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Adramelch
16-06-2024, 07:49 PM
Yeah and the Serbians might have played like shit, but they have a few players that can do some damage out of nowhere.

Pepe
16-06-2024, 07:49 PM
That corner kick lmao.

-james-
16-06-2024, 07:55 PM
Yev you just fetishise the misery tbh

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 07:57 PM
Yev you just fetishise the misery tbh

You're welcome to that take, I'd just like to enjoy watching an England team and if I don't enjoy it I'm going to say so - you'd have to be being noshed off by Rachel Riley to have enjoyed that first half. It was disjointed shit.

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 07:58 PM
Did Lineker just say Kane isn't dropping deep? He spent most of the lat 15 minutes half way in our own half.

niko_cee
16-06-2024, 07:58 PM
It's been so long since an England player felt like this. Early Rooney.

Yeah, hopefully his impetuosity isn't withered by age, or broken feet bones. Just sees the game on another level.


Shame the drugs Walker is on don't give him any decision-making ability.

If he has a brain, it is in his [probably massive] dick and nowhere else.


We've been abysmal. A proper rant is brewing.

Simmer down.

I missed Kane's touch. Bit gutted he got one. Was reminding me of an old firm game many years ago where I was trying to observe whether Didier Agathe ever used his left foot. Think it was the 89th minute before he did, which made all the paying attention extra galling.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 07:58 PM
And it's not just me. You can tell the BBC panel feel the same, they just have a responsibility to paint things in a good light. Hence all this nonsense about 'dominance'.

Jimmy Floyd
16-06-2024, 08:00 PM
The last 15 minutes were nonsense, first 30 pretty good.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:00 PM
We've not been great but it's hardly rant worthy. Oh Joe's back, awesome.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:02 PM
Harvey "confirmation bias" Yevrah.

Shindig
16-06-2024, 08:03 PM
Yev you just fetishise the misery tbh

Broom and Gloom.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:04 PM
Harvey "confirmation bias" Yevrah.

If you're happy with that first half and you think it's in keeping with a performance the favourites for the tournament should be giving then you crack on.

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:08 PM
Weirdly England look quite good in possession and poor without it. Normally the opposite with Southgate

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:09 PM
If you're happy with that first half and you think it's in keeping with a performance the favourites for the tournament should be giving then you crack on.

It'll be individual performances that will carry them to the final where they'll bottle it. Inevitable.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:09 PM
Weirdly England look quite good in possession and poor without it. Normally the opposite with Southgate

We've always been pretty good at passing sideways during his tenure.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:12 PM
If you're happy with that first half and you think it's in keeping with a performance the favourites for the tournament should be giving then you crack on.
There's a fairly big grey area between being delighted by a fluid, swashbuckling domination with us 4-0 up at first half, and thinking we've been abysmal. Its somewhere between the two - as Jimmy said, we were pretty good for the first thirty minutes, we're pretty comfortable, and went a bit disjointed before half time.

If the second half continues like the first ended we can talk, but it's just a really bizarre reaction to the first half.

Pepe
16-06-2024, 08:13 PM
If the second half continues like the first ended we can talk, but it's just a really bizarre reaction to the first half.

Looking a lot worse.

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:13 PM
The second half is currently significantly worse than the last 15 of the first.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:13 PM
If the second half continues like the first ended we can talk, but it's just a really bizarre reaction to the first half.

You can see how the land is laying with England, it's like the World's most unsubtle klaxon. And look how we've started this half.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:14 PM
The second half is currently significantly worse than the last 15 of the first.

Like I said, rant brewing.

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:16 PM
Get Eze on pronto. These high wingbacks are leaving them wide open.

Adramelch
16-06-2024, 08:16 PM
It's the 55th minute and the Greek commentator thinks England will make substitutions soon. Clearly hasn't watched England for about 8 years.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:16 PM
The idea that Harry Kane has gone rogue and decided to drop deep completely ignores the last 8 years of Sir Gareth's tenure. He's clearly doing it because he's been told to.

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:18 PM
Rice has been brilliant defensively doing the job for two people but can’t help but think a decent team will take advantage of it. Presume Southgate wouldn’t be doing this set up in a knock out match, mind

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:18 PM
That said about Kane, I'm pretty sure Gareth didn't tell TAA to adopt the Gerrard long ball role. So no idea what's going on there.

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:18 PM
Fuck me...

-james-
16-06-2024, 08:19 PM
Yev I kneel

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:21 PM
Tbf for all the moaning I do about yevrahs interpretation of years of different England teams, I will admit the combination of starting brightly then inexplicably getting really slow and sluggish, then whilst slowing the tempo to presumably ease a bit of pressure and get some control back, still giving the ball away with a totally pointless aimless long pass does feel like a very familiar story.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:21 PM
Honestly gents, when it comes to England don't doubt the Yev. We'll still probably win this, with one of our many talented forwards pulling something out of their arse/Serbia being wank, but yeah, we don't start brightly, fade massively and then somehow become a competent team later.

Sir Gareth will take Saka off in about 14 minutes as well.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:21 PM
Maybe I'm being yev-pilled after all

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:23 PM
Hope he bring Gallagher on rather than palmer

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-06-2024, 08:25 PM
Jovic is still gash.

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:25 PM
Make a fucking substitute you waistcoat nonce.

Ben
16-06-2024, 08:25 PM
Trent is a fucking liability. Gareth has spent far too much time listening to Klopp.

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:25 PM
That touch by Jovic :D

Shindig
16-06-2024, 08:26 PM
Awww, fuck sake. Gallagher.

7om
16-06-2024, 08:28 PM
Foden anonymous again in an England shirt. Get Eze on.

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:28 PM
Atleast he's an actual midfielder, I guess.

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:29 PM
I like how GARETH is consistent with making the England squad weaker than the sum of its parts. Such a boring nonce.

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:29 PM
Hope he bring Gallagher on rather than palmer

Good egg

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:29 PM
Foden anonymous again in an England shirt. Get Eze on.

This might be the most disappointing thing of all about how Southgate uses players, in that he can't even get 50% of what Guardiola gets out of Foden.

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:30 PM
Foden anonymous again in an England shirt. Get Eze on.

He'll eventually put Palmer on, despite Eze being absolutely electric last time he had an England shirt on.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:32 PM
That Gallager for TAA change might be the most proactive thing Southgate has ever done. Saw it wasn't working, despite deciding beforehand it would, and still changed it before the obligatory 75 minute mark.

Jimmy Floyd
16-06-2024, 08:33 PM
The retreat into their mental shells has been a Southgate constant, can't think that he asks them to do it, maybe it's a lack of in-game renewal from the coaching team leaving them listless.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:33 PM
Think it's time for Darius Vassell

-james-
16-06-2024, 08:34 PM
We'll score again.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:35 PM
The retreat into their mental shells has been a Southgate constant, can't think that he asks them to do it, maybe it's a lack of in-game renewal from the coaching team leaving them listless.

Maybe, but make no mistake, Sir Gareth will be absolutely fucking delighted with three points here, irrespective of the performance.

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:35 PM
The retreat into their mental shells has been a Southgate constant, can't think that he asks them to do it, maybe it's a lack of in-game renewal from the coaching team leaving them listless.

It's like watching Scotland but your players aren't fucking shite.

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:35 PM
Saka for Bowen ffs :D

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-06-2024, 08:35 PM
Honestly gents, when it comes to England don't doubt the Yev. We'll still probably win this, with one of our many talented forwards pulling something out of their arse/Serbia being wank, but yeah, we don't start brightly, fade massively and then somehow become a competent team later.

Sir Gareth will take Saka off in about 14 minutes as well.

14 exactly, lol.

Jimmy Floyd
16-06-2024, 08:35 PM
Think it's time for Darius Vassell

And here he comes!

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:35 PM
Bowen over Palmer :D

Pepe
16-06-2024, 08:35 PM
Sir Gareth will take Saka off in about 14 minutes as well.

:cool:

Boydy
16-06-2024, 08:36 PM
Saka off but Foden is still on the pitch?

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:36 PM
Sir Gareth will take Saka off in about 14 minutes as well.

Could I have put money on this?

7om
16-06-2024, 08:36 PM
Fuck me. I’m with Yev, that’s a trash sub.

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-06-2024, 08:36 PM
Kane doesn't miss that in a Bayern shirt.

Shindig
16-06-2024, 08:36 PM
To be fair, Saka's been pocketed this half.

-james-
16-06-2024, 08:37 PM
Saka for Bowen ffs :D

immediate impact

Danny
16-06-2024, 08:38 PM
Saka has been dreadful since half time but how he got hooked before Foden is baffling

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:38 PM
It's like watching Scotland but your players aren't fucking shite.

It is very much like that and it's really not ok.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:38 PM
Foden :D a

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:38 PM
Get Foden off immediately

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:39 PM
Trippier getting injured would be fucking hilarious with Southgate's squad selection, honestly

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:39 PM
Boden.

Ben
16-06-2024, 08:40 PM
Surely he trusts one of Eze, Palmer or Gordon to not be as useless as Foden for this last ten minutes? Lad has had a proper stinker.

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:40 PM
If Shearer mentions taking the sting out of the game again I'll scream.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:41 PM
Surely he trusts one of Eze, Palmer or Gordon to not be as useless as Foden for this last ten minutes? Lad has had a proper stinker.

He may do, but as has been established (Gallagher for TAA aside, which is a genuine outlier) he doesn't look at what's happening on the pitch when making his substitutions.

7om
16-06-2024, 08:44 PM
Celebrating defending a 1-0 lead over Serbia. We’re going to get royally bummed against anyone decent.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:44 PM
Celebrating defending a 1-0 lead over Serbia. We’re going to get royally bummed against anyone decent.

Not bummed, but we'll do just enough to lose.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:45 PM
Ye get Bellingham off nice one

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-06-2024, 08:45 PM
Foden still on :harold:

Boydy
16-06-2024, 08:46 PM
Bellingham off? Fuck me. If you were 3-0 up maybe but jesus christ.

Pepe
16-06-2024, 08:46 PM
Zizou a bit quiet on the 2nd half.

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:46 PM
Ye get Bellingham off nice one

That's like a 3-0 up get him a round of applause substitution. Mental under these circumstances.

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-06-2024, 08:46 PM
Also that's all subs done right? 3 sub WINDOWS used.

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:47 PM
Bellingham off? Fuck me. If you were 3-0 up maybe but jesus christ.

Lol.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:47 PM
I didn't have Bellingham off on the bingo card, still makes sense given he didn't do anything all season in the closing stages of games for Madrid. Saving him for the later rounds along with Saka no doubt.

7om
16-06-2024, 08:48 PM
We’ll be out in the quarters.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:48 PM
If Shearer mentions taking the sting out of the game again I'll scream.

Unlucky

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:49 PM
Unlucky

One more time before final whistle.

7om
16-06-2024, 08:49 PM
We seriously need to consider Watkins for Kane and Eze for Foden. We need more urgency and pace instead of this plodding shite.

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:49 PM
Not really sure why Serbia haven’t just went direct as fuck at this point. They aren’t creative enough to just be having all the possession. Stick it in the mixer on top of trippier

Jimmy Floyd
16-06-2024, 08:50 PM
We seriously need to consider Watkins for Kane and Eze for Foden. We need more urgency and pace instead of this plodding shite.

No chance Sir Harold is getting dropped, but we definitely need Eze/Palmer in for the next game.

If we can hang on here (I say hang on, Serbia haven't exactly created much), it'll be a good result and take the pressure off us in the group.

Pepe
16-06-2024, 08:51 PM
Not really sure why Serbia haven’t just went direct as fuck at this point. They aren’t creative enough to just be having all the possession. Stick it in the mixer on top of trippier

3rd place qualifier strategies.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:51 PM
We seriously need to consider Watkins for Kane and Eze for Foden. We need more urgency and pace instead of this plodding shite.

Kane would be fine if he were actually playing as a striker, but (on all available evidence so far) this dovetailing thing with Jude just doesn't work, albeit that isn't immediately obvious as Bellingham is so fucking good.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:51 PM
We seriously need to consider Watkins for Kane and Eze for Foden. We need more urgency and pace instead of this plodding shite.

Problem with starting Watkins is some poor random bloke on twitter called Ollie Watson getting racially abuse by dquincy when he misses a penalty or something

Magic
16-06-2024, 08:51 PM
Lol that meme face guy in the crowd again.

Ben
16-06-2024, 08:51 PM
How many fouls have Serbia committed here? :D

Jimmy Floyd
16-06-2024, 08:53 PM
Referee has been so good in this game. Now a big favourite for the final I would think.

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:54 PM
Referee has been far too whistle happy. Has blown for anything and everything

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:54 PM
it'll be a good result and take the pressure off us in the group.

No question it's a good result, but I'd rather be entertained with a bad one.

Pepe
16-06-2024, 08:54 PM
Referee has been so good in this game. Now a big favourite for the final I would think.


Referee has been far too whistle happy. Has blown for anything and everything

:D

Jimmy Floyd
16-06-2024, 08:55 PM
Referee has been far too whistle happy. Has blown for anything and everything

He's correctly blown for Serbia kicking England players throughout, because they are a bunch of steamheads with no self-discipline.

Adramelch
16-06-2024, 08:55 PM
The Serbs were fucking horrendous which also helped. That last break where he couldn't even go past the first defender with his cross was quite telling.

igor_balis
16-06-2024, 08:55 PM
No question it's a good result, but I'd rather be entertained with a bad one.

A reasonable take, but not in major tournaments Shirley

Spikey M
16-06-2024, 08:56 PM
Uninspiring as fuck, but a win is a win is a win is a win.

Jimmy Floyd
16-06-2024, 08:56 PM
The Serbs were fucking horrendous which also helped. That last break where he couldn't even go past the first defender was quite telling.

I thought they got it horribly wrong with the selection, should have gone just Vlahovic up and Tadic behind. They're probably too cowardly to drop Mitrovic though.

Boydy
16-06-2024, 08:56 PM
One man team.

Waffdon
16-06-2024, 08:56 PM
I’d be worried if Southgate realised Palmer is the way but thankfully he won’t. We move

Shindig
16-06-2024, 08:57 PM
Three points, clean sheet. Bosh.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 08:59 PM
A reasonable take, but not in major tournaments Shirley

I'm middle aged now, won't have that many left to experience and I've pretty much given up on us ever winning one of these, so yeah, given the choice I'd rather have enjoyed this game and seen us lose than what actually happened.

It's not as if we haven't got two more games against middle of the road shite to make up for it either.

Cesc knows we're wank.

Lewis
16-06-2024, 09:02 PM
Southgate writes his substitutions down the day before and makes them regardless of what happens. Ole Gunnar Binman used to do the same.

Raoul Duke
16-06-2024, 09:02 PM
How Foden stayed on the pitch there I don't know. He was bobbins throughout

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 09:02 PM
That stat about not winning the opening game for the first 9 tournaments but then doing so for these last two is such a misleading one. The tournament had 8 teams in it when I started watching it.

Yevrah
16-06-2024, 09:03 PM
Southgate writes his substitutions down the day before and makes them regardless of what happens. Ole Gunnar Binman used to do the same.

It's actually unbelievable that this is the case, but it really is, isn't it?

niko_cee
16-06-2024, 09:04 PM
Trent is a fucking liability. Gareth has spent far too much time listening to Klopp.

Did Klopp ever play him in midfield? The only reason to do so seems to be so he can maybe have a pop from range, which is fair enough, but maybe not something to build a strategy around. Although as if we have a strategy.

Our left side was so bad the whole game. Another classic Foden performance. Shame Trippier didn't get injured.

Gallagher and Bowen as the first subs for ENERGY is just everything that is wrong with modern football. Zero quality.

Luke Emia
16-06-2024, 09:05 PM
First 30 minutes decent, last hour not very good at all.

Sums up Southgate really in that he will get you par across a tournament but but as soon as you come up against anyone decent we will most likely lose, when you look at what came before him that’s not terrible but you do feel that the team is better than he is getting from it. Basically he’s an English Sven who had the team pretty much doing the same thing.

Jimmy Floyd
16-06-2024, 09:05 PM
He brought Bowen on to defend, not to attack.

phonics
16-06-2024, 09:06 PM
This might be the most disappointing thing of all about how Southgate uses players, in that he can't even get 50% of what Guardiola gets out of Foden.

He’s actually not that good.

Luke Emia
16-06-2024, 09:06 PM
He brought Bowen on to defend, not to attack.

The issue being the attacking plan for the last 20 minutes was to hoof the ball up the field.

Shindig
16-06-2024, 09:12 PM
I'm middle aged now, won't have that many left to experience and I've pretty much given up on us ever winning one of these, so yeah, given the choice I'd rather have enjoyed this game and seen us lose than what actually happened.


You're 40-odd, not 70.

Lewis
16-06-2024, 09:17 PM
It's actually unbelievable that this is the case, but it really is, isn't it?

It's also why the bigger name always stays on. I don't think Ole Gunnar Binman subbed Rashford once.

Lewis
16-06-2024, 10:27 PM
1802346826286223558

:lol:

Pepe
16-06-2024, 10:39 PM
What tf are they saying?

niko_cee
16-06-2024, 10:40 PM
Tottenham get battered everywhere they go.

Spikey M
17-06-2024, 08:01 AM
After his Jew baiting, this is what Kiko was up to.

1802385128397660326?t=CIxk7MDkZAp5J3CoZXtLgg&s=19

Conflicting reports on whether it's Serbs and Albanians or Serbs and the English, but I'm sure there's some Albanian in our boy somewhere so the charge STANDS.

Shindig
17-06-2024, 08:16 AM
There's clearly an English voice in there.

Ben
17-06-2024, 08:26 AM
And a big England flag on the back of one of their shirts.

However, it could be English lads staying outside to just look hard whilst the Albanians were the ones to pile in.

Baz
17-06-2024, 08:54 AM
Watched at the pub so only half-watched really but Guehi looked a bit of a don. Like it was his 40th England cap, not his *checks notes* 12th.

As ever, Bellingham the best player on the pitch. Nice of England to play with 10 men and not bother playing a striker too.

Kikó
17-06-2024, 09:09 AM
Shitloads of Belgians in town for later. Already making a racket.

Jimmy Floyd
17-06-2024, 09:23 AM
Wimbledon doesn't start for a fortnight.

Kikó
17-06-2024, 09:27 AM
Balls.

phonics
17-06-2024, 11:42 AM
I saw a Barney Ronay piece and wondered. "Weird, I haven't seen anything he's written in years." Only to find out he apparently blocked me about half a decade ago for saying cricket is shit.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 01:31 PM
Cracking finish

Jimmy Floyd
17-06-2024, 01:36 PM
Yet another goal conceded by industrial shitmunchers trying to play it out from the back. Just hoof it up to the big man.

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 02:13 PM
Lolnin.

Serj
17-06-2024, 02:15 PM
Yeah, that might be it for him in the tournament.

Baz
17-06-2024, 02:18 PM
As bad as Ukraine are, Romania look pretty good.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 02:25 PM
Kepa must be hilariously bad to be behind Lunin in the pecking order

Lofty
17-06-2024, 02:27 PM
Ukraine were fancied to do alright weren't they?

John Arne
17-06-2024, 02:43 PM
Zinchenko is infuriating. Every time he gets the ball he turns back and plays an easy 10yd pass to the centre back. Kills all momentum, kills every attack. Haven't seen his move forward with the ball once.

John Arne
17-06-2024, 02:46 PM
Have Ukraine not made their subs at 4 different times? I thought there was a limit of 3?

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 02:51 PM
You've got to imagine that's the Ukrainians done.

Surely going to lose against the Belgians and they wont be able to overturn the negative GD they'll have against Slovakia.

CJay
17-06-2024, 02:52 PM
I like the look of Romania. Like the Argentina of the Carpathians.

Bernanke
17-06-2024, 03:08 PM
Yet another goal conceded by industrial shitmunchers trying to play it out from the back. Just hoof it up to the big man.

This has almost become a meme in the Swedish league this season, the amount of terrible teams that try to start play in their own box and then just royally fuck it up time and time again. The modern game is so dumb.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 03:16 PM
That Belgian defence makes England’s look like prime Italy.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 04:09 PM
Someone gotta be making a killing on early first half goals

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 04:20 PM
Kante starting for France later :cool:

Serj
17-06-2024, 04:35 PM
Lobotka is bossing this so far.

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 04:41 PM
Slovakia looking nifty.

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 04:41 PM
I don't know about half the players in that Belgian XI.

Dark Soldier
17-06-2024, 04:44 PM
Lukaku still stealing a living

Jimmy Floyd
17-06-2024, 05:00 PM
Time for Belgium to shit or get off the pot. They've been massaging their top seed status and doing fuck all for too long now.

Bernanke
17-06-2024, 05:01 PM
I don't know about half the players in that Belgian XI.

Also looking at the bench, it really feels like their generational moment is fully over at this point.

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 05:16 PM
Surprising that VAR didn't waste upwards of 5 mins for what was a decently clear offside.

Lofty
17-06-2024, 05:17 PM
Lolkaku

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 05:21 PM
That's almost comical at this point.

Shindig
17-06-2024, 05:22 PM
This goes back to Yev's point last night how he'd rather see a defeat from a team that tries. Belgium have always tried. They're a worse England.

Dark Soldier
17-06-2024, 05:25 PM
Aye I'm sure their fans will be happy they gave it a go.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 05:31 PM
Lobotka is bossing this so far.

There’s something beautiful about watching the main man in a ‘lesser nation’ do his thing.

There’s been a lot of dons over the years who just seem to turn up in international football and do their thing

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 05:48 PM
lol if this gets ruled out.

Danny
17-06-2024, 05:48 PM
Using snicko to show him handling it :D

Shindig
17-06-2024, 05:48 PM
SloVARkia.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 05:49 PM
Using snicko to show him handling it :D

Amazing

Such a shit decision. I could understand if Lukaku handled it before scoring but it’s a different phase ffs

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 05:49 PM
I thought those insanely incidental handballs had been done away with, or is that a divergence between the premier league and UEFA? I seem to recall the latter being much more mongy on the handball issue.

Dan
17-06-2024, 05:51 PM
I thought those insanely incidental handballs had been done away with, or is that a divergence between the premier league and UEFA? I seem to recall the latter being much more mongy on the handball issue.

Europe love an extremely questionable handball. If it touches your arm/hand for any reason & your arm wasn’t pinned to your body it’s a foul.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 05:53 PM
Injuries have caught up with De Bruyne. He looks ridiculously slow and lethargic these days

Saudi beckons with Lukaku

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 05:54 PM
I don't think I'd have given it either, but I can see the argument that he gains an advantage from it.

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 05:54 PM
And sometimes even when they are pinned to your side <insert picture of Baggio dinking the ball into some Chilean sap's hand in 1998>.

I'm with Sutton, that was a scandalous decision. I also don't for a minute believe there is some vibration detecting chip in the ball.

Shindig
17-06-2024, 05:55 PM
Europe love an extremely questionable handball. If it touches your arm/hand for any reason & your arm wasn’t pinned to your body it’s a foul.

Yeah, I'm still sore about the one against Livramento in Paris.

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 05:59 PM
I can see the argument that he gains an advantage from it.

Only if you are insane.

It must have scraped his fingernail, the difference it would have made to the path of the ball would be less than negligible. It would have been non-existent. As bad as the toenail offsides that we now have to tolerate.

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 06:00 PM
It looked to me like the ball changed course. Not dramatically so, but still. :sorry:

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 06:01 PM
So the rationale is that his arm is near [lol at the vaguery there] or above shoulder level?

It categorically wasn't above shoulder level.

Is that then going to be a penalty if it happens in your own penalty area? Batshit.

Dark Soldier
17-06-2024, 06:01 PM
Raucous celebration in Antwerp right now as Belgium win the 'gave it a go' trophy. Scenes. Yev getting the flag tattooed on his arse.

Yevrah
17-06-2024, 06:13 PM
This goes back to Yev's point last night how he'd rather see a defeat from a team that tries. Belgium have always tried. They're a worse England.

I didn't say tries, I said entertains me.


Raucous celebration in Antwerp right now as Belgium win the 'gave it a go' trophy. Scenes. Yev getting the flag tattooed on his arse.

I didn't say give it a go, I said entertains me.

Kikó
17-06-2024, 06:17 PM
Belgium were great entertainment tonight.

Mike
17-06-2024, 06:17 PM
I got Slovakia in my classes sweepstakes and cheered the goal like an actual fan.

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 06:23 PM
There does seem to be some heavy leaning into the sod the performance it's all about the win narrative, as if we haven't witnessed play shit and win/draw against lesser opponents before finally playing shit against anyone half decent and losing a millions times over already.

Yevrah
17-06-2024, 06:30 PM
There does seem to be some heavy leaning into the sod the performance it's all about the win narrative, as if we haven't witnessed play shit and win/draw against lesser opponents before finally playing shit against anyone half decent and losing a millions times over already.

Yep, completely this.

I've no aversion to shitty football if it's the best available option to maximise your chances of winning and you actually win, but if you don't when you have this attacking talent at your disposal then really, what's the point?

Shindig
17-06-2024, 06:35 PM
At an international tournament, I'd favour results. Friendlies and qualifiers are where I want the performance to be good. Usually the two operate in tandem, though. For as sketchy as we looked last night, we had a solid defence and took our chance. There was a performance in there, just not in the attack-minded sense.

And hanging on by the skin of your teeth can be entertaining. Like a horror movie.

Yevrah
17-06-2024, 06:35 PM
And it's also a massive shifting of the goalposts. Coming into the tournament all the talk was about how we have these wonderful attacking players, it's coming home, yada yada yada. The attacking players mostly play well below par and the response is then "we won, what more do you want?"

Yevrah
17-06-2024, 06:37 PM
At an international tournament, I'd favour results.

I did for decades and I still would, but given we still haven't won anything (and almost all of us know deep down we're not going to win this tournament), if the football is shit it basically becomes an exercise in wasting my time.

Magic
17-06-2024, 06:37 PM
Yep, completely this.

I've no aversion to shitty football if it's the best available option to maximise your chances of winning and you actually win, but if you don't when you have this attacking talent at your disposal then really, what's the point?

I don't even think it's about the type of football, it's about doing it well, even if it's total Allardyce shite. That, for some reason, seems to be totally out of England's reach.

Yevrah
17-06-2024, 06:39 PM
Anyway, we move onto Denmark, who don't look particularly good, so a good performance and a tidy win to see us more or less top the group after two games would make last night go away.

Shouldn't be that difficult to achieve, should it?

Yevrah
17-06-2024, 06:40 PM
I don't even think it's about the type of football, it's about doing it well, even if it's total Allardyce shite. That, for some reason, seems to be totally out of England's reach.

Yeah, very fair point. Last night definitely wasn't horrible football executed well, it was just horrible football.

Serj
17-06-2024, 06:49 PM
In more important news, prepare for possibly the biggest gulf in national anthem quality at the entire tournament.

Dark Soldier
17-06-2024, 06:50 PM
Yev if we win it and we don't hit the heights of 1970s Brazil, please do a ten paragraph rant while the rest of us celebrate.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 06:54 PM
In more important news, prepare for possibly the biggest gulf in national anthem quality at the entire tournament.

Upamecano is still somehow starting over Konate so you might be getting an assist or two from him

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 07:00 PM
Belgium :harold:

Magic
17-06-2024, 07:04 PM
Yev if we win it and we don't hit the heights of 1970s Brazil, please do a ten paragraph rant while the rest of us celebrate.

Sounds like youthful optimism to me. :sherlock:

Magic
17-06-2024, 07:06 PM
Christ Maxi Wober, forgot all about him. Come on, you useless cunt.

Pepe
17-06-2024, 07:06 PM
Where's Pogba?

Shindig
17-06-2024, 07:09 PM
Banned for 3 years or something.

Kikó
17-06-2024, 07:10 PM
Banned for life

Pepe
17-06-2024, 07:10 PM
Banned how?

Pepe
17-06-2024, 07:11 PM
Just googled it. Doping? Really? He was the laziest player out there. What the fuck was he doping for?

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 07:11 PM
Four years for doping.

Magic
17-06-2024, 07:17 PM
Christ Maxi Wober, forgot all about him. Come on, you useless cunt.

:harold:

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 07:31 PM
Dembele :harold:

CJay
17-06-2024, 07:31 PM
Is there something about Ousmane Dembele that I’m missing? Worse than 1-in-4 at club level, and a tiny 5 in 44 at international level. I could understand if he was some kind of maverick dribbler or assister, but he seems more like a Walcott style player who’s never going to contribute meaningfully to a team’s success.

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 07:36 PM
That was sublime by Sabitzer.

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 07:36 PM
ffs, Baumgartner should have buried that.

Magic
17-06-2024, 07:37 PM
Oh man what a glorious chance that was.

Pepe
17-06-2024, 07:38 PM
Austria better than what I thought they would be, but then the expectations were very low.

France same shite as usual. They'll still probably go quite far, if not win.

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 07:38 PM
Christ Maxi Wober, forgot all about him. Come on, you useless cunt.

lol.

Magic
17-06-2024, 07:38 PM
Christ Maxi Wober, forgot all about him. Come on, you useless cunt.

Lmao. Still shite I see.

Dan
17-06-2024, 07:42 PM
Is there something about Ousmane Dembele that I’m missing? Worse than 1-in-4 at club level, and a tiny 5 in 44 at international level. I could understand if he was some kind of maverick dribbler or assister, but he seems more like a Walcott style player who’s never going to contribute meaningfully to a team’s success.

He was always the shining example of a brainless, unproductive dribbly boy when he was at Dortmund & Barca, but he does seem to have put it together a bit more at PSG, although that might just be due to the drop in the relative quality of opponents he’s facing. His main appeal is definitely mostly just pace, a bit of flair & being strong on both feet.

France seem to be at the in-between point with their wingers. They have guys like Olise & Barcola coming up but for now it’s still Dembele, Kingsley Coman & the like.

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 07:45 PM
Every time I've seen Barcola he looks like he's allergic to the goal.

Dan
17-06-2024, 07:50 PM
He’ll fit right in with all the other French wingers then.

Serj
17-06-2024, 07:56 PM
Our players just seem too slow to deal with the attacks, wouldn't be surprised if someone gets a second yellow here. But mostly as expected so far, hope they keep the scoreline respectable and actually finish one of those counterattacks.

SincereTheRebel
17-06-2024, 08:06 PM
That is the appeal with him. 6 out of 10 with both feet.

Dan
17-06-2024, 08:12 PM
This Austrian goalie loves to start rushing out before changing his mind & awkwardly putting it in reverse.

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 08:12 PM
Mbappe :harold:

SincereTheRebel
17-06-2024, 08:21 PM
This france kit with the large Le Coq Sportif is hideous.

Adramelch
17-06-2024, 08:30 PM
17 stepovers to lead to that shot.

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 08:37 PM
The mealy mouthed FIFA stool pigeon trying to justify that as a booking. :happycry:

Dan
17-06-2024, 08:40 PM
17 stepovers to lead to that shot.

For all the talk we just had about Ousmane Dembele that was about as peak ‘flashy but useless winger’ as it’s possible to get :D

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 08:41 PM
1802784609614397621

Paging Lewis.

CJay
17-06-2024, 08:41 PM
Nothing terribly impressive about France so far. About par with England, only with better individual defenders.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 08:44 PM
Kante :drool:

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 08:44 PM
And attackers and midfielders.

It's a 4-week concussion protocol right?

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 08:44 PM
Nothing terribly impressive about France so far. About par with England, only with better individual defenders.

They’ve created chances though and Austria are a better side than Serbia.

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 08:45 PM
His nose is all over the place.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 08:46 PM
That’s a broken nose if I’ve ever seen one

Sir Andy Mahowry
17-06-2024, 08:46 PM
Mbappe coming on just to fall over is lol.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 08:47 PM
How can you book someone for going down :D

niko_cee
17-06-2024, 08:48 PM
Booked for re-entering the field of play without permission.

thommo
17-06-2024, 08:48 PM
Sam Matterface is such an insufferable cunt.

Waffdon
17-06-2024, 08:49 PM
Should have let France make subs when the ball went out then

Baz
17-06-2024, 08:51 PM
All the kids gonna be wearing masks

Foe
17-06-2024, 08:52 PM
The mealy mouthed FIFA stool pigeon trying to justify that as a booking. :happycry:

It’s mental. What would’ve happened if it slid in? Would the goal have been disallowed?

Raoul Duke
17-06-2024, 08:52 PM
Seeing as France are the best team in it, with the best players, them squeaking past a shit Austria team via an OG makes England's result look fine, in comparison

Yevrah
17-06-2024, 09:01 PM
England's result was fine as it was.

Serj
17-06-2024, 09:02 PM
Seeing as France are the best team in it, with the best players, them squeaking past a shit Austria team via an OG makes England's result look fine, in comparison

I'll have you know we've just beaten Serbia ourselves (but yeah, fair enough).

Shindig
17-06-2024, 09:16 PM
France were really trying to kill the game off. I can admire that.

Spikey M
18-06-2024, 10:17 AM
Where the FUCK is my 2 o'clock game?

Jimmy Floyd
18-06-2024, 10:18 AM
5pm kickoffs are the pits, first half on the radio driving home from work, and usually miss the second half doing life stuff.

4 or 6 would be much better.

Waffdon
18-06-2024, 10:38 AM
Where the FUCK is my 2 o'clock game?

It’s the last group playing their first round games and only 1 game played on the opening day.

Both Tuesday’s for the group games don’t have 2pms which is great as it’s the only day I’m in the office :cool:

Waffdon
18-06-2024, 10:40 AM
Mbappe out of the remaining group games. Pussy. Just wear a mask.

Baz
18-06-2024, 11:56 AM
Where the FUCK is my 2 o'clock game?Indeed.

https://i.imgflip.com/255acs.jpg?a477384

Didn’t get long to get used to them.

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-06-2024, 12:13 PM
1803026022910026075

:harold:

Ben
18-06-2024, 12:24 PM
Bit woke of him to issue a public apology.

niko_cee
18-06-2024, 12:24 PM
Must be quite fun being Jeremy Vine's lawyers in that situation trying to cook up the most embarrassing things to get the court to order him to do.

niko_cee
18-06-2024, 12:38 PM
The comments are sensational as well.

Yevrah
18-06-2024, 12:48 PM
Easiest £75k Vine will ever make.

And obviously hilarious when these "seekers of truth and pioneers against the legacy media" get cuffed like this.

niko_cee
18-06-2024, 03:33 PM
I was going to query the other day whilst not watching the first half of the Belgium game whether the chancer's chancer Bobby Martinez was still in charge of them, but I see he's now in charge of Portugal. Lordy.

John Arne
18-06-2024, 04:00 PM
Turkish midfield looks like a bunch of tramps.

John Arne
18-06-2024, 04:06 PM
I've only just clocked that the Copa America is being staged outside of South America again :face:

Are CONMEBOL more corrupt than FIFA?

Waffdon
18-06-2024, 04:13 PM
That Turkish team looks much better from when they were the apparent ‘dark horses’ at the last euros. Certainly the midfield/wide players look legit.

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-06-2024, 04:26 PM
That was hit so well. Beautiful technique.

Been a decent game thus far.

Waffdon
18-06-2024, 04:27 PM
Offft, that’s stunning :drool:

Serj
18-06-2024, 04:27 PM
Woof. Love me a good volley.

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-06-2024, 04:27 PM
This team looks good.

I think he's off.

John Arne
18-06-2024, 04:28 PM
Offsido.

Giggles
18-06-2024, 04:28 PM
That's offside.

John Arne
18-06-2024, 04:33 PM
This is proper fun.

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-06-2024, 04:33 PM
Georgia :cool:

Number 6 with a lovely bit of skill.

Waffdon
18-06-2024, 04:34 PM
Game of the tournament so far

Hope it keeps up

Waffdon
18-06-2024, 04:35 PM
Them types of offsides are bit sickening. Onside if he has hobbit feet