F1 2024 - 24 Rounds of Street Circuit Thrillers

[Ben]

Although people need to pack in moving aside for him. Gasly typical French mentality there.

[Waffdon]

Verstappen is absolutely fearless isn’t he. Just isn’t scared at all about dive bombing

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seems the stewards are going to punish EVERYONE.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Piastri needs to hold Max up for as long as possible.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't understand how he has so much more grip than everyone else. It's like watching prototpyes pass GT3s at Le Mans.

[Ben]

I was going to throw some money on Verstappen to win but he’s already in to 5/2 lol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell Piastri.

[Waffdon]

These drivers can’t be serious. The exact 3 move again. My god

[Gray Fox]

Championship winning drive in the making here from Max.

[John Arne]

Piastri waving through Max there. Genuinely no defensive driving at all.

[thommo]

Max is just obscene. Really bringing it back to 2016 Interlagos where he did the same.

Piastri, what the fuck are you doing? Just left the door wide open...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

More door wide open.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, let's get rid of sister teams.

[Waffdon]

That is utterly pathetic

[Jimmy Floyd]

They've all left the door open because they have zero confidence on the brakes into turn one and he has 100% confidence.

[Adramelch]

Yeah it's easy to blame the others but he's posting fastest laps the whole time from the middle of the field. He's just on a different level at the moment.

[thommo]

Piastri has got to do better though. As a teammate of the other contender, park it on the inside and keep him at bay for a while at least.

I expected Lawson to do as much, Helmut will have been on the blower immediately.

[Jimmy Floyd]

When you consider that someone's inevitably going to go into the barriers here, I'd say Verstappen is handy favourite to win.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bearman v Max battle please.

He wouldn't give Max the inside.

[niko_cee]

Norris is paying a heavy price for his start. Would be well clear without it.

[John Arne]

Did the co-commentator really just say that DRS should be enabled :D

[Waffdon]

Norris is paying a heavy price for his start. Would be well clear without it.

Absolutely. No pace in the straights to take over but clear in the sector 1 and 2

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

LeClerc not letting Max past.

TOP lad.

[niko_cee]

Defending the inside line into turn 1, who would have thought that would be a good idea?

[Ben]

Oh boy it’s going to horse it down again. :drool:

[SincereTheRebel]

Considering there are only two corners to overtake. Turn one and turn four. Brazil always brings good racing. Why?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The only question is who is going to have the safety car / red flag summoning crash. Albon and Stroll out narrows the field. Maybe Russell will.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The only question is who is going to have the safety car / red flag summoning crash. Albon and Stroll out narrows the field. Maybe Russell will.

Tory Boy pushing hard and going into the wall is surely odds on favourite for it.

[niko_cee]

Top Ferrari strategy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Surely a VSC or SC?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Front five nobbled again by the race director. I imagine he's sitting there with a steak and chips and a large glass of red.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lando and George fucked by the short VSC.

[Adramelch]

Surely that's a red flag soon and Norris and Russell gigafucked.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Norris only has himself to blame bleating about tyres for the last ten laps.

'Is it raining?' burps the race director.

[niko_cee]

McLaren have fucked that.

[Jimmy Floyd]

How did Ocon gain seven seconds on Verstappen?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How did Ocon gain seven seconds on Verstappen?

He went 5s quicker than him on the last lap, lol.

[Waffdon]

Ocon :D

Some effort

[Waffdon]

Surely Verstappen will have to pit at some point

[Gray Fox]

Give me this race 20 times over please.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking Fandango Cappuccino.

[niko_cee]

And that's the ball game.

[Foe]

That fia decision completely fucks anyone going into wet tires.

[Gray Fox]

Be very surprised if the coward race control let this go again.

[Waffdon]

For fuck sake. Max pisses this now

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's stopped raining, get the race back under way when the debris is cleared.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I feel like I've spent the entire day watching Williams and Aston Martins knob it in the wall.

Long way to go here.

[niko_cee]

The only question is who is going to have the safety car / red flag summoning crash. Albon and Stroll out narrows the field. Maybe Russell will.

There's your answer.

[Gray Fox]

Williams mechanics due for some bonus.

[thommo]

Surely Max wins this now (and basically seals the WDC). Fair play because he's driven incredibly, but that's unfortunate for the pitters.

[niko_cee]

Not sure Norris really has the necessary toughness to be a champion driver.

[thommo]

Not this year, but it's the first time he's had a car to challenge right at the top. If the car performance stays where it is, it'll stand him in good stead going into next season.

[Waffdon]

The only hope is ocon decides to wipe out Verstappen again at T1

[Gray Fox]

He doesn't, but this close call will define him.

Stewards room is going to need a big order in and a lot of coffee tonight.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Not sure Norris really has the necessary toughness to be a champion driver.

All that whining about wanting to pit for new tyres was rubbish. Are these guys all just completely impulsive goits? If not then I'm afraid you have to be more determined than to be thinking about that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

RIP Hulk.

[Ben]

Chandhok:D

[Ben]

By the way, this has been some spectacular rain so fuck knows what is on the way later on that made them need to bring the start an hour earlier.

[niko_cee]

All that whining about wanting to pit for new tyres was rubbish. Are these guys all just completely impulsive goits? If not then I'm afraid you have to be more determined than to be thinking about that.

It was the lameness of his radio message about everyone else being able to change their tyres now.

Maybe they wouldn't have been close enough either way, but McLaren feel like they have made a number of extremely poor strategy decisions this year.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Are they going to black flag Mercedes? Let's get a few more cars off the track.

[Shindig]

Norris, you tit.

[niko_cee]

This is hilarious. Season needs a Max DNF, but it isn't happening.

[niko_cee]

This was obviously the big brain 4d chess thinking behind Alpeeeeen having cars that behave more like boats all season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:face:

[Gray Fox]

Lando is just not that guy.

[Jimmy Floyd]

How many overtakes has Verstappen done from 6th to 1st, just that one?

[niko_cee]

Does Piastri still have a 10s penalty or did that get served somewhere?

[Adramelch]

Being at an 18-point deficit while starting 16 places ahead is some top effort.

[niko_cee]

Lando is just not that guy.

Certainly not in these conditions.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Does Piastri still have a 10s penalty or did that get served somewhere?

I can't believe Bearman is apparently a couple of seconds out of the points despite a 10 second penalty and about four trips to the grass.

[Waffdon]

Certainly not in these conditions.
Not sure about that. He’s been absolutely fine aside from the starts. Which is always his issue. The car clearly has too much downforce hence why they can’t takeover on the straight

The same reasons he’s not winning today is the reasons he’s not won multiple more times this season. McLaren making wrong strategy calls (he’d be first if they don’t pit, or second if Russell doesn’t either but he took him over anyway) and then obviously his terrible starts from the grid. I’m not sure he could have done much on the rolling start

[Adramelch]

Fine aside from the starts is not good enough though. He's singlehandedly dropped dozens of points due to his starts.

[niko_cee]

He's also made several driving errors today and clearly has much less confidence in these conditions that others.

Could turn it all around though by having better tyres I guess.

The ongoing trolling of Perez by Lawson is box office, and a well pointed out difference between his defending against one Red Bull compared to the other on commentary.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Norris has made two cornering mistakes which would have him 4th now as opposed to 6th, to say nothing of the shit start or the decision to pit.

[Pepe]

I chose a good day to get the race start time wrong.

[thommo]

He's obviously not on the same level as Max but he's still had a pretty incredible season. There is obviously room for improvement (especially in the starts) but ultimately it was always a long shot to try and get a WDC title from this considering the opening 10 races, and keeping pace throughout despite some misfortune along the way is something to build on next year.

[Jimmy Floyd]

To balance my opinions, although Verstappen was peerless up to 6th, affter that it's been absolutely handed to him by various combinations of luck and the incompetence of others. It's not an all time level drive at all, as his lickspittles will claim it is after the race, not like some of the Schumacher carves through the field to win.

[Adramelch]

Max himself has had better races I'd argue, but at the same time he's the only driver on track that hasn't had a single mistake it feels like.

[Luke Emia]

No it’s not an all timer in terms of what he’s done. But, he has raced very well today. Kept himself out of trouble and most importantly when the pressure has been on and it could have gone horribly wrong for him today he’s not made any mistakes at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That's exactly what he's done, made no mistakes when others have made plenty.

[Shindig]

He's put himself in the right positions to capitalise. Nobody else seemed that brave on track.

[Giggles]

That was a pure case of the cream rising to the top there today. Quality drive.

[Waffdon]

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Oh my days, I didn’t realise that’s what happened:D

[Jimmy Floyd]

166 grands prix for that ridiculous waste of space. His race engineer has the voice of a man who needs a long liquid holiday.

[Ben]

That’s tremendous.

[SincereTheRebel]

Alonso was crying in his post race. His spine took a beating.

[Pepe]

Senna's McLaren was an absolute beauty.

[SincereTheRebel]

Bottas booted from sauber for next season.

[Gray Fox]

GPDA have released a statement somewhat taking aim at Bin Sulayem.

[John Arne]

I think they are largely correct, in that they don't need to be treated like kids, that said... I don't get the jewellery thing - seems like Hamilton just being stubborn now - surely it's common sense that you don't wear jewellery whilst racing... particular a piece an ear/nose ring that could rip half your face off if you have a crash.

[Waffdon]

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DTS must have paid red bull off to take the drivers championship into the 2nd last week

[Jimmy Floyd]

Have they never heard of DHL Express?

[Shindig]

You mean the official logistics partners of the Formula One World Championship (tm)?

[Ben]

The time schedule this weekend is fucking weird. Getting up at 6am for a round that isn’t in Japan or Australia is just wrong.

[Waffdon]

You mean you’re not excited about Saturday night in vegas round the worst track on the calendar?

[niko_cee]

I like the story about the US border people taking Tsunoda to one side and being very doubtful about his story. Donald's strengthening the border already.

[Ben]

"Random" check strikes again.

[Waffdon]

Not a bad few weeks for Gasly.

An odd looking top 3. Such a tragic track

[John Arne]

Faes terrible.

[John Arne]

Wrong Fred.

[Pepe]

The race is at 1 am lol. Great scheduling, lads.

[niko_cee]

It's confusing who it is even catering for. Mid-morning in the sand countries? I get it needs to have shiny lights on, so be in the dark, but surely at this time of year it gets darker there a bit earlier than 10pm or whenever they set the thing off local time.

[John Arne]

The ONE part of the F1 website that was good... was the scheduling banner thing, that instantly told you start times in your country... and they went and changed it. Useless fuckers (they've added one extre click :D ).

[John Arne]

It's confusing who it is even catering for. Mid-morning in the sand countries? I get it needs to have shiny lights on, so be in the dark, but surely at this time of year it gets darker there a bit earlier than 10pm or whenever they set the thing off local time.

Yeah, it's great for anyone east of India (hello me), but why so late for the US? Something to do with permits in Vegas?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Trying to find F1 start times has always been a click laden affair. They want to hide that nugget away so badly.

Often very clicky to find the starting grid, too, if you've missed qualifying.

[John Arne]

EDIT: Race is 10pm local time.

[Waffdon]

Trying to find F1 start times has always been a click laden affair. They want to hide that nugget away so badly.

Often very clicky to find the starting grid, too, if you've missed qualifying.

The f1 website has it in track time and your local time. If not just go on Sky F1s Twitter, they always have a pinned image showing every session and the times

[Shindig]

Watching the Brawn documentary that Keanu Reeves did a while back. Two episodes in and Bernie's in top form. :cool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bernie is a full-on legend. Not appreciated in his lifetime due to being a completely villainous cunt, but in 20 years we'll look back on him as a hilarious hero.

[Clunge]

Been watching it too – seriously good viewing. Love those bits where Keanu just suddenly shouts at some nerdy F1 boss, 'WHAT THE FUCK?'. Di Montezemolo comes across as such a pantomime prick, Horner too. I also love how much they characterise Ross Brawn as a teddy in public and a vicious fuck behind the scenes. Some good watching.

Thinking back, that period 2007-2010 was superb. The 2007 championship with Spygate and Alonso vs Hamilton, 2008 with the insane championship fight, 2009 the Brawn story and then 2010 the mega multi-direction title fight (and that superb looking yellow and black Renault with Kubica driving). Lovely stuff.

[Shindig]

The thing it really hammers home is how skint the operation was. Outside of Virgin, I don't remember the outfit getting any proper sponsors. Hearing how they had to ditch half the workforce after Australia and ask the refuelling bloke to come in as a weekend gig is wild.

[Gray Fox]

2010 Abu Dhabi was actually great. If memory serves there were a theoretical possible 5(though realistically 3) WDC winners going into it.

It was Alonsos' to lose and to be his crowning glory and the start of some Ferrari glory years. Yet imagine Ferrari making a pit stop blunder and sticking him behind a non-fussed Russian for the whole race.

Vettel had at no point in the season lead the standings in the WDC until he crossed the finish line. First driver to have done it since Hunt in the 70's.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Even though I was lolling at Alonso at the time, it's a pity it worked out that way. He deserves another championship and Vettel deserves to have won fewer.

[Gray Fox]

I do wonder what F1 would look like had he got by Petrov immediately. In my head that incident was the most high profile example in the push to create something like DRS down the line.
Does Alonso then get first dibs on the upcoming vacant Mercedes seat in 2013? I reckon he would also have dealt with Rosberg in similar fashion to Hamilton and could himself be sat on 7 or even 8 titles. He rightfully gets his dues, but I bet it will irk him if two is all he ever manages.

I'd rule him out, but he's got one last hurrah with a change in regulations and an Adrian Newey behind him to build a car, anything could happen.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ferrari 4 constructors from here.

[Giggles]

Is that a new colour on the RB's? Reminds you of the old Benetton.

[SincereTheRebel]

Yeah it looks like the O.G Kimi sauber.



:drool:

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fom-website/manual/Misc/First%20tests/Raikkonen.jpg

[John Arne]

Sharles going backwards.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Way better paint job than before, keep it please.

Never seen a modern tyre go off as dramatically as Leclerc's did there.

[Jimmy Floyd]

First time I've actually got up for this race, don't mind the circuit at all tbh. Much better than Jeddah.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sainz should be black flagged for that, hideously dangerous.

[SincereTheRebel]

Ferrari really fucked up Sainz there.

[Giggles]

Wasn't watching it all, how has Hamilton ended up 2nd?

[SincereTheRebel]

i missed it but is Sainz being looked at, at the end of the race for that pit lane cut?

[SincereTheRebel]

Surprised Ferrari didnt swap leclerc and sainz given leclerc is close for 2nd place. I guess the bonuses for leclerc are personal and probably hurt ferrari if he gets 2nd.

[Waffdon]

Wasn't watching it all, how has Hamilton ended up 2nd?

Their car was an absolute rocket ship.

Such an odd team this year

[Gray Fox]

Merc seems very temperature dependant.

Their other wins this season have been at a cold and damp Silverstone and Spa. Vegas also much cooler of a night.
There was a win at Austria, but Russell was over a pit stop behind when the two leaders took each other out.

Take the car anywhere hot and it looks useless.

[Shindig]

Ferrari really fucked up Sainz there.

Aye. My guess is Ferrari called them both in then realised he'd lose time double stacking them. As for the cut, I always (probably incorrectly) assumed the white line they looked at was the one on the exit.

EDIT: The rule is only punishable if you cut the line on pit entry. He didn't enter the pits so no problem.

[Ben]

Dangerous as fuck on a bend like that though. It would have been a disaster had there been another car there.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It should have a been a black flag under whatever sweeper rules there are for general dangerous driving. You can't behave as unpredictably as that in a high speed part of the track.

Rules have disappeared miles up their own arse though so actual high speed danger is fine but pushing someone off the track onto tarmac run-off at 40mph is a penalty.

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/cy8nzlwpn83o

Sorry to abandon my cynical persona but this sort of thing awakens the child in me. In summary: :drool:

[Waffdon]

11 teams is such an odd number

[niko_cee]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/c1704n4wd7go

lol at Perez going under the bus as an innocent bystander in all this.


There's a lot of things that Max can do that are phenomenal. Driving at the level he does consistently without a team-mate that can push him in any way certainly makes his life harder.

:D

[SincereTheRebel]

I still beleive having a strong team is the biggest test, which is why hamilton for me stands alone against the rest compared to the rest since 1998

[Magic]

The Brawn GP story on BBC is wild. I don't really remember much about that season apart from the cheating thing but TBF I'd only just started to get in to F1.

Brilliant story.

[Waffdon]

Is skys commentary two seconds ahead of the feed for anyone else?

[Giggles]

Is there another one this week? Is the continent change break gone?

[Waffdon]

It’s a triple header to end the season. It’s like the 3rd or 4th triple header of the year. Very dumb. It’s sprint weekend so that was just quali

Russell is just so much better than Hamilton

[Ben]

Perez lmao

[John Arne]

Perez forgetting to go on the green light :face:

[SincereTheRebel]

Shameful

[niko_cee]

Don't think I've ever managed to tune into a sprint race other than on the last lap, having forgotten about it. Every time.

[Waffdon]

Norris is far too much of a team player. Such a nice bloke

[Waffdon]

That was also ridiculously brave to do with Russell less than a second behind

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can't stand that sort of thing. Fastest man should win.

[Waffdon]

Yeah Norris could have won that by 10+ seconds with ease but whatevs

It’s a good thing it rained in Brazil otherwise red bull may have twitchy bums based on the state of their car the past two weeks

[Shindig]

As a racy as Piastri is, he sounds dead on the radio. I'd settle for Vettel yabba-daba-doing over "Yeah. Ok. Thanks."

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think every one of those things is cringe as fuck. Whether it's Vettel advertising his German naffness, Verstappen being an arrogant wanker or Hamilton's preening Still We Rise, it's just awful. Only exception is usually someone's first win or winning after a long wait and there's genuine emotion.

Piastri comes across very well. Seems brighter than your average fish.

Watching the F2 race, some of these people are genuinely awful. Bearman looks a class above, so smooth, probably going to come second.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Sling that, he's just absolutely mugged his French rival into T1. Rule Britannia.

[Ben]

Yeah Norris could have won that by 10+ seconds with ease but whatevs

It’s a good thing it rained in Brazil otherwise red bull may have twitchy bums based on the state of their car the past two weeks

Norris fucks off and McLaren get less points. Russell would have beaten Piastri comfortably, he was uncharacteristically scruffy today.

[Jimmy Floyd]

People hanging back to give DRS to their team mate is bad shit as well. The right thing to do under the current rules, but it ain't racing.

[Waffdon]

Russell still looks rapid around here and their straight line speed could be the factor tomorrow if he qualifies well here. Not going to have Norris handing out drs to his teammate tomorrow

[niko_cee]

What an odd session.

[Waffdon]

No idea where the fuck max got them from. They looked on par with Haas a couple hours ago.

Tasty front 2

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Even when he's locked up the Championship he can't help but cheat...

[Waffdon]

I don’t think Russell was on a push lap and if that was the case it’s Russell just being weird again

[Gray Fox]

That one place grid penalty seems(for obvious reasons) very specific. I reckon anyone else probably gets away with that.

[Waffdon]

Yeah, very odd. Hopefully he gets feisty with Russell for the scenes

[Jimmy Floyd]

They just make the rules up as they go along for TV now. There hasn't been a 'one place grid penalty' since they were racing chariots around the hippodrome.

[niko_cee]

4pm race start?

Really feels like they've done the schedule this year for maximum conflict with the football.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If I could take a wild swing I would say the last few races have been scheduled to avoid conflict with NFL.

[Giggles]

Were there ever 6pm or 9pm (UK time) race starts?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I should be more specific - start times aimed at capturing the US market without eating into any NFL time. Nice 11am east coast for this one.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Norris absolutely chickened out at the start. Protecting the constructors' points.

[Giggles]

Yeah definitely looked like he was told to avoid the DNF at all cost.

[niko_cee]

Didn't see the full details on the incidents, but a penalty for Stroll and nothing for Hulk there in those T1 goings on seems a bit odd.

[Waffdon]

Looking like easy street for Verstappen. Cars looking like they’re struggling in the hot air behind

[Jimmy Floyd]

Hulkenberg was in the turn one chaos which probably saved him, Stroll appeared to just drive into someone on a straight

Some pretty honking driving standards down the field. Lawson is far too hot-headed, Tsunoda dirty as hell.

[niko_cee]

Yeah, but the turn 1 chaos was just him driving into Ocon wasn't it? Thought Stroll's was also coming out of turn 1.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh dear Merc.

[Ben]

I've just flicked over. Are they really covering this debris on the straight with double yellows? As in the only overtaking spot on the track? Good stuff.

[Waffdon]

Double yellowing the straight each time? A bit dumb

[Jimmy Floyd]

Another race director getting the sack.

Thank ben Sulayem.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh dear oh dear.

[Ben]

What a shit show. :D

[Waffdon]

FIA are a disgrace

[Jimmy Floyd]

This race director's had to do a double shift this weekend because they fired the F2 one. You can't make it up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Absolute clusterfuck.

[Ben]

Where's he been for the last 10 minutes? Was he having a shit?

[Waffdon]

They just ruined Sainz race completely :lol:

[Ben]

Was he really thinking he could just double yellow the straight until the end? We might as well finish under the safety car then. There's literally nowhere else you can overtake here.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Was he really thinking he could just double yellow the straight until the end? We might as well finish under the safety car then. There's literally nowhere else you can overtake here.

Probably horrendously indecisive and/or getting pressured by various teams/people.

Bottas could have had an enormous tyre blowout and crash at 200mph if he'd driven over it differently.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Also, is somebody now driving around with only one wing mirror? Do they not have to pit and fix / retire for safety reasons? If not, why are there wing mirrors on the cars?

[Jimmy Floyd]

This race is a farce. Verstappen uncharacteristically made a complete mess of the safety car restart but Norris too cowardly to take advantage.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Max forcing Norris off again.

[Waffdon]

This race is a farce. Verstappen uncharacteristically made a complete mess of the safety car restart but Norris too cowardly to take advantage.

Have a day off mate

[Jimmy Floyd]

10 second stop/go :D

It lives!

He might as well punt Max now and put Piastri higher.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I guess stop and go penalties still exist, wow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't think they want the constructors championship decided today.

[niko_cee]

Feels like the shark has rather been jumped on the stewarding/race admin. It's an absolute mess and has been for years.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Drive through penalty as well. They're pulling out all the hits. Max Mosley is smiling down from Nazi-themed heaven.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hamilton is absolutely SEETHING.

[niko_cee]

Serving penalties and then retiring the car next lap is pretty lol.

Hamilton has completely lost the plot over the last month or so.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I hope his move to Ferrari doesn't end up being Nigel Mansell to McLaren. If so, then a few quick Bearman drives in the Haas could create an interesting scenario.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If Lando hadn't have gotten the stop and go this would have been a tasty ending, he's been blitzing his laps since the penalty.

[Giggles]

I hope his move to Ferrari doesn't end up being Nigel Mansell to McLaren. If so, then a few quick Bearman drives in the Haas could create an interesting scenario.

He's looked like he's just phoning it in because he's going. You'd hope he'll have a new lease of life with the change of scenery, though if the car starts off as a donkey next year he could zone out very quickly again.

[Jimmy Floyd]

He's still quick enough but keeps making errors, so maybe the concentration has gone. Hopefully you're right and it's just what we all do at the end of jobs.

[7om]

Have a day off mate

Is he wrong? The likes of Russell, Norris and Leclerc have proven time and again that they don’t have the killer mentality that Verstappen has.

[Shindig]

Very few throughout history have had that mentality, to be fair.

[Waffdon]

Is he wrong? The likes of Russell, Norris and Leclerc have proven time and again that they don’t have the killer mentality that Verstappen has.

Russell definitely does. I don’t really like the bloke but he quite clearly gets a lot out of every situations he’s in and is just as bad as Verstappen is when taking it to the edge

[Gray Fox]

Ocon punted for the final race. Doohan in.

[Waffdon]

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:lol:

[Giggles]

Russell definitely does. I don’t really like the bloke but he quite clearly gets a lot out of every situations he’s in and is just as bad as Verstappen is when taking it to the edge

As good as, you mean surely.

[Gray Fox]

IIRC, Verstappen is a level above both in terms of mentality and actual skill, on almost the entire current field.

Leclerc is probably the man you want for pure one lap pace, but we've seen many examples of him not having the bottle in races. Alonso and Hamilton the ones I'd put in that bracket, but one should be long retired by now and the other is very motivation dependant these days.

In fact on track, there's only really Hamilton that's been able to hold a candle to him in any kind of equal performing machinery.

Lando currently is not that guy. He's not far off that bracket in terms of skill, but lacks greatly the ruthlessness. This season should do him some good. The penny seems to have dropped that Best Belgian Mates doesn't work once they get in the car.

[Shindig]

K Mag's reaction to to getting by Albon is great. I'll miss him. :D

[Ben]

I prefer this one. :D

https://dubz.co/c/7e73aa

Unless you meant Albon and we're talking about the same thing?

[Shindig]

Yeah, I got the driver wrong.

[niko_cee]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/cy89xevxp1jo


Motorsport's governing body wants to change its rules to limit the ways its leadership can be held to account for bad governance.

:happycry:

[Pepe]

Dictators gonna dictator.

[Jimmy Floyd]

This will be the end of FIA governance in top level motorsport unless he's stopped pretty much immediately.

[niko_cee]

The future Russell Verstappen rivalry is shaping up nicely (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/cn4x21xwp8go), hopefully they have cars to bother each other with next season.


Asked about Russell's claim that he said he would deliberately crash into him, Verstappen said: "That's not true. I didn't say it like that. He's trying to exaggerate it again."

Not even a denial.

:D

[Shindig]

Russell being the head of the Drivers Association makes it even better.

[Gray Fox]

Netflix rushing cameras to Abu Dhabi immediately.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I stand with George.

Knock him out, lad.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Verstappen, like all his countrymen, is a massive autist, and Russell is a lovely twat. Bring on a heated rivalry, haven't had one for ages.

[Pepe]

We just had the riveting tale of Perez vs Lawson.

[7om]

Everyone has bent over for Verstappen over the last few years. The last one to stand up to him was Hamilton in 2021. It’s about time someone gave him a taste of his own medicine. Turns out it’s bitter.

[niko_cee]

Problem is it doesn't seem anyone has the ability, or inclination, to go wheel to wheel with him on the track, cf Norris massively pussying out when he had the run on him around the outside at the last race. Live to fight another day doesn't work with Max/the modern reliability era.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Because they know if they do, their race is over.

Norris learned that.

[Giggles]

:D soppy twats

[Gray Fox]

It's been too long since there's been a good bit of needle in the sport. Bring it on.

I do however fully expect a completely manufactured Instagram post with arms around each other, claiming how its all water under the bridge, before Christmas.

[Waffdon]

Leclerc has a 10 grid place penalty for the race so the FIA going ultra harsh last week has worked out well

[niko_cee]

Aston seem to have gone backwards at an alarming rate, are they just getting all of their eggs ready to put into the Newey basket rather than doing any development on the current car whatsoever?

[Gray Fox]

Aston seem to have gone backwards at an alarming rate, are they just getting all of their eggs ready to put into the Newey basket rather than doing any development on the current car whatsoever?

I dont think it's so much on them. I do think there is a little bit of that at play, as if you know you're getting the boffin in, you want to give him as many resources as possible.

I just think the teams above have got to the point of maximum extraction of this current formula. It's a little track dependant but for most circuits you could say any of the top 3 are in with a chance of pole/win and if it's cold, Mercedes could be there too. They're a comfortable 5th in the WCC which is where I'd expect them to be.

Alonso has been dragging it to between 8th and 12th quite consistently but their problem is the window licking dipshit in the other car hasn't troubled the points in over 10 races now. Again about on par with what I'd expect really.

[Ben]

Alonso has had more Q1 eliminations than Stroll this season.

Qualifying is their problem. The top four teams are well clear, so barring any shenanigans like Brazil, they're competing for 9th and 10th every week but that means there's only 1 or 2 points on offer and given their slow quali pace they're having to come from further back. Given the gulf between them and the top four coupled with the current scoring system, hauling in just shy of 100 points is decent I'd say.

[Waffdon]

Hamilton :lol:

Starting to think Ferrari have brought him in knowing that they need a clear #1 and #2.

[Gray Fox]

That bollard sticking under his car is a pretty good metaphor for his entire season tbh.

[Waffdon]

Bottas :cool:

Leclerc starting from the back of the grid so there goes any drama with the constructors

[Gray Fox]

Hulkenberg :cool:

[Waffdon]

Short run in with an 1-2 and pole always wins here. Surely to god they don’t fuck this up

[Gray Fox]

Even Lando can't bottle it from there.

[niko_cee]

Short run in with an 1-2 and pole always wins here. Surely to god they don’t fuck this up

They'll probably end up going full Ferrari Singapore.

[Waffdon]

lol at Russell somehow escaping a penalty for a much worse offence than Verstappen last weekend (on a hot run as well)

[Clunge]

Loving these last hurrahs – Bottas and Hulkenberg are total dons. I know Hulk's going to be around next year, but the 2025 Saudi/Auber (pick your own bridging name) is bound to be a dog as they work on the 2026 car.

[Pepe]

Lolstappen :D

[Waffdon]

In before Norris gets taken out later :lol:

[Gray Fox]

Bottas a true hero.

[John Arne]

Feed I have refusing to show any replays of any incidents.

[Adramelch]

How has Sainz fucked that restart that much?

John Arne that's just the official broadcast. I'm watching on the F1 channel and nothing's been shown really.

[Pepe]

How did the French figure out how to build a car all of a sudden?

[John Arne]

How has Sainz fucked that restart that much?

John Arne that's just the official broadcast. I'm watching on the F1 channel and nothing's been shown really.

Annoying. Have no idea who was at fault for the Piastri and Verstappen tiff? If anyone.

[Adramelch]

It was on Verstappen for sure. Piastri left him a lot of space.

[John Arne]

There you go. Completely on Verstappen.

How does he always get such a rapid start? Is the RB just that good off the line?

[Pepe]

Piastri :D

[Gray Fox]

Annoyingly this is why more don't cut Max off when he dives down the inside as he does. Piastris race ruined yet Max is likely into some good points still.

[7om]

Verstappen being a stupid twat shocker.

[Pepe]

Annoyingly this is why more don't cut Max off when he dives down the inside as he does. Piastris race ruined yet Max is likely into some good points still.

Yeah but he got a massive 10 seconds penalty, so it is all good.

[Ben]

How did the French figure out how to build a car all of a sudden?

Kind of ironic that there’s nothing French about the team anymore.

[Waffdon]

Verstappen, Piastri and Bottas all getting the same penalty doesn’t seem quite right

[Pepe]

Kind of ironic that there’s nothing French about the team anymore.

Isn't the engine still built in France? They were hiring a few months ago.