TTH NFL Fantasy Football 2017 thread

[Pleb]

By comparison here is the team Yahoo is projecting to win the league:

QB: Rodgers, Stafford, Carr
WR: Beckham, Jeffrey, Thielen, Hill, Richardson, Agholor, Doctson, Bryant, Sutton
RB: Zeke, Kamara, McCaffrey, Guice, A.Jones, Montgomery, Thompson
TE: Graham, Rudolph, Engram
DST: Denver, Rams
K: Tucker, Zuerlein

I mean, they are easily my biggest threat, but I'd take mine any day of the week.
I have a thielen (:baz:) that Thielen and Agholor will go on a massive tear this season and leave OBJ to dust.

The rest of that team is a little bit suspect (minus the kickers obvs).

[Dan]

Thielen, Kamara, Deshaun Watson & Saquon will be the most overdrafted players in fantasy this season, I think. Maybe throw Derrick Henry & Jerick McKinnon in there too.

[Pleb]

I take full credit for telling all of you guys to draft Thielen last season :cool:

[Dan]

Yeah, that one worked out pretty well :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thielen, Kamara, Deshaun Watson & Saquon will be the most overdrafted players in fantasy this season, I think. Maybe throw Derrick Henry & Jerick McKinnon in there too.

Yeah but you can forgive them (Kamara, Watson and Saquon) for going high in dynasty leagues.

[Browning]

He’ll kick the fuck out of anyone in a kicker battle. Rest of the team is nowhere close though.

What does the Sanu team look like?

It's so horrifically bad, and this draft did nothing to fix it:

QB: Allen, Dalton, Brady
WR: Sanu, Gallup, Chark, St. Brown, T.Williams, Benjamin, Wallace, Edelman, Fitzgerald, Crabtree
RB: Duke Johnson, Buck Allen, Powell, J.Williams, Murray, Lewis
TE: Goedert, James, Kelce, Reed
DST: Dallas, Seattle
K: Gostkowski

Kelce is his only asset at all I think. He was on auto draft for the initial draft and has done himself no favours since. He traded away Tyreek Hill for a bag of beans which didn't help, but somehow came 3rd last year.

[Dan]

He's really helped himself by picking a rookie QB that can't hit a 5yd pass, a rookie WR that can't run routes & a rookie TE that will barely play for at least a season.

[Browning]

His trade history since we started is:

Matt Stafford for Josh McCown and Larry Fitz
Josh Doctson and Tyreek Hill for Dion Lewis and Chris Thompson
Chris Thompson for Kelvin Benjamin

All with the same guy as well (the other team I posted).

I would love to make an offer for Kelce, but no idea where to even start as he has nothing else that interests me.

Edit- For clarification in his lineup, that's Terrance Williams, not Tyrell.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's not unlike my first ever draft for TTH.

Loading up on Rookies because of Madden, what fun times.

[Dan]

His trade history since we started is:

Matt Stafford for Josh McCown and Larry Fitz
Josh Doctson and Tyreek Hill for Dion Lewis and Chris Thompson
Chris Thompson for Kelvin Benjamin

All with the same guy as well (the other team I posted).

I would love to make an offer for Kelce, but no idea where to even start as he has nothing else that interests me.

Edit- For clarification in his lineup, that's Terrance Williams, not Tyrell.

Does he know that Terrance Williams was arrested a few days ago?

[Browning]

I have to say I enjoyed the Rookie draft experience and I would recommend everyone do them offline. You probably need a shorter deadline than 12 hours per pick, but we did the whole draft in about a day and a half, and the potential for trading up/down was great, which you wouldn't get with an online 2 minutes per pick style draft.

Our full results were:


Round 1: Barkley, Guice, Penny, Michel, Sanu, Chubb, Freeman, Jones
Note- Pick 1.02 was traded for Pick 1.06 with Drake and a 3rd rounder also changing hands. Pick 1.08 was traded for Russell Wilson pre-draft.

Round 2: Hurns, Moore, Burton, K.Johnson, D.Johnson Jr, Richardson, Walker, Ridley

Round 3: Kirk, Agholor, Miller, Ballage, Gallup, Jones, Houston (only 7 teams had a pick this round)
Note: Agholor and Jones went to the same team as a result of the round 1 trade.

Round 4: Gesicki, Godwin, Sutton, Hurst, Allen (only 5 teams had a pick in this round)
Note: Pick 4.03 was obtained by trading away Cooper Kupp.

Round 5: Mayfield, Hines, Kittle, Goedert (Only 4 teams remaining).

Round 6: Prater, J.Washington, Darnold, Chark

Round 7: C.Coleman, Trubisky, Pettis, St. Brown
Note- I re-entered the draft following the Fournette trade.

Round 8: Crowell, L.Jackson, Brate (Only 3 teams left)

Round 9: Stills, Rosen, Butker
Note- I traded away 9.01 for Hogan to the team who also had 9.02

After that only 1 team (the guy picking 3rd each round) remained and with his final 3 picks got Gould, New England and Eifert

[Dan]

You should all be disgusted with yourselves for having Darnold, Rosen & Jackson going after Matt fucking Prater

[Browning]

It's an 8 team, 1 QB league. QBs don't have the value they have elsewhere. I don't know why that guy felt the need to get a 2nd kicker though.

[Gray Fox]

Lord Tucker :drool:

He wins.

He's no Jake Elliott.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's no Jake Elliott.

You've been on the sauce.

[Gray Fox]

My boy Jake doesn't need domes to kick 61 yards.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He kicks in more domes (probably) than Tucker and his accuracy is far below the GOAT.

[Gray Fox]

I think we can all agree Adam Vinatieri is the GOAT.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Justin 'Most accurate kicker in NFL history being the only person currently having made 90% or more of his kicks' Tucker disagrees.

[Browning]

So now that Hunter is dead I get a free add to replace him. I almost certainly have to pick up a TE unless I can swing a trade. If not.... I have no idea who to go with. According to FP the top options are: Clay, Ebron, Cook, ASJ, Watson, McDonald. Any thoughts?

Edit- Obviously that's for 2018... I'm not looking for a stunning Dynasty option, just a 1 year plug in.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Could wait and see who the Chargers sign to replace Henry.

More than likely be Gates who will be the undisputed starter.

[Browning]

I probably can't wait too long. People were concerned about drafting too early because of injuries so the compromise was if you got a season ender you could have a free add to replace them, but the waivers aren't actually open until Pre-Season. I obviously wasn't anticipating a season ender this early... but after discussion with my co-commissioner about how best to handle it now, it was suggested a 48 hour deadline to allow trade talk etc. I can't think of a better way to handle it really, but I'm not thrilled by that system. I'm also unsure on when actual waivers should kick in. What do most people actually do with that in a dynasty?

[Dan]

From that lot I'd probably take ASJ, but it's not an inspiring bunch. Watson will probably get 60 catches this season, which might be decent enough in our offence, but then he's just as likely to get hurt as soon as his old body takes a hit, so maybe not.

I've set our dynasty league to be waivers as soon as the draft ends, so people can't just go adding all the hot free agents over the preseason. Also, Sir Andy Mahowry log in & reject the trade offer I sent you over a week ago :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Or accept?

I forgot about it actually.

I saw the email notification and lolled heartily at the time.

[Browning]

Yea, I've put everyone on waivers, but when do you intend to start letting people make waiver moves? I've locked all moves until pre-season currently.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also, I decided to take a look at my keepers again.

I've just noticed that he took Brandon Marshall 6th overall last year.

Previous owner was a fucking train wreck.

[Browning]

I'm leaning towards doing away with the rule altogether for free pick ups after injuries. Just not sure it makes sense in a dynasty. I still would have kept Henry regardless.

Still not a clue when I should start allowing waivers/free agent pick ups though.

[Dan]

I think mine is just set to go to waivers immediately after the draft, but I’ve not had a proper look at the settings in a bit.

[Browning]

Alshon and Rudolph for Allen and Mike Williams
Alshon, Rudolph and Doctson for Mike Williams, Funchess and Jordan Howard

Fuck off.

[Pleb]

:D

The gift that keeps on giving.

[Dan]

I feel a bit better about trying to send Mahow half my unwanted players for two of his picks now :D

[Dan]

Doing a mock draft on the train home & the guy with the first pick went Rodgers, Jacksonville DST, Justin Tucker with his first three picks. Julio Jones was still on the board.

He’s on another level.

EDIT: Penny & Jones next. One guy got angry & left :D

In contrast, I ended up with Hopkins, OBJ & Amari Cooper as my starting WRs :drool:

[Browning]

The guy in my league who owns Antonio Brown put him up for sale when he of the shitty trade offers made him a shitty offer. I was somewhat tempted to make a play (though it's much harder having recently sold the farm for Fournette) but I found out Fay's Fall Guys had offered him Diggs, Mixon and Juju for Brown and Ajayi. I'm not willing to compete with that, it's too much in my opinion. But the guy hasn't taken it and supposedly tried to put together a deal that involved Evans and let him keep Ajayi..... fucking hell.

[Dan]

I think I’d actually consider giving up Brown for that offer in a dynasty league. Was he trying to get Evans as well? :cab:

[Browning]

I think it was Evans in place of JuJu but also taking Ajayi out of the offer, which is insane. The reason JuJu was included at all was because he didn't want 2 WRs from the same team as well, so that would defy the point.

[Gray Fox]

Posting to remind myself to set my keepers.

Mates wedding and Champions League final tomorrow. No chance it gets done then.

[Browning]

"Jeffery is the highest ranked player involved in this offer, and Graham is going to finish the year as a top-5 TE (maybe even top-3). And he's a player that you will use every week, while Robinson and Howard are both more likely to ride the bench for the majority of the season (even though replacing Robinson with Jeffery is likely an upgrade thanks to uncertainty at QB and recovery)."

Supposedly that's an improved offer. Fucking hell.

[Dan]

Yep, Jimmy ‘can’t move anynore’ Graham is going to be an elite TE this season playing on a team that never throws to its TEs.

[Gray Fox]

Set my keepers. When you and Mahow get done with yours that'll be 6 people set.

[Dan]

I’m doing mine at the last minute, since I’m the commissioner. One bloke hasn’t logged in for 5 months though, and can’t be contacted by email, so that could be another spot that opens up.

[Browning]

So after some discussions with the league, I've come up with my waiver rules. Weekly waivers on a Tuesday, but no free agency following it. You will however be allowed one FA add per player that you've placed on IR... but only in the week it happens. So next Tuesday, I get one add to replace Hunter Henry.

According to FP, the best dynasty players out there are: Gio Bernard, John Brown, Samaje Perine, Eric Ebron, Kenneth Dixon, Tyrell Williams, Doug Martin, John Kelly, Latavius Murray, Curtis Samuel, Zay Jones, Austin Hooper, CJ Prosise and Jordan Wilkins. None of that seems worth a waiver, but I'll likely have to pick a FA out of that lot, of the list of TEs I put up previously.

The other option is to take a real punt on someone with potential upside later on. There's an article on FP again regarding Dynasty sleepers that lists the following: Tavon Austin, Danny Amendola, Brice Butler, Amara Darboh, Kendall Wright, Taywan Taylor, Clive Walford and Jordan Akins. Not sure if any of them are any more appealing though. Part of me would be tempted to take a punt on Tavon if he cleared waivers.... but that's probably stupid. There's just so much coach hype around him at the moment.

[Pleb]

I take it your not feeling Amendola's value then Browning?

[Browning]

I have no idea what that means....

[Dan]

I feel like Amendola is probably the best of those guys you've mentioned there, but he'll probably get injured if he starts three games in a row, so maybe Hooper in the hope that he actually decides to get his shit together.

[Dan]

Anyone else wanna take over a team in the dynasty league? One guy hasn’t logged in for five months & can’t be contacted, so if someone is willing to commit by Sunday I’ll let you take over & do your keepers before I clear the teams.

Here’s the team. (https://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/leagues/203218/teams/1358640)

[Gray Fox]

I could ask the other competent guy from my work league if you'd like?

[Dan]

Sure, why not?

[Gray Fox]

I've asked the question. I'll report back with what he says.

[Dan]

Any answer? Planning to clear keepers around 5 so if he’s in he’ll need to get sorted by then.

[Gray Fox]

He's just got back to me now. He's unsure if he'd have the time to play it properly, so says no.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You could post it on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/findaleague/

[Dan]

I’ll deal with it after keepers now.

[Dan]

Well, one of the owners I’d set keepers for has now dropped out :D I’d feel bad if I hadn’t sent about fifty messages letting everyone know when the deadline was. We now have two roster spots to fill by Saturday though.

Reddit may be the way forward. I just need to work out how the fuck it works.

[Browning]

Got to make my free add today after only the Steelers were claimed. Think I’ve narrowed it down to Amendola, Tavon Austin or Tre’Quan. Would rather a TE to fit my team but don’t think any that are out there are worth it.

[Dan]

Not Tavon.

[Browning]

History says he’s garbage but the coach hype is seriously tempting.

That said with my team being as strong as it is it probably makes sense to get Tre’Quan and wait on him.

[Pleb]

Amendola or Tre'Quan personally.

Saying that you might of already grabbed Tre'Quan.

[Browning]

I have indeed grabbed Tre'Quan. It was a tough call, but ultimately he has the most long term value. I did consider Gio late on, but I'm just not convinced by him at all. A Brees WR is bound to have value at some point.

The Antonio Brown negotiations are still going on, with the latest being the Brown owner asked for a 1st rounder to be added to the deal. I wouldn't mind, but I have a trade agreed with the other guy if he gets Brown... so I just want it over with.

[Gray Fox]

Our draft is still going ahead at 10pm tonight, right Dan ?

[Dan]

Our draft is still going ahead at 10pm tonight, right Dan ?

Yep, just about managed to get two random owners in & set their keepers up before the draft. We have a total of 145 picks, so it's basically a standard length draft, except most teams will stop at R12.

[Pleb]

Completely forgot it was Dan's draft tonight :face:

[Dan]

Just as well you've been reminded with two hours to spare then.

[Gray Fox]

You can even mock draft as our leagues keepers and draft order are. Ran through it a few times so far.

[Browning]

Jamaal Charles is a great pick in dynasty.

[Gray Fox]

Don't tell him that. I'm taking him #1 overall.

[Dan]

I'd seen the mock draft thing but not actually done one as I got worried that I was accidentally doing the real draft :D

[Gray Fox]

It is quite odd, but still a quality tool. I'll see you all in there in 15 mins.

My only question is, can you trade up/down whilst the draft is live?

[Dan]

I assume so, but you'd probably have to be quick about it. Just gonna make a coffee then I'll be there.

[Dan]

Pleb get in the draft room now

[Pleb]

My first two picks :D

[Dan]

Are you in?

[Pleb]

The Dalton pick was purely me taking fucking too long to make the pick. He's probably going on the trade block if anyone's interested.

[Gray Fox]

I'll give you Jamaal Charles for him.

[Dan]

I've just had a look at the Mean Machine roster :uhoh: Studs at every position (except TE, but he does have Hunter Henry). Of course they're the team I play week one.

[Browning]

Where are these draft results to laugh at?

[Gray Fox]

I'm #1, Mahow is #2, Pleb is #3 and Dan is #6.



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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I made a lot of misjudgments there. I undervalued a lot of players who were taken just before the pick I wanted them with.

[Pleb]

Mayfield at 7 :D

[Dan]

I had three go a few picks after I’d passed on them, all of which were RBs, the position I need most :moop:

I pretty much just started panic picking from round three onwards because I had no idea how to value anyone at that point.

[Pleb]

Dan's league schedule is disgusting.

Comeback Boys wk1, Zepps wk2, Dan wk3 and Gray Fox wk4 :uhoh:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My last 8 picks or something (including rounds not shown) were just rookies for TEH FUTURE. There was fuck all left at that point.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also seeing loads of QBs go just before me (I wanted Loomar in the fourth you prick) made me seethe. Having to settle on Bradford :sick:

I should have taken Rosen in the fourth after missing on Loomar but I thought he'd last another round too.

[Dan]

I can’t wait for him to start so you can sell me your whole team for him :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He wont start this year unless Flacco is injured.

I guarantee it.

I also guarantee that this IS the year of Kenneth Dixon.

[Pleb]

Bit early I know but here's my random Yahoo! league draft last night:

1. Alvin Kamara
2. Travis Kelce
3. Adam Thielen :baz:
4. Russell Wilson
5. JuJu Smith-Schuster
6. Kirk Cousin
7. Devin Funchess
8. Mark Ingram
9. Nelson Agholor
10. Wil Lutz
11. Seattle
12. Isaiah Crowell
13. Sterling Shepard
14. Tarik Cohen
15. Austin Seferian-Jenkins

Kareem Hunt, Saquon Barkley and Mike Evans went late first, early second round which was slightly interesting. No one went for Case Keenum which I was adamant some random pleb would of took him so I may offload Cousins for him once preseason hits unless some random person has already took him since Waivers starts tomorrow. I could take a punt on Mayfield though. Scoring is as standard as a normal "draft now" league would look so nothing major there then. I'm sorry Mahow no one took Kenneth Dixon :D JuJu is currently questionable with a knee problem so nothing to worry about there lads.

[Browning]

What the fuck are you doing taking a QB2 in Round 6?

That said, Cousins is infinitely better than Keenum. He's the only QB in the last 3 years to be a top 8 QB every year. If you drop him for Keenum, especially after investing a 6th in him, you should be expelled from the league. It would be like dropping Russell Wilson for Alex Smi.... oh.

[Dan]

I’m not convinced by that group of WRs.

[Gray Fox]

I have so many questions regarding that draft. I'm not sure where to start.

[Browning]

If it's a 12 teamer then Thielen in round 3 is a steal. Even in a 12 though you've over paid for Kelce (assuming you were somewhere around 7-9 which prompted you to take Kamara).

[Pleb]

I was early 4th, late 4th. Roast away lads :cool:

[Browning]

What does that even mean?

How many teams were in the draft and where did you pick?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He picked 4th (lol at that Kanara pick then) and 4th from last.

[Browning]

So a 7 team league? Because I'm reading it that he was 4th in each round.

If it's 4th from first and 4th from last (AKA 4th...) then we still need to know how many teams were in there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm betting on 12.

So he was 4th then 8th repeat.

[Pleb]

Ten team league.

[Pleb]

Round 1
Todd Gurley II
Le’Veon Bell
Ezekiel Elliott
Alvin Kamara
Antonio Brown
Leonard Fournette
David Johnson
Odell Beckham Jr
Kareem Hunt
Saquon Barkley

Round 2
Melvin Gordon
Julio Jones
DeAndre Hopkins
Michael Thomas
Rob Gronkowski
Dalvin Cook
Travis Kelce
AJ Green
Devante Adams
Mike Evans

Round 3
LeSean McCoy
Keenan Allen
Josh Gordon
Adam Thielen
Devonta Freeman
Doug Baldwin
Jerick McKinnon
Zach Ertz
Alshon Jeffery
Aaron Rodgers

Round 4
Brandin Cooks
Jordan Howard
Christian McCaffrey
Tyreek Hill
Tom Brady
Kenyan Drake
Russell Wilson
Rashaad Penny
Joe Mixon
Amari Cooper

Round 5
Ronald Jones II
Stefon Diggs
Jimmy Graham
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Allen Robinson II
Jarvis Landry
Derrick Henry
Larry Fitzgerald
DeShawn Watson
Greg Olsen

Round 6
Lamar Miller
TY Hilton
Jay Ajayi
Evan Engram
Carson Wentz
Robert Woods
Kirk Cousins
Ben Roethlisberger
Dion Lewis
Golden Tate

Round 7
Drew Brees
Cam Newton
Demaryius Thomas
Devin Funchess
Jimmy Garoppolo
Sacksonville DEF
Jared Goff
Matt Ryan
Derrius Guice
Chris Hogan

Round 8
Will Fuller V
Alex Collins
Sony Michel
Eagles DEF
Robby Anderson
Kyle Rudolph
Mark Ingram
LA Rams DEF
Delanie Walker
Marvin Jones Jr

Round 9
Marshawn Lynch
Greg Zuerlein
Royce Freeman
Nelson Agholor
Vikings DEF
Corey Davis
Stephen Gostkowski
Denver DEF
Trey Burton
Texans DEF

Round 10
Julian Edelman
Chargers DEF
Justin Tucker
Tevin Coleman
Aaron Jones
Jamison Crowder
Wil Lutz
Phillip Rivers
Patriots DEF
Matthew Stafford

Round 11
George Kittle
Andrew Luck
Jake Elliott
Seahawks DEF
Mat Bryant
Dan Bailey
Michael Crabtree
Marlon Mack
Matt Prater
Chris Carson

Round 12
Patrick Mahomes II
Pierre Garcon
Cooper Kupp
Rex Burkhead
Dez Bryant
David Njoku
Isaiah Crowell
Devontae Booker
Sammy Watkins
Jameis Winston

Round 13
Saints DEF
CJ Anderson
Nick Chubb
Sterling Shepard
Derek Carr
Chris Thompson
Jordan Reed
Jack Doyle
Tyler Eifert
Jordy Nelson

Round 14
Eric Ebron
Dak Preescot
Marcus Mariota
Alex Smith
OJ Howard
Marquise Goodwin
Tarik Cohen
Calvin Ridley
Cameron Brate
Benjamin Watson

Round 15
Harrison Butker
Ravens DEF
Carlos Hyde
Austin Seferian-Jenkins
Duke Johnson Jr
Chiefs DEF
Panthers DEF
Steelers DEF
Cardinals DEF
Robbie Gould

:sherlock:

[Dan]

How did nobody claim Hunter Henry?! :drool:

Effectively just swapped Hilton, Crowell, Fuller & Hooper for McCaffrey, Henry & Jaylen Samuels, which I’m completely fine with.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Because of his ACL injury.

He's too injury prone for my liking.

[Pleb]

Elliott for Crowder, Ingram and Charles?

Are you alright Gray Fox?

[Browning]

What? Elliott is worth approximately 20 times that.

[Dan]

Here I am trying to make balanced offers and those are the kinds of trades everyone else is proposing :D

[Limoutsonik]

So,the new NFL.com fantasy leagues launched and as usual made my batch of team which naturally graduated to extravagant trade offers. Here is one i got accepted right out of the bat.
Me receiving: Deandre Hopkins,Jags Def
Him receiving:Kyle Rudolph,Alex Smith,Sony Michel,Nelson Agholor,Seahawks DEF.
Thoughts?Good,bad,hilariously shit?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A bag of shit for Hopkins and the best fantasy defence? Good deal. Especially if you have a decent TE option.

[Limoutsonik]

How is Jack Doyle regarded then?Also,C.Brate,D.Njoku,E.Ebron,T.Kroft,M.Lewis, B.Watson,V.Davis,ASJ are available as free agents to pick up to complement him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Doyle will be good if Luck is fine.

Ebron, Kroft, Lewis and Davis are tash.

Brate could be good but OJ will get more looks this year. Njoku might be a little raw still and he has to try with a new QB now, Watson could be a great red zone target for Brees and ASJ is a tough one, he has great attributes but he's only had one good season.

[Gray Fox]

Tyrod Taylor only threw to 3 people in Buffalo. RB, TE and 1 WR. If he continues that, Njoku is a good shout.

However you dont spend a #1 pick on a QB and sit him for long. Mayfield may well be completely different when he comes in.

[Browning]

If that's true, Clay must be the worst player in history, because he did fuck all for me in fantasy (I won the championship despite him though).

Plus, that's all he had in Buffalo.

[Gray Fox]

I said he threw to him, I didn't say anything about catching!

[Dan]

Wasn’t Clay injured last season?

Tyrod should get the whole season if we’re going on merit, but #1 picks don’t sit anymore so Baker will probably come in at the bye week.

That’s a cracking trade, by the way.

[Browning]

Not really. He missed a few games at one point I think but he was rotated with Henry in my dynasty team and played in the final games after Henry went down.

[Dan]

Ah, then he must’ve just been shit.

[Gray Fox]

Work league has gained a member but lost the two inactives from last year. Would be nice to have the 10, but as it is it's going to be a 9 man league, but the one thing it does do is allow me to possibly improve my draft position.

I was going to be up last as I've won it the past 2 years. So even if I get drawn last again I'll not have lost anything.

We'll be going 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE, D/ST, K, this year. 20 man roster though. So the commissioner still hasn't got it quite right, but it's much better. No player limits any more.

If they draft as bad as I know they can I could build a filthy roster with that. We'll see how it goes.

[Dan]

Is this the one where you had the super team?

[Gray Fox]

It wasn't quite as good last season, but still did the job.

The season before I got David Johnson, Julio Jones and AJ Green in the first 3 rounds. People get too hung up on favourites or heavily overpay for players they think they have to have.

[Gray Fox]

Elliott for Crowder, Ingram and Charles?

Are you alright Gray Fox?

I've only just noticed this. You dont ask, you dont get!

Just straight swap, Charles for Zeke then? :baz:

[Limoutsonik]

Trade accept #2 in another team i own.
Me getting: Deandre Hopkins
He gets:Jordy Nelson,Aaron Rodgers,Brandin Cooks,Carlos Hyde
I think i went a bit overboard here given that i gave him Rodgers even though i have Andrew Luck as my next go-to. Thoughts?

[Pleb]

:|

[Dan]

Trade accept #2 in another team i own.
Me getting: Deandre Hopkins
He gets:Jordy Nelson,Aaron Rodgers,Brandin Cooks,Carlos Hyde
I think i went a bit overboard here given that i gave him Rodgers even though i have Andrew Luck as my next go-to. Thoughts?

I think you’ll be very disappointed if Watson just had a decent season.

[Browning]

Hopkins would still be a WR1 with Pleb throwing to him to be fair.

[Dan]

Yeah, if anyone can get away with average QB play it’s him. Still not entirely sure what I think of the Texans offence this season though.

[Gray Fox]

I think Watson is being way overvalued. The pace he was setting last season is surely impossible to keep up. Besides, no one knows what the injury will have done to him.

[Limoutsonik]

Trade accept #3
Me getting: Keenan Allen,Antonio Brown
Him getting:Aaron Rodgers,Calvin Ridley,Jags Def,Delanie Walker,Robert Woods,Carlos Hyde,Derrius Guice

Yeah,i know. Kinda lopsided but i already have Gurley,Mixon,A.J Green and Josh Gordon.

[Pleb]

Is your team shite by any chance?

Getting rid of Rodgers may of royally fucked you though.

[Limoutsonik]

It's really not and i have Rivers to use now that i have traded away Rodgers.I get 2 Top 5 WR's to slot with Gurley and A.J Green.

[Dan]

I'd much rather have Brown & Keenan than a bunch of mid-rounders. Ridley, Walker, Woods & Hyde could all do absolutely fuck all this year & I wouldn't be at all surprised, Guice unproven on a potentially garbage offence with three other RBs, and the Jags are a defence, and therefore completely devoid of value no matter how good they are.

This might be the least valuable QBs have been in years too, since there are about 20 who could be solid fantasy players, so yeah, I approve.

Gurley, Brown, Green & Allen on the same team :drool: You could have Lamar Jackson at QB & still probably have a winning season. I thought I'd done alright getting Bell, Green & Baldwin in a mock I did earlier, but that's filthy.

[Limoutsonik]

In my mind,if you don't ask,you will never know. Just throw everything against the wall and see what sticks.

[Browning]

Sometimes you trade Corey Coleman for Todd Gurley or Ameer Abdullah for Devante Adams.

[Browning]

Two trades just completed in my Dynasty league (not involving me). The team numbers are their finishing position from last season (8 team league):

Team #4 Sends- Alshon Jeffrey
Team # 6 Sends- Jamison Crowder

Team 4 is probably my biggest rival for the crown, but I feel he's gotten weaker there, albeit not significantly. He's a big Redskins fan who seems to have confused Alex Smith with Drew Brees as he's now drafted Guice and Richardson while trading for Thompson and Crowder.

Team #8 Sends- Antonio Brown, Jay Ajayi, Greg Olsen, Tyler Lockett
Team # 7 Sends- Steffon Diggs, Joe Mixon, JuJu Smith-Schuster, Robert Woods

Like this for the worst team in the league, but Team 7 (Fay's Fall Guys) got a LOT of young talent in the draft, so it makes sense for him too on some level. This also opens up the possibility of me trading Chris Hogan for Greg Olsen which I'll probably jump on given that Howard is my only healthy TE.

Edit- It's done, and with Olsen added to the line up I'm now projected to win the league (having somehow not been projected to do so before getting him).

[Limoutsonik]

Another day,another trade accepted.No.4 now.Different team than the previous ones.
I get:Kareem Hunt,Odell Beckham Jr.
He gets:Russell Wilson,Marshawn Lynch,Robert Woods,Allen Hurns,Sony Michel and Jaguars Def.
Also,my team is already composed of Devonta Freeman,Ezekiel Eliott,Philip Rivers,Josh Gordon,Marvin Jones and Rob Gronkowski. OP much?

[Pleb]

:cool:

[Dan]

Just tried to take a look at the TTH league & it went to an error page. Is it fucked, or is it just because it's not been renewed yet?

[Browning]

Crap. I went to renew it just to make sure and seemingly it automatically renewed everyone's teams. That could be a headache if anyone wasn't planning to renew.... Can people let me know in here if they aren't planning to stay?

Must have pressed something that did that without reading it, oops.

But yea, hopefully it works now.

[Browning]

Seems there is a problem with the league URL. I had this in my Dynasty league too and I was able to fix it by removing the capital letters, but there seems to be technical issues on the site stopping me doing that right now. I'll fix it when I can. In the meantime you should be able to access the league from your own page.

[Dan]

Yeah, it works now.

[Gray Fox]

Our work league draft is coming up very soon, as such we've just drawn our numbers. I pick at #9(of 10) this year. My luck on these draws is shit. That's 4th, 6th, 10th and 9th now.

We're drafting in the place I was watching the Eagles win the Superbowl too, so hopefully that brings back some luck. I'm aiming for 3 times running.

[Browning]

You could let Pleb draft for you and win that league.

[Pleb]

How many keepers did we decide on for TTH?

[Gray Fox]

We've 2 new joiners this season. No idea how good they are. I'll be sure to post draft results after they happen.

[Dan]

How many keepers did we decide on for TTH?

I don't think we did. Last season was one, but there was talk of upping it to two. Think we got 0.5 PPR agreed though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I believe it was 2 keepers max but you can't keep any players you kept the year before.

That or you get 2 seasons to keep your keepers.

[Dan]

2 keepers & only for a year sounds fine to me.

[Browning]

Tre’Quan out, Ivory in... be amazing if he ends up the starter so I can trade him away.

[Gray Fox]

Well at least I don't have to draft Shady this season.

[Dan]

He'll probably still get 250 carries.

[Gray Fox]

Our draft has been pushed back now into August. Still keeping our allotted order, so I should be able to do plenty of mock drafts between now and then. From #9 it looks like I could well be faced with a choice of Fournette or Hopkins in the first round.

Given it's a 3 WR standard, I'm leaning towards taking the latter, as I'll be picking again 2nd in R2. The guy behind me is a big Fournette fan though so I doubt he'd make it back.

[Browning]

I'm a Fournette fan too (sold the farm for him in dynasty) but Hopkins is the pick all day long.

[Gray Fox]

This is the first proper year of no bollocks too. The old commissioner was a cunt, made a stupid draft order and had idiotic rules and player limits etc. All has been fixed this time around.

Had a vote on whether we wanted linear, snake or auction type draft. The latter would have been an absolute disaster.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hopkins is life.

[Browning]

OK, so the league URLs and history etc should be fixed. I also dug out last year's keepers, so the following players can't be kept again:

DeMarco Murray (big loss there)
Melvin Gordon
Aaron Rodgers
Bilal Powell
Golden Tate
Mike Evans
Le'Veon Bell
Julio Jones

Happy to roll with the 2 keepers, and the 0.5 point PPR.

Probably keep everything else the same.

My main league draft has been set for 25.08.18 so i'll probably look to get this draft at a similar time as I like to keep them close together, plus that feels about right. Keeper deadline can be a few days before whenever we set the date.

So may as well open the discussions as to when we want to draft. If anyone isn't intending to play again, let me know. Also if we have any potential new teams, again I could consider that, but unless someone drops out, they won't get any keepers.

[Gray Fox]

My work draft is the afternoon of 5th August. I'm also on my jollies between the 17th and 24th. Sunday the 26th would be good for me.

[Pleb]

My work draft is the afternoon of 5th August. I'm also on my jollies between the 17th and 24th. Sunday the 26th would be good for me.
:chief:

[Browning]

I don’t see it happening, but thinking about it, if additional players did join we would have to trim the rosters and probably therefore cut it to one keeper. But yea, I don’t see 2 additional players coming out of nowhere.

The Sunday seems a decent option to me.

[Browning]

Set the draft to the 26th. Time is negotiable (as is the date if it clearly can't work for people, but it will be around that date).

Keeper deadline 1 week before (19th). Keepers to be submitted to me on the Yahoo site or by PM.

Draft order will be randomly selected and announced once I have confirmation that all 10 teams are returning. Can't see there being any who drop out really, think we weeded out all the ones who weren't committed.

[Browning]

Regardless of draft position, I'll almost certainly keep Keenan Allen (thanks Baz) for a 4th :drool:

[Gray Fox]

I'd have an absolute belter of a keeper if I wasn't a fucking idiot last season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I need to look at my team but I'll probably keep Kamara.

[Browning]

Jesus, just checked that. I've been there, multiple times. I dropped both David Johnson and Freeman just before they broke out and missed out on keeping them for next to nothing (although at least with Johnson, I didn't draft him, so at least two of us made that same mistake. Freeman.... yea.... awful).

[Dan]

I’m really pleased with my decision to trade Davante Adams for Jarvis Landry :moop:

Sunday 26th should be fine for me too. Doing well with a random order, considering I’d been preparing to draft from 10 in my head.

[Browning]

I make that just Ian, Mert and Baz we haven’t heard from?

[Gray Fox]

Jesus, just checked that. I've been there, multiple times. I dropped both David Johnson and Freeman just before they broke out and missed out on keeping them for next to nothing (although at least with Johnson, I didn't draft him, so at least two of us made that same mistake. Freeman.... yea.... awful).

The worst part was I had a bunch of waivers stacked. Forgot to order them thinking I'd do it later. Managed to log in about 10 minutes too late to change them around.

[Baz]

I make that just Ian, Mert and Baz we haven’t heard from?I’ll play.

Everyone else decide on the date because it’s unlikely I can make it regardless of date and time, sadly.

[Browning]

Mert hasn't been on the forum for around 7 months, so if we don't hear from him soonish, we may need to replace him.

I don't have any concerns about Ian renewing, so with 9/10 confirmed, I run the randomizer for draft position. I always like to do that early to allow for mock drafts and more informed keeper decisions (particularly for those considering round 1-2 keepers).

Here is the draft order for 2018:

1) Rich (AKA Fay's Fall Guys)
2) Baz
3) Me
4) Mahow
5) Ian
6) Mert (Or replacement)
7) Dan
8) Pleb
9) Gray Fox
10) Sam

Remember it's a snake draft, so the order is reversed for round 2.

Edit- Also made the decision that increasing to 12 would fuck everything up too much, so we'll stick at 10, replacing Mert if necessary.

[Dan]

Yeah, I'd imagine Mert will need to be replaced. Who's doing Cry Me A Rivers?

[Browning]

I’ll stick with Sam (same guy as last year) unless we get more TTH interest. Mert will be the first to be replaced though.

[Baz]

Get bruhnaldo back involved.

[Browning]

After last year? Doubtful.

There was that one other guy who wanted to play though. Forget who it was.

[Dan]

Limoutsonik I believe.

[Browning]

That’s the one. I’m happy to give him two keepers from the roster he takes over as well.

[Gray Fox]

I was about to come in and discuss strategy for picking from 9th in my work league. We wont have keepers in that one though and it's standard scoring so I don't see why not.

I reckon my keeper(s) will be pretty obvious.

[Browning]

Is your work league still batshit crazy? I imagine the strategy of drafting 9th and then 12th varies greatly from the strategy of drafting 9th and then 37th.

[Gray Fox]

Is your work league still batshit crazy? I imagine the strategy of drafting 9th and then 12th varies greatly from the strategy of drafting 9th and then 37th.

No. The old commissioner is ousted fully, along with his stupid draft style and position limits.

I'm 9th in a proper snake draft.

[Browning]

So now the only thing to worry about is Pleb style curve balls, like someone drafting Ted Ginn at 6.

[Gray Fox]

So now the only thing to worry about is Pleb style curve balls, like someone drafting Ted Ginn at 6.

We have two new guys picking at #4 and #8 and they are complete unknowns so they could. The girl at #7(Big Dolphins fan) took Ajayi in R1 last season. Any of those could go with something unexpected.

[Dan]

We have two new guys picking at #4 and #8 and they are complete unknowns so they could. The girl at #7(Big Dolphins fan) took Ajayi in R1 last season. Any of those could go with something unexpected.

Was this you Ian?

[Ian]

No I'm only this league and one with my brother-in-law.

Unless I've missed something there.

[Baz]

Who can’t I keep?

[Browning]

Player
Tom Brady (NE - QB) Round 1, Pick 2 2 44
Adam Thielen (Min - WR) Round 11, Pick 2 73 25
Zay Jones (Buf - WR) Q Round 6, Pick 9 294 243
Theo Riddick (Det - RB) Round 12, Pick 9 152 112
Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE) Round 2, Pick 9 62 21
Jerick McKinnon (SF - RB) Round 18, Pick 9 106 27
Jeremy Maclin (Bal - WR) NA Round 9, Pick 8 246 284
Corey Davis (Ten - WR) Round 9, Pick 2 333 69
Matt Ryan (Atl - QB) Round 5, Pick 2 16 106
Odell Beckham Jr. (NYG - WR) Q Round 1, Pick 5 280 8
Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) Round 7, Pick 2 45 160
Matt Bryant (Atl - K) Round 13, Pick 2 56 173
Los Angeles (LAR - DEF) Round 16, Pick 9 46 139
Seattle (Sea - DEF) Round 8, Pick 9 86 17

Those are your options Baz, along with round cost (ignore the other numbers after the round).

Also note that picking 2 keepers from the same round costs you a round earlier, so you won't be able to keep both Brady and Beckham (but you could keep either 1 of them in the 1st round if you wanted to).

[Browning]

Couple of minor scoring changes:

0.5 PPR added.
Fumbles were somehow set at -2 for lost but nothing if the ball wasn't lost, which I've never been a fan of. Changed to -1 for the fumble and -1 again for losing it.

[Ian]

Also I didn't realise chat about our league was happening, sorry. I was waiting for a new thread and all the stuff you guys have been talking about basically since the Super Bowl is just a level of fantasy football interest I don't have so that's why I missed it.

What do I need to do/say/confirm?

[Browning]

I accidentally renewed everyone, so people didn't need to confirm, other than on here. I assumed you'd be back though, Mert is the only question mark.

Keeper deadline is on the 19th (draft order is above). Select your 2 keepers via Yahoo or via this thread/PM to me. That's all for now.

Also note it's a 0.5 PPR now.

[Dan]

No I'm only this league and one with my brother-in-law.

Unless I've missed something there.

Was it you that drafted Ajayi in the first round of our draft last year?

[Ian]

Ohhh, sorry. Maybe? I definitely had him so I guess it would have been pretty early. Probably me.

I guess I'll wait a couple of weeks to confirm my keepers.

[Browning]

My 2 keepers probably pick themselves, albeit I could easily live without the 2nd one. Only one really solid option, and he was drafted by Baz.

[Baz]

I'm good aren't I.

I honestly don't know who to keep. Not wasting second overall pick on Brady or ODB. :thbdn:

[Browning]

Neither would I, but two of those names stand out to me as fairly big bargains.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hopkins for a fourth and Kamara for a 16th right?

Fucking tasty.

[Pleb]

I'm good aren't I.

I honestly don't know who to keep. Not wasting second overall pick on Brady or ODB. :thbdn:
You know you'll like to keep Gronk :nod:

[Dan]

Hopkins for a fourth and Kamara for a 16th right?

Fucking tasty.

I definitely think you’re the preseason favourite- those two keepers are disgusting. I’m waiting on your reclaiming Thomas & Evans as well.

[Browning]

Is there going to be anymore on this McCoy story? If not, Ivory can fuck off when free agency open again in my league.

[Dan]

He'll no doubt get suspended regardless of whether he's actually charged or not, but you've got to imagine the Bills get someone in to play - Orleans Darkwa is still out there, as is Eddie Lacy if he's still playing, Thomas Rawls & Christine Michael are probably going to get cut (:vomit:), and I'd put them as a potential trade candidate for Ameer Abdullah, Jeremy Hill or one of the young guys in Oakland.

Obviously that's a list that hardly inspires confidence but I'd be interested in Abdullah at least, and Darkwa would probably do to split with Ivory if it came to it.

[Gray Fox]

Zeke got suspended without the police charging him with it, but this one is slightly different. If you believe what the woman has said, Shady hired someone to beat her up and rob her. I don't expect this to be settled until next season to be fair.

[Browning]

I had Abdullah but I traded him for Devante Adams... can't say I regret it even if he becomes a featured back in Buffalo.

If I were to cut Ivory on Tuesday I'd probably be looking at adding Booker or Carson, both of which are currently being tipped as starters, unless they are waiver claimed by the Freeman/Penny owners.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pickup Kenneth Dixon.

It's finally going to be his year.

[Browning]

I actually drafted Dixon in this league, but much like Kevin White, I couldn't hold him when I got multiple injuries.

He's 3rd on the depth chart though...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There's no such thing as a depth chart at this stage but that probably is right.

Collins deserves to have the first crack at being the lead back and Buck Allen is our receiving type guy.

If Collins gets injured though, it would be Dixon taking the lead as Buck can't do that role.

[Dan]

I look forward to someone taking Dixon early just to annoy Mahow.

[Limoutsonik]

Sorry guys,i did say i was interested but unfortunately i cannot commit plus i don't know anything about the keeper format so i would suck immensely. Thank you for thinking of me though.

[Browning]

Well, that sucks.

Any other ideas for a replacement anyone?

[bruhnaldo]

Get bruhnaldo back involved.

lol imagine

edit: but i mean if u really need one i'll play why not

[Browning]

Giggles and Foe have the most posts in the NFL thread, other than those of us already in the league.

Would either of you be interested in joining?

[Dan]

Make it a community team - autodraft the roster then everyone except the team they’re playing votes on who to start that week.

I can see no possible way that would turn into a clusterfuck.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Giggles would rather kick a pregnant dog.

[Browning]

I did get the feeling Giggles had declined before, but I couldn't see the post. If he has, then fair enough.

[Dan]

Someone just took Jesse James in R7 of a mock I’m doing :cab:

[Pleb]

Where did Dixon go? :baz:

[Dan]

He didn't.

[Browning]

Lee Dixon has more chance of being drafted.

[Giggles]

Not for me thanks. Can never keep it going beyond a couple of weeks.

If there's a weekly predictions thing then give me a shout though.

[Baz]

I’m really not a fan of having keepers.

[Browning]

If I were to cut Ivory on Tuesday I'd probably be looking at adding Booker or Carson, both of which are currently being tipped as starters, unless they are waiver claimed by the Freeman/Penny owners.

Any thoughts on whether I should do this, or stick with Ivory? No claims went through today so Free Agency is open.

[Gray Fox]

I personally think no action will be taken this season, but carry over to next. I'd pick up Booker if it were me.

[Browning]

I started to agree with that, so I cut him, but I grabbed Carson. I think he looked better than Booker when he had his chances last year. I'm not convinced though. I would like to add both, but don't have anyone else to drop.

[Gray Fox]

Been doing some more drafting in anticipation of my work draft next week. As there's no keepers or PPR I'll share for discussions sake. I pick at #9 and I know a fair bit about some of the other picks that will be made.

1. Gurley(He has announced this pretty much as no one can stop him anyway)
2. Zeke(has also stated he prefers Zeke due to Bell potentially holding out)
3. Bell
4. ???(this guy is new and I've no idea how much he knows. I'll pencil David Johnson if he does homework)
5. Barkley/Beckham(Giants fan who wants a Giants star. He'll take either one that's here)
6. Brown
7. Hopkins(She picked Ajayi R1 last year, but I'll say she's learned her lesson here)
8. ???(new guy again. I have Kamara pencilled in here as I know he is at least slightly knowledgeable)
9. Me
10. Big Fournette Fan

Best case scenario here, I'm looking at Hopkins falling to me through stupidity. But on average I'm looking at something along the lines of Hunt/Gordon/Fournette as an RB1, with Julio being there as a R1 candidate.

I do know though that should I not take Fournette here he will go the next pick. This is a 3 WR starting league, but even so I have 2 options. I can go:

RB-RB. If I did this, I would come out with a very strong starting RB corps, but my WR1 if the draft goes normally would be looking like Thielen or Hilton. Not horrific as such. But the WR corps suffers slightly.

WR-RB. I'm assuming here that should I choose a WR, the guy at #10 takes Fournette. I also think he'll split and take a WR straight after. Therefore I could still get my choice of RB back again. I could swap and go RB first, but then he'd likely get a better WR out of it.

I think WR-WR would leave me too weak at RB in R3.

[Dan]

I think you've got to take at least one RB in the first two rounds, and picking at the back end of a 10 team draft seems pretty good this year as there always seems to be an elite WR/RB at the end of R1 for you to grab, and a very good RB/WR that will make it back to you in the second, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just take the best guy who falls to you & go from there.

I would say, though, that I'm definitely in agreement that you need at least one RB in the first couple of picks since they're all vanishing at an absurd rate this year. I've seen a decent number of people saying the top ten picks should be Brown & 9 RBs, with Brown slotting in around 7 or 8 after the big four, Kamara & Saquon/other favourite :cab:

[Browning]

Grab Fournette and then trade him for the 2 guys that number 10 took (assuming they're not Danny Amendola and Charles Clay).

[Pleb]

Isn't Barkley stupidly high for a rookie?

Are we anticipating another Kareem Hunt style season for him?

[Gray Fox]

I would say, though, that I'm definitely in agreement that you need at least one RB in the first couple of picks since they're all vanishing at an absurd rate this year. I've seen a decent number of people saying the top ten picks should be Brown & 9 RBs, with Brown slotting in around 7 or 8 after the big four, Kamara & Saquon/other favourite :cab:

This is the main thing on my mind. The amount of reliable RB options seems to have declined slightly. Add that to the monstrosity of what Gurley did in Fantasy Play-offs last season contributes to people going RB mad. 2 years ago almost all drafts started with Brown at #1, so people split between RB and WR quite well. Now it's as you say. 9 to 1 or maybe 8 to 2 if Hopkins/Julio sneaks in there.

It's making me consider the double RB a whole lot more than I usually would.


Isn't Barkley stupidly high for a rookie?

Are we anticipating another Kareem Hunt style season for him?

He's a generational talent, combined with NY having 0 run game for years now, he has the talent and opportunity. Whether he has the o-line is another story, but he is good enough to make it work either way.

The Giants will absolutely love to hand him the rock 20-25 times a game. He gets a chance to shine and players like Beckham jr. and Engram become a bit more open. The whole offence should improve drastically.

[Browning]

The only problem with stacking up on RBs early is there are so many viable ones this year. A lot of the mocks I've done I've found myself taking my RB5 before my WR3 or whatever because they are considerably better options than whatever WR is left. I wouldn't be inclined to go RB/RB in your draft position, unless 2 absolute studs fell. Even then, there will be plenty of WR studs left and I doubt I'd pass on one.

Ultimately think you have to plan to go RB/WR or WR/RB. If you think the guy at 10 is sold on Fournette and Fournette isn't the best RB left when it comes to you, take a WR, let him take Fournette, and get your RB on the way back.

[Dan]

I think WR is loaded in the later rounds this year. Fuckloads of QBs too, so even I might actually end up with an alright one this year!

Not sure I’m convinced Saquon is going to live up to the hype. He’s amazing, but everyone’s assuming he’s going to run for 85000 yards behind a shit O-Line on a pass first team when he’s known for being an average between the tackles runner who can dance about & lose five yards a handful of times a game. He’s not getting 100 targets either in that offence, so the fact people are drafting him at #5 overall is insane to me.

[Gray Fox]

I think WR is loaded in the later rounds this year. Fuckloads of QBs too, so even I might actually end up with an alright one this year!

This was what was leaning me towards RB-RB. A hell of a lot of depth for your WR 2/3 this time around.

[Browning]

According to FP, the top 100 players contains 41 WRs and 39 RBs in standard scoring. When you factor in the fact that most leagues require you to start more WRs than RBs it is a complete myth that the position is deeper than RB this year.

In PPR is improves to 44 WRs and 36 RBs, but even that makes RBs plentiful if you only need to start 2.

[Dan]

That's only the top 100 though - there are probably another 20 further down who have potential to be a WR2/3, whereas with RBs once you get outside the main group it's just second guys in committees & guys who need an injury to have any value. And Isaiah Crowell.

[Browning]

No one is drafting starters after round 10.

[Dan]

Where did Alvin Kamara & Adam Thielen get drafted last year?

[Browning]

They weren’t drafted as starters, let’s not pretend they were.

Point is if you’re going into round 11-12 looking for your WR2 you’re doing it wrong.

[Baz]

They weren’t drafted as starters, let’s not pretend they were.

Point is if you’re going into round 11-12 looking for your WR2 you’re doing it wrong.Sure but you’d have two good defences and kickers.

[Dan]

No, but they finished as starters. Anyway, the point is there are far more WRs available outside the top 100 who could turn out to be WR3s with WR2 upside than there are RBs who could do the same.

I’d rather stack up on the valuable RBs & take 3-4 shots at finding a good receiver late than take mostly WRs & have to scramble for the three decent backup running backs that are left over.

In the end though, nobody knows & we’ll probably end up dumping half the late rounders for waiver wire guys by week 4 anyway so it’s probably not worth thinking about too hard :D

[Baz]

Still no ideas for a tenth player? I’d be happy to give Bruh another shot, so long as he promises not to tantrum off again.

Also if everyone could [honestly] declare their keepers now that’s be great ta. :flirt: Thielen (11) & McKinnon (18) for me.

[Dan]

You can pretty much figure out most of the keepers just by looking at the rosters, but there’s no way anyone’s locking in until the last possible minute given the chance for injury in preseason.

[Browning]

To be fair I would allow people to change up until the deadline so it doesn’t hurt to lock them in, but either way is fine. Mine basically picked themselves.

[Dan]

I’d imagine you can work out mine, but I’m not completely locked in on either so it’ll depend on how things play out during preseason as to whether someone else sneaks in.

[Gray Fox]

Pencil in Zeke and Stafford for me.

[Baz]

You can pretty much figure out most of the keepers just by looking at the rosters, but there’s no way anyone’s locking in until the last possible minute given the chance for injury in preseason.Youre mistaking me for someone who knows about NFL. :baz:

The request was only made in jest, really. Hope I can attend the draft, it’s always fun.

[Browning]

Plugged in the first few keepers. As I say, changes can be made up until the deadline.

The 10th team is still an issue. Having a community team could actually happen at this rate.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seems there are 3 options

1. Trust Bruh
2. Community team
3. Advertise on Reddit.

[Baz]

Whose team was it?

[Gray Fox]

Mert.

[Dan]

If we have a community team I hope that Pleb gets the deciding vote in any ties.

[Browning]

Ties will probably be decided by Yahoo rankings or something. I would have gone with Pleb before he showed himself to be a fantasy genius on a level far above the rest of us. Wentz for Newton, for fuck sake.

[Baz]

Nah community team sucks cos they’ll just take whoever’s top of the pile (like when Bruh didn’t attend the draft) killing all hopes of “hopefully X is still available when it comes back round to me” and end up with an ace team.

[Browning]

That's going to be a problem unless all 10 of us turn up though, which is unlikely.

[Dan]

Can we stop talking as though my joke suggestion is the best possible option? :D

[Baz]

That's going to be a problem unless all 10 of us turn up though, which is unlikely.Yeah but those absent will hopefully re-jig their selections beforehand.

[Browning]

This is true. The main problem with Autodraft teams is they select Kickers and DSTs way too early.

They really should have sorted it so you can tell the autodraft what order to take positions in as well as players by this stage.

[Browning]

Fantasy Pros removing the option to edit picks in a Mock is really fucking annoying. It stops me from simulating what I think will happen in my leagues.

In my main league I have pick 5 (out of 8) but I had Gurley locked in as my 3rd round keeper. I'm almost certain Zeke (round 3) and Johnson (Round 1, pick 8) will also be keepers so that's 3 of the elite RBs gone. I can only assume Bell goes pick 1. I think from there my nightmare scenario would be the other 3 taking Brown, Beckham and Hopkins. If any of those 3 fall I'll take them, but if they all go... it'll be a coin flip between Aaron Rodgers and Alvin Kamara (it's a 2QB, so Rodgers always goes in round 1).

That said, one of the 4 drafting before me has gone QB/QB in each of the last 2 seasons, so him taking Rodgers seems almost nailed on.

[Gray Fox]

Fantasy Pros removing the option to edit picks in a Mock is really fucking annoying. It stops me from simulating what I think will happen in my leagues.

I just came on here to complain about this. They've slowly moved features behind the paywall all off-season.

You can use SleeperBot. You can mock on that, invite friends into the mock lobby and you can edit the picks too. All for free.

Here's an example:

https://i.gyazo.com/9d71663ac7a27148e36d67f039e6be80.png

[Baz]

Cheers to the boys who have put their keepers in.

[Baz]

Would you lot want Mert back? If so, maybe Spoonsky could do us a favour and message him on Facebook. :sorry:

[Browning]

Mert would be fine, it’s his team.

[Baz]

I feel like I'm taking this far too seriously.