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Alan Shearer The 2nd
14-11-2015, 02:22 PM
Is everywhere giving it this 'so-called' Islamic State shite?
Magic
14-11-2015, 02:22 PM
What sort of person sees this on the news and thinks "I need to get down there to take some pictures"?
:eyemouth:
Magic
14-11-2015, 02:23 PM
Is everywhere giving it this 'so-called' Islamic State shite?
LOL saw this on Sky news earlier.
Disco
14-11-2015, 02:25 PM
I also feel that these 'groups' who carry out such attacks are several hundred years behind the western world in terms of society development and their approach to politics and governance. Barbarians, bit like Genghis Khan.
Try about a thousand years, this is from a recent Atlantic article partially explaining IS strategy and thinking...
The Islamic State has attached great importance to the Syrian city of Dabiq, near Aleppo. It named its propaganda magazine after the town, and celebrated madly when (at great cost) it conquered Dabiq’s strategically unimportant plains. It is here, the Prophet reportedly said, that the armies of Rome will set up their camp. The armies of Islam will meet them, and Dabiq will be Rome’s Waterloo or its Antietam.
“Dabiq is basically all farmland,” one Islamic State supporter recently tweeted. “You could imagine large battles taking place there.” The Islamic State’s propagandists drool with anticipation of this event, and constantly imply that it will come soon. The state’s magazine quotes Zarqawi as saying, “The spark has been lit here in Iraq, and its heat will continue to intensify … until it burns the crusader armies in Dabiq.” A recent propaganda video shows clips from Hollywood war movies set in medieval times—perhaps because many of the prophecies specify that the armies will be on horseback or carrying ancient weapons.
Now that it has taken Dabiq, the Islamic State awaits the arrival of an enemy army there, whose defeat will initiate the countdown to the apocalypse. Western media frequently miss references to Dabiq in the Islamic State’s videos, and focus instead on lurid scenes of beheading. “Here we are, burying the first American crusader in Dabiq, eagerly waiting for the remainder of your armies to arrive,” said a masked executioner in a November video, showing the severed head of Peter (Abdul Rahman) Kassig, the aid worker who’d been held captive for more than a year. During fighting in Iraq in December, after mujahideen (perhaps inaccurately) reported having seen American soldiers in battle, Islamic State Twitter accounts erupted in spasms of pleasure, like overenthusiastic hosts or hostesses upon the arrival of the first guests at a party.
The Prophetic narration that foretells the Dabiq battle refers to the enemy as Rome. Who “Rome” is, now that the pope has no army, remains a matter of debate. But Cerantonio makes a case that Rome meant the Eastern Roman empire, which had its capital in what is now Istanbul. We should think of Rome as the Republic of Turkey—the same republic that ended the last self-identified caliphate, 90 years ago. Other Islamic State sources suggest that Rome might mean any infidel army, and the Americans will do nicely.
After its battle in Dabiq, Cerantonio said, the caliphate will expand and sack Istanbul. Some believe it will then cover the entire Earth, but Cerantonio suggested its tide may never reach beyond the Bosporus. An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.
Yevrah
14-11-2015, 02:27 PM
Is everywhere giving it this 'so-called' Islamic State shite?
Yep - one wonders what the point is.
As Clarkson said, if you're going to give them a derisory name, call them Islamic Faggots or such like.
Dquincy
14-11-2015, 02:33 PM
If i start a new 'Jonestown', save for the mass suicide, would anyone want to join me? ...Quncyville.
Henry
14-11-2015, 02:56 PM
I also feel that these 'groups' who carry out such attacks are several hundred years behind the western world in terms of society development and their approach to politics and governance. Barbarians, bit like Genghis Khan.
This is another part of the narrative based on a misconception. This is a modern phenomenon, based on largely modern ideas.
It isn't just backwardness.
leedsrevolution
14-11-2015, 02:58 PM
I'm pretty sad about all of this, just feel a bit numb in a way. Very close to home now, something needs to be done.
Shindig
14-11-2015, 03:18 PM
You can't really be precise with this war on terror nonsense. All you can is hope your intelligence is bang on.
And here we go with the Facebook profile pictures 'in support' of the French. :rolleyes:
Giggles
14-11-2015, 03:26 PM
And here we go with the Facebook profile pictures 'in support' of the French. :rolleyes:
Just seen that. The website is actually asking if you want to superimpose your photo on a French flag :rolleyes:
"Change your profile picture to support France and the people of Paris."
If I don't am I a terrorist sympathiser?
Giggles
14-11-2015, 03:30 PM
"Change your profile picture to support France and the people of Paris."
If I don't am I a terrorist sympathiser?
Looking at my news feed currently, I must be the only isis supporter left on there.
Boydy
14-11-2015, 03:30 PM
And here we go with the Facebook profile pictures 'in support' of the French. :rolleyes:
It's so annoying. So many mawkish statuses last night and today as well.
And then some people saying stuff like 'what about Beirut?' Of course Paris gets more coverage than Beirut. It's a bigger attack for one. It's a lot closer and it's a place plenty of people have been to and a place where a lot of people here might even know someone at the minute.
Lewis
14-11-2015, 03:31 PM
Remember when we all had Turkish flags last month? No? Oh well.
It wouldn't be an historical anomaly to just kick the Muslims out of [Western] Europe if they were perceived to represent an existential threat. States are generally founded and secured on the back of mass death and population transfers (we could avoid mass death). Well over a million left Algeria when France pulled the plug; fourteen million Germans were forced out of Central and Eastern Europe after the Second World War; and how many have left Syria since that went up? I'm not saying we are there yet, but if it gets to a stage where it genuinely becomes a choice between these sort of attacks becoming common or the rest of us having to have our liberties curtailed...
Magic
14-11-2015, 03:33 PM
Remember when we all had Turkish flags last month? No? Oh well.
It wouldn't be an historical anomaly to just kick the Muslims out of [Western] Europe if they were perceived to represent an existential threat. States are generally founded and secured on the back of mass death and population transfers (we could avoid mass death). Well over a million left Algeria when France pulled the plug; fourteen million Germans were forced out of Central and Eastern Europe after the Second World War; and how many have left Syria since that went up? I'm not saying we are there yet, but if it gets to a stage where it genuinely becomes a choice between these sort of attacks becoming common or the rest of us having to have our liberties curtailed...
That was an attack on Kurds in Turkey.
Giggles
14-11-2015, 03:33 PM
It's so annoying. So many mawkish statuses last night and today as well.
And then some people saying stuff like 'what about Beirut?' Of course Paris gets more coverage than Beirut. It's a bigger attack for one. It's a lot closer and it's a place plenty of people have been to and a place where a lot of people here might even know someone at the minute.
That 'Banksy' Eiffel Tower thing in the circle is getting quite the run out too. Terrorists defeated.
Boydy
14-11-2015, 03:34 PM
That 'Banksy' Eiffel Tower thing in the circle is getting quite the run out too. Terrorists defeated.
Yeah, I've seen quite a few of them too.
Magic
14-11-2015, 03:35 PM
A lot of these photos and stuff make out like this was an accident that couldn't have been prevented no matter what.
Boydy
14-11-2015, 03:38 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/14/jason-manford-paris-attacks-terrorist-facebook_n_8562942.html
Branding the attackers “f***ing cowards”, he said at the time: “Slaughtering innocent unarmed people for what? Families and children enjoying life, theatre, meals?
“For what? In whose name? Are you doing this in the name of your god? Cos I've got news for you, if you think your 'god' is gonna reward you for this type of atrocity then your god is a massive c**t.”
Jason Manford's getting shit for that. :cab:
leedsrevolution
14-11-2015, 03:42 PM
Most people just said spot on. Only the odd fucking moron said otherwise.
Giggles
14-11-2015, 03:42 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/14/jason-manford-paris-attacks-terrorist-facebook_n_8562942.html
Jason Manford's getting shit for that. :cab:
His account was apparently barred by Facebook for it too.
EDIT: Ah yes, says so at the top of the article.
Yevrah
14-11-2015, 03:57 PM
The "then your God is a massive cunt" line is a good one.
Magic
14-11-2015, 04:00 PM
I have to say when the Islamists behead Manford in broad daylight I'll be struggling to find any sympathy.
Giggles
14-11-2015, 04:17 PM
Roddy Doyle, like clockwork, has popped up with one of his 'conversation in the pub' things about this that he does for everything these days. He really needs to fuck off with those.
The French are having a shit weekend. As if last night wasn't bad enough there has been a train crash which has killed people in Strasbourg and, possibly worst of all, Kay Burley is now in Paris. I can't wait to see her tell a passerby that their relatives were blown up last night. She offered a small glimpse as to where her mind is when she said one of the killers "continued shopping" as rather than "shooting".
She has also just told me that a French bloke was arrested at Gatwick this morning in possession of a gun, having dropped something in a bin which then required a controlled explosion by the bomb squad.
Oof, one of the perpetrators was a refugee from Syria who passed through Greece in October.
I'm going to a gig tonight. :uhoh:
Oof, one of the perpetrators was a refugee from Syria who passed through Greece in October.
This was always a risk, and one which will continue to exist whilst proper processing procedures are absent. Even then, how could you realistically attempt to "catch" all of them?
This whole thing is horrendous. Clearly they've had proper training with weapons as well.
Byron
14-11-2015, 05:05 PM
Nice to see Harold reveling in his 'e-victory'
This must be his 5th alias now, so presumably that's increasing his ban.
Henry
14-11-2015, 05:13 PM
Yeah, he's gone for about 6 weeks now I think.
Lewis
14-11-2015, 05:42 PM
One of the twats who blew himself up at the stadium had a ticket and was turned away when they frisked his vest.
The Americans have taken out the head of ISIL in Libya.
Magic
14-11-2015, 05:52 PM
One of the twats who blew himself up at the stadium had a ticket and was turned away when they frisked his vest.
Fair play to the security as presumably he detonated there and then?
Waffdon
14-11-2015, 05:55 PM
Sky Sports News HQ @SkySportsNewsHQ 2m2 minutes ago
BREAKING NEWS: France international Lassana Diarra confirms his cousin was killed in Paris terrorist attacks #SSNHQ
Was playing in the game when it happened.
Fuck me how much worse could it have been if the cunt had got inside the stadium?
Boydy
14-11-2015, 06:09 PM
Social Media Rumours About The Paris Attacks That You Shouldn’t Believe (http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/paris-attacks-social-media-rumours?utm_term=.aeaRY2xog#.grV4BZAaN)
Giggles
14-11-2015, 06:32 PM
Social Media Rumours About The Paris Attacks That You Shouldn’t Believe (http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomphillips/paris-attacks-social-media-rumours?utm_term=.aeaRY2xog#.grV4BZAaN)
Mad how it runs so wild like that. Everyone desperate for a like/retweet/follow/etc.
My feed is in full French flag meltdown now.
Davgooner
14-11-2015, 06:33 PM
Press conference just underway in Belgium. First question they responded: 'No comment'.
Lads...
Lewis
14-11-2015, 06:38 PM
Huw Edwards just interviewed some bloke on the street and he couldn't even speak English. It just shows you how they've completely failed to integrate.
Davgooner
14-11-2015, 06:40 PM
Is Harold paying you for this?
Huw Edwards just interviewed some bloke on the street and he couldn't even speak English. It just shows you how they've completely failed to integrate.
I was wondering if Edwards was making the responses up.
Mad how it runs so wild like that. Everyone desperate for a like/retweet/follow/etc.
My feed is in full French flag meltdown now.
Not just feeds, the media itself has created "were you there, are you affected?" mentality in recent years leading to the puerile commentary from the ill informed.
"We don't really need to know how you feel about it dear, your opinion is without value, just like the rest of your existence."
It's now out of their control and the media spends more time reacting to the misinterpreted comedy commentary than they do the actual event. There will never again be the cloud of naive confusion that existed the morning of 9/11, instead it'll all be ill informed, easily suggestible, broadcasts of misinformation shared amongst the least well informed, and easily suggestible.
Spoonsky
14-11-2015, 07:03 PM
Remember when we all had Turkish flags last month? No? Oh well.
It wouldn't be an historical anomaly to just kick the Muslims out of [Western] Europe if they were perceived to represent an existential threat. States are generally founded and secured on the back of mass death and population transfers (we could avoid mass death). Well over a million left Algeria when France pulled the plug; fourteen million Germans were forced out of Central and Eastern Europe after the Second World War; and how many have left Syria since that went up? I'm not saying we are there yet, but if it gets to a stage where it genuinely becomes a choice between these sort of attacks becoming common or the rest of us having to have our liberties curtailed...
The problem with this is that the Middle East is such a shithole right now. The pied-noirs still had a stable and prosperous France to return to, but where could the European Muslims go that wouldn't present just the same problems?
Yevrah
14-11-2015, 07:04 PM
Mad how it runs so wild like that. Everyone desperate for a like/retweet/follow/etc.
My feed is in full French flag meltdown now.
Just had a look at mine and :sick: The best are those that have superimposed a French flag over a picture of themselves out on the piss.
Magic
14-11-2015, 07:06 PM
Some absolute cunts on Facebook now blaming tax credit cuts etc for this. Also lol @ Panda for saying its an economic problem.
Just had a look at mine and :sick: The best are those that have superimposed a French flag over a picture of themselves out on the piss.
:nodd:
The best I've seen today is a group shot of maybe fifteen people either grinning or laughing, all holding pints, with one extra strength twat draped over them and absolutely pissing himself.
It's odd how Facebook warps concepts and ends up with people doing things as bizarre as that as a 'mark of respect'.
Spoonsky
14-11-2015, 07:34 PM
I've just posted: "There are ways to show solidarity. Clicking a button on Facebook is not one of them." Probably going to get destroyed but wahey.
Magic
14-11-2015, 07:35 PM
Mine was a fat bird drinking Smirnoff straight from a half bottle. Looks great with the French flag superimposed...
What an odd thing to moan about. It's no less a statement of solidarity than holding a candle at some hastily arranged 'vigil'. People doing it will be doing so with good intentions. It isn't for me but half you precious sods would rather be living in 1955.
What an odd thing to moan about. It's no less a statement of solidarity than holding a candle at some hastily arranged 'vigil'. People doing it will be doing so with good intentions. It isn't for me but half you precious sods would rather be living in 1955.
I'm not against the idea, it's just throwing up some seriously lol images. You can guarantee, for example, that some twat will have Kermit the Frog as their display picture and unthinkingly stick a French flag over it.
Magic
14-11-2015, 07:52 PM
Any Muslims done it yet? :baz:
Giggles
14-11-2015, 07:52 PM
The latest on mine is of Bane on a French flag. The strange part is that he only changed his profile picture from himself to Bane earlier today.
Any Muslims done it yet? :baz:
I'm friends (in a Facebook sense - I knew him some time ago) is is properly devout. Always posting videos of famous Imams, always off to Muslim countries doing charity stuff. Imthink he must be high up in some muslim charity or something as I've noticed him post photos of him meeting David Cameron on a number of occasions. He was always incredibly nice to me, very bright and a really mild mannered sort of chap.
But I'll be honest, I suspected a bit of dodginess about him. He was the first people I saw condemn this and he now has a French flag over his profile picture. I can't say I wasn't surprised. Shame on me, I guess. I reserve the right to take that back of he explodes himself on the tube in the future.
Spoonsky
14-11-2015, 07:58 PM
What an odd thing to moan about. It's no less a statement of solidarity than holding a candle at some hastily arranged 'vigil'. People doing it will be doing so with good intentions. It isn't for me but half you precious sods would rather be living in 1955.
It is, though. This takes two seconds and is purely superficial. I would hope that I don't need to change my profile picture for people to know how I feel about the attacks, and that should go for all my friends too. It's not making a statement when everyone else is making the exact same statement.
I probably would rather be living in 1955 you know.
Whereas standing outside with a candle is really substantial. Both make zero (practical) difference but so what? It's just people trying to be nice.
Giggles
14-11-2015, 08:04 PM
Whereas standing outside with a candle is really substantial. Both make zero (practical) difference but so what? It's just people trying to be nice.
But that's the thing, they're not really.
Lewis
14-11-2015, 08:05 PM
The problem with this is that the Middle East is such a shithole right now. The pied-noirs still had a stable and prosperous France to return to, but where could the European Muslims go that wouldn't present just the same problems?
The Middle East would no doubt be worse off for it, but the 'problems' we would have to face before such a plan was embarked upon would be solved.
Yevrah
14-11-2015, 08:06 PM
Whereas standing outside with a candle is really substantial. Both make zero (practical) difference but so what? It's just people trying to be nice.
It's not though, is it? It's people wanting to be seen to be nice and it's bollocks. At least bothering to go to a vigil and light a candle takes some effort, but I'm hardly advocating that either.
If you think it's fine and shows that you're nice, why aren't you doing it?
Most of the things we moan about are odd. We're cunts, after all.
Spoonsky
14-11-2015, 08:09 PM
Whereas standing outside with a candle is really substantial. Both make zero (practical) difference but so what? It's just people trying to be nice.
It is a more substantial show of solidarity, yes, given that you're actually devoting your time to it. Vigils are a time of introspection, of thought and time devoted to whatever has happened. I just wonder how many of the flag-people have had a substantive conversation about the attacks, beyond how tragic they are.
It won't make a practical difference but realistically none of us can, except by thinking about it and collectively coming to some sort of conclusion.
This fucker has just appeared, which might be the most flippant one yet.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2gwtgf8.jpg
Yevrah
14-11-2015, 08:12 PM
It's just an extension of the narcissistic bollocks that social media is awash with.
It's not though, is it? It's people wanting to be seen to be nice and it's bollocks. At least bothering to go to a vigil and light a candle takes some effort, but I'm hardly advocating that either.
If you think it's fine and shows that you're nice, why aren't you doing it?
I imagine every person who has done it knows why they've done it and thinks what happened was a bad thing. Some probably do just want to be seen to be nice but so what? There are worse things to be accused of.
I'm not doing it because I love ISIS.
I mean, Jesus, what a fucking stupid question. I just don't want to do it. Some people do and they'll be doing so because they think it's a nice gesture. Who gives a shit?
It's just an extension of the narcissistic bollocks that social media is awash with.
Social media is awash with people. Social media is only a reflection of human nature. People already did this stuff in different ways, it's just that you didn't get to see them all doing it.
Magic
14-11-2015, 08:15 PM
Most of the things we moan about are odd. We're cunts, after all.
That's the thing, we're not. We're a pretty decent group compared to most of the world's cretins.
Yevrah
14-11-2015, 08:16 PM
I imagine every person who has done it knows whay they've done it and thinks it was a bad thing. Some probably do just want to be seem to be nice but so what? There are worse things to be accused of.
I'm not doing it because I love ISIS.
I mean, Jesus, what a fucking stupid question. I just don't want to do it. Some people do and they'll be doing so because they think it's a nice gesture. Who gives a shit?
You're not doing it because you're not a twat. That's really the beginning and end of your motives. That you're defending people who do is the odd part.
igor_balis
14-11-2015, 08:17 PM
sorry for being a condescending wanker, but that's the kind of thing i'd have done when i was your age spoon. you have to learn to sneer inwardly rather than needlessly alienating yourself, or at least pick your battles.
You're not doing it because you're not a twat. That's really the beginning and end of your motives. That you're defending people who do is the odd part.
I don't care that they are doing it is all. I'm defending them only in that they're being attacked on here because they changed a profile picture on a website. And yet it's them and social media that's the problem.
Magic
14-11-2015, 08:23 PM
sorry for being a condescending wanker, but that's the kind of thing i'd have done when i was your age spoon. you have to learn to sneer inwardly rather than needlessly alienating yourself, or at least pick your battles.
We're a terrible influence.
Giggles
14-11-2015, 08:25 PM
sorry for being a condescending wanker, but that's the kind of thing i'd have done when i was your age spoon. you have to learn to sneer inwardly rather than needlessly alienating yourself, or at least pick your battles.
This. I'm even avoiding posting or commenting on anything tonight because of it. Just because I don't want some tacky French flag on my profile picture, I still don't feel like flaunting it about that I didn't bother.
Yevrah
14-11-2015, 08:26 PM
I don't care that they are doing it is all. I'm defending them only in that they're being attacked on here because they changed a profile picture on a website. And yet it's them and social media that's the problem.
I don't really CARE either, it's just a wanky thing to do and I'm calling that. It's not as if I'm sending hate to those on my feed that have done so and/or de-friending them.
That you don't feel compelled to do it says it all frankly.
Spoonsky
14-11-2015, 08:26 PM
sorry for being a condescending wanker, but that's the kind of thing i'd have done when i was your age spoon. you have to learn to sneer inwardly rather than needlessly alienating yourself, or at least pick your battles.
There hasn't been much of a backlash actually. Maybe people are just silently marking me as an asshole. Not that I care, if someone hates me because of this they probably wouldn't have been worth being friends with in the first place.
I don't really CARE either, it's just a wanky thing to do and I'm calling that. It's not as if I'm sending hate to those on my feed that have done so and/or de-friending them.
That you don't feel compelled to do it says it all frankly.
That's a really strange argument. I don't feel compelled to make a peanut butter sandwich but I won't think you're a twat if you do so and post a photo of it on Facebook.
Alan Shearer The 2nd
14-11-2015, 08:53 PM
Heavily armed police seen converging on the Pullman Hotel near the Eiffel tower apparently...
Giggles
14-11-2015, 09:03 PM
Heavily armed police seen converging on the Pullman Hotel near the Eiffel tower apparently...
Room searches according to Sky.
I just wonder how many of the flag-people have had a substantive conversation about the attacks
Isn't this basically saying that you're the only one who's good enough of a person to really care?
Presumably a tip off that somebody dodgy is stopping there. They've evacuated the area around the Eiffel Tower and closed a nearby metro station too.
.....And the police have given the all clear. The whole city is just on edge, I guess.
Jimmy Floyd
14-11-2015, 09:26 PM
These things can vary on the mawkishness. I found the 'put your bats out' thing for Phil Hughes genuinely touching. But that's maybe just because I love cricket more than I love, say, France.
Spoonsky
14-11-2015, 09:28 PM
Isn't this basically saying that you're the only one who's good enough of a person to really care?
It's not about caring, I'm sure I'm no more horrified than anyone else. It's just that at a certain point that's not enough.
It's hardly worth getting worked up about.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what impact this has on the migrant CRISIS (and attempts to handle it), and also on current policy in relation to bombing ISIL by the West.
Davgooner
14-11-2015, 09:41 PM
Anyone that doesn't change their avatar to that wank eiffel tower/peace symbol by tomorrow should be ditched IMO.
Lewis
14-11-2015, 09:44 PM
These things can vary on the mawkishness. I found the 'put your bats out' thing for Phil Hughes genuinely touching. But that's maybe just because I love cricket more than I love, say, France.
That was pure, unfiltered mawkishness.
It seems a second attacker may have arrived in Europe via Greece.
phonics
14-11-2015, 10:13 PM
I've just posted: "There are ways to show solidarity. Clicking a button on Facebook is not one of them." Probably going to get destroyed but wahey.
So brave.
Magic
14-11-2015, 10:20 PM
I honestly thought we'd have seen a substantial Russian ground offensive by now. Are France going to be the first acting independently? Is this where the West backtrack and support Assad?
Jimmy Floyd
14-11-2015, 10:27 PM
That was pure, unfiltered mawkishness.
Didn't seem so from inside the game, which is all that really matters.
Lewis
14-11-2015, 10:32 PM
That's probably how Scousers see it. Didn't a couple of no-mark cricketers die in freak accidents within a few months and nobody cared?
Jimmy Floyd
14-11-2015, 10:45 PM
Don't think so, but regardless the death of a high profile player is going to affect a lot more people, and the put your bats out tribute itself was tasteful, moving and personal. The 63 not out and 408 variants of it I wasn't so sold on because it's just a meaningless, repeated number (we know all about those).
Similarly what I find annoying is the rush to be seen to say something. Why does everyone need to say they are shocked and their hearts go out on Facebook?
Magic
14-11-2015, 10:47 PM
An SNP nut who is very much an active supporter of independence, goes on rallies etc has just posted a John Lennon quote about no countries.
:harold:
Alan Shearer The 2nd
14-11-2015, 10:48 PM
Narcissism in a way, they want the attention.
See also: Happy birthday to the best dad/mum/grandad/gran ever!
...when they're not even on facebook.
Jimmy Floyd
14-11-2015, 10:54 PM
One thing this has done is swung me right back from edging towards a staying in Europe vote to definitely voting to leave. I'm not going to allow our immigration policy to be partially decided by the whims of fucking useless chain smoking Greek border guards if this sort of thing is what is at stake.
One thing this has done is swung me right back from edging towards a staying in Europe vote to definitely voting to leave. I'm not going to allow our immigration policy to be partially decided by the whims of fucking useless chain smoking Greek border guards if this sort of thing is what is at stake.
The Germans must be nervous. They've allowed hundreds of thousands to enter the country undocumented.
Lewis
14-11-2015, 10:58 PM
Don't think so, but regardless the death of a high profile player is going to affect a lot more people, and the put your bats out tribute itself was tasteful, moving and personal. The 63 not out and 408 variants of it I wasn't so sold on because it's just a meaningless, repeated number (we know all about those).
Similarly what I find annoying is the rush to be seen to say something. Why does everyone need to say they are shocked and their hearts go out on Facebook?
It wasn't remotely personal. Going to his funeral would have been, but for whatever reason that was restricted to those that actually knew him. How did it affect you out of interest?
ScousePig
14-11-2015, 11:09 PM
The Phil Hughes death 'affected' me more than 120 people dying I'd never seen or heard of, in the sense that I actually felt some genuine sadness over someone dying tragically that I'd seen lots of times.
Marton Fulop's death affected me more tbh.
Jimmy Floyd
14-11-2015, 11:15 PM
It wasn't remotely personal. Going to his funeral would have been, but for whatever reason that was restricted to those that actually knew him. How did it affect you out of interest?
It was personal because people were putting out their own bats - which mean something to them - to pay tribute to the guy and not just retweeting a trite slogan.
It didn't ruin my life, but when it's a well known practitioner of something you enjoy watching and in my case playing all the time, it makes you think. Would you look twice if an Australian league international was suddenly killed by a rogue head injury during a match? I think you would.
It's no good expecting everyone to take a broad-sweep-of-history approach to death.
Lewis
14-11-2015, 11:35 PM
Respect the death, but wallowing in it and feeling the need to mount your own tributes is mawkishness.
There was a lower league league player who died last season, and his widow sang the national anthem at the Challenge Cup final. It was a nice gesture, and everybody seemed to like it. But she sang it again today before the test match. When do they stop using her? Somebody is going to have to let her go in the near future, otherwise she just becomes a fixture; and what happens if somebody else dies?
There hasn't been much of a backlash actually. Maybe people are just silently marking me as an asshole. Not that I care, if someone hates me because of this they probably wouldn't have been worth being friends with in the first place.
People recognise it as a valid point, mostly. There will be some genuine narcissist types who get giddy at the thought of this sort of thing earning them likes, but on the whole I think things like the profile picture changes are just a fairly natural approach to trying to process this sort of attack. Most people aren't thinking it's genuinely significant, it's just a "jesus, this was bad" statement that everybody knows is superfluous but ultimately just human nature to repeat. We saw it on here with grindots before we all got too cool to do more than two in a row.
Anyway, I find it seriously hard to believe any of this lot would have gone out with their genuine passport on them.
Boom-Boom
14-11-2015, 11:39 PM
The three terroists who went to the football match only managed to kill one person. Can you imagine the mayhem had they gained access to the ground?
Lewis
14-11-2015, 11:40 PM
If you can't handle Spoonsky at his worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve him at his best.
I've just posted: "There are ways to show solidarity. Clicking a button on Facebook is not one of them." Probably going to get destroyed but wahey.
You really are a modern day hero.
You really are a modern day hero.
He really is, or just that socially inept kid at school that fades out of existence, either way, hero.
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 12:51 AM
Is just me that find strange a passport being found near a suicide bomber? Did he need to show the passport to the 40 virgins?
More important and the guy that do the passports in Syria to Europe ASAP! My passport got one visit to the beach and now is a problem in every airport. This one exploded himself, the guy needs dna to identify himself but the passport is legible?!
Andrew
15-11-2015, 01:23 AM
God I hate Facebook, Mrs uses it though and got into a bit of a flap earlier tonight when nearly everyone on her friends list started posting a link to a Wales Online article about a suspected terror attack being foiled in Cardiff City center and Bridgend designer outlet.
All the comments were "oh my god, it's happening here now, close the borders enough is enough"
In everyone's mass hysteria they failed to realise that the said article was originally published in 2010....
That's the thing, we're not. We're a pretty decent group compared to most of the world's cretins.
A lesser dickhead is still a dickhead.
I'm also not sure about you elevating yourself. We all read your pump trumpet post.
Waffdon
15-11-2015, 02:12 AM
Liked this:
http://i.imgur.com/A54zJB4.jpg
mugbull
15-11-2015, 04:37 AM
Isn't this just stupid from the IS? They have to know that the backlash will be huge, and that they won't survive in their current state for much longer
Spoonsky
15-11-2015, 04:44 AM
If you can't handle Spoonsky at his worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve him at his best.
:D
I am glad I posted it, because it led to a nice conversation. I probably got more stick for it on here than on Facebook. I also basically plagiarized your point about the Ankara bombings and that's on 39 likes, so maybe we should go all in on a controversial TTH Facebook page. We could call it ThinkNow.
Boom-Boom
15-11-2015, 06:41 AM
There has been some large terror attacks recently.
- Tunisia beach massacare
- Russian Plane
- The bomb during the demonstration in Turkey
- Charlie Hebdo
Shindig
15-11-2015, 07:35 AM
Isn't this just stupid from the IS? They have to know that the backlash will be huge, and that they won't survive in their current state for much longer
What constitutes survival to them?
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 08:15 AM
Isn't this just stupid from the IS? They have to know that the backlash will be huge, and that they won't survive in their current state for much longer
No the strategy is based on the idiots reacting exactly like they planned. It seems to be working.
Apparently daesh ( yes I agree with this trend) has announced that they have many militants between the refugees... And people don't understand the strategy!! Yeah its normal terror organizations to announce how they arrive a target. A group known for his secret actions announce to the world how they will act! How idiot can someone be to believe in this?
niko_cee
15-11-2015, 08:24 AM
I noticed X-Factor had to make changes in the wake of these shootings which got me to thinking which would be the most inappropriate song IN THE CURRENT CLIMATE. I eventually settled on Nancy Sinatra's Bang Bang, which, apparently, was one of the songs they had to change. Next guess would have been Panic, although the fit wouldn't have been as good.
John Arne
15-11-2015, 08:31 AM
Panic at the Disco?
Shindig
15-11-2015, 08:32 AM
Hit Me With Your Best Shot.
Bernanke
15-11-2015, 09:05 AM
Paris Is Burning
Haven't listened to that in ages actually.
simon
15-11-2015, 09:17 AM
*Screenshot about people in Kenya being shot six months ago*
This is fucking boring. I'm not sure whether I'm meant to be so outraged that everytime a bomb goes off I link a news article to my Facebook and change my profile picture, or whether I should just not care at all about what's happened in France and ignore the whole subject.
I'm not a hypocrite because I take more interest in a news story about a massive terrorist attack in France over one in Kenya six months ago. In fact the likes of the people posting about this fucking Kenya attack now are the most hypocritical seeing as they've quite clearly scoured the internet for an article like this in some batshit attempt to try and display a double standard. When this attack in Kenya actually happened where were they then?
Magic
15-11-2015, 09:23 AM
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=52b_1447549990
Beginning of concert shooting.
Magic
15-11-2015, 09:27 AM
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=256_1447523826
Cops with pistol v lunatic with AK.
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 09:32 AM
Wtf? I truly hope that wasn't special forces. Looks like the most disorganized forces ever!
Bernanke
15-11-2015, 09:36 AM
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=52b_1447549990
Beginning of concert shooting.
Okay, none of these other videos have gotten to me, but that's fucked up.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 09:38 AM
Okay, none of these other videos have gotten to me, but that's fucked up.
Yep same. There's definitely something about that one. So instant.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 09:39 AM
Just seen a Facebook campaign to get Eagles of Death Metal to number 1 in the charts :face:
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 09:42 AM
I heard for some time ago that metal concerts create no problems opposite to rap concerts.
By old twat Saint :D
Disco
15-11-2015, 09:42 AM
Wtf? I truly hope that wasn't special forces. Looks like the most disorganized forces ever!
They look like they have shotguns and pistols, up against someone with an AK or similar, their job is to pin him down until a markman arrives.
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 09:43 AM
They look like they have shotguns and pistols, up against someone with an AK or similar, their job is to pin him down until a markman arrives.
Clearly they had no plan before he started to shoot. The run to safety was a embarrassment and evidence they had no plan b.
Magic
15-11-2015, 09:44 AM
They were helping a civilian escape you clown.
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 09:47 AM
They were helping a civilian escape you clown.
I see a bunch of police man running for cover. Each one by himself.
Disco
15-11-2015, 09:49 AM
Clearly they had no plan before he started to shoot. The run to safety was a embarrassment and evidence they had no plan b.
There is no plan b, the only thing to do is pin the gunman down and evacuate the area, what else would you like them to do call in Jason Statham?
Dquincy
15-11-2015, 09:55 AM
Reading these last few pages...
Com'on chaps.
My wife just updated her profile pic; but for maximum irony she did it to a holiday picture of her wearing a Fedora in Spain.
At least I am pretending it was ironic.
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 09:57 AM
There is no plan b, the only thing to do is pin the gunman down and evacuate the area, what else would you like them to do call in Jason Statham?
I am not basing on movies. I have seen many live hostage situations and the first thing to do is to get near using the near protection wall or to use bullet proof shields like the Romans used to do. This was pure amateur move. You clearly see someone with authority giving directions afterwards which is a proof of how amateurish this was coordinated.
Dquincy
15-11-2015, 09:59 AM
Would you call yourself a hostage expert? In the Samuel Jackson mould?
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 10:04 AM
Would you call yourself a hostage expert? In the Samuel Jackson mould?
No, I don't call myself. I would end in a psychiatric Institute.
Dquincy
15-11-2015, 10:07 AM
No, I don't call myself. I would end in a psychiatric Institute.
I see you more in a Broadmoor type of institution.
On a separate matter, anyone see that burka wearing lady try to stab a security guard the other day? Nut-bag.
Samadini
15-11-2015, 10:09 AM
Surprised to not see the death toll rise over night, isn't there around 100 critically injured?
The QE Peter Hitchins and QE Douglas Murray are on Sunday morning live now.
Mazuuurk
15-11-2015, 10:19 AM
This is all so weird to me because back when I was living in Paris I was working in that neighbourhood and always going out there, most of my friends lived there, etc, right around where one of the attacks were. I'm pretty sure I've been to Bataclan at some point, and/or maybe some other of the places they hit.
It was ages ago (although every time I go to Paris I tend to revisit that area) , but it still just gives me this eerie feeling that this sort of thing is creeping into our lives more and more. Not so rational, of course.
Angelsaint
15-11-2015, 10:20 AM
I see you more in a Broadmoor type of institution.
On a separate matter, anyone see that burka wearing lady try to stab a security guard the other day? Nut-bag.
Cute of you assuming I knew what broadmoor was. The imperialism in you never leaves.
Yes I Googled it. Now I know.
Is it normal for a member of the police to carry around a shotgun? Because that's awesome. :D
Chris Morris tweets
@KayBurley's https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/665807478060392448?s=08
Magic
15-11-2015, 10:25 AM
Not so useful against an assault rifle...
Giggles
15-11-2015, 10:29 AM
Chris Morris tweets
@KayBurley's https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/665807478060392448?s=08
Jesus Christ. Is that real?
Magic
15-11-2015, 10:29 AM
Chris Morris tweets
@KayBurley's https://twitter.com/KayBurley/status/665807478060392448?s=08
Someone retweeted that so I just saw it. Mental.
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 10:50 AM
http://i67.tinypic.com/2a8oiu0.png
This is fucking boring. I'm not sure whether I'm meant to be so outraged that everytime a bomb goes off I link a news article to my Facebook and change my profile picture, or whether I should just not care at all about what's happened in France and ignore the whole subject.
I'm not a hypocrite because I take more interest in a news story about a massive terrorist attack in France over one in Kenya six months ago. In fact the likes of the people posting about this fucking Kenya attack now are the most hypocritical seeing as they've quite clearly scoured the internet for an article like this in some batshit attempt to try and display a double standard. When this attack in Kenya actually happened where were they then?
Indeed. People of Colour is such a hateful phrase as well.
If "Coloured" is an unacceptable term, how the fuck can that be ok?
John Arne
15-11-2015, 10:52 AM
Surely everybody is a person of colour?
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 10:57 AM
Really interesting watching the Sunday Supplement on this.
Euro 2016 must be a massive target now and everyone at Wembley singing the French anthem on Tuesday will be amazing. Properly good tribute that and one done without disrupting the flow of anything.
ItalAussie
15-11-2015, 10:58 AM
Indeed. People of Colour is such a hateful phrase as well.
If "Coloured" is an unacceptable term, how the fuck can that be ok?
I think the intended implication was the acknowledgement that they are people first. Rather than "coloured" and without personhood.
How well it works is open to question, but the intentions are good.
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 11:01 AM
I think the intended implication was the acknowledgement that they are people first. Rather than "coloured" and without personhood.
How well it works is open to question, but the intentions are good.
It just sounds so horribly wanky and patronising. The sort of thing dreamt of by a committee of absolute cunts.
niko_cee
15-11-2015, 11:01 AM
That Kenya thing happened in April didn't it? Oh, that's the point.
It was, quite mischeiviously, on the related stories on the BBC sidebar though.
Magic
15-11-2015, 11:02 AM
#whitelivesmatter
ItalAussie
15-11-2015, 11:04 AM
It just sounds so horribly wanky and patronising. The sort of thing dreamt of by a committee of absolute cunts.
There's no committee on not being a dick with language. Be rather nice if there were. They might have come up with something that rolls off the tongue a little more smoothly.
Dquincy
15-11-2015, 11:05 AM
Really interesting watching the Sunday Supplement on this.
Euro 2016 must be a massive target now and everyone at Wembley singing the French anthem on Tuesday will be amazing. Properly good tribute that and one done without disrupting the flow of anything.
Yeah, Tuesday night will be good, glad they've made the right decision to proceed with it.
On a side note, I bloody love the French national anthem. I like my classical music.
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 11:06 AM
Oh and I'm off to the O2 to watch the Masters Tennis on Friday and my mate that bought the tickets has received an email with a mahoosive list of changes to security procedures.
No drinks now allowed in was perhaps the strangest one. Thank god for that one. Made me feel really safe now that.
Dquincy
15-11-2015, 11:07 AM
That Kenya thing happened in April didn't it? Oh, that's the point.
It was, quite mischeiviously, on the related stories on the BBC sidebar though.
Surely the Paris attack resonates with us more as we are closer to France both geographically and society wise. Is that such a bad thing? Is that racist? Nah.
Magic
15-11-2015, 11:10 AM
Do I care what happened in a corrupt African hell hole I'll never visit? You can say it on here. Will I visit Paris? Probably yes. Will I visit any part of Kenya? No probably not which is unfortunate as it's one of the most breathtakingly beautiful places on earth. Its all tragic but taking more interest in something that's personally more relevant to you isn't racist.
Bernanke
15-11-2015, 11:12 AM
Surely the Paris attack resonates with us more as we are closer to France both geographically and society wise. Is that such a bad thing? Is that racist? Nah.
The amount of twats changing their profile pics to Lebanese and Syrian flags on Facebook in order to make a point about this is aggravating me a hundred times more than all the French flags. No, I don't care as much if 40 people died in a car bombing of a Baghdad market, now fuck off.
I think it's a mistake to go ahead with the friendly. England are awful to watch.
niko_cee
15-11-2015, 11:14 AM
I see the Donald has had his say.
There's something incredibly perverse about using one terrorist attack to raise awareness of another.
Jimmy Floyd
15-11-2015, 11:16 AM
I think it's a mistake to go ahead with the friendly. England are awful to watch.
It's the best we can do to cheer the French up.
Really interesting watching the Sunday Supplement on this.
Euro 2016 must be a massive target now and everyone at Wembley singing the French anthem on Tuesday will be amazing. Properly good tribute that and one done without disrupting the flow of anything.
I was thinking about Euro 2016; there can surely be no doubt that they have planned to attack the tournament. Daft as it sounds it might be a bad thing that they didn't get into the stadium on Friday night because you can be certain that they will be thinking more intelligently about how to do so now next summer. There are going to be so many soft targets. The bars and restaurants will be packed and it wouldn't take much to wander into a fan park with a suicide vest on.
I think I've said this before but I'm surprised that nobody has done something similar in a packed shopping centre or football ground here. I've never seen anybody checked going into a Leicester game and there are more than 30,000 people sat there for most games. I'm glad about that, obviously - I don't want frisking as I go about my hobby. There's that freedom/security line again.
Perhaps that these (easy on the face of it) things haven't happened suggests that the threat isn't really that great. Sure, it's there (and clearly much more so in France for a variety of reasons) but not enough to have me nervously glancing at the group of muslims who it behind me at the match.
I see the Donald has had his say.
He made a gun control comment after the Charlie Hebdo attacks which the some French Ambassador replied to in the mistaken belief that it was a reference to these attacks. It was still a shit comment to make after Charlie Hebdo, though.
Jimmy Floyd
15-11-2015, 11:22 AM
If there was a sort of visceral threat of it happening every day then we'd be rounding up Muslims and shipping them off to prison camps without trial. As it is there are just enough nutcases about that we have to at least be very vigilant.
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 11:23 AM
It hasn't happened because no one's tried to attack a football stadium before (like you, I don't get why not, it'd be like shooting/blowing up fish in a barrel).
The journos on the Sunday Supplement were advocating airport style security at grounds after this. Which will suck donkey dick.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 11:23 AM
I'd leave/move/ask to have them removed. It's got to the stage now that staying alive is more important than being seen to be politically correct.
The journos on the Sunday Supplement are all know-nothing dickheads so I wouldn't pay any attention to their drivel.
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 11:27 AM
I'd leave/move/ask to have them removed. It's got to the stage now that staying alive is more important than being seen to be politically correct.
I was walking back from the pub last night when a massive bang went off (twats with fireworks), but when I turned round to look a chap who was neither white/pink nor a person of colour said to me "It's alright mate, I'm not one of them" and we had a good lol about it.
I hope he remembers me when he's radicalised and shooting children and women in a shopping centre.
The Egyptian passport they found belongs to one of the victims. It's going to turn out that they're all home grown, isn't it? I'm interested to know if the 'refugee' one is a French bloke returning from Syria. It seems the most likely scenario to me. Also, what the fuck is up with Belgium? It sounds like it's full of islamic mentalists.
EDIT: Ah, he was French. I didn't realise he was the one they'd already identified.
Bernanke
15-11-2015, 11:41 AM
Belgium has the highest amount of IS-exports as well don't they? Even in absolute numbers?
Davgooner
15-11-2015, 11:42 AM
Yev's taken this well, hasn't he?
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 11:49 AM
Yev's taken this well, hasn't he?
The whole thing is relentlessly depressing, I'll admit.
randomlegend
15-11-2015, 11:58 AM
We're meant to be going to Belgium for New Year. Not feeling quite so excited for it any more :moop:
Giggles
15-11-2015, 12:00 PM
How close are they to chemical weapons and the like? I'd imagine somewhere like North Korea would sell to them without any issue.
Bernanke
15-11-2015, 12:02 PM
How close are they to chemical weapons and the like?
Belgium? Probably a few years away still.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 12:04 PM
Belgium? Probably a few years away still.
Excellent news.
The best part about the 'what about Lebanon/somewhere else?' cunts is that none of them where posting about these incidents when they occurred, yet now they pretend to be the better person by riding that high horse. Bunch of fucking wankers.
Shindig
15-11-2015, 12:29 PM
How close are they to chemical weapons and the like? I'd imagine somewhere like North Korea would sell to them without any issue.
Why? That's never been North Korea's fight. They're more bothered about their neighbours.
Dquincy
15-11-2015, 12:32 PM
The journos on the Sunday Supplement are all know-nothing dickheads so I wouldn't pay any attention to their drivel.
Agreed. Whilst they may know more than me, they come across as self righteous goons who think their opinion is fact.
Lewis
15-11-2015, 12:33 PM
I reckon chemical weapons are a waste of time for these groups. They would probably scare people a bit more for about a week, but the effort you would have to go to to acquire/make them (the good ones like anthrax at least) would almost certainly get you caught.
Dquincy
15-11-2015, 12:36 PM
Just saw Madonna on tv making a statement during her concert. It made for very uncomfortable viewing. Don't get me wrong she is likely being sincere, but it still made me cringe.
Henry
15-11-2015, 01:36 PM
Arrests in Belgium.
Showtrial? :drool:
Bernanke
15-11-2015, 01:46 PM
Picture from inside Bataclan courtesy of Daily Mail:
http://i.imgur.com/eu77R8q.jpg
Graphic warning etc.
There Is Only One Way to Defeat ISIS (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a39727/paris-attacks-middle-eastern-oligarchies/)
Arrests in Belgium.
Showtrial? :drool:
So very boring.
Lewis
15-11-2015, 02:31 PM
Fuck the Saudi Arabians alright, but lol at the naivety of 'If that endangers your political position back home, that's your problem, not ours'. Yeah mate. I'm sure all the fall-out will be self-contained whilst they decide which voting system to use and whether to have all-women shortlists.
I don't see what we can realistically do about it.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 02:39 PM
I don't see what we can realistically do about it.
Pfft and you call yourself a loyalist. The correct answer is to put them all on a boat and then close the borders.
That's your solution to Saudi funding of terrorist organisations?
Giggles
15-11-2015, 02:40 PM
That's your solution to Saudi funding of terrorist organisations?
It's the solution to everything.
John Arne
15-11-2015, 02:55 PM
Sky News are still running this as 'BREAKING NEWS'.
Alan Shearer The 2nd
15-11-2015, 04:26 PM
Nine conclusions not to draw from the Paris attacks
http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/nine-conclusions-not-to-draw-from-the-paris-attacks/
Douglas Murray hitting the nail on the head as usual.
Disco
15-11-2015, 04:31 PM
Number 5 is a wankers argument, it only holds any water if you poll non-Muslims and then compare the results.
Alan Shearer The 2nd
15-11-2015, 04:35 PM
You reckon a quarter of non-Muslims would have any sympathy with the Charlie Hebdo attackers?
Disco
15-11-2015, 04:40 PM
You reckon a quarter of non-Muslims would have any sympathy with the Charlie Hebdo attackers?
I've no idea, but one stat is meaningless without the other.
Alan Shearer The 2nd
15-11-2015, 04:42 PM
No idea? Really?
Disco
15-11-2015, 04:48 PM
Well I haven't done the poll so....
The point is you're misrepresenting the data when you only show half the picture. The fact that one group of people sympathises with a particular issue is only news if it's divergent from other groups.
That piece could have used a proof-reader.
'A huge number of nonsense goes around', 'must be only welcomed as the only'. Take your time, Douglas. I'm sure nobody else will beat you to the publication of such a meatless non-article.
Lewis
15-11-2015, 04:56 PM
Dan Hodges wrote the best response (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11434695/Over-a-quarter-of-British-Muslims-have-sympathy-for-the-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.-That-is-far-too-many.html) to that polling at the time.
Imagine if the BBC had commissioned a poll in the wake of the murder of Stephen Lawrence, and that poll had found 27 per cent of white Britons agreed with the statement “I have some sympathy for the motives behind his stabbing”. Imagine if, in an additional finding, 32 per cent of white Briton’s refused to endorse the statement “acts of unprovoked violence against black men can never be justified”. Rightly, there would be outrage at those findings. And the BBC would be leading the charge. The focus, correctly, would be on the large number of people who expressed sympathy with the attacks. We would certainly not have religious propaganda masquerading as news analysis in the middle of the BBC’s report.
But yeah; it could be that even more non-Muslims agree they deserved to die.
igor_balis
15-11-2015, 04:57 PM
That Douglas Murray article is proper sub-buzzfeed clickbait bullshit. You won't believe these 9 weird tricks that will end Islamic terrorism! Just needed some animated gifs from Community and it would perfect.
Oh, speaking of buzzfeed, my mate who does admin shit in the houses of parliament says they now have a dedicated office next to all the other papers and stuff. Sometimes I can understand why people hate the west.
Lewis
15-11-2015, 04:59 PM
To go back to Facebook narcissism, my friend's wife has crafted a spectacular status about how anxious she is about going to 'Europe' tomorrow (you're going to Prague, you stupid American twat), and it's getting loads of supportive feedback.
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 05:00 PM
Jesus Disco. What sort of apologist bollocks is that?
Yevrah
15-11-2015, 05:01 PM
To go back to Facebook narcissism, my friend's wife has crafted a spectacular status about how anxious she is about going to 'Europe' tomorrow (you're going to Prague, you stupid American twat), and it's getting loads of supportive feedback.
"It'll be fine hun x"
Disco
15-11-2015, 05:08 PM
Jesus Disco. What sort of apologist bollocks is that?
It's not, take the issue at hand out of it and it's just statistical wankery being used to further one side of an argument. More muslims may indeed sympathise with these motives but it's a meaningless stat unless you actually compare that to everyone else, and seeing data used in that way should make you question why.
Alan Shearer The 2nd
15-11-2015, 05:11 PM
That Douglas Murray article is proper sub-buzzfeed clickbait bullshit. You won't believe these 9 weird tricks that will end Islamic terrorism! Just needed some animated gifs from Community and it would perfect.
Oh, speaking of buzzfeed, my mate who does admin shit in the houses of parliament says they now have a dedicated office next to all the other papers and stuff. Sometimes I can understand why people hate the west.
What points are wrong? I've seen all the 'nothing to with Islam' bollocks all over social media as usual.
Have any world leaders said that this time?
Buzzfeed actually pay proper journalists these days. They've done good. Here are 7 reasons why, number 5 will blow your mind...
Magic
15-11-2015, 05:43 PM
Picture from inside Bataclan courtesy of Daily Mail:
http://i.imgur.com/eu77R8q.jpg
Graphic warning etc.
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=06d_1447585266
Unedited.
Waffdon
15-11-2015, 05:49 PM
I was thinking about Euro 2016; there can surely be no doubt that they have planned to attack the tournament. Daft as it sounds it might be a bad thing that they didn't get into the stadium on Friday night because you can be certain that they will be thinking more intelligently about how to do so now next summer. There are going to be so many soft targets. The bars and restaurants will be packed and it wouldn't take much to wander into a fan park with a suicide vest on.
I think I've said this before but I'm surprised that nobody has done something similar in a packed shopping centre or football ground here. I've never seen anybody checked going into a Leicester game and there are more than 30,000 people sat there for most games. I'm glad about that, obviously - I don't want frisking as I go about my hobby. There's that freedom/security line again.
Perhaps that these (easy on the face of it) things haven't happened suggests that the threat isn't really that great. Sure, it's there (and clearly much more so in France for a variety of reasons) but not enough to have me nervously glancing at the group of muslims who it behind me at the match.
Frisked all the time in Scotland.
Magic
15-11-2015, 05:59 PM
Another shooting at the Paris memorial? ?
Take a look at @mickmas1's Tweet: https://twitter.com/mickmas1/status/665950177522556928?s=09
CNN are on it. People running away from something 'in panic' near the memorial, apparently.
Hopefully just a bit jumpy.
John Arne
15-11-2015, 06:05 PM
False alarm.
randomlegend
15-11-2015, 06:05 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-34825270
People thought they heard gunfire but it appears to be a false alarm.
Let's hope so.
Davgooner
15-11-2015, 06:06 PM
A Citroen backfired and shit went mental.
Lewis
15-11-2015, 06:12 PM
In the clip I've seen a bald geezer doesn't even flinch. Yeah, he's got nothing left to lose after his hair, but still. :cool:
Dquincy
15-11-2015, 06:15 PM
To go back to Facebook narcissism, my friend's wife has crafted a spectacular status about how anxious she is about going to 'Europe' tomorrow (you're going to Prague, you stupid American twat), and it's getting loads of supportive feedback.
:D
The chances of another attack within a day or so of the original attack must be so slim, based on the planning these things must take and the increased security in the immediate aftermath.
Davgooner
15-11-2015, 06:32 PM
In the clip I've seen a bald geezer doesn't even flinch. Yeah, he's got nothing left to lose after his hair, but still. :cool:
Quality display of fortitude amongst a sea of fleeing French. You can only imagine what he thought of the twat who decked it whilst running through the tributes.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 06:34 PM
Ah Facebook...
They're not happy in Gaza ..
They're not happy in Egypt ..
They're not happy in Libya ..
They're not happy in Morocco ..
They're not happy in Iran ..
They're not happy in Iraq ..
They're not happy in Yemen ...
They're not happy in Afghanistan ...
They're not happy in Pakistan ..
They're not happy in Syria ..
They're not happy in Lebanon ...
SO.. WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY?
They're happy in Australia ..
They're happy in Canada ..
They're happy in England ..
They're happy in France ..
They're happy in Italy ..
They're happy in Germany ..
They're happy in Sweden ..
They're happy in the USA ..
They're happy in Norway ..
They're happy in Holland ..
They're happy in Denmark ..
Basically, they're happy in every country that is not Muslim and unhappy in every country that is!
AND WHO DO THEY BLAME?
Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN !
AND THEN- They want to change those countries to be like, THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY!
Excuse me, but I can't help wondering...
How frigging dumb can you get?
Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim Terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.
Lets have a look at the evidence:
- No Christmas
- No television
- No nude women
- No football
- No pork chops
- No hot dogs
- No burgers
- No beer
- No bacon
- Rags for clothes
- Towels for hats
- Constant wailing from some bloke in a tower
- More than one wife
- More than one mother-in-law
- You can't shave
- Your wife can't shave
- You can't wash off the smell of donkeys
- You cook over burning camel shit
- Your wife is picked by someone else for you
- and your wife smells worse than your donkey
- Then they tell them that "when they die, it all gets better"???
Well No Shit Sherlock!....
It's not like it could get much worse!
Davgooner
15-11-2015, 06:35 PM
Jesus.
In the clip I've seen a bald geezer doesn't even flinch. Yeah, he's got nothing left to lose after his hair, but still. :cool:
The video where people are falling over the flowers and candles while he just stands there?
There's a quality video of one of the arrests taking place while a Bam Bam Bigelow lookalike with a machine gun stands guard.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 06:37 PM
Jesus.
It gets really special in the latter part.
leedsrevolution
15-11-2015, 06:38 PM
Why wouldn't they be able to eat burgers? They have maccys in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan apparently.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 06:43 PM
3 of my friends have shared that so far :face:
leedsrevolution
15-11-2015, 06:46 PM
- No hot dogs
Lol at this. Just imagining them getting banned in England and everyone strapping bombs to themselves and offing themselves in Tesco.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 06:52 PM
No pork chops and it's on.
'Towels for hats' is quality. There's a much longer version of that going around. The one with 'Christians and Sikhs? NO PROBLEM'.
Spoonsky
15-11-2015, 06:57 PM
http://i67.tinypic.com/2a8oiu0.png
This is fucking boring. I'm not sure whether I'm meant to be so outraged that everytime a bomb goes off I link a news article to my Facebook and change my profile picture, or whether I should just not care at all about what's happened in France and ignore the whole subject.
I'm not a hypocrite because I take more interest in a news story about a massive terrorist attack in France over one in Kenya six months ago. In fact the likes of the people posting about this fucking Kenya attack now are the most hypocritical seeing as they've quite clearly scoured the internet for an article like this in some batshit attempt to try and display a double standard. When this attack in Kenya actually happened where were they then?
:cab:
That's a friend of mine (you'll all be shocked to hear). Time to get off Facebook for a while I think, it's gotten too much for me.
leedsrevolution
15-11-2015, 06:58 PM
Any false flag accusations doing the rounds yet? :drool:
It's taken the nutters a day or so to mobilise, but this is fucking lovely.
http://i63.tinypic.com/2h6twf5.jpg
Posted with the following comment.
Damn, one unlucky girl.. Seems she was in Paris last night.. Sandy Hook during the school shooting and Boston during the marathon bombings... Coincidence or professional paid government actor?
leedsrevolution
15-11-2015, 07:05 PM
:happycry:
I don't even think they look alike. Beautiful.
Bob Sacamano
15-11-2015, 07:19 PM
Any false flag accusations doing the rounds yet? :drool:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=301737
Enjoy.
Someone just posted a "Stop all immigration into the UK until ISIS is defeated" petition.
Bet that's Harold's 63rd attempt at the same petition.
Giggles
15-11-2015, 07:58 PM
Someone just posted a "Stop all immigration into the UK until ISIS is defeated" petition.
Bet that's Harold's 63rd attempt at the same petition.
Wouldn't forever have been easier for them to write?
:cab:
That's a friend of mine (you'll all be shocked to hear). Time to get off Facebook for a while I think, it's gotten too much for me.
He clearly screengrabbed it from his Facebook feed after you liked the post, you div.
Spoonsky
15-11-2015, 08:03 PM
He clearly screengrabbed it from his Facebook feed after you liked the post, you div.
I know, I wasn't expressing shock at some incredible coincidence (though it may have sounded like that), just that it's really, really weird to suddenly see it pop up on here.
simon
15-11-2015, 08:26 PM
I didn't realise it was a mate of yours, to be fair. I'll delete it if you want.
Waffdon
15-11-2015, 08:59 PM
Syria getting hit :drool:
I see the French are bombing the fuck out of Raqqa.
Davgooner
15-11-2015, 09:08 PM
According to Sky one of the suspects who they're now after was arrested yesterday but later released. :D / :face:
Alan Shearer The 2nd
15-11-2015, 09:09 PM
20 bombs on Raqqa.
Lewis
15-11-2015, 09:15 PM
The planes hit a jihadi recruitment centre, training camp and arms depot run by the group, according to the French defence ministry.
Shouldn't they have been doing that anyway?
According to Sky one of the suspects who they're now after was arrested yesterday but later released. :D / :face:
Yep. They stopped him at the Belgian border then let him go. Thick fuckers.
Shouldn't they have been doing that anyway?
It does make you wonder what people have been bombing for all this time.
Lewis
15-11-2015, 09:23 PM
Their manor in Belgium (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11997410/Paris-attackers-linked-to-Belgian-suburb-where-the-authorities-have-lost-control.html) sounds like a laugh (Tintin was Right).
Retaliatory strikes on Raqqa. You imagine more will come.
Lewis
15-11-2015, 09:26 PM
Good programme about spiders killing each other on BBC1, Fox, if you're still sleeping at night.
Davgooner
15-11-2015, 09:36 PM
Yep. They stopped him at the Belgian border then let him go. Thick fuckers.
This is the mob that returned downed pilots to the Germans in 1940 so they could have another pop.
Good programme about spiders killing each other on BBC1, Fox, if you're still sleeping at night.
Now there's a proper threat to my security.
Spoonsky
15-11-2015, 09:38 PM
I didn't realise it was a mate of yours, to be fair. I'll delete it if you want.
You might cover her name but I don't think it really matters, nobody here is enough of a dick for it to be a problem.
http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/paris-attacks-middle-easts-wars-arrive-europe/25934
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