U.S. Presidential Election 2016 (Sponsored by Betty Croker's Hamburger Helper)

[Kikó]

He takes pretty bold monetary moves when he believes in something. He runs a proptech start up so I'm hoping he's got the reserves if it does go Pete Tong.

[Queenslander]

Gave me chills.

Edit: Good news all around if wins.

[Don]

No one is here, Queenie. No one. Gambling running riot in lockdown.

[Queenslander]

No one is here, Queenie. No one. Gambling running riot in lockdown.

I can imagine.

Our Poker Machine rooms are open untill 4am in every pub in Brisbane. They stop serving drink between 1am and 2am but you can lose your hard earned or dole every night untill 4am.

$293 million lost on Poker Machines alone in the month of July 2020.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Taking a tentative look into American twitter, it really is terrifyingly bad. Puts our own idea of 'divisive' into perspective, the Leave/Remain fight is handbags at dawn in comparison. The Trump lot are loudmouth as fuck, I slightly fear for some of their mental states if Sleepy Joe wins.

[Don]

I've really fucked up with not sneaking in a trip to the Turkish supermarket, I'd suck numerous dicks for a bag of salted sunflower seeds :(

[Kikó]

ffs Taz :D

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Trump is clearly a helmet, but I must admit, part of me wants him to win just so I can get the popcorn out for the fallout.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've really fucked up with not sneaking in a trip to the Turkish supermarket, I'd suck numerous dicks for a bag of salted sunflower seeds :(

Imagine what you'd do for something nice.

[Bernanke]

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Fox viewers are apparently socialists.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That's from their exit poll isn't it? Fox viewers probably want to put immigrants on the menu at Wendy's.

[Boydy]

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Fox viewers are apparently socialists.

Bernie would have won.

[Don]

My word I fucked up further not saving extra in the tank for Katty Kay :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bernie would have won.

Based on that stuff I think the Lib Dems would win every UK election since their inception. People vote for brands and not policies

[Yevrah]

Right, I'm on.

No snacks so we're relying on Dominos abusing minimum wage workers into the early hours, but other than that all good.

This coverage is not surprisingly more dull compared to the UK so far.

[Don]

My word I fucked up further not saving extra in the tank for Katty Kay :drool:

I take this back, she's a fucking shambles and can't stop hmm-ing.

Start fucking announcing shit cause this filler is dire. At least have some mad Republican nutters on ffs.

[Manc]

Here we go!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trump 11-0.

[Don]

Andrew lad get your fucking hands off her, you sly dog.

[Queenslander]

Fox has got 16 - 8 to Biden

[Don]

My sources tell me Biden has taken many suburbs that Hillary lost in Kentucky. Everyone round Kiko's mate's for jagers and hookers.

[Queenslander]

The Austistic bloke we use for our elections has predicted 190 - 77 so far to Biden.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Joe still 1.46 if anyone wants to ride the midnight train to Georgia.

[Bernanke]

https://i.imgur.com/LeEZWKj.png

Kanye is gonna take it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fox has Georgia to Biden by a big margin.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

£100 on Sleepy Joe.

[Boydy]

Joe still 1.46 if anyone wants to ride the midnight train to Georgia.

Stuck the rest of my betfair balance (£25.10) on him at 1.47

[Bernanke]

Biden has atrocious numbers in Miami compared to Clinton.

[Kikó]

Cancel the speedboat.

[Don]

Lads, listen to David James ffs, you absolute addicts.

[-james-]

Florida is Trump's. Biden evens by 1am.

[Boydy]

He's drifted out to 1.61 now :uhoh:

[Don]

Fucking hell, I ain't getting no sleep am I :happycry:

[Jimmy Floyd]

He'll be back in later.

I'm not putting any more money on this but for someone who really knew what they were doing, you could make an absolute killing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Florida is Trump's. Biden evens by 1am.

Fox is saying Florida is still Biden's right now (albeit narrowly).

[Jimmy Floyd]

Trump will get Florida. NC and Georgia the ones to watch

[Queenslander]

Our Americans are saying Trump wins Florida.

[Smjffy]

https://i.ibb.co/xzQCkdH/El8-EQs-SWo-AYI8-O6.png

:|

[Pepe]

Something else. :D

[-james-]

Fox is saying Florida is still Biden's right now (albeit narrowly).

Pre Panhandle vote. They'll come in big for Don.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1.73 on Betfair's Sportsbook :uhoh:

My arsehole is getting twitchy.

[-james-]

Follow the exchange, not the sportsbook. Sportsbook is just a Paddy Power skin.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I would be doubling down now if I had any more money. Not many Cubans in Pittsburgh

[Queenslander]

We had an ASIO bloke talking quite sensibly about how difficult Trump has been in communication with us and other allies then the Trump lady tried to talk over him despite it not being a 3 person conversation. Instantly cut her feed then fact checked her bullshit. :drool:

[Boydy]

Follow the exchange, not the sportsbook. Sportsbook is just a Paddy Power skin.

It's 1.73 on the exchange too.

[Yevrah]

Biden is now 1.73.

What the fook is going on?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1.78 on the Exchange :uhoh:

[Yevrah]

Looks like Trump's won Florida.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1.92, holy shit.

[-james-]

It's 1.73 on the exchange too.

Yeah every bookie will just track the exchange. Exchange just has finer resolution.

Current prices seem a very predictable but exaggerated overreaction to Florida.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He'll need to lose in a white place to go outside evens.

Can see him losing the golf cart vote i.e. Arizona as well as Florida. However, Mexicans are not Cubans.

[Yevrah]

He'll need to lose in a white place to go outside evens.

Are you still convinced Biden's got it? Double your money almost if so.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I have plenty tied up in this already so not putting any more in, but if I were Mr Moneybags I would be printing money right now and putting it all on Biden.

If I'm wrong and Donald wins then it's the end for political polling, by which I don't mean 'ooh they got it wrong again', I mean everyone is fired and the industry collapses in flames.

[Queenslander]

Mitch McConnell retains

[John Arne]

Checking in.

I wonder whether all these polling companies just hang around University Campuses in Vermont.

[Queenslander]

The Sassy ASIO bloke just lolled at all the Democrats rallying around War Criminal George Bush while criticising Trump in the same breath.

Top banter.

[-james-]

Texas going blue. :drool:

[John Arne]

What station are we all watching it on? I'm currently on Sky News, but I see everybody has a stream. Unfortunately, can't get a legit BBC stream...

https://gyazo.com/2bac4a4d4c9dde276f020931a1dc934a.jpeg

[John Arne]

Link to stream?

[Queenslander]

New California

[Jimmy Floyd]

One thing that always seems weird to me in these elections is that the west is still voting while eastern results are coming in, but I guess it's unavoidable.

I'm not watching any stream, just have 100 pseph sites up like a loser.

[Don]

Biden looking strong, I'm out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1.55 :drool:

[Yevrah]

Biden back to 1.57.

[Yevrah]

1.44

[Mellberg]

Florida means fuck all until it's declared. In 2000 the news was all over the shop as the count shifted back and forth. Bush was 100,000 ahead in Florida, Gore conceded the presidency and then withdrew that when it turned out there was nothing in it. If Biden is close to evens get on.

What time is Lord Buckethead on?

[Mellberg]

Whoops. Nevermind.

[Queenslander]

ABC update 203 143

[Mellberg]

Has to be said, if Trump loses there will be a tinge of sadness. I know he's deranged and quite clearly dangerous, but he's been fantastic entertainment over the last four years.

[Yevrah]

Has to be said, if Trump loses there will be a tinge of sadness. I know he's deranged and quite clearly dangerous, but he's been fantastic entertainment over the last four years.

He won't be shying away from the public limelight and imagine the shit he could get up to as ex-president.

[Mellberg]

True. He's not exactly gonna go and live on his Texan ranch. Fetch me the popcorn.

[Spoonsky]

Looks like there's a pretty decent chance that white suburban voters will deliver the election to Biden despite Trump's Latino-driven surge. I don't even...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Williamson County in Texas looks like it will be blue for the first time since 1976.

Trump won by 10 points 4 years ago.

[Boydy]

I'm still seeing 1.79 on the Betfair exchange.

[Queenslander]

That Conway mong said that Trump is due to speak shortly

[Boydy]

That Conway mong said that Trump is due to speak shortly

To cast doubt on it and call his goons out onto the streets. Come on civil war. :drool:

[Queenslander]

To cast doubt on it and call his goons out onto the streets. Come on civil war. :drool:

Here we go!

[Yevrah]

I'm still seeing 1.79 on the Betfair exchange.

Yeah, Biden's drifted out again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Looks like there's a pretty decent chance that white suburban voters will deliver the election to Biden despite Trump's Latino-driven surge. I don't even...

What is he saying to Latinos that they're liking?

[Queenslander]

Just Cubans not Mexicans.

I assume all he would say is Castro over and over.

[Bernanke]

What is he saying to Latinos that they're liking?

Mostly Cubans, so hard-lining on Castro is big selling point.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Castro's dead!

Maybe people are a LOT simpler than I think they are, in a nice way.

EDIT: I forgot there's another Castro. We don't hear anything about Cuba over here.

[mugbull]

Cubans are hardcore Republicans. Probably more Republican than the Ku Klux Klan demographic

[Queenslander]

Good to see 60 year old Aussie boomers trolling the ABC about American politics on Facebook and Instagram. :happycry:

[John Arne]

Cubans are hardcore Republicans. Probably more Republican than the Ku Klux Klan demographic

Same for the Viets in America. Most of them are hardcore bible bashers, and therefore vote Republican.

[Boydy]

Biden at 1.99 now on exchange.

[-james-]

Heck.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Iceberg ahoy

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

2.4 :uhoh:

Kiko's mate has picked up a blade.

[Bernanke]

Is that just a reaction to Texas going red? I don't see the numbers that indicate Don just became favourite.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If it's a reaction to Texas going red then the market is clueless, they should be looking at Ohio.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Bernanke]

If it's a reaction to Texas going red then the market is clueless, they should be looking at Ohio.

But Ohio was never expected to be a tipping point state even in a landslide, and if anything the trends there are favoring the Dems.

[Smjffy]

I have a really uneasy feeling in my tummy.

[Bernanke]

Just saw 2.6 for Joe on Betfair. Wow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

2.94, the fuck?

[Yevrah]

Didn't expect to click on the Betfair tab I have open and see Trump favourite.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Biden was just at 3.05.

[Boydy]

Almost 2/1 for Biden now. Christ.

[Bernanke]

I'm really, really curious what these markets are seeing right now. Another bookie is moving the same way.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Absolute bloodbath, somebody must know something about Pennsylvania or Ohio.

I've cut my losses, I'll still win overall if Biden pulls it but I'm not willing to sit here at 2.30am and watch a train wreck in slow motion. Now to put the BBC on and watch them lose their minds :drool:

[Yevrah]

I've still got the Beeb on and haven't really seen anything that would indicate that, so what do they know?

Are other networks releasing less confirmed results?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've still got the Beeb on and haven't really seen anything that would indicate that, so what do they know?

Are other networks releasing less confirmed results?

Yes.

Fox News has Biden 129 to Trump 94.

[Yevrah]

Yes.

Fox News has Biden 129 to Trump 94.

Yeah, but unless those numbers include swing states they don't mean much more than the Beeb are saying.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The confirmed results are irrelevant, what matters is the following states:

Ohio
Pennsylvania
Arizona
Michigan
Wisconsin
Minnesota

Joe needs, I think, five of those six.

[Yevrah]

The confirmed results are irrelevant, what matters is the following states:

Ohio
Pennsylvania
Arizona
Michigan
Wisconsin
Minnesota

Joe needs, I think, five of those six.

That assumes Trump has Florida, right?

[Queenslander]

Wisconsin and Minnesota to Trump is my guess.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Incidentally I think the current nearly 3 for Biden is insanely high.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That assumes Trump has Florida, right?

He has Florida, he has Georgia, he almost certainly has North Carolina.

If JB somehow turns NC you can disregard the above.

[Mellberg]

I did the Guardian election predictor the other day and gave Trump Florida. He still won having taken, as Jimmy points out, I think five of the six key states. That was simply based on increased difference in the polls compared to the fine margins of victory in 2016. I've just had Biden @ 3.1 on Betfair.

Jump on boys.

[Boydy]

Stuck another £20 on Biden at 2.8

[Yevrah]

Pardon my ignorance Jim, but how many of those states did Trump win last time?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Stuck another £20 on Biden at 2.8

I did so at 2.5 when the rise was happening.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Pardon my ignorance Jim, but how many of those states did Trump win last time?

All bar Minnesota.

[John Arne]

Some knobhead on Sky News claiming that if Trump wins he will "enter a state of mourning and then put together plans to leave the country, and move to a more democratic society".

No, you won't.

[Yevrah]

All bar Minnesota.

So it's polling telling us he won't win all of them or enough of them, again?

Haven't we been here before....

[Jimmy Floyd]

Just turned on the BBC and the coverage is unwatchable, complete embarrassment, did they even do any research between them?

[Jimmy Floyd]

So it's polling telling us he won't win all of them or enough of them, again?

Haven't we been here before....

Polling tells us Joe will win all six, and it also tells us he'll win Florida, North Carolina...

Donald still has to pull a shock result somehow to win it.

[Boydy]

The BBC coverage is pretty shit. Apparently CNN is good but I can't get it on my tv and I'm using my laptop to post/bet/read news sites. Is Sky any good?

[Yevrah]

Polling tells us Joe will win all six, and it also tells us he'll win Florida, North Carolina...

Donald still has to pull a shock result somehow to win it.

It'd only be a shock versus what the polls have said though, polls which don't seem to work very well for much in Politics both here and across the pond since 2016.

[Bernanke]

It'd only be a shock versus what the polls have said though, polls which don't seem to work very well for much in Politics both here and across the pond since 2016.


The polling errors on state level in 2016 were bad, but this would be orders of magnitudes worse.

[Yevrah]

And if they got Florida wrong, why are all of the rest right?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

3.7...

[Jimmy Floyd]

Right, I'm out.

https://i.ibb.co/8jWX09K/bidentrump.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Suspect this will end up being a much better result than the one had I gone to bed.

[-james-]

Polls fully in the bin after tonight, then.

[Pepe]

:harold:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Polls fully in the bin after tonight, then.

Got to hand it to them, I didn't think they would be WORSE than 2016.

God I am looking forward to when UK Twitter wakes up.

[John Arne]

North Carolina :drool:

https://gyazo.com/a52d8195a56d18173cfb8f00031a303d.jpeg

[Queenslander]

Australian Broadcast Corporation has it 212-109 Biden

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Australian Broadcast Corporation has it 212-109 Biden

They've clearly had a few too many.

[Queenslander]

They feel comfortable calling states early for some reason.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Biden at 4.7 on Betfair now.

Jesus.

[Pepe]

Time to go sleep. See you all tomorrow for the lolfest.

[Gray Fox]

Looking good for Biden in Arizona. There's hope yet.

[Queenslander]

They've clearly had a few too many.

https://i.ibb.co/Z2Ln75Q/Screenshot-20201104-131429-Facebook.jpg (https://ibb.co/6Xn3LzK)

[Jimmy Floyd]

You'd think the fact that the 'right' consistently outperforms the polls right across the anglosphere (and possibly beyond) might teach these people something, but of course it doesn't.

Right, bedtime at last.

[Yevrah]

You'd think the fact that the 'right' consistently outperforms the polls right across the anglosphere (and possibly beyond) might teach these people something, but of course it doesn't.

Right, bedtime at last.

That sounds like a white flag. You given up any hope now?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Right, I'm out.

https://i.ibb.co/8jWX09K/bidentrump.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Suspect this will end up being a much better result than the one had I gone to bed.


That sounds like a white flag. You given up any hope now?

I'd say so.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That sounds like a white flag. You given up any hope now?

Yep, Donaldinho has got it done.

Weirdly, although all my instincts tell me I want Biden to win, Trump winning is probably better for my beloved home nation of Great Britain.

[Smjffy]

Just stuck a fiver on Trump. I've had such a jinxed year that it pretty much guarantees Biden as the next president. If not, I'm £1.66 richer.

[John Arne]

https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/8834718-16x9-xlarge.jpg?v=2

[Boydy]

Have all you fannies gone to bed?

[John Arne]

I'm still here. Lol'ing at the Guardians outright refusal to even suggest that Trump is in with a chance.

[John Arne]

https://gyazo.com/5a0dece6072c208e649139e6d4d4c970.jpeg

[Yevrah]

I'm here. Looking like legal wrangle is back in the race.

[John Arne]

It's coming back to Biden. 5/4

[Queenslander]

Yep off to the stacked Supreme Court.

RIP RBG

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I tried going to sleep but couldn't.

Starting to get spicy now.

[John Arne]

Biden takes Arizona.

Edit: According to Fox. AP not yet called it.

[Yevrah]

This chap is the best bit of the BBC show by a mile.

[Yevrah]

Almost neck and neck in the betting now.

The Mooch on the Beeb.

[Boydy]

Quite like him after watching a bit of that The Trump Show on iPlayer.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think Sleepy Joe has it. Just.

Fox News has Biden at 223. Let's assume he holds Nevada, Hawaii and Minnesota that takes him to 243 add the extra from Nebraska to go to 244.

I think he then takes 2 of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania which would put him over the edge. Could take the second bit of Maine too for an extra 1.

[Yevrah]

The 269 all isn't actually that unlikely now, is it?

[Queenslander]

Democrats picking up +1 in the Senate

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/forecast-president.html?action=click&auth=login-google&context=storyline_menu_recirc&module=styln-elections-2020&pgtype=Article&region=TOP_BANNER&state=default

NYT has gone from Trump 90% to take Georgia to Joe at 62% now.

They have NC drifting in now too.

[Boydy]

Who up.

Biden making a statement soon. Probably a "let's wait and get all the votes counted" to pre-empt anything sneaky from Trump.

[Queenslander]

237 210 to Biden on Fox

[Yevrah]

The longer this night goes on the more I'm on Don's wavelength when it comes to Katty Kay.

[Yevrah]

Trump would have been lambasted for coming out with this shit.

Saying you're on track to win at this stage, when it's as close as it is, should not be happening.

[Yevrah]

And now Trump's upped the ante.

Shambles.

[Boydy]

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Uh oh.

[Boydy]

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He tweeted this at first with 'Poles' instead of 'Polls'. Then he tweeted that version and deleted the old one. Lol.

[Don]

This is scenes. Mon civil war.

[Giggles]

Are all you mad cunts still up?

[Boydy]

I was about to go to bed but then Biden was making a statement and then Trump tweeted so now I'm still up waiting to see if the civil war kicks off.

[Don]

I left my bedroom heater on and woken up at 5am with all body moisture dried up like my mother's menopausal vaginal passage but what a touch. We out here now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hang on, why have I woken up again for work (after my optimised 2.5 hours sleep) and Sleepy Joe is suddenly having a chance in Georgia? Stupid yanks, I wanted a full day's hand-wringing from the global soft left.

[Kikó]

Is this just massively in the balance still or what's coming next?

And yes my mate is "bloody scared".

[Spikey M]

I'd the anothor 4 years of Trump and a Third World War just to watch your mate get fucked over like he deserves.

[Kikó]

It's one to double down on credit card debt...

[Kikó]

Donald out.

[Queenslander]

After 3 days of postal vote counting it is off to the Courts

[Adamski]

I have no idea what he’s on about.

[Queenslander]

Off to the Supreme Court to stop the counting!

#RBG

[Kikó]

They are amazing. The lies to pretend they're doing the opposite of what they're actually doing is just amazing.

[Queenslander]

This was predictable weeks ago.

[Lofty]

Is this just massively in the balance still or what's coming next?

And yes my mate is "bloody scared".

Has he not just lost because it's not going to be a landslide.

Donald the mad cunt :D

[Kikó]

No, he based his bet on the thought that Biden was going to walk it so got on the 1.51 odds or whatever it was.

[Lofty]

Apologies, the way I read your initial post I thought he wasn't just predicting a landslide but backing it. The dream lives on.

[Jimmy Floyd]

My two half baked thoughts as to things I didn't see/appreciate before results:

- Starting from an outside perspective or a rational one perhaps, it's easy to overlook just how exciting a candidate Trump is. He properly fires up a large sector of the pop and they adore getting out to vote for him, in a way that wouldn't happen without his straight-shooting stardust

- BLM I think extremely costly for the Dems. If there's one thing the above people don't like, it's being lectured at for months on end. Tough break for black people I guess but the brutal truth in a democracy is it's about doing what you have to do to win power so that you can put your policies in place. Everyone is a saint in opposition.

[Spikey M]

I think it's mostly just that alot of people don't want to admit to voting for him. It was the same with Brexit. I bet there's a lot of people claiming to be remainers that put their cross in the leave box on the night, they just don't want the stigma.

[Lewis]

What is he saying to Latinos that they're liking?

Conservative things?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think it's mostly just that alot of people don't want to admit to voting for him. It was the same with Brexit. I bet there's a lot of people claiming to be remainers that put their cross in the leave box on the night, they just don't want the stigma.

Yes (I mean, I'm one of them, with Brexit. It's not worth the hassle admitting I voted Leave). The left might want to consider that it is they who create this stigma - often with great aggressive vigour - and it is also what causes them such abject disappointment on a consistent basis.

[Spikey M]

I work with one of them, she had a massive pop at our Irish coworker for saying he voted leave and doesn't regret it. She even wheeled out the 'No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs' line whilst telling him he should know better.

She's a massive Corbyn fan predictably (or she was, I haven't seen her since March).

[Ian]

"Aggressive vigour" is unfortunately just the default flavour of discourse now, it's not exclusive to the left.

[niko_cee]

Pennsylvania not looking great for Biden, that's bad right?

[Kikó]

Loads of postal votes outstanding.

[Ian]

I assume those are being doused in lighter fluid as we speak.

[randomlegend]

"Aggressive vigour" is unfortunately just the default flavour of discourse now, it's not exclusive to the left.

The right has always been like it, they're just bealing now they're getting the same back.

[John Arne]

https://gyazo.com/697d1d115ee7b28b814d8b039fd96a30.jpeg

Clinging on to hope.

[Shindig]

What has Trump actually done in his four years? He had the travel ban at the start of it and then .... erm .... the response to Covid?

[mugbull]

Michigan is gonna be crucial. I can’t see Joseph clawing back in Pennsylvania

[Jimmy Floyd]

Without Pennsylvania, he will need two of Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia. With Pennsylvania, he'll need one of them. None are looking amazing.

[Queenslander]

Tax cuts and whistling to the White Supremacists

[Bernanke]

What has Trump actually done in his four years? He had the travel ban at the start of it and then .... erm .... the response to Covid?

Supreme Court justices.

But yeah, ever since Dems took back the House in 2018 he has been a bit limited in going full out.

[Don]

I'll be fucked if I'm making sense out of any of this shit today on so few hours sleep. Just give me the blood on the streets.

[Spikey M]

4 more years? :drool:

Keeks mate must have the rope secured to the light fitting by now.

[Shindig]

Nah, if he's that deep in credit card debt, he doesn't see it as his money he's lost.

[niko_cee]

What has Trump actually done in his four years? He had the travel ban at the start of it and then .... erm .... the response to Covid?

Tried to get re-elected.

Also wasn't the economy going great guns until covid hit? He'd have won a landslide had the election been 12 months ago so he must have done something.

[mugbull]

I mean he’s done a hell of a lot, just most of it has been a net global negative

[Bernanke]

Yeah the hypothetical of what this would have looked like without Covid is actually mind-blowing.

[SvN]

Biden is still 2/1. I don't know enough about US Politcs to know why, but everything I've read seems to suggest he should be the favourite from here when you consider the outstanding votes that need counting.

[Manc]

Scores on the doors?

[randomlegend]

What has Trump actually done in his four years? He had the travel ban at the start of it and then .... erm .... the response to Covid?

They had a Trump supporter on radio 4 yesterday saying how incredibly proud she was of the 400 miles of wall he built on the Southern border which has stemmed the flow of narcotics and illegals. Genuinely sounded like she was going to cry with pride.

[Pleb]

Biden 227-213 Trump

[thommo]

Wisconsin swinging back to Biden as the votes are counted.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What Trump does is he makes a large section of the population feel extremely happy, something that I definitely underestimated.

[Kikó]

"Free Money" has to be the most dangerous phrase ever.

https://i.imgur.com/xczWDep.png

[Queenslander]

:(

[Yevrah]

How much are you in for Kik's?

[Kikó]

£110 on Biden.

[John Arne]

Biden odds on for first time in about 8hrs...

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's nearly crossed over again now ffs.

[Don]

A narrow Biden win is probably at the optimum popcorn/avoiding apocalypse balance so well played all-round :cool:

[mikem]

No clue what is going to happen but everyone is aware MI, PA, an WI are all waiting on early votes to be counted because state legislatures required that vote to be counted day of and after in person. So it could swing quite a bit. GA is all Atlanta and NC is early votes that arrive the next couple days. And here in AZ there is still lots of early vote to count.

If Trump loses it is a big repudiation of just him; down ballot R’s have not lost much and even gained a bit in the House. We are just a heavily geographically sorted country that is really polarized and people don’t care very much about all this. So R’s come home because they don’t see how it all affects their lives and they are mostly not wrong.

It invalidates the shy Trump thing a bit to me. I get being shy about it in say New York but here in Phoenix? Until Trump showed up R’s hadn’t lost a statewide race for over 20 years.

[John Arne]

We're back on

[Jimmy Floyd]

What I live for is David Lammy taking to twitter (he still very much 'takes to twitter') and making pompous statements at times like this. Thanks David, now I wonder what the Socialist MP for Bremen South thinks, or maybe the En Marche MP for La Rochelle West, someone of far more global importance than you.

[SvN]

I got on Biden at 2.54

[phonics]

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[Yevrah]

Biden favourite for the first time in hours.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Joe's won it imo, although I should preface this with saying I am also in the office quoting people up for conrod bearings atm so who knows

[Mellberg]

The bookies really shat the bed after that Florida result. Trump may still win, but Biden's price had no right being the best part of 4/1.

[Ian]

What are the bookies offering for President Kanye? Astonishing racism that he's barely being discussed here.

[phonics]

Him not being on the ballot in the majority of the states because he didn't submit on time might be the big issue there.

[Manc]

Anyone voting for him wants gassing.

[Ian]

I've just Googled and apparently he got nearly 60,000 votes. Fuck's sake.

[Pleb]

Is this the longest election in history?

[Queenslander]

Is this the longest election in history?

2000 Bush v Gore

[Jimmy Floyd]

In a Trump-Kanye two party election I reckon I'd be out there selling the MAGA hats and the orange face paint.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Is this the longest election in history?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951%E2%80%9352_Indian_general_election

[Disco]

How do you run against an incumbent idiot and do this badly?

[Lofty]

Out of interest Jimmy why do you think Trump would be better for the UK?

[phonics]

Than Kanye West?

[-james-]

The bookies really shat the bed after that Florida result. Trump may still win, but Biden's price had no right being the best part of 4/1.

In hindsight, this. I've been following this guy (https://twitter.com/TempletonPeckJr) who was pretty confident all night that the market was being daft and is probably on at some of the best prices. Kind of thing that if you prepare for you'll make a killing.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Out of interest Jimmy why do you think Trump would be better for the UK?

He is more aligned to our interests in a post-Brexit universe. Sleepy Joe is rabidly pro-Ireland (as all Democrats are) and probably more interested in having the EU onside.

[Jimmy Floyd]

In hindsight, this. I've been following this guy (https://twitter.com/TempletonPeckJr) who was pretty confident all night that the market was being daft and is probably on at some of the best prices. Kind of thing that if you prepare for you'll make a killing.

Yep - I traded like a wet cunt, which in a sporting event or something less riddled with one-off panic I would never have done.

Very difficult to keep one's nerve on these things.

[Pepe]

Alright, I'm up. Give me the rundown lads.

[Ian]

One of the two geriatric white dudes is gonna win.

EDIT: Well, 'white' is perhaps not exactly the right term for Trump.

[Don]

Go get a gun, Seattle is burning as we speak.

[randomlegend]

Than Kanye West?

Trump is no less ridiculous a candidate really. I'd rather have Kanye.

[Disco]

West is more obviously deranged, at least Trump is predictably self centred.

[Yeldoow]

IF Biden wins this. Is Trump's claims of fraud an attempt to hang on the the presidency regardless, which he will them pursue through the courts as much and for as long as possible? Or simply him saving face?

[Spikey M]

Alright, I'm up. Give me the rundown lads.

President Kanye.

[Pepe]

It is just what Trump does.

[Disco]

He's clearly laying the groundwork for a defeat, if he wins he can simply brag about doing it against the odds. Somehow his support doesn't see this for the little bitch move that it is, or care that it makes their country look even more like a tin pot shit hole than the last four years have.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Have no fear, Joe has won it.

[phonics]

He's clearly laying the groundwork for a defeat, if he wins he can simply brag about doing it against the odds. Somehow his support doesn't see this for the little bitch move that it is, or care that it makes their country look even more like a tin pot shit hole than the last four years have.

https://i.imgur.com/Uuy3L52.png

lol

[Yevrah]

Biden massive favourite now.

Has somewhere else announced or updated the position?

[SvN]

1.38 for Biden now. Tempted to cash out for a cool £75 profit.