Car Boys insufferably dull after a couple of episodes

I can absolutely see why you would but I found it nice to have on while I did other things, plus they ended up sliding a really rather good little narrative into it. At the very least get really baked and watch the last episode.

[Disco]

The other Polygon one I liked was Monster Factory, at the very least watch the Second Life episodes, they're the best.

[Shindig]

Tacoma is out, and at £15 my job for the weekend is to resist buying it.

It's ninety minutes.

[Ian]

Is that a "Dishonored is four hours long" ninety minutes?

[Shindig]

How long to beat has it down as under 3 hours that's based on one person. Human shit pile DarksydePhil took 3.5 hours because he's a slow boy.

[Disco]

Rimworld.

Touted to me as Dwarf Fortress but easier to get into and with a UI that doesn't make you want to rip your own fingernails out. Thoughts?

[Ian]

My mate has started it and basically plays it all the time. He says he thinks it's probably the gateway drug to Dwarf Fortress.

I also really enjoyed the RPS AAR of it.

[Shindig]

Okay, I thought The Long Dark was something else when I agreed to review it. Fucking survival simulators. On the plus side, David Hayter's doing a voice in it. Surprise, it's kinda his Snake voice. Looking back at his credits, he's not really been that out of work.

[Dark Soldier]

Streaming The Golf Club 2:

https://www.twitch.tv/darksoldierm8

[Boydy]

Fuck's sake, it was asking me to log in to send you abuse. :(

[Ian]

Telltale Batman has had an update that's causing you to have to redownload the entire game and is apparently rendering people's saves unusable or deleting them or something. Good work, Telltale.

I've back up my folder just in case.

[Shindig]

Turned around on The Long Dark a little. The sandbox mode is the thing. The story mode's a bit of a hatchet job with three episodes still to be released. The review's in so I probably won't go back to it. No more new assignments have come in. I can breathe again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

WWE 2k17 is so broken.

The rankings system makes absolutely no sense.

Whilst US champion I decided to join the rankings for the WWE Championship (that you have to choose which title to go for is shit) and I've been stuck at number 4 for about a year in game. I started a rivalry with number 1 contender Cena and nothing happened, tried with Champion Brock and still at 4th and back to new number 1 contender Orton but I'm still at fourth.

Even fucking Cesaro went from about 9th to number 1 contender after I destroyed Cena and got a shot but I'm stuck, completely.

I even decided to get friendly with 'The Authority' to help push me up the rankings and in doing so I dropped my US title to Sin Cara as they asked me to do so, nothing changed for me but I didn't have to face Sin Cara at a 10th PPV so that's a win I guess.

[Ian]

Look on the bright side, Cord was doomed to wrestle NXT champion seemingly forever but without ever actually getting the title shots in 2k17.

[Disco]

WWE 2k17 is so broken.

The rankings system makes absolutely no sense.

Whilst US champion I decided to join the rankings for the WWE Championship (that you have to choose which title to go for is shit) and I've been stuck at number 4 for about a year in game. I started a rivalry with number 1 contender Cena and nothing happened, tried with Champion Brock and still at 4th and back to new number 1 contender Orton but I'm still at fourth.

Even fucking Cesaro went from about 9th to number 1 contender after I destroyed Cena and got a shot but I'm stuck, completely.

I even decided to get friendly with 'The Authority' to help push me up the rankings and in doing so I dropped my US title to Sin Cara as they asked me to do so, nothing changed for me but I didn't have to face Sin Cara at a 10th PPV so that's a win I guess.

This makes no sense at all. They really have perfected their simulation.

[Ian]

Finished Telltale Batman and very much enjoyed it. As a Telltale game it's pretty much what you'd expect, though one of the better examples of their work.

As a Batman game it does some stuff I really liked.

The most obvious thing is the stuff you do as Bruce. It feels worthwhile and I didn't just spend those sections wanting to get to be Batman again.

I like that it didn't throw twenty million villains into it. There are a few (and some set up or with room to progress their stories) but their presence made sense.

And on that note, it's so refreshing (as much as I love the Rocksteady trilogy) to have a Batman game where the Joker isn't a prominent part of the story. With the ending to this one I suspect he's going to be in season 2 but I'd love it if they sort of hinted at what he's up to and then saved him for the presumably inevitable season 2.

I also really liked the way they did the detective stuff. Batman felt more like a detective in this than in the Rocksteady crimescene stuff, and it was nice to see him doing that in some different types of scenes as well. Most notably the two parts in the Vale house.

[Shindig]

That always annoyed me about the Arkham games. They wheeled out a lot of villains and then only gave a couple a star turn. I was looking forward to Black Mask and the whole assassin plot in Origins and they blow that super early.

[Ian]

Origins was a spectacular disappointment on that front. And as much as I actually quite liked how he was used didn't they all-but-promise that Joker wasn't going to be a big deal in Knight?

I also only just realised the second series of Telltale Batman is out. Or the first episode is, or whatever.

[Shindig]

Yeah, none of the marketing hinted at Joker until the billboard ads hit late on. In a rut at the moment. I need to finish Psychonauts off and then get started on cheating my way through Deus Ex.

[Ian]

I've got XCOM2 on the go but really need to dedicate a couple of hours to getting back into Signal From Tolva. For reasons that may or may not be my fault I've hit a bit that's becoming a bit of a grindy difficulty spike. I probably just need to change my loadout until I get to the next bunker / outpost and then it'll be grand.

[Mike]

Me and Baz are still rubbish on Battlegrounds and are still loving it.

[Shindig]

Threw the towel in on Psychonauts. For some reason, I'm not getting a crucial double jump at the end of Waterloo World. Close enough. Decent game but it peaks at the Milkman Conspiracy and then drops. Plus it's made by the same bastards who decided 90's adventure logic.

"Oh, there's a coin in the fireplace. I'm amazed I didn't see it. What with all the fire." :moop:

[Ian]

Ugggghhh, really? Is there a lot of that? I need to go back to Psychonauts but that could be a dealbreaker. I was loving Grim Fandango until I realised I was loving the setting / characters / story but just using a walk-through for the actual game because even the puzzles I solved myself I got no satisfaction from.

I find this alot with adventure games.

[Shindig]

Yeah, I had a walkthrough at the ready. Waterloo's the first level I've thought it was heavy with it, mind. Maybe my brain's switched off with the walkthrough being so easy to refer to.

[Shindig]

Agents of Mayhem on the download. Played through the tutorial and can't really pigeonhole it yet. Your agents have supers and ults and they've stolen the Overwatch font. Looks like it's mission based so it might not go down the Crackdown-esque route Saints Row IV ran.

[Pleb]

Agents of Mayhem on the download. Played through the tutorial and can't really pigeonhole it yet. Your agents have supers and ults and they've stolen the Overwatch font. Looks like it's mission based so it might not go down the Crackdown-esque route Saints Row IV ran.
I'm hearing from other media sources there are framerate and graphical issues on certain rigs. The lack of review codes apparently didn't help the cause so I'm keen to hear what you think of this game.

I've played the free trail of Saints Row 4 this weekend and found the controller support absolutely atrocious despite the fact I've been using a perfectly decent PS4 controller.

[Dark Soldier]

Golf Club 2:

https://www.twitch.tv/darksoldierm8

[Ian]

So I'm nearly at the end of TBFP's Resi 7 video, still loving it and I love that they're good enough at the game that they're not dying all the time but still more than capable of being scared when shit jumps out at them. Leads to some really funny stuff.

This is definitely how I need to experience games that I'm interested in seeing but don't really want to play.

[Shindig]

Yeah, I'll never play Deadly Premonition or Shenmue, but I'll watch someone play them.

[Raoul Duke]

Been playing Horizon Zero Dawn this weekend. Cracking game overall so far - the story is good, setting interesting and the combat is pretty fun. Lots of variation and tactical options, with some Far Cry-like base clearing stuff too.

[phonics]

Final Fantasy XV will be releasing on PC. Nice. On digital platforms only. Cool?

Just download... 170GB worth of data! Absolute madness.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive got dirt 4 arriving in the post. I played the dirt 3 earlier in the year and it was solid.

[Disco]

Very tempted by Dirt4, been a while since I played a really good racing game and this looks like it would be just the thing.

[Ian]

That's The Signal from Tolva done. It really starts to shift the tone a bit towards the end to build on the sense of weirdness early doors, but the actual very ending is a bit... eh, I dunno. Not very satisfying.

Really enjoyed it overall though.

[wullie]

New Uncharted 4 expansion/standalone thing is out on Wednesday, which crept up nicely. Basically 10 more hours of the same which suits me perfectly. Do games come out on Wednesdays now?

On Fire Pro I've now got a 615-strong roster split across various promotions and eras. I'll never go near 99.9% of them.

[Ian]

How is the game, Wullie? I'll be all over it once it's actually out.

[wullie]

The game itself is ace, it's just a bit rough round the edges with things like slow menu navigation and threadbare with a lot of features still to be added. The good part is that it seems to have outperformed expectation in early access so that'll speed things along.

[SincereTheRebel]

I never played an uncharted game until late last year. Since then ive gone through the three HD remastered versions on the playstation quad. Im on chapter 12 right now on uncharted 4. Franchise is nice.

[Ian]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/08/21/age-of-empires-4-coming-from-company-of-heroes-devs/

This could be good.

[Shindig]

F1 2017 has reminded me how much aerodynamic faff got lodged onto 2000's cars. No six-wheeled Tyrell but they have short versions of Austin and Suzuka. The latter being the twisty first split, rather than the other shortened version that I've only seen in Tourist Trophy. Track detail's a little cack on console but it's running at 60fps.

Come to think of it, the classics selection's a bit erm... new school. Begins in '88 and ends with the 2010 Red Bulls. Includes the 1995 Ferrari which Schumi beat every week. Alonso's 2006 Renault is in there which I think was the last hurrah for the V12s. Wish they could get the sound right in these games.

First race in the career done. Picked McLaren and immediately went for POWERTRAIN UPGRADES. (none of which come into effect for a couple of weeks)

- Nowhere in practice.
- Alonso picked as my first rival (4 tenths off him in FP2)
- 7th in Quali (Alonso in 17th)
- 3rd in the race.

I'm on medium difficulty and the AI cannot pick a pass. Ricciardo got by me temporarily but kindly let me past when he saw how hot I was coming into the penultimate corner. They still can't handle rain either.

[Waffdon]

CoD is back :drool:

Beta is great. Create a new PS4 profile in Hong Kong if you want to download it for free without a code.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ill try that method later when i get home. I have so many games im playing now. I dont really like having more than two in rotation.

[phonics]

It's accessible on all regions now anyway.

[Yevrah]

Games with Gold has these three at the moment:

Trials Fusion (DS?)
Slime Rancher
Red Faction:Armageddon

Talk to me.

[phonics]

Trials Fusion isn't the best but it's still a Trials game.

Slime Rancher is a first person exploring/farming game. Seems ok but nothing great. Kinda No Mans Sky esque but on one planet.

Red Faction: Armageddon is bad, they took an open world destruction game and put you underground for the sequel, don't bother.

[Boydy]

Aren't they free? Why not just give them a go?

[Dark Soldier]

Trials Fusion has a shite world, but fuck me if the gameplay isn't still next level.

[Mike]

Everybody's Golf arrived. It's very charming :)

[Giggles]

Now that I've a laptop coming with a decent graphics card, can you get Tiger Woods/Pro Evo/decent driving game for PC?

[Mike]

Pro Evo comes out on PC, it's always been shit and used a different engine, 2018 though that changes, so hold off a few weeks.
There's LOADS of Driving games, The latest Dirt maybe or Project Cars?
https://www.pcgamesn.com/10-best-racing-games-pc

[Giggles]

Pro Evo comes out on PC, it's always been shit and used a different engine, 2018 though that changes, so hold off a few weeks.
There's LOADS of Driving games, The latest Dirt maybe or Project Cars?
https://www.pcgamesn.com/10-best-racing-games-pc

Cheers. I'll check the specs on a few of those as I was looking at the new F1 game but my card didn't meet the requirements.

[Boydy]

The Golf Club, that DS loves, is on PC. Don't think there's been a Tiger Woods/EA golf game on PC in years now.

You can get Pro Evo, yeah. I think there was some thing about it not being the same as the newest gen console versions (they ported the last gen console versions instead, I think) but I still played and enjoyed it.

I don't know much about driving games, sorry.

[Raoul Duke]

Bought Cities: Skylines on PS4. Wanted to play it for ages and it's meant to be a pretty nice port.

[Giggles]

The Golf Club, that DS loves, is on PC. Don't think there's been a Tiger Woods/EA golf game on PC in years now.

You can get Pro Evo, yeah. I think there was some thing about it not being the same as the newest gen console versions (they ported the last gen console versions instead, I think) but I still played and enjoyed it.

I don't know much about driving games, sorry.

I'll look up that golf one, though WGT does be ok for a bit of a play and runs ok on my shitty desktop. I'd never heard of the one you mentioned.

[phonics]

The EA golf games are tragically awful these days sadly.

[Giggles]

The EA golf games are tragically awful these days sadly.

Have they gone down the shit route of FIFA and Madden where it's all about building some team through swapping/buying fake cards and fuck all about the actual gameplay? Pro Evo is a bit like that too with the master league bollocks (or it was the last time I played a version).

[Mike]

Master League is the same as it's always been, you're thinking of My Club that had the cards.

[Shindig]

You'll be spoilt for choice with racing games on the PC. All Codemaster's stuff and Forza comes to it, as well as the proper sims.

[Giggles]

Master League is the same as it's always been, you're thinking of My Club that had the cards.

That's the thing yeah. All that crap of having 5 different versions of the same player ranging from shit to '99'. The game seems to revolve around that and only that nowadays (FIFA I mean).

[phonics]

Have they gone down the shit route of FIFA and Madden where it's all about building some team through swapping/buying fake cards and fuck all about the actual gameplay? Pro Evo is a bit like that too with the master league bollocks (or it was the last time I played a version).

Nah they're just shit. They haven't made them in years since the Tiger thing blew up and there seems to be about 8 people working on it.

[Dark Soldier]

Yeah Rory McIlroy's Clusterfuck is terrible. The Golf Club 2 is the best but its legit hard, none of this mega spin or hitting a ball precisely where you want everytime.

[Giggles]

They're McIlroy now? No chance I pay money for that cunts face anyway then :D

I'll definitely look up that other one, especially after what DS said. Used to actually not allow myself to use spin on the old TW games as how it worked was too unrealistic.

[Disco]

Dirt 4 and the latest Forza are probably the best choices as far as racing games go, not played the latest F1 game but I've found them to be less well rounded than the others in the past.

[Boydy]

I want The Golf Club but I'm not paying over £20 for it so I'm waiting on a sale.

[Dark Soldier]

Use standard clubs til you work the math out a bit. Or Player clubs if feeling confident. Do not use Tour clubs from the get go :happycry:

I use Tour clubs but that's after about a thousand hours of play time. Got 9th this week:

http://tgctours.com/Tournament/Leaderboard/2399

[Giggles]

It's not built around online multi player is it? I just want to play rounds on my tod.

Does it have any real stuff or have EA all the player/course licences?

[Shindig]

Nope. You can play against ghosts. It's nice to see another person's ball land next to you, mind.

[Dark Soldier]

It's not built around online multi player is it? I just want to play rounds on my tod.

Does it have any real stuff or have EA all the player/course licences?

As shindig said, you can add ghosts of other players if you want to, or play solo rounds. No official courses but it has an amazing course creator which some very, very good designers use, with a lot of real course recreations, Augusta, St Andrews, Pebble Beach, Sawgrass, Royal Birkdale etc, and a fucking ton of created courses. In the thousands.

EDIT: These are the real course recreations in The Golf Club 2 as of two months ago:

http://www.hb-studios.com/forum/index.php?topic=18986.0

That thing I posted is an entirely optional tournament which mirrors the real life golf schedules, with rankings.

[Giggles]

Cheers. Looks excellent, definitely going to buy as soon as the machine arrives.

[Shindig]

The courses are arguably the best thing. If you have a local course, someone's likely to have created it.

[phonics]

I got Mario x Rabbids yesterday. It's absolutely fantastic, a complete joy. The jokes fall a little flat at times but the gameplay is fucking incredible. If they put a little more XCOM or just something that isn't collecting coins in between the battles, it'd be the best one of these turn based tactical RPGs ever.

The movement idea is so good and the more you use it the more you realise you can do with it. Thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyable. Even the storyline intro movie put a smile on my face.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTWOafdcP_Y

[Giggles]

Just got one of these reserved. Don't know if they'll honour it as it's obviously a mistake but it'll be worth the spin later to see.


http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/6842729.htm

[phonics]

Don't buy an Xbox. If you're going to get a console, get a PS4.

[Giggles]

Don't buy an Xbox. If you're going to get a console, get a PS4.

Tell me where to get a PS4 for €40 and I will.

[phonics]

Ah didn't see that. No way they'll honor it.

[Giggles]

Ah didn't see that. No way they'll honor it.

Doubt it, but I have no plans this evening and I don't pay for fuel so it's worth the 120km spin to the only place I could get one reserved.

[Giggles]

They rang and cancelled the reservation, ah well. Was definitely a too good to be true.

[Boydy]

What was it meant to be? 399.99?

[Giggles]

What was it meant to be? 399.99?

No idea of the price they're even meant to be. I'd say it's something along those lines though.

I wonder if I'd got in early and used the self service machine with the reservation number would it have been caught.

[Yevrah]

Given the mistake was still on their website when I looked at this thread at 1, I'd have thought some people will have got away with it.

[Boydy]

It's still on there now.

[Yevrah]

Christ, that's sloppy.

I didn't even check again. What the fuck are they playing at?

[Mike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nER1JPnYNTA

[Dark Soldier]

Everybody's Golf :jayjay:

[Ian]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/09/01/songbringer-review/

Well this looks lovely.

Life is all about the wait for Divinity: Original Sin 2 at the moment though. A pity I'll not get to play it with a full foursome.

[Disco]

I'd forgotten about it, which has really been the only way to resist trying it out before it's finished.

[Ian]

From the previews I was all-in for the corpse-eating elves but now I've heard about the undeads I'm torn as to what I'll play as.

[Shindig]

Games Done Quick are doing a livestream marathon in aid of the Hurricane Harvey victims

www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive got a call of duty ww2 beta key for the ps quad if anyone wants it

[Disco]

From the previews I was all-in for the corpse-eating elves but now I've heard about the undeads I'm torn as to what I'll play as.

I'm a sucker for a skellington whenever it's available so I may find it hard to resist.

[Shindig]

Marathoned Tales From the Borderlands today. Really, really good. I might place it up there with Walking Dead Season 1. Nolan North and Troy Baker both had indistinguishable "No, no, no, no!" moments which annoyed me. Aside from that, it's a cool story about friendship and Loader Bot is amazing.

[Dark Soldier]

So on this week's TGC2 tournament I got -5, -10, -6, -14. How in the fuck do I go from a -6 to a -14 next round on the same course :D

[wullie]

Picked up Everybody's Golf yesterday and had a quick go through the tutorial bit, can't believe I forgot how bright and loud everything is, complete overload. This must be like when Amish people go to Vegas.

[Bernanke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJHTSZaTMEo&feature=youtu.be

Finally. :drool:

[Giggles]

In the Golf Club 2, how do you hit the ball hard? I can understand that you have to work up your profile to better skills/clubs/etc, but I'm getting perfect for backswing and downswing and my drives are landing within 100 yards which is making it basically unplayable. You can't judge distance at all with the other clubs as you've to just go 4 or 5 clubs longer than the distance shows and hope for the best.

[phonics]

Knack 2 coming out hard with the 69 (nice) metacritic.

The amount of money Sony has poured into that franchise is hilarious.

[wullie]

On Everybody's Golf I beat a schoolgirl in match play, so of course now I can wear her uniform as a prize. Japan

[Raoul Duke]

When you say "beat"...?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I bought it but I don't want to be put on a list :\

[Disco]

That ship has surely sailed.

[Dark Soldier]

Its a fucking incredible game. My character is so black the game can barely pick him up in cutscenes.

[wullie]

Where I struggled with Golf Club I seem to be pretty decent at this already, I don't know if it's holding my hand through the early stages or less likely, I've just got the innate skills that come with being a veteran of the golf game, all the way back to this work of art


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0W7RT-Yp9E

[Giggles]

What a game WCL was :drool:

I've binned TGC2 until I buy a game controller. A good few things I've read says that it's a lot more playable than with a mouse.

[Dark Soldier]

Yeah using a mouse is a crapshoot unless you drop your dpi to insanely low levels

[wullie]

https://i.imgur.com/MQJDl2R.png

I feel sorry for those suckers who just win a green jacket for winning golf

[Shindig]

If anyone asks, it's a kilt.