F1 2024 - 24 Rounds of Street Circuit Thrillers

[Adramelch]

Ocon also back to his old habits I see.

[Waffdon]

Alpine’s at it too :D

[Gray Fox]

Half of the grids heads have gone here.

[Ben]

Ocon ffs. :D

[Adramelch]

Looking at the state of that barrier, I think we're in for quite the delay.

[SincereTheRebel]

Gasly :D

That was nuts from Ocon.

Ruthless Aggression. Dont care if its his teammate.

[Ben]

Kids hotels don’t do Sky Sports so I’m on my phone with 35% battery, this delay better not be too long.

[Pepe]

Fuck, got the start time wrong by an hour.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fuck, got the start time wrong by an hour.

I almost did that too.

I was sure for most of the day that it was at 3pm UK time.

[Gray Fox]

In the bigger picture, this is serious bad news for Red Bull. They already push the limit on cost cap, but their car has been caught up and that repair job will be in the millions. The money to use on upgrades just took a big hit.

[Clunge]

Some seriously daft driving by a bunch of people there.

[Waffdon]

Sainz can thank Magnusson for that. Fuck sake. Top 4 now not going to pit are they

[SincereTheRebel]

Hard tyres until the end for all?

[SincereTheRebel]

Magnusson my new favourite driver.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've just show that Checo looks and knows KMag is there.

That's naughty, he should have given him more room.

[Gray Fox]

Perez not coming out of those replays with much credit.

[Ben]

Agreed. Magnussen definitely at fault but Perez very naive. The “no further investigation” ruling fair enough I think, especially with it being lap 1 turn 1.

[Adramelch]

Perez was also very very slow throughout. Got easily jumped by the Sauber and then both Haas cars were faster than him out of that corner.

[Waffdon]

Hamilton fucking hates Merc. He’s getting more and more cynical at every passing opportunity :lol:

[Waffdon]

Have they made a mistake because why is Sainz getting his place back but Danny Ric is behind Stroll?

[Waffdon]

There’s not a chance Piastri doesn’t destroy his hard tyres before the end of the race. He can barley keep them going for 30 laps.

Probably going to get another red flag or safety anyway which will be interesting if it’s the latter

[SincereTheRebel]

We need a yellow livery on the grid by default.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ive always wondered. The people watching the race from the team garages for example. Carlos Sainz Snr. They have the Ferrari headsets on. Are they listening to the race commentary like us, or team radio?

[Waffdon]

What are merc doing? Whats the point?

Should have stayed on hards at this point and hoped for another red

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Everyone just managing their tyres.

This is so fun.

[Ben]

Hope we get a red or safety car. Fuck Mercedes here.

[Gray Fox]

Tyre management formula has no place at Monaco.

They need some extreme degradation tyres for here really.

[SincereTheRebel]

Everyone just managing their tyres.

This is so fun.



Championship final is on involving Leeds and Southampton. Ive turned over.

[Shindig]

Indy 500 in a couple of hours, lads. Hold firm.

[Ben]

James Vowles is great stuff on the pit wall. A million miles better than Szafnauer and Horner in previous years.

[Gray Fox]

I miss Guenther already.

[Waffdon]

These back markers just ruined any chance of a Norris pit stop in the next few laps

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ocon sounds like he's on borrowed time.

[Waffdon]

For fuck sake. Could have at least lost the tyre on the track

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

This race has been so wank.

Monaco is just too shit with the modern cars.

You can't have these wide as fuck boats streaming round. There's no excitement bar the first lap.

[Shindig]

Hamilton going for fastest lap, then.

[Ben]

This race has been so wank.

Monaco is just too shit with the modern cars.

You can't have these wide as fuck boats streaming round. There's no excitement bar the first lap.

Problem is they’ll bin Monaco before rectifying the actual problem, the cars.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Holy shit we have an overtake.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Can't believe I'm saying this but Max might be the one who could make this race interesting near the end.

Max v both Mercs seems like the only decent fight.

[SincereTheRebel]

Hamilton said " why didnt you tell me the outlap was critical". Outlaps and Inlaps are always critical :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hamilton said " why didnt you tell me the outlap was critical". Outlaps and Inlaps are always critical :D

He's just pissing and moaning about everything to Merc now.

He doesn't give a shit.

[Waffdon]

Just gamble McLaren. Do something

Probably missed their chance now

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah it's gone for them now sadly.

Would have been nice if they gambled with one (Lando) but they bottled it.

[Adramelch]

It wouldn't even have been much a gamble really.

[Ben]

If Verstappen can’t pass Russell here then F1 has to do something radical. Street circuits are only becoming more common so they need to jettison these ridiculously large cars ASAP.

[Shindig]

Nah, Monaco's the anomaly. The rest of the street circuits are wider.

[Waffdon]

Russell won’t be far off the top 4 come the end of this race if this keeps up. Can’t believe they never used the free pit on Norris as it was 21 seconds at 1 point

[Ben]

Nah, Monaco's the anomaly. The rest of the street circuits are wider.

It’s the metaphor involved. You’ve got the best driver in the best car with the better tyres and he catches at 3-4 seconds per lap then can’t do anything about it. Take away the artificial DRS and you have the same issue at a lot more circuits. Either you build 10 more circuits or reel the car sizes back 10 years. Three years ago you had Ross Brawn saying they’d look to eliminate DRS after a couple of seasons of the new regulations because they could race closer. What a fucking lol that is in hindsight.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The best bits are when they cut to Charles' lass.

[Waffdon]

Expected his missus to look completely different based off of the horniness of this thread

[Waffdon]

4 different winners already this year. Happy days

[SincereTheRebel]

What was the reason for bigger cars?

[Adramelch]

Hybrid engines are typically bulkier and more floor means more downforce are the two main reasons if I had to guess.

[phonics]

People complaining that Monaco is shit and SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE is just as much of a tradition of the sport than anything else in the whole formula un, deux or trois.

[Ben]

What was the reason for bigger cars?

150kg of battery because they had to reel it back to 1.6L engines. That’s the problem.

[Pepe]

People complaining that Monaco is shit and SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE is just as much of a tradition of the sport than anything else in the whole formula un, deux or trois.

Indeed. Monaco is a parade, has always been, and will always be.

[Ben]

It’s less the overtaking but the rampant tyre management that robs us of any sort of actual racing. The cars are so heavy that even one push lap ruins the rubber.

[Shindig]

Cool, the Indy 500 looks like it's getting washed out.

[Ben]

They have a reserve day don’t they? Or am I making that up?

If so, some nice bank holiday viewing.

[Pepe]

At least the Coca Cola 600 should be ON.

[phonics]

It’s less the overtaking but the rampant tyre management that robs us of any sort of actual racing. The cars are so heavy that even one push lap ruins the rubber.

There has never been racing at Monaco in the 20 years you've been paying attention. Don't nostalgia post about it being better in your day. My grandad thought Monaco was a bad race when I was checking qualifying on Ceefax and he had a Nigel Mansell Portrait next to his wedding photo.

For those interested, I can't find the actual painting because it was binned when he died because my Nan hated it but it was pretty much this right next to the wedding photo.

https://wjhenley.art/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Mansell_2000.jpg

[Shindig]

Just seen the lap 1 crash. Magnussen's was really, really pushing his luck there.

[Pepe]

That Williams was a beauty. No shame in having that at full display anywhere.

[phonics]

That Williams was a beauty. No shame in having that at full display anywhere.

For some reason I have a vibe that the sponsor was some cigarette company on the wing for the one Grandad had.

[Giggles]

Hadn't they Rothmans for a good while?

[Shindig]

Yeah, Rothmans got on the wing at some point. Mansell would've driven it during 1994/1995.

[Ben]

There has never been racing at Monaco in the 20 years you've been paying attention. Don't nostalgia post about it being better in your day. My grandad thought Monaco was a bad race when I was checking qualifying on Ceefax and he had a Nigel Mansell Portrait next to his wedding photo.

For those interested, I can't find the actual painting because it was binned when he died because my Nan hated it but it was pretty much this right next to the wedding photo.

https://wjhenley.art/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Mansell_2000.jpg

I’m not saying it’s a Monaco problem. It’s a problem on half the calendar now. Because of the cars.

Montreal next up which has the potential to be a bore fest too. Imagine saying that 10 years ago. Hybrid era has been good for a lot of things but it’s ruined the old circuits. The stats have been propped up by DRS but overtakes doesn’t always equal good racing.

[Clunge]

Watching clips from 2005-2008 really make me wish for the smaller, nimble cars again. Also, surely we can go back to refuelling some time?

[phonics]

Watching clips from 2005-2008 really make me wish for the smaller, nimble cars again. Also, surely we can go back to refuelling some time?

Even if they were to give up the sustainability fraud, the possibility of massive fires is probably not worth it.

[Shindig]

Indy's underway. Marcus Ericsson out on the first lap. :(

Newgarden wins. First back to back winner for 20 years. Pato O'Ward just misses out. That was fun.

[Pepe]

The 500 was a good race. O'Ward bottled it by going too soon.

Indy is a good series but the cars are too ugly.

[John Arne]

Why was Sainz allowed to return to 3rd, when he was clearly 20th when the red flag came out... Was it because the accident originally happened behind him?

[Gray Fox]

With a red flag all positions are returned to the end of the previous lap. Given that this was the first lap they use the sector markers instead. All cars didnt clear the end of sector 1(basically at Mirabeau), so they had to revert to starting order.

[John Arne]

Ohhh... cheers.

[SincereTheRebel]

Thr tyres are too strong. You should not be able to do 70 laps on the medium yellow compound. The tyre should puncture and explode at 40% of that distance.

4 different rave winners so far though. Not quite 2012 when we had 7 from the first 7 but still. Progress.

[SincereTheRebel]

Nevermind the hard whites.

[Giggles]

They tyres should be made of whatever space age shit that they need to be to allow them to go flat out all the time and none of this managing crap. Still have one mandatory replacement.

[SincereTheRebel]

Having to use all compounds during the race would be good. Do they have tyres over the weekend they have never used in this current format?

[SincereTheRebel]

Driver % of their team's points:

Albon - 100%
Hulkenberg - 87%
Tsunoda - 79%
Alonso - 75%
Verstappen - 61%
Norris - 61%
Russell - 56%
Leclerc - 55%
Ocon/Gasly - 50%


Only zhou, bottas and sargent are pointless.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That team has been pointless for years, but now they're painted bright green it's even worse.

[SincereTheRebel]

That team has been pointless for years, but now they're painted bright green it's even worse.

:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Team France, perfectly balanced.

You love to see it.

[Shindig]

I'm surprised they don't split those two up. They clearly hate each other and will always meet on the road. :D

Here's the Indy finish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF5H128ByN4

The atmosphere between this and Monaco is night and day. The TT is next week. I've coincidentally taken that week off so I'll be listening to Manx FM for most of it.

[Gray Fox]

Paddock talk is that Perez is expected to re-sign with Red Bull through 2025. Bad news for Sainz, Tsunoda and Ricciardo. For the latter you'd suggest that's probably going to be the end of him in F1.

Sainz is apparently not being considered because he and Max did not get on in Toro Rosso. Big suggestion there that Max isn't listening to Toto flirting with him. That leaves Tsunoda who I feel is most hard done to here. Talent wise he should be getting that seat over Perez. He's probably at that point now where another team is likely his best option. Maybe a left-field choice in Mercedes?

[phonics]

Tsunoda is the definition of 'Does not have it'

he'd make Gasly look like a success.

[Pepe]

Sainz to Mercedes should be a no brainer, no?

[Ben]

I think the prevailing opinion is that Sainz to Audi when they enter in 2026 is a done deal, so a works team won't want to be dishing out one-year deals when it's not their choice.

[SincereTheRebel]

Danny Ric is about to creep into the top 10 with the most races entered. Get him out of here. Cant even beat Yuki.

[SincereTheRebel]

That being said, name the drivers with the most entries in F1 who have NEVER won a world title


326 -
272 -
269 -
257 -
256 -
248 - Daniel Ricciardo
247 -
231 -
231 -
217 -
215 -
214 -
214 -
210 -
202 -
193 -
185 -
181 -
181 -
180 -
172 -
165 -
165 -
164 -
164 -
162 -
160 -
158 -
154 -
153 -
148 -

[John Arne]

Some interesting records I've been looking through.

Lance :D

https://gyazo.com/323a3b27838370937c98883a8c6bbac4.jpeg

https://gyazo.com/94c74a0389355e402662886f904f283c.jpeg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Felipe Massa :eyemouth:

[John Arne]

Sorry Sincere, we posted at the same time.

[Gray Fox]

Of the current grid, Hulkenberg and Bottas must be up there.

[SincereTheRebel]

update




326 -
272 - Felipe Massa
269 -
257 -
256 -
248 - Daniel Ricciardo
247 -
231 -
231 - Valtteri Bottas
217 -
215 -
214 - Andrea de Cesaris
214 - Nico Hulkenberg
210 -
202 -
193 -
185 - Nick Heidfeld
181 -
181 - Romain Grosjean
180 -
172 - Kevin Magnussen
165 - Martin Brundle
165 - Johnny Herbert
164 -
164 -
162 - Derek Warwick
160 -
158 -
154 -
153 - Lance Stroll
148 -

[Gray Fox]

Rubens Barichello.

Found himself in a few title winning cars but never had it in him to get it done. '09 probably his biggest let down.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Rubens would be up there, Riccardo Patrese as well, he spanned about 10 eras. Eddie Irvine must have got to 150+ as well.

[SincereTheRebel]

all above correct


326 - Rubens Barrichello
272 - Felipe Massa
269 -
257 - Riccardo Patrese
256 -
248 - Daniel Ricciardo
247 -
231 -
231 - Valtteri Bottas
217 -
215 -
214 - Andrea de Cesaris
214 - Nico Hulkenberg
210 -
202 -
193 -
185 - Nick Heidfeld
181 -
181 - Romain Grosjean
180 -
172 - Kevin Magnussen
165 - Martin Brundle
165 - Johnny Herbert
164 -
164 -
162 - Derek Warwick
160 -
158 -
154 -
153 - Lance Stroll
148 - Eddie Irvine

[Jimmy Floyd]

Thierry Boutsen, Rene Arnoux

Most of the rest will be recent. Perez must be right up there.

[SincereTheRebel]

Thierry Boutsen, Rene Arnoux

Most of the rest will be recent. Perez must be right up there.


326 - Rubens Barrichello
272 - Felipe Massa
269 - Sergio Perez
257 - Riccardo Patrese
256 -
248 - Daniel Ricciardo
247 -
231 -
231 - Valtteri Bottas
217 -
215 -
214 - Andrea de Cesaris
214 - Nico Hulkenberg
210 -
202 -
193 -
185 - Nick Heidfeld
181 -
181 - Romain Grosjean
180 -
172 - Kevin Magnussen
165 - Martin Brundle
165 - Johnny Herbert
164 - Rene Arnoux
164 - Thierry Boutsen
162 - Derek Warwick
160 -
158 -
154 -
153 - Lance Stroll
148 - Eddie Irvine

[thommo]

Sainz must be close to 200 starts, surely he's on there.

[Jimmy Floyd]

DC as well. Frentzen. Ralf.

[SincereTheRebel]

Sainz must be close to 200 starts, surely he's on there.


DC as well. Frentzen. Ralf.


326 - Rubens Barrichello
272 - Felipe Massa
269 - Sergio Perez
257 - Riccardo Patrese
256 -
248 - Daniel Ricciardo
247 - David Coulthard
231 -
231 - Valtteri Bottas
217 -
215 -
214 - Andrea de Cesaris
214 - Nico Hulkenberg
210 -
202 -
193 - Carlos Sainz
185 - Nick Heidfeld
181 - Ralf Schumacher
181 - Romain Grosjean
180 -
172 - Kevin Magnussen
165 - Martin Brundle
165 - Johnny Herbert
164 - Rene Arnoux
164 - Thierry Boutsen
162 - Derek Warwick
160 - Heinz-Harald Frentzen
158 -
154 -
153 - Lance Stroll
148 - Eddie Irvine

[thommo]

Mark Webber. Jarno Trulli. Speaking of Italians, Fisichella.

[SincereTheRebel]

Mark Webber. Jarno Trulli. Speaking of Italians, Fisichella.


326 - Rubens Barrichello
272 - Felipe Massa
269 - Sergio Perez
257 - Riccardo Patrese
256 - Jarno Trulli
248 - Daniel Ricciardo
247 - David Coulthard
231 - Giancarlo Fisichella
231 - Valtteri Bottas
217 - Mark Webber
215 - Italian from back in the day
214 - Andrea de Cesaris
214 - Nico Hulkenberg
210 - Former Ferrari driver
202 - Another French Boy
193 - Carlos Sainz
185 - Nick Heidfeld
181 - Ralf Schumacher
181 - Romain Grosjean
180 - Another French Boy
172 - Kevin Magnussen
165 - Martin Brundle
165 - Johnny Herbert
164 - Rene Arnoux
164 - Thierry Boutsen
162 - Derek Warwick
160 - Heinz-Harald Frentzen
158 - Another French Boy
154 - UK boy
153 - Lance Stroll
148 - Eddie Irvine

[Jimmy Floyd]

Alboreto for the old Italian.

Have Ocon and Gasly got up to these numbers already? Depressing if so.

Oh, Jean Alesi. And Berger.

[SincereTheRebel]

Alboreto for the old Italian.

Have Ocon and Gasly got up to these numbers already? Depressing if so.

Oh, Jean Alesi. And Berger.


326 - Rubens Barrichello
272 - Felipe Massa
269 - Sergio Perez
257 - Riccardo Patrese
256 - Jarno Trulli
248 - Daniel Ricciardo
247 - David Coulthard
231 - Giancarlo Fisichella
231 - Valtteri Bottas
217 - Mark Webber
215 - Michele Alboreto
214 - Andrea de Cesaris
214 - Nico Hulkenberg
210 - Gerhard Berger
202 - Jean Alesi
193 - Carlos Sainz
185 - Nick Heidfeld
181 - Ralf Schumacher
181 - Romain Grosjean
180 - Another French Boy
172 - Kevin Magnussen
165 - Martin Brundle
165 - Johnny Herbert
164 - Rene Arnoux
164 - Thierry Boutsen
162 - Derek Warwick
160 - Heinz-Harald Frentzen
158 - Another French Boy
154 - UK boy last race was 1985
153 - Lance Stroll
148 - Eddie Irvine

[Adramelch]

Panis for one of the frenchies.

[Jimmy Floyd]

70s to early 80s was the worst era for British drivers so I guess it must be John Watson.

[SincereTheRebel]

Panis for one of the frenchies.


70s to early 80s was the worst era for British drivers so I guess it must be John Watson.

Final man was Jacques Laffite


326 - Rubens Barrichello
272 - Felipe Massa
269 - Sergio Perez
257 - Riccardo Patrese
256 - Jarno Trulli
248 - Daniel Ricciardo
247 - David Coulthard
231 - Giancarlo Fisichella
231 - Valtteri Bottas
217 - Mark Webber
215 - Michele Alboreto
214 - Andrea de Cesaris
214 - Nico Hulkenberg
210 - Gerhard Berger
202 - Jean Alesi
193 - Carlos Sainz
185 - Nick Heidfeld
181 - Ralf Schumacher
181 - Romain Grosjean
180 - Jacques Laffite
172 - Kevin Magnussen
165 - Martin Brundle
165 - Johnny Herbert
164 - Rene Arnoux
164 - Thierry Boutsen
162 - Derek Warwick
160 - Heinz-Harald Frentzen
158 - Olivier Panis
154 - John Watson
153 - Lance Stroll
148 - Eddie Irvine

[Pepe]

Indycar under safety car for 90% of the race, what a shitshow.

[Giggles]

Indycar under safety car for 90% of the race, what a shitshow.

I was wondering about that the other day watching the practice with all the bitching going on, it look d a seriously tight track by any standards.

[Pepe]

The start is a long straight into a narrow, fully-walled, u-turn. They keep crashing every single restart.

[Giggles]

Finally got away.

[Pepe]

Still more entertaining than Monaco.

[Giggles]

Still more entertaining than Monaco.

It's always very good racing, even on the ovals.

[Gray Fox]

Super Team France didn't work out. Ocon booted at the end of the year.

[SincereTheRebel]

He was gone before the Monaco move?

[SincereTheRebel]

Alpine really fucked it right up didnt they


https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2022/08/d98c4-16594135315339-1920.jpg

[Shindig]

All is well at Red Bull. Checo's signed for two more years.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He must have dirt on Horner.

Dirt that would absolutely bury him.

[Shindig]

Or he just wants to drive the best car and Verstappen's not going anywhere.

[Gray Fox]

I suspect Sainz ends up at Williams beside Albon then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Or he just wants to drive the best car and Verstappen's not going anywhere.

Obviously Checo wants to drive the best car but why the fuck would Red Bull want Checo in it?

I can understand them not wanting Sainz as it could upset Max having someone that competent but surely there's some middle ground.

[Shindig]

Checo is the middle ground. They don't need two drivers at the top of their game because one is so far ahead in quality. All he needs to do is pick up points finishes to make sure of the constructors title. 2026 might tighten the pack up but, at that stage, Perez is in his last year.

And I don't think someone being competent would upset Verstappen. If anything, having a rival might help his motivation. Red Bull is the party very averse to having two title contenders.

[Pepe]

Horner just knows how much potential Perez has. World champion once they hire someone that can design a proper car.

[Shindig]

When's your next interview with them?

[Ben]

2 years is pretty mental. Not even 1+1. Top agent.

[SincereTheRebel]

I dont think Red Bull want to upset Max with Sainz. It is probably more to do with not having Sainz Snr and Max Snr in the same paddock

[Adramelch]

Not sure what alternatives they have to be honest. As much as I like to lol at Perez, he's still a top half driver and you'd imagine everyone above him wouldn't want to play second fiddle to Max. Maybe Albon at a push, but he's committed to Williams already.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The phrase 'safe pair of hands' comes to mind. Other than the real elite number one drivers, that's all these teams are really looking for.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think Monaco proved that his hands aren't all that safe.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I mean they all launch it into the barriers occasionally, but when I say safe pair of hands I mean they're going to turn out consistent lap times that give meaningful data about the car, and don't get in the way of big dick up front. The opposite of that would be a steamhead like Tsunoda, not sure how he's lasted this long in the sport the way it is today, even though he's quick.

[Adramelch]

He's improved a lot in that respect over the last year or so to be fair.

[Pepe]

When's your next interview with them?

Monday. I am interviewing for Max's job.

[SincereTheRebel]

Since Max won his first title. They have won the constructors 3 years in a row and Perez has won over 50% of the races when Max has not won. He is near enough the perfect number two.

[Waffdon]

Rain due all weekend long. Lovely

[Ben]

Pissing down. :drool:

Dry race, natch.

[Waffdon]

Doesn’t look like it will be. Thunderstorms due every day.

Silly cunts will probably red flag it if it gets a bit too wet.

Norris loves the rain. Easy win.

[Ben]

Full wets on here. No chance they let them race if it’s like this.

[Ben]

Drying up quickly. Be ideal if we get a downpour like this around race time.

[Ben]

Jacques Villeneuve shitting on the new regs.

[Pepe]

The active aero ones? Will need more details on those, but I do not love them. Right now you need to compromise between good cornering but low straight speeds or the other way round. With the new active aero stuff, you no longer need to make that compromise.

[Shindig]

Seems very gamey to me. And another thing for the drivers to fiddle with in the cockpit.

[Pepe]

Will also be fun when someone forgets to switch to corner mode (or the system fails) and drives straight into a wall.

[Ben]

His main concern was how a car could potentially just suddenly get slower half way down a straight.

[Pepe]

The opposite problem to what I describe. I guess we'll have to wait and see just how different the two settings are.

They should have just allowed real active aero. Allow teams to control their wings as they see fit whenever they want. That could be fun.

[Gray Fox]

Leclerc under investigation for going out on a raining track on inters. Be very daft to punish him for that.

[Gray Fox]

Jacques Villeneuve shitting on the new regs.

He murdered Riccardo too. Sky folk didn't know how to react.

[Giggles]

That was quality, and he was 100% bang on too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not sure what they were expecting getting JV on, he's not exactly known for his bland Rosbergian patter.

[Ben]

Leclerc under investigation for going out on a raining track on inters. Be very daft to punish him for that.

Fined €5k. Cop out punishment because they know the rule is pathetic.

[Jimmy Floyd]

What are they going to fine him for next, taking an aggressive line into turn 4?

[Clunge]

I hate how rain is policed in F1 these days. Yes, if it chucks it down in a race a la Canada 2011, intervene. But otherwise, let the drivers use the tools at their disposal and work their way up to driving at the limit of the conditions. Running in the rain during practice, qualifying and races these days is so limited, I'd say a lot of drivers who have joined the grid in the past decade have only had a fraction of the practice running in the rain that others have had which just perpetuates the problem. Even Massa, who would bin it in the rain every time without fail circa 2007/08, learned how to drive to the conditions.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Wet running is such a big part of the history of the sport and is the time when the driver's skill is most at a premium, and when the good drivers separate themselves often regardless of machinery.

F1 clearly not interested in this and more interested in running the Safety World Championship.

[SincereTheRebel]

Reason why Hamilton and Alonso immediately go towards the top of the time sheets during wet conditions.

For me, it seems like the inters are too good of a tyre. When the full wets are required, they red flag the race like a bunch of pussy farts

[Gray Fox]

Wet tyre is far too good at what it's designed to do, which is chuck gallons of water off the floor up into the air so you can drive on the track. Unfortunately comes with the downside of spray everywhere and seriously reduced visibility.

Since we lost Jules Bianchi they've been terrified to go full racing on wet tyres in case something similar ever happened again. Even though that was a combination of sheer bad luck and Jules being a bit naughty.

[Shindig]

Aye, people like to forget he was giving it full beans during yellows. Although he probably couldn't see a thing in that weather. Visibility must be a huge factor in them being flag happy.

[SincereTheRebel]

They trialled mud flaps on the cars didnt they? In this case, water flaps.

[Adramelch]

I don't know, fining someone for testing stuff in a session designated to testing seems fair play to me.

[Gray Fox]

Yuki for another year in the VCARB then. A bit unambitious?

[Adramelch]

It's exactly his level to be honest.

[Waffdon]

Wonder if merc are fake pumping us again here or are actually decent

[Shindig]

Perez will be praying for chaos tomorrow. :D

[niko_cee]

Perez is so shit.

[Waffdon]

Perez :D

Abysmal. He might be bottom 3 driver at this point.

Hopefully the rain comes in Q3

[Gray Fox]

Did they keep a receipt on that contract?

[SincereTheRebel]

He has been shit since Sainz got the boot

[niko_cee]

Rain!

:drool:

[Waffdon]

Merc still looking good. The rain to fuck them would be beautiful

[Adramelch]

- I guess we're fucked
- Yes

:D

[Gray Fox]

Ferrari deep in the mud there. Doesn't look good in race trim either.

Is Tory George going to deny us a "Get in there Lewis!" or Max just plonk it up there again.

[niko_cee]

The big brains at Ferrari strategy central strike again.

[Waffdon]

Bookies don’t have a clue. Both Mercs and max 9/4 to win quali.

Little do they know.

:cool:

[Gray Fox]

Well you dont see that too often.

[niko_cee]

Turns out they did know.

[Shindig]

Man, Hamilton might've been fightier from the front row against Verstappen. Turns out he was nowhere.

[Adramelch]

Well you dont see that too often.

Not to mention that the pole position was set on a used tire. You don't see that too often either.

[Waffdon]

That was incredible.

Merc finally looking good but I can’t trust their race pace whatsoever. Between Norris and Verstappen again

[Waffdon]

Man, Hamilton might've been fightier from the front row against Verstappen.

Not a chance. Russell is a maniac. He’d fight over P18

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Obviously Checo wants to drive the best car but why the fuck would Red Bull want Checo in it?

I can understand them not wanting Sainz as it could upset Max having someone that competent but surely there's some middle ground.

He's trying hard to prove me wrong...

[Pepe]

So, are we getting rain?

[Gray Fox]

It's going to be a completely green track, not sure if it actually rains during the race though.

[niko_cee]

In my mind race was going to be at 8, is it 7? Why do they constantly fuck around with the relative times between qualifying and the race?

[SincereTheRebel]

It is starting wet but hopefully it goes to dry and then wet again

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

These two singing the anthem :D

[Foe]

Could be tasty this.

That anthemn though. Jesus :D

[niko_cee]

:D

Verstappen's face was classic.

Is one of them Raffi?

[Waffdon]

In my mind race was going to be at 8, is it 7? Why do they constantly fuck around with the relative times between qualifying and the race?

Qualifying always later than the race isn’t it? Normally only by an hour right enough

[niko_cee]

Yeah, I was figuring race an hour earlier than quali, but it's two.

[Gray Fox]

I'm very confident in Maxwinslol here.

But bring on the chaos.

[Waffdon]

Rain due to start again around the start. ‘Mon the chaos on the front row

[niko_cee]

Is the wrasslin' Mountie still alive?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPpk2sjXsAAP09n?format=jpg

:drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is the wrasslin' Mountie still alive?

He is indeed.

[Waffdon]

Surprised someone in top ten didn’t risk starting on the wets

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Surprised someone in top ten didn’t risk starting on the wets

They'll be kicking themselves seeing how well KMag is doing.

[Waffdon]

K Mag has played a blinder here

[Adramelch]

Well Haas, that is. Hulkenberg has also been moving up a lot.

[Ben]

Haas :cool:

[Adramelch]

Seems the relative pace of the tires is already shifting.

[Waffdon]

Still worth the risk though. It’s a short pit lane.

McLaren looking slow as shit. Balls

[Adramelch]

The outdid all their good work with that horrible pit stop sadly.

[Ben]

Haas :(

[Waffdon]

This rain coming soon makes this v interesting. You could definitely run softs in this

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

DRS with inters should be fun.

[Gray Fox]

DRS on inters is allowed?

[SincereTheRebel]

That Mclaren engine down the straights had a mean whistle to it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

McLaren's are flying right now.

:drool:

Mon Lando and Piastry.

[SincereTheRebel]

Russel usually gambles in wet conditions. He is usually one of the first to pit

[Waffdon]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Norris take Verstappen over.

Unreal

[Ben]

McLaren looking slow as shit. Balls

U wot m8

[Adramelch]

DRS on inters is allowed?

Well the track is game for slicks, they just know what is coming and stay on inters.

[Waffdon]

McLaren definitely gonna cock their strategy up

[Waffdon]

U wot m8

:D

He was 9 seconds behind. Italy all over again

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was very dangerous from George.

[Gray Fox]

Landos 2nd win is loading. He's flying away.

[Waffdon]

Piastri is rapid as well now.

[Ben]

This is going to be a right laugh if the rain comes. Nobody has any tread left.

[Waffdon]

Hamilton has 3 DRS zones and still not past Alonso lol

[Waffdon]

Sochi incoming

[Adramelch]

Sargeant just genuinely doesn't belong in this level.

[Waffdon]

Fuck off sergeant

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Logan is so bad.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

George has chosen violence today against Max.

[niko_cee]

Sergeant an absolute embarrassment, unsurprisingly.

[Ben]

I wonder if Williams are thinking about a mid-season change.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

ffs McLaren.

[Adramelch]

ffs McLaren.

Not sure what else they could have done.

[Waffdon]

What the fuck. How did they catch up with him so quickly?

[SincereTheRebel]

Is Sargent more of a mess compared to Mazepin?

We have seen drivers kicked out mid season for less.

[Adramelch]

He was caught up behind the SC for almost a full lap while they weren't.

Edit: @Sincere he's bad but nowhere near that bad. He's Latifi Mk II basically.

[Pepe]

We need Nascar-like yellow flag rules. This is BS.

[niko_cee]

Can you not just cane it, within reason, at race pace until you get caught by the safety car?

They were talking about deltas but isn't that VSC?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What the fuck. How did they catch up with him so quickly?

Yeah, it was strange.

I thought he would be clearly ahead.

He was like 28s ahead of the pack.

[Waffdon]

Norris was 8 seconds ahead of everyone before they even pitted. How do you then come out 3rd?

[niko_cee]

Safety car did Max a solid.

Colour me shocked.

[Waffdon]

Oh well. Already past both them already this race so no reason he can’t do it again.

[Adramelch]

That rain looks nasty though so maybe more shenanigans to follow.

[niko_cee]

They've sent LeClerc out on the hards? :D

[Adramelch]

I get the gamble, but even if their prediction of 2 laps of rain comes true, surely he'll lose way more time than a full pit stop, if he even manages to keep the car on the track.

[Ben]

Ferrari :D

[Shindig]

Ferrari strategists are a different breed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Plan Oh Fuck in full swing for Ferrari.

[Adramelch]

That was mega from Albon.

[niko_cee]

He's almost 30 seconds behind the guy in front already.

[Waffdon]

Should end on slicks so still more drama to come I think

[Foe]

Is tsunodas inters become slicks can he just run to the end? If so surely his pace will be rapid?

[Gray Fox]

Is tsunodas inters become slicks can he just run to the end? If so surely his pace will be rapid?

Yes. Hamilton did it in Turkey a few years back. But he won't be fast compared to natural slicks.

[Waffdon]

Dry line appearing. Norris time baby

[Adramelch]

As for the Norris-SC thing, my understanding is that you have to keep to a certain delta until you reach the SC which goes slower than that. So basically the other drivers got to drive faster than Norris for quite a bit there.

Essentially the reverse of what happened in Miami.