TTH NFL Fantasy Football 2017 thread

[Browning]

There's no such thing as too seriously in Fantasy Football.

[thommo]

Must admit, I've never done NFL fantasy football, but I'd be willing to join in if you guys needed an extra team for the league.

[Browning]

We do as it stands.

If you want to join then PM me with your email address. You'll have to sign up to Yahoo Fantasy Football if you haven't already.

If you do take over the team, you'll have to pick 1-2 keepers before the draft happens. If you have any questions, people in this thread will be able to help.

[Browning]

There, Thommo has taken over Team 10. Feel free to change the weird team name.

We should be good to go now.

[Baz]

Who’s your favourite team, Thommo? Any favourite players? :rosebud:

[Pleb]

Has anyone warned thommo about my drafting skills yet? :baz:

[Gray Fox]

I hope he didn't want to draft any Chiefs.

[Dan]

Do we know anything about Sam's drafting skill? He only took over in mid-season so he's not drafted with us yet either.

[Browning]

I was in one other league with him (albeit I was on autodraft because it clashed with another) where he took:

1. (4) Le'Veon Bell
(Pit - RB)
2. (13) Jordy Nelson
(Oak - WR)
3. (20) Rob Gronkowski
(NE - TE)
4. (29) Drew Brees
(NO - QB)
5. (36) Tyreek Hill
(KC - WR)
6. (45) C.J. Anderson
(Car - RB)
7. (52) Russell Wilson
(Sea - QB)
8. (61) Jamison Crowder
(Was - WR)
9. (68) Mark Ingram
(NO - RB)
10. (77) Chris Hogan
(NE - WR)
11. (84) Matt Bryant
(Atl - K)
12. (93) Arizona
(Ari - DEF)
13. (100) Martellus Bennett
(NE - TE)
14. (109) Matthew Stafford
(Det - QB)
15. (116) James White
(NE - RB)
16. (125) Ted Ginn Jr.
(NO - WR)
17. (132) Jonathan Stewart
(NYG - RB)
18. (141) Adam Thielen
(Min - WR)

[Baz]

Round 4 QB :harold:

[Dan]

Three QBs in an 8 team league seems a bit much, or was it a superflex/2QB league?

[thommo]

Who’s your favourite team, Thommo? Any favourite players? :rosebud:

I'm a Steelers fan, fairly boring team to follow I know. Also got a soft spot for the Jaguars due to the Khan connection with Fulham.


Has anyone warned thommo about my drafting skills yet? :baz:

I've been reading the opening few pages of the thread so I'm slowly getting the idea....

[Browning]

From memory it was only a 1 QB league so yea he probably overdid it.

[Gray Fox]

I've got my draft Sunday. Definitely happening this time. The guy who picks at #8 has handed me his personal rankings and instructions as he wont be able to make it. It makes my pick a whole lot clearer.

His instructions are to take one of his top 5 RBs(Bell, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara and Barkley), if none of those are to be there, I'm to take one of his top 4 WRs(Brown, Hopkins, Beckham, Julio).

I know at least half of the league have been mock drafting, so I'll give them credit and say Brown and those RBs will be gone(As will Johnson, who is his #8 for some reason) so he'll likely be taking Hopkins at 8.

That leaves me looking at Beckham or Melvin Gordon. Should one of the previous 8 be there still I'll have them, but given I know for a fact Fournette will go pick #10, I can likely assume he'll split and take himself a WR. So should I also split, I'd be looking at Melvin Gordon and Julio/Beckham.

My other option is still RB-RB. I'd likely end up with Gordon and Hunt/Cook. If I'm lucky, from there I could still grab a Mike Evans as my top WR. This is my personal preference, but it is the one with most risk. If one or two WRs more go than I think I could be a bit screwed.

Splitting would leave me looking at Guice, Collins or Drake as my 2nd RB and looking at the drop off at RB after that I reckon it would have to be a RB in R3.

[Browning]

I reckon you could still get someone like Freeman or McKinnon as your RB2. In most of my mocks I end up with one of those in round 4-5. Granted we are a two QB league so that does change things somewhat. Personally after last year I would not be happy with Evans as my WR1.

[Gray Fox]

From the mocks I've done, it seems Freeman and McKinnon are late 2nd, early 3rd, in a 1 QB standard. The guy who gave me his list also wants me to take Freeman in the 2nd so he wont be there.

This year has gone very RB heavy in the early rounds it seems. I was hoping Shady would cast enough doubt over himself to get him to drop down, but that doesn't seem to have happened.

[Browning]

I appreciate Yahoo trying to do dynasty draft reports, but the fact they clearly base them on 2018 ADP (albeit adjusted to remove all the keepers from your league) makes them laughable. Supposedly Ridley was a reach at 16 because he was the 25th best player in the draft.... but Crowell was an absolute steal at 41 because he was the 14th best. Granted, I was happy to get Crowell for pretty much free, but come on....

[Gray Fox]

Our draft is in the books. Having to draft for 2 people is stressful, but got through it okay. I've ended up with the following:

QB - Stafford
RB - Gordon, Howard, Henry, Mack, Burkhead
WR - Hopkins, Thielen, Marvin Jones, Hogan, Cobb, Crowder
TE - OJ Howard
K - Crosby
D/ST - Eagles

The main surprise from the draft was the amount of tight ends that went. Multiple people went with 3 tight ends. I expected to be left with better than OJ Howard, but it's not the end of the world.

I've already been offered Ertz for Burkhead and Hogan, so that's a potential option to fix things. There still a few serviceable RB and WR on the wire too.

[Browning]

Take that and never look back. The Patriots backfield is something you want no part of, and Ertz is much better than Hogan, especially given your other options.

[Gray Fox]

I have tried, but he's gone off to work now so I'm yet to hear back.

Aaron Jones went undrafted, so I'd be happy to pick him up and stash. Whichever WR I pick up will likely be my WR5 or 6, so there's plenty of options if I go there too.

[Browning]

Looks like you went Hopkins in 1 and still got Gordon and Howard? Either RB is deeper than advertised, or people drafted like morons.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's his work league...

They're mouth breathing mongs.

[Gray Fox]

R1 went as follows:

Gurley, Zeke, Johnson, Bell, Brown, Barkley, Hunt, Kamara, Hopkins and Fournette.

I was sure Hopkins was gone at 6 or 7. Hunt going there was a massive boost and made the pick a formality. I knew the guy behind would pick Fournette and follow up with a WR. The big surprise was that he took Brandin fucking Cooks with his other pick. Beckham was still on the board. With 20-20 hindsight I could have taken Beckham here and been fine.

I took Gordon instead with fears of a big RB run happening in my wait.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Brandon Cooks in the second? Fucking hell.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah, Cooks was the 3rd WR off the board. Beckham, Allen and Jones still there. Cooks was my WR22 in my rankings, so fuck knows.

[Browning]

That first round isn't too bad I guess, but taking Cooks over Beckham should see someone thrown out.

[Gray Fox]

I'll try and stick up the full results when the commissioner has put them up. There was definitely an improvement with some of the guys drafting, whilst others just flat out failed.

The guy who got Cooks is the one offering me Ertz for example. He ended up only drafting 3 wide receivers in a league where we need to start 3 every week. He also took 3 tight ends for some reason.

[Browning]

Why would you reach for Ertz and then trade him for Hogan and Burkhead? Madness.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He should be committed.

I've just found out I have two drafts on the second of September.

[Dan]

Frankly I'm amazed they managed to hold it together long enough for the first round to look pretty normal - would've expected someone to take the Jags DST or something.

[Gray Fox]

I think the Jags D went in round 7 or 8 or so. Tough to tell as after about round 3 they turned the volume right up in the bar for the City v Chelsea game. Had I been only drafting for myself I'd have taken everyones picks down.

We used to have a Ravens fan in the league who would take Tucker in R1 every time and defences used to go in the first 5 rounds easily. So this year has been a vast improvement, bar a few obvious exceptions.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sounds like a smart man.

[Gray Fox]

Our league just went up and I've banged that trade offer in after radio silence. Rejected. Looks like he may have had a better offer elsewhere.

[Browning]

I'm strongly considering starting a 12 man dynasty league. The more I read about the format, the more people seem to be suggesting it just doesn't work with 8 (which is what I have) and 10 isn't great either. With 12 (or more) it seems like you genuinely get teams who have to rebuild for years to compete, reliance on obscurer players and it makes the rookie draft vital. I've been thinking about doing it next offseason, but if the interest was there... maybe I could start it this year. I reckon I could get 6-7 from my current league (without inviting a certain someone...) and maybe 1-2 from other sources. Would any of our TTH players have any interest in joining a dynasty start up? I know you all just joined Dan's one, so maybe I left it too late, but I'd be interested in getting it going either this year or next if I could find people.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd be up for it.

Dan's one isn't running is it? There was talk but I don't think he made it.

[Browning]

Oh I thought that was the one you all adopted teams for and drafted a while back?

[Pleb]

I'm up for a fresh dynasty league :chief:

[Dan]

I'd be up for it.

Dan's one isn't running is it? There was talk but I don't think he made it.

You’re literally in the league you plank :D

I’d go for another dynasty league though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh shit yeah, the fleaflicker one.

Fucking hell.

I'd still be in.

[Browning]

I may well send out some invites later tonight, but it’ll only go ahead if we get to 12. Probably looking to draft fairly soon, maybe the weekend before TTH as I have a lot of other drafts over that weekend and the one after.

[Browning]

Invites sent to Mahow and Pleb. Dan, your email address appears to be private on Yahoo, so could you PM it to me?

Edit- I haven't touched any of the settings yet, so don't read anything into them.

[Pleb]

Done :drool:

Will it be roughly full PPR?

[Browning]

Yes. My other league has a weird scoring system, but that's because most of the players are from a league where that was the established system. This one will be fairly standard with a full PPR. The main thing I will be changing is the roster sizes.

[thommo]

I would be interested in the dynasty league, judging from what I've read about it on here. Of course, happy to let more of a veteran take my spot if you guys think it's a bit too advanced for a newcomer to the fantasy NFL stage. Is there any major difference, other than the retention of players, than I'm missing between the two types of league?

[Browning]

The main differences, from my (limited) experience are:

1) Player values are fairly different. For example, in redraft leagues, Antonio Brown is the consensus WR1, but he's not in Dynasty because of his age. General rule of thumb is younger players with proven production are the most valuable players. Brown is obviously still a top asset, and probably a Round 1 guy, but he likely isn't the top WR.

2) Rosters are much bigger, and you tend to have to take more chances on players you don't know much about and hope they pan out.

3) Draft picks can be traded for Players (from the second draft onward, not the initial draft).

4) It's a year round commitment (although activity in my league was pretty much dead after the Super Bowl until the NFL draft happened, I don't know how normal that is. The season is longer though for sure).

If you're still interested, then I'm happy to give you a shot.

[thommo]

Well I'm pretty involved with NFL in general so I'd like to imagine I'll be committing to it. If that's ok with you, I'd like to give it a go.

Just got to make sure I don't make any big draft mistakes now...

[Browning]

May actually have filled the league already (including spaces for Dan/Thommo) unless one of 2 people I've not heard back from let me down. Even if they do, it can't be that hard to find 1 or 2 more. Invites going out to Dan/Thommo now.

[Baz]

Don't you lot be losing interest in the proper league now you've got your fancy longterm investment dynasty league to play.

(My mate would probably join if you need a 12th man.)

[Browning]

Well, now that this looks like happening, may as well iron out a few details, so anyone who has any input let me know:

1) Draft date/time. As I've said, the 2 weekends following where it is are already busy with drafts for me, so I'm hopeful that where it is will work, but any major objections let me know.

2) Roster sizes. I do want them to be quite big, because that's the nature of Dynasty. You need to be able to hold players you're waiting to develop, and you shouldn't be able to just grab a stud off Free Agency. Most sites I've seen suggest 24-26 man rosters even for a 12 teamer. My 8 teamer has 26 and it feels ok, but obviously, 12 is 50% more players coming off the board. Any ideas on that?

3) A major talking point in my existing one is the trading of future draft picks. Yahoo does not allow trades that include an uneven amount of picks. For example, you can't trade Player X for a 1st round pick half way through the season, it just doesn't allow it. You could trade Player X and a 10th rounder for a 1st though, but this causes other issues when it comes to keepers. So far, we haven't seen a trade involving future picks, the only picks we've seen traded are after the keeper deadline when everyone knew what picks they had available. Once the keepers are locked in, it's easy to trade a player for a 1st straight up. I wouldn't object to a rule where you can only trade draft picks after your keepers are selected, and only for the upcoming draft. If we want to be able to trade them mid-season... then more discussion around how to do it will have to happen I guess.

[Dan]

Draft time should be fine for me - I'm busy 11th & 17th but otherwise shouldn't have anything planned I can't move.

I'd say 25 seems about right for a 12 teamer - that'd be the same as my Fleaflicker one which is 10 teams, 30 roster spots (plus 2 extra IR spots), and that's about right, although for reference the best names on the waiver wire include Elijah McGuire, Tyler Kroft, Austin Hooper, Eric Decker & Josh McCown, so it depends how you want to balance the waiver talent with being able to hold players at the bottom of your roster.

Never used Discord but I guess it could be useful for reaching the people who aren't on here.

[Browning]

I reconsidered if it would be useful as the people who aren't on here are in my other group for my other league, so it's pretty easy for me to contact everyone using the forum/existing Discord. But if people want one, I can make it.

How do you handle the issue with trading draft picks? From memory I think your league has a limit on number of keepers? In my existing one, we don't, which I like in one way (if you build a super roster, and smash the league you shouldn't be forced to dismantle it for the 8th, or in this case 12th best rookie) but on the other hand does make trading future draft picks next to impossible because you don't know what picks you will have.

[Dan]

Mine's on Fleaflicker & while I've not seen it in action, I think you can trade for a pick whenever. I think it basically just gives you the highest x number of picks to match the number of empty roster spots you have, so if you trade a player for a first you'd end up with two firsts but lose your last pick when it came to the draft.

In terms of keeping players, I think you should be able to keep the majority of your roster, but having to cut a small number each year helps keep the league balanced & adds a bit of extra strategy to team building - if you have a 25 player roster I'd say 18-20 keepers would be fair.

[Pleb]

I'm fine with a Sunday August draft date. 15-20 keepers seems reasonable (I recommend 20 if you want to have a 25-30 man roster but what do I know).

[Gray Fox]

Seems I missed a party! I was about to start posting my work league draft for full bantz purposes(you can lol at when I took Burkhead), but the commish has wiped everyones teams in order to fix the roster settings.

[Browning]

If it was 25, I might consider doing 20-22 keepers, but I'm not sure I like the idea of forcing people to cut 5 people and have 5 draft picks. That said, in my league where we have 26 man rosters and can keep all 26, I kept 24, and quickly regretted not keeping less than that once I saw how the draft unfolded (well actually no, I regretted not keeping Sanu and trading him for a 1st). Given how strong my team is there, I do think it would be incredibly unlikely anyone in a 12 team league is going to build a team where they want to keep everyone. Maybe 20 could be workable.

I probably wouldn't allow trading future picks that aren't in the first 5 rounds if that was the case though. I've never liked the idea of trading say a 10th rounder. The problem with it is if I trade for say Dan's 10th round pick, I could just chuck 2 keepers into round 10 when one of them would have cost say my 5th rounder normally, and thus gain a 5th rounder. It just seems to break the league. So if we end up going with 25 man rosters and 20 keepers, I'd only allow those 5 rounds to be traded until after the keeper deadline (at which point if you have a 6th/7th/8th/whatever pick, feel free to trade it if you can).

Edit- Yea, I was expecting you would join GF. If one of the 2 I'm not sure about let's me down, you can have the space if you want it.

[Gray Fox]

Let me know :thbup:

[Browning]

Set up some of the settings. Not sure about IR after seeing Dan only allows 2. We have 5 in my other league. I've set it at 3 for now.

Also moved the draft up to 9pm but it may have to move back if people complain. I'm more worried about the non-TTH people because I think most of them are American and thus it's probably the middle of the day for them, but given it's a Sunday, hopefully it works. We could be there all night because I hate only have 1 minute to pick. I usually do 2 minutes, but for now I've set it to 1:30 just in case people draft slowly.

[Browning]

OK, I tried a mock with 20 picks and 12 teams and Adrian Peterson was selected :D

25 may be over shooting it slightly based on that.

[Dan]

I think that might just be a terrible computer pick :D

[Browning]

Yea, maybe. I guess the other factor is that the CPUs only drafted 1 Kicker and 1 DST, so if people take more than 1, that'll free up more players.

I'll do a bit more research to make sure, but the lean right now would be 25 roster spots and 20 keepers.

We officially have a league though, because one of the 2 I was unsure about has confirmed his interest. If the other one (Sam from TTH) declines, then GF can take the 12th spot. If not I'll have him as first reserve if anyone drops out.

[Pleb]

Seems I missed a party! I was about to start posting my work league draft for full bantz purposes(you can lol at when I took Burkhead), but the commish has wiped everyones teams in order to fix the roster settings.
Show and tell :sherlock:

[Gray Fox]

Show and tell :sherlock:

I'll get on this in a little bit. Lots of images to go get.

[Browning]

I think there is a space going in the league after all because it appears one of the outstanding invites is to Mahow who is already in the league. I’ll have to confirm that later but if so do you want to join Gray Fox

[Gray Fox]

Count me in if you need the space filled.

[Gray Fox]

Work League Draft(be warned, many images)



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Closing thoughts from this are that I only really regret 3 things. I regret taking Burkhead in R8. This links into the second thing in that I should have taken a TE here. There was good value to be had really, but I didn't see people taking a 2nd and even 3rd TE. That's what left me with OJ Howard, who still would be okay.

Lastly I wish I had the balls to have taken Beckham on the way back in the 2nd.

I think I have the best WR corps, with a solid, but not amazing group of RBs. It seemed the best spot to pick from was about #6. If Barkley works out for him he has the best team.

I'm trying to sound out trade partners for Burkhead/Hogan. The likes of Booker, all Packers RBs and Ekeler(handcuff) are still there for a pick up, a few high upside guys on the WR side too. If I can get a TE even if it's 2 for 1, I don't mind.

[Dan]

That's so much less horrible than last year.

[Browning]

I'm tempted to do our Dynasty draft in 2 stages, one online and then finish it offline. I'm just not sure I want to be there at 3am decided which RB ranked outside the top 200 players I want to add to my team. The offline draft worked really well for my other league where we got through 40 odd picks (with a time limit of 12 hours per pick) in less than 2 days. I may do something like 15 rounds online and 10 offline, or maybe slightly more online (18 to 7, or whatever).

As for keepers, the more research I do, the more it seems that most Dynasty leagues do allow 100% keeper retention if you want to do it. What some of them do is increase the roster size by 3-5 players before the rookie draft so everyone has 3-5 picks, and then they have to cut players before the season starts when the rosters get reduced again. I'm somewhat considering that rather than forcing people to cut players if they don't want to cut them, but again, open to ideas.

I can confirm that there was an outstanding invite to Mahow even though he joined. No idea why. I can't think of anyone else I've invited, so guess there is an open spot for GF.

Edit- I'll need you to PM me your email Gray Fox as again it's hidden on Yahoo.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've got to do my first offline draft for one of my dynasty leagues.

6 round rookie draft within a week but it doesn't start until the end of the month.

[Baz]

Ive wrote the TTH draft on the kitchen calendar. It’s official in my house. :cool:

[Gray Fox]

That's so much less horrible than last year.

The guys picking at 1,2,3 and 6 mock drafted heavily this year and they're greatly improved, though guy at #1 did make a few questionable calls. The guy at #10 had the worst draft though.

He took Luck in R5, picked Cooks over Beckham, then didn't take a 3rd WR in a 3 WR league until R10. He only drafted 4 and they apparently sent one to the guy who had Ertz for him in return. He only has Rawls and Doug Martin as his 2 backup RBs too. Nightmare.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pleb's cousin.

He picked the worst WR in round 2 and he had the first pick, lul.

[Browning]

I've been discussing position limits with one of the other members and now I'm thinking of imposing the following limits:

- No more than 2 Kickers or DSTs
- You can only have QBs from 3 NFL Franchises. This is obviously a rule you'll have to police yourselves as I can't set it up on Yahoo. This does mean you can have a young up and coming QB without wasting one of your 3 slots (so for example, you could have Flacco and Lamar Jackson and it would only count as 1). There are not enough QBs for everyone to have 3 starters and the problem with the fact you could have 2 and they could share a bye week needs to be limited. Obviously, that could still happen, but limiting it should help. At least this way people can't stash 5-6 just to screw someone over.

[Browning]

You know what, forget the league vote. To avoid any doubt, I'll just let Yahoo determine the draft order when we get there. Did originally ask if people wanted me to randomise one because someone requested it, but I'd rather just let it happen.

Looks like we've hit 12 though (once the last 2 I've invited tonight join up), so we should be good to go. So far, no one has objected to the draft time either.

[Gray Fox]

I'm just joining up now.

My work league has seen its only trade so far taken back(Amendola for Ertz). It went through but after the reset the guy receiving Ertz has refused to do the trade again. The guy who drafted 10th strikes again.

I have messaged the Ertz owner, who wants a WR in replacement. I do have a much better WR corps than him though and also being the defending champ 2x over has upped the price a little as this is the guy who lost both finals to me.
He wants Thielen(not happening) and mentioned he would also like Marvin Jones, so pretty much I'm looking at Jones for Ertz. I'd still have Cobb, Crowder and Hogan on the bench.
The waiver wire could also see me bring in Agholor, DeSean Jackson, Tyrell Williams, DJ Moore, John Ross, Rishard Matthews or Allen Hurns(Dak has to throw to someone right?).

I was leaning towards sending Jones for Ertz on the basis that I should have enough, via my own bench or waivers to replace the WR3, whilst bringing myself a TE1.

[Browning]

Yea, I would send Jones for Ertz. It's easy to find a WR3 later on if needed.

[Gray Fox]

I've seen the guy mention he also wants a better QB, so I've asked the question on Stafford. We had Mariota go undrafted and there's a few others I'd happily take there too.

I'd be much happier parting with him, but I'll send the Jones offer if he says no.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

To help me keep up with shit:

Yahoo Leagues:

TTH - Sunday 26th August 8pm
New Dynasty - Sunday 19th August 9pm
Money League - Sunday 2nd September 9pm

Fleaflicker:

Dan's Dynasty - DRAFTED

NFL:

Star Wars themed IDP - Sunday 2nd September 11pm
Mental Dynasty IDP - Saturday 25th August OFFLINE

I think (and hope) that's everything.

[Gray Fox]

So the one I've just joined drafts on the 19th August?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yes.

[Gray Fox]

Alrighty. I'm away then, but I'll try and find a way to get on it via phone or a laptop or something.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Don't show up, you'll be in prime position when you get Adrian Peterson on auto-draft.

[Gray Fox]

I sent the guy Jones for Ertz as mentioned and now he wants to not do it until after pre-season. The guy who has Olsen also is refusing to deal with me on the basis that he's new and I'm 2x Champ. So whoever I want must be worth keeping.

Seems like getting myself a better TE isn't likely to happen any time soon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just pick up Hayden Hurst and watch the points roll in.

[Dan]

You mean Benjamin Watson, right?

[Gray Fox]

Guice is dead. Torn ACL, done for season.

[Dan]

Wow, that sucks. Deon Cain gone too, which is obviously a lot less impactful for fantasy, and George Kittle will miss 'some time' with his injury.

I have one fantasy team where I'd drafted both Edelman & Ingram, and also have Guice, Kittle & Josh Gordon, so that one might be dead in the water already :D

[Gray Fox]

One of the guys in my work league with 3 TE had Olsen, Rudolph and Eifert. I asked his price therefore for Olsen given he had ample back up and he said straight swap Olsen for Hopkins(he's new to it). I burst out laughing in his face.

In any case he's now dropped Eifert for Ted Ginn(?). Given I'm #1 waiver priority, this could well solve the TE situation without having to trade.

[Dan]

I feel like that's an appropriate reaction - he'll learn from it. It basically the same as we did to Pleb.

[Gray Fox]

I was all aboard the Pleb train after I went out last year.

I remember we all looked at him funny for drafting Thielen in every team. Now look at him go.

[Dan]

Yeah, he did well with that one. Shame he didn't bother to back it up in our league & passed on him 10 times before Baz took him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Turns out I'm in another league too.

I finished second in the mental IDP league (which has about 12 versions or something) so I've qualified for the mental IDP Champions league :\


Roster Size: 36 (18 starters, 18 bench, 3 IR)
Offense (39): QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, DT, DE, DE, LB, LB, LB, LB, CB, CB, S, S, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, BE, IR, IR, IR

Stat Categories: 58
PC(0.1pt), PY(0), PTD(6), PTD40(2.5), PTD50(5), P300(2.5), P400(5), 2PC(2), INT(2), RA(0.1), RY(0.1), RTD(6), 2PR(2), RTD40(2.5), RTD50(5), RY100(2.5), RY200(5), REY(0.1), RETD(6), 2PRE(2), RETD40(2.5), RETD50(5), REC(0.5), REY100(2.5), REY200(5), FTD(6), FUML(-2), PA14(1), BLKKRTD(6), BLKKRTD(6), INT(2), INT(2), FR(2), FR(2), BLKK(2), BLKK(2), SF(1), SF(1), SK(4), KRTD(6), KRTD(6), PRTD(6), PRTD(6), INTTD(6), INTTD(6), FRTD(6), FRTD(6), FF(2), FF(2), TKA(0.5), TKS(2), TK(1), SF(1), PD(1.5), 2PTRET(2), 2PTRET(2), 1PSF(1), 1PSF(1)

36 players to draft, fuck me.

It's currently set for September 1st at 2am.

[Dan]

Fuck doing that draft at 2am :D

[Limoutsonik]

It's been a while but i got another trade accepted today.
I get: Saquon Barkley,Michael Thomas( Saints WR)
He gets: Emmanuel Sanders,Ben Roethlisberger,Lamar Miller,Alshon Jeffery and Duke Johnson.
Now my starting lineup will consist of: Aaron Rodgers,Fournette,Barkley,D.Hopkins,Michael Thomas,Zach Ertz,Marvin Jones and whatever DEF i pick up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck doing that draft at 2am :D

It wouldn't finish until about 6.

Luckily though the owner has said it's just a placeholder for now and it will be talked about once the league is full.

[Browning]

6? You’d be lucky. Even at one minute per pick you’re looking at 7 hours or so.

What are the thoughts on ours? Shall we just go for it all in one go, or do part of it and finish up offline? 12 x 25 picks is going to take an age and I’m reluctant to cut the pick time down because we live with these decisions forever.

Edit- may have misread your post, thought you said it was a 12 teamer.

[Gray Fox]

I wouldn't cut the pick time down. But doing at the least, a few rounds offline would make sense.

Also, if the other guy doesn't join up, I have an interested party.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

6? You’d be lucky. Even at one minute per pick you’re looking at 7 hours or so.

What are the thoughts on ours? Shall we just go for it all in one go, or do part of it and finish up offline? 12 x 25 picks is going to take an age and I’m reluctant to cut the pick time down because we live with these decisions forever.

Edit- may have misread your post, thought you said it was a 12 teamer.

10 teamer so a total of 360 players being drafted, lol.

[Browning]

You guys remember that shit team in my Dynasty league who took Sanu in Round 1 of the rookie draft and had a whole team of garbage? He has just agreed the following trade:

Give Up: Chark, Round 1 Pick (likely 1.01 with how shit his team is)
Get: Martavis Bryant, Round 2 Pick

It's the first time I've been tempted to use the veto. The guy is fucking clueless, but if he gives that up, God help whoever I get to replace him next year. It doesn't help that he's already agreed 3 trades with the other team that all were poor decisions for him.

[Dan]

I take it he's not in your dynasty league?

[Browning]

Neither of them are, they were the two I chose not to invite.

I’m using my veto, and I don’t care.

[Gray Fox]

Are we still on for Sunday? And did you ever confirm the 12th guy?

The guy who was interested last time I said couldn't commit, has some more free time now so could join if needed.

[Browning]

Yea, Sunday is on. I’ll be posting some league rules on the message board soon but only the previously announced position limits should effect the draft.

We are also up to 12 but if anyone drops out at any point I’ll likely need back ups because I have no idea who else I would invite.

[Browning]

OK, the league rules post is up. It was longer than anticipated, but most of it is stuff I've discussed with the owner of Fay's Fall Guys (my unofficial co-commissioner of leagues I run) and makes sense to both of us. Any glaring concerns you can comment in that thread so that the non-TTH players can read it too, if not then we just get ready to draft (I'll just have to remember to edit the roster sizes to allow us to do the online/offline part).

[Dan]

Jesus, you wrote a book there :D Should all be fine - I was just going through my rankings anyway, as I'd just imported standard redraft ones from another league, so had to go digging for all the rookies & get things shuffled about.

I might set up a daily fantasy league on Yahoo as well if anyone wants to do that.

[Browning]

A lot of it was copied from my other league, where the rules came together in dribs and drabs as we figured stuff out, haha. Obviously had to edit parts of it to make it work for 12 teamer. Only the draft stuff was a pain to write.

[Browning]

Holy shit. My main league keeper deadline just passed, and Fay's Fall Guys forgot to submit his, meaning he doesn't get Zeke in the 3rd round. This changes everything for my 1st round pick because now Zeke is going to be on the board. Of course, he'll probably go before I pick at 5, but someone else has to fall instead.

Edit- The keeper list:

Gurley- Round 3 (Me)
D.Johnson- Round 1
Cooper- Round 3
Gronk- Round 4
Landry- Round 7
Watson- Round 18
Goff- Round 22

The QBs make a lot of sense because it's a 2 QB league so they are amazing value, though I did have the Goff team pencilled in to keep McCaffrey in the 4th but ultimately he's probably made the right call. Landry and Gronk were likely the best picks on teams with no better options, and David Johnson makes sense as the guy is a Cards season ticket holder and picks last. That just leaves.... the head scratcher, particularly as it was 3.01 and the guy could have kept Ertz in round 15 or so.

[Dan]

Oops :D

When is the deadline for ours in the TTH league?

[Browning]

Good point... it's today because we're 1 week away from the draft. Not sure when Yahoo will do it officially, but I'll give everyone who hasn't submitted until Midnight to do so (via PM or this thread if you can't do it on Yahoo now).

[Dan]

I'll get on that now then :D

Seemed to let me set it on Yahoo still.

[Browning]

Yea it says the yahoo deadline is midnight PT, whenever that is.

[Dan]

How many people are we waiting for?

[Browning]

Gray Fox and Ian for sure. Not sure about others I’ll have to check later. I know Fay and Sam sent theirs to me but just need to find them.

Edit- Oh wait I think GF is already done.

[Ian]

Yeah I remembered I had to do it today. Do I do something on Yahoo or do I just tell you?

EDIT: Just realised you answered that question like three posts up.

[Ian]

How do you even do it on Yahoo?

[Browning]

You can’t now because the deadline passed at some point. Just let me know.

[Ian]

Ah okay, cool. I'll be sitting down for a proper look at it this evening so I'll let you know. :)

[Ian]

And it's two keepers, right? Anything else I need to know that you've already told me but I've probably forgotten?

[Browning]

Yea it’s 2 keepers. You can check your draft spot on the results page in case it influences your decision.
thommo is the only other one we are waiting for I believe.

[thommo]

I'll be on it later this afternoon, and I'll let you know before the dynasty draft. Whoever I inherited this team from made some weird choices.

[Dan]

We’re still drafting the dynasty league at 8 tonight, yes?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

At 9.

[Dan]

Even better.

[Browning]

Of course I had a massive power cut tonight that meant I couldn’t even get 3G on my phone let alone anything else... it’s ALWAYS on draft day.

It’s back on now so fingers crossed...

[thommo]

I've just noticed that as Yahoo has reset the teams, I have no idea who was on the roster in the TTH side I inherited. Might just say no keepers and re-draft completely.

[Browning]

Kirk Cousins (Min - QB) Round 6, Pick 10 8 71
Stefon Diggs (Min - WR) Round 8, Pick 10 72 23
Brandin Cooks (LAR - WR) Round 2, Pick 10 52 52
Tyreek Hill (KC - WR) Round 5, Pick 1 37 27
Latavius Murray (Min - RB) Round 18, Pick 1 96 198
Samaje Perine (Was - RB) Q Round 16, Pick 10 191 199
Travis Kelce (KC - TE) Round 4, Pick 10 47 21
Sterling Shepard (NYG - WR) Round 16, Pick 4 153 92
Duke Johnson Jr. (Cle - RB) Round 13, Pick 9 62 110
Isaiah Crowell (NYJ - RB) Q Round 3, Pick 1 129 85
Sammy Watkins (KC - WR) Round 7, Pick 1 137 59
Austin Ekeler (LAC - RB) - 198 215
Charles Clay (Buf - TE) - 203 139
Danny Amendola (Mia - WR) Round 15, Pick 10 170 170
Allen Hurns (Dal - WR) - 228 158
Elijah McGuire (NYJ - RB) D - 264 2122
Matt Prater (Det - K) Round 18, Pick 7 94 179
Pittsburgh (Pit - DEF) Round 16, Pick 8 114 175

[Baz]

So now I may be going out boozing next Sunday. :uhoh:

[Ian]

Right so I'll go for:
Gurley - Round 2
Fitzgerald - Round 7

Gurley was basically my only reliably competent player last year and amongst a lot of unappealing other picks I'm quite happy with Larry in the 7th.

Not sure if I'd be better just only taking one keeper for that second one but whatever.

[thommo]

I think I'll take Diggs and give up the 8th, just the one keeper. Not much value to choose from in all honesty.

[Pleb]

Typical Pleb style I haven't prepared for both drafts :sherlock:

Browning did you get my TTH keepers?

[Browning]

Yea yours were on the site and should be the only 2 players left on your team. I haven't plugged them in yet but I'll do them when I get round to it.

[Browning]

For fuck sake. I wanted an early pick. 12 is disgusting.

[Dan]

Indeed, I'm near the back at 9, while Mahow & Pleb have 3 & 4 :moop:

[Gray Fox]

Just about made it. 2nd pick too. :naughty:

[thommo]

5th pick, not too bad. I have a feeling I'm going to make some big rookie mistakes in this draft. :uhoh:

[Baz]

Can you post a full list of the keepers and the round they’re going in please?

[Ian]

You can see it in Yahoo on the draft screen once Browning gets chance to add mine and Thommo's in.

[Pleb]

That was something :D

[Gray Fox]

Zeke and Stafford for my keepers in TTH please Browning


P.S. We love you, Pleb.

[Browning]

My RBs are horse shit, but otherwise I'm happy with my team considering I had the worst draft slot going.

[Browning]

Rather than re-doing the draft, I've locked all transactions, and will just add people to rosters when they are drafted. It'll make it a bit harder to keep track of, but much less work for me than going through and adding all the picks in again. If people want to make picks now, they can, but we won't officially open until tomorrow morning.

[Dan]

I'm pretty satisfied with most of my team - I'm not thrilled with the RBs again but I think I might just have to accept that's just a part of the way I approach those kinds of drafts. Should have a decent number of options to pad out the onesie positions, and I think I've already decided who my final pick is going to be :drool:

There was a point in the draft where I looked at my queue & had Mike Gesicki & Kenny Stills at the top. I then remembered I also have Kenyan Drake, and it was at that point that my brain triggered the override to stop me drafting three players from one of the two worst teams in the league.

[Pleb]

Zeke and Stafford for my keepers in TTH please Browning


P.S. We love you, Pleb.
Mahow is still seething over that Hurst and Tucker picks.

[Browning]

Shit, no one took AP?

There's my answer.

[Gray Fox]

I feel okay about going 3 x RB to start now. I was looking to pick a WR, but I just didn't see anyone massively jumping out to me that wouldn't have been a reach. Went with RBs that I actually liked instead. I could always trade too.

[thommo]

An ok first attempt at a draft I think, although looking at some of the picks I took, I reached on at least a couple of occasions. Quite satisfying when you make a pick only for someone else to moan about it in chat.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bell and Collins is a fairly swish two even if Collins value is lower in a PPR but backups of D'Onta Freeman and Kenneth Dixon is pretty fucking lol.

I had so many RB's that were taken just ahead of my picks and/or RB's I just couldn't trust so I thought I might as well load up on WR and go RB heavy next year.

[Gray Fox]

Some of the older guys dropping was crazy. But like you say, first attempt. We live and learn.

Way different to a redraft league, but we'll see if I did good or not.

[Browning]

3 of my main targets were Guice, Henry and Dez who I thought people might forget about, so happy to get 2 out of 3. Just need Dez to sign somewhere now.

[Gray Fox]

Clevelend have said no, but I think that's very good news for both him and them.

[Browning]

Pleb if you change your mind about autodrafting let me know, otherwise, as stated, I'll pick for you using the Yahoo rankings, and I will pick it as quickly as possible to get things moving.

[Gray Fox]

What time are we starting tomorrow? And how long for each pick?

[Browning]

Officially it's 8 hours per pick but that's mainly to account for people sleeping/working. I'm hoping it'll move much faster. We did 12 hours in my other league and got through 45 picks or so in 2 days.

It'll obviously shorten if people are moving too slowly.

[Browning]

Taywan Taylor was selected.
Gray Fox kick us off whenever you’re on and then tag the next man up. Once we get to Thommo tag me so I can inform the non TTH guys.

[Browning]

I guess we will start the clock now. Once Gray Fox picks I will pick for Pleb unless he gets back to me and doesn’t want to auto pick.

[Dan]

Are you going to pick in the spirit of Pleb?

[Baz]

Is it 10pm this Sunday?

[Browning]

8pm I believe.

[Baz]

That’s good. I’ll be in a pub but with a mate who’s into NFL so can get away with joining in, at least for the first ten rounds or so. Hopefully the mobile interface is decent. Shame I won’t be able to have my spreadsheet with me - I fear switching between apps will kick me out and I’ll miss a turn.

Is everyone else planning on joining in live?

[Browning]

So I've looked at the autodraft list.... it's not too terrible, but I make no apologies if you miss your pick and end up with a second DST/Kicker. There are quite a few ranked fairly high on the list. Easiest way to avoid it is to pick on time, or send me a list to draft from if you want me to autodraft.

Oh- I'm also going to exclude DeMarco Murray (and any other retired players if I come across them), even though he would be the 1st choice, for some reason.

Plebs pick is very pleb like if it happens.

[Browning]

We are about half way through Gray Fox ‘s time. Great start this.

[Browning]

I hope Mahow and Thommo have their picks lined up.

[Dan]

We’ve got nine rounds of this, right? :D

[Browning]

Indeed. Time will be cut down fairly rapidly at this rate. We've got 2 people (at least) auto picking so those should be fast, but yea...

[Pleb]

In the interest of speeding this shit up, just autodraft my picks Browning and leave the QBs out obvs.

[Browning]

Damn it, your pick was genuinely Tyrod Taylor :D

But I'll exclude QBs for you in that case.

[Pleb]

Amazing :D

I hit my QB quota last night didn't I? :moop:

[Browning]

One way or another Sir Andy Mahowry is on the clock in 4 minutes.

[Browning]

Shit, Mahow was before Pleb?

Well, if he wants Beasley..... I'll have to redo Pleb's pick.

[Browning]

Pleb, you did, but you're technically still allowed Tyrod because he plays for the same team as Baker, and the limit is on teams that your QBs play for.

[Pleb]

Sure in that case then I'll take Taylor :drool:

[Browning]

Alright, I'll change your pick to Tyrod once Mahow picks, assuming he doesn't want Tyrod.

Unless you're joking, in which case... make it known.

You can pick whoever the fuck you want to be fair, at least you're here to pick them.

[Pleb]

Stick with Tyrod please if Mahow doesn't pick him.

This made me lol: "Despite drawing the No. 4 overall pick, The Pleb Dream drafted a roster that will struggle to earn wins. Opponents are likely to enjoy defeating them on a weekly basis, as this team is projected to finish 11th in 12 Team Dynasty. The Pleb Dream are predicted to have a record of 1-12 (2,173 points)."


El Plebbo confirmed.

Mayfield's pick summed up perfectly: "You know when they ask at airport security if your bags have been with you at all times? We have the same question about your draft. Or at least we're questioning why you would select Mayfield in the 3rd round, about seven rounds earlier than his ADP of 117. You may be onto something, though. Mayfield is projected to score 141 fantasy points this season with the Browns. But do you really need so many QBs? After all, you can only start one per week. Mayfield will slot in as the No. 3 QB for The Pleb Dream, according to projected points."


Amazing :cool:

[Browning]

After this round I’m going to shorten the pick time to 6 hours and maybe further from there. This isn’t working...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'll take TY Montgomery please.

[Browning]

thommo is up

[thommo]

Sam Darnold please.

[Ian]

Whatever this is that's happening now is for some other league and I can ignore, right? It looks a right faff.

[Browning]

Indeed, and it is. We should have just done an extra hour last night.

[Baz]

Whatever this is that's happening now is for some other league and I can ignore, right? It looks a right faff.
Yep.

[Browning]

The guy who is up now has been in contact with me all day so I can't imagine his pick will take long, and the next 2 have given me their choices, so we'll motor through those 3. Be ready Dan. I'm going to suggest people send me picks once my picks are out the way because it's unlikely I'm going to be able to snipe you with 24 picks until I go again. Obviously, if you don't want to, you don't have to, but if you're likely to miss the 6 hour deadline otherwise, it would be a good idea.

Me, Sam and Rich (Fay) should move quickly too so it's possible it could even come back to Dan fast, I just need Zach to make his pick.

[Browning]

As promised those 3 picks are in so Dan is on the clock.

[Dan]

Blimey, that moved fast :D I'll have a quick look at the list.

That QB run has fucked me. Guess I'll take Peyton Barber to make my RoJo pick look even worse Browning

[Browning]

Almost back to Dan, just one more pick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How many until it's my pick? Roughly how many hours?

[Dan]

I honestly can't believe what I'm about to do.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It better not be what I'm thinking.

[Dan]

If it is it'll make it completely worth it.

[Browning]

Dan was 9th and you were 3rd Mahow, so there's 7 picks ahead of you. The Discord lot seem to be quicker/auto picking so.... it shouldn't be too long, pending Thommo and Pleb getting their picks in.

[Browning]

I really didn't want Winston, but I only realised today that Luck/Wentz share a bye week. I wanted Ben/Rivers but no luck. Oh well.

So many of the available starting QBs also shared that week.... so I had basically no choice.

Then a 2nd DST was a no brainer because you can't rely on the Ravens every week.

I should also point out that Gray Fox is on auto draft until he actually shows up....

[Gray Fox]

Wait I was told we'd use the offline draft thread on Yahoo? That's the only thing I've been checking and there's been no updates on it.

Had no idea we'd even started or I was on the clock.

[Browning]

Oops. :D

Did you not see the transactions going through?

I created the thread primarily for people who had no better way to contact me, but it's probably redundant. I don't get notified properly when people post there, so it's better to use this and Discord.

At least you only missed one pick, but we could have done without waiting 8 hours...

[Gray Fox]

I had my app open on the offline draft page. When I hit a 4G pocket I'd refresh that page for risk of shit signal.

Still at least it was only my long wait I've missed and not 2 picks back to back. I was going to go for a kicker anyway so it's not worked out horrifically.

[Browning]

Dan is up.

[Dan]

There is no way to properly express through text the complete emptiness with which I say this.

Give me Blake Bortles please.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Okay, even I wasn't feeling that dirty.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

But I have spotted who Fay took, the cunt.

[Gray Fox]

I imagine Dan is currently showering away how dirty he feels.
Browning when my pick comes up can you send me a message via the offline thread? Or I have Discord too if you want to message me on that. That should speed me right up through this.

[Browning]

If you prefer Discord, send me your tag so I can add you. Other than that, yea, I can post in the thread if needed.

Almost back to the TTH picks which begin with thommo and Pleb (who is still on auto draft) but there is one pick to come in first. He should be relatively fast.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can do Discord if it helps too.

Mahow #5274

[Browning]

thommo is on the clock.

[thommo]

Me too. Ironically, I'm PlebbyPleb #3743.

Breida as my pick please.

[Browning]

Sir Andy Mahowry and then Gray Fox

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Equanimeous St. Brown please.

[Gray Fox]

Taking my 3rd and final QB.

Josh Rosen, please.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dan can fuck right off by the way (as can you Fox), I've been looking into my sleeper deep picks and Dan seems to have the majority.

I was looking to see if Aaron Jones and Jordan Wilkins were available for my next pick but the freak already has them.

[Browning]

Calling it a night. We go again in the morning. Otherworlder should know he is on the clock so hopefully I get his picks tonight at some point.

[Dan]

At least I let you have Loomar this time though :)

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'll be up at about 11 so if I'm on the clock you should expect something by then.

[Browning]

Sir Andy Mahowry is up.

[Dan]

Got my next two picks planned out so hopefully nobody snipes me :uhoh:

Keelan Cole going is a moderate annoyance, and I like GF’s picks of Rosen & Samuels, although I’m not sure I can convince myself Rosen is going to be a great fantasy guy despite him being my favourite QB in the class.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dickhead Fox took my next one.

Right, ADRIAN PETERSON.

[Browning]

thommo is on the clock. Pleb’s pick was.... strange.

[Dan]

Yep, that’s pretty bold :D Was that an auto-draft?

[Browning]

It was. No idea why they are ranked higher than some others out there even just amongst DST.

[Dan]

Khalil Mack/John Gruden hype.

In fairness, Arden Key & Maurice Hurst could be huge additions for them, but one might not give a shit 80% of the time & the other might die on the field, so it’s risky.

[Browning]

Remember we shortened to 6 hours so 17:16 is his cut off, hopefully he makes it. I think I’ve got the next few picks after that lined up so we should be able to get going again.

[thommo]

Apologies for the delay, I'll take DJ Chark Jr. please.

[Browning]

You're up Dan

[Dan]

James Connor please Browning

[Browning]

And again Dan

[Dan]

Fucking Fay took my pick :D I’ll decide on the train home.

I’ve already taken Bortles, I may as well embrace the mayhem. ERIC EBRON PLEASE Browning

[Browning]

Back to thommo

[Pleb]

Mahow with the Tucker trade bait :D

How's my counter offer? :sherlock:

[Browning]

Back to Sir Andy Mahowry and then Gray Fox

[Pleb]

Autodrafting :drool:

[Browning]

There are 3 people doing it albeit the other 2 have provided some instructions regarding positions at this point.

[Ian]

What the fuck league is this that this is how you're having to draft?

[Browning]

12 man dynasty. We could have done it online but as some of the players are from the USA we couldn’t start until 9pm UK time and we didn’t want to be there all night doing 12 x 25 picks. As it turned out we did 16 rounds in about 2 hours so carrying on would have been fine but if everyone used their 2 minutes we would have been up all night.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mark Andrews (BAL)

[Dan]

I was waiting for that one :D

[Baz]

Will it be over and done with by the time we’re doing our proper draft on sunday?

[Browning]

At this rate, it should be, but if not, we'll just put it on hold for the TTH draft. I'll get the TTH keepers put in tonight at some stage.

[Browning]

Fucking hell, Pleb completely Plebbed his keeper choice.

[Browning]

All the keepers are in now Baz .

Everyone make sure I've got them right and let me know if there's any issues with yours.

[Dan]

Is it the 'protected keepers' list? Did four teams really not keep anyone?

[Browning]

1 Team did not.

The protected keepers list only shows the ones that were submitted via Yahoo. To see the full list just go to the draft results. Get ready to laugh at the first one...

[Dan]

Didn't Diggs get kept? Don't see him on the list.

I think I had three wrong on the list I'd made (Baldwin of course, plus Stafford & Thommo only keeping one player), so not too bad.

[Browning]

By who? I don’t recall Diggs being there but there are 18 keepers so it should be right.

[Browning]

You're right, Thommo did declare Diggs, I thought he had said no keepers but he changed his mind. I'll add Diggs.

[Pleb]

Fucking hell, Pleb completely Plebbed his keeper choice.
Eh? I'm keeping Ertz and Baldwin?

[Browning]

Yea, it's the cost that makes it a Pleb move. Doug Baldwin for a 1st rounder.

[Pleb]

Ah oh well.

[Browning]

Sir Andy Mahowry is up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ian Thomas please.

[Browning]

thommo is up again

[Browning]

Dan is up

[Browning]

We'll call it there for the night. I'm not expecting Dan to have to pick by 6:30am, but as long as he gets it in at a decent time tomorrow morning we should be fine. I'll probably move on around Midday if not, but I'll be back at work tomorrow so I may be slower to update things but I'll do what I can.

[Dan]

Dan is up

You’re lucky. I’ll have Dante Pettis.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bastard, I was lining him up as my next pick.

[Baz]

All the keepers are in now Baz .

Everyone make sure I've got them right and let me know if there's any issues with yours.Cheers. That’s tonight sorted. :thbup: