The Boxing Thread

[Waffdon]

Im sure there are some serious money penalties for connor doing any mma moves. if i was him, if it wasnt going well. I would kick mayweather in the leg, and hopefully its judges as a foul and not a disqualified. Floyds leg would be fucked from one kick wouldnt it? That will affect floyd for the remainder of the fight, so ive been told.

If you headbutt someone in boxing or punch someone in the dick, its judged a foul and you get a point deducted. Given connor is from a different sport. He would probably get straight disqualified as soon as he lands some mma move.

Even if he just pretends to go for a high knee or something?

[John]

The only way there's even a remote possibility of McGregor throwing a kick or whatever is if he gets badly rocked and starts fighting on instinct, and even then it's probably more likely he'd go in for a takedown, like he did with Nate.

I think the only reason it's even being talked about is that McGregor knows he's not just giving up the ability to actually kick by taking on a boxing match. In MMA his opponent has to be on the lookout for kicks, knees, takedowns, and elbows, and getting into a clinch is vastly different. That split focus is half of what lets McGregor slip his left hand in through the guard, and he's giving that up as well as fighting in bigger gloves that allow for a far more effective guard, so I think there's some mind games going on with McGregor and co introducing the idea that he might fuck up and just boot Floyd's head off.

[Disco]

Part of me would be highly amused if he just used it as an excuse to beat the shit out of Mayweather. Sod the rules and the money I'm clearly harder than him sort of thing.

[niko_cee]

That would be awesome.

As would the 400 stone of minder that landed on him moments later.

[John]

It would be absolutely wonderful. It's probably the only way everyone can lose. Mayweather gets knocked out and the record setting win has an asterisk beside it, McGregor gets shot and killed within a fortnight, and the riot in the immediate aftermath of the fight would be such that nobody would ever think of putting on this sort of circus again.

[SincereTheRebel]

The web have memes of floyd being KO'd on standby. Its probably been like that for about 8 years now. Waiting to unless them to the world.

[Magic]

It'll be a boring shitfest of defensive pap versus a slow, inexperienced clown who'll lose every round on points.

[John]

McGregor is in no way slow.

[Magic]

McGregor is in no way slow.

I watched side by side training vids. He's slow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Watch some of his actual fights.

He's not slow.

[John]

The one side by side training video I've seen was nothing but those pad routines, and you can't adequately judge a fighter's hand or head speed from those. The sports lab that had Ronaldo putting free kicks through windows tested his reflexes, hand speed, etc, and he came out top in just about every test they put him through.

[Queenslander]

The hype for this fight has been highly entertaining for the boofhead part of my brain.

[Mellberg]

I've enjoyed it. Toronto was brilliant.

[Queenslander]

They have sold me I'm definitely purchasing PPV.

[SincereTheRebel]

Couple questions for the ufc heads.

What fight should i watch of connors that show his boxing skills

in ufc, they do 5-5 minute rounds. Is connor fitter than the usual 3-12 minute rounds in boxing or is it all the same

Has connor fought a high level boxer in the ufc

Is connor really the best boxer in the ufc

Has connor got genuine punching power or is it because they wear gloves with little resistance

[Queenslander]

Start with Nate Diaz 1 and 2.

[Waffdon]

Couple questions for the ufc heads.

What fight should i watch of connors that show his boxing skills

in ufc, they do 5-5 minute rounds. Is connor fitter than the usual 3-12 minute rounds in boxing or is it all the same

Has connor fought a high level boxer in the ufc

Is connor really the best boxer in the ufc

Has connor got genuine punching power or is it because they wear gloves with little resistance


His combinations to finish Eddie Alvarez was beautiful. For genuine knockout power, go watch him sit Jose Aldo on his arse after 13 seconds.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfYpbdgx0QQ

According to someone in the comments:


2:06:55 - McGregor intro
2:11:25 - Mayweather intro
2:16:12 - Staredown 1
2:19:00 - Bryan speech
2:22:20 - Some brooklyn guy
2:24:25 - Stephen Espinoza
2:26:45 - Dana White
2:27:15 - McGregor
2:27:47 - 50 Cent's a bitch
2:29:40 - Racism
2:33:15 - Leonard Ellerbe
2:33:50 - Mayweather
2:35:20 - Tapout
2:35:50 - Make it rain
2:37:10 - A fuckable job
2:37:50 - Mayweathers bodyguards surround McGregor
2:42:48 - Final face off

[John]

Couple questions for the ufc heads.

What fight should i watch of connors that show his boxing skills

in ufc, they do 5-5 minute rounds. Is connor fitter than the usual 3-12 minute rounds in boxing or is it all the same

Has connor fought a high level boxer in the ufc

Is connor really the best boxer in the ufc

Has connor got genuine punching power or is it because they wear gloves with little resistance

His first UFC fight was probably his most impressive demolition job in pure boxing terms. There's a bit of kicking and kneeing, but most of the heavy work is him shifting in and out of range beautifully and landing some crisp uppercuts. That and the Alvarez fight are the ones to watch.

In endurance terms he's probably in the bottom half of UFC fighters, but I reckon that will put him roughly on par with your average boxer.

Nate Diaz has excellent traditional boxing, but he's adapted it to suit his fighting style in MMA so it looks seriously unorthodox, with all his 'Stockton Slap' carry on. Watch the first Diaz fight for a demonstration of the drawbacks in Connor's style against a boxer, his open guard means he's actually pretty easy to hit if you time it properly.

Nope. Alexander Gustafsson is the best boxer in the UFC.

He has incredible punching power. The gloves don't make a huge amount of difference to the amount of force your opponent will feel on the end of a punch, they're about protecting your hands.

[Henry]

That video is a shambles. They've really gone too far down the circus route.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ill watch the fights recomdned by john and waffdon

In regards to punching power. Surely floyd has faced harder punches in boxing. Corrales, mosley, canelo, maidana all punch savage.

[Waffdon]

If anything, this has just made Dana White somewhat popular for once.

[SincereTheRebel]

Just watched the London circus. This is all awful. Its like some bad wwf

I watched the two diaz fights. Connor has a nice little style but he seems to tire at times. I imagine from the punishment they take from leg and ground work also. I can see why people feel he can win. His punch game highlights are good too

[Jimmy Floyd]

I refuse to believe that this 'fight' won't be scripted.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've watched all the press conferences now.

I loved them all bar the one in New York which was just strange, primarily because of Conor's choice of clothing.

[Disco]

Eubank is having a go at least.

[Samadini]

http://buffstream.com/watch/boxing.php

Ridiculously good stream quality

[Baz]

McGregor is a lad. :cool:

[John]

Sky are apparently going to charge ninety quid for the Mayweather fight on PPV. :D

A hundred and thirty if you don't have Sky Sports.

[GS]

I was tempted to buy it, even though I know it's going to be an absolute farce. You couldn't justify £90, though.

[Baz]

That's ridiculous. Can't be true, surely? Hopefully I can get a good stream. :youpi: Will have probably resubscribed to Sports Mania by then.

[Kikó]

What a disgrace. I wish people would just shun the whole event.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was going to buy it but hahahahahahahahaha.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've never know a PPV to cost more here than the US though so it surely can't be right.

If it is though :cab:

[Disco]

That's madness, there'll be plenty of streams though, there always are.

[Ian]

£90. :D Fucking hell.

[Jimmy Floyd]

No one will buy that. You'd have to be a fucking idiot. You could buy your kid 30 meals for that.

[GS]

You do get the impression they may have overplayed their hand slightly at £90.

[Queenslander]

You fellas are being robbed apparently we are only being charged $90/£54. I'd happily pay that because Pubs aren't the most fun for big boxing or MMA PPV's.

[niko_cee]

Won't it be on at about 11 in the morning over there (I seem to recall the Hatton fight being on around that time)?

I can only assume the pricing on this is some sort of population control pre-screening.

[Queenslander]

Usually big fights are anywhere between 12 midday and 2pm. I like that time but hate all the amateur combat Sports bogans it brings out of the gutter. I've been to one of my inner city locals that is usually a hippy/feral lefty pub for McGregor v Diaz two and it was a backs to the wall affair.

[SincereTheRebel]

It cant be more than the USA price. That is usually $90-$100 I think. What was the price of the mayweather vs pacman fight in the UK. It was less than £50?

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I think it was maybe £40.

What a fucking waste of money. Imagine paying double that for a fight between a bum and an old man.

[SvN]

Mayweather v Pacquiao was only £20

[Magic]

Streaming. :cool:

[SincereTheRebel]

I dont understand why it would be so much, if those prices are correct. Floyd and pacman both walked away with over $100m each and given the numbers ive saw for the press conferences. This fight should blow the floyd/pacman fight out the way. It should do over 5m ppv in USA.

Those UK prices cant be correct. I dont like to count peoples money, but this is a complete money grab.

[phonics]

I'm shocked to hear the not-official fight between the famous semi-retired boxer and the famous MMA fighter is being described as 'a complete money grab'.

[John]

Everyone knew the fight itself was a cash grab about six months before it was even announced. He's describing Sky's supposed pricing for the PPV buy in those terms, not the fight.

Was Mayweather v Pacquiao considerably more expensive than a normal PPV? I wasn't around for it, but I've never seen a Sky PPV cost more than thirty quid, and I think only one that cost more than twenty.

[SincereTheRebel]

Google claims it was £19.95 back in 2015

http://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/32040337

[SvN]

Everyone knew the fight itself was a cash grab about six months before it was even announced. He's describing Sky's supposed pricing for the PPV buy in those terms, not the fight.

Was Mayweather v Pacquiao considerably more expensive than a normal PPV? I wasn't around for it, but I've never seen a Sky PPV cost more than thirty quid, and I think only one that cost more than twenty.


Mayweather v Pacquiao was only £20

Above

[SincereTheRebel]

How much are the usual mega mma ppv events?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No extra charge.

They're shown on BT Sport.

America gets fucked for them though, about $60 IIRC.

[SincereTheRebel]

They are really filling dana white and conor mcgregor's pockets for this one.

[niko_cee]

Aren't WWE PPVs ludicrously expensive in the States?

[phonics]

Not anymore because they serve them through their subscription service. If you're the kind of numpty that just pays for Wrestlemania then yes, they destroy you.

[John Arne]

It would be so good if the PPV absolutely bombed for this (it probably won't) - I wonder who takes the bigger hit on poor PPV - presumably it's split pretty equally between promotors, fighters and TV networks?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

$10 a month for the subscription (you also get more) or around $45 for an individual event.

Tough choice.

[SincereTheRebel]

It would be so good if the PPV absolutely bombed for this (it probably won't) - I wonder who takes the bigger hit on poor PPV - presumably it's split pretty equally between promotors, fighters and TV networks?

Its bejust the promoters and tv networks if the fighters money is guaranteed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They'll get a cut of the PPV buys too though.

[Baz]

The £130 is pub landlord prices, according to twitter.

[John]

I think the standard deal is that fighters get a cut of the American buys, with the overseas rights being sold for a single fee. The PPV doing terrible business here wouldn't affect the promoter or the fighters in any significant way, I don't think, but it would be an incantation against Sky trying to charge that sort of money for any big event in future

[niko_cee]

The £130 is pub landlord prices, according to twitter.

That seems very reasonable, although it could be because of the time it is likely to be on. I'm sure things like the Joshua fight are more like a grand for pubs (I'm sure the Fury v Klitschko fight was in that region).

[Jimmy Floyd]

Will this shite actually have any reach beyond internet fanboy 'Who would win a fight between a shark and a komodo dragon?' type arguments?

[Ian]

At least sharks and komodo dragons are interesting.

[Magic]

Sorry are there about a thousand press conference around the world or something? Each day there's a different venue bit the same trash talk. People seem to love it as well. :D

[SincereTheRebel]

They went to canada, USA and England for their press tours. There were only three but chopping and cutting each tour and posting seperate videos online will take us into next year

[Spikey M]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2722043-jessie-vargas-says-conor-mcgregor-was-kod-during-sparring-for-floyd-mayweather

Lol

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They went to canada, USA and England for their press tours. There were only three but chopping and cutting each tour and posting seperate videos online will take us into next year

4.

LA, New York, Toronto and London.

The New York one was strange.

Conor came out wearing this:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/nintchdbpict0003386619411.jpg?strip=all&w=739&quality=100

Claiming that it was polar bear fur.

He did claim that 50 Cent was a bitch though which was quite fun.

[Kikó]

Can we keep this thread on topic and talk about boxing?

[phonics]

Sorry are there about a thousand press conference around the world or something? Each day there's a different venue bit the same trash talk. People seem to love it as well. :D

I figured it was in the next week or two and then my flat mate told me it was August 25th. I laughed.

[SincereTheRebel]

Can we keep this thread on topic and talk about boxing?

May/Mc is going to suck the life out of all boxing and mma events up until september

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40746053

[SincereTheRebel]

Bargain

[Kikó]

Places like stubhub are a disgrace.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10969023/mayweather-vs-mcgregor-sky-sports-box-office-to-show-floyd-mayweathers-las-vegas-fight-with-conor-mcgregor

£19.95, I'll be ordering it.

[Baz]

Me too. I was gonna either stream it illegally or download it in the morning, but for £20 I may as well guarantee it's watchable and make a night of it. I've a first birthday party the day after it too; I'm gonna be a sleepy godfather that's for sure.

[Kikó]

It makes me sad that you would pay for such a circus.

[SincereTheRebel]

We live in a world of pure fuckris. Entertainment at its finest. It should be completely non-competitive but in order for this to sell and it will. Conor has to convince us he can win, and floyd has to convince us he could lose which both have done effectively well. You can have a fight party around this event.

[Spammer]

It's pretty much universally accepted that Mayweather is going to walk this, isn't it?

[SincereTheRebel]

He should although the fact he is 40 now and been away from the sport for two years is the only asterisk on this. He could blow out his knee or twist an ankle in david haye fashion.

[Offshore Toon]

No matter who wins there'll be somebody to lol at, which is really all that matters.

[Spikey M]

Yeah lol at the multimillionaires.

[Offshore Toon]

There's quite clearly a lot at stake for both of them. You don't get that rich and successful without becoming an arrogant twat that cares about pride and reputation.

[Spikey M]

I will continue aiming my lolling at anyone paying for this shitshow.

[SincereTheRebel]

Its like some unscripted WWE event this is.

[Offshore Toon]

I will continue aiming my lolling at anyone paying for this shitshow.
I'd never pay for it tbf.

[Disco]

Exactly, I'll find a stream for the actual fight. If there aren't any then it's no great loss.

[Baz]

Exactly, I'll find a stream for the actual fight. If there aren't any then it's no great loss.You can watch it at mine if you like.

[Offshore Toon]

As if he won't be eating pork scratchings and watching Roy 'Chubby' Brown.

[Disco]

Saturday night is normally Jim Davidson night at chez Disco.

[Kikó]

Vitali has retired. Fantastic but dull champion.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.skysports.com/more-sports/news/12183/10970618/mayweather-vs-mcgregor-floyd-mayweather-happy-to-use-8oz-gloves-for-epic-event

Don't believe what you hear in the media. Don't believe what you hear on blog sites. If it's not coming directly from me, then it's not true. I'm telling McGregor, "Let's fight in 8 oz gloves". McGregor can fight in any brand he prefers or chooses. I'll be wearing 8 oz Grant gloves. Whatever advantage McGregor needs to feel more comfortable in the ring, I'm willing to accommodate. Let's give the boxing and MMA fans what they want to see.

The athletic commission will deny the request though, Floyd knows what he's doing.

[Baz]

$300M for 36 minutes work.

Neymar eat your heart out.

[Kikó]

Amir Khan's twitter seems to be suggesting AJ is now banging his ex wife.

[phonics]

She seems to be made out of 80% snapchat filter

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/702002022074023936/14ifoeYn.jpg

[Kikó]

She's hideous.

[SincereTheRebel]

Looks like a transformer.

[John]

Lomachenko is fighting live on Boxnation tonight. That one snuck up on me.

[SincereTheRebel]

He is giving a title shot to a guy coming off a lose and fighting in a new weight class. Its a stay-busy fight for loma

[John]

Still worth watching though. He's great fun.

[SincereTheRebel]

Yeah he is amazing to watch. He reminds me of a young roy jones and pretty boy floyd. Althoughy i feel he has better skill moves than them both. He has other fights above and below his weight class gunning for him though in m.garcia and rigo. Those are the fights that could bring some challenge to him.

[SincereTheRebel]

Its also been a week of retirements with wlad, juan manuel marquez and tim bradley all calling it quits.

[Henry]

Turns out the guy who sparred with McGregor and sounded off about it was full of shit. Video doing the rounds.

McGregor did knock him down, it wasn't a bad-tempered push.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was clearly going to be the case.

'Paulie' is a massive dick who wants to be relevant.

[niko_cee]

Surely this is going to be the most fixed fight in history.

They may as well agree the rematch now.

[Kikó]

He can knock down an unfit Malinaggi. It's on.

[John Arne]

It's still kinda looks like he fell backwards. It's a knockdown, but not one to start tweeting about.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't know why the 'McGregor camp' chose Malinaggi tbh.

Yeah he's experienced but he's almost as immobile as me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His Twitter is amazing, he's been on full on seethe mode for about 22 hours.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.skysports.com/mayweather-vs-mcgregor/news/35588/10991424/1

8oz gloves approved.

[Lewis]

I saw Dana White giving it 'IT ONLY TAKES ONE PUNCH' the other day, as if people like Saul Alvarez (and for that matter the other forty-eight people who never touched him) can't punch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dana is always spouting shit.

[John]

I saw Dana White giving it 'IT ONLY TAKES ONE PUNCH' the other day, as if people like Saul Alvarez (and for that matter the other forty-eight people who never touched him) can't punch.

You can basically take those comments as him admitting that McGregor has a puncher's chance and nothing more. He does his best to hype his man, but he started out as a boxing 'agent' and used to run a boxing gym, so he knows the game and can't honestly believe McGregor is going to box Mayweather and win. You can see in all his talk about McGregor hitting like a train and being unorthodox that he's just talking his way round admitting it.

[Lewis]

I can't remember whether it was him or Joe Rogan (possibly both) who was spinning his lack of boxing experience and 'unorthodox' style. Why not just breakdance him to death?

[John]

Everyone is spinning that line. Dana White had a decent take on it when he said that Mayweather is so good at not getting hit partly because he just understands the rhythms of boxing so well. If they've just thrown a left jab, chances are a right cross is coming next, etc. McGregor doesn't have the same formal boxing training so he won't conform to those rhythms as closely as someone with forty pro fights would, making him a puzzle to be solved. I'd agree with that to an extent, but he's a puzzle in the same way that a jigsaw for ages 8-11 is, and Mayweather will have him sussed out in half a round.

[SincereTheRebel]

There are so many aspects to boxing that conor probably has no ide how to combat. Correct me if im wrong but in mma, inside fighting or fighting in the pocket does not exist. All this talk about Conor being bigger and stronger, when they get close together conor is just going to over-power Floyd. That is probably not going to happen as people exspect. I would like conor when they get close to throw him to the ground, but floyd hass huge advanatage when they get close in ny opinion.

[Offshore Toon]

Will lighter gloves really make a difference? I thought they weren't going to be approved, Mahow?

[Spikey M]

Not really. You could do it bare knuckle, you've still got to land a punch for it to make a difference.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Will lighter gloves really make a difference? I thought they weren't going to be approved, Mahow?

It helps both really.

Conor will be able to put a bit more power into his punches and on the other hand Floyd will like the slightly increased hand speed.

As Spikey says though, Conor needs to actually land some punches though.

[John]

Correct me if im wrong but in mma, inside fighting or fighting in the pocket does not exist.

It does exist but not to the same extent. In MMA when two fighters get close enough to fight the way boxers do when they're almost leaning on eachother it tends to result in a clinch or one fighter trying to push the other to the fence.

I think McGregor might give up a point if necessary, try to clinch and just trip or throw Floyd early, in an effort to get in his head.

[SincereTheRebel]

It does exist but not to the same extent. In MMA when two fighters get close enough to fight the way boxers do when they're almost leaning on eachother it tends to result in a clinch or one fighter trying to push the other to the fence.

I think McGregor might give up a point if necessary, try to clinch and just trip or throw Floyd early, in an effort to get in his head.

He should kick floyd in the leg and take the foul. Although im sure the penalties will be extremely harsh. He isnt going to get any warnings, it will be a straight dq.

[John]

Apparently it's in the contract that if he kicks or knees in any way he forfeits his purse. I'd imagine he could get away with it if he gets badly rocked and starts fighting on instinct or something, but he isn't going to come out in round one and start throwing leg kicks. He'll throw him for two reasons, to make it clear that he's physically stronger, and so that Floyd is looking up at him as early as possible.

[SincereTheRebel]

Pushing isnt that harsh of a foul, he could maybe just wrestle him and throw him to the ground if they get into clinching scenarios.

[John]

I don't think it'll be a push, as such. I think he'll go as close as he can to a judo toss to really make it clear that he's the stronger man.

[SincereTheRebel]

Yeah, thats the word im looking for. Judo toss.

I dont feel the strength advantage is all that great though. Its not going to be as one-sided as most people feel it will be.

[Baz]

I'm expecting a full-distance boreathon with an inevitable may weather decision after he frustrates mcgregor for the entire fight. I really hope I'm wrong though.

[John]

Yeah, thats the word im looking for. Judo toss.

I dont feel the strength advantage is all that great though. Its not going to be as one-sided as most people feel it will be.

In a grappling situation the strength difference will be huge.

[Spikey M]

It's a shame the entourage would all pile in if he really went to town on him.

[McAvennie]

I'm expecting a full-distance boreathon with an inevitable may weather decision after he frustrates mcgregor for the entire fight. I really hope I'm wrong though.

I fear exactly the same

[SincereTheRebel]

You can get that at 3/1.

[Yevrah]

I don't know much, if anything, about boxing, but the odds on McGregor winning and the odds above for it going the distance strike me as absolutely rubbish. Shouldn't Mayweather be about 1/100? What gives?

[Disco]

It's odds, not the actual chance of it happening. Or to put it another way, loads of twats are betting on McGregor.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You can get McGregor at 100/1 as a special price on Betvictor, £1 max for new customers only though.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Surely the outcome is predetermined anyway (i.e. McGregor will do a lot better than expected).

[SincereTheRebel]

He will do a lot better, given he is an active fighter and floyd is on a two year lay-off and is damm near 40.

[Spikey M]

Is a 2 year lay off that big a deal considering he only boxed once every 18 months or so anyway? It's not as if he's let himself go.

[SincereTheRebel]

He hasn't fought once every 18 months since 2010/2012. Since the end of 2012, he fought every 6 months up until 2015. It will affect him. People giving floyd too much credit like time off and age will not affect him.

[Kikó]

There's that.

But there is also the fact that HE'S [McGregor's] NOT A FUCKING BOXER.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNXtqNNB77g

Ok?

[John]

That's being released as a charity single and McGregor is flying the lad out to Vegas for the fight, so he's done well out of it.

[Baz]

Love it.

[SincereTheRebel]

It really bugs me how the stars always seem to align for floyd. Here we have the most popular person from another sport, around the same weight class so they can make the fight

Floyd is good at stealing and capitalising on other fighters sucsesss. When there is light shining on you, here comes floyd offering to fight. You can go back 10 floyd opponents and they all come off arguably the best victories of their career up to that point.

[Offshore Toon]

Surely defeating somebody isn't stealing their success?

[SincereTheRebel]

Yes it is. He always seems to strike when your hot. When its all eyes on you, he pops up and offers a fight. Its actually a really good statergy he has developed.

[McAvennie]

Yes it is. He always seems to strike when your hot. When its all eyes on you, he pops up and offers a fight. Its actually a really good statergy he has developed.

What's he supposed to do? Take on people that have just lost to someone lower ranked than he is?

Although this fight is just a money-grab by both sides, but who can blame them?

[Kikó]

Yeah it's a strange stick to beat him with. If anything, Mayweather chose not to fight someone like Pacquiao unti he was sure he wouldn't lose. Mayweather wants to maximise the money he makes, McGregor is the same.

No one really wants to be hit in the head longer than they need to.

[SincereTheRebel]

What's he supposed to do? Take on people that have just lost to someone lower ranked than he is?

Although this fight is just a money-grab by both sides, but who can blame them?

What im saying is, even conor being from a different sport is around the same weight class as him. Everything just lines up perfect for him, all the time.


Yeah it's a strange stick to beat him with. If anything, Mayweather chose not to fight someone like Pacquiao unti he was sure he wouldn't lose. Mayweather wants to maximise the money he makes, McGregor is the same.

No one really wants to be hit in the head longer than they need to.

In boxing, i think mayweather figured out that when a boxer looks the best he has in years, is the perfect time to fight them.

[SincereTheRebel]

I know lines changed but i wasnt expecting the conor odds to be that bad. Currently @3.5. Thats madness.

[Offshore Toon]

Where's the value for Mayweather then? I'm not about to stick £200 on 1.25 odds.

[SincereTheRebel]

Floyd and the decesion. Dont beleive the hype. No one getting stopped.

[Offshore Toon]

3.75 is actually pretty good. Definitely worth twenty quid.

[SincereTheRebel]

Im happy this is now the final week. Im tired of people telling me "if this was a street fight or in a cage" it wouldnt last 20 seconds. Yes we know this, the reason its not in the octogan is because its not competitive and there would be less interest and money for everyone involved. It would be extremely difficulty to convince people floyd has a chance in the cage.

[niko_cee]

Boxing can send big bad Tyson to fight whoever the cage folk want in one of their octagons. Good luck to them.

[John]

Tony Bellew supposedly wants to fight Michael Bisping in the cage, which would be fun.

If McGregor wins this it'll mean a huge, huge boost in revenue for the UFC, and I could see them trying to lure a few boxers in with big paydays. Andre Ward was a wrestling champion in his youth and Lomachenko used to win judo tournaments, so presumably those two would be high on the list.

[John]

Boxing can send big bad Tyson to fight whoever the cage folk want in one of their octagons. Good luck to them.

The UFC had Tyson Fury fifteen years ago, only he was called Tim Sylvia then.

[SincereTheRebel]

I can see boxers being lured to the UFC but as you mentioned, the contracts would need to be very lucrative. High level Boxers already earn more than the high lebel ufc guys, but conor winning this may change things.

Boxing is where they will always cut the biggest cheques. There would need to be a power shift for that to change.

[GS]

He's not going to win, unless something MEGA happens.

[Queenslander]

Surely smaller 8 ounce gloves is going to give Connor a massive advantage?

[SincereTheRebel]

Floyd has 40+ fights in 8 oz gloves. Difference between 8 oz and 10 oz is minor. It will make little difference.

[GS]

That assumes he's able to land a few punches, which he almost certainly won't given Mayweather's defensive capability.

[Kikó]

His inability to box at the level of a professional boxer may count against him.

[niko_cee]

His inability to box at the level of a professional boxer may count against him.

But he's never seen a fighter like him!

Next up, a house cat.

[Queenslander]

Im not doubting Mayweather at all. I just mean now with smaller gloves that one that will land is far more likely to hurt him.

[Kikó]

Anthony Joshua v Stone cold Steve Austin.

[Ian]

Butterbean already sorted out the boxing vs. pro wrestling thing when he smashed Bart Gunn's face in.

[SincereTheRebel]

Its like freddy vs jason.

[Queenslander]

Floyd has 40+ fights in 8 oz gloves. Difference between 8 oz and 10 oz is minor. It will make little difference.

I need to stop listening to MMA podcasts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

All bar 3 of his fights were in 8oz gloves apparently.

For Conor he enjoys the potential extra power he will get, for Floyd it's the boosted hand speed in wearing slightly lighter gloves.

If it was 6 or even 4 then it would favour McGregor a lot more.

[Kikó]

Or if he had pistols.

[SincereTheRebel]

I need to stop listening to MMA podcasts.

Now the difference between mma gloves and boxing globes. Ive been told there is a difference that is noticable.

[Baz]

Come on now, Mcagregor has absolutely no chance of winning. You can even bet on him failing to land a single head shot on Mayweather. :D

However, the majority will be rooting for McGregor (myself included) and it would be amazing if he somehow managed it, especially with a KO. Although he's promised to knock him out in the first, second and fourth rounds, and that's just in the interviews I've seen.

[Spikey M]

I heard the other day that Charles Bronson once fought - and beat - a Pitbull in 'bear knuckles boxing' and it reminded me quite strongly of this. Of course, had the dog been allowed 2oz gloves it would have had a chance.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive looked for the best betting options for myself

@3.75 - mayweather to win a decision
@51 - Either Fighter to be Examined by the Doctor (Paddypower) I think this is now mandatory in title fights in boxing, but not in non-title fights. Good value here

Other options that are interesting
@7 Conor to lose and retire after the fight (Ladbrokes)
@8 Conor to fight paulie malignaggi next (Ladbrokes)
@49 Conor to win (Betsafe new customer offer £1 max bet)

[Baz]

Ive looked for the best betting options for myself

@3.75 - mayweather to win a decision
@51 - Either Fighter to be Examined by the Doctor (Paddypower) I think this is now mandatory in title fights in boxing, but not in non-title fights. Good value here

Other options that are interesting
@7 Conor to lose and retire after the fight (Ladbrokes)
@8 Conor to fight paulie malignaggi next (Ladbrokes)
@49 Conor to win (Betsafe new customer offer £1 max bet)BetVictor were doing 100/1 new customer £1 max for mcgregor to win. Not sure if it's still available.

[SincereTheRebel]

Weigh in
153 - Conor
149 - Floyd

https://youtu.be/VWgl-wagdCs

[Waffdon]

McGregor is life

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Martyn Waugh: I can see McGregor outboxing Mayweather. Mayweather isn't nearly as skilled as McGregor when it comes to pure boxing. I think McGregor will pick him apart with his famous jab and win on the scorecards unanimously.

lol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They actually edited it too as he said McGregor would make British boxing proud.

[Giggles]

I've no exact idea what's going on with this whole shit show, presumably it's like some WWE crap to sell tickets, but it's nice that the roads will be quiet on Sunday morning after all the mongs stay up past their bedtime, and hopefully McGregor has his face caved in.

[Lewis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2k5d2coiU

Look at him loving it. He looks like the school pleb during that week the 'popular' wankers patronise and subtly bully him.

[GS]

What time is it supposed to start?

[Samadini]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2k5d2coiU

Look at him loving it. He looks like the school pleb during that week the 'popular' wankers patronise and subtly bully him.

That is so accurate :D

It's actually a bit sad to watch.

Around 5 I think, GS.

[Offshore Toon]

My sleeping schedule is 10pm-6am at the moment so I might just go to bed early and see if I fancy it when the alarm goes off at 4am.

[John Arne]

11am for me, on normal TV. Perfect timing to enjoy a full English and watch this circus.

[GS]

What are the options if one wanted to see it without contributing to the circus?

[John Arne]

As with most of these things, they'll be lots of streams available. Check Reddit and Twitter prior to the fight.

[Disco]

I'll be streaming it if I manage to get up,

[Kikó]

Getting up for this seems self defeating. Someone post the link to the highlights in here tomorrow.

Canelo - GGG is the big fight soon.

[SincereTheRebel]

I would have thought the 50-0 agenda would have been pushed way more than it is.

[SincereTheRebel]

Getting up for this seems self defeating. Someone post the link to the highlights in here tomorrow.

Canelo - GGG is the big fight soon.


https://youtu.be/z4saEasf6qU

[Henry]

I don't get how McGregor can gain over a stone of weight inside a day. Or how being so dehydrated close to the fight won't hurt his performance.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think I might try to wake up for it.

[Pepe]

I don't get how McGregor can gain over a stone of weight inside a day. Or how being so dehydrated close to the fight won't hurt his performance.

Not follow boxing, do you?

[Giggles]

Is this actual boxing or some weird hybrid thing?

[John Arne]

Hybrid. They'll be wearing gloves on their feet, too.

[Waffdon]

Getting up for this seems self defeating. Someone post the link to the highlights in here tomorrow.

Canelo - GGG is the big fight soon.


Ohhhhh, hipster.

[Baz]

Alarm set for 4. See you in a few hours boys.

[GS]

If anyone gets a viable link, could they possibly fire it over by PM?

[Magic]

Lol at GS feigning interest in 'the circus' but staying up until 4am and feverishly scavenging around for links.

[GS]

I don't want to pay for it, but I'm now sufficiently interested in the spectacle to be prepared to turn the laptop on for half an hour.

Part of this is that if the IMPOSSIBLE happens you'd be seething not to see it. Inevitably, it'll be drab as fuck for twelve rounds and Mayweather will win by eleven rounds to one.

[Magic]

I'd probably stream it too but not at that time. Fuck that.

[GS]

It's a bit annoying, but I'll just go to sleep again afterwards.

[Boydy]

If anyone gets a viable link, could they possibly fire it over by PM?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BoxingStreams/comments/6w8euz/main_thread_mayweather_vs_mcgregor/

Should be something there closer to the time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tried to sleep but I have sunburn itch which is preventing me.

I have the following on:

£10 on Mayweather to win on points @ 4.33
£10 on McGregor to win @ 5.5
£10 on McGregor to win by KO @ 9
£10 on McGregor to win any round on 2 scorecards @ 1.8
£5 on McGregor to win in round 2 @ 23.

'Mon Mystic Mac.

[7om]

Ringside seats going for $15,000+ on StubHub :drool:

Hope we get some close-ups of the audience when it's over in 90 seconds.

[SincereTheRebel]

I would like to see conor be a nasty somewhat dirty cunt who tries to un rattle floyd. Faint fake kicks and all, yelling at at him, Beating his chest. Doing all kinds of wild unothardox moves. Show patience and not rush his work. Once he gets an opening, take it.

What i think will happen is going ro come out like a raging bull for the firdt round and floyd will punch and move and block punches across 12 rounds. He isnt standing toe to toe with conor. I feel he will become fustrated by not being able to land as often as he would like.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cleverly is awful.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gervonta Davis should be docked about 10 points and half his purse for those shorts.

[Baz]

Gervonta Davis should be docked about 10 points and half his purse for those shorts.:D

If Conor wins, especially in the sixth round, we party.

How are streams going? Feels good to have actually paid for it for the first time in my life, no worrying about the stream going off.

[7om]

The couple of streams I've tried have been choppy. I can't find one that stays stable for too long.

[John Arne]

Floyd to win first round. Punches to the body.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I bought a stream (from Box Office) and using a VPN to access it.

Streams will be attacked when it starts.

Gervonta Davis is such a dick, he's fucking constantly showboating in this round.

[Disco]

Is this Mauro on commentary?

[Mike]

It is on the USA broadcast. Yeah.

[GS]

Given I'm now awake, and will end up staying awake, I caved and paid the £19.95 to Sky Box Office.

At least the stream isn't going to cave in and I can watch it properly, but by fuck am I going to SEETHE if it's over in two rounds. I've also contributed to the circus, so more fool me.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a massive cunt.

[Shindig]

Alright, what is actually happening? I'm awake for this and it's not even on yet. Have they completely wanked this?

EDIT: They're holding this up to chase some buy record? You fucking carnies.

[GS]

It's still the undercard.

This guy being interviewed is thick as shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He sounds punch drunk.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Alright, what is actually happening? I'm awake for this and it's not even on yet. Have they completely wanked this?

EDIT: They're holding this up to chase some buy record? You fucking carnies.
I've heard that the PPV was going down in some places.

[Shindig]

And they might not make enough ticket sales to guarantee the payout to McGregor and Mayweather. Excellent. This match will kill this sport.

[Baz]

It's annoying they can't show any video clips of McGregor fighting cos they don't have the rights.

EDIT: presume they somehow paid for the Aldo clip considering that's all they show.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And they might not make enough ticket sales to guarantee the payout to McGregor and Mayweather. Excellent. This match will kill this sport.

They priced the tickets far too highly.

[Baz]

McGregor looks weird in boxing gloves.

[Waffdon]

Link.............?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dan Hardy looks like the odd man out there.

He's not talking and no one there is even acknowledging him :D

[Baz]

Link.............?I'm surprised you've made it. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Demi Lovato is fucking stringing this out.

[GS]

The butchering of national anthems has become an almost expected prelude to sporting events now. They can't just fucking sing them.

[John Arne]

I wonder whether Mayweather paid the announcer to butcher his McGregor pronunciation.

Connor McGreeegor.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love his McMahon-lite strut.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Floyd knocked off a bank and forgot to take all his gear off?

[John Arne]

Is there a reason the ref just starred completely at McGregor when giving the instructions?

[John Arne]

McGregor looks so amateur in his stance. Fair play with that uppercut though.

[Baz]

Is there a reason the ref just starred completely at McGregor when giving the instructions?

He definitely expects Conor to break the rules. Was never an illegal shot he warned him for.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Conor has looked good but might be a touch tired.

[John Arne]

McGregor starting to look tired. Mayweayher to finish him shortly....

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mayweather kicked it up a gear.

[John Arne]

Yeah, McGregor punches seem very light now. Surprised to see that he is so tired already.

[Baz]

Not looking good.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Balls.

Clinches got a touch dirtier in that round too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Mayweather looks like he'd love to get a KO, he fired in some big punches which hasn't been his style in the last few years of his career.

[John Arne]

This is starting to get a bit bum fighter territory.

Mayweayher is turning the screw, though.

[Baz]

This is starting to get a bit bum fighter territory.

Mayweayher is turning the screw, though.Yeah. Not good.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Can't see Conor holding on :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fair play to Mayweather, really didn't see him stopping Conor.

:(

[Baz]

Gave it a go. Back to UFC to win another belt, or have another boxing match get his arse shown by Paulie? :dirk:

[John Arne]

Yeah, McGregor did better than I expected. Mayweather wasn't particularly brilliant - but was good enough to basically control the fight. Can we move on now?

[John Arne]

I know this was his first fight at this distance - but I was still surprised by Mcgregor (lack of) conditioning. The Diaz fight, and this one - he was shot by round 4.

[GS]

Ludicrously one-sided after the early couple of rounds. Then again, it's the best of his generation against a novice so entirely expected.