TTH NFL Fantasy Football 2017 thread

[Dan]

The unlikely final next week :drool:

:rave:

Half my team is injured, being replaced or playing in a horrible matchup next week though, so I think you’ve got it.

I’m just pleased to make it back to the final though - the overturned Roethlisberger TD would’ve been enough for Browning to beat me, so I got very lucky.

Managed to win three out of four semi finals in my Yahoo leagues, with my only loss coming to someone with Gurley, Bell & Crabtree, so I’d say it’s been a good week.

[Gray Fox]

My first properly good week in a while has come at a good time.

https://i.gyazo.com/cc1d125770750c90d51d89e66cac7331.png

That's even with Wilson and Green not pulling their weight. Opponent could still win in theory but he'd need 50 points from Julio Jones without Austin Hooper getting anything.

Assuming miracles don't happen, that has set up a rematch of last seasons final. Last season he went 13-0 regular season and all the way to the championship game with me, which he lost. No doubt he'll want revenge for that. Both of the other semi-finalists account for my 3 defeats this season, but the one who has gone out has the team I'd much rather be facing. Last season I was confident. Not so much this time around.

[Pleb]

I'm still seething.

Dan should take down Mahow in the final :chief:

[Browning]

Unless Julio puts up about 50 points tonight I’ll win 4/5. If he does I’ll also crash out of the league I autodrafted.

If Julio gets 3 points (so 2 catches or 1 longish one) then the guy who finished second in my dynasty league and got Rodgers back for the play offs is out too, which would be nice. That he lost to the commissioner of my main league that he had his falling out with when he got banned is just the icing on the cake.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://i.imgur.com/GA4ulhN.png

:drool:

[Limoutsonik]

https://ibb.co/kiRm5R

1 FUCKING YARD JONES,1 FUCKING YARD

[Browning]

Then you could have lost by 0.4 instead?

Looks like he needed 6 yards there, but that's still horrible.

[Browning]

Here is my first big final of the week, my Dynasty league:

QB- Case Keenum Vs Cam Newton

My opponent is spoilt for choice most of the season at QB having drafted of added Mariota, Newton, Wentz, Alex Smith and Bortles. With Wentz down I can only assume he plays Newton here against the shitty Bucs. Projections actually have Keenum to outscore him by 1 point, but I can't see it. Newton probably wins here, hopefully only narrowly, but we'll see. Cousins is the man who bought us to the dance, but I just can't trust him this week I don't think.

RB- Le'Veon Bell and Todd Gurley Vs Melvin Gordon and Carlos Hyde

One place where my opponent isn't blessed with options is RB as he's largely had to run the same 2 all season, with only James White or a banged up Coleman/Riddick as potential replacements. We meanwhile have a ridiculous set of RBs and despite their horrible match ups these 2 should be 2 of the best. They are projected to hit 50 points Vs roughly 34 for my opponent, but it could easily be even worse than that for him. This could be what tips the match up.

WR- DeAndre Hopkins, Keenan Allen and Devin Funchess Vs Julio Jones, Michael Thomas and TY Hilton

This is much closer on paper, although hopefully Funchess can eat into it should Newton go off.... not that that would have worked this week. We lost Devante Adams to injury it seems, but Funchess is ready to step in and replace him. This should be closer than the RB match, but hopefully we can win it, especially if Keenan suits up. If he doesn't we could be in trouble. Easily could see the top 4 WRs in the whole league here.

TE- Hunter Henry Vs Jack Doyle

Doubling up on Colts away at the Ravens isn't probaly ideal for my opponent, but he's struggled with TE all season. So have I to be fair, with Henry cementing himself as my number 1 but being piss poor 50% of the time. Coin flip.

Kicker and DST

Will Lutz and Baltimore/Jacksonville Vs Matt Prater and Kansas City[/B]

My opponent has stuck firmly by Kansas City every week, while I've ended up cutting them in every league I had them in I think. I definitely prefer my options, although I'm bound to get the Ravens/Jags decision wrong. Can I trust the Ravens with a final? Part of me is tempted.... part of me REALLY isn't.

Flex- Mark Ingram and ??? Vs Golden Tate and ???

Ingram is a stud this season and that he has to play in the flex shows how spoilt we are for RBs. The other player is undecided for me, with McKinnon, Jordan Howard and Sanu the likely contenders, although Sterling Shephard is also a big temptation if it's true he won't see Peterson. For my opponent, he played Marquise Lee last week but after his 0 score I can't see him sticking with him. He may look to his bench where he has Riddick, John Brown, Tyrell Williams, Moncrief, Beasley and Fuller. Who knows what he'll do with that.

All told the projections currently have me winning it 198-163 with Howard and Lee in the flex, but this likely gets closer when he replaces Lee. Got a few decisions to make, but I'm hopeful we can land the inaugural title. God knows I fully expect to screw it up somehow though.

[Ian]

Consolation final. :drool: This is what it's all about.

[Gray Fox]

I hate games like that. You look at your bench and literally every other option would have got you over the line.

[Browning]

My Main League- AKA Mahow's Wet Dream Final

QB- Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers/Joe Flacco Vs Drew Brees and Russell Wilson

My opponent went 1-2 for QBs and owns the best pair in the league by far. Mariota being a crock of shit and Luck never coming back left me with Big Ben as my default QB1 and then Rodgers came back after I stashed him in hopes of solving the issue. With Rodgers now likely to sit the final game, I searched high and low for someone to start.... and he was pretty fucking low, let me tell you. If Flacco does start for me and fucks this up.....

WR- Keenan Allen, AJ Green and Marvin Jones Vs Doug Baldwin, TY Hilton and Juju Smith Schuster

Facing Hilton in 2/2 of my main leagues means I could really do with..... The Ravens shutting him down. The Wilson/Baldwin combination is a concern. I've never had great WRs in this league but the fact I found Marvin Jones on free agency in the week where I needed to start 3 free agent WRs is still a bit insane. BIg Ben will cancel out Juju somewhat too.

RBs- Todd Gurley and Mark Ingram Vs Alvin Kamara and Kareem Hunt

If Kareem Hunt could go back to where he was before the last couple of games, that would be nice. This is closer than I would have liked any RB battle to be given how great my 2 options are.

TE- Kyle Rudolph Vs Evan Engram

Ironically, both TEs were dropped by the other team and scooped up by their current teams. I dropped Engram after his 0, I just couldn't trust him again when he scored 0 in a match where the Giants had no WRs. I regret the drop in hindsight, but have been very happy with Rudolph as a replacement.

Flex- Alex Collins and Steffon Diggs Vs Greg Olsen and Melvin Gordon

We also face Gordon in 2/2 of my main leagues after Dan rode him to victory over me last week..... fun times. Collins should be solid against the Colts but I'm not sure how much I trust Diggs. Like dynasty, my most likely replacements would be Sanu/Shephard, and they are probably much closer to playing for me here than they are in Dynasty. If I could start 4 RBs I would start Dion Lewis over any of them, but unfortunately I can't.

The Rest- Baltimore, Succop, Forbath, Sean Lee, Poyer and Calais Campbell Vs Los Angeles Chargers, Lambo, Gould, Ogletree, Neal and Graham

Who cares? The big difference will hopefully be the Ravens DST wrecking the Colts. Unlike Dynasty there is no chance I play any other DST.

Current projections have him beating me by 3 which will upgrade to 6 if I have to play Flacco. Both teams smashed it last week with me scoring 258 and him scoring 240. He did however outscore me in Week 14 for the first time in ages, putting up 203 to my 198. It's basically a coin flip it seems. Here's hoping....

[Gray Fox]

Time for the breakdown of my work league final. I'm looking to defend my title in a rematch from last year and there's the small matter of £100 for the winner.

QB - Russell Wilson vs Aaron Rodgers

This one is very dependant on how Rodgers feels about the Vikings. Sense says sit him now there's nothing to play for, but he got hurt by a Viking early this season and they are a divisional rival looking to use this to gain homefield advantage in the play-offs. I could easily see him playing out of spite to Minnesota. If he does play it's a bit of a coin toss as I expect both guys to hit 20 points or so. I've put in a tactical waiver claim for Bortles, just incase he is tempted to pick up the best option.

RB - Jordan Howard and Kareem Hunt vs Ezekiel Elliott and Melvin Gordon/Alvin Kamara

I'm sitting Shady this week. On the road to a now stingy NE defence, no thanks. You have to ride the hot hand in Hunt in another good looking matchup, while Howards should be close enough to warrant him getting decent touches. I both do and don't envy his choice though. To have to leave one of them out is tough. He did pick Elliott up a few weeks back once he had his bye confirmed, but whichever 2 he plays will be solid at least. I think I'm a fair way behind here.

WR - AJ Green and ? vs Stefon Diggs and Jarvis Landry/Robby Anderson

I'm assuming he'll bench Anderson due to the other 2 having very good matchups. Green should be a decent play(I refuse to trust Evans at this point) but for a 2nd starter I'll be turning to the waiver wire. The 2 names I see there are Robert Woods and Larry Fitz. I've put in a request for both, but for now Fitz has priority due to his strong home form and the Giants having nothing to play for. Should I not get either, it's going to be a bit tricky.

TE - Zach Ertz and Austin Hooper vs Hunter Henry and Charles Clay

Ertz is the only stud of these, but it could all be a toss up after that. Any one of the 3 can catch a TD and be useful, mainly Henry. But the other 3 could just as easily post 1 or 2 points. I think I have the slight edge here.

DST - Ravens vs Saints

This is where it is now, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him make a change. I think I've got the best defence for Championship week that isn't Sacksonville. Watch them fuck me over.

Kicker - Lutz vs Gostkowski

Should be 10+ points for both guys. Saints coach going for it a fair bit on short 4th downs is a bit annoying though.

HC - Jaguars v Eagles

Both teams should win and win well. There's a point limit of 10 points on this position so it might not matter too much, but every point helps.


I'd like to still be in it Monday morning. If there's less than 10 points or so, then maybe Ertz can save the day. Either way this is going to be one nervy weekend.

[Browning]

I wouldn't play the Saints DST again if they were facing me and you, so yea, I'd assume he'll waiver in a replacement.

[Gray Fox]

He tends to pick his defence up late in the week as a FA. With that in mind I've put in to waiver claim the Bears, so he might not be able to use the tried and tested method of any defence that plays the Browns.

[Browning]

I've had to put in a waiver claim for a TE in case Hunter sits in dynasty as my only back up is OJ Howard. Slim pickings so I need to decide between Jared Cook, Benjamin Watson, Charles Clay, Vernon Davis and Tyler Kroft. Please pull through Hunter....

[Browning]

Scheduling really is everything in this game, isn't it? Reading my Play Off recaps I went 3-0 against my main league opponent but would have gone 7-8 if I played them every week. Meanwhile I went 2-1 against my Dynasty opponent but would have been 13-2 if we played every week....

[Browning]

Rodgers is out. :(

Oh dear God.

[Dan]

Hunter too, so it looks like you're going to need that waiver claim. I'd go Watson personally, but Davis has a decent matchup, while Clay & Kroft are probably worth considering too.

[Pleb]

I was going to start Newton over Watson in TTH for shits and giggles but looking at the projected stats and shit I may hold off.

In other words, expect me to get fourth :moop:

[Browning]

Hunter too, so it looks like you're going to need that waiver claim. I'd go Watson personally, but Davis has a decent matchup, while Clay & Kroft are probably worth considering too.

This sucks so bad.

It's a toss up between Watson and Clay for me. Clay was piss poor last time out against the Patriots but so were all of the Bills. He is seemingly Tyrod's favourite target so I'm leaning that way, but I've got so much invested in the Ravens smashing the Colts that it's almost in the "fuck it" territory of grabbing Watson and going all in. With it being a massive 1.5 PPR though I'll probably have to go Clay as over the last 5 weeks he's drawn 25 targets to Watson's 14 so it seems like a no contest there. Of course, my opponent could grab Clay to try and fuck me over.... we shall see.

I lied though, I do have Ricky Seals-Jones as another back up, and my opponent is a Cardinals season ticket holder..... just imagine :drool: I'm not doing it though, he's getting binned off for whoever I can grab.

[Dan]

It’s a good sign that I’ve made 22 waiver claims in championship week, right? :uhoh:

[Dan]

I’m amazed nobody put a claim in for Martavis. Chiefs were my second claim (well, fourth as the first three were all Bryant), but I’m okay going with Denver or Arizona.

My team is still a sack of shit for this week though :D I’m almost hoping Amari Cooper plays, which says it all really.

[Limoutsonik]

Is it only from my end or does NFL.com's fantasy website is a bit borked on the add new player section?No matter what i do i only get players alphabetically,not sorted by points.

[Browning]

Waivers went as planned and Charles Clay is in for my Dynasty Super Bowl.

My main league projections now have me losing by 12 points despite benching Collins for Lewis which added 2 more to my score. Still torn between those 2 and whether or not to trust Diggs (or go with Sterling). Would love to win both those leagues, but the main one is looking like I have a mountain to climb.

[Gray Fox]

Waivers have gone through on both sides and quite annoyingly he's picked up Foles as his QB. That does 2 things. Firstly it nullifies Ertz as a big threat. Secondly it now means I have to be taking a pretty good lead into Monday. He's also dropping Kamara and playing Diggs.

https://i.gyazo.com/89ecb4f359bd65c609a8c473e8c72923.png


I don't like my chances any more. I'll know how screwed I am by the end of the Ravens game. I really need their defence to show up this week. A switch to the Bears D is considered, but I believe sticking to my guns is best here.
At RB, I think I'm screwed. Melvin lost his backup so will see all of the ball and Zeke is Zeke.
At WR it could go either way. Depends on game script really. There is 1 late change I can make however as a grumpy Seahawks owner has dropped Doug Baldwin.

To add a little bit more. This is the end of the 3rd year in this league and I've only ever beaten this guy once. In last years final. I've lost every other matchup. Can lightning strike twice?

[Browning]

5 Hours until I have to watch the shitty Ravens and pray they can deliver for me just one time. :(

[Dan]

Good luck Sir Andy Mahowry

[Ian]

Me and Mert is the game of the week.

Probably basically relying on Todd Gurley again.

[Browning]

So far this is going shit. Fucking Ravens.

[Pleb]

I've accepted fourth :cool:

It's better than the "El Plebbo".

[Browning]

Nice work Flacco :cool:

Now need the Ravens to remember they have a defense.

[Browning]

Why can't those cunt Raven defenders actually catch a sure fire INT but Hilton can catch everything that comes his way?

Going to cost me both leagues at this rate. I knew I shouldn't have trusted them.

Most sacked QB in the league and 3 of the pricks can't take him down in the rain? Fucking garbage.

[Gray Fox]

3 picks I could have made myself. That's going to end up costing me a title. I can feel it. Fucking Weddle.

I could do with Diggs getting less than 10 points. But who am I kidding?

[Browning]

Main league seems to be gone and dynasty is now 52-48 having started at about 70-30... fucking brilliant.

[Dan]

Well that got decided quickly :D

[Gray Fox]

Alls I know is it's going to hurt to get to the final and fall short.

I wanted a successful defence of my title :(

[Gray Fox]

Opponent has made a switch. Out goes Melvin Gordon and in comes Kamara. I personally would have stuck with Gordon knowing Ekeler isn't being used in the offence this week. I'll have to hope for a Mark Ingram game.

This opponent has the midas touch when it comes to me. He'll bring in a player for 1 week who will smash it. He also tends to bench the right guy. The only way I beat him last year was to score the highest that anyone has still managed in our 3 years of this league.

[Gray Fox]

Currently moderate to heavy snow in Chicago. Shovelling around the field. That's a run heavy game all day surely.

[Dan]

Currently moderate to heavy snow in Chicago. Shovelling around the field. That's a run heavy game all day surely.

Guess that’s my Kendall Wright play fucked then :moop:

I’m all for Ingram dominating today as well.

[Gray Fox]

It's convinced me to firmly have Howard over McCoy this week. Opportunity should be better and they are less likely to fall way behind.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I will probably only be able to see the 9pm games if that :(

[Gray Fox]

My late decision is now down to 1 thing. Do I play Austin Hooper as my TE2, or do I get Antonio Gates in, with Henry now out. It's probably the last time you'll be able to play Gates. Though I suppose both guys are really TD dependant.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Play Gates for nostalgia.

[Dan]

Someone swap my defences for me, I can’t connect to the app long enough to do it :moop:

[Gray Fox]

Fuck it. Gates is in.

[Gray Fox]

R.I.P to all those facing Gurley.

[Ian]

Welbymania is running wild once again.

By which I mean I've got Goff and Gurley in and they're making up for the failings on my line-up.

[Browning]

Dynasty- My opponent has an 8 point lead thanks to the late TDs for Anderson and Newton. However he only has Carlos Hyde left to play Vs my DeAndre Hopkins and Le'v Bell tomorrow. Oh, I also have what remains of Gurley, if anything.

Main League- I lead by about 80 points with him having Wilson, Baldwin, Juju, Engram, Lambo, Elliot, Ogletree and Graham Vs my Big Ben, Sean Lee and Calais Campbell. Projections have him reaching 222.37 points meaning I'd only need another 13 points which is easy enough, but I just need to hope none of his players go off big time.

[Gray Fox]

1st round of games over. State of play:

https://i.gyazo.com/70b6f6f64da0cc0377f9eb4b75dd7171.png

I lead by 17.1 points. The late pickup of Gates over Hooper is most of that lead. That 17 points is all cushion for now as he has played 1 player more. I'm really going to need that cushion with Zeke about to take the field. I just need him to not go all Todd Gurley on it.

I could use a 20 point game by Wilson and whatever Larry Fitz gives is a bonus. If my luck is in, I go into Monday up 20 or so. If not, then it's not my year.

[Dan]

R.I.P to all those facing Gurley.

I'm in two non-TTH finals. I'm playing him in one & I'm facing him in the other :D

[Ian]

Gurley is the obvious stand-out for my team, as usual, but most of them have been pretty good this week. Dickheads.

[Browning]

My opponent in my main league is now only projected to reach 209 while I'm already at 216 so that's looking good. No idea how that's happened as I got all my actual decisions wrong- Collins over Lewis, Baltimore over any cunts with hands (and some without), Rudolph over Ebron... basically my heroes as it stands are Gurley, Flacco and Poyer who got a TD as a IDP.

Dynasty, so far Hyde hasn't done much, and hopefully it stays that way. If not for the late TDs to Anderson and Newton we'd probably have won already. As it is we're going to have at least some work to do on Christmas Day.

[Dan]

Someone swap my defences for me, I can’t connect to the app long enough to do it :moop:

I'd just like to point this out in case I lose by the difference not being able to swap defences makes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm not getting back into it.

Probably for the best as I won't have to buy a Saints Kamara jersey now.

[Dan]

Hopkins against that Steelers defence that's turned to shit the last month or so is more than enough to win it on his own.

Of course, Blake Bortles reverting back to his true form makes it a bit harder for him, but I'm still going to be scared as long as it's within 20pts. Probably within 30, to be honest :D

[Browning]

I'm the only person who could have swapped them and I didn't get home/check on here until at least 7, so yea....

What's going on with Hyde? Not 1 yard for 45 minutes?

[Ian]

With Larry Fitzgerald also RUNNING RIOT I'm currently projected 175.

[Dan]

I'm the only person who could have swapped them and I didn't get home/check on here until at least 7, so yea....

What's going on with Hyde? Not 1 yard for 45 minutes?

Conspiracy :sherlock: Probably should've done it before I left for my aunt's, to be fair, but hopefully I'll either win anyway or lose by so much it wouldn't have mattered.

I don't think he's been hurt, but they've obviously had half-time & Matt Breida's been in a decent amount.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Keelan Cole is going great to outscore Bottles isn't he? Ugh.

[Browning]

If Hyde could go back to being invisible again, I'd be much happier.

[Browning]

Fuck off Hyde you wanker.

If Hyde plus 8 points is enough to beat Bell and Hopkins it actually is taking the piss.

[Dan]

I was thinking about starting Hyde anyway, just because I thought he had a chance at a TD if things went well, but oh well. I'd like Marquise Goodwin to catch a couple more passes to make up for it though.

[Dan]

Can you not just swap the Cards in for me now Browning? :rosebud:

Here comes Garbage Time Bortles!

[Dan]

Fuck off Blake :cry:

I'm going to be really mad at myself for the Cardinals swap clusterfuck tomorrow night.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:eyemouth:

[Dan]

I'm petitioning for my defence swap to be put through a lot more vigorously now than I was an hour ago.

Can we make INTs even more costly? It's so dumb that someone can throw 3 TDs & still be better than almost every other QB in the league.

[Gray Fox]

Score update now that the Sunday games are done. I was hoping for Wilson to put up decent numbers and Larry Fitz to get me some change. I got the following:

https://i.gyazo.com/ef94e9da66cdef0bf800737341ca80a0.png

He needs 38 points from Foles and James just to catch up. Then there's the added problem that if Foles has a big game, I'm likely to score well through Ertz or my HC. It's not quite over, but I'm about 18 points better off than I'd hoped.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bortles :drool:

[Baz]

Someone swap my defences for me, I can’t connect to the app long enough to do it :moop:

:lol:

Cardinals 24
Broncos 4

Hope it doesn’t cost you! Close though: 88.28 vs 94.36. It’s down to Hopkins vs Bryant. What a finish we have. :drool:

Also congrats to me for not coming last.

[Browning]

24 points wins me the title tonight from Bell and Hopkins, or 3 points per player per quarter. That equates to 2 catches for 0 gain, 1 catch for 17 yards or 27 rushing yards. They should both be able to get that every quarter but I’m going to be nervous. Should be out of sight if I kept the faith in Cousins.

[Dan]

I’m claiming victory whether I lose or not :D

[Dan]

Score update now that the Sunday games are done. I was hoping for Wilson to put up decent numbers and Larry Fitz to get me some change. I got the following:

https://i.gyazo.com/ef94e9da66cdef0bf800737341ca80a0.png

He needs 38 points from Foles and James just to catch up. Then there's the added problem that if Foles has a big game, I'm likely to score well through Ertz or my HC. It's not quite over, but I'm about 18 points better off than I'd hoped.

Old guys coming through :cool:

[Gray Fox]

Could well be looking at the last games of two guaranteed H.O.F players there in Larry and Gates. I'll be delighted if I can hold out on this. I've a feeling opponent is going to need a 2+ TD game from James to give it a go.

If we beat the Raiders by 15 points my HC gets 6 points. That makes his task even harder. It's pretty much all on whether or not Foles gets Ertz a TD.

[Browning]

I've never been this nervous for a game. We've completely dominated the league, but we need to get it done tonight.

Pretty bad start with Bell still 1 point behind what he needs this quarter and Hopkins not on the board yet. If Ben could just start throwing to Bell I would feel a lot happier.

[Pleb]

How the fuck am I still behind by roughly nine points on projections alone? :|

[Browning]

Awful first quarter that. Need to pick it up big time. Learn to throw Yates you cunt.

[Pleb]

Good luck with that.

Hope Big Ben goes off on one throughout this game. The Texans are proper garbage.

[Browning]

Bell got a few catches there and one nice run so he's doing his bit so far, but Hopkins needs to get going. I started needing 25 points and now need 14 so we're almost half way and it's almost half time... if Hopkins could get going on this drive it'll feel better.

Assuming Hopkins gets nothing on this drive I'll need 10.2 points in the 2nd half or 2.55 points per player per quarter. Bell so far has 14.72. 2.55 points is basically 1 catch for about 11 yards I think. Hopkins needs to pull his finger out and go and get them.

Think we can safely write Hopkins off and Bell will probably get pulled before he gets another 10 points....

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yates is a nonce.

[Browning]

That Bell drop hurt. Somehow, someway... I don't think my team is going to win this, which is a fucking farce. I outscored him by over 300 points on the season.

[Browning]

What a guy.

2.26 points needed. Just don't fucking bench him. Hopkins... be a hero.

[Browning]

:drool: Barring negative points we've done it.

Always the way, when I write my team off on here they get it together. I'll remember that for next season.

That leaves me champion in 3/5 leagues including the 2 I care about most and potentially a 4th but Hopkins is hurting me there too. Currently 63-37 to win that one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If I do win this by less than 20 points I'm fine with Dan being the unofficial champion.

[Gray Fox]

Hopkins is so fucking good.

Final is on a knife edge now.

[Dan]

I'm not watching the game. I can't take the tension :D

I also forgot until 10:45, but whatever. Fucking three points in it now. It's a hell of a final, to be fair.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

.38.

I wish Dan would have been able to change his D/ST, wouldn't have felt this bad :(

Grats, dickhead.

[Gray Fox]

Damn. 0.38.

That's close enough for a stat correction to sway it. But provisional congratulations to Dan on retaining!

[Dan]

Wow, that's pretty mental. Is that the closest game we've had in either season?

Can you swap my DST over now? :)

EDIT: Just checked my other Yahoo leagues - lost my 3rd/4th game in the league where everyone died, lost to the team with Gurley barring 36pts from Ertz & Elliott, and then went to the team where I played Gurley & finished 11-3 in the regular season to find that it's 101 - 106 to the other guy :| I was stunned until I actually looked at my team & remembered I still had Foles & Jeffery to play, so that should be a much more deserved victory than the TTH one.

[Browning]

Dynasty - Wrapped up a well deserved championship. From being 2-3 at the start of the season (including a loss by half a point in week 1, and losing to a team who I considered the worst in the league but they somehow made the Play Offs) we then hit our stride and won 11 on the spin. The final was too close for comfort but the Hopkins TD iced it and we end up winning by 15 points. Still got issues at QB (Cousins, Luck, Keenum and Mahomes) and potentially TE (Henry, Howard, Clay) to worry about for next season but with our insane RBs and Hopkins leading the way at WR we should be set for a long time.

Main League - Technically this is still on, but it's not going to happen for my opponent. We lead by 61 points and all he has is Elliot and Graham (DE) left to play for the Eagles tomorrow. Elliot's highest game of the season is 19 and Graham's is 9.5 so I think we can engrave our name on the trophy. This league is a roller coaster for me. 2 years ago I started 1-5, snuck into the Play Offs somehow and won the title. Then last season we started 6-1 and were easily the best team in the league only to end up 7-7 and miss out on the Play Offs. This year had neither extreme and we were just solid throughout and narrowly missed the number 1 seed when we were stunned in week 14, but turned up for the Play Offs to score 254 this week and 258 last week. My opponent managed 240 last week (the highest score achieved by anyone other than me in the Play Offs) but is only on for 209 this week.

4th League- A back and forth final with Fay until Gurley went insane, and then it was over. Everything is concluded and we've won it 259-200. The irony was he messaged me part way through Gurley's game saying that Gurley was my only player doing well and that all he was going to win me the title on his own because he was outscoring me at every other position... but if you remove Gurley's 56 points, I still won. :D

Autodraft League- Another me Vs Fay final, and I wouldn't begrudge him the win in his own league. I currently lead 141-108 and I have Alshon left to play Vs Foles and Elliot. Alshon limiting Foles ability to eat into it should see me land the title (currently 79% chance according to Yahoo) but I couldn't care less.

What a season. If only I had taken Gurley over Dez (which I was genuinely considering and even said it in the draft chat after Ian took him a pick or so later) it would be 5/5, but I'll settle for what I got.

[Dan]

That's a fantastic season, to be fair. 4 wins out of 5 is insane.

What kind of scoring system do you have where Gurley scored 56pts though?! :cab:

EDIT: I've just seen the score Welby's team has put up this week. Still two players to go as well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Here's the other final I'm in:

https://i.imgur.com/65Cwawh.png

I really need the Raider defence (fucking hell) to turn up tomorrow.

Oh and Gurley scored 59.3 points in this league but 12.5 came from these weird bonuses:

Todd Gurley 100-199 Rushing Yards Bonus 1 2.50
Todd Gurley 40+ Receiving Yard TD Bonus 1 2.50
Todd Gurley 50+ Receiving Yard TD Bonus 1 5.00
Todd Gurley 100-199 Receiving Yards Bonus 1 2.50

[Gray Fox]

That must be full PPR with some yardage bonuses surely?

[Browning]

Yes it is.

118 rushing yards gives him 11.8 plus 2 points for going over 100.
10 catches is another 10.
158 receiving yards is 15.8 plus 2 for going over 100 and another 3 for going over 150.
Then 12 for his 2 TD.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

2 finals, 2 losses :(

Feels bad man.

[Ian]

The important thing, I'm sure we can all agree, is that Welbymania got to run wild one last time.

[Browning]

Held off Pleb for the bronze trophy too. :drool:

Shame I couldn’t complete the set and win TTH after bossing the standings but can’t complain too much.

[Pleb]

My off-season was proper garbage despite my unexpected regular season run :drool:

I had fourth locked in when I was massively behind against Mahow in the semi final. I blame Cam Newton :moop:

[Dan]

That was only decided by half a point as well :cab:

Good to see Amari Cooper scoring well on my bench again, the prick. Nearly put him in when Kendall Wright had his chances snowed out, but Gillislee returned to my team from last year to get me another decent performance.

[Gray Fox]

Looking through today, so so many people lost out due to only needing a couple of points but having Crabtree or Jeffery to get them.

[Browning]

We have some new League History, and a new URL you can bookmark for future seasons :drool:

While we're all still in a fantasy mood and before we all forget about it, I guess we should discuss potential changes for next season. Open to any and all suggestions. The number one thing on the agenda is whether or not we move to PPR. So let's make the vote official from now.

[Ian]

I would be in favour of smaller benches.

I don't think I care either way as regards PPR.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I vote yes to 0.5 PPR.

[Browning]

I'd prefer a full point PPR, but could live with 0.5 if it had more support. My Dynasty/Main leagues are an insane 1.5, so I can live with anything.

I know for a fact that Fay wants to swap to PPR, so that makes 3 of us with me and Mahow. A couple more and we'll make the switch official. Stipulate if you prefer 1 or 0.5 and we'll go with the majority on that too.

[Gray Fox]

I'm fully on board for PPR. I have no preference on full or half point.

A personal preference from me would be to trim the starting rosters of 1 flex spot. Aside from that I think all is good.

Side note to how shit it is that we're now done with fantasy football for pretty much 8 months.

[Browning]

I'm fairly sure Dan was wanting PPR too last time it came up, so that gives us 5 out of 9 (as I'm not sure Sam will be back, but if no one else joins next year then he can). So we'll swap to some form of PPR.

[Ian]

I'd probably say 0.5 PPR if we're voting on that too.

[Dan]

I’d go half point if I could choose, but I’m honestly fine with whichever format we use. As for the rosters, I can’t decide whether it’s too much or not enough - maybe losing one FLEX or WR spot would do it, but I’d have no problem if anyone wanted to make the rosters bigger.

I’ve not helped much, basically :D

[Browning]

Seems like half a point PPR is the way to go then.

I don't think the rosters should be any bigger. They work in my 8 team leagues but it was a stretch in a 10. Losing a spot or 2 could be done.

[Limoutsonik]

I'd like to participate for next year and i am good with any changes that you gents make.

[Baz]

Yes

[Pleb]

I'm fine with whatever PPR we decide on.

I would get rid of a WR spot and keep the two flex spots going personally.

[Browning]

We may as well decide the other issue then:

1 keeper or 2? And what rule on keeping the same player as last year? Personally I wouldn’t allow it but I’m open to ideas.

Edit- just realised we already decided at the start of the year there would be a one year limit on keepers, so anyone kept last year will not be eligible. Still need to decide if it's 1-2 keepers for next year though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd rather 2 but I'm more than fine with just the 1.

[Baz]

Yeah go for 1, makes it more interesting.

[Gray Fox]

1 keeper, 1 year limit. Seems about the best way to me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wanted to keep Hopkins and Kamara :(

[Dan]

I would probably prefer 2, but staying with 1 keeper for 1 year is fine, and ditching a WR spot to keep the 2 FLEX sounds like an idea too.

I'll probably set up a daily fantasy league on Yahoo too if people want to have a go at that.

[Gray Fox]

Would we have any interest in going Dynasty?

We seem to have the same core group interested in this, so just a thought.

[Browning]

I don't know if I have much/any interest in another Dynasty league, one is enough.

I do love that new "all time" tab on the league page I set up though. It's just a small thing but is cool to look back at. Shame we left Yahoo for a year really as I couldn't include it. Also no idea if there were any leagues before 2003... I couldn't be bothered to go back any further.

[Dan]

I have three spots that might come up in the dynasty league I set up this year if people want to do dynasty. All three have pretty decent teams as well - think one has Hunt & one has Kamara off the top of my head.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I might be interested.

[Limoutsonik]

Explain keeper and dynasty format if you can gents.

[Dan]

They're basically the same, except keeper tends to allow you to retain one or two players, and only for a season or two, whereas dynasty tends to let you keep almost all your team every year. Dynasty rosters are usually a bit larger as well.

Here's the link to the dynasty league. (https://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/leagues/203218) The bottom three teams are all inactive, and I've just sent out a reminder to the guy in sixth as well. I'll wait to see if any of them return for next season, but if not then the places are up for grabs. I'm thinking about lowering the number of keepers by two or three, and I'll take out week 17 for next season too.

[Gray Fox]

Keeper - At the end of each season you are allowed to keep a selected number of players for the next season. It's usually 1 or 2 players limited to a year. The rest of the players are re-drafted. The penalty is almost always you lose the round pick from which you claimed them the previous year.
For example this season my keeper was Le'Veon Bell. I got him in the 3rd round last year due to his suspension, so this year I had no 3rd round pick. I simply had Bell. This way rewards you for finding gems late on in drafts, or getting good value on players.

Dynasty - Everyone essentially owns their own club. Rosters are much larger and it will start with one large draft. Each team keeps their players year to year. Each year there is another draft, order based on previous seasons results, in which the new rookies are up for grabs.
This way of playing is much deeper and for the committed, with the focus on the group of people playing together for many years. It also allows you to build a roster as you see fit. Do you get in all the young guys and plan for the future? Or do you go big on the win now mentality? You can also trade players for future draft picks as you would in the real NFL. This mode tends to put off the more casual player as it can take a couple of seasons to recover if you're the Browns of your league.

[Limoutsonik]

In that link for the dynasty league,are the rosters gonna stay as i see them?If so i would like to claim one of them if it's possible.

[Gray Fox]

I'd also be up for claiming one of a few of those teams if you need.

[Dan]

Yeah, they'll be the same by the time you take them over, assuming none of the owners return next season. Currently you can keep 20 players, but I'm thinking of dropping it to 18.

[Limoutsonik]

Can we add players via trades or free agency?In the interest of first come,first served i would like to claim FamBam 35 as my team if that is possible.

[Dan]

Yep, still got waivers & trades. It won't be at least until after the draft that I drop the current owners, but if they're available that's fine by me.

[Browning]

How do people feel about Play Off Reseeding? I wasn't aware of it as an option until it popped up at the end of the regular season and while I considered it (because it's what they do in the NFL) I wasn't going to do it because I was the number 1 seed and it would look dodgy. Is that something we should have for next year?

[Dan]

I don't think I understand what it does, to be fair.

[Browning]

I think what it does is this, but someone correct me if I'm wrong:

This year the Quarter Finals were Dan (4) Vs GF (5) and Mahow (3) Vs Fay (6). As the number 1 seed I would face Dan or GF because I was rewarded with avoiding Mahow.

However if Mahow had lost to Fay, Pleb would have ended up with the "easier" semi final.

Reseeding would have meant I faced Fay in that scenario, but faced Dan/GF if Mahow won.

[Baz]

Can we add players via trades or free agency?In the interest of first come,first served i would like to claim FamBam 35 as my team if that is possible.This guy. :D

FWIW I don't like the idea of dynasty. Most of the fun I get from this is from the LIVE draft night, cos I'm a saddo with no social life.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I should get first dibs being the one who first showed interest.

[Pleb]

They're basically the same, except keeper tends to allow you to retain one or two players, and only for a season or two, whereas dynasty tends to let you keep almost all your team every year. Dynasty rosters are usually a bit larger as well.

Here's the link to the dynasty league. (https://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/leagues/203218) The bottom three teams are all inactive, and I've just sent out a reminder to the guy in sixth as well. I'll wait to see if any of them return for next season, but if not then the places are up for grabs. I'm thinking about lowering the number of keepers by two or three, and I'll take out week 17 for next season too.
If Mean Machine is available then I'll take it. Lemme know.


How do people feel about Play Off Reseeding? I wasn't aware of it as an option until it popped up at the end of the regular season and while I considered it (because it's what they do in the NFL) I wasn't going to do it because I was the number 1 seed and it would look dodgy. Is that something we should have for next year?
Do it :drool:

[Gray Fox]

I'd take any but PIPSQUAD.

[Limoutsonik]

So here are the results from my 12 teams this season:
NFL.com Team 1: 11-3 record and got to the championship final which i lost.
NFL.com Team 2: 11-3 record and finished in 3rd place.
Nfl.com Team 3: 10-4 record and got to the championship final which i lost.
NFL.com Team 4: 8-6 record and got to the championship final which i lost.
NFL.com Team 5: 12-2 record and finished in 3rd place.
NFL.com Team 6 : 5-9 record,didn't make the playoffs,7th place in the end.
ESPN Team 1: 7-6 record,made the final which i won.
ESPN Team 2: 10-3 record,finished in 3rd place.
ESPN Team 3 : 8-5 record,made the final which i won.
ESPN Team 4 : 8-5 record,finished in 3rd place.
ESPN Team 5 : 7-6 record,finished in 3rd place.
Yahoo Team : 4-7 record,didn't make the playoffs,8th place in the end.

All in all,for someone who started watching the NFL 2 years ago to have 2 wins out of 12 teams,i think it's pretty good going.Gutted to lose 3 championship finals,but i will rebound next year.I am not going to be doing some many teams though,only gonna do the 6 nfl.com allowed teams because its the best layout that i am comfortable with.

[Gray Fox]

I have no idea how you keep up with 12 leagues. I think 3 would be about the most I could put my full interest into.

[Dan]

I had five this season, which was fine, but three were random leagues so I don't think I'd want to go much higher if they were all proper, competitive leagues.

[Dan]

I have three spots that might come up in the dynasty league I set up this year if people want to do dynasty. All three have pretty decent teams as well - think one has Hunt & one has Kamara off the top of my head.

One of these three teams have left (https://www.fleaflicker.com/nfl/leagues/203218), and the other two will be booted if they don't show up in the next two weeks.

The plan is to do the draft on 9th June at 10pm, so assuming Sir Andy Mahowry, Limoutsonik & Gray Fox are still interested you should all be able to join.

[Browning]

Weird, I was just reading this thread last night, because my Dynasty league is also starting up again.

You're doing your draft in June? Any reason? I still have no decision on when to do mine, but the keeper deadline is coming up in a few days (though fairly sure we are all set).

[Limoutsonik]

I am flattered but this year i am just going to stick to the 6 allocated teams in NFL.com's site,don't want to split my focus across 3 or 4 websites.

[Gray Fox]

I'll join. I see "Die Nasty" is free, but which are the other two teams again?

I'm trying to convince my work league to go Dynasty. We have the same core of 7-8 players each season so it makes sense. Although at present, half of them love the idea, the other half would just rather do a keeper or two.

[Pleb]

I'll take a stab at it :chief:

Have you joined Gray Fox?

[Gray Fox]

Not yet. Waiting for the 3 teams and Mahow so we can either pick fairly or Dan can assign them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm not so sure because of the draft day.

June is so fucking early.

[Dan]

Weird, I was just reading this thread last night, because my Dynasty league is also starting up again.

You're doing your draft in June? Any reason? I still have no decision on when to do mine, but the keeper deadline is coming up in a few days (though fairly sure we are all set).


The original plan was to do it at the same time as normal drafts, but it sounds like keeper league rookie drafts are normally within a month of the actual draft taking place, so I’ve moved it forward. The date is just to give everyone enough time to set keepers & let the inactive owners have a fair shot at keeping their teams.


I'll join. I see "Die Nasty" is free, but which are the other two teams again?

I'm trying to convince my work league to go Dynasty. We have the same core of 7-8 players each season so it makes sense. Although at present, half of them love the idea, the other half would just rather do a keeper or two.

It’s the bottom three teams - fambam & pipsquad are the two in jeopardy.


I'll take a stab at it :chief:

Have you joined Gray Fox?

I forgot it’s a public league so I might have to get the open spot filled in case someone takes it. Does anyone have a preference for that particular team/not want to risk the other spots not opening up?

I’ll probably get the open one done ASAP & then the other two will be sorted in a couple of weeks.

[Gray Fox]

I'll take the bottom team "Fambam" if that's alright?

[Pleb]

I'll take Die Nasty if it's still open Dan

[Dan]

I'll take the bottom team "Fambam" if that's alright?

No idea why you’d want the team with Kamara, Dalvin Cook & the first overall rookie pick :D

If Mahow’s interested then I’ll let you argue it out, but otherwise it’s yours if it’s still inactive in a fortnight. Same for Die Nasty, Pleb.

[Pleb]

Just looked at my team :D :face:

Mahomes, Garoppolo and Brady as my QBs? :D

[Gray Fox]

No idea why you’d want the team with Kamara, Dalvin Cook & the first overall rookie pick :D

If Mahow’s interested then I’ll let you argue it out, but otherwise it’s yours if it’s still inactive in a fortnight. Same for Die Nasty, Pleb.

I've been rumbled :D

[Pleb]

There's at least six keepers that I am pretty much confident on keeping, the rest of the team though is something to behold.

[Gray Fox]

I've just seen the draft has 30 rounds.

Do you really pick that many?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'll think about it.

Would obviously like the team Fox called dibs on but the bastard got there first.

[Dan]

I've just seen the draft has 30 rounds.

Do you really pick that many?

I think that's just because keepers haven't been set, so teams have 30 roster spots to fill. I would assume that will come down once they're set, but this will be the first rookie draft I've run so I'm not entirely sure yet :D

Do we have a problem if Pleb takes the open spot then? I can always do some kind of random draw or something to decide who gets which of the other two spots if they both open up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He called dibs and I'm a firm believer in the rule of dibs.

[Pleb]

I think that's just because keepers haven't been set, so teams have 30 roster spots to fill. I would assume that will come down once they're set, but this will be the first rookie draft I've run so I'm not entirely sure yet :D

Do we have a problem if Pleb takes the open spot then? I can always do some kind of random draw or something to decide who gets which of the other two spots if they both open up.
I already took it :sherlock:

[Dan]

I noticed :D For a second I thought some random fucked had jumped in, but it turns out it was the correct fucker.

[Browning]

I only have 2 picks in my rookie draft (I kept 24/26 players) and am close to trading away my First Rounder.... fuck rookies. :drool:

Just trying to decide whether I would rather get Russell Wilson or Tyreek Hill in exchange.

[Pleb]

I noticed :D For a second I thought some random fucked had jumped in, but it turns out it was the correct fucker.
:D

Seriously though there's at least 4-6 players that are legit keepers for my team. I may have to keep Tom Brady :vomit:

[Browning]

Of course you keep Tom Brady..... why the fuck wouldn't you?

Yes, he has fuck all value after maybe 1-2 more years, but for now, he's a QB1, and you don't throw a QB1 onto the....

Oh wait, you're the guy who cut Wilson last year. Never mind.

[Dan]

You can keep 18 players, Pleb. I'd imagine you can make room for Brady.

[Pleb]

Of course you keep Tom Brady..... why the fuck wouldn't you?

Yes, he has fuck all value after maybe 1-2 more years, but for now, he's a QB1, and you don't throw a QB1 onto the....

Oh wait, you're the guy who cut Wilson last year. Never mind.
Yeah that didn't happen :sherlock:

[Browning]

For fuck sake...

I announced my Dynasty draft date and somehow that's turned into a discussion (or rather, 1 guy stomping his foot and everyone else telling him to fuck off) about how we should swap to a 2 QB league.... in a dynasty league... where everyone already has their rosters, and drafted/traded/made roster moves on the understanding it's a 1 QB league.

Of course he has Rodgers, Stafford and Carr, but that's not a factor.

I may pull the trigger on trading for Wilson, and then change it.

[Pleb]

You can keep 18 players, Pleb. I'd imagine you can make room for Brady.
Dan's Dynasty League:

QB
Tom Brady (K)
Patrick Mahomes
Jimmy Garoppolo (K)

Keeping Garoppolo and Brady is the logical choice here considering I’m not a huge Brady fan. I’m not too keen on Mahomes as a backup QB in case Garoppolo and/or Brady shits the bed this season. The QB poll in your league Dan looks…interesting considering what I inherited :sherlock:

RB
Ezekiel Elliott (K)
Kareem Hunt (K)
Jamaal Charles
Eddie Lacey
Jonathan Steward (K)
Mike Tolbert
Jacquizz Rodgers
Doug Martin
Jeremy Hill
Devontae Booker
James Conner
Chris Carson

There’s 12 of the fuckers. Kareem the Dream and Zeek stays naturally. Jonathan Steward maybe a ballsy move.

WR
Jordy Nelson (K)
Pierre Garcon
Kelvin Benjamin
Rishard Matthews
Torrey Smith
Dontrelle Inman
Michael Floyd
Cordarrelle Patterson
Robby Anderson

Nelson is pretty much the only one I’m confident on keeping. The rest though are a little bit suspect.

TE
Jordon Reed
Delanie Walker
Martellus Bennett

Let’s not pretend that Delanie Walker and Jordon Reed are fantasy studs :D

K
Chris Boswell (K)

D/ST
Bengals (K)
Seahawks (K)

I’m probably more than likely going to keep Boswell and the D/ST but the Bengals though :vomit:

[Browning]

Depending on the keeper costs you need to be keeping more than that. Letting Mahomes go for a start is madness. It's dynasty.....

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pleb :console:

Read up on how it works.

[Pleb]

It's a provisional list at the moment.

I may have to look at the RB and WR situation and lock the rest of the roster.

[Browning]

Brady/Mahomes/Jimmy is a great set of QBs for a Dynasty. By comparison mine are Cousins/Luck/Mahomes.

[Dan]

There’s literally no cost to keep anyone - Mahomes, Martin, Carson, Booker, Benjamin & Anderson should all be on the list, as should Reed & Walker.

[Browning]

I believe Martin, Carson, Booker and Reed were dropped in mine, though I could be wrong about Reed.

The others definitely need to stay.

[Gray Fox]

Even though I'm going to be in this league I have to say something. What are you doing not keeping Mahomes? :cab:

The Chiefs traded away a pretty good QB in order to give the job to Mahomes. I'm also pretty sure Martellus Bennett has retired.

By the way Dan what's the deadline for the other 2 guys getting the boot?

[Browning]

To give you some perspective Pleb, of the top 100 players for 2018, according to the rankings on Yahoo, only 11 are available in my rookie draft. Only 2 of those (Barkley 15, and Penny 49) are in the top 50. The best available TE is Delanie Walker (89) and the best WR is Nelson Agholor (109) and frankly I'm baffled that either of them were dropped. The top QB is Case Keenum at 158 (which I dropped).

Granted, we allow more keepers than your league does, but not everyone used even close to their allowance. It's going to be slim pickings which is why I'm more than happy to trade the number 8 pick for Russell Wilson.

[Browning]

Fantasy Pros really are a bunch of cunts when it comes to their "premium" services. This year you can't even modify draft picks in a mock draft without paying. Soon it will unusable without upgrading and paying their ridiculous prices. Are there any other mock draft services out there that are better?

[Dan]

Fantasy football calculator does live mocks, and I think they do sim ones too, but they’re not as good as fantasy pros from what I remember

[Dan]

By the way Dan what's the deadline for the other 2 guys getting the boot?

Two weeks. That’d leave you another two weeks until the draft.

[Browning]

Fantasy football calculator does live mocks, and I think they do sim ones too, but they’re not as good as fantasy pros from what I remember

Seems you also have to pay for that, unless you're happy with a 2 round mock.

I mean, it's not a massive deal breaker to the free service, but I liked being able to customise picks to what I thought people would do or play out different scenarios. Taking that away just seems ridiculous.

[Pleb]

Cheers for the feedback lads :lewis: I'm assuming we're a full PPR league Dan?

Browning are we reactivating the TTH League? :sherlock:

[Dan]

Half PPR. You should probably read the scoring/roster rules :D

[Pleb]

Doing that now :youpi:

[Browning]

Yes we are but not until much nearer the time.

[Pleb]

Keepers (Provisional):
Tom Brady (QB)
Jimmy Garoppolo (QB)
Patrick Mahomes (QB)
Ezekiel Elliot (RB)
Kareem Hunt (RB)
Jonathan Steward (RB)
Doug Martin (RB)
Devontae Booker (RB)
Chris Carson (RB)
Torrey Smith (WR)
Robby Anderson (WR)
Jordy Nelson (WR)
Pierre Garcon (WR)
Kelvin Benjamin (WR)
Rishard Mathews (WR)
Jordon Reed (TE)
Delanie Walker (TE)
Chris Boswell (K)

I'm pretty confident in locking in this list.

[Browning]

My keeper list is:

QB- Kirk Cousins, Andrew Luck, Patrick Mahomes
Cut- Case Keenum

RB: Todd Gurley, Le'Veon Bell, Mark Ingram, Jordan Howard, Jerick McKinnon, Derrick Henry
Cut: Samaje Perine, Mike Davis

WR: De'Andre Hopkins, Keenan Allen, Davante Adams, Amari Cooper, Allen Robinson, Devin Funchess, Sammy Watkins, Sterline Shepard, Mike Williams
Cut- Mo Sanu

TE: Hunter Henry, OJ Howard
Cut: Charles Clay, Antonio Gates

DST: Jaguars, Vikings, Ravens
Cut- Bears

K- Lutz


I would have liked to cut another DST, but I'm not convinced I can part with any of those in a Dynasty. The Ravens would be the obvious cut, but I'm really, really not sure why most experts have the Vikings as the 2nd best DST when they were so shite last year, but that makes me not want to part with either the Vikings or Ravens at this point. It would give me a 3rd rounder though so I may have to consider it before the deadline officially passes tomorrow.

I'm not sure I really need Russell Wilson with that set of QBs, but I can't see me getting anything better with the 8th pick, so I'm looking to execute that trade, but the other guy hasn't officially signed off on it yet. If it falls through, I'll probably try and get Tyreek Hill (who has been put on the trade block for a 1st). I've got a player in mind for my 2nd round pick, just need to hope he falls.

[Pleb]

Keepers
Tom Brady (QB)
Jimmy Garoppolo (QB)
Patrick Mahomes (QB)
Ezekiel Elliot (RB)
Kareem Hunt (RB)
Jonathan Steward (RB)
Doug Martin (RB)
Devontae Booker (RB)
Chris Carson (RB)
Torrey Smith (WR)
Jordy Nelson (WR)
Pierre Garcon (WR)/Robby Anderson (WR)
Kelvin Benjamin (WR)
Rishard Mathews (WR)
Jordon Reed (TE)
Delanie Walker (TE)
Chris Boswell (K)
Seahawks (D/ST)

I'm toying between Garcon and Anderson at the moment as I decided last minute to keep the Seahawks D/ST over the Bengals. Do I really have round 13 to 30 as my draft picks this year Dan? :cab:

[Browning]

Keep both Garcon and Anderson. If you need to kick one of those WRs, it's Torrey Smith.

Jonathan Stewart can be cut too. He's not going to see the light of day behind Barkley, and even if he was to get injured, there's plenty of mouths to feed in that run game.

[Dan]

Keepers
Tom Brady (QB)
Jimmy Garoppolo (QB)
Patrick Mahomes (QB)
Ezekiel Elliot (RB)
Kareem Hunt (RB)
Jonathan Steward (RB)
Doug Martin (RB)
Devontae Booker (RB)
Chris Carson (RB)
Torrey Smith (WR)
Jordy Nelson (WR)
Pierre Garcon (WR)/Robby Anderson (WR)
Kelvin Benjamin (WR)
Rishard Mathews (WR)
Jordon Reed (TE)
Delanie Walker (TE)
Chris Boswell (K)
Seahawks (D/ST)

I'm toying between Garcon and Anderson at the moment as I decided last minute to keep the Seahawks D/ST over the Bengals. Do I really have round 13 to 30 as my draft picks this year Dan? :cab:

It just looks that way because keepers haven’t been taken into account yet. It’ll end up being the first round once everyone has sorted their keepers out.

I might cut the two inactive owners this weekend - getting bored of waiting now :D

[Gray Fox]

For the benefit of those not in Dans league, assuming there's not a late appearance by the owner, this is the team I'll inherit. Along with the No.1 pick.


QB

Matt Ryan
Jared Goff
Trevor Siemian
Brian Hoyer

RB

Melvin Gordon
Dalvin Cook
Mark Ingram
Alvin Kamara
Aaron Jones
Wayne Gallman
Robert Turbin
Brian Hill

WR

Julio Jones
Larry Fitz
Brandin Cooks
Kenny Golladay
Corey Coleman
Marquise Goodwin
Jamison Crowder
Cole Beasley
Zay Jones
Jordan Mathews
Taywan Taylor
ArDarius Stewart

TE

Jason Witten
Travis Kelce
George Kittle

D/ST

Texans
Eagles

K

Dan Bailey


I can keep 18 of this lot. 1 decision is already made with Witten retiring. That just leaves 11 more to cut. 1 or 2 tricky decisions to make, but quite a few easy lock ins.

[Browning]

Bottom 2 QBs, 3 RBs and 2 WRs can join Witten straight away as can Beasley. That just leaves 2 more. Easy.

[Dan]

Well Ingram is suspended 4 games & he’s a free agent after the season so you may as well cut him.

You don’t have to keep all 18, by the way. You’ll end up with 30 picks minus however many keepers you select, and assuming the draft works how I think it should you’ll have all the free agents & rookies available.

[Browning]

Mark Ingram could lose a leg and I would keep him due to his heroics last year. Cutting him would put a voodoo curse on my team.

[Browning]

The Wilson trade has been confirmed after another manager declined Wilson + 4th pick for the 1st pick. I then gave up the 8th pick for Wilson. None of the WRs in this class really excite me and my RBs are insanely good, so it made sense to get a sure fire QB. I probably now need to trade one of my other 3 though.

[Dan]

Right, I'm going to clear the inactive owners out tonight. Are you guys agreed on Gray Fox getting FamBam & Sir Andy Mahowry getting Pipsquad?

[Gray Fox]

I'm still good with it. Got the app downloaded ready to go on my phone too.

I've also been looking through the draft section. Pleb and another owner it seems have declared their keepers and are now only showing as having picks for 12 rounds. So it does work itself out.

[Dan]

Teams are officially open now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

QB

Ben Roethlisberger

RB

Frank Gore
Adrian Peterson
Darren Sproles
Ryan Mathews
Shane Vereen
Theo Riddick
Kerwynn Williams
Chris Thompson
Jerick McKinnon
Kenyan Drake
Dwayne Washington

WR

Brandon Marshall
Davante Adams
Sterling Shepard
Randall Cobb
Ted Ginn
Mohamed Sanu
Jermaine Kearse
Taylor Gabriel
Sammie Coates
J.J. Nelson

TE

Evan Engram
Antonio Gates
Charles Clay
Dwayne Allen
Cameron Brate

K

Adam Vinatieri
Sebastian Janikowski

DEF

New York Giants


https://i.imgur.com/bu8fJbS.gif

This is worse than a Pleb draft.

I don't there are going to be many keepers in there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've set Roffles, Davante Adams, Sterling Shepard, Cobb, Engram, McKinnon, Drake, Coates and Brate.

Might even cut off those last 2.

[Browning]

Surely you keep Chris Thompson as well?

But yea, a lot of those are awful.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Surely you keep Chris Thompson as well?

But yea, a lot of those are awful.

I've been burnt so many times by Redskins running backs.

I probably will do it though because the league is 0.5 PPR so he will have some value.

[Gray Fox]

I'm in.

Is there any way for me to see last years draft results?

[Dan]

On the app it comes under activity -> draft & then just change the year.

[Browning]

Why are all the "experts" so high on the Vikings DST this year? Most people have them ranked 2nd behind only the Jaguars.... they were so shit last year (in fantasy, not necessarily in real life) so what has changed?

I'm tempted to trade them away unless I'm missing something.

[Browning]

Just did a mock on Fantasy Pros out of boredom and one of the other teams was called 'Golden Grahams', I'm suing.

Along those lines, I need to find a Hopkins inspired name for my Dynasty team after he caught the pass that won the league last season.

[Pleb]

Got bored so I did an 8 team half PPR mock draft. (https://ibb.co/jMRMoy)

:sherlock:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Only 1 Chiefs player and no Charles? Shameful shit.

[Pleb]

FantasyPros had my mock team down to win the whole league if that was even a thing the mad bastards

[Gray Fox]

I'm assuming the green bar represents the player being got at good value. Agholor is a steal at R15.

Seems like you jumped the gun on a TE there. I'd be hard pressed to take even Gronk in the 4th. There's just so much value out there. Obviously things are different with more teams in the league, but the TE spot isn't like it was 2/3 years ago. Back then there was Gronk and then there was the rest.

[Browning]

Which was even more reason not to draft one early unless you got Gronk. Now there is a realistic reason to do it because Gronk/Kelce/Ertz are all better then playing the crap shoot that is the rest of the position.

[Dan]

QB & TE are both disgustingly deep this year compared to the last few, with a good 20 QBs & 15 TEs that could all be solid starters if needed. Picking the right one, as always, will be the problem, so taking the guy you know is a going to be a stud does still have some advantages.

[Gray Fox]

I'd be happy hopping aboard the Brate train if it came to it.

[Browning]

Brate isn't going to keep the job, Howard will take it. Fuck Brate. And fuck trying to choose between Charles Clay, Trey Burton and Delanie Walker each week. If I can get a proper every week starter at TE, I'd pay the price for it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's going to get derailed this season.

[Gray Fox]

You just wait for that Fitzmagic to come back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fitzmagic will be turning Juice into a fine wine.

[Dan]

We remember that the Bucs just gave Brate a 6 year, big money contract, right? He’ll still be the red zone guy for at least one or two more years - Jameis loves him.

[Dan]

Can we stop the Kamara hype now? (“http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000932612/article/saints-wont-increase-kamaras-carries-with-ingram-out”)

[Browning]

The contract allows them to get out of it for free after 1 more year though. They're clearly using it as insurance in case something doesn't work out with Howard, but when he takes off they'll cut Brate.

[Browning]

My Dynasty draft is under way but we're doing an offline draft. Everyone ensured me they wanted to motor through it as quickly as possible yet the guy with Pick 2 is dragging it out so long (he traded up from Pick 6 about 6 hours ago and hasn't picked yet). I look forward to my one pick in 3 months time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

One of my dynasties is doing an offline one too. I'm not looking forward to it.

[Browning]

It made sense to me because some teams had so few picks (I have 1 after trading my 1st away for Wilson) and it wasn't worth the effort getting everyone together. What I didn't expect is someone to trade up from #6 to #2 and then spend hours trying to trade back down. He has a deadline of 12 hours, but I'm regretting making that so long.

He just made me an offer though....

I give:
Todd Gurley OR Le'Veon Bell (nice to have choices)
Devin Funchess OR Mike Williams
Any other Player on my team (you have to keep the numbers even) OR my 2nd rounder (only pick I have)
My 2019 2nd Rounder

I get:
Christian McCaffrey
Jimmy Graham
Pick #2
His 2019 First Rounder

Hard pass straight away. Not even close.

[Browning]

So there was a team in this league who had a horrible draft. Tom Brady was his round 1 pick in a dynasty for fuck sake. He has, for my money, comfortably the worst team in the league (but somehow finished 3rd) with his starting line up looking like:

Brady
Crabtree, Fitzgerald, Edelman
C.Thompson, D.Lewis
Kelce (his only real asset)
Jordan Reed and Demarco Murray in the flex
Seattle/Dallas DST

And basically fuck all on the bench.

He's just traded Chris Thompson away for Kelvin Benjamin and used the #5 overall pick on Mo Sanu.

Close to booting him.

[Browning]

Been offered the next pick in the draft for Mark Ingram. The pick could see me take: DJ Moore, Calvin Ridley, Ronald Jones or Royce Freeman.

I'm still inclined to stick with the proven talent. Any one think I should take it?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Depends on what your options are at RB/WR.

Ingram is 28, in the final year of his contract and has to serve a 4 game suspension. Running backs have been known to fall off a cliff at 30 too.

[Browning]

RB: Gurley, Bell, Howard, McKinnon, Ingram, Henry
WR: Hopkins, Allen, Adams, Cooper, Watkins, Robinson, Funchess, Shepherd, Mike Williams

Ingram very much is expendable, but I'm not sure any of the remaining rookies is quite enough value to tempt me. Of course if I could trade that pick for someone better (even by including a few fringe players) then that is different, and it's an avenue I'm exploring, but no guarantees on that.

[Gray Fox]

I'd like to take a chance on Ridley personally. I like him especially with the Julio situation not looking all too good. Though this depends. Can you afford to take a shot at the WR? Can the rest of your RB corps carry you if you trade Ingram away and the guy you get doesn't do much?

EDIT: Just seen your team. Keep Ingram for now. Aim to trade for a player you actually want after the draft.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was thinking Moore or Ridley but it's not like your WR's are lacking (and they're all young enough) so yeah.

I'd probably want a bit more with your options.

[Browning]

Well we got through 1 round with 7 RBs and Sanu being taken..... still can't believe Sanu...

Should be someone useful there at 16, hopefully.

[Gray Fox]

Is he all "LOL Sanu for teh bantz" or is he trying but just a bit shit at it?

[Pleb]

Sanu as a round one pick? :D

Are they alright? That's worse than my Jamaal Charles pick.

[Dan]

They're probably going to use him at QB.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Still has a perfect rating.

[Browning]

Sanu as a round one pick? :D

Are they alright? That's worse than my Jamaal Charles pick.

It isn't. This is a rookie/free agent draft so most players aren't there. If picks went according to the Yahoo 2018 rankings, Sanu would have gone in the 3rd round.

Hurns has just gone as the 2nd WR off the board.... Jesus, that's risky, but could pay off. They have no one else to throw to, I guess.

The worst part about Sanu is he was my player, so I could have traded him for that pick. Of course, I wouldn't have, because I never would have thought to offer it, but there we are.

[Browning]

It's going to be stunning if Ridley falls to me at 16. I don't expect it.... but we have 3 more picks to go (Moore has gone).

[Browning]

I was planning to take a RB but the best one left now is probably Aaron Jones. Meanwhile at WR we have Calvin Ridley, Nelson Agholor, Courtland Sutton, Christian Kirk, Chris Godwin or the heroic homecoming of Corey "Todd Gurley" Coleman. It won't be Corey. :( But it's going to be tough to pick between those, even if 2 are taken.

[Pleb]

Where and when did Barkley go?

[Browning]

Where and when did Barkley go?

Number 1, obviously.

Paul Richardson was taken... so only 1 of that list (at worst) will be gone. Any suggestions?

[Gray Fox]

Ridley is going to go the pick before you. Sods law.

[Browning]

Very good chance, although the guy does have more pressing needs than WR. I could see him taking Delanie Walker who shouldn’t be there.

I’m thinking Agholor is the contingency.

[Browning]

As predicted, Delanie Walker went ahead of me.

Calvin Ridley is the only draft pick of the champions :cool:

[Pleb]

Did you get Agholor?

[Browning]

He was there, but I passed on him for Ridley. Agholor then went 2 picks later.

So far the full draft order is:
Barkley, Guice, Penny, Michel, Sanu, Chubb, Freeman, Jones II
Hurns, Moore, Burton, K.Johnson, D.Johnson Jr, Richardson, Walker, Ridley
Kirk, Agholor, A.Miller

Part of me wishes I'd cut the Ravens DST for another pick in the 3rd round, but I just don't get why a middle of the pack fantasy defense like the Vikings is being projected so high. Ultimately it shouldn't matter because I have the Jaguars... but I'll keep both for a while until we know what the Vikings are, and then look to cut/trade one of them.

Sanu aside, I don't think I've hated any pick, but Hurns and Richardson were reaches for sure.

My favourite draft so far is the newcomer of our league. He had pick 2 overall which he traded down (Kenyan Drake and Pick 6 for Pick 2 and his 3rd rounder) so ended up getting Drake/Chubb whereas his trade partner got Guice/Agholor. He then got DJ Moore in the 2nd round. He's doing some good work to fix a not great team (Albeit one that under performed last year).

[Browning]

We finished off Round 3 with Ballage (who?), Gallup, Aaron Jones, Houston and then my first keeper. I'm tempted to try and trade the Ravens DST for a pick and take Sutton... but I don't need him, I would just be stockpiling. He should not be on the board at this stage.

Picking at 16 I was eyeing Godwin if no RBs I liked fell that far and I was happy enough with him, so it's insane that not only did both Ridley and Sutton fall to me, but Sutton is still there.

[Browning]

Blockbuster trade time.... I sold the farm to get my guy:

Gave Up: Kirk Cousins, Sammy Watkins, Jerick McKinnon, Ravens DST
Got: Leonard Fournette and 3 draft picks (rounds 7-9).

Happy with it though. Watkins was my WR5 (I can technically start 5 but with my RBs I always start 3) and Cousins was my QB2 but I'm sure Mahomes/Luck can make up for him. Been negotiating it all day, glad it's done. Someone else tried to muscle in on it offering Stafford, McCaffrey and Jeffrey to the same guy for David Johnson or Barkley so I had to improve my bid slightly (added the Ravens and upped Ingram to McKinnon) to fend him off.

[Dan]

One team had Johnson, Fournette AND Barkley?! :cab:

Not sure I'd trade that much for him but he's definitely the best player in the deal so it's still a win.

[Browning]

Yea. It's an 8 team league so everyone is a bit stacked, but he went Johnson and Fournette in 1 and 2 and then came last so got Barkley. Losing Johnson all year while having DT as your best WR will do that to you, I guess.

I know I've over paid but Watkins wasn't likely to play much for me unless he really hit it out the park and while I liked McKinnon it's a big upgrade at RB. Cousins means nothing to me having got Wilson earlier on. Now to find some scrubs with these 3 picks.

[Browning]

I turned those 3 picks into Corey Coleman (who will be Kareem Hunt soon I'm sure), Crowell and Chris Hogan. Nothing to write home about, but should be solid enough bench options.

Leaves me with:

QB: Wilson, Luck, Mahomes
WR: Hopkins, Allen, Adams, Cooper, Robinson, Funchess, Shepard, Williams, Ridley, Coleman, Hogan
RB: Bell, Gurley, Howard, Ingram, Henry, Fournette, Crowell
TE: Henry, Howard
DST: Jags, Vikings
K: Lutz

Can't say I'm unhappy with that. I completely forgot I had Amari Cooper when I was negotiating the Fournette trade and thought I had offered my WR5... guess he was actually my 6. Even better.

[Dan]

That team is obscene :D

[Browning]

By comparison here is the team Yahoo is projecting to win the league:

QB: Rodgers, Stafford, Carr
WR: Beckham, Jeffrey, Thielen, Hill, Richardson, Agholor, Doctson, Bryant, Sutton
RB: Zeke, Kamara, McCaffrey, Guice, A.Jones, Montgomery, Thompson
TE: Graham, Rudolph, Engram
DST: Denver, Rams
K: Tucker, Zuerlein

I mean, they are easily my biggest threat, but I'd take mine any day of the week.

[Dan]

He’ll kick the fuck out of anyone in a kicker battle. Rest of the team is nowhere close though.

What does the Sanu team look like?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lord Tucker :drool:

He wins.