Do we live in a golden age of television?

[Disco]

Man in the High Castle is interesting at least, although I have a feeling it's going to concentrate on the resistance side of things rather than the broader political angles which would be slightly disappointing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I started on Rick and Morty the other day.

I thought it was going to be a bit shit for some reason but I think it's brilliant.

[Alex]

I started watching The Path yesterday on Amazon. I don't think it's one of their own, it's just available on there for streaming. It's got Aaron Paul in it, he's in some sort of weird religious cult. It's seemed quite good based on the first two episodes.

Before that I finished season two of The Man in the High Castle. I felt the same way I felt about the first season, the story doesn't seem to actual advance much but I'm more than happy to keep watching it because it looks great and the premise is totally fascinating.

[Spikey M]

Four episodes into Wayward Pines and it's still interesting. Having the main character as a complete prick is an interesting approach.

The first series is good. The second was fucking shit, sadly.

[Alex]

The first series is good. The second was fucking shit, sadly.

Agreed.

[Giggles]

High Castle gets much better in series 2.

[Raoul Duke]

There's a two-hour Sense8 Xmas special out, which I'm looking forward to. It was a cracking series - very Heroes-esque (the first season, before it turned into nonsense).

[Boydy]

I started on Rick and Morty the other day.

I thought it was going to be a bit shit for some reason but I think it's brilliant.

I've given this a second chance recently after watching the first episode ages ago and not really liking it. Glad I did now as it's great.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Meeseeks is probably my favourite episode thus far.

[Boydy]

:D

Yeah, that one was brilliant.

[ItalAussie]

Started Westworld. Three episodes in. It's good.

[Jeet]

I started on Rick and Morty the other day.

I thought it was going to be a bit shit for some reason but I think it's brilliant.

Got laughed at when I first mentioned it on the old thread, now everyone jumping on the bandwagon...

[mo]

Just finishing season 2 of Fargo - really enjoyed it, although Kirsten Dunst's character annoyed the piss out of me.

[Baz]

Today shall be spent watching all four episodes of Stephen Kings The Stand. Can't remember the last time I watched something on DVD. Would have been easier to illegally download cos I wouldn't have to switch discs, but she wouldn't have been able to unwrap that and get chuffties cos she loved the book. :moop:

Hope it's better than the two part IT shitfest.



The first series is good. The second was fucking shit, sadly.At least it's got the legendary Jason Patric in. I'm two episodes in though and it does seem bad. I hated the first series by the end though.

[Spikey M]

I gave up after episode 3 of the second series. It was jist repeating the first series but with a new bloke and a suspiciously Indian sounding Spaniard.

[ItalAussie]

Started Westworld. Three episodes in. It's good.

All ten episodes done. It's just about alright. B to B+, depending on whether you have more tolerance than I do.

Wildly overrated though.

[Yevrah]

Anyone else watched Goliath (Amazon original)? I'm 6 episodes in and it's not dreadful and probably worth it for Tania Raymonde's hooker turn alone.

[Baz]

So The Stand just fizzles out as if it didn't know how to end. I'm told the book actually ended differently, so I've no idea why the show didn't actually have an end. Was enjoyable enough, I guess. Hopefully the tv adaption of The Passage will show it how it's done.

Molly Ringwald is repulsive too. How she got so much work in the 80s and 90s boggles my mind. She is disgusting.

[phonics]

I too caught up on Westworld. What a load of wank. Who thought the intriguing part of a Wild West Robot story would be corporate infighting and a whiney b-tier writing crying about creative freedom? I assume it's supposed to be allegorical but it's just WANK.

[Alex]

Anyone else watched Goliath (Amazon original)? I'm 6 episodes in and it's not dreadful and probably worth it for Tania Raymonde's hooker turn alone.

Good God, yes. :nodd:

It's a decent little show on the whole though, I watched it all over the course of a couple of nights I think. Billy Bob is (predictably) great in it.

There's just always something about Amazon Originals though, don't you think? They never seem quite as slick or as well produced as their Netflix counter parts. I can't quite explain it, but they always leave me with that feeling that I'm not watching "proper" tele, if that makes sense.

[Dquincy]

Dee is coming back to Neighbours. Use to have a massive hard on for that lady.

[Giggles]

Wasn't she the blonde with the huge jaws and a chin like an arse?

[Dquincy]

That's the one, she also had banging tits.

http://img1.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/6/y/6ykmkhsnve1969kv.jpg?djet1p5k

http://www.angelfire.com/nb2/ngirls/images/madeleinewest007.jpg

http://i2.listal.com/image/3368202/600full-madeleine-west.jpg

[Raoul Duke]

Soaps are always resurrecting teen jailbait that's now turned into MILFs. It's a classic trope, and one I fully endorse.

On a different topic: anyone watched The OA or The Expanse on Netflix? I finished the former yesterday and am just starting on the latter. Both good, but I have some mild beef with how The OA ended. Felt a bit rushed and anti-climatic to me.

[Jeet]

Dee is coming back to Neighbours. Use to have a massive hard on for that lady.

Same - Her baps! :drool: Watch her in Satisfaction too playing an escort.

She's got 6 kids though! Has aged badley though http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3514844/How-does-Neighbours-star-mother-SIX-Madeleine-West-35-shows-incredible-figure.html

edit: Explains why she looks diff - In July 2002, West was hit by a bus in Sydney. The actress was also robbed while she was unconscious. West needed reconstructive plastic surgery

Classic pic

https://up1.xhcdn.com/000/011/001/361_1000.jpg

[Pleb]

Shameful Lustage :drool:

[Dquincy]

She's still banging, even after 6 kids. Admittedly her vag may resemble a wizards sleeve in it's current state, but i'd still go there.

Pleb That's harsh. Nothing shameful about Dee.

[Pleb]

I must admit she's not my type but I would.

[Dquincy]

Naughty.

http://forums.auscelebs.net/acnet-images/103920/madeleine-west-771320.jpg

http://forums.auscelebs.net/acnet-images/104630/madeleine-west-795228.jpg

[Giggles]

She's no flick.

[Dquincy]

Flick was a frog faced slag. Still would tho.

Remember Annalise?

[Giggles]

Flick was a frog faced slag. Still would tho.

Remember Annalise?

She the one Dr K was horsing behind the wife's back?

[Dquincy]

No that was Sarah. She was tidy as well though. I'll find some pics....

[Dquincy]

Sarah:

http://www.neighboursepisodes.com/images18/27080013.jpg

Annalise:

http://www.neighboursepisodes.com/images25/2435b.jpg

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/20/590x/secondary/Annalise-neighbours-494036.jpg

[Giggles]

Yeah, Sarah ftw.

[Raoul Duke]

That Annalise was bonkers.

Her and Seven of Nine on Star Trek :drool:

[ScousePig]

She's no Kym Valentine.

[Mike]

Remember the old Neighbours thread :cool2:

[Jeet]

Remember the old Neighbours thread :cool2:

Sure I member!

Saw Max on the last season of Ash vs Evil Dead playing a sheriff for a few eps

[Baz]

She the one Dr K was horsing behind the wife's back?That was Izzy. I remember because Susan was hilarious in calling her Jezebel rather than Isabelle. :harold:

[Alex]

Karl. :cool:

What a lad he was. He must have had at least a couple more affairs since I stopped watching it. I sort of miss Neighbours. I was a huge fan for a time, probably peaking during my university days. Never missed it. The Neighbours thread was my favourite thing on this board back then as well. We had a right little gang on the go in there.

If I remember right Dee was washed out to sea or something, never to be seen again? Which would basically make this a total re-hash of what happened to Harold.

[Raoul Duke]

Pretty sure Dr. Karl was in a band and played our Uni summer ball :cool:

[Alex]

He definitely was in a band. They were called "Waiting Room" I believe. :D

I think he just toured all the university campuses. I never saw them though. :(

[Giggles]

That was Izzy. I remember because Susan was hilarious in calling her Jezebel rather than Isabelle. :harold:

Ah Izzy. I remember her now. She looked like a total filthbag too.
Dr K :cool:

[Boydy]

Finished the first series of Happy Valley last night. Is the second series as good?

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

I thought the second series was better.

[Baz]

I finished Wayward Pines, thankfully. I can't believe there's a third season coming. :sick:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Midway through High Castle second series, I still fucking hate both Frank and Juliana. Stop poncing about the pair of you.

Inspector Kido remains the world boss.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Midway through High Castle second series, I still fucking hate both Frank and Juliana. Stop poncing about the pair of you.

Inspector Kido remains the world boss.

Last 3 episodes or so got really good.

[Giggles]

Last 3 episodes or so got really good.

Happy days. That's exactly what I have left to watch.

The first half of series 2 is still much better than series 1 as it is anyway.

[Dquincy]

Ah Izzy. I remember her now. She looked like a total filthbag too.
Dr K :cool:

Izzy was so naughty looking. :drool:
Cannie remember her having an affair with dr karl tho.

[Alex]

I finished Wayward Pines, thankfully. I can't believe there's a third season coming. :sick:

:sick:

I assumed it was done with.

[Yevrah]

Good God, yes. :nodd:

It's a decent little show on the whole though, I watched it all over the course of a couple of nights I think. Billy Bob is (predictably) great in it.

There's just always something about Amazon Originals though, don't you think? They never seem quite as slick or as well produced as their Netflix counter parts. I can't quite explain it, but they always leave me with that feeling that I'm not watching "proper" tele, if that makes sense.

Yeah, it does, although I say that having not seen that many of them. Goliath was a case in point though, it looked as though it was going to be a top quality production but by the end had fallen someway short in terms of both production values and writing.

Still, I quite enjoyed it mind. Billy Bob was top notch, despite probably phoning it in.

[John Arne]

Homeland (season 6) is back sooner than expected. Episode 1 available now.

[Baz]

I've started The Man In The High Castle.

[Giggles]

Sherlock is getting universally panned then. It's understandably been going downhill since day one but I still thought it was better than most things on TV.

[Shindig]

Caught up with 2016 Wipe. Probably Charlie's best. If only they let him do more Gameswipe. :(

[Kikó]

Agreed. He nailed it. The only shit bit was cunk explaining the end of days.

It did remind me that I'm seeing Cox live in a few weeks talking about big data. I treat the missus well.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Sherlock is getting universally panned then. It's understandably been going downhill since day one but I still thought it was better than most things on TV.

It was a bit crap.

I've liked the lot so far as well although the one off before this was merely decent.

[GS]

It was okay, but it's not as good as it was. The whole point of Sherlock is that he's supposed to solve complicated, strange, supposedly-unsolvable crimes in a brilliantly clever fashion. They have fantastic source material in the original stories and novels, and almost everything therein, especially in the short stories, is geared towards his solving of the crime. There's very little happens that doesn't have a material impact on his deductions and how he ultimately solves the case. That's the whole point.

The non-crime solving areas they're fleshing out massively in the TV series (e.g. John's marriage to Mary, Mycroft as a central character etc.) are, broadly speaking, superfluous in the context of what Sherlock Holmes is supposed to be about. They've basically moved it to a point where the actual solving of the crime is barely the central point of the episode any more.

I think they've just bought into the hype far too much. They really think they're somehow 'improving' the originals, and you get the sense that the need to actually solve a crime as part of the episode is almost an inconvenience. Take last night - solves the 'murder' within about fifteen minutes, solves the Six Napoleons aspect (from the original ACD story) by about half-way, and then the rest of the episode is spent indulging this borderline-ludicrous Mary Watson angle. At least they've killed her off, but even that was just stupid in its execution.

It's actually quite annoying, because the raw components are still there for it to be a really great show. As it is, you couldn't exactly complain if it was quietly shelved after this series is finished. If they do another series after this, they might actually destroy it and it probably doesn't deserve that.

[Giggles]

Well whatever about the double episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine (had some good bits), dafuq was that ending?

[Jimmy Floyd]

End of High Castle.


Is that the end of the whole thing, then? It was brilliantly done, seeing that fucking whiny Joe getting clapped in irons was the highlight of the whole thing, as was the tedious wanker Frank getting blown up after miserably failing to assassinate the great man - who, by being both shot and blown up yet still surviving to save the world, is the boss of the whole show.

I thought the stupid tosser teenage boy was going to perfect the ending by realising the Nazis talk shit, but apparently not.

[John Arne]

Season 1 or 2?

[John Arne]

Well whatever about the double episode of Brooklyn Nine Nine (had some good bits), dafuq was that ending?

You know what.... I think it's done. I was prepared to forgive a few slow episodes, but the last 5 have raised about 3 lols between them. It needs to do some serious work to save this season.

[phonics]

None of those 20 episode comedies should ever go past 3 seasons. It's always downhill from there.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Parks and Rec being the obvious exception. I'm only mid-way through the third season of Brooklyn 99, when is it that it starts to noticeably go downhill?

[phonics]

Parks and Rec being the obvious exception. I'm only mid-way through the third season of Brooklyn 99, when is it that it starts to noticeably go downhill?

In that it started terrible and stayed that way? I guess.

[Giggles]

Parks and Rec being the obvious exception. I'm only mid-way through the third season of Brooklyn 99, when is it that it starts to noticeably go downhill?

4th series, most of it. Though I quite liked the Florida bits.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

In that it started terrible and stayed that way? I guess.

:uhoh:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Don't worry, he's a souless gimp.

He can have the first season (although I still quite like it) but after that it's stunning.

[phonics]

You're still watching Archer.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Which, bar the Vice season, is amazing.

[phonics]

Yeah, that bit where he shouts LANNNNA just cracks me up every time. What a hoot.

edit: Oh man, just remembered 'That's how you get ants'. I think the 78th time he said it was just about the best delivery of a line since Shakespeare.

[Mazuuurk]

Archer is amazing, Phonics.

But, if you don't care for that kind of humour, you're simply missing out.
Bet you don't like Rick & Morty either (thought that said my lass loves archer but hates Rick & Morty, so I guess it's possible).

[Mazuuurk]

Which, bar the Vice season, is amazing.

Apparently the new season is going to be "In Archers head" as he's in a coma and be a bit crazy. Not sure how chuffed I am about that but let's see. Basically, I think they feel they can't keep up his arsehole-ness if he actually ends up having a proper relationship with Lana, so I think they feel they need to sort of reset the series.

[Adamski]

I gave up on Brooklyn 99 after the first season.

Not a fan of those slapstick shows in self contained episodes with no overarching storyline.

[phonics]

Rick & Morty, Bobs Burgers, that shitty one about a horse.

They're all wank.

Just remembered that effing terrible one that is set inside a national park. They're all so, so bad.

[Mazuuurk]

Each to their own.

[Baz]

I agree with phonics.

Add Family Guy, American Shitgash and South Park to the list too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Family Guy and American Dad you can have.

South Park is a work of art.

You and Phonics hate them all purely because of 'Cartoons are for kids lol' probably.

[Giggles]

I agree with Baz on American Dad and South Park. Though the former is more just harmlessely nondescript as opposed to utter dross.

[Baz]

South Park was funny, but I don't know if that's because it's gone bad (like The Simpsons) or I've grown out of it.

The film was hilarious when it came out on DVD but I've not watched it since, and fear it may not live up to the memory.

It's nothing to do with them being cartoons, only aside from "not funny" it's the only thing that links them.

[Magic]

Each to their own.

Exactly. People in liking different things shocker!

P.s Adamski is wrong

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

South Park was funny, but I don't know if that's because it's gone bad (like The Simpsons) or I've grown out of it.

The film was hilarious when it came out on DVD but I've not watched it since, and fear it may not live up to the memory.

It's nothing to do with them being cartoons, only aside from "not funny" it's the only thing that links them.
Fair play.

I assumed you hadn't given any of them a chance and were purely judging them for being animated.

[Boydy]

I like most of these animated shows being mentioned but Bojack Horseman is on another level. It's art. It's one if the best things I've ever seen.

[randomlegend]

Yeah, that bit where he shouts LANNNNA just cracks me up every time. What a hoot.

edit: Oh man, just remembered 'That's how you get ants'. I think the 78th time he said it was just about the best delivery of a line since Shakespeare.

You must have watched quite a bit of it considering how much you hated it.

[Boydy]

Doesn't Phonics like anime? :harold:

[phonics]

You must have watched quite a bit of it considering how much you hated it.

Yep, hence the 'still' in the original post and as I said above it, no 20 episode comedy should be going above 3 seasons.


Doesn't Phonics like anime? :harold:

Like 4 of them because they're badass. I'm being quite reasonable.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You must have watched quite a bit of it considering how much you hated it.


The Burgers one. Archer was quite good until it jumped the shark around the Archer Vice period.

So he enjoyed 4 seasons.

It also got a lot better after the Vice season.

[John]

Archer has never done a twenty episode season, and your proselytising for Person of Interest makes this whole conversation laughable, Phonics.

[Baz]

5 episodes in to the man in the high castle and seriously bored. Is it worth continuing? (No spoilers)

[Alex]

I started watching The Expanse a couple of nights ago and I've only got three episodes left. Granted, it's only a ten episode season and they aren't aren't particularly long episodes. It's pretty great though. I haven't read any of the books it's apparently based on, but the world they're building up seems really cool and like it has a lot of legs.

I also finished The Path over the Christmas/New Year period and thought it was quite good too, interesting premise. It sets up really nicely for the second season too, which is only a couple of week away I believe. My only issue is that Aaron Paul is almost completely typecast in the role of Jesse Pinkman for me, to the point where seeing him act like a legitimate, responsible, grown up man with a family and shit is strange. That's my own problem though.

[Alex]

5 episodes in to the man in the high castle and seriously bored. Is it worth continuing? (No spoilers)

The first season is definitely slower and then it picks up a bit towards the end. The second season is better I would say, but it never completely picks up the pace. It's a very slow mover. Hard to say whether you should stick with it or not. I think the main draw to me is just that it looks nice and I find the whole "what if the Nazi's had won?" thing to be a really interesting set-up.

I can definitely say that if there is a season three (and I assume there will be) I will watch it, but I no longer care at all what goes on with any of the three main characters. Julianna, Joe and the guy with the glasses (such a boring bastard I've totally forgotten his name), they're arguably the three dullest characters in it.

[John]

On a different topic: anyone watched The Expanse?


I started watching The Expanse a couple of nights ago and I've only got three episodes left. Granted, it's only a ten episode season and they aren't aren't particularly long episodes. It's pretty great though. I haven't read any of the books it's apparently based on, but the world they're building up seems really cool and like it has a lot of legs.

I watched The Expanse a while back and rather enjoyed it, although it wasn't really good enough to warrant a recommendation. I'll be all over a second season whenever it appears though, because it left enough unanswered and did it well enough that I want to know where they're going with it.

There are massive narrative and plot holes but I haven't read the source material, which I didn't know existed until these posts, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt that there's some Polyfilla handy.

[Raoul Duke]

My final Netflix binge over Xmas was on Travelers - it's pretty good, although there are some fairly honking great paradoxes in it. It's to do with time travel, so you have to let that go if you want to get into it, as anything involving that always turns out to be total bobbins if you look at it in too much detail.

Nice premise and some interesting story lines developing though.

[Mazuuurk]

I'm currently going through all the Black Mirror episodes, which are all more or less brilliant to be honest.

[Giggles]

Just finished High Castle. Definitely worth sticking with.

[mo]

Have made it three eps into High Castle. Think Frank annoys me more than Juliana.

[Giggles]

Have made it three eps into High Castle. Think Frank annoys me more than Juliana.

Well I'd love to be able to tell you different, but that's not going to change.

[John]

A six episode second season of Letterkenny has been released all at once. :drool: That's a lovely surprise on my first time visiting BtN in a week.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Frank and Juliana are both massively irritating tossers, as is Joe, but the side characters (mainly the Nazis and Japanese) more than make up for it. The finale was absolutely great.

[Yevrah]

I've not seen any of it, but presumably that'll just be a finale for season 2 and it's back for a third?

[Giggles]

Frank and Juliana are both massively irritating tossers, as is Joe, but the side characters (mainly the Nazis and Japanese) more than make up for it. The finale was absolutely great.

It really was excellent. Definitely agree that a lot of the background characters really make it.

Kido is the best thing in it.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Kido is the fucking man. Rufus Sewell is brilliant as well.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've not seen any of it, but presumably that'll just be a finale for season 2 and it's back for a third?

I mean they can always do another season if there's money to spin out of it, I suppose, but the finale of season 2 felt pretty final to me.

[Yevrah]

Sweet. Might get on that then.

[GS]

I've not seen any of it, but presumably that'll just be a finale for season 2 and it's back for a third?

I doubt it'll be back, as the series two finale was such that it neatly wrapped everything up.


Frank and Juliana are both massively irritating tossers, as is Joe, but the side characters (mainly the Nazis and Japanese) more than make up for it. The finale was absolutely great.

The antique shop owner was great as well.

Obergruppenfuhrer Smith and Chief Inspector Kido were the two best characters in the programme.

[Giggles]

Kido is the fucking man. Rufus Sewell is brilliant as well.

Yeah. I suppose you could near call Kido and Smith main characters, Smith especially.

I found Tagomi quite endearing too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Yeah Tagomi's facial expressions are quality.

Kido spitting out 'Trade... Minister' :drool:

[Disco]

Kido is the fucking man. Rufus Sewell is brilliant as well.

I enjoyed Heydrich as a swivel eyed loon (which he was) as well, they did a really good job of making proper characters out of the 'bad' guys rather than just making them all ranting villains.

[Boydy]

Oh, The Man in the High Castle is done? Might give it a go now then. I thought it was going to something that went on for about five seasons.

[Alex]

No, it's not done. They just announced a couple of days ago that they've renewed it for a third season.

[Yevrah]

And there it is.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Well they should have stopped it at this point (don't open the below spoiler if you haven't watched it).

Where does anyone go from here? Joe is about to get shot (surely), Juliana has completed her story, Frank is dead (although we didn't see him die I suppose, but come on), Tagomi has done his thing, Thomas has self-euthanised... maybe it'll just be Kido and Childan on a road trip.

[Boydy]

Oh ffs.

[Offshore Toon]

New Always Sunny In Philadelphia was a bit shit. Making a mini musical out of a comedy show is always a bad idea. Can anybody think of a time its worked? The Simpsons had some great songs, but the whole episode wasn't a musical so it was fine.

[Offshore Toon]

New Always Sunny In Philadelphia was a bit shit. Making a mini musical out of a comedy show is always a bad idea. Can anybody think of a time its worked? The Simpsons had some great songs, but the whole episode wasn't a musical so it was fine.
I've just realised that The Nightman Cometh episode of Always Sunny would probably count, and that is incredible.

[Baz]

It was the worst thing to ever happen in Scrubs, despite it mostly being absolute dogshit and not funny.

[Boydy]

Fans of The Americans! Did you know Matthew Rhys (Philip) is actually Welsh? I suppose the name hints at it but I never really paid that much attention to that and just assumed he was American. Also him and Keri Russell (Elizabeth) are a couple IRL.

[John]

I did. His accent seems pretty immaculate though so if you didn't know going in I doubt you'd get it from that. He voiced the Welsh nationalist bloke in Archer with his natural voice.

[Boydy]

Ha, didn't know he voiced him.

[Offshore Toon]

It was the worst thing to ever happen in Scrubs, despite it mostly being absolute dogshit and not funny.
Yeah, I think Scrubs got by on likeable/attractive characters mostly.

[John]

The 'new series' section on BtN informs me that something called 'Murder Calls' has started. It's a series of dramatisations of real life cases where people have been killed while on the phone to 911. Why the fuck does the will to make that exist?

[Dark Soldier]

Quarry is a bit fucking good innit. Jaysus.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2980696/

[Giggles]

I need something else to watch now that High Castle is done and dusted. I'm going to do the last 6 episodes of the last series of Humans as I missed them but then I've found absolutely nothing. Might give the other series of Fargo a go, though I hated the one with Martin Freeman.

[Dark Soldier]

I need something else to watch now that High Castle is done and dusted. I'm going to do the last 6 episodes of the last series of Humans as I missed them but then I've found absolutely nothing. Might give the other series of Fargo a go, though I hated the one with Martin Freeman.

See my post above yours, the entire first season is out.

[Giggles]

See my post above yours, the entire first season is out.

If films and stuff are anything to go by, I'm safe in the knowledge that me and you would definitely not enjoy the same things.

[Boydy]

I finished series 2 of Happy Valley the other day. It was brilliant.

[Dark Soldier]

If films and stuff are anything to go by, I'm safe in the knowledge that me and you would definitely not enjoy the same things.

Did you enjoy True Detective season one, and stuff of that ilk?

[Giggles]

That's one of the best things I've seen, but I'm not into blood and guts and stuff.

[Dark Soldier]

This is in the same vein. Its just a drama/thriller, well acted, well written, no blood and guts and all that jazz. Guy comes back from Vietnam in the 70s after a scandal, society shuns him, shady guy offers him a job as a hitman and away we go.

[Giggles]

I stand corrected then. I'll give it a go, sounds decent.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Quarry is a bit fucking good innit. Jaysus.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2980696/
That does sound rather good


I need something else to watch now that High Castle is done and dusted. I'm going to do the last 6 episodes of the last series of Humans as I missed them but then I've found absolutely nothing. Might give the other series of Fargo a go, though I hated the one with Martin Freeman.
Hated?? I was away to say the second season is even better than the first but if you hated it then I doubt that would make a difference.

[Giggles]

That does sound rather good


Hated?? I was away to say the second season is even better than the first but if you hated it then I doubt that would make a difference.

Yeah tried a few times to finish it but couldn't.

[John]

Quarry is a bit fucking good innit. Jaysus.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2980696/

Have you finished the whole thing? If so;

The one shot Vietnam sequence. :drool:

[Byron]

Caught up with the latest episode of Sherlock, which was miles better than the absolutely ridiculous contrived garbage they called the two episodes before that.

Still, I know they are going to come up with some massively stupid conspiracy stuff in the last episode, so it'll tank after that.

[Giggles]

Yeah definitely the best one for a while. The search for the EVEN BIGGER FINALE scares me about the next one.

[Baz]

I really wish http://newstudio.tv/ wasn't in Russian.

[John]

Started watching Rick and Morty last night and wound up buzzing through well into the second season. It's fucking dark at times, isn't it?

[Adamski]

It really fucks me off when shows don't give a brief overview/set the scene at the very start. I get it's a plot device but you spend half the time wondering what's happened and less about what's actually happening.

(man in the high castle)

[Giggles]

That should fill in some without giving anything away. Just that bit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_High_Castle_(TV_series)#Alternate_h istory

[Raoul Duke]

It really fucks me off when shows don't give a brief overview/set the scene at the very start. I get it's a plot device but you spend half the time wondering what's happened and less about what's actually happening.

(man in the high castle)

I'm the opposite. As I tend to just plough through a show in a short space of time, I have to skip it every time as I've just watched the prior episode.

I started watching Mr. Robot and am just getting into season two. I'm about 13 episodes in and I'm still not sure I like it. Aside from the fact it'd be more descriptively titled if it was called Mr. Autism, the characters aren't very likeable and don't really have any redeeming qualities.

Also (spoiler for season 1):


The plot "twist" is telegraphed from way away, and is basically a total Fight Club rip off. The bad guys are so transparent they might as well wear t-shirts saying 'I AM A BAD PERSON'. The "hacking" side of things is equally nonsense, even more so if you know a bit about computing. The bit where Tyrell Badperson starts wanking on to Elliot Rainman about using Linux like he's fucking Neo or whatever is hilariously cringe-tastic.

The most ludicrous bit so far though is the blonde girl spending half the series crying about Evil Corp killing everyone's families and then immediately setting aside her morals and going to work for them. Absurd.

Still, pretty watchable and a decent overall vibe.

[Disco]

I wanted to know more of the history behind it but I don't think it made it hard to follow, the basic situation was pretty clear.

[Adamski]

Yeah sorry I didn't mean a review at the start of each episode, more like what disco means

[Boydy]

I'm the opposite. As I tend to just plough through a show in a short space of time, I have to skip it every time as I've just watched the prior episode.

I started watching Mr. Robot and am just getting into season two. I'm about 13 episodes in and I'm still not sure I like it. Aside from the fact it'd be more descriptively titled if it was called Mr. Autism, the characters aren't very likeable and don't really have any redeeming qualities.

Also (spoiler for season 1):


The plot "twist" is telegraphed from way away, and is basically a total Fight Club rip off. The bad guys are so transparent they might as well wear t-shirts saying 'I AM A BAD PERSON'. The "hacking" side of things is equally nonsense, even more so if you know a bit about computing. The bit where Tyrell Badperson starts wanking on to Elliot Rainman about using Linux like he's fucking Neo or whatever is hilariously cringe-tastic.

The most ludicrous bit so far though is the blonde girl spending half the series crying about Evil Corp killing everyone's families and then immediately setting aside her morals and going to work for them. Absurd.

Still, pretty watchable and a decent overall vibe.


I gave up on Mr Robot a few episodes into season 2.

[Giggles]

I'm awful fearful this final Sherlock is going to be toss.

[Ian]

The first episode of this series was bang average, at best, but I really enjoyed the second episode. Helps that I love Toby Jones playing a cunt.

[Adamski]

That should fill in some without giving anything away. Just that bit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_High_Castle_(TV_series)#Alternate_h istory

That does help cheers.

Didn't Joe Blake wave Juliana off on a ship at the end of episode 1? How did she then turn up in Canon City at the same time as him?

[Giggles]

The first episode of this series was bang average but I really enjoyed the second episode. Helps that I love Toby Jones playing a cunt.

Yea I really enjoyed last weeks and Jones was brilliant. There's a big chance that they'll have got carried away for the finale though.

[Giggles]

That does help cheers.

Didn't Joe Blake wave Juliana off on a ship at the end of episode 1? How did she then turn up in Canon City at the same time as him?

That was way later in series 1. I can't remember if there was a flash forward though.

Exodus hasn't mixed up episodes on you or anything has it? I found a lot of them under the wrong episode number.

[Adamski]

Fuck :D

[Giggles]

Can understand it being hard to know what's going on then :D

Episode 1 starts with Joe in a cinema. I must have seen that scene start at least ten times when it should have been different episodes.

[Ian]

Yea I really enjoyed last weeks and Jones was brilliant. There's a big chance that they'll have got carried away for the finale though.

It'll also be made to end on another cliffhanger, which I could live without.

The big issue with the show as it's gone along is that it's been more about his relationship with John + others and less about him solving shit. I struggle to see that changing with this episode but there was more of it in the last one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Exodus hasn't mixed up episodes on you or anything has it? I found a lot of them under the wrong episode number.

Wouldn't happen on torrents.

[Giggles]

Wouldn't happen on torrents.

When I can hit back and just pick another one it still outweighs faffing about with a laptop.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

The first episode of this series was bang average, at best, but I really enjoyed the second episode. Helps that I love Toby Jones playing a cunt.

He is rather good. Second episode was more of what I was expecting.

[Giggles]

It was all going well til the end. What the fuck was that?

[Disco]

That was rubbish.

[randomlegend]

Also disappointed in Sherlock to be honest.

Obviously it's always been teetering dangerously close to the edge of absurdity, but that episode drove itself off that particular cliff at a hundred miles an hour.

The whole "Sherlock is clever beyond all comprehension, but actually his brother is EVEN smartererer really" thing was vaguely interesting in it's way, but just doubling down on it with the introduction of the sister who was basically a god was stupid.

It was still quite entertaining I guess, but the older episodes where they hadn't gone completely off the deep end into fantasy land were better.

[Disco]

The series have gotten increasingly silly, there's a reason why the best ones were the ones more closely based on the source material.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Anyone tried Taboo? I watched the first episode last night and it seemed promising, without my having that much idea what precisely was going on.

Sherlock went a couple of years ago when they started writing it for the American/international audience.

[Alex]

Yes, I have Jimmy. I watched the second episode last night and, like yourself, still have very little idea about what's actually going on. But it's very intriguing and the cast is great, so I'm definitely sticking with it. I'm especially loving Jonathan Pryce as the old boy in charge of the East India Company.

[Dark Soldier]

Have you finished the whole thing? If so;

The one shot Vietnam sequence. :drool:

Just seen this notification!

Nah not finished it all yet, drip feeding it so its spread out over a few weeks. Will report back when the season is done.

[Jeet]

What a clusterfuck Sherlock was last night.

[John]

The first episode of Taboo looked great and the performances are all very good, but it's a bit bizness.

[Adamski]

Can understand it being hard to know what's going on then :D

Episode 1 starts with Joe in a cinema. I must have seen that scene start at least ten times when it should have been different episodes.

Just watched episode 1. Makes sense now :D

[randomlegend]

Anyone tried Taboo? I watched the first episode last night and it seemed promising, without my having that much idea what precisely was going on.

Sherlock went a couple of years ago when they started writing it for the American/international audience.

Episode 2 of this series was good. The last one basically went 'full retard' though, so to speak.

[Baz]

https://i.imgur.com/Lb2HDku.png

:drool:

[Dark Soldier]

What we've all been waiting for:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiZpi99wC0w

[SvN]

Ron Weasley will never be believable as a gangster. I hate to be pessimistic, but that looks fucking abysmal. The main plot looks way too similar to the film. Boxing, fixed fights, diamonds, blah blah blah.

[Disco]

Like the terrible Lock Stock series they tried to do yeeeeaaaaaarrsss ago.

[igor_balis]

Dunno if anyone's mentioned it, but the game show Taskmaster on Dave is actually really good fun. Greg Davies is an excellent host, and the panel regulars are largely good.

[Giggles]

Never heard of it. But Greg Davies, I'm in.

[Baz]

Dunno if anyone's mentioned it, but the game show Taskmaster on Dave is actually really good fun. Greg Davies is an excellent host, and the panel regulars are largely good.It had its own thread, kinda, called Funniest Thing On Telly.

First season was awesome, I stopped about halfway through the second but I'll probably pick it back up again before starting The Wonder Years.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ed Westwick though :drool:

[John]

I wonder how long this boring phase of action films being turned into atrocious TV series will last. I doubt anyone will be able to top the hateful Wayans twat being cast in the Murtaugh role in Lethal Weapon, but it has to stop.

[Raoul Duke]

It's the new 'reboot'. Hollywood is fucked and everything is going to be on Netflix in the future, so it's a sensible idea in some ways.

[phonics]

I have to say Bad Teacher getting a TV show was probably the peak of that.

[Foe]

Series 5 of LOST really was a catastrophic crock of shit. The only things that made it watchable being Kate and Juliette :drool:

Series 6 is also much worse than I remembered. What a waste of fucking time this decision to re-watch it has been.

[Raoul Duke]

I was all set for a rewatch and then they took it off Netflix :moop:

[John]

I'd have thought Lost was one of the least rewatchable things ever made.

Finished the second season of Rick and Morty just now. It's basically what Futurama should have been. Very good.

[Ian]

It was all going well til the end. What the fuck was that?

There was a lot I liked about the episode, despite it being a bit of a convoluted shambles after the twenty minutes or so, but it had become absolute rot by the end.

From Euros anticlimactically breaking at the end of her own game to the cloying voiceover/montage bit from Mary.

EDIT: Ooh, it'd totally passed me by that Endeavour started up again a couple of weeks ago. Will be getting on that.

[Bernanke]

I'm halfway through a re-watch of season 5 of 24. The best season. :drool:

[Giggles]

There was a lot I liked about the episode, despite it being a bit of a convoluted shambles after the twenty minutes or so, but it had become absolute rot by the end.

From Euros anticlimactically breaking at the end of her own game to the cloying voiceover/montage bit from Mary.

EDIT: Ooh, it'd totally passed me by that Endeavour started up again a couple of weeks ago. Will be getting on that.

Mary was the single worst thing ever happened the show anyway, so this episode should be no different.

[John]

Amazon haven't half slipped their new thing, Sneaky Pete, out under the radar. It has Bryan Cranston and Giovanni Ribisi in it and it's co-created by Cranston and some combination of the DNA of The Americans, Justified, and House. How does a second tier streaming service not hype that to fuck?

[phonics]

They spent their marketing budget on Clarkson.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I wouldn't want to extract Lost from the last decade where it belongs. Ben Linus was a legend though.

[Alex]

Amazon haven't half slipped their new thing, Sneaky Pete, out under the radar. It has Bryan Cranston and Giovanni Ribisi in it and it's co-created by Cranston and some combination of the DNA of The Americans, Justified, and House. How does a second tier streaming service not hype that to fuck?

Yeah, they do this all the time. I noticed a week or two ago they have some drama with Martin Freeman in it as the lead. It's been out since September and I had no idea. I'm not the guys biggest fan, but that's still a pretty big name lead for a TV show in my opinion. I assume they paid him a lot of money to be in it. They just never seem to publicise these things though.

I always get this feeling though, that regardless of the money they throw at making the actual shows (which is undoubtedly a lot), there's always a decidedly budget feeling to Amazon Originals. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something a bit off about the whole setup. Netflix is just a much slicker operation.

[Boydy]

I see Character Actress Margo Martindale is in Sneaky Pete too.

[John]

And Peter Gerety, of Judge Phelan in The Wire fame.

[Ian]

Mary was the single worst thing ever happened the show anyway, so this episode should be no different.

She's certainly not a character I've ever particularly enjoyed in the show. I hope if/when it comes back for more she's not constantly cropping up. Prior to this episode, where his appearances made some sense, I was getting a bit bored of the looming figure of Moriarty cropping up so much as well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've seen some adverts for that Sneaky Pete, not as much as there should have been though.

Amazon seems to be largely focused on getting Twitter to talk about their shows, recommendations and general browsing.

[John]

The Good Place finished terrifically well. The whole thing was tightly constructed, very clever, and generally great.

[randomlegend]

I've binge watched almost all of Taskmaster over the last couple of days after the recommendations here.

It's so good :D

[Baz]

I've binge watched almost all of Taskmaster over the last couple of days after the recommendations here.

It's so good :DHow would you rank the series'?

[randomlegend]

How would you rank the series'?

Hmmm, probably series 1 at the top and then 2 and 3 fairly equal. It's all good though.

[Limoutsonik]

The Good Place finished terrifically well. The whole thing was tightly constructed, very clever, and generally great.

The series was a breath of fresh air regarding comedies,it was wonderfully crafted and the twist was out of nowhere and greatly acted by the actors in question.Hoping it gets picked up for a 2nd season.

[wullie]

Two episodes into Quarry, enjoying it so far. It's a bit jarring to see Marlo Stanfield a smiling family man for his brief time in the show, and the Scottish fella fresh from Mum now playing a southern crime boss.

[John]

Walton Goggins is fronting a 'conspiracy thriller' based around the hunt for a Bin Laden figure being undertaken by a fictionalised version of Seal Team Six. Done right that could be stonking.

[Ian]

I've finally finished Luke Cage. Daredevil and Jessica Jones I zoomed through, Cage I found harder going. It's decent but nothing about it hooked me the way the other ones have.

Soundtrack is ace though.

[Baz]

Didn't realise Workaholics is back. :youpi:

Threee episodes into season seven to catch up on.

[Yevrah]

Watching QI, my first episode hosted by Toksvig and she's surprisingly good at it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, I've enjoyed the season a lot. I've been pleasantly surprised.

[Raoul Duke]

Started The Walking Dead this weekend...bit good, innit? Just coming to the end of Season 2.

I think GoT has immunised me to caring about characters too deeply nowadays as they all seem to fucking die. Also, as ever with these types of shows: the kids are the worst part.

[Magic]

Latest ACI is the Germanwings/Lubitz crash. Weird actually vividly remembering these ones. :drool:

[Yevrah]

I've watched a few things lately, enjoying all of them:

The Missing Series 2 - Cracking stuff. Did it in a day so it naturally dragged a bit in the middle, but quality production all round and might even be better than the first one.

The Night Manager - Lovely to look at, but lacked a bit of substance and was quite fantastical at times. Still, Hugh Laurie saying "Corky" will stay with me forever.

American Crime Story - Properly good. Bit of a slow burner at times, but the key players were fantastically realised and had me gripped even though I remembered much of the source material vividly.

[Mazuuurk]

Started watching "Bron" (= The Bridge). The original Swedish/Danish version. This is about 4 years after the rest of Sweden watched it.

Pretty good so far.

[phonics]

I watched The Night Manager in one sitting on a plane which is probably what it's best for. As you say Yev, it's rather empty once you get past the basic plotline. Looks lovely though.

[Boydy]

I've watched a few things lately, enjoying all of them:

The Missing Series 2 - Cracking stuff. Did it in a day so it naturally dragged a bit in the middle, but quality production all round and might even be better than the first one.

The Night Manager - Lovely to look at, but lacked a bit of substance and was quite fantastical at times. Still, Hugh Laurie saying "Corky" will stay with me forever.

American Crime Story - Properly good. Bit of a slow burner at times, but the key players were fantastically realised and had me gripped even though I remembered much of the source material vividly.

Was 'Corky' not Tom Hollander's character?

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Yes.

Agreed on The Missing too, as good as the first season was.

[John]

Season two of The Good Place ordered. :drool:

[Yevrah]

Was 'Corky' not Tom Hollander's character?

It was. The the way Hugh Laurie said his name was awesome.

[Ian]

Watching QI, my first episode hosted by Toksvig and she's surprisingly good at it.

Yeah, I really haven't felt myself missing Fry. Which isn't to say I didn't think he was great on it, just that they've replaced him very well.

But then I was quite confident about that because I always liked her as a guest.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The best thing has been the exclusion of Sue Perkins thus far.

[igor_balis]

The Alan Davies pretending to be stupid shtick has been stale for about 10 years, he made the show unwatchable for me ages before the National Treasure flounced off. Davies at least had the integrity to offer to resign if they wanted to make a fresh start, and the BBC said no. Fuck sake.

[igor_balis]

I mean everything is subjective, but if you've regularly watched QI since it started, and still find Alan Davies shouting bollocks like a naughty school boy funny I reckon you must have learning difficulties.

[John]

It always seemed to me more like everyone else pretending he was stupid while he was actually obviously very bright.

[igor_balis]

It always seemed to me more like everyone else pretending he was stupid while he was actually obviously very bright.

It's both. He's certainly not been unwilling to play up to it at least.

[Boydy]

It was. The the way Hugh Laurie said his name was awesome.

Did that post of yours always read 'Hugh Laurie saying'? I could have sworn it said 'Hugh Laurie's Corky' earlier.

[Baz]

QI is probably one of my least favourite TV shows of all time.

[Manc]

Dennis Quaid has ruined Fortitude.

[Raoul Duke]

Finished season two of The Walking Dead yesterday. Dat end scene :drool:

[John]

Was it you that whizzed through The Expanse recently? Second series starts tomorrow night.

[Alex]

Finished season two of The Walking Dead yesterday. Dat end scene :drool:

"This isn't a democracy anymore!"

I think I'm getting that right? Or not. It's all blurred into one.

[Alex]

I blitzed through The Expanse recently John, I don't know if Raoul did too. I didn't realise it was back so soon. I enjoyed it quite a bit, so that's good news. The Path is back as well, I've noticed.

[Raoul Duke]

Was it you that whizzed through The Expanse recently? Second series starts tomorrow night.


I blitzed through The Expanse recently John, I don't know if Raoul did too. I didn't realise it was back so soon. I enjoyed it quite a bit, so that's good news. The Path is back as well, I've noticed.

Yeah I went through it pretty rapidly. It's a cracking show - looking forward to the next season. Love the aesthetic, in particular the UI design of things like the phones felt real, and more generally how it was pretty grounded in actual science.


"This isn't a democracy anymore!"

I think I'm getting that right? Or not. It's all blurred into one.

That's the right episode, but I'm specifically talking about:

The ninja who turns up with a sword and two random zombies on chains. Such a fucking bonkers ending :D

[John]

I blitzed through The Expanse recently John, I don't know if Raoul did too. I didn't realise it was back so soon. I enjoyed it quite a bit, so that's good news. The Path is back as well, I've noticed.


Yeah I went through it pretty rapidly. It's a cracking show - looking forward to the next season. Love the aesthetic, in particular the UI design of things like the phones felt real, and more generally how it was pretty grounded in actual science.

It's based on a network of novels and novellas so if the viewers stay it'll end up running for years. I think the authors have knocked out about ten books in a few years.

My favourite touch was the 'belters' having lived in zero gravity for so long that they can't live on earth any more. There are plenty of clever little details like that which make the world building spot on, but the plot was hit or miss for me for a lot of it.

[Raoul Duke]

It's based on a network of novels and novellas so if the viewers stay it'll end up running for years. I think the authors have knocked out about ten books in a few years.

My favourite touch was the 'belters' having lived in zero gravity for so long that they can't live on earth any more. There are plenty of clever little details like that which make the world building spot on, but the plot was hit or miss for me for a lot of it.

Yeah, agreed. There was an AMA on Reddit with them that was pretty good.

[Alex]

That's the right episode, but I'm specifically talking about:

The ninja who turns up with a sword and two random zombies on chains. Such a fucking bonkers ending :D

Ah, yes. That was a pretty mental way to end it, a big "what the fuck" moment at the time. :D

[Alex]

I agree about the little touches in The Expanse too. It makes it all seem a bit more real, as a posed to people just tearing around in spaceships without a care in the world. I really like the scene in one of the earlier episodes where they perform the "flip and burn" manoeuvre to turn the ship around quickly and it's a huge deal, everyone has to strap in and inject some sort of fluid that helps them hold up to the extreme G-force.

[phonics]

It's not a particularly novel thought but I just started watching The Thick Of It for the first time in years and it's still amazing.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

It's so re-watchable.

[Baz]

I watched episode one of The Expanse but I'm not really sold. Will give two a go though.

[Boydy]

I started The Night Of. Two episodes in. It was the first episode that everyone raved about, wasn't it? I can see why.

[John]

The Noah Hawley X-Men thing 'Legion' is getting incredible reviews. The word 'masterpiece' is being used liberally.

[SvN]

I started The Night Of. Two episodes in. It was the first episode that everyone raved about, wasn't it? I can see why.

Yeah, I'd say the first episode is one if the best introductions to a show I've ever seen. It never comes close to reaching those heights again, unfortunately.

[John Arne]

I decided the re-watch The Office (US).... the difference in quality from season 7 to season 8 really is huge. How on earth anyone thought that Catherine Tate would be a decent character should be shot. Also the writing took a massive, massive dip, too - so shit. '

[John]

The Office went downhill over the course of either season four or five, I forget which, and was nigh unwatchable by the point you're talking about.

Add Training Day to the list of films with crap spinoff series attached to them. Bill Paxton plays the Denzel role in this one, which is just about the most lol bit of casting I can think of.

[SvN]

Fuck me, Training Day? They really will stop at nothing.

[John]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMYsEQLv1hE

See how far into that you can get without cringing yourself to death. I managed thirty seven seconds, but the cringe started forming at about twenty.

[Alex]

Literally thirty seconds into the new 24 reboot (Jack Bauer out, Dr. Dre in) and an ex-miliary man has already been executed by (presumably) muslim terrorists, while the blood splattered corpse of his already dead wife lies adjacent. We even got a close up of his Army Rangers tattoo and a camera pan across his conveniently laid out medals of valour, just to drive home the point of what a set of evil bastards they really are. It never occurred to me until just now, but I bet The Donald is a HUGE 24 fan. :D

[Bernanke]

Without it being the Bauer Power Hour there really isn't much point to it is there?

[Alex]

Without it being the Bauer Power Hour there really isn't much point to it is there?

I very much doubt it. I think I'm just watching for nostalgias sake, if I'm honest.

[Alex]

Well, they certainly don't seem too interested in straying from the old formula. In just over forty minutes of television they've already managed to introduce the following 24 cliches:


New, charasmatic presidential candidate
Plucky, confrontational, non-conformist computer nerd working at CTU
Possible mole inside CTU
Straight laced, massively unhelpful, possibly not to be trusted dickhead in charge of CTU
CTU being a fucking shambles in general
The vague feeling your watching an extended car commercial for this season's manufacturer of choice
Some sort of suburban terrorist sleeper cell
Bauer mark II having a man bag every bit as spacious as his predecessor
A regular old USB stick on the loose with loads of very important data about exactly what the terrorists plan to do on it
Shady member of the main guys family popping up in a seemingly unrelated but probably somehow relevant sub-plot


No torture or "dammit!" yet though, but it's early days.

Fuck it, I'm going to watch the second episode. :D

[Disco]

Watch out for the villain being captured/foiled only for (yet) another layer of bad guys to be revealed and the process starts again until you get to Dennis Hopper.

[John]

I didn't watch 24 after the first season, but it feels like the sort of show where the bad guy being captured only for that to be part of his plan would have a fairly strong presence.

[Disco]

They must have done that at least once, most of them either got fed to a Bauer set piece or just contracted fatal irrelevancy and you never heard from them again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5KJVVh1vmA

What? Why?

[Bernanke]

With this and the 24-reboot I'm getting serious 2005-vibes right now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9OKL5no-S0

This though.

Iron Fist :drool: