General gaming discussion

[phonics]

That bullet hell game looks like a load of shit. There's too many bullets at that point.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I got The Last of US on PS4 as I never completed it on the PS3 and I just had a huge seethe.

I had cleared out the subway station bit of all clickers and was just going round beating the shit out of runners, I was bitchslapping one when Tess decides to stroll over and shoot it. Cue the last clicker coming over and biting me in the neck.

Stupid bitch.

[Dark Soldier]

That bullet hell game looks like a load of shit. There's too many bullets at that point.

That's Ultra mode, aka the hardest difficult for masochists. Its not too bad on normal mode.

[Yevrah]

And have taken a machine gun to people within minutes of arriving. It makes no sense.


Yeah, I've talked about how odd this is. The guy in the FC3's arc isn't very realistic but at least once he pretends that he's a bit messed up about having to kill people.

In this game it's basically:
"Ajay!"
"I'm just here to scatter my mum's ashes."
"Yeah but could you kill a whole shitload of folk for us first?"
*sigh* "Alright then."

It's a videogame, the plots are almost always uniformly awful and never stand up to any sort of scrutiny.

[Ian]

Not all of them have the writers blathering on about how meaningful they are though.

[Yevrah]

Yep, Ubisoft are particularly bad at that. But then they don't seem to have much clue what to do with a game beyond making incredible environments.

[Ian]

The last two in particular end up feeling like less than the sum of their parts, as much as I enjoyed 3 and am enjoying 4 so far.

[Shindig]

Its a shame they didn't stick with Far Cry 2's direction. You could infer a lot from that African setting and you didn't need to justify what the character does because its all part of the job description. I wonder how 'by committee' Far Cry is put together these days. I don't think they're on Assassins Creed levels with that, at least.

[Demerit]

I'm very worried with Far Cry. I thought number one was excellent on PC, number two was a massive game with so much to do, the setting was excellent, the characters were great.

Far Cry 3 was a good game, but I never completed it as I think I got hooked on something else and I never tried Far Cry 4.

Primal is out early next year, and it's all becoming a bit Assassins Creed-lite.

Standard Ubisoft rushing out their games year after year, I just wish they'd take a little more time over them to develop something other than the worlds.

[Boydy]

Fucking hell, why can't I skip cut scenes in FC3?

[Ian]

Can't in FC4 either. The absolute hallmark of a development team who are too determined to ram their story down your throat.

[Boydy]

They can't actually think their story is any good, can they?

[Ian]

We'll talk about it in more depth once you've done but the spoiler-free short answer is: Fuck yes, they really, honestly do.

And you know what? I'd have marked it down as good if they hadn't bottled a certain decision. Which again, I'll have to wait until you've finished.

[Shindig]

Guys, I like Bloodborne at last.

[Boydy]

Far Cry 3 - There don't seem to be any story missions appearing on the map any more and it kept telling me to go talk to Hurk. So I did and did a few missions for him. Now he's moved to the second island and it won't allow me to travel there yet but there are still no story missions showing on the first island. Do I need to story quests or something? I also can't fast travel at the minute for some reason.

[CJay]

Are you currently on a mission or something? I never had any of the DLC, so can't help you too much. Googled it?

[Boydy]

I don't think so. There are no indicators on the map for objectives and I'm able to start quests and stuff.

Although that mission where you have to go chase the helicopter after you've had all your weapons taken and then you have to go get your equipment back afterwards. I died on the getting the equipment back part and then quit the game thinking it'd be saved at the last checkpoint and whenever I got back to it, it'd pick up from there. But it didn't so maybe it thinks I'm still on that mission or something? I have no idea.

Was also just doing that mission where you have to collect the document fragments in that lab. I got shocked as I turned the power on to get the lift working to go down to the next level and the shock just seemed to keep repeating itself over and over even when I wasn't touching stuff that was electrified so my health was just constantly draining. I'm guessing that's not meant to happen. The whole thing seems a bit buggy.

[Ian]

As if eagles weren't already megadicks in FC4, I've now seen them a few times carrying off pigs.

Twats.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I missed the one you pointed out to me, but the eagle then getting killed and dropping to the ground with a pig was a glorious thing.

[Ian]

I like to kill them anyway but especially when they're hunting down poor ickle piggies.

[Shindig]

I'm closing in on the Trials Trophy in Trials Evolution. 26 medals left and I'm having a much better time of it on this PC with a Dual Shock 4. Thanks, DS4tool.

[Nick]

Do we have any decent car/racing games on the PS4 yet?

Driveclub, Need for Speed: Rivals, Project Cars? Are they any good?

[CJay]

Did I just do the exact same mission in FC4 as I did in FC3? Burning drug fields. Way to be original, Ubisoft.

[CJay]

Also, is there a way to turn off the GPS route that comes up on your minimap when you choose a waypoint? Driving to a location without knowing which route to take was one of the best parts of FC3. Now I'm bottle-fed exactly how to get there. :moop:

[Shindig]

Do we have any decent car/racing games on the PS4 yet?

Driveclub, Need for Speed: Rivals, Project Cars? Are they any good?

Project Cars is the only good one. Gran Turismo Sport (whatever that is) is due out ... possibly 2016? Although I enjoy Milestone's MotoGP stuff.

[Boydy]

So there's still not story missions showing for me on Far Cry 3 on the first map. I've done all the story quests there in case those needed to be completed first. It's still telling me to go talk to Hurk and his icon's on the second island that it won't let me travel to. Great. Broken game, seemingly. :moop:

[phonics]

Have you found the wingsuit?

[Boydy]

Nope.

[CJay]

Hmm doesn't seem to be anything about it online. :/ Which mission were / are you on exactly, do you know?

[phonics]

IIRC it's the wingsuit that unlocks the second island, give 'How to find wingsuit' or something a google and go from there.

[Boydy]

Hmm doesn't seem to be anything about it online. :/ Which mission were / are you on exactly, do you know?

http://uk.ign.com/wikis/far-cry-3/Warrior_Rescue_Service

That's the one I mentioned before that I died on the last part of (retrieving my equipment) and quit the game there to go do something else at the time assuming it'd bring me back in at the last checkpoint or whatever but it hasn't and now I don't seem to be able to pick that mission up again or move onto a new one. I can do story quests (done them all now) but I can't fast travel. I don't get it.

[CJay]

http://uk.ign.com/wikis/far-cry-3/Warrior_Rescue_Service

That's the one I mentioned before that I died on the last part of (retrieving my equipment) and quit the game there to go do something else at the time assuming it'd bring me back in at the last checkpoint or whatever but it hasn't and now I don't seem to be able to pick that mission up again or move onto a new one. I can do story quests (done them all now) but I can't fast travel. I don't get it.

Really odd. Have you tried going back to the spot where the pirates with your equipment were to see if you can somehow force the mission to completion? And do you have all your 'stuff' back? Or go to Citra's temple and see if you can force the next quest to begin somehow. The second island is pretty cool, so it'd be a shame if the game is too broken to continue.

[phonics]

If not, a few people seem to be playing it, maybe a kindly user has a save?

edit: Boyd, here's a thread with a save game at every mission.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3051990

[Boydy]

Really odd. Have you tried going back to the spot where the pirates with your equipment were to see if you can somehow force the mission to completion? And do you have all your 'stuff' back? Or go to Citra's temple and see if you can force the next quest to begin somehow. The second island is pretty cool, so it'd be a shame if the game is too broken to continue.

I'm not sure where the spot where the pirates had my stuff is.

Might just use Phonic's link though. Cheers, phonics.

[Shindig]

Bloodborne did me a favour last night when the Blood Starved Beast got caught in his transform animation. Hammered it to death.

[Andrew]

Hated Bloodborne to start off with, but kept at it and finally completed it and about half way through NG+ now.

Would love to see how many times I've died in this game though got to be well over treble figures.

The Chalice Dungeons can do one though....

[Andrew]

Completed God Of War, really impressed with that as I seem to have totally overlooked it on the PS3.

Rayman Legends has been devoured and some of the music levels in that game are a total joy to play.

Currently on level 12 of Devil May Cry Remastered another gem I seemed to have been oblivious to on the ps3.

So all in all my time on the PS4 has been spent playing remastered PS3 games.😎

[Shindig]

Welcome to my 2014. My main problem now is the crunch for Game of the Year stuff. Once Bloodborne is done its on to The Witcher. Fallout I can skip or grab on PC. One of our lot likes Life is Strange and that may be a last minute thing to check out.

[CJay]

Oh wow, I just destroyed the first propaganda centre. That was absolute carnage. There was a huge pile of burnt out jeeps, quads and bodies outside the building by the time I was finished. Best mission yet.

[Ian]

I somehow managed to make really hard work of that first propaganda place, I think it ended up there was some pile of posters which somehow ended up in tact beneath a pile of other burning shit which I kept missing or something similarly stupid.

[CJay]

Yeah I died the first time, felt like there was a crazy amount of guys coming at me that time, though.

Question: how do I progress the main story? I just did a mission for Sabal (burning the opium fields), but now there's no markers on the maps for him / Amita / Golden Path, and there's nothing to indicate what to do next. Am I meant to return to Banapur or something?

[Ian]

There ought to be a permanent icon about the edge of your map of some sort, whether it's the yellow crossed swords or a letter for a mission. Might be that you have to do the one with the two stoner twats, which is at a greenish 'Y', Longinus (don't think those are ever mandatory but I might be wrong) or... I'm sure there's another. If it's not the golden path logo, though, it'll be a colourful letter of some variety.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Do some outposts and shit.

[CJay]

Ok cheers, I think there's a Y somewhere on my map so I guess I'll check that out. I don't think I've encountered any stoner twats yet. There's far too much stuff on the map I think, all the location markers are rather pointless and just make it harder to find what you want. I reckon the FC3 interface was much better all round. I also don't like the way they just have one screen for weapons - I want my weapons divided into categories. :moop:

[Ian]

Do some outposts and shit.

I'd that it's a wise move to knock these off at a faster rate of knots than the main story early doors.

I'd also advise you get a gyrocopter before heading to that Y because there's a not especially taxing but slightly dull rock climb to get there.

[CJay]

I'd that it's a wise move to knock these off at a faster rate of knots than the main story early doors.

Why is that, to progress the story? I like trying to accomplish things in heavily-infested enemy territory. Do enemies still show up in areas even once you've cleared outposts? If they do then I guess I don't have to worry about that. In 3 once you cleared an outpost you were safe to do whatever the hell you wanted in that area, which was a bit boring for me.

[Ian]

I like having hubs and unlocking the sidequests and stuff. The enemy still knock about a bit more than they did in Far Cry 3 and you'll get the Pagan's Wrath convoys and the odd attack on an outpost (though I don't think they can reclaim them if you ignore it, which is a shame) to keep it not quite such a yawn as it was in 3 once you'd cleared an area.

[CJay]

Good points, I guess it's probably worth doing overall.

[Ian]

You could always clear out a couple and spend some time in that area picking up posters and masks and shit and see if you're happy with the level of wrong'uns knocking about?

[Boydy]

If not, a few people seem to be playing it, maybe a kindly user has a save?

edit: Boyd, here's a thread with a save game at every mission.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3051990

I can't get these downloads to work.

[CJay]

I can't get these downloads to work.

I believe the pirates who stole your stuff are located at the little cluster of white buildings just to the left of the southernmost radio tower, if you want to try your luck there.

[Ian]

If I was Ajay in FC4 I'd be knifing these Yogi and Reggie cunts the next time I saw them. They're so very irritating.

I'm also not sure how much I can be bothered doing the rest of the Shangri-La stuff, which is a shame given how visually striking it is. And how cool it is setting a stealth-tiger-ghost on dudes.

EDIT: Also I've just unlocked the auto-crossbow thing as well as some weapon that's a sort-of sniper rifle but a) is loud and b) doesn't zoom far. Seems more like a range option (and it hits like a fucking train) you'd take if you were intentionally going on loud.

Not tried the auto-cross yet but I suspect I'll miss the versatility offered by the different arrows. I'm more likely to switch it in for the STG-90 (I think that's the one I mean) rather than the bow.

[phonics]

Invisible Inc is free on Steam this weekend.

Anyone who enjoyed XCOM should give it a try.

[ItalAussie]

New XCOM or old?

[ItalAussie]

From my recent purchasing binge:

Ronin: Good. Not as good as gunpoint, but still plenty enjoyable. Some of the scenarios seem impossible to perform perfectly, and you can't replay missions without restarting. Sometimes it feels a bit arbitrarily nasty, but once you get the mechanics, it's really enjoyable. There's a particular pleasure to be gained from replaying levels repeatedly in order to come up with the most "elegant" solution. The most important thing you really need to internalize is that stealth is largely not the way to play, and you'll have more success if you just try and take everyone out as efficiently as possible.

Botanicula: I'm about three-quarters of the way through, and I love it. The puzzles aren't that complicated, but the art is beautiful, and the easter eggs are bountiful. The whole story is conveyed largely without words, and it's pretty easy to follow. I'm looking forward to the big finish.

Undertale: I started it, then put it down in favour of the other two. The perfectionist in me keeps wanting to try and win every fight without fighting, but this doesn't seem like a sensible way to go through. I'll get back to it after Botanicula.

[phonics]

New XCOM, it's a Cyberpunk stealth game but with the two step control system. It looks beautiful too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klmDJ46XlCM

[Ian]

Invisible Inc. is good fun, though it didn't hook me.

[Disco]

Glad you're liking Botanicula Ital, it's just delightful throughout. Good news is I'm sure I read somewwere that Amanita are currently making a new Samarost game. :drool:

[CJay]

If I was Ajay in FC4 I'd be knifing these Yogi and Reggie cunts the next time I saw them. They're so very irritating.

I'm also not sure how much I can be bothered doing the rest of the Shangri-La stuff, which is a shame given how visually striking it is. And how cool it is setting a stealth-tiger-ghost on dudes.

EDIT: Also I've just unlocked the auto-crossbow thing as well as some weapon that's a sort-of sniper rifle but a) is loud and b) doesn't zoom far. Seems more like a range option (and it hits like a fucking train) you'd take if you were intentionally going on loud.

Not tried the auto-cross yet but I suspect I'll miss the versatility offered by the different arrows. I'm more likely to switch it in for the STG-90 (I think that's the one I mean) rather than the bow.

Without spoiling, at what point do the new weapons unlock? Looking forward to using the crossbow. The best thing about rolling with the recurve bow is that it's silent, but it's also loud if you load up the explosive arrows. So much variety. :drool:

[Disco]

I very much enjoyed the last outpost:

Hide in hills and snipe out alarm.
Run to other side of outpost as everyone searches the area you just left.
Carpet bomb said area with mortar.
:cool:

[Disco]

Also, there doesn't seem to be any bullet drop with the sniper rifles, is that right? Feels like that's why I've been missing more than I would like.

[Ian]

There is only "bullet" drop with the bow, nothing else.

Also while the fortresses absolutely do not require co-op given they've all got multiple points of entry you could probably have some chaotic fun if you made a point of leaving the alarms intact.

CJay : different weapons unlock on different missions.

[CJay]

Oh right. I assumed it was like 3, where getting to the second island unlocked a whole pile of new weapons.

[Ian]

This may happen when you get to the north of the map, I don't know. I like the Shredder. Partly because it's ace and partly because I like the Turtles.

[Nick]

I completed the main story in GTA V just now. Definitely didn't want it to end. I'm still only at about 78% complete, so there are a few side missions etc. still to complete. The story was good, seemed to slow down about halfway through, but progressed quickly enough towards the end.

My main frustration came after failing a mission. I'm sure they were 'dumbed down' after a couple of failed attempts. Less people to kill etc.

I can't imagine I'll play through again, but it's GTA so it'll be good to come back to and just mow people off the pavement once in a while.

[Disco]

The ability to replay missions is great as well, no need to restart in order to do the best bits again.

[Shindig]

One of the things I like about MGS is how they scale missions depending on how you've been doing. Still cracking on with Walking Dead: Season 2. I did not like the way Episode 3 went.

[Samadini]

Going to this today - http://www.londongamingmarket.com/

I'll be in financial ruin by the end of the day.

[phonics]

Buy a Time Crisis 2 Cabinet and I'll swing by for some games.

[Ian]

Don't fucking say that to him, that's exactly the sort of thing Sama would do.

[Samadini]

It really is.

I'm turning the second bedroom into a gaming room when I move, so this really is awful timing. Going to spend a fortune.

[Samadini]

Didn't go too mad. Managed to not buy any games or consoles, since I play them all for free on my PC.

Did come home with some pixel art, that seemed pretty cheap at £8 and a couple of Golden Axe Tshirts :cool:

http://www.caveofpixels.com/uploads/2/2/3/0/22304110/6779796.jpg?264

http://www.caveofpixels.com/uploads/2/2/3/0/22304110/_4562860_orig.jpg

http://cdn.somethinggeeky.com/product-images/large/segagoldenaxemenstshirt_528b48a303d9c.png

http://i.recordshopx.com/cover/big/4/43/432305.jpg?ts

[Ian]

Golden Axe. :drool:

[Patje]

Aye, Golden Axe :drool:

[Pepe]

Dat gray shirt. :D

[Raoul Duke]

Those t-shirts are phenomenal.

[Disco]

Not sure how much I'm going to break the story in Far Cry by doing everything other than story missions, uncovered most of the southern part of the map yesterday and will continue later. I wonder if I can do strongholds outside of missions? I'm also out of upgrades to buy and will soon have too much money for my wallet because apparently I have to carry all my possessions with me at all times.

[Shindig]

Yeah, strongholds are side content so you can do them at your leisure.

[Ian]

I learned yesterday that taking a stronghold means they'll stop attacking outposts you've captured in that area.

The neatest thing about them is that they usually have at least one secret-y way to enter.

[CJay]

I learned yesterday that taking a stronghold means they'll stop attacking outposts you've captured in that area.

The neatest thing about them is that they usually have at least one secret-y way to enter.

Aha, that's interesting. Cheers for the tip. I've only had one encounter with a fortress so far, where I drove too close to it and they started firing mortars all over the place. I actually jumped a little when the first one went off very near my jeep.

I unlocked the Bull yesterday. :drool: Rolling with the Stinger, Bull, PKM and Recurve Bow at the minute. Plenty of variety in those four weapons, although I'm looking to unlock a better LMG soon. One that doesn't take 5 minutes to reload.

Oh yeah, missions that involve a lot of grappling suck. I hate that aspect of the game. I don't find it fun at all.

[Disco]

I'm using the unique Scorpion and AK(?) plus a bolt action, silenced sniper and normally an RPG although I may well swap that for a decent LMG once I get one. Conversely I love the rock climbing, I'm basically just tooling around the map collecting things at the moment and scaling cliffs and rootling through caves is a nice distraction. The number of snakes and honey badgers laying in wait at the top of big climbs can bugger off though.

[CJay]

I just spent all my money, so I'll probably have to do that too. I guess the grappling is handy for general exploring, I just don't like missions like the Kyra Statue one where I had to use it exclusively. And is it me or are there far fewer chests on the map as compared to FC3?

[Disco]

I think there's more money about in general, in 3 there was a point where I became slightly worried that I would run out of money for ammo etc. In this I'm running out of things to spend it on and am actively avoiding loot chests

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The 87 (signature shotgun), sidearm grenade launcher, M-700 (silenced sniper) and the recurve for me.

[Disco]

Giving the ridiculous drum fed machine pistol a go, although I kind of resent taking a weapon simply for dealing with shitty animals but the endless stream of dogs, wolves, and leopards makes it a necessity. Rather ironically I've now found two locations that are marked as poachers camps, which is all kinds of lol when you consider the eagle death toll alone would put the Khmer Rouge to shame.

[Ian]

The Shredder is my best friend. Silent, not too shabby range-wise and fucks over anything stupid enough to get close to me pretty sharpish so it's good as my default carrying weapon. I have the sidearm grenade launcher for versatility and giving me more options elsewhere.

After that I'm mixing things up a bit. The crossbow is more fun than I expected. It lacks the range or variety of the recurve (which I swap it with depending on mood) but it gives a nice satisfying thunk and gives you more margin for error.

Lastly I usually have the better of the signature sniper rifles but it gets switched if I take a fancy for trying something else.

You playing on console, CJay?

[Disco]

I am liking how the quick sell button appears to know what skins you'll need to keep before you do. On that note, anyone know where Snow Leopards live? I find hundreds of the other kind but only ever one of the snowy variety.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Giving the ridiculous drum fed machine pistol a go, although I kind of resent taking a weapon simply for dealing with shitty animals but the endless stream of dogs, wolves, and leopards makes it a necessity. Rather ironically I've now found two locations that are marked as poachers camps, which is all kinds of lol when you consider the eagle death toll alone would put the Khmer Rouge to shame.
I like the signature shotgun for that. Honey badgers get smashed in one shot because of it's power.

I am liking how the quick sell button appears to know what skins you'll need to keep before you do. On that note, anyone know where Snow Leopards live? I find hundreds of the other kind but only ever one of the snowy variety.
You either get all that you need during a mission with Longines (who sends you to the Himalayas) or they can be found in the North.

[CJay]

You playing on console, CJay?

Unfortunately yes. I'd love some co-op. :(

I unlocked the crossbow today - it's awesome. I also found out today that throwing knives one-shot enemies. That stealth mission for capturing de Pleur was really good I thought, I was hiding in the bushes with his body for ages while enemies were running past me.

[CJay]

Also, here's a tip for hunting. Often I go to a location where an animal is, but I can't find them, or can't find enough of them. If you throw bait, however, they'll come running straightaway. I guess it only works for whatever animals are attracted by bait, though? I'm almost fully stocked on all the upgrades now, although I still have to get four Demon Fish skins, which will probably be a bit tricky.

[Disco]

Cool, that's the way I'm heading. May attempt a stronghold tomorrow as I found one on a river that has a really obvious looking way in through the roof. Is it just a matter of murdering everyone inside like a larger version of the outposts?

Shotguns are ok but I don't find they're worth taking up a proper slot.

[Disco]

Also, here's a tip for hunting. Often I go to a location where an animal is, but I can't find them, or can't find enough of them. If you throw bait, however, they'll come running straightaway. I guess it only works for whatever animals are attracted by bait, though? I'm almost fully stocked on all the upgrades now, although I still have to get four Demon Fish skins, which will probably be a bit tricky.

They're fine, just stand on the bank and murder them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cool, that's the way I'm heading. May attempt a stronghold tomorrow as I found one on a river that has a really obvious looking way in through the roof. Is it just a matter of murdering everyone inside like a larger version of the outposts?

Shotguns are ok but I don't find they're worth taking up a proper slot.
The signature one can go in the sidearm slot.

[CJay]

The signature one can go in the sidearm slot.

Is that true for the Bull, as well? The sidearm slot in this was annoying me a little until I unlocked the crossbow. In 3 I could just run around with whatever weapons I wanted.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is that true for the Bull, as well? The sidearm slot in this was annoying me a little until I unlocked the crossbow. In 3 I could just run around with whatever weapons I wanted.

Nope.

http://farcry.wikia.com/wiki/87_%28Signature_Weapon%29

The 87 is a beast though, rhinos in only 3-4 shots :drool:

[CJay]

Nope.

http://farcry.wikia.com/wiki/87_%28Signature_Weapon%29

The 87 is a beast though, rhinos in only 3-4 shots :drool:

Interesting, I guess I'll switch out for that when I unlock it. Shotguns are awesome. I always have mine out when running through the wild as it's the best response to sudden encounters with dangerous animals.

[Disco]

The signature one can go in the sidearm slot.

Shiiiiiiit, that's great. I also found the burst fire pistol (which takes a silencer) to be pretty good but the ammo pool is a bit too low to make it very practical.

Almost half the outposts done now. Just had a great one with two alarms, sniped one from one side of the camp and while they were carpeting my position with mortars and running about I legged it all the way round and snuck in the back to disable the other one. Cue a hasty retreat and picking dudes off one by one from afar.

[Ian]

The quick sell button knowing which skins you need is ace because I'm fairly sure they never thought of that in FC3. Such a timesaver.

[CJay]

That I never noticed the game was doing that for me tells you how good a feature it is. :D

[Disco]

I'd been selling spare ones I didn't realise I needed, I assumed the 'sell random shite' button wouldn't touch crafting things at all.

[Ian]

I think FC4 has a few of those small improvements because I'm sure FC3, much as I loved it, was full of little niggles that I don't feel so much now.

Anyway, RPS does top 25 stealth games.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/11/17/best-stealth-games/2/

Makes me want to get Commandos 2 on the go again. :drool: Leaving a an entire base full of black-eyed, trussed up Nazis was mega satisfying. I should play Desperados.

[Shindig]

Bloodborne picked up the pace with two more bosses down. Witches get stitches and Vicars get... I dunno, stabbed. I'm still none the wiser about the story. Everyone's putting way too much faith in the Healing Church which makes me think they're bent or straight up evil. I dunno what the Old Ones are but if you roll around Cathedral Ward with 40 insight, there's a big 'something' clutching on to the chapel. I don't care for Lovecraft but, man, that's an image. On to Bergenwyrth. Wherever that is. I'll ask NPCs for directions or something.

For all the mysteries these games trade in, at least Dark Souls shoved you in the right direction and fed you enough backstory to give context to what you were doing. So far its "You're a Hunter. Hunt." and the townsfolk are either off their tits on blood (Damn you, Healing Church!) or shit-talking hunters for being hunters. And I wish there was more to the NPCs. They lack a bit of history.

[Disco]

I think FC4 has a few of those small improvements because I'm sure FC3, much as I loved it, was full of little niggles that I don't feel so much now.

Anyway, RPS does top 25 stealth games.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/11/17/best-stealth-games/2/

Makes me want to get Commandos 2 on the go again. :drool: Leaving a an entire base full of black-eyed, trussed up Nazis was mega satisfying. I should play Desperados.

Chaos Theory will always be my favourite, never has piling up unconscious guards been so much grabby fun.

[DC]

Thief II is, rightfully, number 1 and should be forever more. Can't wait for the Dishonored sequel.

[wullie]

Saboteur at 17! Even though sometimes the stealth was just the AI not detecting you running right in front of them.

[Shindig]

I could struggle to think of 10 quality stealth games.

[Boydy]

I believe the pirates who stole your stuff are located at the little cluster of white buildings just to the left of the southernmost radio tower, if you want to try your luck there.

Finally bothered to try this again. That's the right place but they're not there and neither is my stuff so nothing's happening. I guess that's the end of Far Cry 3 for me. So annoying as I was really enjoying it.

[CJay]

That's really annoying. Get on 4 instead. :nodd: There's enough of us to warrant a thread for it probably.

Oh is there a 'restart mission' option on the main menu? I'm guessing that isn't working for you, though..

[Boydy]

I don't think so. There isn't one in the pause menu where it normally was but I didn't check the main menu very closely.

Isn't 4 still expensive?

[Shindig]

£15 in CeX.

[Disco]

I got mine for less than £15 from G2A but I wouldn't want to recommend using them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I seem to have a knack of long range grenade launching now.

Cleared out almost a whole outpost using the M-79 whilst walking towards the outpost from about 300 yards.

[Ian]

Far Cry 4 needs a more generous distribution of Tuk Tuks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Getting into a fight with 4 wolves and a bear trying to help me before blasting it with my shotgun was good fun.

[CJay]

LET ME SKIP THESE STUPID CUT SCENES WITH YOGI AND REGGIEE AHHHHHHHH

:moop:

[Disco]

I'm unable to skip the splash screens / idents every time I start the game. That's beginning to get old.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/11/27/skip-far-cry-4s-unskippable-launch-animations/

Nothing to skip the in game cut screens though :(

[CJay]

It's a load of bollocks, is what it is. I actually mute my game now when Yogi and Reggie take the stage.

[Ian]

As I said previously, I'm not sure why Ajay hasn't knifed them by now.

[Disco]

Reaping the benefits of having only done one mission ever. :cool:

Edit:
I think this week Mahow has improved my gaming experience by at least 17%.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

As I said previously, I'm not sure why Ajay hasn't knifed them by now.

Indeed.

Also, as good as the tuktuks are, they're no match for 2 rhinos :(

Steaming down the road and trying to run them both down didn't end too well. They took the initial hit, stepped back and then rammed my tuktuk so hard it started flipping over.

[Disco]

Have they decided whether it's Ay-jay or Ah-jay yet?

[CJay]

Has anyone tried taking on a fortress before weakening it? I took out de Pleur's last night after weakening it and it didn't seem that difficult. Hunkered into a building with a rocket launcher to deal with the helicopters and everything else was fairly straightforward, just seemed like a glorified outpost. I've already weakened Noore's, but I'm definitely gonna try the next one while it's strong.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I just did the mission 'The City of Pain' and it was painful for me.

I'm so fucking shit at stealthing that I had to restart it about 10 fucking times.

[Ian]

In the City of Pain one when I tried to carry the fucker out I ended up grenade launching far away from me to send enemies scurrying there so I could get through without constantly putting him down. Ballache.


I think this week Mahow has improved my gaming experience by at least 17%.

Almost any Steam game you can do this with, in my experience. Many others as well though not always as easily. I've actually got a disc/uPlay copy and even then loading it into your Steam library you can just follow the Steam instructions and it'll sort 'em out.


Have they decided whether it's Ay-jay or Ah-jay yet?

Have they fuck. :moop:


Has anyone tried taking on a fortress before weakening it? I took out de Pleur's last night after weakening it and it didn't seem that difficult. Hunkered into a building with a rocket launcher to deal with the helicopters and everything else was fairly straightforward, just seemed like a glorified outpost. I've already weakened Noore's, but I'm definitely gonna try the next one while it's strong.

How does one weaken it? Is it story missions or something? I don't if the ones I've done have been weakened or not.

[Disco]

The tooltip on the map says to do more story missions to weaken them.

If I have it installed through Uplay can I link it to Steam then? That would be easier.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In the City of Pain one when I tried to carry the fucker out I ended up grenade launching far away from me to send enemies scurrying there so I could get through without constantly putting him down. Ballache.


My problem was getting round to the slaves, I was always spotted. Oh and I wasn't listening to how the mission was meant to be done at the start so I went all in with my grenade launcher.

First slave I freed seemed to make every enemy know exactly where I was which was annoying.

When I was leaving with the fucker I didn't put him down once. I died the first time as I accidentally grenade launched myself but the second I just lobbed loads of bait round and whilst walking I kept throwing grenades as well as using my launcher. I think I cleared almost the whole camp.

[CJay]

Ian - they get weakened when you deal with the fortress' leader, so once you did City of Pain de Pleur's fortress was weakened.

I died twice in the City of Pain when trying to free the slaves, but thankfully both times I was discovered just as I was about to free one, so it gave me the checkpoint both times. You need to remember to use those hunting syringes that show where every enemy is - they're so useful. It's a pity the mechanism for using them on the XB1 is so janky.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ian - they get weakened when you deal with the fortress' leader, so once you did City of Pain de Pleur's fortress was weakened.

I died twice in the City of Pain when trying to free the slaves, but thankfully both times I was discovered just as I was about to free one, so it gave me the checkpoint both times. You need to remember to use those hunting syringes that show where every enemy is - they're so useful. It's a pity the mechanism for using them on the XB1 is so janky.
That I did but I'm just so fucking shit at stealthing. The few guys I did kill, were always found even if I put them in the bushes. I decided on my last run that I'd go for the slave that was furthest away and then I came back for the other, seemed to work a lot better for me.

Oh and about Yogi and Reggie:

Three fucking times I've been drugged by them thus far, why the fuck has Ajay not put a bullet into their heads?

[Ian]

The tooltip on the map says to do more story missions to weaken them.

If I have it installed through Uplay can I link it to Steam then? That would be easier.

Yep. Go to your library, Add Game at the bottom, "non steam game" at the bottom, right click on the game once it's there and follow the instructions in that same RPS link and treat it as if it were a Steam game.

[Disco]

TTHard dropping the knowledge bombs tonight.

In related news I will be properly free from all other distractions from 6pm tomorrow if you fancy a bash around not-Tibet.

[Ian]

I am out consuming beer, I would be game for some over the weekend?

And I daresay Mahow will be about at some point tomorrow evening.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Unlocked the North \0/.

[Ian]

I think I've about three missions to go. I haven't played a single thing tonight though.

[Shindig]

Bloodborne's new patch adds some stuff. Although the size of it indicates the DLC will be an unlock rather than downloading new content. So far I've seen a new hunter in the worst possible spot, an NPC that offers a covenant but strangely no further summonable NPCs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH7lF7EGwk4

Their snake head summon is now an item you can use. Also, it took three days to beat these guys.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://farcry.wikia.com/wiki/GL-A87

The greatest fucking weapon ever.

[Disco]

Southern map cleared of nearly all the collectable stuff, now just the little side missions to do. Is there any way to see what replayable races etc you've already completed?

[Ian]

I've not been bothering with the races after the first one. I'm into the northern half of the map, but only just. I think I'm going to get all the radio towers and outposts and fortresses done first so I can unlock any more weapons which rely on that sort of thing.

[Disco]

I was a bit annoyed to find the top half was gated as I'm really liking just uncovering the map and hoovering up icons but t did prompt me to start doing assassinations and hostage rescues etc.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was a bit annoyed to find the top half was gated as I'm really liking just uncovering the map and hoovering up icons but t did prompt me to start doing assassinations and hostage rescues etc.

I didn't realise it was gated originally.

I set a waypoint for an outpost in the north, hit autodrive and left it.

I was taken to the bridge and was destroyed in about 10 seconds.

[Ian]

Are you clearing every icon off the map that you can, then? Masks of Yaulung, for example, I've sort of lost interest in unless I happen to stumble across one. I like the little notes and stuff but I fear there's nothing going to come of it and they're not that interesting to hunt down. Lost letters and Ghale's journals I'll probably seek out and I'll clear up any side missions I'm actually interested in.

[Disco]

I'm getting all the blue things (masks, letters, journals, spinnaroonie wheels) and going to all the different locations, I don't have any expectation of anything happening I'm just a gaming kleptomaniac. I have turned off the loot chests though as they're pointless at this stage.

[Disco]

I didn't realise it was gated originally.

I set a waypoint for an outpost in the north, hit autodrive and left it.

I was taken to the bridge and was destroyed in about 10 seconds.

I considered trying it with a gyrocopter but I'm assuming the game will just not let me or insta-kill me past a certain point.

[Ian]

I turned the loot chests off immediately, I think. They make a proper state of the map.

[Shindig]

I think I got to the point very quickly with that game where I just mainlined the story and packed that game away. Too much faff.

[Disco]

I'm the opposite, I couldn't give a shit about the story but I am very much enjoying all the faff, it's good faff with enough extra emergent faff going on to keep it interesting. It won't be long before I have to do some story stuff to open up the other part of the map in order to access additional faff.


Faff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I enjoy it too but I've always been a 'doss about and do side shit' in open world games kind of person.

I like exploring too much.

[Ian]

It varies from game to game with me. In thi I'm not going to be hunting down every icon but I will go for every quesion mark.

I'll go every-nook-and-cranny mode when there's stuff to read and have a nose at. I look forward to hacking into people's computers and reading their emails once the new Deus Ex comes out.

Oh and all the combat and stuff...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I fucking hate bell towers which have running jumps in them.

Fucking got my wingsuit out and went straight into the wall :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Taking on Pagan Min's fortress :drool:

Took me and Ian about 5 tries.

Don't even bother if you don't take out the alarms, they just keep sending helicopters as soon as one is destroyed.

[Shindig]

I think its just me getting older. I went into MGSV thinking I'd do the full shilling but I've finished the story and am glad of the time away from that game. Same goes for Dark Souls. Went into that thinking, "Might be my first platinum" and then ran out of steam. Up to Rom on Bloodbourne now. There really isn't much to Byrgenwyrth. The new patch adds two summons to that place within about a foot of each other.

[Ian]

Yes, that was a proper bastard. Wingsuiting onto the wall to get that last one felt good.

[Disco]

Taken from an ingame perspective the behaviour of my character is pretty worrying. He arrives as a tourist, is rescued from an attack by the Golden Path and having met their leaders immediately runs off into the countryside and takes on a well equipped army on his own. Blows up convoys, attacks manned outposts and all whilst wearing gear he made himself from the skins of animals he killed.

At some point I'm going to rock back up to the rebels looking for work draped in bloody skins having gunned down hundreds of soldiers. They're going to wonder who the fuck they've let into their country.

[Ian]

Ajay's introduction to the yarn makes so little sense I've taken to pretending he's actually rotting in Pagan Min's rape dungeon and this is all just a dream he's having. Far Cry 2 you were a dude in a shithole who happened to be handy in a scrap.

Far Cry 3 you were given magical tattoos to turn you into a killing machine and had the motivation of the wrong'uns killing his brother.

Ajay turns up, gets kidnapped and told some stuff and sees a few people killed and basically just decides he's going to be a superhero. And the Golden Path are no better. Rather than use Ajay and his name as some sort of motivational figure head they just assume he's an 80s action hero, give him some gear and shove him in the direct of the nearest army-manned deathtrap.

[CJay]

Taken from an ingame perspective the behaviour of my character is pretty worrying. He arrives as a tourist, is rescued from an attack by the Golden Path and having met their leaders immediately runs off into the countryside and takes on a well equipped army on his own. Blows up convoys, attacks manned outposts and all whilst wearing gear he made himself from the skins of animals he killed.

At some point I'm going to rock back up to the rebels looking for work draped in bloody skins having gunned down hundreds of soldiers. They're going to wonder who the fuck they've let into their country.

:D

Blasting through the storyline now - the airport mission is good fun. That Shangri-La mission, though... Anyway, I've nearly unlocked the North now. And I opened my skills menu yesterday to find 15 (fifteen) unspent skill points. :face:

[CJay]

And yeah, the start of this game is ridiculous. You escape from Pagan and all of a sudden you're running up behind folk and putting a knife through their chest, no fear.

[Disco]

Far Cry 2 made perfect sense, you were an established merc with a job to do. Being a badass is at least believable. The last two have inexplicably tried to cast complete noobs as wannabe terminators which is silly but not that out of place given the standard of writing in general.

Just imagine what we'd get if they gave it back to Clint Hocking. :drool:

[Shindig]

So I take it none of you guys did as you were told?

[Ian]

Eh?

[Shindig]

Wait here.

Pity you only have one save for that thing, really.

[Disco]

Ha, that's great.

[Ian]

That's tremendous. :D

I like it when games reward you for specifically not doing what it wants you to do/what you sort of do out of habit.

I'm sure I've mentioned it on here before but I remember being devastated when I learned that in the first Deus Ex you can save your brother by ignoring what he/the game tells you to do. :(

[Disco]

I've spent so long dicking around in cutscenes that it didn't occur to me to stay put.

[Ian]

Just powered through to clear out the fortresses (Min's is disappointingly routine once you've sussed the easiest way to get the trickiest alarm taken out) and radio towers because I wanted the big LMGs.

In terms of fun my favourite method so far has been picking off the alarms from afar and then head in and taking people out with a mixture of firepower and takedowns. There'd be some replay value in the fortresses (and outposts to a lesser extent) just trying different tactics and loadouts. Really I still want to try and do one proper stealth but the sightlines on some of them and the patrols routes would mean you're either relying on a bit of luck or just far more patience than I have for a game where stealth isn't really the name of the game.

Looking forward to trying out the buzzsaw on my next session though. :drool:

Out of interest has anybody found themselves siding with Amita during those choices?

I have not. It's tough but in a really predictable binary way. What Amita wants is actually best but she doesn't give a fuck how it happens. Sabal's Kyrat will probably end up like Pagan's in the long run if somebody doesn't then take power from him but at least he's not a wannabe heroin baron.

[CJay]

I've seen the Buzzsaw in use and it seems gamebreaking to me. But yeah, I change my load out very regularly. Helps to keep the game fresh.

I can never bring myself to do what Amita wants me to because she's such an annoying, callous character.

[Ian]

The buzzsaw isn't one I'll keep with me all the time. Partly for that reason, partly because "point at the bad people until they fall over" weapons in general are limited use. If I was to replay the fortresses and go noisy I'd use it, that sort of thing.

[Disco]

My sidearms change a little as I can't decide between the burst fire pistol and the 87 shotgun but other than that I have an assault rifle/sniper rifle/rpg. The AR will probably be replaced by a decent LMG, certainly if the signature ones are anywhere near as good as they were in 3 (which I suspect they will be as the weapons are pretty similar).

[Ian]

I might focus on the Longinus quests left as I quite fancy whatever that swish rocket launcher he has is.

My "core" setup is solid, I just change it to suit my whims.

Sidearm grenade launcher*, Shredder, recurve, Z93 sniper rifle.

* This is the one on shakiest ground as I could just start using explosive arrows in place of it, however it is rather handy having it there to shoot stuff while driving/gyrocoptering.

[Disco]

I've only seen the very early campaign missions but the woman seemed to be the realist with the bloke being the starstruck idealist (ie a cretin). We'll see though, going to drink copious amounts of tea and shoot people in the dick!

[Ian]

The choices I've had so far (I'll nest the spoilers so nobody should stumble on anything they haven't seen.)

Choice 1
Amita wants you to get intel instead of saving an outpost, though the intel may not actually be of any use. Sabal wants to save the outpost/village.

I went for the latter, knowing that because-videogames the intel would lead to something but treating it as a 'real' decision, unless there's a definite reason to sacrifice a bunch of people I'm not going to do it.

Sided with Sabal.

Choice 2
Sabal wants to burn the opium fields to the groun, Amita wants to just kill the military forces and continue to farm opium to fund the revolution, as well as schools, etc.

Dithered over this one. Already didn't like either of them by this point so it's just down to deciding which of them is being less of a dick. Sabal wants to do what is in this instance the right thing but it's probably an empty gesyire. Amita's ends justifying the means is all well and good but like fuck am I actively going to help them make heroin. Sorry, Amita, mate.

Choice 3
Basically the same decision. I already said no, Amita. I basically like you more than I like Sabal, just, so if you could stop being such a dick about everything that'd be nice.

Hopefully they surprise me a bit with the next choice options.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I sided with Amita the first time but Sabal for all other missions thus far.

[Shindig]

Rom's down. As suspected, that nice man at the Church was not a nice man but I get items either way. Thanks, bad man. I also have completely lost the thread on where this game is going. From a simple tale about bloodlust to... some weird extra terrestrial madness. Nightmare Frontier can do one. Respawning hunter fights. No ta. Same goes for Unseen Village proper. Scarpering through the map to find a bell maiden just reminds me off a bigger Catacombs debacle. Still, quite glad I've stayed the course with this one. Bring on Dark Souls III blind.

[Ian]

Some good lols in that mini-sesh of me and Mahow. It did somewhat descend into us trying to kill each other. He also kept getting spawned in stupid places, including mid-air while I was wingsuiting and directly in a fire when he first joined my game.

My favourite, though, was the gyrocopter. Mahow never drives but seemed awfully keen to run to the gyrocopter so I knew he was going to fly away without me. Lobbed a stick C4 on it and just waited until he was "getting away." :D

And as Cjay said above, the Buzzsaw really is a gamebreaker. Even if you hit them in the body it kills heavies in about a third of a second. Daft. I won't be taking it with me on story missions.

[Ian]

Also, other than a "here's all the nearby stuff" bit from a radio tower I don't think I've actually seen a crocodile in this despite knowing they exist and having spent plenty of time in the water.

[Nick]

I'm really wanting to like The Order:1886, but it's not giving me much opportunity. Before it was released it was one of the games I was most looking forward to, but I've obviously since read the reviews and lowered expectations a little. Even still, disappointed.

Out with the gun-fighting, combat is awful and basically just a game of reacting quickest to the on-screen prompts. The whole thing just feels like a giant cut-scene with you just expected to get from A to B shooting now and again. Which is a shame, because the storyline actually seems pretty good at the moment.

I don't like the way you can't jump, hide or take out a gun without the game telling you it's an appropriate time to do so. Picking up another weapon is a pain in the arse as well. There's nothing to tell you whether it has more ammo than your current one, so you end up picking it up just to put it down again. When you're in a gun-fight, that's too much time wasted.

I am trying to like it, but it's just not happening at the moment.

[Andrew]

Rom's down. As suspected, that nice man at the Church was not a nice man but I get items either way. Thanks, bad man. I also have completely lost the thread on where this game is going. From a simple tale about bloodlust to... some weird extra terrestrial madness. Nightmare Frontier can do one. Respawning hunter fights. No ta. Same goes for Unseen Village proper. Scarpering through the map to find a bell maiden just reminds me off a bigger Catacombs debacle. Still, quite glad I've stayed the course with this one. Bring on Dark Souls III blind.

When you get to the end mate, to save you replaying the entire game to get all three endings just upload your game save and just reload after the final boss fight.

The Chalice dungeons are just insanely difficult the deeper you get into them to the point I've given up on them which has left me stuck on 80% trophies

You getting the new DLC mate?

[Shindig]

Will be which is why I'm not bothered about endings. I'll replay it with the DLC.

[Disco]

Also, other than a "here's all the nearby stuff" bit from a radio tower I don't think I've actually seen a crocodile in this despite knowing they exist and having spent plenty of time in the water.

I murdered one from a MG nest but I haven't run into any while charging around the map, which is odd given its propensity for chucking half the population of Wipsnade at you every five minutes.. That could be because the previous game gave me a healthy fear of the water though, I don't go in it unless I really have to.

[CJay]

Kill or Be Killed was a very fun mission. Give me a cool environment and some baddies to kill and I'm happy.

Also, anyone tried the .700 Nitro rifle yet? It's beautiful - sounds amazing and it literally blasts enemies away. I'm currently rocking the Cannon, P416, .700 Nitro and the RPG. Not the stealthiest of load outs. :D

[Disco]

I think I have the .700 signature at the moment, I moved from a regular .700 with the same setup though so the change wasn't as pronounced. It is great for a bolt action though.

[Ian]

I murdered one from a MG nest but I haven't run into any while charging around the map, which is odd given its propensity for chucking half the population of Wipsnade at you every five minutes.. That could be because the previous game gave me a healthy fear of the water though, I don't go in it unless I really have to.

It certainly gets a lot more hectic on this front once you get into the North. I turned at one point to see Mahow getting set upon by about five wolves not long after we'd been harrassed by some other gang of furry yobs. And the bigger lads (bears, rhinos) seem to be in pairs more often.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I had a fight with a crocodile earlier in the game, only one I've seen thus far.

Animals tend to hate me though, I've even had pairs of rhinos charge me as well as elephants.

Letting out a tiger last night in hopes that he would attack Ian, only for it to start chasing me around the cage really took the piss.

[Ian]

That was hilarious. :D

I too was chased by a pair of galloping rhinoceroses. Praise Yaulung for the "sprint forever" skill. That said they only actually gave up chasing me after I grappled up a cliff.

[CJay]

There's nothing better than being chased by two rhinos and then jumping off a cliff and wingsuiting to safety.

[Shindig]

Now you'll never get that ammo pouch. Sprinted through Yaharg'ul tonight and beat the boss pretty easily. Nice of them to put the easiest boss in the game in the toughest (compulsory) area so far. Game's getting kind of trippy. Still no clue whats going on.

[Ian]

Yep, my weapons are too strong now.

Also I hope Far Cry Primal doesn't see Ubi get a hard-on for all this drug bullshit now. Comfortably the worst bit of Far Cry 3 and 4.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They probably will

In 10,000 BC there was evidence of people chewing on opium poppys and toasting cannabis seeds.

[CJay]

Aren't the enemies more difficult in the northern map? I'm going to blast through the last 2 missions in the south later tonight hopefully.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Aren't the enemies more difficult in the northern map? I'm going to blast through the last 2 missions in the south later tonight hopefully.

Not really, you get heavies with flamethrowers which are a bit tougher but that's it.

There's more of them strolling about though, but when you have a decent gun they don't do shit.

[Disco]

Meant to have a crack at getting Arena levels tonight but I fell asleep in my chair like an old man.

[CJay]

I don't get why they give the heavies flamethrowers. That makes them far less dangerous in my eyes than giving them a huge LMG or whatever.

[Ian]

Yeah the enemies are tougher (even the regular grunts have better body armour and take something sturier to kill them with anything other than a headshot) but yeah, as above, by that point your guns are good enough to balance things out in all but the most chaotic situations.

Still, got the best sniper rifle now and used it to successful snipe out a helicopter pilot. Also shot a guy in the chest.... and one-shotted the yak behind him with the same shot.

[Nick]

Finished The Order: 1886 tonight. Not very long is it?! Which is a shame because I actually quite enjoyed the story.

Gameplay-wise, it got better as it went on, because you got more involved, but the whole thing is still massively flawed. Stealth kills are awful, combat is awful (waiting for on-screen prompts, really!?) and there is quite literally no opportunity to explore anywhere. The best part of it was being involved in a gun-fight, but once you found a rifle you can pretty much just sail through. There were some decent other guns, but half of them took far too long to shoot and load, you were dead if you used them.

The lycans were pointless and not seen enough. The final 'battle' was one of the worst things I've ever had to do - a test of your reaction time in pressing buttons more than anything skill-based.

It did, however, look fucking amazing.

Thankfully I only paid £15 for it otherwise I'd have been raging.

[Disco]

Retsupurae are doing Ripper. :drool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYw7fSFHIss&index=13&list=WL

[CJay]

A mission combining a long wingsuit flight, hallucinations, crazy voices inside my head, grapple puzzles, and all my weapons being taken away (including never getting my knife back for the whole mission). What a load of balls that was. :moop:

Do game developers ever get tired of the 'bad guy let's player character escape for no reason' plot?

[Shindig]

Far Cry 2's one was amazing.

"Hey, time to sneak out this prison. Oh, the front door is unguarded. And there's a car." <drives off>

[phonics]

A mission combining a long wingsuit flight, hallucinations, crazy voices inside my head, grapple puzzles, and all my weapons being taken away (including never getting my knife back for the whole mission). What a load of balls that was. :moop:

Do game developers ever get tired of the 'bad guy let's player character escape for no reason' plot?

If Bond can get away with it for 70 years.

[elth]

Been playing quite a bit of the original Assassin's Creed over the past couple of weeks. It's a lot better than I expected, given how much people shat on it in reviews of the Ezio trilogy. Although I can see how it gets repetitive pretty quickly, I still find the core gameplay of climbing on everything very satisfying.

[Ian]

Far Cry 4 finished and I've done everything I want to do as well, I think.

Ending:
I just killed him. I hesitated because there were more than a few moments toward the end when I began to wonder what the point of it all had been as Kyrat is going to continue to be a cesspit regardless of who's in charge, really. I ended up with Amita in charge. Hmm. Didn't kill Sabal though, which will probably just make things worse when he returns and the fighting starts all over again.

On the whole I think Far Cry 3 was the better game but I did enjoy this very much.

[Shindig]

Been playing quite a bit of the original Assassin's Creed over the past couple of weeks. It's a lot better than I expected, given how much people shat on it in reviews of the Ezio trilogy. Although I can see how it gets repetitive pretty quickly, I still find the core gameplay of climbing on everything very satisfying.

With good reason. The PC re-release got extra mission types which made the game less barebones. At release it was literally, "Go here, eavesdrop then carry out the VERY SPECIFIC assassination we've outlined for you."

[Ian]

Bought Dying Light. :moop:

[Shindig]

Guys, there's some heavy rumours flying about a Demon Souls remaster on the PS4.

[elth]

Playing AC on 360, not PC, Shinners.

And I think it's probably as much as anything that people have got more used to open world games since it was released. The game presents you with that mission: "go here, climb a thing, listen to a guy, pick a pocket, perform the assassination, gg" but I've been messing around with different ways of doing them and it's a lot more varied than people give it credit for. Yeah, there's usually the stealth hidden blade "correct" way to do it, but the game doesn't punish you for turning any of the assassinations into a brawl either (except that sometimes the target runs away, but you can always catch him).

I think people were so used to linear narrative games pre-360/PS3 generation that it never occurred to most people that they had a lot more freedom than they were expecting, so they did the least they had to do to get to the next story bit and didn't bother messing around. And it's really not a game that benefits from being rushed.

Although no doubt all of the systems need a lot of polish.

[Shindig]

I dunno, that game was promising to be more when it was being demoed. I wanted a 1066 Hitman.

[Ian]

First lesson learned in Dying Light: Destructible environment. And nearly learned it the hard way. Battering a zombie on the roof of a balcony type thing, gave it one last kick when it fell to be sure it wasn't getting back up and smashed me and it through the wood down to the actual balcony.

[Shindig]

Man, Dark Souls II is rougher than I remember. Being hit through a fog door interrupts the animation completely and your stamina is so slow to recover. I also read up on the Bloodborne plot and have now decided its pretty great.

[Ian]

I've only played an hour or two but the majority of the characters in Dying Light already seem like idiots. They're supposedly mega-paranoid and yet haven't asked me who I am, allow me to wander about unescorted with a big bit of metal I have now rigged to deliver electric shocks and are immediately entrusting me with their safety.

[Disco]

Teach her a lesson and zap her to death.

[Byron]

Bought Witcher 3. Game is good, but fucking brutally hard at times.

[Ian]

You really need to pick your fights early on.

And then jjust avoid mobs of fucking drowners altogether, even when you're quite happy taking on gryphons and leshens. :moop:

[Shindig]

After an hour of tinkering I finally got Dark Souls to work with DSfix and with my Dual Shock 4. Looks great at 60FPS and I'm already seeing some odd things happening. Stuff like getting soft humanity really early on and a titanite shard dropping off the first enemy. Two bosses down, three deaths because Bloodborne's quick healing has spoilt me.

[Byron]

You really need to pick your fights early on.

And then jjust avoid mobs of fucking drowners altogether, even when you're quite happy taking on gryphons and leshens. :moop:

Yeah I think I've left the first area far too early (level 3) so I'm going to go back and grind the fuck out of whatever I can.

[Ian]

I'd also get started on your first set of Witcher armor ASAP (I just cheated and used Google to find out where I could buy the things that tell you where the schematics are) so you don't have to walk around looking like some lunatic warrior-haberdasher.

EDIT: Also if any of you lot have Dying Light I reckon the co-op would be a hoot.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC1Y5NsnAoQ

For those interested, here's how Bloodborne finished for me. It's an odd thing. Its certainly a steeper challenge than Dark Souls but the roadblocks felt a little less traumatic. Maybe I know what to look for now. It felt so tough in the early going but that seems par for the course with this series until the numbers go in your favour. Pity I didn't get the lore until I had it explained to me. Might've made me appreciate the turn that game takes.

[Disco]

Just tried out my newly unlocked Bushman AR on some bomb defusal missions. It's fucking great and makes the mild app grinding totally worth it. Also very impressed that the bomb missions don't have silly time limits or anything, I think the various side missions might be some of the best bits of the game, maybe even the ones that make you use the shitty bow.

More Longinus next as a delaying tactic because I suspect the mission that's popped up for Noore is going to be rescuing her mates and I can smell a 'you must do it this way' stealth mission a mile off. Sided with Sabal (or Sable as I cannot stop thinking whenever he's mentioned) for the heroin quest because Amita must lack eyes, ears, and possibly a brain if she thinks there's no other industry in not-Tibet. It's fucking stunning and full to bursting with the rarest animals on earth, not to mention the already installed climbing rigs everywhere. Call Thomas Cook, problem solved. Sable being all angry was quite funny though so I'll probably troll the shit out of him for the rest of the game.

[Ian]

I was toying with grinding arena for the Bushman until I realised a) I had more weapons than I need anyway and b) if I want to mow fuckers down I can choose between either Shredder or Buzzsaw.

The Bushman does look ace though.

[Disco]

I would never have bothered in game as even the 5 round weapon sessions only get you a few hundred points a time (level 10 is at 35000) but the Arena mobile app can be linked to your Uplay account and the points are far easier to earn in that. I did it this morning over breakfast.

[Shindig]

I hate Dark Souls II so much. "We have three stats for what used to be the same thing so now your items take forever to get used." I literally cannot get a window to heal against the Persuer. I'm not wasting a parry just to heal.

[CJay]

What's our feelings on the automatic grenade launcher in FC4? I was a little disappointed when I first used it as the individual grenades themselves don't do a huge amount of damage, but then I realised that chaining 3 or 4 together can create complete carnage. It's quite similar to the exploding arrows in that respect, actually.

[Ian]

It's fine, but another near game-breaker.

As I go along I learn that I find there's a very fine balance in your power fantasies between feeling like you're in control of the bad guys and not wanting to feel like you're just clicking on the things you want dead.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I fucking love it.

It's probably my favourite weapon.

There's nothing like firing like a mad man from a gyrocopter and realising you've killed people about a mile away.

Although one time I took out about 4 civilians with one :(

[Ian]

That was amazing. :D

Mahow likes firing madly with explosive things while I fly (given he is a liability as a pilot) but sounded almost crestfallen when apparently he'd killed some poor pleb going about his business without even knowing he was there.

[phonics]

In words I thought I'd never say after Assassins Creed: Brotherhood, I'm playing the new one and I'm really, really enjoying it.

[CJay]

It's fine, but another near game-breaker.

As I go along I learn that I find there's a very fine balance in your power fantasies between feeling like you're in control of the bad guys and not wanting to feel like you're just clicking on the things you want dead.

At the minute I just use it for heavies and vehicles. It's very handy when helicopters show up.

I just did that mission in Shangri-La where Yuma dies.I very nearly turned off the game mid-mission. Why do they make quests like that? :sick:

I enjoyed the defending Uktarsh missions shortly after, though. That's what I like - give me an objective and some enemies to kill and let cool stuff happen around me as I do it.

[Nick]

Is Sleeping Dogs, for PS4, worth spending £12 on?

[P_3]

If you like sandbox games like GTA, sure.

[Disco]

Just done the obligatory 'haha, we've taken all your stuff away ' mission in Far Cry, weapons available pretty quickly though so it wasn't too long before I was holed up where they couldn't see me sniping their balls off.

I do wonder how I got all my things back though, did Pagan post them back after I escaped?

[wullie]

I really liked Sleeping Dogs. £12's a steal.

[CJay]

I just finished Far Cry 4. The game finally discovers a skip function as the credits roll. :moop: Anyway, I give that a solid 8/10. Great fun overall, but a boring and lacklustre storyline with several fairly rubbish and predictable Ubisoft missions

My choice for the next game to play is Thief / Shadow of Mordor / Sleeping Dogs. I think I might give a Thief a go.

[Disco]

I'm into THE NORTH, and it's refreshingly different. Rockier terrain, more frequent enemy patrols, and I didn't realise how much I was missing the faff. :drool:

[Ian]

CJay
Who did you put in control of the Golden Path? Did you kill the one who wasn't in charge? What did you do with Min?

Also, very positive review from RPS of Just Cause 3.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/12/01/just-cause-3-review/

Though I can't help but feel they should have been giving some of those glitches more shit than they did.

[Andrew]

Just finished the main missions in Shadow Of Mordor, really enjoyed it the fact I'm a little of a LOTR nut helped a lot aswell.

The Nemesis system is a little "Meh" to be honest as I didn't really feel it made that much of a difference to what was happening in the game world.

Don't think I can be arsed to go back and do all the little side missions etc as I'm way overpowered now and it's all a little to easy.

So its a choice of Alien Isolation or Dark Souls 2 as my next game.

Having smashed Bloodborne and deciding it's close to one of the best games I've ever played, will Dark Souls be a little bit of a let down now?

[Raoul Duke]

Also, very positive review from RPS of Just Cause 3.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/12/01/just-cause-3-review/

Though I can't help but feel they should have been giving some of those glitches more shit than they did.

Looking forward to JC 3. Seems like a fun thing to dip into every so often and blow some shit up.

[CJay]

CJay
Who did you put in control of the Golden Path? Did you kill the one who wasn't in charge? What did you do with Min?

I let Sabal take charge. I didn't kill Amita. And I shot Min in his crab rangoon-filled mouth. I haven't experienced it personally, but if you go to Jalendu Temple (the sight of the bomb disarming mission near the end) you'll get a sort of 'epilogue' from Sabal. Sort of makes me regret my decision having seen it. Do you know how the end plays out if you side with Amita?

[Shindig]

Having smashed Bloodborne and deciding it's close to one of the best games I've ever played, will Dark Souls be a little bit of a let down now?

In relative terms, yes. Its the weakest of the series and I regard its predecessor as a stone-cold classic. The way stamina works in that game will be a real shock to your system. I'll probably wind up enjoying it now I've got the Pursuer down but some of the changes they made from Dark Souls to DS II have rubbed me up the wrong way.

[Ian]

How can you like Shadow of Mordor but not love the Nemesis system, you maniac? I not only loved it, I want other open-world games pilfering it.


I let Sabal take charge. I didn't kill Amita. And I shot Min in his crab rangoon-filled mouth. I haven't experienced it personally, but if you go to Jalendu Temple (the sight of the bomb disarming mission near the end) you'll get a sort of 'epilogue' from Sabal. Sort of makes me regret my decision having seen it. Do you know how the end plays out if you side with Amita?

Other than the little spiel when it sends you back to the homestead not a lot, I don't think. Might be wrong. I shot Min as well, though I gather if you sit and speak to him you still get the Lakshmana but depending on the weapons you've brought with you you can then shoot down his helicopter when he fucks off anyway.

[CJay]

How can you like Shadow of Mordor but not love the Nemesis system, you maniac? I not only loved it, I want other open-world games pilfering it.



Other than the little spiel when it sends you back to the homestead not a lot, I don't think. Might be wrong. I shot Min as well, though I gather if you sit and speak to him you still get the Lakshmana but depending on the weapons you've brought with you you can then shoot down his helicopter when he fucks off anyway.

Did you see what Sabal does at the end? He executes those who were on Amita's side in front of the girl god. Seems a tad harsh to me.

Oh and the North map was way cooler than the South map, in my opinion. Although I spent a regrettably large amount of time in the south compared to the north. I wish I'd battered through the missions earlier on.

[Ian]

I'd read that that happens, yeah. Didn't know you had to visit them to see a bit more though, will fire it up to see what Amita's up to.

I preferred the south in terms of the look of the place. A bit lusher and jollier.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Some of the north was utterly depressing.

I remember riding over to Min's fortress and thinking 'I really wouldn't like to live here'.

It was like the north of England but somehow even worse.

[Dark Soldier]

So its a choice of Alien Isolation or Dark Souls 2 as my next game.

Having smashed Bloodborne and deciding it's close to one of the best games I've ever played, will Dark Souls be a little bit of a let down now?

Don't play Dark Souls 2. I put over a hundred hours into it so odd to have me complain about it but compared to Bloodborne or DkS 1 its shambolic and awful. If you can, somehow, get a hold of Dark Souls 1 and be absolutely fricking amazed.

[Andrew]

Ian It's not that I didn't like it as such, the way the orcs would remember if you ran away from a fight or tried setting them on fire etc was pretty cool.

Taking one under your control and getting promoted was fun aswell.

Shindig Watched a few DS2 reviews on YouTube and they all seem to agree with you on that DS2 is a good game but the weakest of the series.

Maybe the fact I've never played the first game ill enjoy it more than the people who had higher expectations of the game.

Darks Souls 3 is on the horizon so looking forward to that.

Or I could just splash the cash on the DLC for Bloodborne?!?!?

[Shindig]

I feel like I'm playing 2 just to plug the lore gaps in preparation for 3. Dark Souls 1 is magnificent.

Dragonrider down on the first try so I'm back where I left off. Found No Man's Wharf which seems to have some fodder in it. Ring of Binding equipped too so I can let the effigies stock up.

[CJay]

Booted up Sleeping Dogs for the first time tonight. Did the first mission and some stick up and delivery one. Good fun so far, I'm liking the fighting style. The best bit is the brutal takedowns when you grapple someone. I do enjoy throwing a guy down a ventilation shaft. :D The driving doesn't feel like the greatest, but still plenty of fun.

There are loads of cut scenes it seems, but mercifully we're allowed to skip them.
Nick did you end up buying it?

[Nick]

Yeah, I did in the end - along with Far Cry 4.

It arrived today actually. I may get some time to play in later this evening, but if not, it'll be tomorrow.

[Dark Soldier]

Lads I mean come on game of the fucking forever


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhxngUz6C3U


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK5f7ozzOM

[Dark Soldier]

Its Dark Souls crossed with Bloodborne and its all my dreams

[ItalAussie]

Bought Oddworld New & Tasty.

Computer can't deal with it. Putting it on the backburner, and going back to the original. :D

[Ian]

I reckon I'm going to like Far Cry Primal. Taming animals to do my dirty work. :drool:

[CJay]

Aye, take it you saw the video? It'll be interesting to see what variety of weapons you can use. I'm not sure how enjoyable it will be without the ability to blow stuff up, though. In case anyone missed it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bvzx2AXaYg

[Ian]

I'd be astonished if there isn't magic or some hand-wavey mix of natural hocus pocus ingredients to create explosions of some sort.