Do we live in a golden age of television?

[John Arne]

I find it bizarre that people could feel so strongly against Jimmy Fallon as John Arne seems to in that post above. "Insincere" is a particularly strange one as everything I've seen from him suggests he's as genuine as somebody in that sort of position could be. He always seems to just really enjoy what he's doing, so even if it's not all that funny I can't help but be taken in by his enthusiasm. I think you have to be remarkably cynical to do otherwise really.

Are we watching the same guy? He is the lost insincere thing on TV. His fake laughing and mock surprise, it's truly cringeworthy.

[Boydy]

I find it bizarre that people could feel so strongly against Jimmy Fallon as John Arne seems to in that post above. "Insincere" is a particularly strange one as everything I've seen from him suggests he's as genuine as somebody in that sort of position could be. He always seems to just really enjoy what he's doing, so even if it's not all that funny I can't help but be taken in by his enthusiasm. I think you have to be remarkably cynical to do otherwise really.

I find it weird as well. Jimmy Fallon seems incredibly likeable to me.

[Toby]

Are we watching the same guy? He is the lost insincere thing on TV. His fake laughing and mock surprise, it's truly cringeworthy.

Seeing him in other contexts, such as Seinfeld's Comedians in Cars... interviews, he seems to just genuinely enjoy himself. I can definitely see why you'd say he isn't funny but his enthusiasm doesn't seem at all insincere.

[simon]

Jimmy Fallon is great.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p1Iv9z8bOY

How can you not enjoy this?

[John]

The air whizzed out of the Luther hype balloon fairly quickly, didn't it? The second episode finishes in ten minutes and not a single post about it.

[Kikó]

I'm going to watch it later on. Not had time.

[CJay]

I enjoyed it - more of the same basically, but it did feel like they were a bit short on time. I assume there's more coming based on the ending, so I guess the only reason for it to be two-part is Elba didn't have time?

[Baz]

After really enjoying The Last Kingdom, I've decided to give Vikings a[nother] go. Previously watched the first episode and decided it wasn't for me, but hopefully my newfound respect for THE DANES will see me through.

[Boydy]

Almost finished season 3 of The Bridge. That's all that's out, isn't it? It's great. Saga was a little annoying at first but I bloody love her now.

Although in season 3
I really miss Martin and also Hans when that happens :(

[Ian]

The air whizzed out of the Luther hype balloon fairly quickly, didn't it? The second episode finishes in ten minutes and not a single post about it.

Yeah, I've only just watched it. No chance earlier in the week. Very much enjoyed it, despite it feeling like a three- or four-episode story crammed into two. It didn't do anything that'd change the mind of people who don't like it but they don't need to try and do that, so while "more of the same" sounds like a criticism it's exactly what I'm after. Random, magical leaps of logic from Luther, catching a laughably perverse wrong-un he's only spending half his time investigating, having a whole load of people on his case for one reason or another.

Strangely open-ended finish given how final the last one seemed.

Also enjoyed Luther going all WWF Hardcore title on them goons with a bin. :D And the "Rubbish" pun too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've been re-watching Parks again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LinpRhB4aWU

Gets me every single time.

I had forgotten just how damn good the whole thing (bar season 1) really is.

[Boydy]

Anyone watch Broad City?

It's pretty good.

[Raoul Duke]

Jessica Jones is pretty ace.

Also - the badass blind guy from Marco Polo has his own 30-minute origin story, which looks cool.

[Ian]

I don't get why Parks and Rec season 1 gets as much shit as it does on here but it's a belter of a show. I rewatched Ron's trip to Lagavulin recently, just because.

[igor_balis]

Started watching Suits a couple of weeks ago, well into season 2 now. I think it is trashy TV, but fucking great trashy TV. Anyone else watched it?

[John Arne]

I watched it when it first started. I think I lasted till about mid season 3 before I just started getting far too repetitive, regardless of the eye candy.

EDIT: Also, the main guy in it rents an apartment above my mate in Toronto during filming and my mate says he has a different bird every night and is constantly shagging sexy bishes. Fair play.

[Giggles]

There was fuck all on yesterday so I watched the 10 series 3 episodes of Brooklyn Nine Nine again. It's so class.

[mugbull]

Is Vikings any good? Like writing-wise? It seems like a cool show, but it also seems like a hastily-written one. I usually don't last very long if the show has a shit script so I would love to know thanks :)

[John]

I watched it when it first started. I think I lasted till about mid season 3 before I just started getting far too repetitive, regardless of the eye candy.

EDIT: Also, the main guy in it rents an apartment above my mate in Toronto during filming and my mate says he has a different bird every night and is constantly shagging sexy bishes. Fair play.

Last time you mentioned this your mate was renting the apartment to the bloke from Suits.

[Alex]

Jessica Jones is pretty ace.

Also - the badass blind guy from Marco Polo has his own 30-minute origin story, which looks cool.

I saw that, I'll definitely be giving it a watch.

Marco Polo seemed to get reviewed pretty poorly but I really liked it. I suppose the thing was that it didn't really need Marco Polo to be there at all. It could have just been a TV show about the Mongol Empire marauding around and doing cool shit.

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah - he's the least interesting character in it. But you've got to have Some White Guy as the main protagonist.

I thought it was a cracking show.

[John Arne]

Last time you mentioned this your mate was renting the apartment to the bloke from Suits.

Yeah, I thought he used to rent it to him, apparently, he just rents near him. Nice memory, though.

[Alex]

Yeah - he's the least interesting character in it. But you've got to have Some White Guy as the main protagonist.

I thought it was a cracking show.

Yep, it was really good. He definitely is more the hook than anything, you're right. Just a name to prop the show up on. Could just bin him off at this point and promote Benedict Wong to top billing though. Kublai Khan. :cool:

I look forward to season two. They need a new bad guy who can live up to Minister guy though. He was excellent.

I've also been watching Rome recently, the BBC/HBO thing from a while ago. Not sure why I've never bothered with it before, I'm about half way through the second (and final) season and have loved all of it. Brilliant cast, dialogue, set design and, well, everything really. And the stories (obviously) write themselves. I just hope it's not another "blatantly cancelled too soon" ending a la Deadwood.

[Manc]

Fortitude has got off to a good start. A mismatch cast, but I love a good who dunnit.

[Raoul Duke]

2015 Wipe tomorrow at 21:00 :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Last year was the first time I actually watched 'Wipe' and I was thoroughly disappointed.

[Reg]

Bump for Wipe.

It's started decently.

[Pepe]

Up to episode four of Making a Murderer and it has been excellent so far.

[Manc]

Wipes got me in tears. :D

[simon]

Up to episode four of Making a Murderer and it has been excellent so far.

I binged 8 episodes on this the other night. It's fucking brilliant.

[SvN]

I've just downloaded it and it's next on my list.

[Giggles]

Was reading through http://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/7-of-the-very-best-tv-shows-from-2015/525283 this morning and decided to watch Master of None and Making a Murderer as I am in bad need of some new TV. Is the latter fiction or documentary?

[John]

Are you sure you were reading that link?


Making a Murderer

What's it about?: Filmed over a 10-year period, Netflix's latest smash-hit documentary is a real-life account of the travails of Steven Avery, a man that served 18 years for a crime he didn't commit.

[The Merse]

Very much factual. I've been meaning to get into Serial for ages after reading up on it, so now I'll just go with the Netflix series instead.

[John]

2015 Wipe was absolutely crap, with about three good lines in the whole thing. The 'Osborne scrapbook' was just an extension of that tedious 'phwoar look at that' shit he's been doing for years, and it's never been funny in the slightest.

He's so one note now it's quite sad.

[Reg]

I gave up on it after about forty minutes but I like that female comedian, rest was a bit nothingy.

[John]

The characters are the worst part, though one of the three good lines came from Barry Shitpeas, and 'Moments of Wonder' was actively irritating.

[Giggles]

Are you sure you were reading that link?

Skimmed, but those two still stood out. I'd be put off a bit if it's true life but I might still give it a go.

[Manc]

Seven episodes into Fortitude and it's going all other worldly. I'm going to be fucking livid by the outcome.

[phonics]

Sherlock tonight :drool:

Hopefully they learnt lessons from last years poorer episodes.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The last lot might as well have been a British Tourist Board advert for viewers in the States. This one should be better due to the setting.

[Yevrah]

I wonder how famous Cumberbatch will have to get before he says "er..., sorry".

Is tonight's a one off or part of a mini-series?

[Giggles]

Not even watching due to it being olden time. The whole idea behind this version of it is that it's modern.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Why would that make you not even watch it?

[Giggles]

Why would that make you not even watch it?

Because it's pointless when they've just taken out the main point of the series, there's very little else left for me after that. Might as well stick on one of the old versions or the films.

And Die Hard 5 is also on.

[Yevrah]

Die Hard 5 will be worse, I can all but guarantee you that.

[Giggles]

Die Hard 5 will be worse, I can all but guarantee you that.

I've seen it before and I quite liked it.

[John]

The second reason there undermines the first.

[Giggles]

I could have set a timer on you wading in. Why would I commit nearly two hours to watching something I don't want to watch?

[SvN]

Four episodes into Making of a Murderer - holy fucking shit.

[John]

You shouldn't. And that's reason enough not to watch it.

That said, the reasoning you've actually given there is undermined by the fact that you're going to watch Die Hard 5 instead, because point in the series everything unique about the original Die Hard had been stripped away.

[Giggles]

You shouldn't. And that's reason enough not to watch it.

That said, the reasoning you've actually given there is undermined by the fact that you're going to watch Die Hard 5 instead, because point in the series everything unique about the original Die Hard had been stripped away.

But that's not half as big a diappointment as them stripping away what was great about Sherlock. It has been one of my favourite things on TV in years, Die Hard 5 is just another action movie that I enjoyed.

[Vim]

Saw the And Then There Were None mini-series, it was quite good. I read the book in Italian as a kid, so I knew who the killer was but knowing the ending didn't spoil the viewing at all. If anything I could concentrate more on the details that I forgot from when I read it.

[Pepe]

Four episodes into Making of a Murderer - holy fucking shit.

Good isn't it? Everyone should be balls deep on that one.

[Cord]

Fargo Season 2 then. I'd happily put that up with the great TV seasons. Nailed it in almost every respect.

I've not seen the first, is it similar quality? I think the fact that it had the hobbit from the Office in it in a Fargo setting put me off at the time.

[Giggles]

That's one I've been meaning to watch but I really want to see the first series first.

[John]

Fargo Season 2 then. I'd happily put that up with the great TV seasons. Nailed it in almost every respect.

I've not seen the first, is it similar quality? I think the fact that it had the hobbit from the Office in it in a Fargo setting put me off at the time.

The second just about tops the first, but the first is exceptional itself and has one of the great TV characters and performances.


That's one I've been meaning to watch but I really want to see the first series first.

They're telling completely separate stories, so you don't need to have seen one before the other. They're linked through a creative team and a couple of characters, but they're set thirty years apart so the characters links don't affect the narrative much, if at all.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wonder how famous Cumberbatch will have to get before he says "er..., sorry".

Is tonight's a one off or part of a mini-series?

One off but a new series will be coming next year.

[Giggles]

Decided to give it 10 minutes and it's very good the way they're tying it in actually.

[Giggles]

Really wasn't up to much in the end. Still comfortably the best thing I've seen on the BBC in a long time though,

[Vim]

I really enjoyed it. Kind of had a feeling that it was going to be tied to the storyline, but it was done in a great way. Still doesn't answer everything, which with a year of waiting between episodes is kind of annoying.

About the trailer after the credits:

Is that trailer with Luther after the credits real? It sounds like one of those fan-made crossovers. :D I've never actually seen Luther but I guess I should get on it.

[SvN]

Good isn't it? Everyone should be balls deep on that one.

It's fantastic. Just watched episode 8, 2 left. This will be over 10 hours of a series in a single day :D

[Toby]

I was also put off by Sherlock going back to the 1900s, although only because I knew it would mean the meta-joke filled dream sequence wankery it did. It was entertaining enough besides that, but obviously just buying some time until they think up some actual plotlines again.

[Boydy]

Just started Making a Murderer. Is this meant to be about 'poor Steven'? Because he sounds like a cunt from the first fifteen minutes of the first episode.

[Pepe]

Ffs Boyd, just watch the bloody thing.

[mugbull]

He is a cunt. Instead, i'm going to make this my once weekly reminder to Boy dyke to get watching Rick and Morty. Asap chap

[Dark Soldier]

I finished episode 7 of Making a Murderer tonight:

He's going to jail still, I'm convinced. Whole thing is fucking mental but yeah, he done.

[Manc]

Fortitude was decent. Plenty of layers. 7/10

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

I didn't realise this Sherlock was a one off, didn't care for it much.

[John]

Made a start on Making a Murderer. I'm about half an hour in and this already looks like an absolutely bonkers case. If the full ten hours keep introducing shameful shit at the same pace as the first half hour then fuck me.

[CJay]

Cord - season 1 of Fargo is excellent, I can confirm. Found it difficult to come to terms with Matin Freeman putting on that accent, however. Billy Bob Thornton is magnificent in it.

[Giggles]

Where is Fargo to be found? I remember Channel 4 having the second series so I assume it's not on Netflix then is it?

[CJay]

Hmm, I think it's on Netflix. We have season 1 on blu ray so not sure.

[John]

Season one is definitely on US Netflix. Not sure about UK.

[Giggles]

The Mrs actually signed up for it today so I must have a flick through and see at some stage, though I had a brief look through it and I presume it would have been front and center. Didn't even realise they still make that Spacey thing.

[Giggles]

Season one is definitely on US Netflix. Not sure about UK.

Ah right, I might have to look on the tablet then. She signed up on the Nexus Player but I don't think there's a VPN thing for that.
That's if the account is set up for multiple devices.

[John]

Yep, it's on UK Netflix too.

[Giggles]

Yep, it's on UK Netflix too.

http://movies.netflixable.com/364060

This says it's here too. Must have just missed it. Was only a brief look.

[Yevrah]

Just started Making a Murderer. Is this meant to be about 'poor Steven'? Because he sounds like a cunt from the first fifteen minutes of the first episode.

That's where I am now and was thinking the same. :D

[Giggles]

Just had a look through Netflix there and should be worthwhile for now as I've added Fargo, Making a Murderer, and Narcos to watch. Is Peaky Blinders worth a look too, even ahead of any of the others?

[John]

That's where I am now and was thinking the same. :D

He's definitely a wanker, but fucking hell. Just... fucking hell.

It's a good thing they've got a young Paul Chuckle playing Bergner's mugshot on the flowchart thing or it might threaten to get a bit heavy.

[John]

The bloke's a proper shortarse isn't he. He's like a greying Gimli.

[igor_balis]

Was season two of True Detective shite in the end?

[Yevrah]

Episode 1 done of Making a Murderer.

I've no idea how they string this out for 10 episodes, but that opener. Bloody hell. Quality documentary making.

[Giggles]

Was season two of True Detective shite in the end?

Only watched 5, but I'm saying yes.

[Yevrah]

And now it's going all Shawshank. Fuck me.

[John]

Halfway through the second episode and I want that Kusche cunt dead. What a smug twat.

[Pepe]

Episode 1 done of Making a Murderer.

I've no idea how they string this out for 10 episodes, but that opener. Bloody hell. Quality documentary making.

I thought the exact same thing after the first episode. It only gets better.

[Yevrah]

I don't want to Google it for fear of spoilers (:cab:), but this isn't real, is it?

[Pepe]

Of course it is. Lol America and everything.

[Pepe]

A well handled case where people act reasonably would be more suspicious if anything.

[Yevrah]

I'm only 2 hours in and with 8 hours to go this is shaping up to be the biggest lol America ever.

My suspicions have been raised by the seemingly perfect amount and type of archive footage and his haircuts.

But, if you say it's real I'll go with that. Do I get 'Whoosh' immunity now though?

[John]

It is real, Yev. I'm at about the same point as you but I know enough of what surrounds it to know it's real.

I've been watching it the same way though, catching myself thinking of the people as 'characters' at times and trying to get ahead of it.

[Yevrah]

The archive footage is so comprehensive and so well put together (with no narration and minimal text) that I'm finding it impossible not to think of them as 'characters'.

[John]

Almost all of the 'archive footage' is from the documentary crew. They started the whole thing in 2003 as a documentary about the wrongful conviction.

[Yevrah]

2 episodes down and this is one of the most gripping things I've seen for a long time, real or otherwise. ;)

I'm off to get some snacks so I can get dug in.

[Lee]

I got about 20 minutes into this tonight and gave up. I'll try it when I'm not tired.

[Manc]

Was season two of True Detective shite in the end?

In large parts yes. Not a patch on the first one.

[Manc]

The stupidity in Making a Murderer is making me seeth.

[Yevrah]

What ep are you on Manc? Just a number will do, desperate to avoid spoilers. Which feels a bit wrong given the circumstances, but hey ho.

I'm halfway through episode 3 now and this has absolutely everything.

[Manc]

0.5. The drawing tipped me over the edge.

[John]

I've stopped at two for the night. It's great stuff but a bit heavy right before bed.

I look forward to logging on tomorrow to find Yev having finished it.

EDIT - Fucking hell, Manc. You should lay hands on some valium if you're seething now.

[Yevrah]

Another twist just casually chucked into the mix.

This is absolutely fucking ludicrous and in ways that keep changing by the minute.

[Pepe]

You will end up watching the whole thing straight won't you? :D

[Boydy]

That's where I am now and was thinking the same. :D
He threw a cat in a fucking fire!


Episode 1 done of Making a Murderer.

I've no idea how they string this out for 10 episodes, but that opener. Bloody hell. Quality documentary making.

But yeah, that's what I thought by the end too. I really wanted to go straight onto the second episode last night but I was too tired. Gonna start it now.

[Yevrah]

3 down and this is mentally dragging me all over the shop - it feels like I've been living with these people.

[Yevrah]

You will end up watching the whole thing straight won't you? :D

I won't lie, I'm not sure what's going to stop me.

I need to be in work by 7 on Monday morning, I'm going to be fucking ruined.

[Dark Soldier]

Its phenomenal, I've got the last three to watch, getting back into it tomorrow.

[Yevrah]

Episode 4 was slower, but a quite brilliant end to it means we carry on. :eek:

[Pepe]

I'm done with seven. :drool:

[Yevrah]

Halfway through now (5 down) and this is up there with the best things I've ever seen.

Netflix have basically broken regular terrestrial documentaries, maybe even terrestrial tv shows full stop, with it.

[igor_balis]

Might make a start on that tomorrow, you fuckers have got me all excited.

[Yevrah]

6 down. Another slower one, but things are coming together. :drool:

1 more and then I might need a Maccy D's to keep me going.

[Yevrah]

8 episodes finished now.

So much I want to say, but can't. I don't even...

[Ian]

New series of Endeavour tonight. Allam. :drool:

[Foe]

8 episodes finished now.

So much I want to say, but can't. I don't even...

Yev you're a tropper. First Eibar and now to a lesser extent this. Good grief.

[Yevrah]

On the last episode now Foe. :beer:

There's a thread looming.

[Foe]

Brilliant.

I like having shit, pointless goals like this. My quest for the IMDb top 250 is similar in that it's soul destroying and pointless.

[Giggles]

I'm on episode 3. I can see it getting done today.

[Yevrah]

Brilliant.

I like having shit, pointless goals like this. My quest for the IMDb top 250 is similar in that it's soul destroying and pointless.

It's not really a goal, I genuinely can't stop watching. I probably should have just read a Wiki article, but what a ride it's been.

[Manc]

Fair play, Yev. I'd imagine I'll revisit this at some point today.

[SvN]

I watched it all in one sitting too. I genuinely don't think I'd have been able to sleep until I'd finished it. I've been on https://www.reddit.com/r/makingamurderer ever since.

[Yevrah]

To the thread SvN. Which will be full of all episode spoilers, no tags.

[Giggles]

I'm really fighting the urge not to just read about the case now.

[Yevrah]

I'm really fighting the urge not to just read about the case now.

That's part of the reason I decided to watch it all in one sitting. IMHO it'll ruin part of what's a quite brilliant documentary if you Google it.

[Ian]

The first few posts in here made it sound like utter drivel so to read through and read all the gushing then surprised me.

[Giggles]

That's part of the reason I decided to watch it all in one sitting. IMHO it'll ruin part of what's a quite brilliant documentary if you Google it.

There's enough twists and surprises to keep me on it for now.

[Angelsaint]

There was fuck all on yesterday so I watched the 10 series 3 episodes of Brooklyn Nine Nine again. It's so class.

This. See? You should listen to what I say.

Anywho saw 6 episodes of zoo and I am addicted. Dunno if it is the lack of good camera editing or the credibility of animals kicking the humans ass but I am addicted.
While watching those 6 episodes I took a look at Irobot( what's the point with the long narratives? Narcos should have been a lesson.), flash( better then first season but then again... And limitless... I came back to Zoo :cool:

[The Merse]

Binged on Making A Murderer over Friday and yesterday, think I ended up watching the 10 episodes in around 18 hours, having only taken a break to sleep. Superb stuff.

It's got an agenda and shirks objectivity, so I wouldn't like to use that film to form a judgement of the case whatsoever, but it is impossibly compelling and a large part of that has to come down to the impossibly shitty treatment of Bobby Dassey by his Attorney and Attorney's investigator, along with the incompetence of the sheriffs and that there is plenty of reason to suspect some form of corruption.


I watched it all in one sitting too. I genuinely don't think I'd have been able to sleep until I'd finished it. I've been on https://www.reddit.com/r/makingamurderer ever since.

I got straight on the reddit too - I'm quite amazed at how it took me a fortnight or so to watch it, based on that Joe.IE article, and then it's consumed an entire weekend.

[John]

This. See? You should listen to what I say.

Anywho saw 6 episodes of zoo and I am addicted. Dunno if it is the lack of good camera editing or the credibility of animals kicking the humans ass but I am addicted.
While watching those 6 episodes I took a look at Irobot( what's the point with the long narratives? Narcos should have been a lesson.), flash( better then first season but then again... And limitless... I came back to Zoo :cool:

Zoo is complete drivel, and we were all watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine on the old board.

[John Arne]

Saint claiming that to have discovered Nine Nine :D

[Giggles]

3 to go :drool:

So glad I kept watching.

[Pepe]

Watching the whole thing in one sitting. :D

I'll probably be done by Tuesday the earliest, which means I'll miss the discussion. :(

I do think it is the best thing I've watched since The Wire.

[Baz]

Gonna get started on Making A Murderer soon I reckon. Our Mike recommended it about two weeks ago so I've had them downloaded and ready to go for a while. Hope it's good.

[Giggles]

Best TV show I've watched since Southland. Brilliant stuff.

[igor_balis]

Soz to distract from the Making of a Murderer chat, but I'm into series 3 of Suits and still enjoying it. However, it does feel a bit like they're doing that annoying thing of stretching out plots and storylines about 5 episodes too long to fill time. The friend who recommended it to me says she's up to series 7 and it is still well worth watching, and I'm pretty dubious.

As a general aside about trashy tv, I have been reminded of my least favourite plot device ever created, which I will call the 'unrealistic misunderstanding', a real staple of the very worst tv dramas and soap operas. E.g. character A hears something bad that character B has done or said from character C, which creates tension which lasts about 4 episodes, whereas in reality character A would confront character B immediately, at which point character B would go 'nah mate, that's bollocks'. Infuriating.

[Foe]

Where can I get it from?
It's not on Sky boxsets seemingly.

[Manc]

Finally finished the first episode. Woof.

[Angelsaint]

Saint claiming that to have discovered Nine Nine :Dwhere do I claim that? I do recall me and ital going against the majority when talking good about 99.

Also Zoo can be shit but after 6 episodes it's addictive. I do understand that the lack of American tricks may bore the easier minds...

[John]

Where can I get it from?
It's not on Sky boxsets seemingly.

It's just been released on Netflix.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

where do I claim that? I do recall me and ital going against the majority when talking good about 99.

Also Zoo can be shit but after 6 episodes it's addictive. I do understand that the lack of American tricks may bore the easier minds...

False, people said that 99 hasn't been as good this year but it picked up after 3/4 episodes and that the Christmas episode was brilliant.

[John]

where do I claim that? I do recall me and ital going against the majority when talking good about 99.

Also Zoo can be shit but after 6 episodes it's addictive. I do understand that the lack of American tricks may bore the easier minds...

You're definitely remembering that incorrectly.

As for 'the lack of American tricks', and the mention of 'easier minds'. Lol. In the first episode of Zoo an inexplicably CGI rhinoceros is scared out of scope of a sniper by a scientist bloke playing James Brown at it. You moaned about long-form narrative earlier, so I'd suggest you're the easily bored one.

[Giggles]

It's just been released on Netflix.

Never actually realised they do it all at once. I thought all the talk was just because the last one had come out.

[Mazuuurk]

Right, I heard here and there that the Making a Murderer is good. I liked The Jinx, but only ever so much. But this is a lot better, yeah?

Probably gonna give it a go as soon as the lad is asleep tonight, then.

It's that, or "The Intern", which admittedly seems entertaining.

[John]

If you're in the mood to watch The Intern you probably don't want to watch Making a Murderer.

[Adamski]

Soz to distract from the Making of a Murderer chat, but I'm into series 3 of Suits and still enjoying it. However, it does feel a bit like they're doing that annoying thing of stretching out plots and storylines about 5 episodes too long to fill time. The friend who recommended it to me says she's up to series 7 and it is still well worth watching, and I'm pretty dubious.

As a general aside about trashy tv, I have been reminded of my least favourite plot device ever created, which I will call the 'unrealistic misunderstanding', a real staple of the very worst tv dramas and soap operas. E.g. character A hears something bad that character B has done or said from character C, which creates tension which lasts about 4 episodes, whereas in reality character A would confront character B immediately, at which point character B would go 'nah mate, that's bollocks'. Infuriating.

Suits is only on season 5. It's watchable and still enjoyable but it's not groundbreaking by any stretch of the imagination. The misunderstanding are still as frequent.

[Adamski]

If you're in the mood to watch The Intern you probably don't want to watch Making a Murderer.

Have you seen The Intern? Interested to know your thoughts on it. I actually quite enjoyed it.

[Angelsaint]

You're definitely remembering that incorrectly.

As for 'the lack of American tricks', and the mention of 'easier minds'. Lol. In the first episode of Zoo an inexplicably CGI rhinoceros is scared out of scope of a sniper by a scientist bloke playing James Brown at it. You moaned about long-form narrative earlier, so I'd suggest you're the easily bored one.

Not going to try to look arrogant or anything but rhino reaction is correct. Rhinos are territorial not adventurous. Seems to be a misperception by the easier minds.

[igor_balis]

Suits is only on season 5. It's watchable and still enjoyable but it's not groundbreaking by any stretch of the imagination. The misunderstanding are still as frequent.

Ah, my friend was talking bollocks then.

[John]

Have you seen The Intern? Interested to know your thoughts on it. I actually quite enjoyed it.

Maybe half an hour before turning it off. It's flimsy comedy tosh though, so not to be watched in the same mindset as Making of a Murderer.


Not going to try to look arrogant or anything but rhino reaction is correct. Rhinos are territorial not adventurous. Seems to be a misperception by the easier minds.

What? At least try to make your rambling germane to the post you're quoting.

[Yevrah]

How are you getting on with MaM John?

[John]

How are you getting on with MaM John?

Stopped at two last night and haven't put it on since. I'll probably do another two tonight, more if I get as rabid for it as you did.

[Mazuuurk]

If you're in the mood to watch The Intern you probably don't want to watch Making a Murderer.

Yeah I can see that, they do seem a little like polar opposites. I'm not really in the mood for anything in particular out of them. I'm just weary of starting something cliffhangy at 10pm the day before I go back to work :uhoh:

Lad just went to sleep now, and here I'm sat watching Family Guy on TV because I can't decide :moop:

[Mazuuurk]

And just like that Godzilla (90's one) came on TV and made it all even harder.

[Jeet]

Series finale of Ash vs Evil Dead was pretty good. Wondered how they would continue the story into series 2. Ash being Ash, all about him. :D

[Mazuuurk]

Went with Making a Murderer in the end. Staying out of Yevs thread until I've seen more though.

[Mazuuurk]

That said having seen the first episode, I feel I have a good clue where this all is going.

[Manc]

Episode two watched. Fuming. I may implode before I reach the end.

[Mazuuurk]

Just did as well, Sean. This is some True Detective stuff right here. Already more intriguing than The Jinx I reckon.

[Baz]

Just blasted through four of them. My word. :D

If I didn't have work tomorrow, I could definitely continue.

[Giggles]

I'm so glad I started it first thing because there was no way I was stopping in the end.

[Boydy]

Just did as well, Sean. This is some True Detective stuff right here. Already more intriguing than The Jinx I reckon.

That's not Manc Sean.

[Mazuuurk]

That's not Manc Sean.

Oh, right, my bad. I'm really confused by peoples names on this new board.

[Boydy]

Oh, right, my bad. I'm really confused by peoples names on this new board.

He was quite new on the old board where he was just 'Manc' as well.

[Boydy]

Six episodes watched now. Tempted to watch another one but I should probably go to sleep.

[Boydy]

I watched episode 7. Tempted by the next one now too.

[SvN]

I don't see how you could stop, to be honest. I absolutely had to watch all 10 in one sitting, or it's all I'd have been thinking about.

[Angelsaint]

You guys talk very good things about the leftovers. I watched the first episode and was like... Meh!
Is it like the wire that it gets a lot better or this is all I can expect?

[Giggles]

You guys talk very good things about the leftovers. I watched the first episode and was like... Meh!
Is it like the wire that it gets a lot better or this is all I can expect?

It's very good, worth sticking with a bit further anyway. I've only seen series 1 though.

[Adamski]

I've watched the first 8 episodes of Brooklyn Nine-Nine in the past two days and it's good. But so far, I'd say it's a bit overrated.

I think I gave up halfway through season 2. Im all for a bit of comedy but I need to see character development or overarching plots spanning more than one episode.

[Mazuuurk]

Right, well watched half of Episode 3 of MaM yesterday, and the other half this morning.

Reckon that's probably the best way to avoid the urge to just keep watching. Stop at some point mid-episode instead of right at the ends of them. Given work and that, it'll take me the good part of this whole week to get through them all.

Dying to go into Yevs thread, mind you :moop:

[Baz]

Same here, Maz. Eager to vent!

I've recommended it to my mate but she's not very tech savvy. Is it on UK Netflix? She's got that but wouldn't be able to deal with changing the country on her PS4. If not I'll stick it on USB.

[Giggles]

Same here, Maz. Eager to vent!

I've recommended it to my mate but she's not very tech savvy. Is it on UK Netflix? She's got that but wouldn't be able to deal with changing the country on her PS4. If not I'll stick it on USB.

Yep it is.

[Mazuuurk]

Ok 6 episodes watched. Gutted I won't be able to finish this until tomorrow evening at best.

Anyway, this is what I think so far. Spoilers within (up til episode 6), obviously:


1. While endearing, the Averys seem a little retarded the whole lot. They must be quite inbred or something.
2. I feel the Judge is a bit of a twat, he's either in on this or is just a bastard
3. Still waiting to see how this all is related to that first cousin of someone who accused Steve Avery of wanking on her car or some such, cause I reckon it may tie back to that.
4. Barbs Husband and, is it Brother...(?) seem implicated in some way. They may be the killers I reckon, them or that Lenk fellow.
5. This is way better than The Jinx, and that wasn't bad.

[Yevrah]

If it helps Maz the thread I started isn't that good. Which isn't to say it's full of bad posts, more that the documentary is so comprehensive that there isn't a great deal to discuss once you've seen all the episodes.

You're 100% better to wait and then go in once you're done.

[Mazuuurk]

Also, two more things...


1. All people in this are such clichés, I'm occasionally struggling to even believe this is all real (which is partly what I suspect makes it so good).
2. These two lawyers are fucking heroes, regardless of who is guilty of what here.

[Mazuuurk]

If it helps Maz the thread I started isn't that good. Which isn't to say it's full of bad posts, more that the documentary is so comprehensive that there isn't a great deal to discuss once you've seen all the episodes.

You're 100% better to wait and then go in once you're done.

That does help, if only a little, cheers :)

[igor_balis]

Not sure if this is the right thread for it but I just watched this episode again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OI3r9YOWDw

:(

[Boydy]

:D

[Magic]

Jesus Christ.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

[John]

That's great.

[Toby]

Well, I'm on the Making a Murderer bandwagon, albeit very slowly as I stupidly offered to watch it with others. Is there anybody in Manitowac who isn't a thunderously awful human being? Just blow the whole place up. What a band of bastards.

[Magic]

Its so far beyond the human imagination. That's why fact/history completely outweighs fiction.

[Toby]

Bore off Harold.

[igor_balis]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12410592_10153234554777124_1659600288694832684_n.j pg?oh=bb32dae8f556f7620ce6a83cbb5ee493&oe=57129C50

[Bernanke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8Q0bJ_zO7w

This looks pretty good, but Lithgow as Churchill is gonna be difficult to see as anything but "Lithgow pretending to be Churchill".

[Ian]

Just watched the newest episode of Endeavour. Enjoyed it a lot. The outcome of the case in it was pretty far-fetched but I can live with that.

EDIT: First new episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine was great.

https://screenranks.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/tumblr_nvdk9mzwnc1r2onp5o1_1280.png

:D

[igor_balis]

http://s12.postimg.org/4z7e6q2lp/simps.png

Some bloke talking about The Simpsons. I think that's one of the most distressing things I've ever read.

[phonics]

The new episodes are actually really good. There was a definite dip there but they know what they're doing now and I regularly get laughs from them.

[wullie]

Started watching Master of None. It's nice he cast his own parents, but they really should have got an actress in for the mum.

[Josh]

It's a great show. The parents acting is so ridiculous that it's funny and maybe that was the point?

[Giggles]

Brooklyn Nine Nine has been very good, but the latest episode from the other night (E11) was absolutely terrible.

[Giggles]

Started watching Master of None. It's nice he cast his own parents, but they really should have got an actress in for the mum.

I'd started with that too but then Making a Murderer happened. Need to get back at it.

[wullie]

It's a great show. The parents acting is so ridiculous that it's funny and maybe that was the point?

I've read people say that she reminds them of their own parents so they both might work for people, but it's a bit too jarring for me. I've only seen her in the one episode, but it felt like she may as well have been holding a script in front of her face.

[wullie]

I'm on E4 pace from Brooklyn Nine-Nine, good start with the double bill. I'd have been happy with Bill Hader hanging round with a different character, but I hope The Vulture's a fixture for a while now at least. He's such a great douche sleaze in this and in 30 Rock.

[phonics]

They're making a Deadwood movie :drool:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElAcu-1dlPM

[Alex]

Fucking hell. I'm genuinely a little bit giddy about that news.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

The new episodes are actually really good. There was a definite dip there but they know what they're doing now and I regularly get laughs from them.

Seriously?

I don't think I could ever bring myself to bother again, even reading things like that.

[Alex]

I've been watching lots of Six Feet Under recently after my brother got me the box set for Christmas. I'm almost up to the end of the second season and I'm enjoying it a lot. Michael C. Hall particularly is great in it.

[Bob Sacamano]

Anyone bothered with F Is For Family at all? I'm tempted to dive in now.

[Manc]

I've been advised by a LAD at work to start watching Archer. Thoughts?

[Baz]

Do you like cartoons?

[Bernanke]

Best comedy on right now.

[Baz]

Good timing. The best comedy is Workaholics. New series starts today. :drool: Soooooo excited.

[Bob Sacamano]

Good timing. The best comedy is Workaholics. New series starts today. :drool: Soooooo excited.

Oh shit.

Though I felt Season 5 was weak compared to the others.

Hope we get another Bradley episode :cool:

[Ian]

I've been advised by a LAD at work to start watching Archer. Thoughts?

Do it.

[Manc]

This Asian lass on Location. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Watching The Americans season two:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CloA0LWwuP4

Brings tears of joy.

Fuck Jesus :drool:

Phillip :cool:

[Alex]

Phil. :hail:

What a fucking man he is. After I had watched that episode the first thing I did was hit Youtube to find that clip. :D

The daughter is so fucking annoying as well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Phil. :hail:

What a fucking man he is. After I had watched that episode the first thing I did was hit Youtube to find that clip. :D

The daughter is so fucking annoying as well.
I paused the episode to find the clip so I could watch it again, I needed to relive the glorious moment again straight away.

She was pretty innocuous in the first season but damn have they turned the twat factor up to 11 for her.

[Alex]

It's that initial "....we help you", combined with the "is this little bitch fucking serious" look that makes it. You know he's about to go on one then. :drool:

Phil is hands down one of my favourite characters on TV at the moment. Elizabeth not so much, she kind of of annoys me a lot of the time. The Americans is great though. In fact it should be back on soon, I think.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's that initial "....we help you", combined with the "is this little bitch fucking serious" look that makes it. You know he's about to go on one then. :drool:

Phil is hands down one of my favourite characters on TV at the moment. Elizabeth not so much, she kind of of annoys me a lot of the time. The Americans is great though. In fact it should be back on soon, I think.
I've warmed to Elizabeth slightly but in the first season I absolutely hated her.

And yeah, it's back in March so I'm hoping to be all caught up by then.

[phonics]

Should I dive into The Americans then? I dropped it at an episode where someone broke into their garage and failed to find a dead body about episode 4. It seemed awful.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It gets better.

Season 1 took a while to really grip me.

[Alex]

Yeah, I would say it;s definitely worth persevering with. Especially now there's quite a lot of it to be getting on with. The premise in general is pretty ridiculous, but once you get past that it's pretty gripping stuff.

[Bernanke]

S3 is up there with the best seasons of TV I've ever seen. S2 drags a bit, but overall it's an amazing show.

And I actually find Paige to be somewhat understandable in her annoyingness (plus she's actually a capable actress). And she has the best scene in the entire show so far.

And Phil, “Which year? Because ’64 to ’72 were pussies, they didn’t even medal.” :drool: The intro scenes with Tusk playing are so good. Actually, the music throughout the show is stellar.

[Baz]

Was talking about Making A Murderer to someone I sometimes work with the other day. She couldn't decide whether to watch it cos she didn't really get what it was about. After I'd gone over the basic premise she thought for a bit and then said "you know what it sounds like, only not as good, and you should definitely watch on Catch Up... Silent Witness. It's brill." :wtf:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://tvline.com/2016/01/16/the-punisher-series-netflix-spinoff-jon-bernthal/

Netflix are, apparently, close to ordering a Punisher series after they like Jon Bernthal's portrayal in the upcoming Daredevil season.

[Bernanke]

http://i.imgur.com/rRahdWm.jpg

[Boydy]

Is that any good? I don't think I've seen you mention it before.

[Bernanke]

We discuss it literally 5 posts up.

[Boydy]

Ugh, forget it.

[Yevrah]

:D

You're wasted here Boyd.

[Giggles]

Whoosh and a half.

[Yevrah]

I've just noticed that The Fall is coming back for a third series. Talk about flogging a dead horse.

[Alex]

S3 is up there with the best seasons of TV I've ever seen. S2 drags a bit, but overall it's an amazing show.

And I actually find Paige to be somewhat understandable in her annoyingness (plus she's actually a capable actress). And she has the best scene in the entire show so far.

And Phil, “Which year? Because ’64 to ’72 were pussies, they didn’t even medal.” :drool: The intro scenes with Tusk playing are so good. Actually, the music throughout the show is stellar.

That was the exact moment I knew I was going to stick with it, such a cool scene.

The music is really good on it. The other stand out example being Fleetwood Mac again actually.

In season three, where they kidnap the South African bloke whilst "The Chain" is playing.

[Bernanke]

That was the exact moment I knew I was going to stick with it, such a cool scene.

The music is really good on it. The other stand out example being Fleetwood Mac again actually.

In season three, where they kidnap the South African bloke whilst "The Chain" is playing.

I looked through all of the seasons, and the most memorable music moments for me were (all seasons spoilers):

S1E13 ending with Games Without Frontiers.
S2E3 when Elizabeth burns the letter and they play Here Comes the Flood.
The two Yazoo-songs in S3E4, especially when Stan searches the diner bathroom.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Should I dive into The Americans then? I dropped it at an episode where someone broke into their garage and failed to find a dead body about episode 4. It seemed awful.

I watched 2 or 3 and didn't take to it either.

[Bernanke]

I'm three episodes in to Making A Murderer and my blood is fucking boiling.

[Toby]

Brace yourself, we've just got to the fourth and it's comfortably the most infuriating yet. Almost everybody involved is a cunt of previously unimagined extremes.

[Yevrah]

"A cunt of previously unimagined extremes."

:D

[Pepe]

Quite accurate.

[Toby]

While we're on the subject, since I'm watching too slowly to dare open the dedicated thread, minor spoiler up to episode four of Making a Murderer:

I struggled to sympathise with Steven as much as I maybe should have, but it's surely impossible not to feel awful for his nephew.

[Ian]

All caught up with Endeavour and it's still really good. It's a pity that

the cases have been a bit far-fetched in this series

because everything else about it is bang-on. Setting up stuff that ties in to Inspector Morse, the cast are great (Allam :cool:) and it's just nice to watch a good detective in a different sort of setting.

[Kikó]

Okay just starting episode two of making a murderer. Looking forward to understanding the hype.

[John]

Less than a minute into the first episode of Angie Tribeca and I've lolled four times. This is going to be Naked Gun with Rashida Jones in it. :drool:

[John]

I reckon this might top 30 Rock in terms of punchlines per minute. Every single line is either a setup or a punchline, and less than ten minutes in it's already gone deep into surrealist territory.

[igor_balis]

I've been watching lots of Six Feet Under recently after my brother got me the box set for Christmas. I'm almost up to the end of the second season and I'm enjoying it a lot. Michael C. Hall particularly is great in it.

Yeah I thought it was a brilliant show, binged all of it in about a fortnight a couple of years ago.

[Pepe]

Rashida Jones can't act.

[John]

She can. She's not a great actress and she won't elevate material, but she has a very good deadpan delivery and makes an excellent straight woman, both of which play perfectly into what's going on in that show.

I loved Naked Gun and have great affection for Rashida Jones thanks to Parks, so the :drool: was more for the intersection of two things I like than the effect they might have on eachother, but I've watched two episodes and it's justified on that basis too. It's really funny, and a lot of that is down to her ability to play ridiculous things completely straight.

[Vim]

Is it just created by Steve and Nancy Carell or is it also fully written by them?

[Mazuuurk]

Aren't most female actors usually straight? Just seems a little weird to note as a skill playing "straight" when almost every single role is a straight person. In fact, most gay people in TV series and films seem to be token gay dudes, for some reason.

[Boydy]

:D

He's not talking about sexuality.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_man_(stock_character)

[John Arne]

Lost in translation :)

[phonics]

Rashida Jones is not funny and a terrible actor to boot.

[wullie]

I still believe Karen was royally screwed over by Jim.

[Mazuuurk]

Err guys whether Rashida Jones is funny or can act is kind of irrelevant.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What's relevant is her sexuality.

Boydy, Bob's Burgers was back this week. Guess when the next episode is? 14th of fucking February.

27th September
11th October
18th October
8th November
15th November
17th January
14th February.

What shit scheduling that is.

[John Arne]

Aye, Brooklyn Nine Nine just had a random 3 week break, having had a two week break a couple of weeks earlier.