F1 2024 - 24 Rounds of Street Circuit Thrillers

[niko_cee]

5 second penalty for a false start makes me think that anyone at the sharp end would be better off just doing that rather than sitting in filthy air for the first stint, as Brundle has just pointed out.

[Ben]

Yeah that’s a ridiculous penalty. I’d just be scything up the inside on the fourth red, then taking the hit. Granted it’ll only happen once before they close the loophole but that’s a pretty fucking massive one.

[Waffdon]

wtf is that Ferrari on the straight. Rocket fuel

[Adramelch]

That got spicy real fast.

[Gray Fox]

The penny is beginning to drop for Lando.

He is not your best mate when he's in the car.

[niko_cee]

:D

Verstappen is a maniac.

[Adramelch]

That second one especially was outrageous.

[Waffdon]

Verstappen doing what he needs to do there clearly

[Ben]

If this isn’t a penalty for Verstappen then they’re 100% scared of Horner.

[niko_cee]

So big brain move for Norris is to not accept the place back then?

Shades of Schumacher black flag territory really. Something needs to be done.

[niko_cee]

He gets done for track limits as well?

:lol:

[Waffdon]

Surely track limits gets removed if they person forcing you off gets a penalty?

[Waffdon]

The second incident is mental

I wouldn’t be shocked if Verstappen tries to just end Norris’ race now

[Gray Fox]

Max is making the message clear. You Lando, are not getting by, no matter what.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, just wait for the pit stop. He will take him off.

[Ben]

Oh boy. :D

[Gray Fox]

Heads have gone across the grid.

[niko_cee]

Sergio about to get told to bin it and bring out the safety car. Or one of the minions.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah from one side or the other, there's going to be some safety car shenanigans here.

[Adramelch]

Sergio about to get told to bin it and bring out the safety car. Or one of the minions.

Not sure if he even has to be told to be honest, he's doing his best already.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Can't watch but Maxipad getting two penalties :drool:

[niko_cee]

No one wants to hear the Russell reaction, give me the Lewis reaction.

[Waffdon]

Lando finishing 3rd will still do nothing to the championship. He could do with just pushing the the throttle and getting past Verstappen otherwise he won’t have a chance at the Ferraris

[Ben]

Ocon being behind the two Saubers is an effort. He’s completely thrown the towel in with this outfit.

[Adramelch]

I am not sure after this and last race he'll be the most confident in getting past Verstappen though.

[niko_cee]

Here we go, crash time.

[Adramelch]

Realistically Norris just isn't winning the championship, so I wonder if it's time for McLaren to start planning their strat around not losing the Constructors' to Ferrari.

[Waffdon]

I mean Verstappen is going to get p7 here at a minimum so I’m not even sure this penalty was the end of the world. His work was done when he made Leclerc get ahead of Norris and put Sainz miles clear

[Waffdon]

Scrap that he’s probably finishing ahead of Hamilton as well here

[Shindig]

The play for Norris should be trying to get Verstappen a race ban on his license.

[niko_cee]

Watch the Mercs take each other out now Ferrari style.

Verstappen's tyres are fucked but I guess he's just planning to hold 6th/7th.

[Waffdon]

I’d be 2 stopping if I were McLaren here. They have a free stop at this point, nothing to lose

[niko_cee]

They'll go for the fastest lap stop and lose a tyre or something.

[niko_cee]

I see Lawson's been to the Max Verstappen school of leaving space on the outside.

[Waffdon]

How slow is Piastri compared to Norris? The bloke has much fresher tyres and Norris is still pumping in fastest laps

[Waffdon]

Based off of the hard tyre runs, Norris probably wins that at a canter if he’s not forced off the track and put miles behind the Ferraris

[Adramelch]

All said and done though, you'd argue Verstappen ends up 3rd without the penalties, so the gap would have been the same.

[niko_cee]

I dunno, that car looked shite on the hards after about 10 laps.

[niko_cee]

Norris is too much media training. Bleurgh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:cool:

What a fucking don.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Schumacher was given a 2-race ban in 1994 for a lot less than what Max has been up to.

5 seconds for jumping the start, give me strength. Should be a stop-go.

[Pepe]

Current rules and enforcement of said rules in F1 is comically bad. I am sure any local indoor karting facility has better rules.

[Jimmy Floyd]

The mantra seems to be punish every little transgression, but give ridiculously light punishments for everything. Just encourages them all to act like whiny little boys.

Verstappen is dirty as hell and knows what he's doing. Senna was dirty but sparingly. Schumacher (M) was similar to Max. The thing these three share is a complete and unshakeable belief in their own untouchability. I think Senna's was a religious belief, with the others it's just incredible levels of arrogance. You go through all the other greats from Fangio to Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Prost and even to Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton and all of these had notable occasions when they stepped back and stepped off and compromised for the safety of others and general sense of the sport. With the above three there was/is no compromise. It's something that will catch up with Max at some point. It caught up with the others.

[Shindig]

Yeah, jump starts typically get a drive through, don't they?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I know that stop-go and drive through are still on the hypothetical sanctions list but I have no idea when the last one was actually given. Years ago, probably. Everything is 5 seconds apparently. Max will have known this and deliberately jumped the start because it's worth it not to end up in 4th behind faster cars where the field spread alone will do you 5 seconds in a few laps anyway.

Jump starts used to be stop-go in the good old days.

[Gray Fox]

The simple equation for Max right now is easy.

I will win, or we will not finish. Your choice.

Late 90's/early 00's Schumacher is indeed a good comparison. Unlike Senna where it all felt very based on emotion, with those two it feels very calculated after looking at how the rule book works.

Now if the two drivers were swapped in position, it would likely all be different.

[Shindig]

I don't even think Verstappen has to be this fighty. He's still got the points advantage and Ferrari will eat into Norris more than him.

[Ben]

47 point swing in 4 races is way too much unfortunately. The spiciness came too late. Or rather it came at the right time but Norris didn't capitalise enough leading up to this. The deficit was 8 points per race not long back, now it's 12.

Lawson though. :cool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Perez was an absolute cunt diving into whatever corner it was when there was clearly no space, so deserved every middle finger in the book. Spanish-speaking F1 twitter taking it with all their usual cool-headed grace I see.

[Ben]

It'll be tremendous when Lawson takes his seat too.

[Shindig]

47 point swing in 4 races is way too much unfortunately. The spiciness came too late. Or rather it came at the right time but Norris didn't capitalise enough leading up to this. The deficit was 8 points per race not long back, now it's 12.

Annoyingly Verstappen's 2 penalty points expire in Vegas. A race ban looks out of the question.

[SincereTheRebel]

Watching the footage onboard Max is madness. His intent is too hang you out to dry, every time. He nearly crashed into the back of Sainz twice trying to defend from Lando.

https://x.com/Magic14Nano/status/1850657248592134523?t=HH_5R_MCWp5ycAz-Xuqhcw&s=19

[Ben]

It used to be a reward of the bravest to go around the outside. I think we're in danger of flipping the overtaking laws upside down, where drivers will just try to get their nose ahead at the apex, then claim that they have to be given room on the exit.
– Christian Horner

:D

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you can get ahead at the apex on the outside and then make the corner within track limits, then you absolutely should be given room on the exit. It would be absolute insanity if it were otherwise.

[Pepe]

Even if you are only side by side, you should be given room. This is only a discussion because of stupid rules and modern track design.

[Pepe]

My big brain solution after about a minute of thought:

Cars should be remotely capped at 20% throttle every time they are outside of the track limits.

[Clunge]

Or just go back to tracks that bite. Artificially dampened astro beyond all curbs, quickly followed by gravel and then a lava pit.

[Ben]

I'm a big fan of gravel/grass immediately outside the kerbs but it does nothing for those who just leave their steering wheel open and gently direct their opponent into said trap if they dare try an overtake. A 10 second penalty sounds pretty great if my rival is beached.

The FIA need to get their shit together pronto with the penalty system. Bring back stop and go penalties.

[Ben]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/sVBqrfajiLkP3GSi7

FFS :D

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jMIULxyT4w

I hope they got a proper bastard to play Piquet.

[Jimmy Floyd]

There's already a film called Senna. At least call it Ayrton.

One of the more interesting things about him (I find the driver a lot more compelling than the man) was that his family shut his girlfriend/fiancee out of the funeral in favour of someone they had deemed more suitable. Catholic weirdos r us.

[Shindig]

I often wonder how he'd be perceived if he didn't die at Imola. He gets mythologised so much that it's exhausting. Jim Clark is revered but not in the same bizarre way.

[Pepe]

Didn't he travel around with some sort of witch?

[John Arne]

That new netflix thing looks pretty trash. The car scenes look like some late 90's CGI.

[Waffdon]

5 grid place penalty for Verstappen this weekend for taking a new ICE.

Not sure it will make a difference at a wet Interlagos. Top 6 at best again.

[Ben]

I’ve seen he might need more components and it’s a back of the grid job if so.

Last chance for Norris. He’s got to win and hope Verstappen can’t crack the top 6. Unlikely.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Can't wait for him to park it on the left going down the main straight every time and then hold position until pushing the person off at the exit of Subida do Lago. Hopefully someone Schumachers him into the pit wall.

Isn't there a sprint at this one? Lando needs to max that out as well.

[Ben]

Magnussen has the shits so Bearman is in for the weekend.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Mercedes will both retire I think unless something changes dramatically, they seem to be rattling their drivers to pieces. Was the same in Austin as I recall.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Say it every year but god I fucking love this track. Best on the calendar bar fucking none.

[Pepe]

If the F1 calendar was just 20 races in Interlagos, I would not complain.

[Jimmy Floyd]

British GP should be at Brands Hatch. Bring back Jerez, go to Laguna Seca, go to Portimao. Diddy little places with massive elevation change. The gold standard. Who gives a fuck about facilities.

[Gray Fox]

I worry this trend of racing based on location of the track and not quality of the track will see the end of Interlagos at some point. Until then I'll enjoy it.

[Pepe]

I would take all of those. If we can do Watkins Glen or Road Atlanta instead of Laguna Seca, even better.

[Pepe]

I worry this trend of racing based on location of the track and not quality of the track will see the end of Interlagos at some point. Until then I'll enjoy it.

It's in big-ass Sao Paulo, so I hope its safe. Don't scare us like that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They've tried hard to get rid of Interlagos because of all the traffic and robberies, but Rio could never get its shit together so here we still are.

God knows how Hungary have managed to stay on the calendar for 40 years, but props to them as well. I love anywhere with a non-glossy finish. Road Atlanta would be a good one actually. Qatar and Abu Dhabi coming up :sick:

[Pepe]

Thinking of it, the three F1 races in the US are an absolute disgrace.

[Gray Fox]

It's in big-ass Sao Paulo, so I hope its safe. Don't scare us like that.

It's not the glitz and glam that Liberty covets though. Miami, Madrid, Qatar, Vegas, Abu Dhabi and you could probably rope Monaco in here if it didnt have the prestige. All quite bad tracks for racing these cars, but a lot of money changed hands so we move.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Thinking of it, the three F1 races in the US are an absolute disgrace.

I think Las Vegas might be the least objectionable of the three, which says a lot.

O'Norris looking racey here. If he gets a few points off Max in the sprint it could liven things up a bit.

[Gray Fox]

Perez the gift that keeps on giving.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Surely he's been spiked there in some way.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Oh, it was him trying to block Lawson. lol.

[Gray Fox]

Fully donned by a child, in single figures for starts, in a comparative tractor.

[Adramelch]

Not sure why they didn't tell Bearman to instantly abort the lap and recharge some battery for a new one.

[Ben]

Checo has a lot of bloopers this year but that one is right up there.

[niko_cee]

God knows how Hungary have managed to stay on the calendar for 40 years

Presumably through biblical amounts of corruption, which also sees Interlagos safe as houses, the shiny new money's good and all, but nothing trumps the envelope [or coal sack] slipped under the table.

[Waffdon]

3/1 for Piastri in the sprint is quite tasty. I don’t think team orders will come into play at all over the sake of a point

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm fairly sure if they're 1-2 with a lap to go and clear of third then they'll swap. Key is for Lando to get away well.

[Shindig]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/273e/live/c7ed0650-9914-11ef-8538-e1655f5a8342.jpg

[Gray Fox]

Strange to hear Hamilton saying he's not really bothered about where he qualified. I guess he had to check out at some point.

I hope Ferrari give him a good car for the new year though. They've somehow got my two favourite drivers into the team I like the least so it should be something to behold.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

"You'll need Oscar later"

Someone should have told Piastri, lol. Lad doesn't give a shit.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Max absolutely divebombed the start, was quite lucky to get away with it.

[Shindig]

They've fucked this again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Lando should try driving faster.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've fucked this again.

No need to swap yet.

[Ben]

No need to swap yet.

Disagree. If they were more bothered about Norris winning than the 1-2, then Piastri lets him by on lap 1, turn 4 and he scampers off while Piastri plays roadblock.

But it looks like Piastri has way more pace than Norris anyway so he needs to stop crying on the radio and get his foot down. Leclerc and Verstappen wouldn't be this close if Piastri was the sole reason for Norris' pace.

[Jimmy Floyd]

They're managing the DRS, if they let Lando through early they'd lose constructors' points without DRS to those behind.

Lando had a couple of very poor sector 2s which exposed him a couple of times but got away with it.

[Ben]

Yeah exactly. I think McLaren realise Norris winning the championship is such a long shot that they're entirely focused on the 1-2.

[Shindig]

They've managed nowt. :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Ferrari suddenly becoming a Fiat Punto has livened the weekend up a bit.

Piastri is simply the faster driver here, I wouldn't even be interested in switching them if I were Zak Brown.

[John Arne]

Shocked they haven't swapped. Last lap switch won't be possible when Verstappen goes past Norriss shortly. McLaren screwed him again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Think you're all overestimating how important the drivers' title is to them.

[Ben]

Finally some good strategy pulling off the switch before a potential safety car.

[Adramelch]

They dun fucked it up. Why didn't they swap when Verstappen was 2 seconds away?

Edit: Never mind I guess. :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Lawson was dangerous as fuck with Perez into T1, he should get a grid penalty for that. Seems hot-headed for a kiwi.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Max almost had him there.

Jesus.

[Ben]

Conspiracy theorists coming out the woodwork here saying they held off the green flag long enough so Max couldn't dive up the inside there. :D

[Adramelch]

Coulthard suggested that he could have made the pass but the green flags might not have been up yet so he had to back out.

[Ben]

Lawson was dangerous as fuck with Perez into T1, he should get a grid penalty for that. Seems hot-headed for a kiwi.

I like him. Too many fannies in the sport these days and he just steams in and picks a feud with Perez.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It shouldn't have been a VSC in the first place, elf and safety gorn mad.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Was gonna say Max must have been right on the ragged edge of whatever the VSC rules are, pulling alongside Piastri.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

PUNISH HIM.

Mon the stewards.

[SincereTheRebel]

I was hoping max would catch both papaya's slippin at the restart.

[Ben]

PUNISH HIM.

Mon the stewards.

He's under investigation.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

5 second penalty for Max :drool:

Drops to 4th.

[Shindig]

It's being manipulated. :cool:

[Pepe]

Five second penalties are so weak.

[Gray Fox]

The rain at Interlagos however, is not. Qualy delayed.

[Waffdon]

It’s only a bit of rain ffs

[Jimmy Floyd]

Will be interesting to see which of the young pups can handle these conditions and to what extent Hamilton and Alonso cruise to the front as has historically happened.

[Waffdon]

Will be interesting to see which of the young pups can handle these conditions and to what extent Hamilton and Alonso cruise to the front as has historically happened.

It’s rained plenty over the past few years and neither have done anything

[niko_cee]

Is the McLaren still mega in the wet or was that a last year thing?

[Gray Fox]

Red Bull now getting shirty about other teams maybe sneaking water into their tyres.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Quali isn't happening clearly.

Apparently if they can't do a session the race order is set by championship order.

[niko_cee]

Do they not just qualify in the morning tomorrow?

[Gray Fox]

I think the weather forecast is for this again tomorrow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If they can, they will.

[niko_cee]

I think the weather forecast is for this again tomorrow.

Yeah, but at that point, save for a Spa style farce they're just going to end up binning the entire weekend.

[Jimmy Floyd]

In these circumstances they should make the drivers do a lap of the circuit on foot and that decides the grid.

Or order it by least to most Dutch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Quali isn't happening clearly.

Apparently if they can't do a session the race order is set by championship order.

Or they might use sprint quali...

[Waffdon]

Is the McLaren still mega in the wet or was that a last year thing?

They’re rapid when it’s wet but drying off with the racing line. Or certainly were in a race this year.

[Waffdon]

Pretty sure the weather is meant to be worse tomorrow. Max will be laughing.

(Unless they can do it another day but I presume that’s not a thing)

[niko_cee]

Maybe they should just design cars/tyres that can run in the wet.

Good on Lewis giving Stefano some shit.

[Gray Fox]

The word is Ferrari set their car up for wet running, which explains them cooking their tyres in the sprint.

Could well be on for a Spa washout here though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pretty sure the weather is meant to be worse tomorrow. Max will be laughing.

(Unless they can do it another day but I presume that’s not a thing)

Raining all week.

[Ben]

Pack of fannies. What’s the point in wet tyres if the rules mandate they have to build cruise liner size cars so it’s unsafe anytime we get a good shower?

[Jimmy Floyd]

There isn't. The entire rules are in hoc to the stupid bogus engine tech.

BTCC going to biofuel from next year.

[niko_cee]

Too dangerous to sensibly contemplate was the strap line for F1 for the best part of 50 years.

[Waffdon]

7.30am local time start tomorrow for quali. Poor drivers

[Shindig]

That probably means the mechanics get 2 hours sleep.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Too dangerous to sensibly contemplate was the strap line for F1 for the best part of 50 years.

'Sensible' is things like not eating food after the best before date and making sure your pipes don't freeze in winter, not formula one racing.

[niko_cee]

It's still raining.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Hulk free money.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is quality stuff. Yellow flags, red flags, cars not even visible to the cameras, Yuki on provisional pole if it rains much harder.

[John Arne]

Both Mercs in big trouble here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

George really could have fucked up Albon there.

[SincereTheRebel]

The visible drains are the same ones i find outside my house.

[SincereTheRebel]

Also nore gravel traps and stuff please. All this tarmac run off areas gives drivers get out of jail, free cards.

[niko_cee]

Can see Norris getting fucked here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought he was fucked.

[SincereTheRebel]

Can see Norris getting fucked here.

By the skin of his teeth

[SincereTheRebel]

That hamilton car looked awful onboard. It wouldn't turn in the slow speed corners.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hamilton was all over the show in sector 2, think he's completely given up.

[Waffdon]

By the skin of his teeth

What was he doing? I literally only seen him complete 1 lap at the end.

Williams and Toro Rosso looking rapid in the wet

[Shindig]

This looks like a proper lottery and I can't see the race going further than half points.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That doesn't look good for Sainz.

He could be out of the race.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not sure Ferrari can rebuild that rear end before the race can they? Bring back the t-car.

[Waffdon]

Norris is usually good in the wet but he’s looking very mid here. Sainz being out should help him through to Q3 at least

[Waffdon]

Actually he might be as good as gone here if it’s about to rain again. Useless

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lance Stroll is a fucking hero.

[John Arne]

What a legend, Lance Stroll.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Some blood vessels bursting from Utrecht to Middelburg right now. Took forever to drop the red flag.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Championship blown WIDE open.

[Waffdon]

God speed Lance Stroll

[Dquincy]

Verstappen is going to be fuming. :D

[Jimmy Floyd]

Jos joins the long tradition of drivers' fathers visibly seething in the Interlagos paddock.

[Waffdon]

Sainz, Hamilton and Verstappen all trying to come through the field in the rain could be fun

[Pepe]

Stroll :cool:

[John Arne]

Norris to fluff his lines now and qualify 10th.

[Waffdon]

Norris to fluff his lines now and qualify 10th.

That’s not possible because stroll is in t10 lol

Bookies going down Jimmy’s train of thought with Alonso 3rd fav

[Jimmy Floyd]

Opportunity for a virtuoso performance from Verstappen which could be a great watch. Also could be good seeing some of the 'others' near the front.

Perez right to seethe imo, Red Bull fucked it.

[Shindig]

Sainz, Hamilton and Verstappen all trying to come through the field in the rain could be fun

Especially the latter who really has the bravery to torpedo his way up T1.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Max's tears :drool:

[SincereTheRebel]

Tsunoda pole

[Jimmy Floyd]

Did anyone actually get ahead of Verstappen between Stroll hitting the wall and the red flag coming down? I can't remember.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Did anyone actually get ahead of Verstappen between Stroll hitting the wall and the red flag coming down? I can't remember.

Nope and his lap was yellow flagged so he wasn't going to improve.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Is anyone going to actually start the race? Going to be like Indy '05 at this rate.

[Giggles]

This is starting to look written in the stars for Norris. Weather couldn't have been any more good to him today.

[Waffdon]

Full on rain now would be terrific

[Pepe]

In these conditions they should let them do one hot lap each and call it a day.

[Shindig]

The race won't get a standing start. One rule I'd change is to wind the clock back to when the red-flagged accident happened, rather than the drop of the flag.

[thommo]

Max moving up the grid if all these cars can't make it in time.

This has been phenomenally chaotic.

[SincereTheRebel]

About time these drivers got put to work.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This is complete chaos and I think you could easily get to the podium from 14th on the grid if you drove well throughout and a couple of things went in your favour.

Feels a lot like 2003 when Fisichella ended up being given the win about a week later.

[Waffdon]

Sochi heartbreak all over again incoming later today in the race I reckon

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bloody hell, that looks like a plane crash.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh shit.

Albon is fucked for the race.

[Pepe]

These drivers are all shit.

[SincereTheRebel]

Great show.

[Waffdon]

Verstappen is going to start near enough in the top 10 at this rate :D

[Pepe]

He touched the white line, the idiot.

[Giggles]

That will take some rebuilding.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Do you move up grid slots with DNSs or do you leave the slots empty?

[Shindig]

I don't know. I think they leave them empty but that might be for those starting in the pit lane/borked during the formation lap.

[SincereTheRebel]

Verstappen is going to start near enough in the top 10 at this rate :D

Ia that what will happen if guys dont make the race start? You just move up the grid or will there be empty spots on the grid?

[Waffdon]

Could they just give Albon the Argies car if he stays front row or high up?

[Giggles]

Could they just give Albon the Argies car if he stays front row or high up?

I'd say they will, didn't that happen already this year I think when they gave him the American lads car.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yuki, Ocon and Lawson. Wow.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Cracking efforts from Tsunoda and Lawson.

[SincereTheRebel]

Tsunoda pole

Third for the lad.

[Waffdon]

Lando :cool:

Piastri and Leclerc being low down is perfect for fighting off the potential Verstappen charge

[Pepe]

Ia that what will happen if guys dont make the race start? You just move up the grid or will there be empty spots on the grid?

Even if there are empty spots, under rainy conditions where people can see fuck all, you would close that gap almost immediately.

[Shindig]

Those gaps will mean nothing when it starts under a safety car.

[Waffdon]

Hope it’s a rolling start otherwise Russell will eat Norris alive at the start

[Jimmy Floyd]

Race is 3.30 UK, godspeed Aston Martin and Williams mechanics, although the mad fucks probably live for this sort of thing.

[Shindig]

Aston and Williams will probably prioritise repairs for the best car. Y'know, Albon and Stroll.

[Waffdon]

Tsunoda directly behind Norris?

You already know Horner has been in his ear goading him on

[Shindig]

He'll probably t-bone Lawson in the attempt.

[Ben]

They need to do 20 rounds in Interlagos with Sunday morning qualifying for the good of the sport.

[Waffdon]

It just never fails. It’s so good. Even with cruise ship size cars flying round

[Waffdon]

Did anyone actually get ahead of Verstappen between Stroll hitting the wall and the red flag coming down? I can't remember.

Having watched the breakdown, Verstappen was in 10th when the yellow flag occurred. Two seconds later Leclerc knocked him down to 11th.

It’s impossible to red flag within 2 seconds so I’m not really sure what the crying is all about. Their point about should have red flagged immediately is also invalid because they would not even have time to put a full lap in with 75 seconds to go.

[Shindig]

Hey, I was wrong about Williams. Albon's out. Colapinto's fixed.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Think about 35% of the crowd came to see Colapinto, give the people what they want.

First time I've seen this Ollie Oakes, he has massive Horner energy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Having watched the breakdown, Verstappen was in 10th when the yellow flag occurred. Two seconds later Leclerc knocked him down to 11th.

It’s impossible to red flag within 2 seconds so I’m not really sure what the crying is all about. Their point about should have red flagged immediately is also invalid because they would not even have time to put a full lap in with 75 seconds to go.

He's just a whiny little bitch.

[niko_cee]

Any scope for starting on slicks or doing one of those formation lap pit stops here?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think 19 of the 20 drivers are whiny little bitches to be honest, the exception being Fernando Alonso who is instead a whiny old queen.

[niko_cee]

What are these jokers up to here then?

Stroll. :face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lance Stroll :lol:

[Giggles]

What are they playing at at the back?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Jeez, been a long time since anyone has binned it on the formation lap.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He gets it started again and puts it into the fucking gravel :lol:

Proper window licker.

[Gray Fox]

Lance fucking Strulovitch. Box office.

[Waffdon]

My lord

[Jimmy Floyd]

Lads, you're supposed to actually drive the cars.

[Giggles]

Stroll giving us a stupid safety car start. Twat.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Max trying to get the entire field a penalty is a good effort even for him.

[Shindig]

Well, this is already better than Spa 2021.

[Waffdon]

What a shambles

[Gray Fox]

Penalties for the entire grid will be interesting.

[niko_cee]

Is Michael Masi back in charge of race control?

[SincereTheRebel]

Sounds like Lando fucked up the start and the rest of the grid followed. Mclaren to blame. It aint nOrris job to know the rules

[Jimmy Floyd]

Surely if Norris went early then literally every other driver that followed him went early as well?

[Waffdon]

Surely if Norris gets noted everyone else that followed him will have to be noted also lol

[Ben]

Norris DQ this.

[Gray Fox]

Surely if Norris went early then literally every other driver that followed him went early as well?

Yeah. I think they'll reprimand or something or else the entire grid save for about 4 cars will get penalties.

[Waffdon]

Stop and go penalty inbound

[Giggles]

You can't just penalise one guy when they all moved. None of them has a green light.

[thommo]

Jeez, been a long time since anyone has binned it on the formation lap.

Leclerc did it last year to be fair. At Interlagos as well, in dry conditions.

[Shindig]

Verstappen also followed past the light so ....

[niko_cee]

Just start the fucking race and stop going on about all this lawyer shite.

[Gray Fox]

Noses into regulation books and race results not ratified until next week. This is proper F1.

[Gray Fox]

Imagine you and all of your colleagues busting a gut to fix the mess that the boss' spaz of a Son has made. Then you just get the job done in time and he waltzes in and breaks it again immediately.

[SincereTheRebel]

Imagine you and all of your colleagues busting a gut to fix the mess that the boss' spaz of a Son has made. Then you just get the job done in time and he waltzes in and breaks it again immediately.

Legend

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Punish all the false starters (including Max) or none is my opinion.

[Ben]

Reprimand for Norris, 10 seconds for Verstappen for being a grass.

But really they all ended up going past the line so you can’t penalise all but 6 just because they set off later. And penalising just Norris is wrong, nobody forced the other 19 to go along with it.

I think the FIA will accept they fucked it (again) and move on.

[niko_cee]

This will be red flagged within about 5 minutes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lando :face:

[niko_cee]

Is Norris the worst starter in F1 history?

[Adramelch]

Worst among the frontrunners at the very least.

[Ben]

Verstappen’s ability to scythe through the field is incredible.