U.S. Presidential Election 2016 (Sponsored by Betty Croker's Hamburger Helper)

[Bernanke]

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Bad time for malarkey

[Pepe]

Which numbers are supposed to be the most recent ones?

[Bernanke]

Biden on top.

[Boydy]

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[Luca]

Is he having a stroke in the second video?

[Boydy]

Quite possibly.

[Queenslander]

I dont understand how Biden is seen as the most viable moderate.

[Queenslander]

Bloomberg pissing away $700m is bloody dark.

[Bernanke]

Bloomberg pissing away $700m is bloody dark.

Imagine if that money was spent on voter registration outreach instead of feeding his ego.

[Queenslander]

Imagine if that money was spent on voter registration outreach instead of feeding his ego.

Depressing.

I see people saying it would fix Flints water?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bloomberg has spent more money on this than the total spent by all UK parties on all elections in all of history.

[Queenslander]

Bloomberg has spent more money on this than the total spent by all UK parties on all elections in all of history.

Fucking hell probably add in us as well.

[Queenslander]

Warren would fit in nicely within the QLD Labour party.

[Queenslander]

Trump is giving great commentary on the Democratic primary. Lol

Trump 2020

[phonics]

lol at all the healthcare company stocks going up on the back of a Biden win on Tuesday. Definitely nothing to see there. Nothing.

[mugbull]

Of course they would, Biden's not appealing to get rid of insurance and uproot the healthcare system. For the worse, sure, but idk what kind of conspiracy you're trying to assume now?

[mikem]

I wonder how much African Americans 40 and up in the South having a living memory that the New Deal (or any other massive government program) didn’t actually apply to them affects Democratic politics.

[phonics]

To be alive at the end of the new deal you'd have to be 85 which is 10 years older than the average life expectancy. So I'm going to say, not many of them.

[mikem]

But your parents or grandparents were. The house and neighborhood you live in was shaped by it.

[Lewis]

I bet they just see the party RADICALISM as the sole preserve of wealthy white retards.

[bruhnaldo]

I've never once heard anyone reference the new deal.

[Spoonsky]

fuuuuuuuk

The moderate Dems have done a good job of consolidating behind a candidate, just a shame that candidate is Joe Biden. I think we're in for four more years of Trump. The man can't speak and you're going to have a lot of the Sanders crowd (maybe more than in 2016) who refuse to take one for the team.

Meanwhile Elizabeth Warren is a total disgrace.

[phonics]

Meanwhile Elizabeth Warren is a total disgrace.

Lol you have to love the left, so quick to eat their own.

[mugbull]

The counterfactuals are all over the place. You've got some people claiming that only Bernie could beat Trump and some saying that only a well-"respected" moderate like Biden could beat Trump, and I genuinely don't know which is the case. Biden would probably do better in the swing states, so I'd say him. The kids at Reed who'll probably protest by throwing pig shit at him at a rally are unimportant

[Bernanke]

Meanwhile Elizabeth Warren is a total disgrace.

Lol you would have hailed her as a saint if she caused Biden to be non-viable in a few states, but instead she's to blame because Bernie apparently haven't been able to expand his base beyond 2016.

[Queenslander]

From the outside looking in Warren lining up behind a moderate and not a fellow progressive does seem a little cunty.

[phonics]

What moderate has she lined up behind?

[Queenslander]

Biden. She has no path to victory only staying to split the progressive vote. I would say the same of Bernie if was in Warrens position.

She will be rewarded with a cabinet position.

Anyway Trump v Biden debates will be hilarious.

[phonics]

Biden. She has no path to victory only staying to split the progressive vote. I would say the same of Bernie if was in Warrens position.

She will be rewarded with a cabinet position.

Anyway Trump v Biden debates will be hilarious.

Stop getting your political knowledge from CumTown and Chapo.

[Lewis]

https://i.imgur.com/aAeYwsw.jpg?1

I lolled.

[Queenslander]

:D

[Queenslander]

Stop getting your political knowledge from CumTown and Chapo.

Im more of a gullible twitter mong these days.

[Lewis]

https://twitter.com/biden4pres

This is the best parody account since before that Big Sam one let it go to his head.

[Queenslander]

That account got me good a few times on the bus this morning.

[phonics]

I'm not saying the online Bernie crowd are acting in bad faith but watching all these people get mad at Joe Biden telling a guy who's shouting 'BUT MUH AR-15' that he's full of shit is incredible.

[Boydy]

He offered him outside. He's clearly got dementia and thinks he's 25 again.

[phonics]

He offered him outside. He's clearly got dementia and thinks he's 25 again.

Pretext: Joe Biden is a terrible candidate that will lose to Donald Trump.

Response: People like candidates who both threaten and/or enact violence against their opposition. John Prescott literally punched a voter in the face and his approval went up.


"You are actively trying to end our Second Amendment right and take away our guns," the worker told Biden.Biden replied: "You're full of sh**."

"I support the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment — just like right now, if you yelled 'fire,' that's not free speech," Biden continued. "And from the very beginning — I have a shotgun, I have a 20-gauge, a 12-gauge. My sons hunt. Guess what? You're not allowed to own any weapon. I'm not taking your gun away at all."

"This is not OK, alright?" the man said, to which Biden replied, "Don't tell me that, pal, or I'm going to go outside with you, man."

"You're working for me, man!" the worker said.
"I'm not working for you," Biden said. "Don't be such a horse's ass."

Swap names and exactly the same things happen in inverse. Media would try kill Bernie and Bernie Stans would say he's straight talking to a Gun Nut. Instead Bernie Stans are saying 'Can you believe Joe Biden shouted at a union worker in Detroit?'

[phonics]

I would like to repeat that Biden is going to win the nomination and lose to Trump. Again.

[Boydy]

Swap names and the conversation doesn't happen like that.

[phonics]

Swap names and the conversation doesn't happen like that.

Are you intentionally trying to miss the point?

[Bernanke]

https://i.imgur.com/Jpz91LP.jpg

:henn0rz:

[Queenslander]

Bernie staying in the race for the next debate. :drool:

[John]

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:lol:

[phonics]

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No reason, just remembered it and started laughing.

[John]

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[phonics]

He literally has the power to do that and refuses to do it because his big business buddies don't want the government telling them what to do.

[Disco]

Is America stupid enough to let him survive this?

[mugbull]

Is America stupid enough to let him survive this?

His approval rating is higher than it’s ever been, so yes

[Kikó]

I doubt many of them will be left come election.

[John]

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Amazing.

[phonics]

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Always saying the quiet part loud.

[Lewis]

I know there is a lot going on, but the wall-to-wall coverage of this shonky rape allegation against Joe Biden is surely imminent.

[phonics]

I know there is a lot going on, but the wall-to-wall coverage of this shonky rape allegation against Joe Biden is surely imminent.

Primaries still going mate. The moment Sanders concedes it'll be the only thing you see for months.

[Lewis]

I suspect it won't be.

[Ian]

Trump, after declaring he knows South Korea better than anybody, appears to have gone on to spout a figure where he or a "researcher" has confused the population of Seoul with its height about sea level.

[Boydy]

Sanders ending his campaign apparently.

[bruhnaldo]

The moment Sanders concedes it'll be the only thing you see for months.

Let's see!

[Spoonsky]

Who you voting for bruhnaldo?

[Lewis]

The rapist.

[bruhnaldo]

Who you voting for bruhnaldo?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez :drool:

[Lewis]

Let's see!

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It's a start.

[Queenslander]

:lol:

[phonics]

Washington Post article on it today.

Told you, so so predictable.

We're less than a month from Trump calling him 'Touchy Joe Biden'

[Lewis]

They've covered it now, and actually done some journalism to undermine her claims. Move along. Nothing to see here.

[bruhnaldo]

Let's talk more about AOC.

[phonics]

She sounds like a big fan.

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[bruhnaldo]

I'd do anything she told me tbqh.

[Boydy]

https://m.facebook.com/groups/986519331428802?view=permalink&id=3031858906894824

Is there any way to embed videos from Facebook?

[Spikey M]

:D

[phonics]

If you thought Trump didn't like CNN just wait until he sees these Chyrons :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVhMThvUMAEmXag.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVhMThwVAAEcSk4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVhMThwUUAAUzHr.jpg

It's taken them 3.5 years but maybe they're finally learning?

[John]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-trump-lockdown-virginia-michigan-minnesota-liberate-press-conference-twitter-a9471946.html

He's a fucking maniac.

[Spoonsky]

I think this will be his legacy, or I’d like to think so. When thousands were dying he was going crazier and more irresponsible than ever.

[Spikey M]

I've no idea how he remains in power. Are people listening to him and breaking the lockdowns?

[John Arne]

Well this is completely normal...


https://youtu.be/JK3ePiaPU7E

[Giggles]

I've no idea how he remains in power. Are people listening to him and breaking the lockdowns?

Because Americans are thick cunts.

[phonics]

I've no idea how he remains in power. Are people listening to him and breaking the lockdowns?

All the protests are funded by right-wing billionaire 'public interest' groups. It's so dodgy.

[Shindig]

Are the states he's calling on the kind he needs to swing an election win?

[mugbull]

I doubt he would’ve won an election pre-corona, but now it’s pretty much guaranteed that he will

[Mellberg]

Will win? You're mad. Cast iron cert to lose the election. He'll hold the Republican states, but the swing states will fuck him hard. Don't really rate Biden, but a black Mexican would beat him at this stage.

[Lewis]

I thought he would easily win this time round, but now who knows. Joe Biden is as demented as the Donald, and I wonder whether the fact he's had to shut himself away during all of this will sink him. If they had picked (or had had the option to pick) somebody younger they could have been out and about calling him a dickhead, but instead he's at home trying not to die.

[Queenslander]

Id imagine Sanders campaining for Biden in swing states should compensate for Joe's sundowners.

[Mellberg]

Think he'd have a chance tomorrow, but by the time the election rolls around he'll be finished. He's desperately trying to pin blame for the US covid outbreak elsewhere, but the "miracle" etc quotes and trying to open up the economy too early are going to finish him once there's 100k+ dead Americans.

[Spoonsky]

Are the states he's calling on the kind he needs to swing an election win?

Yes.

My gut at the moment says Trump will lose. I think Biden is an underrated candidate, he turns out all the people who will never voice their political preferences publicly but vote every cycle (aka the anti-Bernie). People forget how narrowly Trump won in 2016, against a far worse candidate.

[Queenslander]

How many alt left weirdos wont vote for Biden?

[mugbull]

Will win? You're mad. Cast iron cert to lose the election. He'll hold the Republican states, but the swing states will fuck him hard. Don't really rate Biden, but a black Mexican would beat him at this stage.

His approval is the highest its been during his whole presidency. It literally matters not a single bit what he does or says. It’s like how Bush’s popularity shot up to like 80-90% right after 9/11 and as a result Cheney had the ability to do whatever he wanted for a few months

[Spikey M]

What a country.

I look forward to Prime Minister Piers Morgan in 5 years time.

[Shindig]

He can win if he campaigns on Coronavirus. Trump has royally fucked it and is seemingly intent on making it worse so some gimps in Michigan will vote for him if they live til November.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What a country.

I look forward to Prime Minister Piers Morgan in 5 years time.

The great advantage of not having a presidential system is that morons like this have no route to the top without doing the hard yards first. Piers would have to pick a party and alienate half the country, no way he would risk his snake skin doing that.

[Spikey M]

He'd make his own. The IT'S COMMON SENSE (ICS) party. With common sense policies for common sense people to burn down straw men of their own creation.

[Mellberg]

Cuomo's nicely exposing him as a political lightweight at the minute. Top man. That deconstruction in response to Trump's tweet the other day was decent.

[Queenslander]

If China were offering a vaccine Id bow to Xi Jinping.

[Spikey M]

I'd blow Xi Jinping.

[Queenslander]

I'd blow Xi Jinping.

China is the future.

[niko_cee]

The future's going to be unrelentingly shit then.

[Queenslander]

The future's going to be unrelentingly shit then.

Bend the knee

[Spikey M]

Unhinge the jaw.

[Queenslander]

Unhinge the jaw.

Yúkuài dì

[Lewis]

I'd stand doing the wanker sign fifty feet away out of squinting range.

[Queenslander]

It is a lot of fun siding with China down here atm.

[Spikey M]

Atm would be a step too far for me.

[Queenslander]

Atm would be a step too far for me.

Within Australia it is fine Im sorry if it doesnt travel well.

[Giggles]

In fairness, for the good of us all someone needs to put a bullet in this cunt sooner rather than later.

[Mazuuurk]

Quite funny how one or two weeks ago or something he was lecturing journalists about how terrible it is here in Sweden and how we're suffeering "very very much" or whatever he said since we haven't done a lockdown.

[Don]

Reading a paragraph of a Wall Street Journal article which praises himself :D

Also love how he spends 10 minutes explaining the high death count is because of their large population but also spends 10 minutes raving about the test count which is more than [inserts ten random countries] COMBINED.

The Q&A delivered tonight. Top class.

[Don]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252204786059018240?s=20

He'll win.

[Disco]

That link doesn't go anywhere.

[Spikey M]

Maybe it's a metaphor.

[Don]

Soz, mobile link as it was intended for The Group.

[Boydy]

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[Don]

So good. Having watched the geezer daily for not even a week, I can definitely see the genius of him. Literally puts you under a spell. Only further disastrous waves can possibly stop him but he's donned all on this one.

[Pepe]

Pelosi snacks on ice cream. :D

[Lewis]

It sounds like she actually lives on it. There must be something in it to say she's about a hundred and fifty.

[Pepe]

Imagine Donnie's Big Mac stash. :drool:

[Lewis]

That picture of him presiding over that fast food buffet is one of the all-time great political pictures.

[Disco]

It's hard to beat the guy at the start who blames Obama for not being in the oval office 7 years before he was elected.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzDhm808oU4&feature=emb_logo

[bruhnaldo]

why's he doing a political ad against Pelosi lol?

[Ian]

I assume you're looking for a better answer than "Because he's an insane old cunt"?

[Boydy]

She's a big high profile democrat and it's easy to make her look out of touch.

[Lewis]

Also, a twenty-four thousand dollar fridge? You would think diminishing returns would kick in pretty early on fridges.

[phonics]

They take your passport that you don't have if you don't own multiple fridges, all of them having ice machines.

[bruhnaldo]

That's why I'm barred from leaving the country myself, actually.

[Lewis]

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lol

[bruhnaldo]

Lmao they been making old white dudes out to be the devil for years and now it's going to royally fuck them :drool:

[Don]

Within 10 minutes Trump has got the CDC director losing all credibility by clearly being fed Trump's words. It's a top class episode tonight.

This is a good geezer to follow too: https://mobile.twitter.com/ddale8

[Spikey M]

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[Ian]

Oh I bet actual scientists love speaking to him.

"Hm. What if we scared the virus away with ghosts? Or turned everybody into werewolves, they can only be killed by silver so the virus wouldn't work on them. Or...."

[Spikey M]

He's in charge of the biggest army in the world.

[Kikó]

Oh I bet actual scientists love speaking to him.

"Hm. What if we scared the virus away with ghosts? Or turned everybody into werewolves, they can only be killed by silver so the virus wouldn't work on them. Or...."

Have we ever tried it though? I mean we could try it?

[Boydy]

It's proper Angelsaint levels there. "Disinfectant? Inside the body? Research on that!"

[Ian]

Have we ever tried it though? I mean we could try it?

It's a really interesting idea I had and we're definitely going to research on it.

[Kikó]

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[Ian]

It was that he kept looking right at her for validation of his brilliant ideas and all the research they were going to do on it that must have made that especially fun for her.

Like somebody having to deal with their decrepit father. "Yeah dad, sure, we'll definitely be doing that."

[Kikó]

He's basically your granddad who is just regurgitating stuff he's thinking. My nan does the same and then you challenge her and she goes "I've not gone to school, I don't know!" FFS STFU.

[Don]

You all need to take the CNN shaft out your mouth. He's just here to present talent. He's here to present ideas.

[Bernanke]

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NYT seem to have found 'some experts' that think it's a great idea going by that headline.

[Kikó]

Some experts advocate bleach injections. SAD.

[Foe]

It’ll work.

The infection will be killed. Also the person.

[Ian]

Though presumably not in that order.

[Raoul Duke]

Can't die of Coronavirus if your lungs melt tapping-head.gif

[Lewis]

https://spectator.us/joe-biden-tara-reade-kavanaugh-metoo-endorsements/

I love this sort of thing. :happycry:

[Kikó]

digitally penetrated?

[Disco]

So that's what poking is.

[phonics]

The Spectator US is such garbage. They just hired the absolute bottom of the barrel of 'bad columnists who got a big gig because their dad is loaded'.

I refuse to believe "Chadwick Moore" is even a real person.

The menu system is also fucking hilarious.

https://i.imgur.com/o1s6qkM.png

[phonics]

I hadn't been on this site since practically launch and I'm considering a subscription just to read this article by 'Cockburn' about how sexy Prison Planet Paul is.

https://i.imgur.com/5ZHFWCv.png

[bruhnaldo]

I mean the quotes in the story seem real though.

[Lewis]

I don't know anymore. Those menus...

[Boydy]

He is a handsome guy which makes you wonder why he's such a fucking weirdo.

[phonics]

He is a handsome guy which makes you wonder why he's such a fucking weirdo.

Imagine if Lewis never found this place and got his :D's from far-right nut jobs instead. This place is a public service.

[bruhnaldo]

Anyways it is very strange all of a suddenly the #MeToo campaign doesn't matter to these people.

[bruhnaldo]

Truthfully it's hard for me to believe these things so long after the fact myself but thankfully I am not a politician and didn't triple down on "#BelieveHerAtAllCosts".

[Boydy]

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:D

Lol

[Queenslander]

Anyways it is very strange all of a suddenly the #MeToo campaign doesn't matter to these people.

It's almost like these people, who only exist on Twitter, are full of shit?

[Lewis]

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/06/biden-due-process-tara-reade-sexual-assault/

He must be pretty confident that most media outlets aren't going to you wot mate him at any point.

[Spoonsky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1385&v=j-urfohXAOo&feature=emb_title

:D

Maximum scenes at 38:30 but you can choose any spot really.

[Luca]

Could they not have sorted a broadband connection for Sleepy Joe? That was what trying to stream porn in the early 2000s looked like.

[Don]

Accusations of racism at Trump's treatment of that last question...fuck me, what is wrong with these fucking cretins? That Asian bird needs to fuck right off.

[Luca]

So I think he’s generally a giant racist, but comparing their response to China’s is a pretty standard Trump retort. Nothing in it for me.

[Alex]

"Maybe that's a question you should ask.....CHI-NA!"

The delivery was amazing. :D

[Giggles]

Accusations of racism at Trump's treatment of that last question...fuck me, what is wrong with these fucking cretins? That Asian bird needs to fuck right off.

Big time. She managed to make herself look the bigger mong in a conversation with Donald Trump which is quite the feat.

[Disco]

Transition to greatness sounds creepy, it's got 'promoted to posterity' vibes about it.

[Boydy]

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:D

lol

[Queenslander]

What a King!

[Ian]

Using Keyboard Warriors as a good thing.

"It's cool, I'm taking it back!"

[Giggles]

Really and truly, when you’re dealing with a person that’s so dangerous to the human race and in a position of such power, surely he needs to be taken down.

[Jimmy Floyd]

People are ready to believe the CIA killed Kennedy to furthe American interests, you'd think they'd have smuggled something into DJT's Coca-Cola by now if they were all that.

[Giggles]

His head needs to be exploded as a statement.

[John]

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:lol:

[Shindig]

Fuck. I hope this kills him. Politically.

[Spikey M]

What a man.

[Manc]

Tremendous.

[phonics]

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That Dan Scavino shit is so lame.

Him being a preening media bitch is the funny stuff.

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[phonics]

This is primo hilarious Trump tweeting

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(Plague!)

[Jimmy Floyd]

He phoned in live to the TV golf coverage earlier (fuck knows why) and chickened out of having a go at Rory McIlroy after the latter lit him on fire in the media the other day. Coward.

[Queenslander]

Giddyup


Joe Biden sorry for telling African Americans they 'ain't black' if they consider voting for Donald Trump

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-23/nsw-coronavirus-three-new-cases-young-people-warned/12277800

[Spikey M]

You need to wheel out one of your darker hued running mates for that shit lad.

[phonics]

Biden just shit himself on stream.

https://twitter.com/pineymcknuckle/status/1265673728186355713?s=21

[Boydy]

:lol:

[Shindig]

I like how there's a definite reaction from the other guy. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/165C8/production/_112529519_trump_2tweets-nc.png

:harold:

[Shindig]

Careful, Donald. You don't want to get banned from twitter.

[Ian]

I wonder which social media platform he'd move to if they did ban him.

I'm thinking TikTok.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm thinking Friends Reunited.

[Ian]

Is Habbo Hotel still a thing?

[Disco]

What about the penguin one, is that still going?

[Ian]

Penguins are a bit black for The Donald.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52815872

US President Donald Trump will sign an executive order targeting social media firms, the White House has said.

It comes after he threatened to shut down social media platforms he accused of stifling conservative voices.

The latest dispute emerged after Twitter added fact-check links to his tweets for the first time.

:harold:

[Queenslander]

:lol:

Bernie Sanders is too good America.

[Lewis]

If you start 'fact-checking' certain tweets then you effectively endorse everything that you don't, which opens up all sorts of platform vs publisher issues that they really ought to avoid.

[Spoonsky]

He knows that his best chance of winning is suppressing voter turnout as much as possible, and this has given him the perfect chance.

We're fucked

[Byron]

Have to agree with Lewis. Either you fact check everything or nothing.

However it is Trump so I'm enjoying the temper tantrum.

[Boydy]

Not really sure where I stand on the whole fact-checking thing but this is funny:

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[Yevrah]

If you start 'fact-checking' certain tweets then you effectively endorse everything that you don't, which opens up all sorts of platform vs publisher issues that they really ought to avoid.

This is indeed a problem, but I think it's the lesser of two evils.

[Kikó]

Trump incites hate and lies blatantly so boo fucking hoo.

[Shindig]

Fact checking is the only way the internet as a whole gets better. Accountability for bullshit.

[Bernanke]

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The whole country is such a fucking clown show. :harold:

[Kikó]

such bollocks apologism JA.

[John Arne]

such bollocks apologism JA.

:D I actually deleted it as you posted.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1266315061221613569

The whole country is such a fucking clown show. :harold:

The major of the town said the police did nothing wrong in killing the bloke...

[Yevrah]

Fact checking is the only way the internet as a whole gets better. Accountability for bullshit.

Indeed. We all agree propaganda is a bad thing, right? I mean, we certainly used to.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I never understood America at all until a few years ago I did a spate of reading about the civil war, and suddenly it all falls into place, literally everything about the country springs from 1860-65, much in the way that pretty much everything in England springs from the industrial revolution.

An entire network of states were willing to put their young men up for slaughter in order to preserve the racially based slave economy, you don't come back from that in a mere 200 years.

[Lewis]

If anything will change police attitudes towards your area/community it's a mass outbreak of lawlessness.

[Kikó]

Yes they should be allowed to continue killing black people.

America is inherently racist even if it tries to be progressive.

[Lewis]

Is this going to stop them killing black people, or is it just going to make life worse for the other black people?

[Kikó]

No change.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://i.imgur.com/FzvlMgh.png

Heh.

[Don]

Any sane person who watches that video of his murder understands why rioting is both justified and necessary.

[mugbull]

Any sane person who watches that video of his murder understands why rioting is both justified and necessary.

The proletariat has been rioting for millennia and I’m pretty sure it’s never once worked out in their favor

[Lewis]

Most times it doesn't, and the successful ones tend to have a bit more focus and scope than robbing consumer goods.

[Don]

It's just human instinct to be riled up by that footage and rioting seems the natural outlet for it. Its success rate is something I'd need to study history to comment on but it's fairly clear it's raising awareness of the poblem at hand which can only be a good thing over time unless you're living in some dictatorial regime with no hope of change...

[Kikó]

They should just carry on and accept the inequality and brutality in their society. It'll change eventually.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If my Tony Blair education is anything to go by, then NON VIOLENT PROTEST is the only way to bring about change.

In R.E., which by this time circa 2002 had abandoned all notions of having anything to do with any religion, we had to do a project on one of a choice of four NON-VIOLENT leaders:

- MLK
- Gandhi
- Dalai Lama
- Tutu

I was the only person in the entire year to choose Desmond, with 80% choosing King and the Asians choosing Gandhi, and that fact taught me a lot about myself.

[Ian]

I did like the person on Twitter who decided to correct Martin Luther King's son on how his dad would have felt about all this.

[Lewis]

There are lots of things they could do between nothing and looting. If they still really wanted to smash things up they could attack government buildings, which would be a much more direct attack on their system, albeit one without a free telly.

[Kikó]

https://www.facebook.com/276157035868006/posts/1631617923655237/?vh=e

Iantresting.

[Don]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-52832791

Even if some wasteman's death didn't have me on the street, this would. Disgusting.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Drive-by tear gas on peaceful protestors. #MAGA.

Trump has apparently sent in the national guard and threatened to have them shoot people too.

[mikem]

If anything will change police attitudes towards your area/community it's a mass outbreak of lawlessness.

Every in-group protects itself first, so waiting for police attitudes to change is to wait forever. As long as the public continues to let them and DA’s self police nothing is changing.

Much more important for public attitudes toward both local politics and police to change.

And sure, research in the US indicates that the biggest mover in public sentiment During Civil Rights was non-violent protests being violently put down by the police. But kinda a lot to ask “really you see - John Lewis getting his skull cracked is your best political move.”

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/agenda-seeding-how-1960s-black-protests-moved-elites-public-opinion-and-voting/136610C8C040C3D92F041BB2EFC3034C

But we were here just a couple years ago when peaceful kneeling at football games was too much. It is always too much.

[mugbull]

Every in-group protects itself first, so waiting for police attitudes to change is to wait forever. As long as the public continues to let them and DA’s self police nothing is changing.

Much more important for public attitudes toward both local politics and police to change.

And sure, research in the US indicates that the biggest mover in public sentiment During Civil Rights was non-violent protests being violently put down by the police. But kinda a lot to ask “really you see - John Lewis getting his skull cracked is your best political move.”

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/agenda-seeding-how-1960s-black-protests-moved-elites-public-opinion-and-voting/136610C8C040C3D92F041BB2EFC3034C

But we were here just a couple years ago when peaceful kneeling at football games was too much. It is always too much.

Gone for three months, back to TTH. Good to have you back I guess, though i still don't really know what you're doing here

Was talking about this with some mates, the protests will take what would have been a huge boon for the public image of the movement - the video and the death - and turned it into a PR disaster. It's been absolutely awful in terms of public image. People will have gone from "fuck those cops" to "fuck the protesters, look at what animals they are". I know my mom has, and judging from how her brain works, plenty of white America too.

[mikem]

Bored, like everyone else. And I like discussing politics but everything is so stupid in the US now it is impossible. But I’ll be bored in two weeks.

And maybe the protests will if you thought anything was going to change in the first place. I think “the narrative” may be affected, but policy? Not so much. Policy likely won’t change cause we will all yammer on about the President and Congress who really have no power in any of this.

All of this is local politics: DA’s, sheriffs, police unions, and NIMBYism.

[Shindig]

I don't think it's possible to protest in the western world without something being set on fire.

[mikem]

Well, people were protesting by taking a knee at football games. Pretty peaceful but brought about the same respectability arguments.

I don’t disagree with Mokbull except that I think these arguments always seem to surface.

[Shindig]

Well, the cop's been arrested so we'll see where this leads. I can't imagine standing on his neck is deemed justifiable force.

[Ian]

Yeah but by TAKING A KNEE during the ANTHEM he was DISRESPECTING the FLAG and THE TROOPS.

Probably something something CONSTITUTION as well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well, the cop's been arrested so we'll see where this leads. I can't imagine standing on his neck is deemed justifiable force.

Is it just the one that actually killed him or have all four of the police officers been arrested?

Last I heard the Attorney General wanted them all charged but they were "TAKING THE FIFTH" and refusing to co-operate.

[Shindig]

They say ex-officer but where all of them fired? The cop's defence will always be, "I was doing my job and my job is hard." There should be lines you don't cross, though.

[Kikó]

Like kneeling on someone's neck. They're racist cowards who are untouchable.

[Giggles]

Was this George Floyd fella known before this or just because of this?

[Shindig]

Well, the kneeling bloke is the one being charged with third degree murder.

[Kikó]

We'll see if he is found guilty.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's been charged with third degree murder.

[Spikey M]

The cop has an, erm, interesting track record.

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Assuming it's not a load of shit, obvs.

[Lewis]

'[M]urdered Wayne Reyes, a latino man with 16 bullets forced into him' makes it sound like they shoved them up his arse.

[Shindig]

The one thing I remember about the Castile murder was how completely out of his depth the copper was.

[Raoul Duke]

You wouldn't trust 90% of them to make a sandwich correctly, let alone give them guns. Absolute shit tip.

[phonics]

They're all absolute scum. NYPD being the absolute kings of that breed.

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LAPD are bad but Rodney King forced a bunch of action within the force that never happened in New York.

[Yevrah]

I know nothing of US policing really, but in every video I see from there there appears to be a bigger them and us culture (propagated by their officers) than anywhere else in the western world.

[Kikó]

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Seems underlying health conditions was wot dun im.

[Yevrah]

How the fuck are they allowed (who is they by the way?) to reference potential intoxicants?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And it's happening.

The officer will be acquitted, given his job back and given a medal for taking a pesky black man off the streets within a couple of months.

[phonics]

I know nothing of US policing really, but in every video I see from there there appears to be a bigger them and us culture (propagated by their officers) than anywhere else in the western world.

It's not just the cops, it's the law, it's the courts, it's the system. The coroner is saying that the knee on his neck didn't kill him, heart disease did.

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If you stole a candy bar, the cop shoots at you and kills a six year old bystander. You can be charged with felony murder.

While a police officer can drunkenly break into your apartment thinking it was their place, kill you for tresspassing in your own home and get off on qualified immunity. It's disgusting.

If you'd like to learn more about the absolute disgrace that is the US legal system I reccomend Mic Dicta (https://soundcloud.com/micdicta), ALAB (https://www.alabseries.com/) and FiveFour (http://www.westwoodonepodcasts.com/pods/5-4/)

[Spikey M]

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Seems underlying health conditions was wot dun im.

Could you stab someone with hemophilia and only face manslaughter charges of they died?

I thought intent mattered?

[phonics]

Could you stab someone with hemophilia and only face manslaughter charges of they died?

I thought intent mattered?

He's being charged with intentional indifference. According to that, he had no intent to kill, he just didn't care if he died lol.

[Spikey M]

He's being charged with intentional indifference. According to that, he had no intent to kill, he just didn't care if he died lol.

Well that's nice.

What a country.

[mikem]

I know nothing of US policing really, but in every video I see from there there appears to be a bigger them and us culture (propagated by their officers) than anywhere else in the western world.

I was raised by civil rights lawyers who sued the New Orleans police department as a source of income starting in the late 60’s. So cops are scum and all that, but it is a little more complicated. One little known open secret is you can get a Grand Jury to indict anyone at all for criminal proceedings if the DA’s make a case. Except cops. However, the same case at a jury trial for civil damages? City will always lose. That means that for individual cops any punishment is normally handled through arbitration procedures set up on the municipal level. But the police unions have an outsized impact on these because the public doesn’t have the bandwidth for all the Byzantine nonsense. So cop gets in trouble - gets fired - gets a new job in another county or gets reinstated with back pay in a couple years.

But our policing in major cities got destroyed a couple decades ago due to quotas and three strikes your out laws that started in the 80’s and were codified in the 90’s. It changed policing on a fundamental level. Not so much a question of the easy “they are all racists”; the quotas and stats create incentives which makes the entire force systematically racist regardless of whether the cops are white, black, Asian, or Hispanic.

David Simon gives a good summary in this interview:
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/04/29/david-simon-on-baltimore-s-anguish

[phonics]

I'm all for solidarity but at least spell the fucking slogan right.

https://i.imgur.com/sXJJ8hG.png

[phonics]

LOL Border Patrol have been flying a Military Surveillance Drone over the city.

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What the fuck are they even doing there anyway?

[mikem]

International airport? So of course they have drones.

[phonics]

What?

[mikem]

There is an international airport, you are going to have border related agencies there. You will also have them as a regional hub because Canada isn’t too far away. Of course they are there.

The drone thing was a joke.

[Spikey M]

There's a lot of people that I didn't notice before, that Jimmy's list has now made me now pay attention to. He's right once again here.