Do we live in a golden age of television?

[Alex]

the final dying man decaying completely did me in.

Yep.

The "makeup" department, or whatever you call the people responsible for that sort of thing, are brilliant. Horrible, but brilliant. Because at the end the fireman looked like he was red, blue, grey and see-through all at once. It was fucking horrifying. And, I imagine, incredibly accurate. :(

When she's visiting the bloke who was in charge (Akimov, I think?) and it only shows you his legs, and then afterwards she just mentions to the professor guy (I can't remember any of their names, but Jared Harris) that "his face was gone”. Fucking hell. :|

[Spikey M]

Yep.

The "makeup" department, or whatever you call the people responsible for that sort of thing, are brilliant. Horrible, but brilliant. Because at the end the fireman looked like he was red, blue, grey and see-through all at once. It was fucking horrifying. And, I imagine, incredibly accurate. :(

When she's visiting the bloke who was in charge (Akimov, I think?) and it only shows you his legs, and then afterwards she just mentions to the professor guy (I can't remember any of their names, but Jared Harris) that "his face was gone”. Fucking hell. :|

yeah. I don't know that I've ever wondered what it's like to die from exposure to radiation, but it has jumped to the top of my 'just put a bullet in me' list. Fuck going through that.

[Kikó]

Echo the Chernobyl shout. Absolute horror. Wonderfully done so far.

[Shindig]

Alright, I need to get a hold of that.

[Dark Soldier]

What public torrent sites are there these days? I was on a private tv one a while back DS recommended but they suspended me for inactivity and there's never anyone in their irc chat to get the begging bowl out for.

PM me.

[Lewis]

This Chernobyl thing sounds right up my street, but I'm going to wait until it has finished and watch them all over a couple of days.

[John]

I watched the first episode of Chernobyl on the laptop and rather liked the deepening, yellowish tint to everything that made things look increasingly diseased and dangerous as the episode went on.

I've just put the second on now and realised I forgot to turn f.Lux off the other night before starting the episode, and that tint was just my laptop screen adjusting to the time. :D

[SvN]

That's hilarious :D

As I read the first line I was wondering what the fuck you were on about.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Been browsing IMDB as I recognised one of the firemen from The Terror, turns out that has a second season this year.

[Shindig]

Seeing as I don't have sky, I wound up watching some hospital footage of the victims instead. They're just waiting to die. :(

[Baz]

What the fuck. :lol:

[Spikey M]

You sick cunt.

Link?

[Giggles]

Didn't realise Picard was starting so soon.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Suj0bYI04w

I'd rather not post the timestamp for the worst one but ... y'know.

[Limoutsonik]

I too started Chernobyl based on what you guys said about it. It's by far and away and the most gripping TV series i have ever seen in my life. It's so harrowing and so haunting,it leaves you speechless. A fucking masterpiece of a series.

[SvN]

Been browsing IMDB as I recognised one of the firemen from The Terror, turns out that has a second season this year.

Yeah I'm not sure what the deal with that is. I loved the first season, so I hope they don't shit the bed with an unnecessary second series.

[John]

They're going the anthology route, so the second season won't intrude on the first in any way.

[SvN]

That's a relief - although it seems odd that it's still called "The Terror", given that the first series was based on the book of the same name. I imagine the second season wasn't originally planned, and now they're stuck with the name.

[John]

That's a relief - although it seems odd that it's still called "The Terror", given that the first series was based on the book of the same name. I imagine the second season wasn't originally planned, and now they're stuck with the name.

The new one will be about a spectre of some kind menacing a group of people during World War 2, so presumably if it keeps running beyond this one each series will feature something you could reasonably describe as 'the terror' to keep the title from seeming daft.

[Bernanke]

Barry S02E05 is one of the most memorable episodes of TV I've seen since... The Americans last episode or something? It's absolute madness for 30 minutes straight. Props to Bill Hader for the directing, gave me serious Coen bros vibes at times.

It's almost a bottle episode, but still moves the story forward. I'm at a loss for words.

[Yevrah]

Watched the first episode of Chernobyl. Makes you feel like you're part of the unfolding horror without knowing what's coming whilst simultaneously knowing almost exactly what's coming.

Gripping stuff.

[John]

Have you ever wanted to boot the balls clean off a TV character's body more than Dyatlov?

[Mike]

I too just watched the first episode of Chernobyl. Was planning an early night but episode two is going on. How many will it be in total?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Five.

I'm waiting until they're all out.

[Yevrah]

I would normally wait, but this is absolutely brilliant.

[Yevrah]

That's episode 2 done. I really want to read up on this to understand the science and what went wrong more but equally I don't want to spoil anything.

[Spikey M]

They all get amazing tans and live happily ever after is my bet.

[Shindig]

It wasn't a meltdown. Just a really loud fart. Everyone smiles and laughs.

[Disco]

That's episode 2 done. I really want to read up on this to understand the science and what went wrong more but equally I don't want to spoil anything.

There's some really interesting stuff on YT explaining the science behind it as well as people visiting various parts of the plant, including the other reactors and the actual control room. There's a famous film by a guy called Valdimir Shevchenko made shortly after the accident, he gets shots from the roof of the reactor building during which he must be getting absolutely annihilated by massive doses of radiation. Needless to say he ended up melting into a puddle like most of the others.

[Mike]

Drew Scanlon, formerly of Giantbomb.com and more known as the blinking white guy has a travel channel and spent two days there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdgVcL3Xlkk

[Yevrah]

Finished off episode 3 and did a bit of reading. The reading is quite boring, so it really is an excellently made series that dramatises things so well.

[Pepe]

Are plebs going to use this as an excuse to not build more nuclear plants?

[Kikó]

I still regret not being able to go in 2007. Manc Sean and co had a mint time visiting.

[Ian]

Pretty sure the Transformers 2 Chernobyl scene is really informative as well.

[Yevrah]

Are plebs going to use this as an excuse to not build more nuclear plants?

I thought we’d got over that years ago.

[Shindig]

I'd love to go but my cancer odds are short enough as it is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.calvertjournal.com/articles/show/3688/letter-from-ukraine-mining-town-Kryvyi-Rih

I flirted with danger.

[phonics]

C'mon now, you aren't flirting with anything.

[Spikey M]

It took over 4 hours for that joke to be made. We're slipping.

[phonics]

Little Chernobyl thread for y'all on how authentic it is.

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[phonics]

I watched the first episode of Chernobyl on the laptop and rather liked the deepening, yellowish tint to everything that made things look increasingly diseased and dangerous as the episode went on.

I've just put the second on now and realised I forgot to turn f.Lux off the other night before starting the episode, and that tint was just my laptop screen adjusting to the time. :D

I decided to start watching tonight and when it opened with this I remembered this post and made sure to turn it off.

https://i.imgur.com/z1sSXYU.png

edit: Is that opening line a quote of something?

"What is the cost of lies? It's not that we'll mistake them for the truth. The real danger is that if we hear enough lies then we no longer recognize the truth. What can we do then? What is left to abandon even the hope of truth and content ourselves with stories. In these stories it does not matter who is the hero, only who is to blame"

Seems horribly pertinent.

[phonics]

I got to the scene where the old man orders a lockdown of the city ‘to protect against misinformation and the state’ and had to turn it off. This is too dark. The mundanity of evil is too much. You grow up hearing about the incident and what it is today but you forget the human side of it then. I want to do what that bloke with the cat did in the opening scene.

[John]

Just watched the third episode of Chernobyl. Fucking hell.

Fucking hell.

[Yevrah]

On Chernobyl, is Lucy Mangan usually this dense?

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/may/07/chernobyl-review-chaos-reigns-in-confusing-nuclear-disaster-epic

Spoilers for the tv show obvs.

[Kikó]

Does she think it's fiction?

[Yevrah]

I was reading it genuinely at a loss as to why she found the things she did confusing.

Ok, there's stuff it doesn't tell you immediately, but it's clear as fucking day that that's deliberately so as the whole thing is framed from the perspective of those who were involved in it and they didn't know the answers at that point either.

[Spikey M]

That's almost - almost - made me want to create a 'Guardian account' just to call her a cunt.

[Ian]

Because I'm reading the book Neil Cross did I watched the first episode of Luther again last night. I forgot just how preposterous he is.

"She didn't yawn when I pretended to! She did it!"

And nobody goes, "What the fuck, you headcase?"

[Baz]

They do that same yawn thing in the first episode of season two of True Detective. Was enough for me to not bother with the rest, and it sounds like I made a wise choice.

[Disco]

Luther is basically House with a warrant card, he gets away with a load of mental stuff right from the off.

[Mazuuurk]

I'm also on the Chernobyl train. It's so brilliant.

I've seen documentaries, I've read all the wikis etc about this before (you know, the way you get to doing sometimes when getting obsessed with something darkly fascinating like this), and even though I'm supposed to know how it all ends it just holds me off the edge of my seat throughout, I haven't been able to fall asleep after watching the episodes simply out of some strange excitement that instills. It's like they really manage to make you feel the tension and stress of how much is constantly at stake during those hours and how everyone just knows how bad this is but noone is really saying it.


Also, a detail is that the fact that it's all in English is not bothersome at all to me. Normally, I find it strange - like a bit cringeworthy - when someone dramatises real life events (or even just fake ones from a real era) of a non-english speaking country/setting but with all english-speaking actors, but somehow it works out fine here. It feels Russian even though it isn't.

[ItalAussie]

I've finally gotten around to starting "Killing Eve", and having watched the first five episodes, I'm shocked it took me this long to watch something that I was always going to enjoy so much.

It was tricky to watch Bill and not think of The Thick Of It though.

[Yevrah]

I was at the wrap party for Killing Eve. True facts.

[ItalAussie]

I was at the wrap party for Killing Eve. True facts.

How did you swing that?

[Yevrah]

Happened to be the in same hotel for work and me and a couple of other colleagues blagged our way in.

[SvN]

I think Killing Eve is brilliant. It's obviously very silly, but it's so entertaining you don't really care.

[Yevrah]

I still haven't watched it, but the cast were all very enthusiastic about it at the party. Well, until I dropped the Weinstein question, which like discussing a dodgy supply teacher at a school teacher night out, didn't go down well.

Watched episode 4 of Chernobyl this morning and have to say it's the first one that didn't have me gripped all the way through. Obviously still very good, but not brilliant.

[John]

What, in your presumably twelve pints deep mind, was 'the Weinstein question'?

[Yevrah]

I may have asked Sandra Oh if she'd ever been goosed by him....

[Ian]

I was hoping it was just going to be "Would you?"

[Yevrah]

If there's one thing that 12 pints makes you do, it's to not shy away from the big questions.

[Spikey M]

I may have asked Sandra Oh if she'd ever been goosed by him....

And.....

[Yevrah]

After years of experience being in the media spotlight she was hardly about to comment either way to a bloke she'd just met, so I ended the night none the wiser.

[Spikey M]

This could have been the new boards goalkeeper moment. Shame.

[Yevrah]

I mean given what the disgusting man got up to it's likely he at least tried if he ever met her.

[Bernanke]

Watched episode 4 of Chernobyl this morning and have to say it's the first one that didn't have me gripped all the way through. Obviously still very good, but not brilliant.

http://is2.4chan.org/tv/1558643078532.jpg

Thought it was excellent once again. Happy to see Fares Fares.

[SvN]

I thought it was excellent too. The scene on the roof was so well done - the entire thing felt like organised chaos.

[Yevrah]

Thought that bit was great, but the other narrative thread of the episode not so much. Again, still very good, just not excellent.

As an aside, the score might be the most appropriate one ever used in anything. Whenever it plays it adds an air of horror to every scene.

[Shindig]

I may have asked Sandra Oh if she'd ever been goosed by him....

Complete the mental picture by telling me you said this whilst proudly holding a broom.

[Browning]

Just started on Chernobyl after the reviews in here. Fucking hell that was brilliant. I thought initially I would struggle to take the bloke from Friday Night Dinner seriously but he was brilliant in it.

[Spikey M]

I thought that was the best episode since the first, although the quality has been outstanding the whole way through. The dogs, the burial, the roof. Just... fuck.

[mikem]

I mean given what the disgusting man got up to it's likely he at least tried if he ever met her.

Asking people to recount times they’ve been sexually assaulted is much classier. At least you can console yourself with maybe getting her to relive any bad experiences she had for your amusement.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, because I actually did that, in the way I described.

[Ian]

The BBC made a pretty embarrassing error in their splash poster thing for The Planets, which I have now fixed for them:
https://i.imgur.com/bvVgg1c.png

Still need a designer, Baz ?

[John Arne]

The BBC made a pretty embarrassing error in their splash poster thing for The Planets, which I have now fixed for them:
https://i.imgur.com/bvVgg1c.png

Still need a designer, Baz ?

Didn't Pluto get classified as not a proper planet a couple of years ago?

[Ian]

You shut your whore mouth.

[niko_cee]

Can't clear it's own orbit of space debris, apparently, so now it gets to hang out with the real kool kids like Makemake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake).

Also, Pluto only being half the size of the US came as a bit of a shock to me.

[Bernanke]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/EightTNOs.png/1199px-EightTNOs.png

Haumea looks badass. :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Looks like Button Moon. God that was good.

[Mike]

https://media.giphy.com/media/9bp0nmw3bVCg0/giphy.gif

[Kikó]

Trans Neptune objects. Pc gone mad. In my day, it was called a planet.

[Ian]

All you lads who've watched Chernobyl (I have not yet), prepare to have your tiny minds blown:
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[Shindig]

Are we far enough from the Berlin Wall coming down to have Tony Robinson do a Time Team there?

[Baz]

Started Chernobyl.

I presume there are already tons of memes of a shirtless Martin from Friday Night Dinner beside the power plant, and the words “shit on it”?

Also, Ron Wheatcroft of Goodnight Sweetheart fame turning up was a personal highlight. Hard to believe he could have got much fatter, but he sure managed it.

[Browning]

I can't believe Trevor from Eastenders rocked up in Episode 3. What the fuck?

[Yevrah]

Thought he was great.

[Spikey M]

He was.

[Browning]

Yea, he was, it was just odd seeing him after almost 20 years.

All caught up now. It’s all been absolutely brilliant.

[Boydy]

I've been watching it now too after all the hype in here. It really is great.

Shame my housemate keeps talking through it though.

[Alex]

I can't believe Trevor from Eastenders rocked up in Episode 3. What the fuck?

This somehow completely passed me by when I was watching it. Amazing. :D

I did clock the bloke from Goodnight Sweetheart though.

[John]

I've just looked at the filmography of Craig Mazin, the sole writer of Chernobyl, and fuck me it's grim. Bugger knows where he's pulled this from, because everything else he's done has been deeply shit. The third and fourth Scary Movie films, the second and third Hangovers, Superhero Movie (exactly what you think it is), a sequel to fucking Snow White and The Huntsman, and Identity Thief, a film in which Melissa McCarthy steals Jason Bateman's identity. Surely nobody, in any field, has gone that suddenly from abject, embarrassing shite to work that's bordering on perfect.

I thought the fourth episode was every bit as good as what's come before.

[Ian]

And has Charlie's Angels coming up next.

[Baz]

I've just looked at the filmography of Craig Mazin, the sole writer of Chernobyl, and fuck me it's grim. Bugger knows where he's pulled this from, because everything else he's done has been deeply shit. The third and fourth Scary Movie films, the second and third Hangovers:brighton:

The Hangover 2 is one of the funniest films ever.

[Mazuuurk]

I've just looked at the filmography of Craig Mazin, the sole writer of Chernobyl, and fuck me it's grim. Bugger knows where he's pulled this from, because everything else he's done has been deeply shit. The third and fourth Scary Movie films, the second and third Hangovers, Superhero Movie (exactly what you think it is), a sequel to fucking Snow White and The Huntsman, and Identity Thief, a film in which Melissa McCarthy steals Jason Bateman's identity. Surely nobody, in any field, has gone that suddenly from abject, embarrassing shite to work that's bordering on perfect.

I thought the fourth episode was every bit as good as what's come before.

Maybe it's a bit like how Netflix splashes a shitload of cash on Adam Sandler to make films? Like there's talent for creating something good, and talent for creating something successful, if you know what I mean? Maybe he was just finally given the chance to to the former.

I always felt the same a bit about Matthew McConaughey as well, who seemed to do shit roles as your average rom com dude in average rom coms up until he suddenly got proper serious and proper good.

[Ian]

McConnaughey had at least been in some good stuff before he was in all those films where usually his defining character trait was "infrequently wears a shirt."

[Alex]

McConnaughey had at least been in some good stuff before he was in all those films where usually his defining character trait was "infrequently wears a shirt."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvQzA47YIs

:D

[Limoutsonik]

Last Chernobyl episode was released. WOW. It truly is the best series that i have ever seen and unanimously lauded everywhere. Just a gripping,terrifying look into what lies do. Amazing.

[Spikey M]

Every single second of every single episode was perfect.

The best thing I have ever watched.

[mugbull]

Wow. It's a good show, but not that good

[Spikey M]

It really is.

I tend to measure how good things are based on how often I look at my phone whilst they're on. This holds the record. Zero times.

[Yevrah]

Finished episode 5 of it today and thought it was another excellent episode.

Overall for me, there was a slight dip after the first three as I don't think anything ever has captured the terror and confusion of dealing with a real life event on that sort of scale that this show did before, and where could you possibly go after that.

But episodes 4 and 5 were still brilliant and the whole thing is as good (if not better) than anything I've ever seen before. I think it will hold up to repeat viewings as well.

[SvN]

If Mokbull is downplaying it, it must be incredible.

[Boydy]

Finished Chernobyl tonight. It really is up there with the very best tv. Brilliant from start to finish.

Watching When They See Us in Netflix now and it's shaping up to be very good too.

[mugbull]

If Mokbull is downplaying it, it must be incredible.

I got nothing bad to say about it, it just doesn't strike me as the kind of thing that I'll ever want to rewatch or come back to. Good across the board, but I've watched shows that have gripped me more

Maybe part of it is that being Czech I already know all about the bullshit Russian mindset. Also got to factor in the knowledge that despite how serious it was, it really didn't kill very many people, so that past episode 2 you already know everything is going to be fine and they'll figure it out.

[Manc]

How does one get involved without sky?

[Browning]

It's on NOW TV which you can get a 7 day free trial for. Otherwise I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to find it online.

[Mazuuurk]

Yep last episode of Chernobyl was also great.

Amazing that they somehow managed to create an amount of suspense during those scenes leading up to the explosion, even though you knew what was coming already, all the while also somehow explaining the chain-of-events and complexity of a nuclear reactor in the courtroom in a pretty graspable manner.

Then there's stuff like this (note that I havent verified the authenticity at all of that but seems legit): https://www.reddit.com/r/ChernobylTV/comments/bws3a8/i_was_looking_at_old_pictures_of_pripyat_and/

..that just makes all of it even better. That fucking Mickey Mouse statue is haunting.

[Manc]

It's on NOW TV which you can get a 7 day free trial for. Otherwise I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to find it online.

Have all episodes been released?

[Browning]

Yea, the last one was last night.

[Shindig]

I might have to trial that over the next week, then.

[John]

I'm not sure you can compare it to things that have to maintain themselves for sixty episodes, but as far as miniseries go Chernobyl is the best I've watched. I'm still not sure I buy that it came from the man who gave us Scary Movie 4, but there we are.

The performances were uniformly brilliant, but the bloke playing Dyatlov deserves special mention for being the most instantly hateful cunt I've ever seen on television.

[Spikey M]

The highest rated TV show on IMDB :drool:

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Mazuuurk touched on it but you know it's good when the last episode can feel as tense as that despite already knowing so much beforehand.

I do wonder if the real Dyatlov was such a cunt, it almost seemed like he was trolling.

[Shindig]

A quick wiki doesn't have much on him. I wonder if his book's worth a read?

[Kikó]

Loved the last episode. Echo what's already been said but really incredible television. Now to crack onto this book - https://wordery.com/chernobyl-012340-andrew-leatherbarrow-9780993597503?currency=GBP&gtrck=andqUlFoa3V4S1dCSVBuaVlzdjdxL21abzhZK0xRVkRE eW40YkdvckdiMDI5RUJhM1pnUUthL04vekFsU3kzTldYK1RhM2 psemFVVEk5NEppdWNJT2c9PQ&gclid=Cj0KEQjw8-LnBRCyxtfMl-Cbu48BEiQA6eUMGiPfco_QGUB9xTwgTMd3eHCCvh4UvKGyQrKJ dv2u4fEaAmnK8P8HAQ

He even references his posts on Reddit.

[Magic]

Good Omens is good.

[ItalAussie]

I've finally gotten around to starting "Killing Eve", and having watched the first five episodes, I'm shocked it took me this long to watch something that I was always going to enjoy so much.

It was tricky to watch Bill and not think of The Thick Of It though.
Back end of the season did very little for me, to be honest. Going to put it aside for a moment and burn through Good Omens instead.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48559289

Russia are making their own mini-series to show that the CIA were involved. lol.

[SincereTheRebel]

I dont want much tv at all but I've started watching Chernobyl and I'm 10 minutes in and im disappointed, its not in the native language of Ukraine.

[randomlegend]

Just got round to watching season 3 of Daredevil.

The weird 'Karen' episode aside I thought it was genuinely brilliant.

[Yevrah]

Watched one of the new episodes of Black Mirror tonight, Striking Vipers. Thought it was good.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive watched two episodes of Chernobyl and it is really interesting. Im still trying to figure out why are this shit happened in the first place, but its fucking bonkers tv show.

[mugbull]

I dont want much tv at all but I've started watching Chernobyl and I'm 10 minutes in and im disappointed, its not in the native language of Ukraine.

Guess what that language is called

[SincereTheRebel]

Guess what that language is called

Russian?

[mugbull]

Close

[Spikey M]

Ukrainese

[John]

Ukrainium.

[Spikey M]

Damn it.

[Shindig]

Ive watched two episodes of Chernobyl and it is really interesting. Im still trying to figure out why are this shit happened in the first place, but its fucking bonkers tv show.

It's the pressure of keeping the state sweet.

[Baz]

I’ve just realised there’s a season 11 of the X-Files. :eek:

Season ten sucked so bad (although compared to Twin Peaks season 3, it was a masterpiece) but I may as well finish the entire catalogue.

[Disco]

Ukrainium.

The new hit song from Peter Andre.

[SvN]

Watched one of the new episodes of Black Mirror tonight, Striking Vipers. Thought it was good.

I'd seen that the series had received mediocre reviews and feared the worst. I just finished the third episode, and thought all three were very good. Definitely not up there with the very best episodes, but all three were above average. I'd give it a good 8/10.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive watched two episodes of Chernobyl and it is really interesting. Im still trying to figure out why are this shit happened in the first place, but its fucking bonkers tv show.

That was a good watch. I like the education factor. Ive heard stories about Chernobyl and radiation but never gave it too much though. Is there anything else like this that can be recommended?

[Shindig]

Look up Hisashi Ouchi.

[Yevrah]

Contains disturbing shit:

https://www.unbelievable-facts.com/2016/12/hisashi-ouchi.html

Keeping him alive is sick beyond belief.

[Spikey M]

Fucking hell

[Yevrah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y-I5BbjwNI

[Ian]

Well that's cheered me right up, that has.

[Yevrah]

One of the worst things I've read about I think.

[Ian]

I love that 9 weeks after he'd been asked to be allowed to die they're still going "Nah he can take it."

[SincereTheRebel]

Thats madness. Im never going near a radiator again.

[Pepe]

:D

[Yevrah]

I love that 9 weeks after he'd been asked to be allowed to die they're still going "Nah he can take it."

Indeed. Living for another month after all your skin has gone, I mean, I don't even...

[John]

The Japanese have never been shy about doing bonkers experiments on humans just to see what they can find out, although generally it's not on one of their own.

Some of the shit they did to Chinese prisoners during WW2 was properly unhinged, like skinning people alive to see how long a person can live without skin, or rearranging people's gastrointestinal system to make sure we had the most efficient arrangement. Look up 'Unit 731' if you want to thoroughly spoil your Saturday.

[SincereTheRebel]

Is there a movie or series related to it or anything else like Chernobyl?

[Spikey M]

There's a few documentaries on Youtube about it.

[Shindig]

Cashed in a Now TV trial to watch it. Fuck.

[Ian]

The Japanese have never been shy about doing bonkers experiments on humans just to see what they can find out, although generally it's not on one of their own.

Some of the shit they did to Chinese prisoners during WW2 was properly unhinged, like skinning people alive to see how long a person can live without skin, or rearranging people's gastrointestinal system to make sure we had the most efficient arrangement. Look up 'Unit 731' if you want to thoroughly spoil your Saturday.

Yeah I've read up on them before. Proper nutcases.

[Boydy]

Ouchi indeed.

[Disco]

Then after the war ended everyone squabbled over who would get all the research and most of the people in that unit were let off entirely.

[John]

Then after the war ended everyone squabbled over who would get all the research and most of the people in that unit were let off entirely.

Didn't America just hoover up all the Japanese research/personnel, and any squabbling was over where the Germans wound up?

[Disco]

Us and the Russians both wanted all the data from 731 (which turned out to be useless), most of the 'doctors' ended up in the US or simply went home to Japan and carried on practicing.

[Shindig]

Don't get me started on their porn.

[Spikey M]

We didn't.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Please stop it Spikey.

[Ian]

Classic Spikey.

[Shindig]

That's all of Chernobyl watched. I've heard all the stories before but the Soviet politicking was right up my John Le Carre alley.

[Yevrah]

May have already been posted, but can't wait to see this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48559289

[Dark Soldier]

New Black Mirror is absolute shit.

[The Merse]

Chernobyl was fucking excellent, then. I really didn’t expect that much, being quite familiar with the scientists vs state storyline and the events leading up to it, but the execution of the story was top notch. At least Sky Atlantic has given me one thing this year.

Good Omens was disappointing. It’s decent enough, but far too short for my liking and much of the humour didn’t translate. The characters simply didn’t seem well drawn out enough for me. I’d also have liked it to have retained its 80s/90s setting rather than them having to swap out period pieces. Still, I’d recommend for those not familiar with the book.

[John]

May have already been posted, but can't wait to see this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48559289

Lol at the government giving them four hundred grand. That would probably just about cover the catering bill for the Sky/HBO effort.

[John]

Michael Schur has announced that the fourth season of The Good Place will be the last, and that they're going out on their own terms telling the full story they mapped out at the beginning of writing season two. Disappointed that it's ending, but it's generally good when the creative team are the ones drawing the line rather than the network just binning it on a cliffhanger.

[Byron]

Just finished episode 2 of Chernobyl and Jesus it really is as good as everyone says it is.

[randomlegend]

The new Taskmaster season isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be given the cast (first episode aside).

[Byron]

Well binged the whole thing. I can't remember the last time I saw something so harrowing and yet so addictive at the same time. It's one of the best things I've ever watched.

[Magic]

Will it come to netflix or prime? Can't be arsed watching it on sky.

[Shindig]

Can you be arsed with a free Now TV trial?

[Magic]

Can you be arsed with a free Now TV trial?

Absolutely not.

[Spikey M]

Given its success, you'll be waiting a long time for it to be on another platform.

[Magic]

Given its success, you'll be waiting a long time for it to be on another platform.

In today's context, 2 weeks then?

[Boydy]

It's HBO, it won't end up on anything else.

[Yevrah]

It’ll be out on dvd etc in no time one might imagine.

[Spikey M]

It will, but if he can't be arsed to sign up for a free trial then a trip to HMV is probably off the menu.

[Magic]

I think he meant for torrenting, newb.

[Boydy]

It'll be available for torrenting now. You won't have to wait for a DVD to come out to get a torrent.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think he meant for torrenting, newb.

Learn to internet.

[Spikey M]

I think he meant for torrenting, newb.

Why does a DVD have to be out for a torrent to be available? Noob.

[Magic]

Why does a DVD have to be out for a torrent to be available? Noob.

Jesus christ have I woken up in 2003 or something.

[Spikey M]

L2 wifi-solutions

[Magic]

Am I 2003'ing myself. A full circle moment.

[Spikey M]

JUST SIGN UP FOR THE FUCKING NOWTV FREE TRIAL AND WATCH THE FINEST SERIES SINCE MOKBULLS MUMS WOMB WENT ONE ON ONE WITH A COATHANGER.

cheers.

[Lewis]

Will I need a Wi-Fi extender to torrent?

[Spikey M]

Only if you don't live in a shoebox.

[Magic]

Only if you don't live in a shoebox.

What about a basement.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What if you've given said shoebox away?

[mugbull]

Tbt when i torrented shows at university and got a letter from the school IT office telling me to stop or else they’d cut off my WiFi access for the rest of the academic year

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tbt when i torrented shows at university and got a letter from the school IT office telling me to stop or else they’d cut off my WiFi access for the rest of the academic year

What a baller.

[Byron]

I'll take things that didn't happen for $800 Alex.

[mugbull]

They also demanded that I delete the files I had torrented, which I did, but looking back I have no idea how they’d be able to tell what was on my local filesystem. Dicks.

[Mazuuurk]

Sir, kindly return the pornography to the internet.

[Magic]

They also demanded that I delete the files I had torrented, which I did, but looking back I have no idea how they’d be able to tell what was on my local filesystem. Dicks.

We can see you've been up to that shit here, please kindly delete your account.

[mugbull]

You wouldn’t download a website??

[Giggles]

150 Tera knots of data.

[mugbull]

Bet you couldn’t tell a kilobyte from a kilogram, Gramps

[Giggles]

I'm not the one that's had struggles with units scaldy.

[Manc]

First episode of Chernobyl watched and I'm filled with dread.

[mugbull]

You'd struggle with a unit like me. Shape up

[Lewis]

I used my Wi-Fi extender to watch Chernobyl, and it's pretty brilliant (the odd unnecessary thing aside, shite about the 'Bridge of Death' and that). I know a fair bit about it all as well and I still found it riveting.

[Lewis]

'Nikolai Tarakanov, yeah. IQ of 142. One of the cleverest blokes I know. Certainly the cleverest bloke you know.'

[Yevrah]

I think people struggle to get their heads around the lack of deaths caused by Chernobyl and that’s where the Bridge of Death comes in.

They stood and watched it from close ish proximity? They must be dead now then right?

[Bernanke]

I think people struggle to get their heads around the lack of deaths caused by Chernobyl and that’s where the Bridge of Death comes in.

They stood and watched it from close ish proximity? They must be dead now then right?

There was a quote about it in the epilogue saying they are all dead by now I think?

[Yevrah]

The subtitles didn’t appear on the version I downloaded so I didn’t see that at the time, but there’s apparently no evidence that (m)any of them are dead.

[Lewis]

If there was enough contamination reaching that bridge by that point everyone would have been wading through it the next morning, which would have done the whole town and any/all visitors in.

[Magic]

Still reeling from that torture of GENERIC JAPANESE ASSISTANT 34.

[Shindig]

There's definitely some artistic license with Chernobyl. Mazin goes into some of them on the podcast but there's other things that get drama-d up.

- The helicopter crash happened six months after the accident. It was due to a collision with a crane, not radiation.
- Science woman is a composite of the many scientists that sprang into action in the wake of the disaster.
- Threats of execution against scientists were uncommon by that time. The series loves to lay that on.
- Dyatalov's account of a calm control room gets thrown out. As does the legwork he did in the immediate aftermath.
- Akimov and Dyatalov both reported to the higher ups there was a fire but both had no idea of a blown reactor until later.
- Dyatalov has always blamed design rather than personnel or the test itself as the problem.

[Smjffy]

This 'When They See Us, mini series thing in Netflix is uncomfortable viewing.

[Kikó]

Finished a book about Chernobyl and the estimates of Chernobyl deaths are anywhere between 31 (the official count) to 7 figures (Greenpeace). It's one of those hard to directly attribute deaths to due to the longer term impacts and why loads of them croaked not longer after with cancers (huge spike in thyroid cancers).

The nuclear power plants were unsafe and even with the test, it was a ticking time bomb. Interesting to note the Fukishima power plant have equally dealt with their reactor disaster in a terrible way. Now that's another interesting story to get into.

[Lewis]

I think the Japanese did about as well as could be expected to say they were lucky the entire plant didn't fall to bits. We had a bit of a scrape in 1957 at Windscale and then lied to the Americans about what happened. :cool:

[mugbull]

My mom is still convinced her brother died due to Chernobyl, in Czechoslovakia. Almost certainly had nothing to do with it but if you count up all these stories from adamant family members I'm sure you could reach into the millions.

You could do some statistical analysis on cancer death rates over time and arrive at a decent estimate, and I think that's where the 6,000 figure comes from.

[Lewis]

It's the same with all the nuclear test veterans. Their rates of illness are no different from the rest of the population, and half of those claiming to have seen the flash and the cloud weren't even anywhere near it.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im two episodes in on ’When they see us’ and its complete madness.

[Clunge]

Munched through episodes 1-3 of Chernobyl. The finale of ep2 with the vicious hum of the geiger counters in the dark was savage.

[The Merse]

This 'When They See Us, mini series thing in Netflix is uncomfortable viewing.

EP 4 is the killer. Fuck.

[Mazuuurk]

Interesting to note the Fukishima power plant have equally dealt with their reactor disaster in a terrible way. Now that's another interesting story to get into.

I guess this is the thing with Nuclear reactors though, thats one of the things that gets me with Chernobyl as well - there isn't much precedent to work off. I suppose even much newer and more modern reactors might at some point fail in the world, and if/when they do similar situations of "what the fuck do we actually do now" will present themselves.

[Spikey M]

We send in previously-failed Scottish actors to dig them up. Naked.

[SincereTheRebel]

EP 4 is the killer. Fuck.

I creid during the same episode and also cried during eposide one



When they were all in the cell after meeting for the first time and admitted. That they lied on each other

[The Merse]

I creid during the same episode and also cried during eposide one



When they were all in the cell after meeting for the first time and admitted. That they lied on each other



3 main chokers for me.


That bit
The bits where the father of the little guy realised just what he’d done and the guilt that came with that
Pretty much all of Ep 4, but particularly when he was told of the confession

In general, another big ‘fuck off’ to the notion of America as land of the brave etc, though I’ve always said that America simply magnifies a lot of the bad shit across the west and which originates this side of the pond.

Assume you’ve seen 13? Also by duVerney, a documentary about the justice systems impact on African Americans as a whole, very much an impassioned statement rather than a real study of the subject, but well made and a perfect compliment to this and the (excellent, like everything he touches) Ken Burns documentary on the Central Park attack.

[randomlegend]

Didn't realise they'd made a TV show of What We Do In The Shadows. Only watched the first episode but it's great.

Also hadn't realised Taskmaster had restarted until the other day. The cast reads like absolute dogshit but - the first episode aside - it's nowhere near as bad as I expected.

[SvN]

I watched the first half of the first episode the other day and was struggling to get into it before I fell asleep. I loved the film, so going to persist with it.

[The Merse]

I found the first couple of episodes less instantly enjoyable than the film. The TV show peaks at Ep 6 & 7 (all I’m up to), both of which are fucking class.

Some great guest appearances too.

[Smjffy]

@Merse, your three chokes are bang on the money.

Any similar films/series of that nature? Or any suggestions. Preferably Netflix.

[Boydy]

Time: The Kalief Browder Story is meant to be good. 13th that Merse was talking about is very good. I watched it after When They See Us.

I think they're both on Netflix.

[The Merse]

+2 for the Bowder story, another which features in the 13th.

The Confession Tapes has just hit series 2 and is also a good watch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jessica Jones season 3 done.

It was margionally better than the second season but nowhere near the level of the first season, largely due to the antagonist who just can't compete with Kilgrave.

It also really dragged in parts and there was too much Hogarth, a character than I really don't care for at all.

I think I'd place the various series in the following order: Daredevil, Punisher, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and then Iron Fist.

[Ian]

Is JJ3 worth bothering with, 'How? Punisher 2 (which I haven't watched yet) sounded good but from what I've read this sounds a bit rubbish and aimless, and given it's going nowhere anyway I'm not convinced there's much point.

[phonics]

On th whole 'people in jail for bad reasons' theme, everyone should watch Off The Rails.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjzrv4VMvaU

[The Merse]

That seems mad enough to be enjoyable (not really a question of wrongful imprisonment as a question of how the system can deal with such a case surely?)

Is it on any of the subscriber platforms you know of?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is JJ3 worth bothering with, 'How? Punisher 2 (which I haven't watched yet) sounded good but from what I've read this sounds a bit rubbish and aimless, and given it's going nowhere anyway I'm not convinced there's much point.

Not really, it doesn't actively add much and there's not going to be another season. There are good bits about it but it's still only mediocre as a whole.

Punisher 2 on the other hand is great.

[phonics]

That seems mad enough to be enjoyable (not really a question of wrongful imprisonment as a question of how the system can deal with such a case surely?)

Is it on any of the subscriber platforms you know of?

It's a truly mad story, they even banned him from being able to work at the MTA museum.

Apple only sadly. I downloaded it.

[Shindig]

How ... did he get the uniform? Actually, forget that. It's a hi-vis and an MTA cap.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I have been trying to get through Gotham for a while now. I'll take extended breaks from episodes, I'll force myself to watch them, I'll put them on in the background etc etc but I think I'm done.

I'm near the end of season 4 and Barbara's storyline is so fucking bad. I've also got a problem with the time period, it's very 70s/80s but also very early 00's which just doesn't sit right and bar a few moments they generally can't nail any of the villains as they come across as proper panto shit rather than menacing/evil etc. I really don't know how/why it's so highly rated.

There have been some decent moments along the way (I actually really liked the last few episodes of season 3 and the first half of season 4) but fuck me there's so much wrong with it and I don't know why I keep trying to finish it.

Barbara as the fucking Demon's Head is so fucking stupid as was her taking on a League trained assassin, someone who has trained his whole life to kill, and beating him with pretty much one motion.

[phonics]

How ... did he get the uniform? Actually, forget that. It's a hi-vis and an MTA cap.

He would befriend drivers and take over their shifts.

[The Merse]

30 minutes of Catch-22 and it’s recognisable Clooney fare. I enjoy his schtick so it should bode well.

[Shindig]

He would befriend drivers and take over their shifts.

That's heartwarming. Or extremely manipulative. Depends on the background music, really.

[Kikó]

4 episodes into Killing Eve. I can see why this has been so popular. Quality stuff from the BBC.

[SincereTheRebel]

There is an hour long interview to go with When They See Us. Korey looks awful.

https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80200549

[Browning]

4 episodes into Killing Eve. I can see why this has been so popular. Quality stuff from the BBC.

I've started this recently too and just finished the first episode of Season 2. Really enjoying it.

[Manc]

Sandra Oh is such a sexless individual. Last few episodes of S2 really let the show down imo.

[The Merse]

Definitely not as strong as S1, but still very good.

Just finished The Virtues. Fucking hell, that's harrowing stuff.

[randomlegend]

It strayed too far from 'needs reasonable suspension of disbelief' to 'this is just fucking stupid' when they seemingly decided to completely forget Villanelle was a prolific serial killer to try and catch the other two.

[mugbull]

Season 1 is already requiring a weird suspension of disbelief.

That dude getting stabbed like 50 times in Fabric while everyone keeps techno-raving and she gets away was the most egregious example

[Max Power]

Definitely not as strong as S1, but still very good.

Just finished The Virtues. Fucking hell, that's harrowing stuff.
Harrowing is the word. What a performance by Stephen Graham. Can’t really think of anything better in short form television.

[SincereTheRebel]

I need english subtitles, season one of Narcos links

[Boydy]

I need english subtitles, season one of Narcos links

https://www.netflix.com/

[SincereTheRebel]

https://www.netflix.com/

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o7aTLhoDUdLALkXBe/giphy.gif?cid=19f5b51a5d17a94c6c7645714d468f13&rid=giphy.gif

[John]

You've done well to find a torrent of a Netflix show that doesn't have subtitles in sixteen languages included in the file.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Watched most of Evil Genius on the flight home. Its fucking good.

[Yevrah]

Saw that a while ago and while I liked it there isn't enough there for the run time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In the actual crime sure but I've liked the roads they've gone down thus far (I'm halfway through episode 3).

[mo]

Been watching No Offence (about to finish series 2) on All 4. Joanna Scanlan is brilliant in it (still weird seeing Terri running the show but whatevs) and it’s produced by Paul Abbott so has a very ‘Shameless’ feel about it for a police drama.