The EU Referendum thread - sponsored by Harold's YouTube videos

[Jimmy Floyd]

55-45 wasn't that close, and the ongoing division resulted in the SNP winning almost every Westminster seat a few months later, and the total collapse of Scottish Labour.

[Lewis]

They would almost be better cracking on as if nothing has happened, rather than attempting to patronise people and lie about reforming anything.

[Lee]

Populus have it Remain 55 (+7) Leave 45 (nc).

[Magic]

Why are people reading in to polls? They are shite. Got it totally wrong with the independence referendum and breathtakingly wrong at the general election.

[Vim]

I'm going to a discussion later here about the referendum, not that anyone here is actually British. All these students are probably Remain, I've not done much research about this yet, should be fun.

[Magic]

Can't think of anything worse than a bunch of know-it-all philosophy/political students waffling on about why they think they are right above all else.

[Lee]

Why are people reading in to polls? They are shite. Got it totally wrong with the independence referendum and breathtakingly wrong at the general election.

They're good for finding trends, if not final numbers.

[Vim]

Can't think of anything worse than a bunch of know-it-all philosophy/political students waffling on about why they think they are right above all else.

It's organised by people from the bullshit "European Studies" course they have over here. All arguing in Eastern European accents. It's going to be an absolute shitshow, a fun one nonetheless.

[Raoul Duke]

Voted Remain, of course. My entire industry and city will probably go tits up if Brexit happens.

But then again, there might be a massive house price crash :baz:

[niko_cee]

There won't be, and even if there was, unless you have a couple of hundred thousand dollars under your mattress a crash probably wouldn't do you much good.

[Raoul Duke]

:checkit:

[SvN]

I voted remain. There was no queue whatsoever.

[Boydy]

Voted remain.

The polling station here was the busiest I've ever seen it but then I've only been once before in the evening and that was the recent Stormont elections here and they never have a high turnout. Loads of pensioners too. Why the fuck are they there clogging it up in the evening? they had all day, the lazy fucks.

EDIT: Should point out 'busiest I've ever seen it' still isn't all that busy. There were about four people in front of me in the room my ballot box was in.

[Spikey M]

There are mongs using pens so that the vote can't be fixed.

Lucky they aren't annonymous slips that could be burned and replaced with pre-completed ones.

[Reg]

Remain. :halm:

[Mike]

Voted, and as I vote in the local pub I celebrated with a pint of refreshing european larger to celebrate a job well done.

[John]

There are mongs using pens so that the vote can't be fixed.

Lucky they aren't annonymous slips that could be burned and replaced with pre-completed ones.

The same thing happened with the independence referendum. Thousands of outraged words shared thousands of times on Facebook telling people to take their own pen because they'll only be providing pencils in the booth. It was a good way to sniff out first time voters pretending they knew things though.

Voted at about half six. I was the only person in the polling station, which is in a chapel hall, and when the woman was flicking through her address book to cross my name off maybe a quarter of the names were already scored through.

[Magic]

Remember the vote fixing allegations? :D

[Shindig]

Durham looks remain as fuck. One little student gimp with a leave banner that got some boos from other students. The centre of town is blue as you like. I just used the pen in the booth when I went down.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Who is it that is paid to sit there rubbing votes out (in a secret lair away from the main count, which can be seen by everyone) and never blabs about it?

They don't really think these things through.

[John]

Remember the vote fixing allegations? :D

Remember them? They're ongoing. Every post I've seen about the EU referendum from a 'yes' voter has been hashtagged with 'itsafixanyway' or similar, and almost all of those I've spoken to about it in person have said they were considering not bothering because the government had already decided what was happening.

[Yevrah]

Right, work done for the day and home. Just need to get the snacks now to supplement a 3am Dominos and we're good to go.

[Lee]

Not sure whether it's worth a kip now to wake up at about 2am or just to power through. Either way tomorrow is going to be a right shitter.

[Yevrah]

Are you planning on pulling an all nighter and then going in to work after that?

[Jimmy Floyd]

If it looks remotely interesting I'm going to be staying up and maybe stealing an hour or two here and there. Can always go to bed at 7pm tomorrow if I need, and the Koreans love a little kip at their desk through overwork so I'll claim that.

[Lee]

Are you planning on pulling an all nighter and then going in to work after that?

I have a quiet day tomorrow and my two direct bosses are out so I could probably get away with it. I'll see how I feel though. The fall out either way won't be until tomorrow but I'd like to stay up long enough to have a decent idea of which way it's going.

[Yevrah]

I suppose in a general election it's easier to get hold of people to comment on events as they're all there anyway. I'm not expecting anything like a Portillo moment overnight, but it'd be good if the Beeb got round that somehow by getting a few in in the wee small hours.

[Kikó]

I voted remain and most of the people around Islington looked that way (load of stickers on with in). Looked a decent turnout as well.

Loads stuck on the trains coming out of London may not get to vote

[niko_cee]

Pensioners on the tracks.

:drool:

[GS]

Voted leave.

The polling station was empty when I was there, and based on the number of names 'lined out' turnout in my area looked low.

[Lee]

Final predictions then? I'm going 53/47 Remain.

[GS]

54/46 Remain.

I'd be amazed with any leave win, frankly. It would cripple the polling industry forthwith if they got it this wrong again.

[Spikey M]

I voted remain and most of the people around Islington looked that way (load of stickers on with in). Looked a decent turnout as well.

Loads stuck on the trains coming out of London may not get to vote

I was once told the Met Office are experimenting on our weather. :sherlock: #ItsAFix #UseAPen

[SvN]

57-43 Remain is my random guess

[Spikey M]

60/40 Remain.

[Kikó]

60 40 remain in made up land.

[Lewis]

It needs to be more than forty-five so bitter hashtags don't get crossed. #the47

[Kikó]

I was once told the Met Office are experimenting on our weather. :sherlock: #ItsAFix #UseAPen

And that "German shooter". #mossad #falseflag

[GS]

It needs to be more than forty-five so bitter hashtags don't get crossed. #the47

If leave are losing, I'd rather it was a 60/40 'landslide' and the issue is put to bed. Fucking having this again for another six months in a few years' time.

We'll need to tell the Scots to fuck off with another referendum, because two major constitutional referenda in two years is enough.

Cameron's a complete wanker, but regardless of his reasons at least he's let people have their say on these things.

[Byron]

I think 52-48 to Remain. Thus UKIP can strop about it being a fix and stay relevant for another 4 years.

[Spikey M]

And that "German shooter". #mossad #falseflag

Who was that conspiracy bloke who used to pop up on the old board?

[Lewis]

If leave are losing, I'd rather it was a 60/40 'landslide' and the issue is put to bed. Fucking having this again for another six months in a few years' time.

We'll need to tell the Scots to fuck off with another referendum, because two major constitutional referenda in two years is enough.

Cameron's a complete wanker, but regardless of his reasons at least he's let people have their say on these things.

Bollocks. The closer it is, and the more aggro is causes, the better.

[GS]

Bollocks. The closer it is, and the more aggro is causes, the better.

I really don't want to listen to #the49 complain about conspiracies and how 'we woz robbed'. Just fuck that.

If we're losing, let's lose heavily and thus put the fucking issue to bed. Then we can get back to this farce of "trying to reform the EU from the inside" and those of us who know it won't happen can be smug. Quietly.

[Boydy]

Who was that conspiracy bloke who used to pop up on the old board?

Kiko.

[GS]

Kiko.

:D

He'll love that.

[Byron]

I really don't want to listen to #the49 complain about conspiracies and how 'we woz robbed'. Just fuck that.

If we're losing, let's lose heavily and thus put the fucking issue to bed. Then we can get back to this farce of "trying to reform the EU from the inside" and those of us who know it won't happen can be smug. Quietly.

I refuse to believe you could ever be quietly smug.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I want to see Peter Bone sticking the PM's head on a spike. Close it is.

[Shindig]

I really don't want to listen to #the49 complain about conspiracies and how 'we woz robbed'. Just fuck that.

If we're losing, let's lose heavily and thus put the fucking issue to bed. Then we can get back to this farce of "trying to reform the EU from the inside" and those of us who know it won't happen can be smug. Quietly.

Whilst reaping the financial benefits, too. "This is terrible cake ... but I'm still going to eat it."

[P_3]

51-49 Leave. :drool:

[Lewis]

There is no need for conspiracies, but the seethe must go on.

[Boydy]

It'll be exactly equal. Even after all the recounts they have to do. Then the queen will have to decide.

[Kikó]

:D

He'll love that.

I was going to post it myself :D

[Yevrah]

55-45 to remain.

Who's the bird in the glasses on Sky Sports News now?

[Yevrah]

Oh and if this has taught us anything, it's that referendums are a shit way to decide policy. I don't want another one in my lifetime.

[GS]

I enjoyed this one at the start, because it's nice to have a referendum for something that actually matters, but for the last while I've just wanted the fucking thing to be over.

[Magic]

If it's that close can we decimal point the result? :drool:

[Yevrah]

I enjoyed this one at the start, but for the last while I've just wanted the fucking thing to be over.

It's been a complete bollocks.

Both sides lying/avoiding the facts like cunts to a voting population with far too many people in it that are manifestly far too stupid to be deciding something like this.

The death penalty would come back in (in some form) if a referendum was held on that let's not forget.

[GS]

How'd you vote in the end, Yev? Apologies if you've already mentioned it.

I agree the campaigns have been appalling, by the way. I'm not sure if this is just David Cameron's way of winning or just how much contempt the political classes hold the rest of us in.

[Lee]

55-45 to remain.

Who's the bird in the glasses on Sky Sports News now?

There's a point. Where's Isobel Hardman tonight?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The death penalty would come back in (in some form) if a referendum was held on that let's not forget.

No chance. Can you imagine the campaign, it would be the whole of British life against Jim Davidson and Roy 'Chubby' Brown.

[GS]

No chance. Can you imagine the campaign, it would be the whole of British life against Jim Davidson and Roy 'Chubby' Brown.

People may support it in phone / online polls, but once you have the full weight of the political classes repeatedly telling you that you're a heathen, degenerate, intolerant cunt, it's unlikely that few would withstand that sustained barrage of emotional blackmail.

Priti "let's be absolutely clear about this" Patel is pro-death penalty, pretty much cementing the view she shouldn't be allowed near public office again.

[Yevrah]

How'd you vote in the end, Yev? Apologies if you've already mentioned it.

I agree the campaigns have been appalling, by the way. I'm not sure if this is just David Cameron's way of winning or just how much contempt the political classes hold the rest of us in.

I didn't.

I was never going to vote for Remain, but in the end Leave just didn't do enough to convince me that exiting wouldn't lead to economic problems for a significant period of time.

[Yevrah]

You're probably right on the death penalty campaign, but I do question how much the campaigns here have changed anyone's mind.

I met a mate of a mate in the pub the other night who was for the death penalty and there was no convincing him otherwise.

[Magic]

You're probably right on the death penalty campaign, but I do question how much the campaigns here have changed anyone's mind.

I met a mate of a mate in the pub the other night who was for the death penalty and there was no convincing him otherwise.

Lol as if you have any mates.

[GS]

There's a point. Where's Isobel Hardman tonight?

You chancer.

I imagine she'll be doing the rounds on the TV studios.

Who do the BBC have in the studio tonight?

[Yevrah]

Lol as if you have any mates.

Yeah, lol.

[Boydy]

Both sides lying/avoiding the facts like cunts to a voting population with far too many people in it that are manifestly far too stupid to be deciding something like this.

This is really starting to piss me off about politics in general. There should be some sort of qualifying test for a vote.

I don't mind people differing from me as long as they've thought the stuff through and have coherent reasons for it. But this lowest common denominator bullshit we've seen both sides descend to in order to win over a load of thickos is fucking awful.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm 99% convinced that Remain has won now, so my main interest is in what the 'lines to take' are from the government guests on TV. If it's fire and brimstone and let's kill everyone who voted Leave, as it may well be, then I'm out.

Irrelevant Labour can bore off as both of the possible results will mean we need to stop the bankers and invest in our public services.

[Spikey M]

I was going to post it myself :D

I was hoping for a quick 'Lurch' so I could say it was you as well ffs.

[GS]

This is really starting to piss me off about politics in general. There should be some sort of qualifying test for a vote.

I don't mind people differing from me as long as they've thought the stuff through and have coherent reasons for it. But this lowest common denominator bullshit we've seen both sides descend to in order to win over a load of thickos is fucking awful.

It's frustrating as hell, but it's no different to the left blaming everything on "the Tories" (it's the easiest example I have to hand, not an attack on anyone). It's simplistic arguments / solutions for complex issues.

There's no way of avoiding it, because too many people aren't particularly interested in 'reasoned' debate. We're all anoraks, relative to the general populace. I think we forget that sometimes by expecting other people should be as engaged in things as we are.

Short of disenfranchising people, there's not much to be done. It doesn't help that David Cameron, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, successor to Pitt, Gladstone, Disraeli, Churchill and Attlee, considers it fit to tweet his views on Jeremy Clarkson's role on the BBC and what a retired footballer thinks about a serious constitutional matter.


I'm 99% convinced that Remain has won now, so my main interest is in what the 'lines to take' are from the government guests on TV. If it's fire and brimstone and let's kill everyone who voted Leave, as it may well be, then I'm out.

Irrelevant Labour can bore off as both of the possible results will mean we need to stop the bankers and invest in our public services.

Remain have clearly won - it would take monumental fuck-ups in polling and it would be a complete lol-fest when you look at the way the odds on Remain have shortened over the course of the day. There's no way they haven't won, it's a case of what the margin is.

[Yevrah]

This is really starting to piss me off about politics in general. There should be some sort of qualifying test for a vote.

I don't mind people differing from me as long as they've thought the stuff through and have coherent reasons for it. But this lowest common denominator bullshit we've seen both sides descend to in order to win over a load of thickos is fucking awful.

I suppose the party political system at least puts someone who (in theory) isn't a moron in charge of setting policy, whereas this doesn't, it's literally millions of people screaming absolute wank like "I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK" or "STAYING IN WILL SAVE OUR NHS" having a direct influence on the outcome.

It's horrendous.

Not that I agree that there should be a test, but I don't really have an alternative beyond this shit should never happen again.

[Lewis]

No chance. Can you imagine the campaign, it would be the whole of British life against Jim Davidson and Roy 'Chubby' Brown.

'The Institute of Fiscal Studies, who are completely independent of government, have said that stringing Ian Huntley up...'

[GS]

I suppose the party political system at least puts someone who (in theory) isn't a moron in charge of setting policy, whereas this doesn't, it's literally millions of people screaming absolute wank like "I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK" or "STAYING IN WILL SAVE OUR NHS" having a direct influence on the outcome.

It's horrendous.

Not that I agree that there should be a test, but I don't really have an alternative beyond this shit should never happen again.

You definitely need referenda on certain issues. The Good Friday Agreement here would never have had legitimacy without one, for example.

[Yevrah]

You definitely need referenda on certain issues. The Good Friday Agreement here would never have had legitimacy without one, for example.

Fair point.

[GS]

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He could be making it up, of course. Still, you have to laugh.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Could be? Today has been a true smorgasbord of made up stories, led in this morning's Mirror by Kevin Maguire's utter fiction about the niqab woman on a bus speaking Welsh.

[GS]

That was almost certainly sourced from Twitter, as I'm sure I read it days ago.

[Yevrah]

Never mind the words beneath it, if a picture paints a thousand words it's that one.

[Spikey M]

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He could be making it up, of course. Still, you have to laugh.

He looks like absolute shit.

[Yevrah]

I really hope this unofficial exit poll isn't some landslide for Remain, I was hoping things would be interesting until at least 4. Without that I'll only be left with wondering how Dimbleby is going to the toilet under his desk.

[Yevrah]

Ok, so the Beeb aren't even showing that poll. Who has it?

[niko_cee]

I never knew Gibraltar voted in UK elections - do they have an MP? Not sure you can read much into a high turn out there, you'd think it would be 100% remain, seeing as the alternative leaves them a million percent fucked.

[Waffdon]

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noooooo

[Lewis]

YouGov reckon 52/48 to stay in. That should be close enough to wreck the rest of the parliament. Brilliant.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I never knew Gibraltar voted in UK elections - do they have an MP? Not sure you can read much into a high turn out there, you'd think it would be 100% remain, seeing as the alternative leaves them a million percent fucked.

They don't, just in this.

They have their own elections, which I know because my old history teacher at school was once the Leader of their Opposition - and carried on being a schoolteacher here whilst being so.

[niko_cee]

Do they just get to vote because this is a particularly important issue for them? Seems a bit off when you have all those costa del cunts moaning they've not been given their say.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Do they just get to vote because this is a particularly important issue for them? Seems a bit off when you have all those costa del cunts moaning they've not been given their say.

On the basis it's geographically in Europe? I don't know. Do your mob get an MP (don't think so) and can they vote in this?

The Falklands aren't involved in this.

[Lewis]

I've got some Dairy Milk and a bag of those gay pretzels to seethe into. What has everyone else got?

[Magic]

I picked a bad day to diet and go around Sainsburys at half 9 at night. Came away with reduced organic apricots. :(

[Davgooner]

Sky are running with an estimated turnout of 83.7% :|

[SvN]

I've got two pieces of toast and a big bottle of Amstel

[Disco]

Could we not have kept the thread with our own 'exit poll' on?

Anyway, voted Leave and made sure to check the pencil hadn't been rigged by any low country bureaucrats.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sky are running with an estimated turnout of 83.7% :|

That's ridiculous on a number of levels.

[Disco]

Why do they start this shit so early, we now have another couple of hours of pointless filler.

[Boydy]

On the basis it's geographically in Europe? I don't know. Do your mob get an MP (don't think so) and can they vote in this?

The Falklands aren't involved in this.

Are (is? I mean the body of people there but the island itself is singular. I don't know.) the Isle of Man represented in Parliament? It's not, is it? Did they have a say in this?

[SvN]

If that Sky figure is accurate, pile on to 80% of over on Betfair. Currently sitting at 5.6.

[Bartholomert]

Sky are running with an estimated turnout of 83.7% :|

Woah. Maybe social media has made the masses more politically active?

[Disco]

Are (is? I mean the body of people there but the island itself is singular. I don't know.) the Isle of Man represented in Parliament? It's not, is it? Did they have a say in this?

They don't have any representation at Westminster but I'm sure they elect their own government/council.

[Magic]

It was 84 in the Scottish one.

I'm nervous now. Away to sleep but can see a restless night constantly checking phone.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If Leave ends up winning I'll lol quite hard.

[Boydy]

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Nooo, don't ruin the fun.

[Bartholomert]

Is more participation better for leave (since it's the poors who don't usually vote) or bad (because it's the youth who don't usually vote)?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Someone (maybe even on here) said the theory was shit turnout favours leave, good turnout favours remain, and mental turnout favours Leave as you're going into the people who never, ever vote.

Not sure I believe the national turnout can possibly be over 80%.

[Magic]

Is more participation better for leave (since it's the poors who don't usually vote) or bad (because it's the youth who don't usually vote)?

I'd say it's better for remain. The most likely to vote would be those wanting to effect change. A low turnout would have been better for leave surely.

[Lewis]

Has Tom Watson got a Fitbit on? Why?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Even Tom Watson doesn't believe anything Tom Watson says.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm really fucking close to piling on Leave at 10/1 or whatever they currently are. Won't though.

[7om]

Does Dimbleby not brush his teeth anymore or something?

[Waffdon]

I'm really fucking close to piling on Leave at 10/1 or whatever they currently are. Won't though.

Nae chance. Scotland has fucked it.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

How long is it expected to be before the first count in?

[Disco]

How long is it expected to be before the first count in?

Another hour or two.

[Davgooner]

Sunderland should be in 12/12.30.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Bloody 4.30am alarm.

[Jimmy Floyd]

'Clive Myrie's in Basildon for us'.

Poor bloke.

[Disco]

This is a hilariously pointless programme without any actual results, they even projected their zero results on the outside of the building earlier.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The result graphic they appear to have at the bottom is completely meaningless as well, it doesn't matter how many councils vote leave/remain.

[Disco]

The result graphic they appear to have at the bottom is completely meaningless as well, it doesn't matter how many councils vote leave/remain.

Isn't that just to show how many counts are in? I'm looking forward to I'm Jeremy Vine's graph with just a single result on it.

[Yevrah]

The result graphic they appear to have at the bottom is completely meaningless as well, it doesn't matter how many councils vote leave/remain.

On that, I'd assumed when each of the 382 voting centres are announced they'd announce the actual result. If they're not going to and we're only going to get a Remain or Leave then I may as well go to bed until 4.

[Yevrah]

How are all these wankers coming out and saying that x has edged it? Other than shitting the bed, what the fuck are they basing that on?

[Shindig]

I feel bad for 24 hour news networks at this time. They need another event of nothingness to cut to. Are the democrats still having a pyjama party?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm now convinced Leave will do a lot better than the polls, and maybe even win.

[Lewis]

Douglas Carswell appears to have kicked off a UKIP leadership challenge.

[Boydy]

Why is Carswell's mouth like that?

It always annoys me.

[Jimmy Floyd]

On that, I'd assumed when each of the 382 voting centres are announced they'd announce the actual result. If they're not going to and we're only going to get a Remain or Leave then I may as well go to bed until 4.

They will announce the result, the BBC graphics are just wank as they currently stand.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Douglas Carswell appears to have kicked off a UKIP leadership challenge.

Hasn't he been doing that every day since he joined them?

To be fair to him, his UKIP would be a lot more palatable than the current one (and get no votes).

[Bartholomert]

Are exit polls banned in the UK?

[Disco]

No, they just don't seem to have done one, there was no-one at my polling station when usually there is.

[Shindig]

They don't do them for referendums because they are so rare.

[Lee]

Yeah I find the apparent confidence that Remain has won a little odd. We know nothing yet. Fuck knows what Farage is at.

[Shindig]

Its just going to be five hours of Jimmy losing and regaining hope like The McCanns.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Its just going to be five hours of Jimmy losing and regaining hope like The McCanns.

I'm quite happy with either result, to be honest. I don't buy all the doom and gloom either way. Things will continue largely as before.

[Boydy]

Why am I even bothering to watch this at the minute? I'm going to watch The Wire.

[Shindig]

I'm quite happy with either result, to be honest. I don't buy all the doom and gloom either way. Things will continue largely as before.

That's the spirit. That kid's never coming back, but you've got the memories.

[Lee]

Christ, the Remain lot going about saying how confident they are almost makes me want to be on the losing side.

[Davgooner]

Farage's mates in the City, who have the major exit polls, have convinced him to concede and head to the bar.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Tory line to take is even shitter than I thought. Every MP tweeting it simultaneously.

[7om]

Why are they cutting away to the news just to repeat the shit from the election broadcast?

[Lewis]

Them 823 must be right legends.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Which 823 Gibraltarians want to Leave? They'll be monkey food by tomorrow morning.

[Lee]

The rumour is it's 60/40 to Leave in Sunderland. That would be Leave winning overall, surely?

[Lewis]

Didn't we all (me and Floyd) get excited about above-average swings to the Conservatives up there in 2010?

[Jimmy Floyd]

They have their own rules up there. If Swindon goes big Leave, then we're in business. Also 62-38 sounds wildly out to me.

[7om]

Farage was on a roll before they cut him off there.

[Lee]

If it's big for Leave in Sunderland and narrow for Remain in Newcastle then we're leaving.

[Yevrah]

This fluffy haired useless professor (I don't know how 2015 didn't sink him) thinks a marginal win for remain in Newcastle wouldn't be good news for remain overall.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If it's big for Leave in Sunderland and narrow for Remain in Newcastle then we're leaving.

I think the polling industry is about to get cunted again.

[Yevrah]

Carswell is definitely gunning for Farage here.

[Pleb]

I reckon we're leaving after Newcastle/Sunderland.

[7om]

Paddy Ashdown's hat getting a mention has made my night.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Pantsdown is ten pints deep.

[Kikó]

Good cricket score.

[Yevrah]

It's warming up nicely now. :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

What I'll say against the current LEAVE tide is that I reckon London/Scotland could be monstrously big wins for REMAIN. Divided country.

[Davgooner]

The Pound falling quite sharply agaisnt the Dollar...

:nodd:

[Pleb]

Well shit :drool:

[Lewis]

That is a bit tight.

[Kikó]

Yikes. We're leaving.

[7om]

Almost 50-50 in Newcastle!

[Lee]

Leave have got this. And quite comfortably.

[Yevrah]

Many more results like that and we can chuck the 'expert's' analysis in the bin and I'll get the spreadsheet out.

[Yevrah]

Leave have got this. And quite comfortably.

Why?

Because the pollsters got Newcastle's split wrong?

[Lewis]

Look at poll man frantically covering his arse.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Many more results like that and we can chuck the 'expert's' analysis in the bin and I'll get the spreadsheet out.

The experts are in all sorts of trouble here.

Farage PM by tomorrow night.

[7om]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Cameron household tonight.

[Davgooner]

Why have Sky called Sunderland as IN?

Fucking idiots.

[Kikó]

Orkney on it.

[Lee]

Why?

Because the pollsters got Newcastle's split wrong?

Newcastle is the sort of place Remain needs to be winning relatively comfortably.

[Smiffy]

.....

[Samadini]

Good cricket score.

How are we still losing wickets?

[Yevrah]

Newcastle is the sort of place Remain needs to be winning relatively comfortably.

Based on what the pollster's think?

You can see where I'm going with this...

[Kikó]

Typical collapse.

[Lee]

Based on what the pollster's think?

You can see where I'm going with this...

Yeah.

Well, based on demographics. Lots of students and graduates; should be prime Remain territory.

[Lewis]

Based on what the pollster's think?

You can see where I'm going with this...

Would you say you've had enough of experts?

[Pleb]

This is escalating quickly.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Newcastle wasn't THAT bad for Remain. They wanted to be a bit better but it wasn't going over 55.

[7om]

Curtis needs putting out to pasture if he gets shown up twice in a row.

[Yevrah]

You can see that poll man's entire life's work shitting out of his ears.

[Disco]

The delay on these interviews is glorious, highlight of the night so far.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Curtis needs putting out to pasture if he gets shown up twice in a row.

Curtice is a don. It's Peter Kellner you're thinking of.

[Lee]

Curtis needs putting out to pasture if he gets shown up twice in a row.

His exit poll got it spot on last year. And he has been cautioning against Remain optimism for a couple of days. Curtice isn't the polling companies.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Newcastle wasn't THAT bad for Remain. They wanted to be a bit better but it wasn't going over 55.

Curious to see how it compares to the other 40 most likely 'remains' on Jeremy Vines diagram.

[niko_cee]

On the basis it's geographically in Europe? I don't know. Do your mob get an MP (don't think so) and can they vote in this?


No, we have our own government (so we set our own taxes!) but I think I could have voted in this as I have lived in the UK sufficiently recently and been registered there. I would have had to apply though, I'm not part of the default electorate.

[7om]

His exit poll got it spot on last year. And he has been cautioning against Remain optimism for a couple of days. Curtice isn't the polling companies.

There was one knob who got shown up last year, wasn't there?

[Davgooner]

Curtice is a disgusting cunt who needs shooting.

[Lewis]

His exit poll got it spot on last year. And he has been cautioning against Remain optimism for a couple of days. Curtice isn't the polling companies.

Didn't the exit poll merely make the Conservatives the largest party? I'm sure it was still about twenty seats out (and missed the majority).

[Yevrah]

Would you say you've had enough of experts?

Proper experts (in things that actually take years of understanding and can be quantified properly) fine, but 'professors' using dodgy statistical modelling and IN BUSINESS wankers can fuck right off.

[Lee]

Didn't the exit poll merely make the Conservatives the largest party? I'm sure it was still about twenty seats out (and missed the majority).

That's true, actually. Much closer than the polls, still.

[Smiffy]

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[Disco]

Hell of a harline on this SNP lass, Baron Corbin take note.

[Yevrah]

Why does the graphic show 3/382 declared?

[Disco]

Why does the graphic show 3/382 declared?

Three counts/areas declared.

[Yevrah]

Ah, I missed Orkney while making a cuppa.

[Boydy]

Why does it say 3/382 declared? It's only 2 isn't it?

EDIT: I see. I hadn't refreshed the page. Missed it for the same reason too.

[Disco]

Gibraltar, Orkney, and Newcastle.

[Pleb]

This is getting tight.

[Browning]

It's 4 now.

[Lewis]

I only bought enough shitty food for a three/four effort. If it's tight and I'm going through to breakfast then I'm going to have to raid the freezer.

[Smiffy]

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[Davgooner]

Holy shit.

Cheerio lads.

[Kikó]

Holy moly.

[Disco]

Someone sort out Dimbles mic.

[Lewis]

Didn't Sam Allardyce declare for leave? I bet he carried thousands round there with him.

[Pleb]

Holy shit.

[Yevrah]

Hang on, was Sunderland meant to be a remain?

[Pleb]

Yes.

[Davgooner]

Leave by 6/7% I saw projected. They've donned it by 23%.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hang on, was Sunderland meant to be a remain?

Par (for what it's worth) was said to be 53-47 or thereabouts to Leave.

[Smiffy]

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[Kikó]

I think the polls have completely underestimated the leave sentiment.

[Yevrah]

London and the South is going to smash it for remain, so I guess we'll see.

Very curious to see Oxford, it should be a massive win for remain, so if it isn't, I'm on Lee's boat.

[Smiffy]

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[Jimmy Floyd]

I think the polls have completely underestimated the leave sentiment.

What they've done is they've fucked up the turnout, if Leave wins it will be propelled by people who don't vote normally and so aren't in the model. Those non-voters Corbyn is always going on about :cool:

I'm not convinced it will, I think London will be much more REMAIN than forecast.

[Smiffy]

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[Yevrah]

How's your 10/1 looking now Jim?

[Jimmy Floyd]

How's your 10/1 looking now Jim?

In the fictional world where I backed that, I'm greening out right now. Tight as, this.

[7om]

7 cents off pound sterling in a matter of minutes :drool:

[Kikó]

What they've done is they've fucked up the turnout, if Leave wins it will be propelled by people who don't vote normally and so aren't in the model. Those non-voters Corbyn is always going on about :cool:

I'm not convinced it will, I think London will be much more REMAIN than forecast.

Agreed. I think London will be a strong remain (70%) and a number of areas in Scotland as well. Then we both decide to be independent.

[Yevrah]

I never understood the logic behind linking the turnout to the outcome. If we did this every 5 years then fine, but we don't.

[Spikey M]

:|

[Boydy]

My mate said something about London being polled at 57% remain the other day. If that's right, if won't be anywhere near high enough.

[Kikó]

The pound has dropped 5% on the last result as well.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My mate said something about London being polled at 57% remain the other day. If that's right, if won't be anywhere near high enough.

It should be higher than that, although 'London' does including Havering etc which will side with Leave.

[Yevrah]

Oh and lols for the seethe on the announcer's face in Sunderland when she had to read out the massive margin of victory for leave. I can only imagine how that's going to be replicated across people who actually campaigned against it.

The absolute clusterfuck of what we do next if Leave do win is rapidly dawning on me.

[Boydy]

Betfair Exchange's odds have gone back up a bit in the last ten minutes. Was at 3.8 or so but it's now at 3.15

[Smiffy]

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[Boydy]

Oh and lols for the seethe on the announcer's face in Sunderland when she had to read out the massive margin of victory for leave. I can only imagine how that's going to be replicated across people who actually campaigned for it.

The absolute clusterfuck of what we do next if Leave do win is rapidly dawning on me.

The negotiations for leaving will drag on for ages and we'll be sick of hearing about it all in the news for the next two years. Avoiding that was as good a reason as any to vote remain.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The absolute clusterfuck of what we do next if Leave do win is rapidly dawning on me.

After the initial spaz out, naff all will happen. That's the beauty of it.

Peter Kellner predicts 55% to Remain, so more good news for Leave there.

[Lewis]

Oh and lols for the seethe on the announcer's face in Sunderland when she had to read out the massive margin of victory for leave. I can only imagine how that's going to be replicated across people who actually campaigned against it.

The absolute clusterfuck of what we do next if Leave do win is rapidly dawning on me.

I thought that. She was almost in tears, so you knew it was a good one.

[Kikó]

Oh and lols for the seethe on the announcer's face in Sunderland when she had to read out the massive margin of victory for leave. I can only imagine how that's going to be replicated across people who actually campaigned against it.

The absolute clusterfuck of what we do next if Leave do win is rapidly dawning on me.

Well the currency is crashing which is fucking up affording my wedding in Portugal. Come on remain.

[Smiffy]

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[Jimmy Floyd]

There are some proper chimp outs on Twitter (whose superb election record looks set to continue). Relax, chaps, it's only the north east. Civilisation will save you.

[Yevrah]

What fucked up requirement is leading to this latest news bullshit continually interrupting everything?

[Lee]

Thank fuck I got myself some Euros today.

[7om]

We know counting is underway, Rita, we're all sitting here watching the fucking results.

[Disco]

And now we go outside where we've projected WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW on the side of the building.

[Yevrah]

We know counting is underway, Rita, we're all sitting here watching the fucking results.

There must be something forcing them to do this. Like BBC3's/ITV2's 60 second news that nobody who tuned into those channels would want to be watching.

[Boydy]

And now we go outside where we've projected WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW on the side of the building.

:D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Isabel Hardman:


There is deep trepidation, swearing and talk of whisky among Labour MPs in the North tonight as they watch how their local counts are going. Something seismic is happening to the Labour vote, which is going to have serious effects whether or not Britain votes to leave. Labour MPs are wondering whether they have been totally ‘fucked’ by this referendum. They are likely to bleed votes to Ukip and the Tories in seats formerly considered their heartlands as a result of having campaigned for Remain and therefore giving their constituents the impression that they no longer understand them or appreciate their worries about immigration.

Tony's chickens finally coming home to roost.

[Yevrah]

I'm going to have that Islamist poppy nutter's name and face imprinted on my brain by the time tonight's out.

[Kikó]

The news breaks are probably so they can have a piss.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Ah, Angela Eagle. Finally some charisma.

[Lewis]

Tony's chickens finally coming home to roost.

Chickens which were bred for a carbonara, but might now end up in a basket.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Chickens which were bred for a carbonara, but might now end up in a basket.

Bisto gravy could be on the way back. And the PG Tips monkeys.

Angela Eagle has just told all working class voters '... and not blaming the Tory government, which is what they should be doing'. Fucking hell Labour. Take five.

[Boydy]

Chickens which were bred for a carbonara, but might now end up in a basket.

You don't put chicken in a fucking carbonara. Jesus.

[7om]

I'd personally love to see Iraq and Syria join the EU post-British exit.

[Yevrah]

We might even get the Del Monte man back. :drool:

[Lewis]

And golliwogs.

That was pretty special from Angela Eagle. So why are Labour so distant from its voters? Because they're gullible and racist. Oh right.

[Kikó]

Our coffee will go back to being shite.

[Jimmy Floyd]

And golliwogs.

That was pretty special from Angela Eagle. So why are Labour so distant from its voters? Because they're gullible and racist. Oh right.

I couldn't work out if it was the mask slipping, or a full on seethe, or both.

Fucking hell the scenes if Leave wins this.

[Smiffy]

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