Do we live in a golden age of television?

[Disco]

I reckon the bits that weren't repeated ad nauseum at school the next day will probably have aged better than the rest.

Monkfish will still be amazing.

[wullie]

I constantly fight the urge to cheerily introduce myself to people as Ed Winchester.

[Offshore Toon]

I watched quite a lot of Spitting Image on YouTube some time at the end of last year (whenever South Africa were playing a northern hemisphere team) and it was great.

[John]

I watched all of Brasseye on YouTube recently. Every bit as good as it was at the time. I'm still not fully having it that the people they 'tricked' weren't in on the joke.

[Offshore Toon]

I watched all of Brasseye on YouTube recently. Every bit as good as it was at the time. I'm still not fully having it that the people they 'tricked' weren't in on the joke.
Yeah, Brass Eye is amazing. Even The Day Today and Morris' Radio 4(?) stuff is great.

[SvN]

I discovered On The Hour and the KMKY radio show a couple of years ago - they're both brilliant.

[Max Power]

Latest episode of Better Call Saul was superb. Up there with the best hours they did on Breaking Bad.

[Disco]

I watched quite a lot of Spitting Image on YouTube some time at the end of last year (whenever South Africa were playing a northern hemisphere team) and it was great.

It stands up well for the same reason Yes Minister does, good satire stays good and politics doesn't really change much over the years so a lot of what they're poking fun at is still relevant 20 or 30 years later.

[Offshore Toon]

I discovered On The Hour and the KMKY radio show a couple of years ago - they're both brilliant.
On The Hour! That's the one.

Announcing the death of Michael Heseltine on Radio 1 was proper lol as well.

[SvN]

This was one of my favourite parts:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mcJ4G4LZMk

[Adamski]

Latest episode of Better Call Saul was superb. Up there with the best hours they did on Breaking Bad.

I think I'm two behind now, really strong start to this season so far.

[randomlegend]

Just getting into season 3 of silicone valley and really enjoying it. Jin Yang is a great character :D

[Foe]

Need a new Netflix show to binge on. I'm trying to get into It's always sunny in Philadelphia but it's not gripping me.

The Killing?
Orphan Black?

Throw me some options.

I very much enjoyed Narcos, Stranger things, 13 reasons..

[Offshore Toon]

Always Sunny is pretty much the only thing I watch. The new season was much better than expected too.

[Alex]

Just getting into season 3 of silicone valley and really enjoying it. Jin Yang is a great character :D

Jian Yang is amazing. I sort of wish they gave him more screen time, but really the fact that they don't just makes it all the better when he does pop up to fuck with Erlich.

[Alex]

Always Sunny is pretty much the only thing I watch. The new season was much better than expected too.

I've watched the whole show start to finish this year, for the first time, and I agree on the latest season. It's a testament to how good it is that they're twelve seasons deep and still making some of their best episodes.

[Offshore Toon]

I've watched the whole show start to finish this year, for the first time, and I agree on the latest season. It's a testament to how good it is that they're twelve seasons deep and still making some of their best episodes.
I thought Season 11 they overplayed the whole Dennis is a serial killer and Mac is gay stuff, but this season it wasn't an issue. I wonder if Dennis has actually left the show or whether he'll just turn up next season.

[Alex]

I did read about his apparently possible departure. Glenn Howeron, more so than any of them, does actually seem to be a very talented actor, so I'm sure he's not short of offers. I heard that he was sort of in the running to play Starlord in Guardians of the Galaxy at one point, which I think would have been amazing. :D

I hope he doesn't leave the sure though, I'm not sure it would really work without him. I did also read that they're postponing the next season by a year too, so hopefully that's to accommodate him and give him time to do whatever else it is he's wanting to do.

[wullie]

I didn't really like the last season as much at first, but it stands up to repeat viewings, the ski episode in particular. I'm saving the new series for a binge.

[Offshore Toon]

I don't care that much for Dennis, but the chemistry feels perfect so best not to go on unless he definitely won't come back within a reasonable amount of time. I wonder how long Danny DeVito has left in him too.

[Dark Soldier]

The implication, full on rapist, and the limo ride with charlie are still the three funniest moments I've seen on TV.

Not watched the last two series, absolutely no idea why. Might start from the beginning again.

[Offshore Toon]

Can I offer you an egg in this trying time?

I laughed so much at the Rickety Cricket episode in the current season.

[wullie]

Jack Kelly is possibly my favourite minor character in all of TV

http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5711/41/original/640.jpg

[Dark Soldier]

He's still in it? :D

My favourite side character, his story arc throughout is phenomenal.

Edit: Rickety Cricket I mean

[Offshore Toon]

Yeah, RIckety gets his own episode. Just watch it. :D

The recurring characters are amazing. Jack Kelly is still going strong in the new series. "If I'd have known you were coming round I would have put my hands on."

[Alex]

The implication, full on rapist, and the limo ride with charlie are still the three funniest moments I've seen on TV.

Not watched the last two series, absolutely no idea why. Might start from the beginning again.

That whole initial conversation where Dennis explains "the implication" to Mac might be all time number one Always Sunny moment. So good.

[John]

I'll lay down money now on Lana being a jazz lounge singer at some point.

Less than five minutes before Archer was in a jazz lounge, less than ten before Lana popped up as the singer.

[Alex]

The second season of Master of None is out today, so I think I might get stuck in to that tonight. I've always been somewhat on the fence when it comes to Aziz Ansari (his stand-up and general persona can often come across as very try-hard in my opinion) but I really enjoyed the first season, I thought it was very well written and put together, and it always managed to ere just on the right side of being too contrived.

[Reg]

Happy to have that back too, Alex. I thought it was surprisingly well written to be honest. From the first couple of episodes I expected more of a pure comedy but it had a nice storyline and the dialogue is very natural. I saw on some youtube video that he'd [slight spoiler ahead of the new season] gone off to Italy for research for this new season, so I assume he takes the writing pretty seriously.

[Ian]

Decided that for my "want to point my face at something without engaging brain" viewing I've decided I'm going to rewatch the two series of Daredevil, and Jessica Jones.

About halfway through the first Daredevil. It really was fucking good. Hope The Defenders is more like this and JJ than Luke Cage and especially Iron Fist. Hopefully the ensemble can dilute Loras' shitness.

[Bernanke]

Master of None Season 2 is up. 3 eps in and it's still amazing, and the parents are still the best part of it.

Edit: Missed your post Alex. :blush:

[Foe]

Opted for the thick of it.

It's pretty old, but quite amusing.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Master of None Season 2 is up. 3 eps in and it's still amazing, and the parents are still the best part of it.

Edit: Missed your post Alex. :blush:

I've watched the first two so far.

The second is brilliant.

Arnold :cool:

[Bernanke]

I wasn't feeling the first one, the kid was kinda shit, but I've missed the Arnold/Dev-dynamic so much. :wub:

The dad is incredible in the religion-episode, and the New York-episode is seriously creative.

[Byron]

Decided to watch the first two episodes of Line of Duty on a recommendation. Holy fuck it's brilliant.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wasn't feeling the first one, the kid was kinda shit, but I've missed the Arnold/Dev-dynamic so much. :wub:

The dad is incredible in the religion-episode, and the New York-episode is seriously creative.

Up to 4 now.

3 was indeed great because of the Dad, I think he's utterly brilliant.

[Alex]

I wasn't feeling the first one, the kid was kinda shit, but I've missed the Arnold/Dev-dynamic so much. :wub:

The dad is incredible in the religion-episode, and the New York-episode is seriously creative.

I think I'm six episodes in and the religion episode if my favourite one so far. The scene at the end, juxtaposing Dev in the bar mingling with all his friends and his parents at the mosque socialising with all their friends was so good, and a great example of why I think it's a really cleverly written show. He really has got a great knack for casting things a light that make me look at them in a way that I had never considered before.

[Yevrah]

Twin Peaks back next week. :drool:

[Adamski]

This season of Better Call Saul has been :drool:

Really enjoying Goliath as well, did you start it Giggles?

[Magic]

Twin Peaks back next week. :drool:

Cast?

[Bernanke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q821mNXNw-I

Forgot about this. :D

[Boydy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q821mNXNw-I

Forgot about this. :D

That's brilliant. :D

I'm three episodes in. The religion one is probably my least favourite so far. I find his parents kinda annoying because their acting is terrible.

Second one was probably my favourite. Him and Arnold bromancing around Italy was great and I love all that quarter/third-life crisis angsty stuff.

[Magic]

Is that supposed to be funny? It's no surprise that the most miserable cunt on here and someone who barely soaks English enjoy it.

[SvN]

Soak it in, maaaaan.

[Boydy]

Loooooooooool.

[Magic]

:D

Ah fuck it.

Lol that I thought SvN posted a gay reference rather than look at my post for mistakes.

[Giggles]

This season of Better Call Saul has been :drool:

Really enjoying Goliath as well, did you start it Giggles?

Yeah, two episodes so far, it's excellent.

The end of the second episode was rather unexpected.

[John]

Brooklyn Nine Nine has been renewed for a fifth season. Good stuff.

[Giggles]

Got a lot better as the series went on.

[Magic]

Brooklyn Nine Nine has been renewed for a fifth season. Good stuff.

99! :drool:

[John Arne]

Yeah, it definitely turned a corner mid-way through this season. The last half of last season, and beginning of this were pretty average - it's got better lately.

Anyone still watching The Americans... I loved the first 4 seasons, however, the last 4 or 5 episodes of season 5.... literally nothing has happened. It's so boring.

[Bernanke]

I've seen critique that this season of it is dragging elsewhere and I can totally see where it's coming from. There's no clear "arc" this season as opposed to earlier, which amplifies it as well.

[Alex]

That's brilliant. :D

I'm three episodes in. The religion one is probably my least favourite so far. I find his parents kinda annoying because their acting is terrible.

Second one was probably my favourite. Him and Arnold bromancing around Italy was great and I love all that quarter/third-life crisis angsty stuff.

Maybe I'm alone on this, but Arnold is probably my least favourite thing about the show. I find him really annoying. I know it's a comedy, but all that "hey cutie" nonsense just made cringe, I just want to punch him in the face.

I agree with you on the quarter/third-life crisis aspect of the show though, that's one of my favourite things about it. I think I mainly enjoy that because it's somewhat reassuring to see depictions of people roughly the same age as you who also don't really have their lives together. :D

[Pleb]

So the new X-Men-The Giffted tv trailer looks fucking incredible :drool:

[John]

The 'Hot Dog or Not' app from Silicon Valley is actually on the app store. :D

[Adamski]

I seen that on Product Hunt, haven't seen the latest episode though so that was a nice spoiler from them.

[John]

I don't know how 'Product Hunt' have gone about reporting that, but if all they've done is mentioned that the app exists and is linked to the show then it won't be much of a spoiler.

[Magic]

You 'saw' it, you fucking west coast inbred freaks.

[Adamski]

I don't know how 'Product Hunt' have gone about reporting that, but if all they've done is mentioned that the app exists and is linked to the show then it won't be much of a spoiler.

It's real, no need for 'quotations'

Magic it was on my second screen at the time I was posting, ken?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So the sixth episode of Master of None:

The deaf scenes were really strange and almost a little unnerving because they were completely silent. Although it was kind of cool to 'be in their shoes' in some way.

[Boydy]

I thought that was great. I was surprised at how much I laughed during that bit too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought that was great. I was surprised at how much I laughed during that bit too.

Definitely, it was really done well.

[Reg]

I binge-watched the whole second season over Friday and the weekend, and it's the best thing I've watched in months. So well written, believable, funny, warm.

[Yevrah]

Cast?

I'm trying to avoid even cast spoilers, but almost everyone who was in the show and almost everyone who wasn't.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and Francesca :wub:

[Boydy]

Dev doing the instagram name bit in the thanksgiving episode had me howling with laughter.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dev doing the instagram name bit in the thanksgiving episode had me howling with laughter.

:nodd:

[Boydy]

I think after I've finished this I'm going to watch all two seasons again. I was going to watch the first one again before starting the second but couldn't wait when I saw you lot chatting about it on here.

I love it so much.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Started on Peaky Blinders the other day and I love it.

Currently on season 2 and I should probably hate Tom Hardy's accent but I don't, I think it's amazing.

[ItalAussie]

Apparently there's going to be four spin-off prequel series to Game of Thrones. :cab:

[Ian]

Apparently there's going to be four spin-off prequel series to Game of Thrones. :cab:

Make that five (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/16/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-spinoffs-all-prequels-hbo-winds-of-winter).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell.

Although I would like to see more of the Mad King.

[Jimmy Floyd]

You must need a budget the size of Italy's GDP just to make one of them. American TV is stupid.

[randomlegend]

A 'Witcher' TV series has been announced for Netflix.

Not sure how I feel about that. If they do it right that could be great.

If not....well.

[Dark Soldier]

Its based on the books, not the game, so will probably be wildly different.

Also Game of Thrones is absolute fucking shit.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Apparently there's going to be four spin-off prequel series to Game of Thrones. :cab:

Robert's Rebellion is what I'm looking forward to.

[Ian]

Its based on the books, not the game, so will probably be wildly different.

Surely any media will be so long as the author has the rights? They can still take a leaf out of CDPR's book as long as they don't thieve the story outright. They're doing it because of the success of the games anyway.

That said I think the author might've complained about CDPR's story so he may have said they have to be more faithful.

[Dark Soldier]

If Gwent is in it I'll watch, if its yet more fantasy mcguff then meh.

[ItalAussie]

Robert's Rebellion is what I'm looking forward to.

Martin's explicitly ruled that out.

https://theringer.com/george-r-r-martin-game-of-thrones-spinoffs-roberts-rebellion-dunk-and-egg-4d312058434f

No Robert's Rebellion. No Dunk and Egg.


So Robert’s Rebellion, the massive civil war before the massive civil war on Game of Thrones, won’t get its own show because “by the time I finish writing A Song of Ice and Fire, you will know every important thing that happened in Robert’s Rebellion.” The Tales of Dunk and Egg, the ongoing series of prequel novellas costarring a future Kingsguard commander and a future Targaryen king, won’t happen either, because “I’ve only written and published three novellas to date, and there are at least seven or eight or 10 more I want to write … I don’t want to repeat what happened with Game of Thrones itself, where the show gets ahead of the books. When the day comes that I’ve finished telling all my tales of Dunk and Egg, then we’ll do a TV show about them … but that day is still a long ways off.”

I mentioned this in the book thread, but I find it vaguely satisfying that he's irked by the show getting ahead of the books.

[John]

The 'Dunk and Egg' thing is irritating. If he wants to write Robert's Rebellion himself rather than allowing it to be made on TV first then he should fucking well get to writing it, rather than doing a load of fun little novellas.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He wants to write 10 novellas and then do a show about them? Does he have access to the elixir of life?

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

He'll be dead by then anyway and someone will end up doing it.

[Dark Soldier]

Three Girls is astonishing and harrowing. Fantastic performances all round and it highlights how fucked the social services, and child welfare is around here.

[Reg]

I think after I've finished this I'm going to watch all two seasons again. I was going to watch the first one again before starting the second but couldn't wait when I saw you lot chatting about it on here.

I love it so much.
I re-watched the first season not too long ago, and it definitely pays to watch it again. I'm going to have to watch the second season again in a few months - it's so damn good.

Surprised to see mixed opinion about episode 1. I thought that was great. It got across the feel of the city really well - maybe it was just the overhead shots of the cobbled streets.

The whole thing feels so polished.

[John]

The Twin Peaks reboot kicked off last night with four episodes coming out at once. :drool:

[wullie]

I never got round to seeing the original series properly, is it a necessity before watching this?

[Baz]

I never got round to seeing the original series properly, is it a necessity before watching this?Course it is!

[Yevrah]

What's the crack with the Twin Peaks episodes? I downloaded what I thought was 1 this morning, but then saw it was 1hr 50mins long. Is that 1 and 2 then, or are there another three after the 1hr 50min opener. I'd use Google to look, but I don't want any spoilers.

Loved the opener by the way, but more on that later.

[John]

All I know is that they opened with a double episode then released two more online immediately afterwards, so presumably some downloads are combining one and two and just labelling it one, while others are splitting the feature length opener into two episodes.

I'd just download two anyway, since rewatching thirty seconds and turning it off isn't as problematic as accidentally skipping an episode.

[Yevrah]

Cheers John, that's what I've gone for.

Have you watched (any of it) yet?

[John]

I've downloaded the lot, but I won't get into it until tonight.

There's far more good TV this month than I have time to watch, so I've just been hoarding stuff for weeks. Fargo, The Leftovers, Better Call Saul, and The Americans will all have to be binged when they're done, so there's a chance I'll be running about three weeks late on Twin Peaks at all times.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought I was done with Gotham after the second season but for some reason I decided to fire up the first episode of the third.

I really wish I hadn't as it's somehow even worse and I know that I wont be able to stop.

[Yevrah]

Finished the first 4 episodes of Twin Peaks. Given the original series raised the tv bar and has been copied so much since, I couldn't really see how Lynch could bring Twin Peaks back and keep it loyal to its roots without it looking dated.

Fuck me has he managed it though.

[John]

The first two thirds of the original run was pure genius, but the minute the original mystery was solved it very quickly went very, very deep into the toilet, so the bar wasn't quite as high as it probably should have been.

One of my favourite things about the original series was how it managed to fit in profoundly odd little diversions which were utterly pointless but somehow never felt indulgent, like Sully from Commando turning up in the middle of a family meal with a bag full of cheese baguettes and everyone just abandoning the meal to riff on how good they were for ninety seconds. Is that stuff still in there?

[Boydy]

phonics do you still watch Mr Robot? I finished season 2 last night and I barely know what's going on now.

[Yevrah]

One of my favourite things about the original series was how it managed to fit in profoundly odd little diversions which were utterly pointless but somehow never felt indulgent, like Sully from Commando turning up in the middle of a family meal with a bag full of cheese baguettes and everyone just abandoning the meal to riff on how good they were for ninety seconds. Is that stuff still in there?

I thought so. There are some lovely touches.

[John]

I thought so. There are some lovely touches.

Excellent. A Maizy Doats reprise will make me a very happy man.

[Baz]

I thought the first two episodes of season two of Master Of None were really good but since then (I'm five in, I think) it's lost its appeal. The fun-factor of 'hahaha it's his real mum and dad' has completely gone away and that Religion episode was so so bad, it was like watching a Primary school assembly. :sick:

I'll stick with it and finish it, mainly due to the positive things said on here, but I'm still not a fan. I didn't like season one because I felt like it tried too hard to drive its point home, whereas season two is just not entertaining. Watching Dev sulk in a taxi listening to Soft Cell for what felt like three minutes isn't interesting.

[Giggles]

Finished Goliath, presumably it'll be a one off series by the looks of it. Anything similar?

[Boydy]

I thought the first two episodes of season two of Master Of None were really good but since then (I'm five in, I think) it's lost its appeal. The fun-factor of 'hahaha it's his real mum and dad' has completely gone away and that Religion episode was so so bad, it was like watching a Primary school assembly. :sick:

I'll stick with it and finish it, mainly due to the positive things said on here, but I'm still not a fan. I didn't like season one because I felt like it tried too hard to drive its point home, whereas season two is just not entertaining. Watching Dev sulk in a taxi listening to Soft Cell for what felt like three minutes isn't interesting.

Keep going till you get to the Thanksgiving episode.

[Alex]

Finished Goliath, presumably it'll be a one off series by the looks of it. Anything similar?

You would think so, wouldn't you? I had the exact same reaction when I finished it, but apparently it's been renewed for a second season.

[Giggles]

You would think so, wouldn't you? I had the exact same reaction when I finished it, but apparently it's been renewed for a second season.

Ah right, hadn't seen that. Definitely looked like an ending ending.

[Reg]

I quite liked Goliath. Had quite a unique feel to it (very creepy in parts). The storyline at the end felt a little unsatisfying though. All the actors were great, I should check out more of their stuff.

Bosch is another good Amazon series.

[Alex]

Ah right, hadn't seen that. Definitely looked like an ending ending.

I did seem very final, I was surprised it got another season.


I quite liked Goliath. Had quite a unique feel to it (very creepy in parts). The storyline at the end felt a little unsatisfying though. All the actors were great, I should check out more of their stuff.

Bosch is another good Amazon series.

I need to watch the new season of Bosch, I enjoyed the first two. It's nothing mind-blowing but it's a good, old-fashioned style detective show. I really like Titus Welliver too.

[Reg]

Yep, he's good in it. Not seen him in anything else. I'll probably renew my amazon tv thing for a month so I can watch the new season.

[Alex]

He's one of those guys who does a really good job in supporting roles in absolutely loads of things but very rarely seems to play the lead character in anything, so I was happy to seem him get top billing in Bosch.

[Giggles]

I had never heard tell of it at all before, but Bosch it is for me next.

[Adamski]

The missus told me Season 2 was definitely out and definitely on Amazon so I was watching Goliath with a view to there being a second season. Did seem very final.

Characters were great, story was alright. Loved the noir parts.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N28zf8sWc7Y

[Ian]

I think season 7 of Archer is the most I've properly laughed at it in ages.

Just had the episode where they've got a Hollywood director and his wife trying to get the gang to seduce the other and tape it, and Krieger had me laughing my balls off.


EDIT: Also I've just watched that GOT trailer. Thank goodness they're continuing the Grey Worm romance storyline. :moop:

[mugbull]

Just started (the original) Twin Peaks. Fuckin love it, everyone's so weird. I wonder what kind of activities David Lynch does in his free time.

[Baz]

Just started (the original) Twin Peaks. Fuckin love it, everyone's so weird. I wonder what kind of activities David Lynch does in his free time.Its ace isn't it. The FBI bloke is hysterical. A few episodes in someone he knows also from the FBI turns up and it's so funny.

Trying to convince my wife to finish it off so we can get started on the new ones, buts it proving tough.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think season 7 of Archer is the most I've properly laughed at it in ages.

Just had the episode where they've got a Hollywood director and his wife trying to get the gang to seduce the other and tape it, and Krieger had me laughing my balls off.


EDIT: Also I've just watched that GOT trailer. Thank goodness they're continuing the Grey Worm romance storyline. :moop:

The 8th is a bit lacklustre though, there are some good bits but a lot of 'meh'.

I'd say that it's better than Vice but not by much.

[Alex]

Just started (the original) Twin Peaks. Fuckin love it, everyone's so weird. I wonder what kind of activities David Lynch does in his free time.


Its ace isn't it. The FBI bloke is hysterical. A few episodes in someone he knows also from the FBI turns up and it's so funny.

Trying to convince my wife to finish it off so we can get started on the new ones, buts it proving tough.

Me too! I did watch the some (possibly all) of the first season many years ago but I've completely forgotten everything, so I re-started it from scratch today.

[Shindig]

I'd reccomend people stay away from youtube for Twin Peaks Season Three stuff. It's hit big. I might rewatch the first two and grab Fire Walk With Me at some point. And Baz, 'FBI bloke he knows' is David Lynch.

[Baz]

That just makes it even funnier. :D

We stopped watching it when there was a weird (what-seemed-like) backwards bit played forwards at the very end of an episode. A) WTF was that?? And B) could someone please tell me which episode number that is so I know where to carry on?

[John]

That'll be the 'Man From Another Place', somewhere early in season two I think. They had him record some dialogue, then reversed it, transcribed the results phonetically, had him record that, then played that recording backwards in the actual program. David Lynch is bonkers.

I found the second half of season two a real struggle. It feels like someone less imaginative has watched the first season and is trying to replicate that sort of balls out strangeness.

[Shindig]

More interestingly, Michael Cera is going to turn up in this. Presumably as a backwards ageing midget.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

8 episodes into the new season of Kimmy Schmidt and I'm liking it more than season 2. Titus is still the best thing about the show.

Maya Rudolph getting a part in the 8th episode pretty much ruined it though. Why is she seemingly in everything despite being absolute shit?

[Baz]

Keep going till you get to the Thanksgiving episode.Watched it this morning. Not worth it. The extra long one about his relationship with Francesa was okay though, but not great. I'm watching two shows at the moment - Maater Of None and Handmaids Tale. The fact that I'm so much more entertained by the latter is telling. Don't get me wrong, Handmaids Tale is really good and possibly the best representation of a book ever (!) but I watch that for srs bizzness, and hoped to get light relief from Master Of None, but it's just boring. Only one to go though!


That'll be the 'Man From Another Place', somewhere early in season two I think. They had him record some dialogue, then reversed it, transcribed the results phonetically, had him record that, then played that recording backwards in the actual program. David Lynch is bonkers.

I found the second half of season two a real struggle. It feels like someone less imaginative has watched the first season and is trying to replicate that sort of balls out strangeness.Was this on purpose? :moop: It was the fourth episode of season one I was upto. Took some finding because of this misdirection, and I was lucky to avoid spoilers.

[Boydy]

Maybe you're just a shit person.

[John]

Was this on purpose? :moop: It was the fourth episode of season one I was upto. Took some finding because of this misdirection, and I was lucky to avoid spoilers.

Nope, I honestly remembered that scene as being much further in than that. How have you gone about watching four episodes and forgetting where you were?

By the way, Workaholics has been cancelled.

[Spikey M]

Did anyone watch '3 Girls'? I think it's turned me racist.

[Baz]

Nope, I honestly remembered that scene as being much further in than that. How have you gone about watching four episodes and forgetting where you were?

By the way, Workaholics has been cancelled.It was a long time ago.

And nooooooooo, why? :cry: Genuinely distraught.

[Mazuuurk]

Does anyone watch BoJack Horseman? I've started recently and I can't quite figure out what it's supposed to be. It's not as funny as Archer or Rick & Morty, seems more like some sort of wonky cartoon drama almost, but something has me keeping watching it for some reason. It's mostly just weird.

[Giggles]

Never seen it but it's shi....

Sorry, don't shout at me.

[Ian]

Anybody watched any of American Gods yet?

[Boydy]

Does anyone watch BoJack Horseman? I've started recently and I can't quite figure out what it's supposed to be. It's not as funny as Archer or Rick & Morty, seems more like some sort of wonky cartoon drama almost, but something has me keeping watching it for some reason. It's mostly just weird.
Yeah. I love it. It's amazing.

[Alex]

Anybody watched any of American Gods yet?

Yeah, I'm up to date with it. What do you think of it? I reckon they're mostly doing a very good job with it. It looks fantastic too, the production values are top notch.

[Ian]

Yeah, I'm up to date with it. What do you think of it? I reckon they're mostly doing a very good job with it. It looks fantastic too, the production values are top notch.

Haven't seen it at all yet, but I'm off for ten days so I might give it a bash. Loved the book.

Was a bit "Ricky fucking Whittle!?" when it was announced.

[Adamski]

Anyone on Designated Survivor? Just started it.

[Alex]

Haven't seen it at all yet, but I'm off for ten days so I might give it a bash. Loved the book.

Was a bit "Ricky fucking Whittle!?" when it was announced.

Me too, he's quite good though. I think physically he's very well suited to the role. Obviously it's necessary for Shadow to talk and be expressive a lot more in the TV show than he is in the book (where he's basically just a big, surly, mute for quite a lot of the time) but he's doing alright, he's not over doing it. Ian McShane is predictably great as Wednesday. The guy playing Czernobog is also excellent.

The intersperse the "Coming to America" sections from the book into the show really well too. I think my only issue with it so far is they're obviously taking it as slow as they can with the pace. But I get that, because the book isn't that long really and obviously they want a few seasons out of it at least. They've added a few bits in to flesh it out but it's been done pretty well. I think Gaiman is quite heavily involved in it all.

[John]

It's all very glossy and well made, but I couldn't get into it at all. I was tired when I started it so I'll give it another go at some point, but I lasted about half an hour before turning it off. The bar fight, whenever that was.

Instinctively Pablo Schreiber seems like a terrible piece of casting for that role. They should have just did what they very clearly wanted to do and got Conor McGregor in.

[Alex]

He is definitely an odd choice for it, but they actually had to re-cast him in that role at the last minute. Apparently Sean Harris was meant to play him, and I think had even begun filming, but he had to leave for "personal reasons".

[Mazuuurk]

Yeah. I love it. It's amazing.

What's the appeal for you? I find myself sort of keeping to watch it, but I'm not sure why. It rarely makes me laugh, I don't care that much about the characters. But for some reason I still find it pretty decent.

[igor_balis]

Better Call Saul is ace, been an excellent season so far.

[phonics]

@phonics (http://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/member.php?u=1) do you still watch Mr Robot? I finished season 2 last night and I barely know what's going on now.

I missed this at the time. I binned it after the prison reveal. You can only take so much lying to the audience and then presenting it as a twist. I'll probably look up the ending on wikipedia.

[Boydy]

What's the appeal for you? I find myself sort of keeping to watch it, but I'm not sure why. It rarely makes me laugh, I don't care that much about the characters. But for some reason I still find it pretty decent.

Because it ranges from dumb sight gags about anthropomorphised animals through to trying to deal with the meaninglessness of life. And it does the latter pretty well. It gets quite dark at times.

I think it's in a similar vein to Rick and Morty. I'm surprised you don't like it.

[Boydy]

I missed this at the time. I binned it after the prison reveal. You can only take so much lying to the audience and then presenting it as a twist. I'll probably look up the ending on wikipedia.

Yeah, fair enough. That was bullshit.

[Mazuuurk]

Because it ranges from dumb sight gags about anthropomorphised animals through to trying to deal with the meaninglessness of life. And it does the latter pretty well. It gets quite dark at times.

I think it's in a similar vein to Rick and Morty. I'm surprised you don't like it.

No I do like it. But I can't figure out quite why.

Rick & Morty I find quite funny and clever. BoJack is not that funny, and sort of clever, but still has something.

[John]

Channel 4 have bought the rights to The Handmaid's Tale.

[Giggles]

PJ Gallagher was racing about it on his podcast last week and he hasn't led me astray yet, but that sounds a bit rough for me.

[Reg]

Better Call Saul is ace, been an excellent season so far.
Yeah it has been very enjoyable, it really picked up 3 or so episodes in. Excited to see where they take it, and how close they end up to Breaking Bad in the timeline.

Couple of good interviews I've watched recently with the actors who play Jimmy and Chuck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9hFdFIsv4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Dwr5uLLCs

[John]

It's incredibly grim, and often in absurd, unexpected ways. Absolutely brilliant though.

[Boydy]

Channel 4 have bought the rights to The Handmaid's Tale.

Didn't they start airing it last night?

[Alex]

Didn't they start airing it last night?

They did. There are seven episode out there though, I haven't seen any of them yet. I do mean to watch it at some point though. The book is quite heavy in places, and the media are inevitably going to draw some (admittedly very over the top) links between it's dystopia and the current political landscape of America, so I can imagine why it's causing a bit of a stir.

It airs on Hulu in American which, from what I can gather, is some sort of Netflix alternative that we don't have over here. They did the adaptation of that Stephen King book about time travel and the Kennedy assassination too. I forget the name. I haven't seen that either, it was also meant to be good.

[Boydy]

11/22/63. The book was alright. I haven't got around to watching the TV show yet.

I started The Handmaid's Tale (the book) a few years ago but got distracted and never finished it. I want to read the book before I watch the show. It wasn't my copy though so I need to buy it again.

[Alex]

11/22/63. The book was alright. I haven't got around to watching the TV show yet.

I started The Handmaid's Tale (the book) a few years ago but got distracted and never finished it. I want to read the book before I watch the show. It wasn't my copy though so I need to buy it again.

When it came out I didn't watch it because I wanted to read the book first, I'd heard it was one of his better ones. But I've not gotten around to it. I need to do that. It's quite a long read, isn't it? I almost picked up a copy a few months ago and it looked pretty weighty.

The Handmaid's Tale isn't very long, 300 pages or so. You could definitely pick up a copy and smash through it really quickly before you get onto the TV show.

[Boydy]

Yeah, it's pretty long. Longer than it needed to be, really. I don't think I've read anything else of his to know how it compares.

[John]

The media haven't been drawing Trump parallels as far as I can see, that's been the daft Trumpites who've seen the adverts and decided the whole thing is pure propaganda against him.

The Stephen King thing Hulu did was alright to a point, but it took itself far too seriously for what is essentially a campy time travel story.

In terms of production values Handmaid's Tale is better than even the best Netflix stuff, so Hulu obviously have their shit together. It'll be the best thing to appear on Channel 4 since Brasseye.

[Mazuuurk]

That Handmaids Tale just seems too grim to me.

[phonics]

House of Cards is out in an hour or so apparently.

[SvN]

It's been out since this morning.

[phonics]

House of Cards... Christ, I forgot it went a bit off the deep end last year. They're going to have to make one hell of a play out of it to make it worthwhile.

[Dquincy]

Is Fresh Meat worth watching? Need something on Sky Go for my train journeys.

[Reg]

Try one episode and you'll very quickly get a taste of what it's about. It doesn't change much.

[phonics]

It's okay. Some of it felt a bit too real for my liking but it's probably Whitehalls least annoying role.

[Boydy]

I quite liked him in Bad Education.

Did House of Cards get good again after whatever season it was I gave up on it? It was the one where she was wanting to run for some sort of office and he was saying no and she ran off to her old homeplace in a huff. Season 3?

[phonics]

I quite liked him in Bad Education.

Did House of Cards get good again after whatever season it was I gave up on it? It was the one where she was wanting to run for some sort of office and he was saying no and she ran off to her old homeplace in a huff. Season 3?

I'd forgot what happened in 4. It went bonkers.

[Reg]

I think I liked season 3 quite a lot (not as much as 1 and 2), season 4 less so - but still probably worth watching if you're gonna watch the new one.

[Boydy]

Oh, it seems it was season 4 where she stormed off home. I think I watched a few episodes at the start of it and then got bored.

[ScousePig]

The full Dexter boxset is £25 on Amazon at the moment. Not sure if that's the going rate, but it seems a good price.

[ItalAussie]

Has anyone watched the new season of Archer? I'm planning to binge the entire thing on Sunday.

[John]

I've watched all but the final episode. It's good fun seeing the characters as sort of twisted versions of themselves, but I think it would have worked better as a four episode arc in a normal season than a season on its own. There's a sequence involving Krieger that's probably the maddest, most explosively funny thing they've ever done, but overall I think I'd only put it ahead of the Vice stuff if ranking seasons.

[SvN]

Finally watched 13 Reasons Why over the past week or so. The first episode was excellent, and I thought I was in for a real treat. By the end, I was glad to have finished it. Very "meh" overall, and all seems a bit patronising to me.

[Ian]

This season of the Flash has been largely bollocks having been steadily getting better up until late in season 2, and the finale was a lot of balls. They've managed to make Barry incredibly difficult to root for.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Indeed.

I was starting to like it more than Arrow for the first time but now there's a huge gap again.

[Ian]

And now I've finished Arrow. Could have lived without the cliffhanger ending but as usual the Arrow writers pretty much sorted their shit out for the finale. I guess it depends how they resolve it next, though. I'm also curious about the flashback stuff now.

[Alex]

After finishing the fifth season of House of Cards, I would say the first half of it was very good but the second half just becomes increasingly daft and convoluted. It's all over the fucking place by the time it wraps up.

[Reg]

That's a shame. I don't know about that season specifically, but I find it weird that so many American shows have a handful or more of different writers. It seems to my unknowledgeable self that that would lead to more chance of inconsistency and wayward storylines.

But then again some of my favourite programmes have many different writers, so er, be quiet Reg.

Anyone watched any of the new season of Flaked? Unsure whether to bother with it.

[John]

That's a shame. I don't know about that season specifically, but I find it weird that so many American shows have a handful or more of different writers. It seems to my unknowledgeable self that that would lead to more chance of inconsistency and wayward storylines.

But then again some of my favourite programmes have many different writers, so er, be quiet Reg.

Anyone watched any of the new season of Flaked? Unsure whether to bother with it.

They decide on the broad storyline of each season and episode as a group, with the 'showrunner' having the final say on all matters, then individual writers are assigned their episodes and go off to write them. Once the scripts are turned in the 'showrunner' again has the final say and can adjust anything which doesn't fit. So while the collective writing approach will lead to some episodes having a voice, for want of a better term, that you don't like as much as others they don't have the freedom to just throw in a subplot or whatever if they fancy it.

[Reg]

Ah I never knew what a showrunner did, only heard the job title. I thought the chief writer(s) would be in charge of that.

I thought it was interesting that Vince Gilligan sometimes writes the first couple of episodes and then others take over. I wonder if part of that is because he knows his later ideas/writing wouldn't match the early stuff.

[John]

Ah I never knew what a showrunner did, only heard the job title. I thought the chief writer(s) would be in charge of that.

I thought it was interesting that Vince Gilligan sometimes writes the first couple of episodes and then others take over. I wonder if part of that is because he knows his later ideas/writing wouldn't match the early stuff.

The head writer is the showrunner, in general.

[John]

Maya Rudolph has turned up for what I hope is a one episode part in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, and as always the whole thing comes to a grinding halt the moment she appears. I can't think of a single actor, past or present, as ineffective as her in ostensibly comedic moments. If she wasn't friendly with half of Hollywood and married to a director she'd have had to get a real job a long, long time ago.

[Adamski]

The 100 is utter nonsense but I just can't stop watching it. Same with Designated Survivor.

[AyDee]

Watched The Thick of It a few weeks ago. Not sure why I hadn't got round it to before, it's brilliant. Didn't like the fourth series as much, although it had it's moments, but the series as a whole is probably one of my favourite British comedies. Imagine it's got decent re-watch value so can see me watching it again at some point.

Also watched The Keepers (netflix documentary), which was good. But nothing more than good, really. The girlfriend loved it but I think they dragged it out way, way too much. So bit of a poor man's Making a Murderer but decent enough.

Catching up with Doctor Who now. First couple of episodes been poor tbh.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Watched The Thick of It a few weeks ago. Not sure why I hadn't got round it to before, it's brilliant. Didn't like the fourth series as much, although it had it's moments, but the series as a whole is probably one of my favourite British comedies. Imagine it's got decent re-watch value so can see me watching it again at some point.


I've re-watched it all a few times now. Doesn't get old.

[Alex]

I finished the original run of Twin Peaks last night. It was very good on the whole, although it does seem to lose direction after they wrap up the whole "Who killed Laura Palmer?" angle, which I understand the network made them do at the time. So it did feel like a bit of a "so.....what now?" situation for a while after that.

But it gets a lot better again towards the end. I liked the stuff with Windom Earle and the Black Lodge, even if it was all a bit vague at times. I'm glad I can jump into the new season too, because that original ending must have been infuriating at the time, thinking it was just to be left like that forever. I'm going to watch the film first and then crack on with the new episodes.

Lynch's ability to go from laugh out loud funny, to just plain odd, to outright horrifying at the drop of a hat is quite something. I wouldn't say there were too many out-and-out horror moments in it, but when they occurred they were really something.

When possessed Leland beats his niece (Maddie) to death my jaw properly dropped, I almost can't believe they got away with putting that on television. It was brutal, even by modern day standards.

[randomlegend]

The last episode of this series of Taskmaster was amazing.

The first (proper) task :D

[Bernanke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKSU82afy1w

:cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Recently started on American Gods.

Emily Browning's character is such a cunt.

[Raoul Duke]

Recently started on American Gods.

Emily Browning's character is such a cunt.

You'll change your opinion of her...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've already seen the nude screengrabs.

[Raoul Duke]

You'll have that on your tombstone

[Dark Soldier]

Season 3 of Better Call Saul was up there with the better seasons of Breaking Bad. That final episode, fucking hell.

[Reg]

I just finished it. Great television. Best season of Saul for me, too.

[wullie]

I spent the episode expecting that ending and at the same time not believing for a second it'd happen.

[Baz]

I already rate seasons one and two of Better Call Saul as better than a lot of the Breaking Bad seasons so jeez this third season sounds epic. I've cleared 1st July as a day to watch the entire season. :drool:

[Max Power]

Yeah great season. The finale and the courtroom ep from earlier up there with the best Breaking Bad hours and the season as good as any BB season.

[phonics]

American Gods. Any good or a load of wank?

[Bernanke]

American Gods. Any good or a load of wank?

Wondering as well.

[John]

The third season of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt has some wonderful throwaway wordplay. It even managed to make me laugh with one of the oldest joke formats around. 'That's like Simone Biles trying to ride a rollercoaster after the park is closed; too little too late.' It's definitely the weakest of the three seasons overall, but the throwaway gags are of vintage 30 Rock quality.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I felt like I was laughing more during the season and found it more enjoyable overall (bar Maya Rudolph killing an episode) than season 2.

One is the best overall by a wide margin.

[Raoul Duke]

American Gods. Any good or a load of wank?


Wondering as well.

I thought it was very watchable stuff. Definitely worth the time, for me.

[mo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKSU82afy1w

:cool:

Not a patch on the original.

[Cord]

American Gods. Any good or a load of wank?

It's good. They are padding the absolute bejesus out of book, but the whole thing is weird and wonderful enough to still be entertaining despite dragging its feet.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think it's great.

Not 'ZOMG THE NEXT GAME OF THRONES!!!!' like the advert states but it's seriously watchable and visually stunning.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You'll change your opinion of her...

Also, I actually have.

Not because of the nudes but I think she's a much better character undead. That cuntishness that she has works so much better being dead.

[Boydy]

I'd quite like a good sci fi tv show to watch. Someone recommend me something.

[Jimmy Floyd]

'Good sci fi' is an oxymoron.

[Alex]

I'd quite like a good sci fi tv show to watch. Someone recommend me something.

Battlestar Galactica would be the obvious recommendation, which is, mostly, amazing. But I would imagine you might have already seen that.

The Expanse is a recent one that I liked. There are two seasons out and it's a really well put together show, I think. It took me a little while to get into the world of it, but once you do there's a lot of interesting characters and well written, overlapping story arcs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just watched the first episode of GLOW, it's brilliant and not just because you get to see Alison Brie's boobs.

She's absolutely perfect in the role and they've nailed the 80s vibe.

[John]

Battlestar Galactica is the best sci-fi show ever by a wide, wide margin.

[Boydy]

Yeah, I've not seen it and I was thinking about it. Did it used to be on Netflix? I could've sworn it was.

[Alex]

It definitely used to be on Netflix, that's where I watched it. That was a few years ago though. I think they have removed it since.

Get hold of it however you can though, it's excellent. I bet you can pick up the box set for next to nothing now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just watched the first episode of GLOW, it's brilliant and not just because you get to see Alison Brie's boobs.

She's absolutely perfect in the role and they've nailed the 80s vibe.

And I'm finished.

It's up there with Master of None and Bojack for best original Netflix show.

So excited for the second season.

[Ian]

Just watched the first episode. Tone is quite different to what I expected but it has promise.

[Browning]

And I'm finished.

It's up there with Master of None and Bojack for best original Netflix show.

So excited for the second season.

Up there with Bojack? High praise indeed.

I'm 2 episodes in and I am enjoying it.

[Ian]

I've also made a start on Preacher. It's decent so far.

[Haystacks Horace]

Tracey Ullman show, what shite.

[ItalAussie]

I'd quite like a good sci fi tv show to watch. Someone recommend me something.

I really like Firefiy. Short, but great. Mostly because it didn't have time to get rubbish.

[Disco]

Battlestar Galactica is the best sci-fi show ever by a wide, wide margin.

Unless you watch it all the way until the end and realise the last half was a bit rubbish.

[Ian]

That's Glow done. Really enjoyed it. Wasn't quite what I expected but then I'd read practically nothing about it.

[Alex]

The latest episode of Twin Peaks is fucking madness of the absolute highest order. I'm not sure whether I mean that in a good or bad way either. I don't feel like I'm qualified to makes that call, even for myself.

Fair play to Lynch for getting that on television though, and to the network for giving him free rein to do it.

[Baz]

Three episodes into Better Call Saul Season 3 and the jump from 720p to 4K (from episode 2 to episode 3) has made it even better. :drool:

Such an amazing show.


Also seven episodes into season 2 of Twin Peaks. That's a bit of a slog but I'm still loving it, even though my wife hates it. I hope season 3 is out in 4K by the time I'm upto it.

[John]

I'm catching up with Better Call Saul season three now too. Two episodes in and it feels even more slow and deliberate than the most slow and deliberate sections of Breaking Bad. It's still brilliant and incredibly clever, but there comes a point where ten minutes of dialogue free, real time scheming becomes an indulgence, and they're getting close to it this year already.

I'm also becoming increasingly aware that BCS using the same 'previously on' guy as The Walking Dead annoys me far more than it should.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm catching up with Better Call Saul season three now too. Two episodes in and it feels even more slow and deliberate than the most slow and deliberate sections of Breaking Bad. It's still brilliant and incredibly clever, but there comes a point where ten minutes of dialogue free, real time scheming becomes an indulgence, and they're getting close to it this year already.

I'm also becoming increasingly aware that BCS using the same 'previously on' guy as The Walking Dead annoys me far more than it should.
So much so, they also use the same guy for Preacher.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finished this season of Better Call Saul and it's easily the best of the 3.

I really do hope that Chuck ends up dying, I can't take this bullshit 'disease' anymore. When Jimmy donned him on it I was so happy.

[Baz]

A cast member should do the 'previously on' bits, like on Sons Of Anarchy. A different one every time, no less.

[John]

Finished this season of Better Call Saul and it's easily the best of the 3.

I really do hope that Chuck ends up dying, I can't take this bullshit 'disease' anymore. When Jimmy donned him on it I was so happy.

Also finished. Wound up whizzing through six of them tonight. Mike remains the fucking man.

The problem with cheering Jimmy 'winning' that court case is that as odious and smug as Chuck is, he's absolutely right in every way about what Jimmy will do with a license to practice law.

That stuff with the old woman in the penultimate episode though, fucking hell. Given all the awful shit that's gone down between this show and Breaking Bad, it's an absolute magic trick that they've managed to make an old woman's mates not applauding her win at bingo one of the darkest moments in the whole thing. Had they shifted into an alternate timeline at that moment and Jimmy was flattened with a pinpoint meteor strike I think I'd have been okay with it.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

When you put it like that, it is rather exceptional. :D

[Yevrah]

Caught up with some tv.

Better Call Saul Season 3 - Still a very good show, but the stuff with Jimmy and his brother scales the heights of dull tedium - it must be one of the worst storylines in an otherwise good show I can recall. When Jimmy's scheming or Mike and the Salazar/Gus stuff is involved it's great tv.

Twin Peaks - Properly good and I wish I'd waited for the whole thing, I probably still should from here on in. Episode 8 was so bonkers and brilliant it's hard to describe.

[Disco]

How does Twin Peaks stand up in comparison to the originals?

[Yevrah]

How does Twin Peaks stand up in comparison to the originals?

So far, every bit as good, but they're probably about to reach a crossroads where one story arc could overstay its welcome and damage that.

[Giggles]

How does Twin Peaks stand up in comparison to the originals?

It's equally as shit.

[Disco]

Perfect.

[Alex]

So far, every bit as good, but they're probably about to reach a crossroads where one story arc could overstay its welcome and damage that.

Do you mean:

The "Dougie" angle?

Because if so, I agree. It's was a cool plot device but it's gone on a bit too long now.

The new series has been mostly brilliant though.

[Yevrah]

Yep, that was what I meant. Worked for a time and allowed another interesting character to be brought in, but time to wrap it up now.

[Ian]

Archer Dreamland is doing very little for me.

[Alex]

Yep, that was what I meant. Worked for a time and allowed another interesting character to be brought in, but time to wrap it up now.

Yeah, agree with that.

I don't think it will last much longer now. I suppose the takedown of the midget assassin was supposed to be Cooper coming to the surface (although I don't remember Coop ever displaying lightening fast, hand-to-hand combat skills at any point prior to this :D) and now that Evil Coop is, presumably, dead I imagine that might somehow facilitate his actual comeback.

The last episode feels like a sort of mid-point for the season as well, I suppose. Throw that hour of absolute madness into the middle of it and then move the story on a bit. I need Cooper back in Twin Peaks, interacting with the older characters.

What were your thoughts about episode eight, by the way? I need to rewatch it, but it was definitely something. I've very little idea about what was going on. Something to do with the origins of BOB was as close as I could get? But I could be completely off the mark. I don't know if it really matters to be honest. It was quite a spectacle regardless.

[John]

Archer Dreamland is doing very little for me.

It gets off to a fairly poor start but it does improve as it goes. Not to the standard of the better runs, but still.

One thing I never got used to was that incredibly shrill version of the theme tune.

[Disco]

I liked Dreamland, I enjoyed it more than the bits of Vice I saw. The last two episodes were particularly good.

[Magic]

Perfect.

:D

Yes.

[Haystacks Horace]

Can't wait for 'thrones.

[Bernanke]

Twin Peaks S1 done.

This is what people are creaming their pants over? Don't get me wrong, it's decent enough and has some fun characters (Cooper in particular), but I really don't get what it is about it that makes it a such cult classic.

[phonics]

It's 26 years old mate.

[Bernanke]

I get that it's a product of its time, but the vast majority of people praising it didn't watch it when it aired and weren't starved for good shows. They watched it a few months before The Sopranos or whatever, and still go "omg you have to watch Twin Peaks".

[John]

I'd quite like a good sci fi tv show to watch. Someone recommend me something.

The Expanse has turned into a pretty terrific little sci-fi show. It feels like it gets off to a slow start but it's all just world building that pays off in fairly short order, some of which is incredibly clever.

It's not Battlestar Galactica, but I imagine it'll be a little easier to get hold of if BSG is off Netflix.

[Boydy]

Cheers, John. Might give it a look.

What's with the mini-series of Battlestar Galactica that aired the year before the actual series started? Is that still part of it?

[John]

It was a sort of proof of concept/prequel. There's a particular event which kicks off the series proper, and the miniseries showed the build up to and beginning of that event.

[Magic]

Anyone been watching Broken?

[Magic]

Twin Peaks S1 done.

This is what people are creaming their pants over? Don't get me wrong, it's decent enough and has some fun characters (Cooper in particular), but I really don't get what it is about it that makes it a such cult classic.

I guess context is important, my mum loved it so I asked her. She said there was nothing remotely, remotely (!), like it out at the time. It was utterly consuming and mesmerising. So well written.

[Baz]

Finished Better Call Saul. Not a patch on the first two seasons but still pretty great.

[phonics]

If I'm going to watch Battlestar, do I need to watch the pilot to have a clue what's going on? I got the first season and it's opened with 'Previously On' and a bunch of explosions.

[Alex]

If I'm going to watch Battlestar, do I need to watch the pilot to have a clue what's going on? I got the first season and it's opened with 'Previously On' and a bunch of explosions.

You definitely do need to watch that, yes. It's basically a three hour mini-series that provides the entire premise for what's going on. It would be very confusing without watching it. Plus, it's awesome.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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4 days earlier than they originally announced :drool:

[Yevrah]

The 9th episode of Twin Peaks wasn't very good.

[Alex]

The 9th episode of Twin Peaks wasn't very good.

Yeah, I would say it was the weakest episode so far. I found myself switching off at various points, to the point where I feel like I need to rewatch it. I can't really be bothered though. What we were discussing further up the page, that really needs to happen ASAP.

[John Arne]

4 days earlier than they originally announced :drool:

I thoroughly enjoyed the first season, but I have a nagging feeling that season 2 is going to be dog turd.

Hope I'm wrong.

[Adamski]

Can someone who isn't John talk to me about The Leftovers season 2 onwards? Is it worth continuing to watch?