Celebs who are now dead

[mo]

My need to correct people on the internet was far too compelling. :sorry:

[niko_cee]

:D

You have to admit, it's quite a funny little exchange.

[Spikey M]

I had just got in from the pub when I posted last night and I had completely forgotten about this, so he's now inflicted this knowledge on me twice. Utter, utter bastard.

[John Arne]

Bunga-bunga's very own Silvio Berlusconi.

[Spikey M]

RIP to the toppest top shagger.

[Dark Soldier]

Cormac McCarthy, wrote the best book of all time. Insane talent.

[Ian]

Assuming it's not the one you're talking about: he also wrote Blood Meridian, the worst thing I've ever read.

Man had range.

[Dark Soldier]

It is the one and it is the best. You're welcome. Did it need more dragons in it?

[Offshore Toon]

I've just bought Blood Meridian based off the anti-dragon sentiment.

[Ian]

I'd have taken a half-decent story or at least one that didn't need all the punctuation removed to be notable.

[Spikey M]

Just read an excerpt and I am very much team Ian.

[Dark Soldier]

Absolute flanges up in here. Disgusting behaviour.

[-james-]

I bought a copy of Blood Meridian (to be read some time in 2046) just last week. Call me Igor.

[Spikey M]

"They had struck the shoes from their horses and filled the nailholes in with clay and those who still had tobacco used their pouches to spit in and they slept in caves and on bare stone"

Jesus. Come up for air lad. 300+ pages of that? Nah.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's a bit miserable/bleak for me but I appreciate the craft nonetheless. Read BM and The Road.

[CJay]

Assuming it's not the one you're talking about: he also wrote Blood Meridian, the worst thing I've ever read.

Man had range.

I also thought Blood Meridian was awful. Just page after page of bloody violence.

What would I go to next? I really enjoyed The Road, despite his awful way of writing dialogue.

[Dark Soldier]

The Border Trilogy. Or Child of God if you want his bleakest work.

[Boydy]

I tried and gave up on Blood Meridian years ago so +1 for the hate there.

I did finish The Road but I didn't like it. I just don't like his writing style, I think. Like CJ said, the dialogue really grated on me.

[Dark Soldier]

No writer has a better way with language but I can see how his style grates. It genuinely blows me away, unmatched.

"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." Is still the best line. Sums up the entire Judge character in one go.

[Boydy]

Yeah, I'd never deny he's a great writer. I just can't get on with his style.

[randomlegend]

"They had struck the shoes from their horses and filled the nailholes in with clay and those who still had tobacco used their pouches to spit in and they slept in caves and on bare stone"

Jesus. Come up for air lad. 300+ pages of that? Nah.

This is how 9 year olds write.

[Dark Soldier]

This is how 9 year olds write.


Fucking fuck me. Absolute batshit mental.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They had struck the shoes from their horses and filled the nailholes in with clay and those who still had tobacco used their pouches to spit in and they slept in caves and on bare stone

OR

They had struck the shoes from their horses. They had filled the nailholes in with clay, and those who still had tobacco used their pouches to spit in. They slept in caves, and on bare stone.

--

Both are legitimate uses of English and I would say the first one achieves a very different and more immediate atmosphere than the second. In fact, in the second one I'm running out of patience for all the things that 'They' are doing.

[Spikey M]

I think this is a literary version of James in the Music thread.

[randomlegend]

And and and and and and and.

[Offshore Toon]

RL has serious intellectual insecurity.

[randomlegend]

*superiority

[-james-]

I think this is a literary version of James in the Music thread.

It is not to my taste therefore it's shit. Anyone who likes the thing I don't like is a weirdo try hard. Solid material.

[Dave.]

I got into Cormac McCarthy's works after watching No Country For Old Men, which is one of my favourite films. I've now read all his books and really enjoyed them. His style is quite different to most other authors in my collection so it made for a nice change.

[Offshore Toon]

I got into Cormac McCarthy's works after watching No Country For Old Men which is one of my favourite films and I've now read all his books and really enjoyed them and his style is quite different to most other authors in my collection so it made for a nice change.

[Boydy]

Some of you are idiots.

[Dave.]

I got into Cormac McCarthy's works after watching No Country For Old Men which is one of my favourite films and I've now read all his books and really enjoyed them and his style is quite different to most other authors in my collection so it made for a nice change.

This is genius.:D

[randomlegend]

I've just been reading a load more passages and can't help the feeling this is some elaborate joke. He's so shit.

[Serj]

Blood Meridian is magnificent. So is Suttree, but for different reasons; it's much more approachable and human. True, it's a bit of a culture shock in terms of style and the books often move at a very slow pace, but once you get used to the lack of punctuation I feel there's hardly anyone who compares in terms of atmosphere and turn of phrase.

[Dark Soldier]

I've just been reading a load more passages and can't help the feeling this is some elaborate joke. He's so shit.

Please, please give an example of top tier fiction writing.

[Bernanke]

Please, please give an example of top tier fiction writing.

José Saramago. :baz:


Perhaps he's resting in the peace of his home with his wife and his children, if he has any, perhaps, as he was the other day, he is busy at a film shoot, perhaps there is no one in the apartment, the children because they have gone to spend the holidays with their grandparents, the mother because, like so many others, she has a job to go to, either to safeguard a position of real or imagined personal independence or because the household finances cannot survive without her material contribution, for the fact is that, however quickly a supporting actor scurries from small role to small role, however often he is selected by the production company that uses him now on a more or less tacitly exclusive basis, the money he can earn will always be subordinated to the rigors of the law of supply and demand, which is never based on the objective needs of the subject but purely on the latter's real or imagined talents and abilities, those that it favors him with recognizing or those that, with unknown and usually negative intent, are attributed to him, forgetting that he might have other, less visible talents and abilities that might be worth putting to the test.

[Alex]

No writer has a better way with language but I can see how his style grates. It genuinely blows me away, unmatched.

"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent." Is still the best line. Sums up the entire Judge character in one go.

I maintain the best final paragraph to any book ever written. "He never sleeps. He says that he will never die". Etc. I found it equal parts terrifying and awe inspiring the first time I read it. The Judge is one of the most perfectly written antagonists ever.

The whole book is a perfectly bleak and beautiful treatise on the violent nature of man, it's the ultimate Revisionist Western. Awful, violent men doing awful, violent things because they can. Because (or so Cormac would put forward the notion) it is what we are almost pre-disposed to do.

Not a easy or always pleasant read by any means. I can see why it's not for everyone. Anyone dismissing it because he doesn't always use punctuation "correctly" needs to have a word with themselves though. There is more than one, pre-disposed way to use the English language.

[Dark Soldier]

Bernanke - yup top tier. Has some punctuation so RL gonna be a pig in shit.

[Alex]

This is how 9 year olds write.

It's subjective, isn't it. I get that. Because I would disagree. And I would counter that this is how a 9 year old critiques literature.

[Offshore Toon]

Can a 9 year old bench 120kg with no training?

[randomlegend]

Long run-on and and and sentences with adjectives which look like they were picked out from a thesaurus is literally how children write.

Maybe he tells amazing stories; I'd have to read a full book to tell you. But the writing style is gash and the fact half the people here who are coming out in his defence are having to qualify it with 'once you get used to the writing style' says it all.

If a book tells an amazing story but is horrible to read, then the person who wrote it is a teller of great stories but not a great writer. It's like providing someone with an incredible tasting plate of food but telling them they have to eat it through a straw; ultimately it will still taste incredible but it won't be an enjoyable experience to eat it.

[Dark Soldier]

The lack of punctuation, especially in the sprawling dense, multi-page paragraphs flows the narrative beautifully. He goes short and precise when it is required but the Commanche attack scene in Blood Meridian, with the scalping and rapid escalation from peace, to terror, to outright chaos reads as the scene should play. Breathless, relentless.

Its a wall of brutal prose designed to drag you in and grip you tight as violence erupts. Split it in to several paragraphs, precise punctuation. Letting the reader breathe, take a minute, digest - a bsolutely fucking ruins it. Its why most horror, in prose, doesn't work. It lets you step away.

Its a stylistic choice and to say it doesn't work for you, grand. To dismiss it as the level of a nine year old is, frankly, fucking idiotic.

"Oh my god, said the sergeant.

A rattling drove of arrows passed through the company and men tottered and dropped from their mounts. Horses were rearing and plunging and the mongol hordes swung up along their flanks and turned and rode full upon them with lances.

The company was now come to a halt and the first shots were fired and the gray riflesmoke rolled through the dust as the lancers breached their ranks. The kid's horse sank beneath him with a long pneumatic sigh. He had already fired his rifle and now he sat on the ground and fumbled with his shotpouch. A man near him sat with an arrow hanging out of his neck. He was bent slightly as if in prayer. The kid would have reached for the bloody hoop-iron point but then he saw that the man wore another arrow in his breast to the fletching an he was dead. Everywhere there were horses down and men scrambling and he saw a man who sat charging his rifle while blood ran from his ears and he saw men with their revolvers disassembled trying to fit the spare loaded cylinders they carried and he saw men kneeling who tilted and clasped their shadows on the ground and he saw men lanced and caught up by the hair and scalped standing and he saw horses of war trample down the fallen and a little whitefaced pony with one clouded eye leaned out of the murk and snapped at him like a dog and was gone. Among the wounded some seemed dumb and without understanding and some were pale through the masks of dust and some had fouled themselves or tottered brokenly onto the spears of the savages. Now driving in a wild frieze of headlong horses with eyes walled and teeth cropped and naked riders with clusters of arrows clenched in their jaws and their shields winking in the dust and up the far side of the ruined ranks in a piping of boneflutes and dropping down off the sides of their mounts with one heel hung in the withers strap and their short bows flexing beneath the outstretched necks of the ponies until they had circled the company and cut their ranks in two and then rising up again like funhouse figures, some with nightmare faces painted on their breasts, riding down the unhorsed Saxons and spearing and clubbing them and leaping from their mounts with knives and running about on the ground with a peculiar bandylegged trot like creatures driven to alien forms of locomotion and stripping the clothes from the dead and seizing them up by the hair and passing their blades about the skulls of the living and the dead alike and snatching aloft the the bloody wigs and hacking and chopping at the naked bodies, ripping off limbs, heads, gutting the strange white torsos and holding up great handfuls of viscera, genitals, some of the savages so slathered up with gore they might have rolled in it like dogs and some who fell upon the dying and sodomized them with loud cries to their fellows. And now the horses of the dead came pounding out of the smoke and dust and circled with flapping leather and wild manes and eyes whited with fear like the eyes of the blind and some were feathered with arrows and some lanced through and stumbling and vomiting blood as they wheeled across the killing ground and clattered from sight again. Dust stanched the wet and naked heads of the scalped who with the fringe of hair below their wounds and tonsured to the bone now lay like maimed and naked monks in the bloodslaked dust and everywhere the dying groaned and gibbered and horses lay screaming."

[Dark Soldier]

Ready Player One, now that's something we can chuck on the pile of nine year olds.

[Spikey M]

George Alagiah

[Max Power]

Trevor Francis.

[AJ23]

Chris Bart-Williams. Only 49. Really shit day for Wednesday and Forest fans.

[Don]

DMRC :(

Guessing CM3.

[Disco]

Best player in the original windows version that you could realistically buy.

[Spikey M]

Sinead O'Connor.

It sounds like she's had a horrible couple of years by all accounts. Assuming suicide.

[Alex]

Sad. A talented women but she always seemed like a troubled soul, even before the stuff with her son.

Music aside, I always think the thing with the picture of the Pope was a genuinely brave thing to do. I think regardless of whether you agreed with what she trying to say or not, it takes a lot of guts to take a stand for something you believe and do something like that knowing what the fallout is going to be like.

[Spikey M]

I don't know how anyone could disagree with what she did (hardened religious folk aside). Opposing the head of the World's largest paedophile ring is something most of us can get behind. That said, she was one of the first to do so publicly, and she didn't follow it up with a gig at the Vatican like today's pop stars would.

[Alex]

I don't know how anyone could disagree with what she did (hardened religious folk aside). Opposing the head of the World's largest paedophile ring is something most of us can get behind. That said, she was one of the first to do so publicly, and she didn't follow it up with a gig at the Vatican like today's pop stars would.

Those are the people I was accounting for, yeah. I'm not sure if any exist on TTH. I thought I better throw the caveat out there though. :D

[Spikey M]

There was GS, but he's the other flavour of Christian fundamentalist.

[Giggles]

In fairness he's a royalist, so only the world's second biggest largest paedophile ring.

[Alex]

:D

[Lewis]

Ironically she became a nutty Muslim in later life. Had she been thirty years younger she could have just said the bald head was some gender woo and got all of the attention/validation she wanted.

[Offshore Toon]

There was GS, but he's the other flavour of Christian fundamentalist.
Dela was fully bonkers with it.

[Boydy]

I don't know how anyone could disagree with what she did (hardened religious folk aside). Opposing the head of the World's largest paedophile ring is something most of us can get behind. That said, she was one of the first to do so publicly, and she didn't follow it up with a gig at the Vatican like today's pop stars would.

The Catholic Church was still operating Magdalene Laundries in Ireland at the time she did that.

[Spikey M]

The Catholic Church was still operating Magdalene Laundries in Ireland at the time she did that.

Mother Teresa is still considered a hero and has a Nobel Prize for setting up similar in poor counties around the world. They called them clinics, but these clinics did not prevent suffering, because suffering is spiritually valuable. I don't know how the Catholic Chirch is still going.

[niko_cee]

It has A LOT of money.

[Lofty]

Paul Reubens, 70. Cancer.

[Spikey M]

Hector Salamanca *ding ding* :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck off :(

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Balls. Didn't think he was in his 80's.

[Magic]

Balls. Didn't think he was in his 80's.

What? :D

[Manc]

His filmography is fascinating.

[Lofty]

William Friedkin, 87.

[Spikey M]

DJ Casper had Criss-Crossed to the other side. Everybody clap your hands.

[John Arne]

Sixto Rodriguez, Sugarman and South Africa fame.

[okitomo]

I don't believe.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nice to see that John Arne has invited a friend to join us.

[John Arne]

:console:

[Gray Fox]

Michael Parkinson

[Shindig]

Bury him with a free parker pen.

[phonics]

“It is not war and death and famine, it’s not that at all. It’s the opposite of that, it’s to persuade there’s a world outside of that. That’s why sport’s important.”

What a man. That interview with him and Ali is fantastic. The sort of Telly you could never do today without execs and producers trying to ruin.

[Ian]

Parky was great. There really is a difference between good interviewers and people who've just ended up with a job interviewing on-screen through circumstance.

[Spikey M]

Mohamed Al-Fayed

[Gray Fox]

Purple Aki apparently.

[Lofty]

Steve Harwell from Smash Mouth, liver failure. 56.

[Offshore Toon]

Purple Aki apparently.
Any idea if this is actually true?

[Shindig]

Wikipedia still talks about him in the present tense.

But who are they to challenge the journalistic integrity of Raja's Dental College? (https://rajasdentalcollege.com/purple-aki-died/)

It's the only source I can spot. He's probably fine. Well, not fine but living.

[Spikey M]

1697732080451355064?t=-aMwSO9CeKO_DfFDILJBbw&s=19

[Gray Fox]

That was taken last day of August, reports of his demise were on the 1st. Further proof needed. Thoughts and prayers for the big man.

[Offshore Toon]

I'm just worried Mahow might get into shape for nothing.

[Shindig]

He's checking the lad's tyres as well. Sincere would approve.

[Baz]

As weird as this is, I hope he’s not dead.

[Danny]

Barry Bennell

[Spikey M]

It's been a bad week for British sex offenders.

[John Arne]

Another Crewe Alex legend gone.

[Baz]

Also a notorious right-handed watch wearer. Absolute wrongun. Glad he’s dead.

[Spikey M]

Michael Gambon

[SincereTheRebel]

Top Gear had a corner named after him.

[Kikó]

Oh yeah? Which one?

[Danny]

Follow through. Based upon an on-set incident.

[Lofty]

:D

His Dumbedore performance was always a bit mental, I thought.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Burt Young who played Paulie in the Rocky films :(

[phonics]

His poor Robot.

[Lewis]

Burt Young who played Paulie in the Rocky films :(

I assumed he had died years ago owing to how old he looks in his seventies films.

[Baz]

Bobby Charlton sharing his deathaversary with Elliott Smith.

[Bam]

Dave Courtney. Suicide apparently.

[phonics]

How on brand for Bamster to be on top of that sort of news.

[Gray Fox]

Bill Kenwright

[phonics]

Matthew Perry

[Bam]

How on brand for Phonics to be on top of that sort of news.

:girl:

[Shindig]

Ah, the Whitney Houston special. Drugs and bathtubs are a powerful tag team.

[Baz]

Nice to see this has taken over my social media in place of Palestine well-wishes.

RIP Chandler Bing.

[Danny]

El Tel apparently

[Shindig]

Damn you, long illness!

[Spikey M]

Ooofff that's a biggie.

[Alex]

If you asked me to guess his age yesterday I wouldn't have had him down as being as old as 80. I don't know why. Now I've read it and I think about it of course he was. He just never registered as "old" in my head.

I think for our generation that summer of 1996 will always be a very definitive memory, it was a massively likeable group and he was certainly a big part of that. I regularly forget that we had him at Leeds for a spell later on.

[niko_cee]

He was a first class twat and a shit England manager.

[Bam]

He was a first class twat and a shit England manager.


Seems a tad harsh, care to explain your assessment?

[Baz]

Who’s been the best England manager in our lifetime?

[SvN]

Obviously Southgate.

[Manc]

Allardyce.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hoddle.

[Shindig]

I barely remember Italia 90 so Sir Bobby gets in.

[Ben]

It’s a tremendously low bar but it’s got to be Southgate.

[Magic]

If you asked me to guess his age yesterday I wouldn't have had him down as being as old as 80. I don't know why. Now I've read it and I think about it of course he was. He just never registered as "old" in my head.

I think for our generation that summer of 1996 will always be a very definitive memory, it was a massively likeable group and he was certainly a big part of that. I regularly forget that we had him at Leeds for a spell later on.

I don't. Wrongly, but synonymous with our decline.

[Disco]

He was a first class twat and a shit England manager.

A bit of respect for the christmas tree please.

[Lewis]

His version of 'If I Can Dream' was made for the anti-racist football moment (subsequently a sad casualty of the situation in the Middle East), but they just didn't fancy it. As for Euro 96, didn't we play well once and let Germany beat us with their two best midfielders at home in a sulk? I suppose that means Gareth Southgate is the best by default.

[Alex]

I don't. Wrongly, but synonymous with our decline.

My mind always seems to sort of skip over the season and jump straight to the relegation season.

I'm just having a look at the squad Venables inherited though, obviously the downward slide had begun it was too good to crash and burn to 15th like it did. There was still a lot of quality in there.

I'd forgotten all about the signing of Paul Okon. :D

[phonics]

It's a bit mad when you think Toshack, Venables and Robson had British managers looking like the cream of the crop and now the highlight of British managers abroad was David Moyes eating some fans crisps after getting sent off.

[niko_cee]

Seems a tad harsh, care to explain your assessment?

He was obsessed with picking Spurs players, and he was a crook, and generally came across as a massive 'proper football man' bellend, but lacking the lovable roguishness of a Redknapp.

[Danny]

Who did he pick that he shouldnt have from Spurs?

From the Euro 96 squad I recall he had Anderson and Sheringham in there.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, those two, although not specifically the Euro 96 squad.

England we absolutely awful in that tournament anyway. Switzerland game an embarrassment. Needed Gary Mac fluffing a pen in the next. One good game against Holland and then one of the greatest muggings in modern football history against Spain before toileting out against Germany. What a time to be alive.

Edit - obviously Anderton, for clarity.

[Ian]

I remember beingnl amazed at how much the collective Euro 96 version of events in our heads was just nostalgia and vibes when ITV sh9wed all the games when Euro 2020 got delayed in lockdown.

Make a substitution, Venables, you twat.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Don't you remember the 90s, Ian? Cool Britannia. Liam Gallagher. The Big Breakfast; Football Italia; the Rwandan genocide. It was the time of our lives.

[Yevrah]

I was sceptical of Venables at the time and he was clearly overrated, but as Ian says watching Euro 96 re-runs was even more illuminating. And Southgate is the best England manager since Alf.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Better than Bobby Robson?

Rankings in my time (i.e. since Venables):

Southgate (still shit)
Sven
Hoddle
Venables
Roy
Keeeeeeeg'n
Capello
Sam
Steve

[Gray Fox]

Big Sam has a 100% win rate and likely got a massive pay off. He's on a different level to the rest.

[Ben]

Allardyce (a single game, an injury time winner against Slovakia) above McClaren. :D

[niko_cee]

And Southgate is the best England manager since Alf.

Wasn't Alf Ramsay pretty much the anti-football of his time?

Maybe England have never had a good manager, or it isn't really possible to be a 'good' international manager in the more accepted terms of what it takes to be one [club terms] other than by winning something. Perhaps Bobby Robson the only good one in living memory.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Both provided gallows entertainment in their spells but I can't forgive McClaren for that defeat to a dreadful Russian outfit which cost us qualification for the big show in the land of Nazi gold.

[Ben]

Maybe England have never had a good manager, or it isn't really possible to be a 'good' international manager in the more accepted terms of what it takes to be one [club terms] other than by winning something. Perhaps Bobby Robson the only good one in living memory.

It's definitely difficult because you can't go out and buy someone better, you've got what you've got. It's a lot easier to stifle a golden generation (or two, in our case) than haul a bunch of misfits to something special like Otto Rehhagel.

[Shindig]

If you're letting Allardyce on that list, Howard Wilkinson's beating McClaren for bottom boy.

[Alex]

Peter Taylor too. Made Beckham captain, didn't he? More notable than anything McLaren did.

[Yevrah]

I suppose you could make an argument for Robson being better than Southgate, but exactly the same issues plagued us in that we couldn't step it up when playing a very good team, Bobby had bloody good players to build a team around as well and we didn't make a final under him. My sense is that the opposition was nowhere near as weak as it is now mind.

[Yevrah]

And that's all a bit fence sitty as I didn't really start watching football properly until Italia 90, so I'm not in a position to judge fully.

[Spikey M]

My footballing memory starts at Euro 96, it was the best tournament ever, our players were the best players ever and we'll hear no more about it. Facts are facts rose tinted or otherwise tyvm.

[Ben]

My earliest vivid memory is Baggio blasting the penalty over the bar at USA 94.

[Lewis]

I suppose you could make an argument for Robson being better than Southgate, but exactly the same issues plagued us in that we couldn't step it up when playing a very good team, Bobby had bloody good players to build a team around as well and we didn't make a final under him. My sense is that the opposition was nowhere near as weak as it is now mind.

We probably shouldn't have made any finals on the basis that Argentina and West Germany were just better, but weren't we terrible in both World Cups until those knock-outs? The less said about the 1988 tournament the better. People remember Marco van Basten doing us over, but we lost to Ireland with eleven better players.

[Yevrah]

We were shit against Belgium and Cameroon should have beaten us too.

[Baz]

No mourning for Sticky Vicky in here?

[John Arne]

Serial war criminal Henry Kissinger finally fucking dead.

Just one example of his war crimes.. https://theconversation.com/henry-kissingers-bombing-campaign-likely-killed-hundreds-of-thousands-of-cambodians-and-set-path-for-the-ravages-of-the-khmer-rouge-209353

[Disco]

Finally a good one, what an awful cunt.

[-james-]

The vaxx claims another.

[Spikey M]

One of those rare days where you hope hell is real.

[Giggles]

I always thought Henry Kissinger was an actor.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Lit some candles under the 8ft canvas of him in my bathroom this morning. Sad day.

[Magic]

I always thought Henry Kissinger was an actor.

A bad actor.

[Spikey M]

The BBC are leading with "Kissinger: Divisive diplomat who shaped world affairs". The determination to stay unbiased is admirable, but we are talking about the man that deliberately destabilised the Middle East / Africa, causing war and global terrorism, so that America could control the price of oil and metals here. Divisive indeed.

[Kikó]

Good job Pfizer killing another one.

[Disco]

Played up his accent in later life too the big murdering fanny.

[niko_cee]

Another one who I was sure must have died years ago.

[wullie]

Fuck Kissinger, Jimmy Corkhill's died.

[Lofty]

The hearses are coooomin.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm told Shane Macgowan has finally gone.

[Spikey M]

Jesus. Some day.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you think about all the people we've heard of who are still alive, it's going to be a rough 40 years or so ahead. They'll be dying faster than we can put the coffins together.

[Kikó]

Vaccine on fire today.

[Giggles]

What did this Kissinger lad do that was so bad? For a place that would be apoligist for almost any dictator/serial killer etc, there seems to be a fair bit of bad sentment towards him.

[Disco]

What did this Kissinger lad do that was so bad? For a place that would be apoligist for almost any dictator/serial killer etc, there seems to be a fair bit of bad sentment towards him.

Let's see, illegal bombing of Laos and Cambodia plus a secret invasion of the latter. Hindu genocide in Bangladesh. Scuppering the Vietnam peace talks to further election chances. Coups against progressive regimes in Chile and Brazil as well as using death squads across central America to murder civilians and clergy. Not to mention absolutely disastrous meddling in middle eastern politics. A right cunt in every respect.

[Spikey M]

What did this Kissinger lad do that was so bad? For a place that would be apoligist for almost any dictator/serial killer etc, there seems to be a fair bit of bad sentment towards him.

These are his greatest hits:

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But he also has his finger prints all over various African Civil Wars, and the power dynamics of the Middle East. The likes of Isis and Boko Haram wouldn't exist - or atleast, wouldn't be at all powerful - without him.

[Ben]

We're all anti-Semites for daring to criticise.

[Disco]

On that didn't he also say if he wasn't Jewish he would be an anti-semite? No smoke without fire or something like that, classic fascist position.

[Spikey M]

That's very Suella Braverman.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kissinger was also a huge player in the Turkish-Cypriot invasion.

Wouldn't have happened without the prick.

[Boydy]

Alistair Darling dead today as well. Big day for famous deaths.

[Boydy]

Anthony Bourdain on Kissinger:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqF2_KTWYAEjhws.jpg

[Spikey M]

Alistair Darling dead today as well. Big day for famous deaths.

Jimmy is going to need some more candles.

[Boydy]

(War criminal) game recognise (war criminal) game:
1730135295444578460

[Jimmy Floyd]

Jimmy is going to need some more candles.

I've cut out the middle man and set the house on fire. It's what at least some of them would have wanted.

[Danny]

Shane MacGowan

I would have said he was already if you had asked

[Yevrah]

Sticky Vicky as well. A truly momentous day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-67564925

I never had the pleasure.

[Ben]

It’s all Sex on a Segway now.

[Spikey M]

Sticky Vicky as well. A truly momentous day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-67564925

I never had the pleasure.

I saw about her on Twitter yesterday, so sadly she's not to be included in the scenes of Tyrant Thursday. Which is a shame really, as they could have popped a candle up her as a last hurrah.

[Lofty]

Benjamin Zephaniah.

[-james-]

When I was in primary school I had a mate who lived on a farm, and his dad sold Turkeys at Christmas. My mum gave him a Talking Turkeys Christmas card one year and he was properly seething.

[Gray Fox]

Andre Braugher aka Captain Holt.

Short illness strikes again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Guardian going with 'brief illness', which in my imagination sounds like a 24 hour journey from bouncy castle to grave after a slight afternoon sniffle.

[niko_cee]

My elderly neighbour quite recently had a 'short illness' journey. 21 days days from diagnosis to death. Alarming.

Not famous though, I don't think.

[Gray Fox]

I'll never forget the one like that we had at work. Guy felt run down for a little while until one day his mate told him he looked unwell. Got into the doctor the next day who had him take a blood test. Doctor rang him back a day or so later saying we need to see you. He went okay book me in for next week some time and he got the response of no, we need to see you today.

When he got to them they told him he'd be lucky if he had months left and that he should get his affairs in order. He was in a hospice by the end of the week and I don't think he lasted there for more than 2 weeks before he was gone. He thought they were just going to tell him he'd had a virus and he'd be fine.

[Kikó]

Merry Christmas!

[Gray Fox]

Zak Dingle.

[Spikey M]

Isn't he a distant relative of Lewis?

[Spikey M]

Soz, *wasn't. RIP.

[Dark Soldier]

I met big Zak once. He was an egotistical cunt.

[Lofty]

Zak Dingle ranting in Threads is top tier! Bastards!

[Kikó]

https://twitter.com/DailyMirror/status/1738226057201778980?t=h9J7Y1oZEOhCE-VjuSgsdQ&s=19

Santa

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Christmas cancelled :(

[Lofty]

I bet at least one parent was cursing him after for ruining the magic.

[niko_cee]

Of course it was in Russia.


Many thought the fall was part of the act and did not realise he had died right away.

:face:

[John Arne]

Lee Sun-kyun, killed himself in a car park.

Starred in Parasite, R-Point and some other stuff.

[Spikey M]

Because he's being investigated for smoking weed, apparently. :cab:

[niko_cee]

Good old Korean weirdness.

I see Bill Granger's gone as well.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Normally a real big one to get stuck into over Christmas. Very disappointing.

[Lofty]

Tom Wilkinson aka Gerald from The Full Monty, 75.

[SvN]

Ah shit, I really liked him, tremendous actor. A sudden death apparently.

[Lofty]

John Pilger, 84.

[Kikó]

Atrocity denier.

[Jimmy Floyd]

An exemplar of the worst sort of Cold War contrarian leftism that has its starting point at America = bad and works outwards. Dishonest as well as stupid.

[niko_cee]

I have recollections of Henry being a big fan, which would figure.

I'm not sure I really know enough about him to dismiss him in such robust terms.

[Boydy]

Atrocity denier.

I'm not arguing as I don't know enough about him but which atrocities did he deny?

[Kikó]

I'm not arguing as I don't know enough about him but which atrocities did he deny?

Assad, Milosovic and more recently Putin.

[Lewis]

Most of the people accusing him of denying Syrian government war crimes, which he did, spent the same period of time convincing themselves that 'moderate Al-Qaeda' was a thing, and none of them seem to realise that it all sits on the same retard spectrum. The dangers of getting too right into something.

[Lofty]

Camila Batmanghelidjh, 61.

[niko_cee]

The embezzlement and grifting game is obviously a hard life.

[-james-]

Beckenbauer

[Don]

Zagallo 2 days ago too? RIP Deschamps.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The thing that always gets me with these kind of deaths (Zagallo and the Führer) is that the Brian Glanville pre-written obits get trotted out which means, in turn, that Brian Glanville is somehow still alive.

[niko_cee]

It's weird to think that when he made his Bayern debut they were in the second tier of German football and in his 14 seasons there they 'only' won the league 5 times, albeit whilst also winning the European Cup 3 times in a row. How completely different modern football has become.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He is one of those figures who reflects history. Born four months after Adolf did himself in. Started his playing career as the wall went up, managed them to a World Cup win as it came down.

[Lewis]

Proper good German name as well for all of that.

[Gray Fox]

Carl Weathers.

[Ian]

:(

[Shindig]

No more stew going on. :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck.

[Giggles]

Is he the lad from the Rocky films?

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah. And Predator and The Mandolorian

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And Arrested Development.

[Lofty]

Weathers you son of a bitch.

[Shindig]

I anticipate a heart warming speech from Dolph Lungren at his funeral.

[Ian]

I anticipate a heart warming speech from Dolph Lungren at his funeral.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WvAeWtyZ-uE/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJ D&rs=AOn4CLDdMk678Y-EPuRvTZ0hQ2sY4cTNTw

[Alex]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68270866

Kelvin Kiptum, the marathon world record holder. He smashed the world record by about 30 seconds in only his third race last year. He was only 24 and surely had more records in him - very possibly would have been the guy to break the 2 hour barrier in race conditions.

[Kikó]

Vaccinated?

[Shindig]

When you think about it, car tyres are sort of balloons.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kagney Linn Karter committed suicide :(

[Bam]

Celebs who are now dead, not cam girls.

[Spikey M]

Fuck me, I assumed it was just another one of the actors that I'd never heard of.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

She was a great actor you philistines, I watched a lot of her films.

She had incredible range.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If I've not heard of them and they have a silly name, I always assume porn star or wrestler.

That's quite a Giggles post, but I'm not sure I mind it.

[niko_cee]

Is that for when your wife checks what you've been posting in here?

Edit, out of the way Jim. Double edit, and Mahow, for fuck's sake. All smart arse impact lost.

[Giggles]

That's Magics wank sorted tonight then.

[Dark Soldier]

You almost had me convinced mahow had a wife for a second there, niko. Much relief. Lad would see a fanny in the wild and try to feed it pickles.

[wullie]

https://i.imgur.com/a8V3jkU.jpeg

[Baz]

RIP Mahow (https://i.imgur.com/FjH72AV.png).

[SvN]

The biggest shock is that he was in his 20s in The Office.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This has hit me hard :(

[Spikey M]

Oooffff :(

[phonics]

"under weaknesses you've listed, dead"

[Lofty]

Dave Myers, Hairy Biker, 66.

[niko_cee]

:(

For some reason I thought he was getting better, but seeing those photos of him from last year you can see clearly not.

[Ben]

:(:(:(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That sucks, he was great.

[SvN]

Richard Lewis

https://i.imgur.com/gV7qZJT.jpeg

[Gray Fox]

Akira Toriyama

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68701888

Andre from Gen V :(

[Giggles]

Joe Kinnear.

[Lofty]

We'll always have Yohanne Kebab.